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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast Three bozos going absolutely nowhere

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Speaker 2: Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL that was necessary.

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Speaker 2: It was time to take a little air out of

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Speaker 2: the blue in this room. Dan Hands is here, Creig Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: That was just an op ed from Jason Sommore right,

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Speaker 1: totally off book.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely getting high off our own supply season.

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Speaker 2: This is our twenty twenty three season Predictions and Awards show.

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Speaker 2: How fun is that? Where we're going to go through

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Speaker 2: all our picks that you actually you could read about

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Speaker 2: on NFL dot com. Ali Bonpori and the team put

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Speaker 2: together a nice rundown of all the analysts, a list

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Speaker 2: that includes Judy Pettitt, Jeremy Bergman, how about that, Eric Edholme,

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Speaker 2: New Power Rankings Guy, Michael f Florio, not the other

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Speaker 2: Mike Florio, the realer Mike Florida, the one, Leslie Frazier,

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Speaker 2: mj D, Steve Mariucci, Nick Chuk, Brandon Walker, Hard Knocks Guy,

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Speaker 2: and I'll last but not least, Dan Hansis, Greg Rosenthal, Mark.

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Speaker 1: I got this in just before deadline, So imagine if

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Speaker 1: I had not been included in this exercise.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping everyone would get it in last year.

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Speaker 2: Not everyone got it in. I was meaning to look

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Speaker 2: up who didn't get it in last year because it

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Speaker 2: read havoc with this episode a year ago. I don't

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Speaker 2: know who was it.

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Speaker 4: It was probably you.

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Speaker 1: I did get it in personally. I know that I

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Speaker 1: hadn't to ask for an extent.

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Speaker 2: I have to look it up.

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Speaker 3: It probably was me. We don't need to look it up.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you're right, it was probably me. I don't really remember.

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Speaker 2: It was probably me, and yet you tried to put me.

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Speaker 3: Well, now, once I once I thought about it, let's

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Speaker 3: just let's just move on. I mean, yes, it is

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Speaker 3: cool to be making picks alongside. Maurice Jones drew overrating

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Speaker 3: his employer for like the seventh straight year.

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Speaker 4: But I get it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he works for the Rams and it doesn't even

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Speaker 3: work for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: He's just a fan.

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Speaker 3: He always overrates them too, But I think he nailed

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Speaker 3: them last year because they had a nice little season.

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Speaker 2: Mark you and I participated last year in the sex

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Speaker 2: or Okay, I missed it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's called being professional right at your workplace.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, for Greg not to do this year ago.

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Speaker 2: Meant he was blowing off emails from I don't think

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Speaker 2: it was Blair, Gennaro, Police, all those great people.

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Speaker 1: Don't have time for you, people who operate in cubicles

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Speaker 2: And then he tried to brush this off with something

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Speaker 2: we shouldn't even talk about by saying, oh, it's probably

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Speaker 2: you Dan.

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Speaker 3: I believe that in the moment, and then I thought

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Speaker 3: about it and I was like, actually, that sounds like

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Speaker 3: something I would do.

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Speaker 2: You need to get going, Mark, I know you before

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Speaker 2: the show. You're getting a little jittery. I so you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not unlike the two of you.

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Speaker 1: I have multiple responsibilities in the city, on the planet

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Speaker 1: and have somewhere with a tight deadline. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we've done a lot of things today and we took

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Speaker 1: a big long lunch in the middle, and so I

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Speaker 1: really enjoyed that. But then it suddenly started a clock

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Speaker 3: Be I'm expecting clip dancers from from market.

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Speaker 4: You're doing the show.

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Speaker 2: Because we we began with it's Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: Of course it is next.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to try to get through this in

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Speaker 2: a decent amount of time. For Mark, you to handle

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Speaker 2: all the adult responsibilities that you had.

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Speaker 1: I only care about. I only care about. I did

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Speaker 1: not say that you don't have these responsible But if

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Speaker 1: you did that, if one of you had the responsibility,

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Speaker 1: we would have crank this thing. We would have been

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Speaker 2: You do have responsibilities right now, our responsibilities to the audience.

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Speaker 1: To just what I say, is that care about the

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Speaker 1: list and the co hosts that I work with.

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Speaker 2: I think you care about driving fifty four miles per

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Speaker 2: hour out of this building in exactly forty four minutes.

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Speaker 3: I care about that too, Not as fast as he'll

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Speaker 2: We gotta start getting a camera on Mark exiting the

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Speaker 2: studio or any of our Shadowy League figure meetings. It's

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Speaker 3: There was a classic quad on Monday where yeah, you were,

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Speaker 2: It was just like chair was spinning.

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Speaker 1: Look, I spent like I had like twenty terrible corporate jobs,

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Speaker 1: to rise it. Because I'm a I'm not acclimated to that.

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Speaker 2: We do that out of respect for you. We don't

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Speaker 2: give you a hard time about it because usually in

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Speaker 2: those meetings, Greg and I then have another ten minutes

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Speaker 2: where the boss is still want to talk post meeting, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but usually thinke that way. It's taking that bullet for

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I've stayed to the end of many of them.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's a lot of it's a lot

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Speaker 1: like like like you know what saw products someone? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like just like it's not nothing like what what

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Speaker 2: Why are we here? Anyways?

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Speaker 1: Big question that I'm adding multiple minutes to the show

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Speaker 3: We are actually got to tackle that on the Metaphysical podcast.

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Speaker 4: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: Right now? We're gonna pick yes, our predictions and awards

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Speaker 2: for the season. This is once that once it's on

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Speaker 2: digital print for NFL dot Com, you can't go back

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Speaker 2: to the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: And you know, listen, I remember Greg with his whole like,

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Speaker 2: oh I picked the Eagles thing. I remember, we couldn't

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Speaker 2: we couldn't stop hearing about that. And it's because Greg

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Speaker 2: in his back pocket. And that's not even a shot

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Speaker 2: on you. Greg. You knew you had this article in

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Speaker 2: the digital archive that you could point to forever.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we have an opportunity once again to be

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Speaker 3: That's all you're going for in this sort of exercise,

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Speaker 1: And they offer this thing mid season where you can

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Speaker 2: I always decline that one, but not out of disrespect

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Speaker 2: for my colleagues. No, like Greg last year, because I

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Speaker 2: stand on what it uh Will Smith saying Concussion tell

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Speaker 2: the truth. I tell the truth here. I don't need

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Speaker 4: We don't mention that movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, out of loyalty to the employer. I never went

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Speaker 2: Shoosh. All right, let's get to it. Let's do it

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Speaker 2: this way. Let's start by talking awards, okay, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll get to the picks for the divisions wild cards,

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Speaker 2: and then close with our Super Bowl picks. Which way

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Speaker 2: do we want to go? Let's go from down to up.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Coach of the Year. All right, all right,

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Speaker 2: and this is an interesting one. Let me throw out

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Speaker 2: first of all, the NFL dot Com consensus was my

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Speaker 2: boy Robert Sala, and I get it. The idea that

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Speaker 2: the DraftKings they're using there? Caesars? I think it's Caesars. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Sala got the most votes. None of us, though, voted

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Speaker 2: for Sala. Take that all people the popping, but I

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Speaker 2: get it. As a choice, I went with Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: Tomlin has never won Coach of the Year. Would you

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 5: I like that choice by you, plus for a guy

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Speaker 2: And remember when Leo finally got the oscar for The Revenant.

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Speaker 3: Needs more than that, I think to win Coach of

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Speaker 3: the Year, I think you need to win the division,

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Speaker 4: Because now the expectations.

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Speaker 2: Who says, I don't have Mike Tomlin winning the division right.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I'm just I think that's what he'll need because

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Speaker 3: But I love that choice. They sort of wish that

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Speaker 3: most differing opinions. Fourteen different people got votes here, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a tough road for Tomalin

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Speaker 1: unless they have like a three or four game spike

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Speaker 1: and win the division.

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Speaker 2: All us I have Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 1: I think he fits the narrative of what how this

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Speaker 2: Like the Falcons have been competent under him.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about them a ton, so I don't even

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be a fun team and a completely

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Speaker 3: Votes, so he actually is one of the favorites depending

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, Dan Campbell's the favorite to win Coach of

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Speaker 2: As the backstory because everyone knows he's hind of on

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Speaker 2: I think they're all good picks comeback player of the Year.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting. So twenty two votes for an NFL

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Speaker 1: One really stands unless they Unless they they forget that

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Speaker 1: Deamar Hamlin nearly died on the football field and now

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Speaker 3: He got the second most out of votes, And I

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Speaker 3: offering Betty Lions at Comeback Player the Year, So I

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Speaker 3: to bet on generally, but especially with Tamar Hamlin.

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Speaker 4: But other places are putting up odds for this.

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Speaker 2: And Adam Shine come back to us, right.

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Speaker 3: And Tamar Hamlin actually is a huge favorite to win

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Speaker 4: But he got all three of our votes.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna win. The only other.

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Speaker 4: One went Ridley. Oh, John Metchi would make some sense.

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Speaker 2: That what you're gonna say the only other person John

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Speaker 2: Metchu obviously battled leukemia after being a second round pick

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Speaker 2: Tua got a vote here? Odell Okay, Beckham Lamar, come on,

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Speaker 2: you don't do not give away Comeback Player of the

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Speaker 3: Christian Gonzales voted for Tua as the Comeback Player of

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Speaker 3: the Year. This is not and I've done some digging,

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Speaker 3: it's not the Christian Gonzales that was taking seventeenth overall.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, he's not working. It's a digital content producer.

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Speaker 3: And he went to a defensive Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Let's see Hansas.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, that's funny.

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Speaker 2: Hansas voted with the majority here at Jalen Carter, the

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Speaker 2: So he was my pick. Who did you guys go with?

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Speaker 1: So I am one of two people along with Nick

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Speaker 2: Just take them. I think they're it's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: And I think cornerback is the kind of thing that

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Speaker 3: History says it's usually won by a pass rusher or

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Speaker 3: think he might struggle to get a you know, more

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Speaker 4: But we did get three votes.

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Speaker 3: Ow uh, he's had such a good camp and preseason

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Speaker 2: That's a nice arthrow. The Homer and me really wanted

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Speaker 2: to go with Will McDonald who got two votes in

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Speaker 1: That was really and you rand it in on Sola

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Speaker 3: Anderson is the favorite, by the way, the Jalen Carter

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Speaker 2: It offensive rookie in the of the Year. This is

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Speaker 2: a runaway. In terms of NFL media voting. Twenty six

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Speaker 2: to Bjon Robinson. Can't get too cute, however, he got clever.

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Speaker 4: Danny got a little cute.

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Speaker 2: Well, this makes sense though, I got a little cute,

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Speaker 2: because what's the one thing that could take out Bijon

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Speaker 4: Rocks ten rocks? Is that? Is that how we're talking?

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Speaker 2: I talk over you.

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Speaker 3: I like that if you were going to pick one

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Speaker 3: of the three quarterbacks. Richardson is actually longer odds in

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Speaker 3: Vegas than Bryce Young, and I agree with you he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I it's gonna be a tough team to

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Speaker 3: be I felt great about Beeson. I've been riding the

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Speaker 2: Robbins. It happened to notice Jack and Harry Hans's time. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Robson number one overall in our kids.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you had the eleventh pick and he fell

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Speaker 3: that far. And like many of Jack and Harry quote

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Speaker 3: I saw, when they say, you know how they do

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Speaker 3: just like every time there was great picks, I looked

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Speaker 2: You know these two things you need to know. Hey

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Speaker 2: us finishing three and eleven? Wait really yeah, but that whatever.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked because I really did think you'rett But I

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Speaker 2: I in my league of a record. I once had

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Speaker 2: But if my sons were very you know, my youngest

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Speaker 2: it would have been Aaron Rodgers' first pick, yeah, Garrett

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Speaker 2: Wilson's second pick. They would tried to pick Sauce third pick,

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Speaker 2: and for instance, Aaron Rodgers coming off the board in

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Speaker 3: Not in this league, which is which are mostly kids

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Speaker 3: justin fields went third overall or something. People are doing

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Speaker 2: I have, but also you turn your child into a

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Speaker 3: I didn't turn them here so like he has such

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Speaker 4: But I did help my daughter.

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Speaker 3: He took what that? He took Brady and mac Jones

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Speaker 4: I don't know which story.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, Yeah, company, a company man, it's a company child.

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Speaker 3: But he's just like that. But it did make me

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was an adult job, but much

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Speaker 3: I give her like an option of a handful of

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Speaker 2: All right, where were we there? Oh yeah, show idea?

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Speaker 3: Sorry dad corner there Zay Flowers got to vote. I

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Speaker 3: think that was a nice let's Jerry, that's Jeremy Bergman.

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Speaker 3: That's what he's going out, Liar.

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Speaker 4: That's a fun little plus sixteen vote.

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Speaker 2: That's good, Jerry Bergman. Jerry going by that. No, no,

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Speaker 4: Jon is plus two seventy five to get it. I

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Speaker 2: So what does that mean? If you put down one

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Speaker 2: hundred bucks on beijon, what do you make.

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Speaker 4: You got two seventy five?

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Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense. That's a bad bet though.

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Speaker 1: Well also, you're not allowed to you you particularly would not.

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Speaker 2: That's how I don't know. Yes, I don't do those things.

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Speaker 2: But Greg seems plugged in.

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Speaker 3: But we're just listing what we're listing on the website.

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Speaker 3: That's gotta be allowed.

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Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see.

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Speaker 2: The number one vote getter is Micah Parsons of the

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Speaker 4: Love this.

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Speaker 2: Mark Sessler went with I was.

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Speaker 1: The lone individual in the entire organization that voted for

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Speaker 2: God bless you, Chill. That has an absolute chance of happening.

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Speaker 1: If the Jets are on television four thousand times and

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Speaker 1: he has like three pick sixes and wins a game

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Speaker 1: with a pick six and he's sort of just Drell

442
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Speaker 1: Reeves two point zero.

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Speaker 3: He has been positioned as that type of star, and

444
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Speaker 3: they never mentioned everything.

445
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Speaker 2: They never gave Darrell Defensive Player of the Year, which

446
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 2: was an absolute travesty. But if he wins Defensive Rookie

447
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Speaker 2: of the Year and then Defensive Player of the Year

448
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Speaker 2: year one two, we're talking about a potential.

449
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Speaker 1: It is a stretch that I think it's a little

450
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Speaker 1: bit tough. It's gonna be tougher versus some of these TJ.

451
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Speaker 1: Watts and Parsons and Miles Garretts of the world.

452
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Speaker 3: I am buying and I think this is my favorite

453
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Speaker 3: pick of all my picks in terms of like, look,

454
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Speaker 3: even though he's the most likely guy Parsons, he's still

455
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Speaker 3: plus four fifty and to me, I think he's got

456
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Speaker 3: room to grow. We heard about it all offseason. I

457
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Speaker 3: just think there's another gear for him to go and

458
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Speaker 3: he's already one of the best defensive players I've ever seen.

459
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Speaker 4: So I love me some Micah Parsons this year.

460
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Speaker 2: And I've always been a fan of Miles Garrett and

461
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: his upside, and he does deliver every season when he's healthy.

462
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: But is this the year where he doesn't get slowed

463
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Speaker 2: down by anything? And if that doesn't happen, and Mark,

464
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Speaker 2: you've been watching him since day one, Yeah, closely. If

465
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Speaker 2: he gets through a season where he doesn't get dinged

466
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Speaker 2: up and slowed down, I think he's a guy could

467
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Speaker 2: break the sack record bye week seven.

468
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Speaker 1: I think it also like, so you did have Clowney

469
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Speaker 1: there for a couple of years, but Zadarius Smith alongside him.

470
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Speaker 2: That helps.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like you can't ignore the other side

472
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Speaker 1: of the ball. And there's been a couple of seasons

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Speaker 1: where he was sort of an island, the lone guy

474
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Speaker 1: and getting triple teamed and still getting numbers. I do

475
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Speaker 1: feel like there's a little bit of bias against the

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Speaker 1: Browns in general, just through this whole extra that we

477
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Speaker 1: go into.

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Speaker 4: I get to that I disagree.

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Speaker 1: I disagree, maybe not Miles Garrett, but that team.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to it. Let's get to it. Offensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year, Greg, did you sit out this year?

482
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Speaker 2: I know you.

483
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Speaker 3: I actually did it for the first time ever, and

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Speaker 3: I even got a response from our editors saying, wow,

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Speaker 3: you did it this year.

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Speaker 1: I did it, So I actually really a difficult employees.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I have principles and I stand by

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Speaker 3: them until the one year I randomly don't.

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Speaker 2: For the new listeners, why don't you like Offensive Player

490
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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 4: Year because it's just like as a concept.

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Speaker 3: Because it used to It's just like it should be

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Speaker 3: the best quarter It's just the same as MVP because

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Speaker 3: MVP is always offensive.

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Speaker 4: It should be the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like best picture.

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Speaker 3: I guess I've been convinced that it's just a nice

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Speaker 3: way to honor someone else that's not a qu minor tweak.

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Speaker 2: Would be make Offensive Player of the Year non quarterback award? Yes? Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: There were a number of years.

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Speaker 3: Manning was one year there was a Rogers year where

502
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Speaker 3: the quarterback swept the same guy, and that was when

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Speaker 3: I would really was against it.

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Speaker 4: But that hasn't been happening lately.

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Speaker 2: That should not be allowed. I was a little surprised

506
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 2: to see this and the vote was split heavily on

507
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: this one, so the leading vote had only got seven votes,

508
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: and none of us here did it, but Kevin Patrick did.

509
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, I just you know, he's just so there's

510
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: so many touches to go around there, and I know

511
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 2: he's gonna get plenty in San Francisco. But is he

512
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 2: gonna be able to stay healthy? You never know. Okay,

513
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: so let's see where did I go. I went with

514
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson. So there was my Jet fandom coming through maybe,

515
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 2: but not really because Garrett Wilson to me, and I

516
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Speaker 2: don't need to get into this because I've said it before,

517
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Speaker 2: but when you watch him, he's one of those guys

518
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: he just jumps off the screen and when the ball's

519
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: in his hands, he's both smooth and violent in the

520
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Speaker 2: way he runs, cuts, jukes. And now you pair with

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and the chemistry is absolutely there. I thought

522
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Speaker 2: it was a nice little moment and hard knocks when

523
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Speaker 2: their last play together on the field touchdown on a

524
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Speaker 2: perfectly thrown Rogers ball, and Rogers went up to Garret

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Speaker 2: well said, first of many bro, Aaron Rodgers knows he's

526
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: special that's good enough for me. If he says healthy,

527
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: I might have an onion hanger coming up when we

528
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: do our sandwich props around Garrett Wilson, I'll hold it there.

529
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Speaker 2: That was my pick.

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Speaker 1: I uh, let's see. I went Jalen Hurts. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I kind of think if I could organize

532
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: the awards a certain way, it wouldn't be it would

533
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Speaker 1: be quarterbacks.

534
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Speaker 3: And he went it last? Did he or Justin Jefferson

535
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Speaker 3: win it last year? I think Justin Jeffers's interesting. They're

536
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Speaker 3: both twenty five hundred in Vegas. It's just weird because like, then,

537
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Speaker 3: why was he Why wouldn't he be the MVP.

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Speaker 2: Well, because there's someone else that very clearly could be

539
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Speaker 2: the m v P.

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Speaker 1: But you shouldn't be two quarterbacks, but it is so

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Speaker 1: I look, there's on this list. There is Justin Fields,

542
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, Labar Jackson, Tua Chase.

543
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Speaker 3: Chase got the second most amount of votes in Vegas. Chase, In,

544
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Speaker 3: Jefferson and McCaffrey are the top three most likely. I

545
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: went totally wild. I went Chris o'lave saw that. I mean,

546
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Speaker 3: I do I think this is gonna happen. I mean,

547
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 3: probably not, but I just thought he would be nice

548
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: to throw him in the mix as someone to keep

549
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: an eye on, and that he would have a chance.

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Speaker 3: I think he has a chance at like a fifteen

551
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Speaker 3: sixteen hundred yard season. It's a bit of the long shot.

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Speaker 2: I like it. Finally, Yeah, that's a good pick. I

553
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 2: think a LaVey was basically Garrett Wilson South last year

554
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: guy that was just different, special right away. Most Valuable Player?

555
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: All right, so in this category, Mark, you and I

556
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: both went with the great Mahomes. Yeah. I went with

557
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Speaker 2: Mahomes because you know these MVP awards, you see it,

558
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: they are not afraid to go on runs with guys

559
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: the voters. They are okay with that. Brett Farva, I

560
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: believe one three in a row. We've seen other players.

561
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: Manning won multiples, players go on streaks. Brady, I believe

562
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: did it back to back right? At some point? Did

563
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: he never do back?

564
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Speaker 4: He was he was quite Yeah, his three were pretty far.

565
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: Let me look the state up. But I thought he

566
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: if there's anybody and got a couple in a row,

567
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: If there's anybody who the academy as it were would

568
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: be willing to continue to reward excellence. It's this guy

569
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: who's the face of the NFL. So I feel good

570
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 2: knowing that Mahomes once again is gonna put up monster

571
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: numbers for the best team in football, the Super Bowl champs.

572
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: That's my vote, easy. But I think he is he

573
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Speaker 2: just in the flesh he is.

574
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Speaker 1: And you're right, it is the one category where it's like,

575
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: we don't have to come up with a different name

576
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Speaker 1: every year, like Coach of the Year and all these

577
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Speaker 1: other ones, Like it's just Mahomes and it would be

578
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Speaker 1: an upset to me if any of these other names won.

579
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Speaker 2: But Greg, you went.

580
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Speaker 4: Well last year.

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Speaker 3: I nailed that MVP by choosing Mahomes and I'm honking

582
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Speaker 3: about it right now. And not that many people. We're

583
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Speaker 3: picking Mahomes last year, so you got it. You don't

584
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: want to be a year late. So I moved to

585
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 3: my guy in the division, Justin Herbert. So this is

586
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: the year and he's unleashed, Kellen Moore going down the field,

587
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 3: great offensive line, great weapons. I really do think he's

588
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: got a chance for a five thousand yard insane statistical

589
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: season and he's not one of the bigger long. You know,

590
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: he's like the fourth or fifth favorite in Vegas. So

591
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: I'm not totally coming out of left field, but I

592
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: went justin Herbert Okay.

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00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: And my long shot. We talked about it earlier or

594
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: last week. Trevor Lawrence is a long shot. I kind

595
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: of like, I don't know if did he get any votes?

596
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: No, not one little surprise in Vegas.

597
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: He's only the sixth, six or seventh most likely, which

598
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: is not too low on the list.

599
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: Here is just for you history buffs out there. Joe

600
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Speaker 2: Montana went back to back eighty nine to ninety. Farv

601
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: went back to back to back ninety five ninety six.

602
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: There you go. Seven, that's insane, Hello, Larry, let's see

603
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: Kurt Waterer one two out of three doesn't count. Peyton

604
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,239
Speaker 2: Manning went back to back O three. He shared it

605
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Speaker 2: with McNair and then one on his own in four,

606
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: and then Manning waned again back to back wow eight

607
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 2: and nine h and then it kind of bounced around

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Speaker 2: a little bit until Rogers went back to back in

609
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Speaker 2: twenty and twenty one. So there is history, and Mahomes

610
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: has never gone back to back even though he's won

611
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Speaker 2: it twice. So if anybody if you were to set

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Speaker 2: odds on like, who's a guy that's gonna have at

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Speaker 2: least one stretches his career where he wins back to back.

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Speaker 2: Come on, absolutely, it's Pat. Bad sketch had become a movie.

615
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Speaker 2: We'll never know. We'll never know. I like Julia Sweeney,

616
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: fine good communicating actors, a funny woman. They'd say that

617
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: was a big misstep by old Lauren Michaels.

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Speaker 4: Beurable SNL say the least four kids out there.

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Speaker 3: It's Pat was a popular sketch on the show Saturday

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Speaker 3: Night Live in the late nineties, early night, early day.

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Speaker 2: Maybe even mid Okay, So there you go. That is

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Speaker 2: all the award predictions. When we get back season predictions,

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Speaker 2: including our super Bowl picks. Tease, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: said that seven or eight things he told you to do.

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Speaker 2: You go do that, well, said Mark. And on Thursday

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Speaker 2: we're back. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. Now it gets real because

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Speaker 2: you know winning awards, Mark, that's an individual triumph. Yeah,

647
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: that would be focused on self. But the idea in

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Speaker 2: the end is for the team collectively to be hoisting

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Speaker 2: that Lombardi Trophy. So let's talk about what really matters

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Speaker 2: success of the teams. We're going to go through the divisions,

651
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Speaker 2: pick the division winners also share our wild card picks,

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Speaker 2: and then we'll get to the postseason. But let's start

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00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: in the AFC, and let's do it. Let's start in

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Speaker 2: the AFC East Mark. Who do you got coming out

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Speaker 2: of this division as the champ?

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Speaker 1: This was the toughest division for me to sort through.

657
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: I spent probably eighteen to twenty seconds on this one.

658
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: I went Bills, Good.

659
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: Well, No, when you're filling this thing, are you kind

660
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: of just you have been thinking about this for months?

661
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: Yes? Bang through these There's two ways to look at it.

662
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: You could labor over it, right or you're right? After all.

663
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: The kind of conversations gout instant.

664
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Speaker 3: I feel like I've been thinking about it. You think

665
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: about it all off season. But I also had to

666
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: contact the editors to change my answers multiple times.

667
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: You weren't Greg, I don't know what? Like what you know?

668
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: What did you go with? Greg?

669
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 4: I went with the Bills. This one I didn't from

670
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: what What did you change it from?

671
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: No?

672
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: This division? I didn't.

673
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: I mean there were a couple other choices. It was

674
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: the NFC wildcard situation. I kept going back and forth.

675
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: We'll get to that.

676
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: I felt good.

677
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: I mean I led my over unders with the Bills,

678
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: or I didn't lead it, but they were one of

679
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: my picks of the over I just feel like they

680
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: are one of the three or four best teams in

681
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: the NFL still until I am shown otherwise taking them

682
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: over your Jets.

683
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: A lot of people took the Jets, though. That worry

684
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: you Dan.

685
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: More than ever in this exercise took the Jets. I would,

686
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: I would gamble, So I think it was well if

687
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: you go all the way back to peak Rex, I

688
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: don't think they've had many people doing this back then.

689
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have them going over the Patriots. Maybe that

690
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: one year there was a lot of maybe one twenty

691
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: twelve votes for the Jets and twenty for the Bills.

692
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: That sounds about right in terms of I'm surprised the

693
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: Dolphins only got two.

694
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh yeah, stunner, I went with the Jets.

695
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: Patra In shook win Dolphins. Yeah, And that's that's okay too,

696
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 2: because I see the Jets, who are at plus two

697
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: to fifty by the way, Dolphins plus three hundred. You

698
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: could make a case for either of those teams if

699
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 2: things break the right way, and then the Bills come

700
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: down just a little bit. It's very interesting and by

701
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: the way, no votes for your darling Patriots, Greggy. But

702
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: here's the good news. Someone that we respect very much,

703
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: a former colleague, did pick the Patriots to win the division,

704
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: Connor Orr, and he was met with furious blowback in

705
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: the industry. Let's listen in Welcome back to a very

706
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: recognizable show.

707
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 6: Check In on Sports illustrates Connor Orr, who predicted every

708
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 6: game on the schedule and has what do you know,

709
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 6: the Patriots winning the af E East.

710
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: What I do wonder whether, upon the return to Bill O'Brien,

711
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: this is Connor's writing.

712
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 6: Will assume that same kind of automatic competency.

713
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: I like that.

714
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 6: I like that a lot that defined the majority. I

715
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 6: would add large majority.

716
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: Really, I would add almost all, vast majority.

717
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 6: Vast majority is even better of the Bill Belichick eras Brew.

718
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 6: I didn't even write a question here, I was just

719
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 6: going to pontificate. But do you have any issues with this?

720
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? This is ridiculous.

721
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: First things first, fs one, that's gonna be a drop

722
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: who's the gentleman?

723
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: By the way, that was Christopher Sarrd.

724
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: I do love how he prefaced it with Connor or

725
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: usually does good work.

726
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: I don't know that's a good way to like when

727
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: you absolutely hate the take but don't want to come

728
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: off as a jerk. I was kind of a pro move.

729
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: I love you, Connor. You did it, and I think

730
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: it could be a fun, spicy one. They're plus eight

731
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 3: hundred to win the division, so it's a little crazy,

732
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: but the craziest thing and we might have. I'm just

733
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: gonna mention it now while we're talking pages, because we're

734
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: not going to revisit it. They're not in any of

735
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: our wild card picks. They were in any of the

736
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: thirty six respondents wild card picks. Oh for for these Patriots,

737
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 3: And I can't hate on it because I didn't pick

738
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: them either. I don't think it's that, but I do

739
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: like a little Patriots lying in the weed season.

740
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: Well all right, that's fine, But like this is why

741
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: I was surprised that I'm the only one that feels

742
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: that fell Chick's safer than perhaps you guys do, just

743
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: because the team's not that great and the division seems

744
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: to be very good.

745
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: The team, if they're not great, he is the most respons.

746
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: He could coach this team up and they could go

747
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: seven to ten. And it's not because he's bad at

748
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: what he does. It's because think about it that.

749
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, he's as a general manager. You'd have

750
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: to say this overall roster is lacking.

751
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: I think it's average, but that's it's a very average team.

752
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 4: I think it's average. I don't think it's just not great. No,

753
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: But I think it's.

754
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: Reason we're talking about Belichick this year particularly, it's relative

755
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: to all the other seasons where he was as safe

756
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: as any coach in any sport. It's now Kraft has

757
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: talked about this team this season, the Bill Belichick experience,

758
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: the Matt Patricia experience, in a bit of a different

759
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: way than we've ever heard him talk about Belichick. And

760
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: I think, you know, these marriages come to a conclusion

761
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: at times. This is a different feel. You have to

762
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: say that, Dan, right in past years with Belichick.

763
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: I like that. It's a different era. No, So that's

764
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: why we're not special anymore.

765
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: They're not.

766
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: And yet I should have you know, I'm not showing

767
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: my belief because I didn't put them as a wildcard

768
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: or anything. There's just so many good teams in the AFC.

769
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: But I am honestly optimistic that they can surprise teams

770
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: winning with the defense of personnel that they have in

771
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: a much more efficient offense. It just would not surprise

772
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: me at all if they beat one of the end

773
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: up ahead of one of these AFC East teams. The

774
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: Jets are the Dolphins specifically that end up being a

775
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: disciplined well.

776
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: One of these teams will probably lose their quarterback for

777
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: the year. It's like, I think, I see the Patriots

778
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: like winning eight games. They're not a disaster.

779
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: I say that, I think they have a chance to

780
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: win ten games this year, but I did not saying

781
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: it with my chest because they were als.

782
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: Said, I am with you. I thought that last year,

783
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: but I underestimated the Patricia disaster of it all. I

784
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: think they're always lying in the weeds in that sense.

785
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: And guess what, Bill Belichiche was gonna win Coach of

786
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: the Year if they win ten games. I was nobody.

787
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: He's never won.

788
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: I was very down on them last year. This year,

789
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: I feel I feel all better. I feel better, all right,

790
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: Saucy more on some of these teams.

791
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: In a bit AFC North, I.

792
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 4: Greg Marcus checked his clock.

793
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: I mean there's also I had a thing to show

794
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: my function in the little a little, just like series

795
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: started talking to you, A little thing showed up on

796
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: my on my watch, so I looked at it.

797
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: Greg and I both went with the defending champs, the

798
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. As I said last week, no team has

799
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: ever won this division three years in a row. The

800
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: Bengals are looking to do it. I think they will,

801
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: but that's not that doesn't mean. Oh look, old Zeuster

802
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: got the blurbed in this one. They came to me

803
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: for the blurb. I love that. Don't remember writing it.

804
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: Why Dan Hanris chose the Bengals. The clock is ticking

805
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: for the offensive core that surrounds Joe Burrow. After back

806
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: to back seasons of great success that fell just short

807
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: with their seeing an all time high. Cincinnati, balanced, battle tested,

808
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: and led by a true difference maker quarterback, will defend

809
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: its division crown in a rugged AFC.

810
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: Rugged nice graft. Where did you You don't recall writing

811
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: that I knocked it out yesterday?

812
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: I do remember, all.

813
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: Right, tough schedule, but uh, I think if I had

814
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: to just choose one team, you know, just the Bengals

815
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: to me feel like the safest, even more than the Cheese.

816
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: I really feel good about the Bengals coming into this year.

817
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: What's not to like?

818
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the division in the schedule, I guess.

819
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, or just something you know, so specifically, what's not

820
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: to like about this team?

821
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: Like, remember they went they were steaming, they won ten

822
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: in a row last year. Once they figured things out

823
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: and Burrow got healthy, I think it's gonna be a

824
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: very similar vibe. I think they're gonna roll Burrow has

825
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, MVP vibes.

826
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: I think they just got to protect against like another

827
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: slow start. I mean the Burrough Calf thing. Eh, it

828
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: kind of like freaks me a little bit, But he's practicing.

829
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Maybe he's fine as long as they manage that crew.

830
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 4: And you the Steelers.

831
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: You're in so deep with the Steelers now that you

832
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: almost have no other choice.

833
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: I didn't, I wasn't. I didn't do this as a

834
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: trick or a folly. Like I think they're going to

835
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: win the division.

836
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: Well, you're run of four people, thirty four voters. I

837
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: think I've seen the last couple of weeks. In the

838
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, I'm starting to hear so much.

839
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers thing is becoming the vast opposite

840
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: of original because it's everyone's starting to pile on and

841
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: feel the Steelers.

842
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: People put too much into the preseason.

843
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 4: It's true, well were so fired.

844
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: I also put this Mike Tomlin with bad Steelers teams

845
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: or down Steelers teams, still pulls off nine wins.

846
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: This is a better version of the Steelers than we've

847
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: seen in a long time.

848
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: Totally.

849
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: They didn't have t J. Watt for most of last season.

850
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: I think their quarterback, like I do, put into the

851
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: preseason the way that Kenny pick it through the ball

852
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: and looked.

853
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's a great point.

854
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: Mark. It's just it's I feel like it's a runaway

855
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: train now that because they are fish in on some

856
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: preseason drives against it. That's what I wouldn't called a runaway.

857
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: Runaway toy got half the votes the Ravens got.

858
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm talking about much just absurd. What about the

859
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: the Sessler curse though that that was very real last

860
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: year you took down multiple teams.

861
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: Well that's ruesome, that's absolute, like you know, that's psychological warfare.

862
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: Like if I'm a Steelers fan, I am furious by

863
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: how excited you are about this.

864
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: So little uncanny And how about this about this, how

865
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I'd leave the league and start build a house in

866
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: the desk.

867
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 2: About this, Greg the or Mark the X Browns fan

868
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: gassing up the Steelers gas lighting in a reverse jinks

869
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: for the Ages.

870
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: And not gas lighting gas lighting And those are hard

871
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: air quotes for the listeners. For Mark the X Browns fan, Well.

872
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: What what if I had to pick some team? Yeah, well,

873
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: hold on, whatever team I pick in this division is

874
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: a former hated foe.

875
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 4: So you've been down on the Ravens and he didn't.

876
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: Pick the Browns, and nobody picked the Browns. So that's

877
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: not a single voter. It thinks the Browns with the

878
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: Shawn Watson could win this division.

879
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so divisions fine, but even we'll dig in later.

880
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: It's like they just were largely ignored.

881
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: I find that.

882
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: I think there's Scottis yeah, but I don't think they're

883
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: making the playoffs, So okay, no problem.

884
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: Amision's a pretty AFC is deep deep deep deep AFC

885
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: South not so deep now paratively, but thirty one votes

886
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: for the Jaguars. Greg is a special little boy, so

887
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: he said the Titans.

888
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 3: I mean, why aren't you a special little boy when

889
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: you've been making some of your.

890
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: Out of left because, as I've said that you do

891
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: not like the jack.

892
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: Well, I do think there's someone. I do think there's

893
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 3: opportunity here. The Jaguars are a heavier favorite to win

894
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: their division than I believe any team is in the

895
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: entire NFL. I guess they're the same as the Chiefs

896
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: to win to win their division.

897
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: That's too much to me.

898
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: And why is that, though, Because because the view of

899
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: the Titans is so low, and then rightfully it's low

900
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: of the Colts and Textans, so it's about the rest

901
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: of the division. But to me, the gap between the

902
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: Titans and the Jaguars in all respects is not that big.

903
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it's big coaching take the Titans. I

904
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: think the defense is really loaded, and I think Tannahill

905
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: and Hopkins we'll see. But I think the Titans are

906
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: kind of the poor Man's Steelers, whereas like even in

907
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: their worst season like last year, they still find no

908
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: way to get seven. I think they get to nine

909
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: or ten, and I think that might be I think.

910
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: What we're seeing here with it with just three votes,

911
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: including yours, is that the Titans have been probably prematurely

912
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: totally written off there's a couple of reasons for it.

913
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't fix some of their own problems.

914
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: We talked about the line. Their wide receiver situation is

915
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: really variable. We don't know what we're gonna get with

916
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill or any quarterback behind them. But the things

917
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: you mentioned are consistent and real.

918
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: I am a special little boy, My mama.

919
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: You are a special little boy. She's still ann and

920
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: tell you that. I mean, she listens to the show,

921
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: so maybe she'll give you a call and.

922
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 4: Say she has been lately.

923
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if she actually used those words, but

924
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: that's the feeling she left me with.

925
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I think good feeling. I think the window closed

926
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: great mount on this Titans team and now they're in transition.

927
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: And because the reason, the reason why I'm not feel

928
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: good about banging the under on six and a half

929
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: or whatever seven and a half is because of the

930
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: reasons why what you're saying, Greg, I actually I think

931
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: your take is fair that there might not be as

932
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: big a gap between the Jags and Titans for this

933
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: to vote, for instance, to be that crazy thirty one

934
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: to three on NFL media. I hear you on that,

935
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: but one team does have a potential generational quarterback entering

936
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: year three really year two in Trevor Lawrence, and one

937
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: has a thirty year old running back who's going to

938
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, Ryan Tanneh, who's aging and brittle

939
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 2: at the stage, playing behind a bad offensive line.

940
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: All fair, they.

941
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: Got the tickle monsters on the defensive line.

942
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: I'll get me wrong, and I'm usually an offense is

943
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: what I pick, and they are.

944
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 4: The offense is the Jaguars. They are a great looking offense.

945
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 4: I hear you, all right.

946
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: AFC West thirty two votes. You are a special little

947
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: boy thirty two votes, including Hansas and hands this and

948
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: Sssler go with the defending champion Chiefs and it is

949
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: the Bolts according to Greg Now, you know you obviously

950
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: don't actually believe this. This is the dude getting a

951
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: little shine on the Chargers. Maybe you'll get some tickets

952
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: down the line. Maybe, well that would be Daniel Jeremiah

953
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: and Matt Muddy Smith reach out to you and say, hey man,

954
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: good job on that pick. Here, come by me on

955
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: the sea side of state, hang out for the weekend

956
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: in the offseason. There's definitely some you motivating factors behind

957
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: the scenes.

958
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: You have because you have flipped off your internal pr

959
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: campaign with the Rams and you've picked up the Chargers.

960
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Greg this is extremely Mackie Velli.

961
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: This is none of that is true, but it is.

962
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: You know, you don't believe. As a veteran, I do

963
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: believe it.

964
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: Tell me why the Chiefs are the best team of this.

965
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: As a veteran takesman, though, I think you are hitting

966
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: on something. Last year, you pick, you pick one special

967
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: team that you really believe has a chance to do

968
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: something special. For me, that was the Eagles, and you

969
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: ride that right. Who's that special team this year? I mean,

970
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: we'll get to the Super Bowl predictions and whatnot. But

971
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: for me, it's the Chargers, and I'd pink.

972
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: The seventh time in the last lst nine years it's

973
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the Charge.

974
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: Sure, but it wasn't last year. I think this is

975
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: going to be their year. I think their offense is

976
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: going to be unlocked. I think year three of Staley

977
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: gets better. I think the Chiefs and the Chargers in

978
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: this division, you know, I think this division is easier

979
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: than the North and the East. I think they both

980
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: have a chance to rack up twelve thirteen wins. Maybe

981
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: there's a little hangover effect from the Chiefs. I don't know.

982
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: They've been so good for so long it's hard to

983
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: discount them. But I think the Chargers have a better

984
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: chance to be like a top five team in the

985
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: NFL than anyone's given them credit for. I love what

986
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: I see. I know it's on paper. I know it's

987
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: the offensive line, but I think they got the quarterback,

988
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: they got the line. I'm rolling Chargers this year.

989
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: One thing that you see one of the keys with

990
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: FRANCESSA you have to have a bunch of pregnant pauses.

991
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: Yea, now I talked too fast.

992
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: One thing that you'll miss in here. Okay, you're missing

993
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: the fact that the Charges always find a way, and

994
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: so does Patrick mahomes back after this.

995
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: That's pretty good. It's got to end at some point,

996
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 4: you know.

997
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: So you got the blue per even even even even

998
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: Belichick and Brady would actually keep rolling through verbally.

999
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: The blurb selected. The man selected to write the blurb

1000
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: the AFC west uh Skill, Mark Sessler.

1001
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: I think that you're right checking to see if I

1002
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: was still awake. I wrote what fact whisper or Idoda

1003
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: of Gossip suggests the Chiefs are about to be stopped.

1004
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes will chop through a top

1005
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: heavy AFC and route to another conference title game, and

1006
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: they won't stop there.

1007
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: He went even further, he went, he went too far?

1008
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: Actually, actually, yeah, they once again spoiling. That are what

1009
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: are we spoiling?

1010
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: That's more the that's more the explanation for when you

1011
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: pick your Super Bowl teams.

1012
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: This was just the AFC West.

1013
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: But yes, guess who will do what they want? All right?

1014
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: So let's now go to our wild card picks. Okay,

1015
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: that's fun, all right. So I'm trying to think what's

1016
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: the best way to do this because this is a

1017
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: little hard.

1018
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 4: Don't we just each our three teams?

1019
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1020
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: Okay, So my wildcard teams in the AFC in order now,

1021
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: since I put the Chiefs not winning the division and

1022
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: in my vision, Chiefs and Chargers both win twelve or

1023
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: thirteen games something like that, so the Chiefs are my

1024
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: number one wildcard team. I included the Ravens as my

1025
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 3: second wildcard team. I do think their ceiling is extra

1026
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 3: high and I think the offense is going to be special,

1027
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: and I as my third wildcard team. Why am I

1028
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: forgetting right now? I put the Jets, I do. I

1029
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 3: wanted to. I kind of wanted to hate on the Jets,

1030
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: but I just don't believe it. I believe that they're

1031
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: going to be good enough on both.

1032
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 4: Sides of the ball, so they got in.

1033
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: All right.

1034
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: I've got the Bengals as the first wild card team.

1035
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: There's no like disdain for the Bengals on any level.

1036
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna get nicked by the Steelers.

1037
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: Chargers second, believe a lot of what you said, Greg,

1038
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: and Jets third.

1039
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: So we're pretty chalky here. Even though I switched my

1040
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 3: teams around, they weren't crazy teams.

1041
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: All right. What about I have because I picked the

1042
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Jets still in the East. But I still like the

1043
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: Bills a lot. Okay, so I have them as my

1044
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: first wild card. I have the Browns as my second

1045
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: wild card. I and I'm one of the only people

1046
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: the entire media group to even think they have a

1047
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 2: chance to even play January football.

1048
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 4: Four people put them into the playoffs out of thirty.

1049
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: And I do have three teams coming out of the

1050
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: AFC North. I have the Pittsburgh Steelers as the third

1051
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: wild card team, So that means that I don't see

1052
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: the Dolphins or the Chargers getting that spot and feel

1053
00:48:59,160 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: pretty good about it.

1054
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 3: I think we were all sensible. I like the Browns

1055
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: got some representation. I'm not in on it, but it

1056
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: seems to me they should be represented. It's interesting none

1057
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 3: of us put the Dolphins in the playoffs. And it's

1058
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: funny because if we had taped this podcast in May,

1059
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: the Dolphins very well might have been my Chargers that

1060
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: I just would.

1061
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 4: Have put it all.

1062
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: I was all into the Dolphins back then, and for

1063
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 3: some reason, by the time we got to the season,

1064
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: it just feels like there's nine or ten really good

1065
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: AFC teams and the Dolphins, after a bad August, got

1066
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: left out.

1067
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm overrating August.

1068
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: I think I think they're getting dinged because of this

1069
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: of the injuries in the past couple weeks.

1070
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: In general, Who do I trust more?

1071
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 7: Though?

1072
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: The Bills, the Jets are the Dolphins. I trust the

1073
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: Jets more than the Dolphins. I just feel like they're

1074
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: on a little more stable ground. Who do I trust more?

1075
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: I trust Harbaugh and Lamar, you know, and I and

1076
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: maybe I'm crazy, but I trust the Chargers too.

1077
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: All right, NFC, let's move over there now. The NFC East.

1078
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 4: Nobody put the Patriots in.

1079
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: How dare they? Nobody? Clearly interesting? Let's see, Mark Sessler,

1080
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: you have the Eagles defending their division, so do you?

1081
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: Greg Rosehal I was among ten voters out of thirty

1082
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: four to pick the Dallas Cowboys. And I think it's

1083
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: not crazy to think that the Cowboys can come up

1084
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: just a little bit and the Eagles come down a

1085
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: little bit. I think this is going to be a

1086
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 2: great division race. I think this is one of those

1087
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: who's who they are they playing each other Week eighteen?

1088
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: I hope they are. You always play your own take

1089
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: a look division, mate, because that would be incredible theater

1090
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 2: if that's the case.

1091
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: And they're not heavy heavy favorites the Eagles. They're minus

1092
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: one twenty five and the Cowboys are plus one sixty five,

1093
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 3: so not like a crazy gap, kind of similar to

1094
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: the twenty four to ten votes gap. But yeah, I'm

1095
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: I stuck with the Eagles.

1096
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: What do we got, Roberts? What's the Week eighteen Cowboys schedule?

1097
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 4: Eagles have the Giants Bummer eighteen?

1098
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: What are they doing?

1099
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: They've got They've got the Cowboys on Sunday Night Week

1100
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: fourteen and.

1101
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: Wee Cowboys have Commanders Week eighteen. Nice timers, sweet perfect?

1102
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Greg, you did you picked back there and you

1103
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: got the blurb on NFL dot com.

1104
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: I mean they know we're uh, we're top shelf writers here,

1105
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 3: and they go to us in big spots.

1106
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: Why Greg Roosevelt chose the Eagles, Colon go.

1107
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: The Eagles have the best combination of offensive and defensive

1108
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: lines in football. Jalen Hurts is their quarterback. Let's not

1109
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: over complicate things here.

1110
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: Greg's like, I'm getting out of this signment about four

1111
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: and a half minutes tops.

1112
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: I mean less than that, that's for sure, and half

1113
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: forty seconds all right, like.

1114
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: Texting while driving sending that in.

1115
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 4: Like, I'm just like, why why do we gotta even

1116
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 4: explain it? Look at this team?

1117
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: Not a single vote for the Giants or the Commanders.

1118
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: Let's move to the NFC North. Twenty votes for the

1119
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. So we are gassing up those lines, not

1120
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: all of us, though. Rosenthal's gassing them. Sesse is gassing them.

1121
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: I am a special little boy because I am among

1122
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 2: the group of people. I thought I picked the Vikings,

1123
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: but I didn't. I picked the Packers. Apparently, how about

1124
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: that that surprises me. But yeah, I said it on

1125
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: our last show that I know everything kind of checks

1126
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: out for the Lions here. Certainly it feels like it's

1127
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: there quote unquote time. But why do I think the

1128
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: Vikings and or the Packers. Not so much the Bears,

1129
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 2: not yet anyway, but certainly even possible for the Bears

1130
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: if everything broke the right way, come out of this

1131
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: as the division camp. I just don't like all the

1132
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: expectations on a Lions team that still has I know

1133
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: it's Jared Goffic quarterback. The offense played over its head

1134
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: a little bit potentially last year. I'm happy Ben Johnson's

1135
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: back there, but perhaps just perhaps the Lions aren't as

1136
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: good as we want them to be.

1137
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: I think it's, you know exactly, we haven't seen it.

1138
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: And the Lions are certainly the kind of team where historically,

1139
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: like I've attached myself to their caravan before and it's

1140
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: gone right off the side of a mountain.

1141
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 3: But you stuck with them, and you know, I've given

1142
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: you some grief and you stuck with him.

1143
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: You topped them. So I appreciate that.

1144
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: I think they have the potential to be the best

1145
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: team in a very confusing division.

1146
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: I think this is this is some point.

1147
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: It's not a good sign for the Bears that their

1148
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: only two votes were from Bears fans Alivon Pori and

1149
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: Adam Rank. You know, you know when they only get

1150
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: it from the fans. And I have noticed the odds

1151
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: have changed. Four months ago, the Packers were behind the

1152
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: Bears in terms of odds, and people have been kind

1153
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: of appreciating the Packers's chances more and more. Although the Vikings,

1154
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 3: despite not getting many votes and not getting much love

1155
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: from us, they're actually the second favorite in this division

1156
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: over in Vegas.

1157
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: Interesting. That means a lot of people in Chicago are

1158
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: guessing them up.

1159
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 4: No, the Vikings, the Vike favorite.

1160
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: None of us gave them love, but the Vikings are

1161
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: still a second favorite packersmmunicators producer.

1162
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I regret the air.

1163
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: You're multitasking, and I think everyone would forgive you if

1164
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 1: they understood the weight of your task.

1165
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of Chicago fans that are

1166
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: also quote unquote yeah, the Bears.

1167
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: Mark and I are on the same page with a

1168
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: lot of these teams.

1169
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 2: I like that you guys are on the same page

1170
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: with a lot of things in life. I finally all right,

1171
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: NFC South, Now let's get into it. Let's get hot,

1172
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: let's get really. Let's let's zero in on a team

1173
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: that we could all finally agree on. Have we had

1174
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 2: one division winner where we're all on the same side.

1175
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 4: Does it happen yet?

1176
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: I don't think it now because of Greg? Essentially, how

1177
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: about the Saints. I mean, of course we're gonna get

1178
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: it with the Saints. Here we go. Hanss has them

1179
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: winning the division. That's it because you got oh god,

1180
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: the Falcons gas up crew here.

1181
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 4: No, you.

1182
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: Did the wrong because I am guessing up the Desmond

1183
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: Renner team.

1184
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 3: So the Saints are the favorite. They're plus one oh five.

1185
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: They got twenty votes. Falcons plus one ninety, a little

1186
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 3: longer than I would expect, twelve votes including Rosenthals Tesler.

1187
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: Uh. Maybe maybe that gives you a little insight why

1188
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in the studio

1189
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 2: every single week. It's not because you guys speak about

1190
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: them like they could.

1191
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 3: Go twenty and oh now, I mean the second favorite

1192
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: in the division and they have a great it's somehow

1193
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: bigger than just like looking at the depth chart.

1194
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: For me, for them.

1195
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 4: It's just a feeling of their organization that they're on

1196
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 4: the right path.

1197
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is this is a low octane division.

1198
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: If someone stays healthy and has just a desire to

1199
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: absolutely take the top off of every other three houses

1200
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: in the division, that's what the Falcons.

1201
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: Are going to do. They're gonna beat you up, Dan

1202
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: and I.

1203
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: I get your exhaustion, but I think once you start

1204
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: to see them in the flesh, you're gonna understand where we're.

1205
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: Here's the thing that's annoying to me the most that

1206
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: I actually like what they're doing as well. And I

1207
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: was on that early in the spring. I was sharing

1208
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: that sentiment with you, like I that there are things here.

1209
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: You guys were You guys were premature in the first

1210
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: two years.

1211
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: You were wrong, and I'm right on that's incorrect. No,

1212
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: you guys are gassing them up for this series. Yeah,

1213
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: wait a minute, we were saying that they were. They

1214
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: were overachieving to some degree, like they.

1215
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: Won more games. That's writing history.

1216
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely not go listen to any of those episodes.

1217
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: And now in year three of the program, I actually

1218
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 2: think they can matter instead of this cute little game

1219
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: you guys have been playing with the Falcons for years.

1220
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 2: I can't do it anymore because you guys are guessing

1221
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: them up so much that I have to pull back.

1222
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: Okay, bring some sanity to the great you know, congratulations.

1223
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: The Saints are the favorites. They're actually a pretty big

1224
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 3: gap between them and the Falcons, and then a huge

1225
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: gap to the Panthers and then the Bucks or even

1226
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: for the break.

1227
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 4: I figured it so hard to bed no.

1228
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: No, I figured out why Dan has always let's handed

1229
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 3: the Falcon.

1230
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to hear this. It's going to be brilliant.

1231
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: Let me take you backical psychologist, you do, let me

1232
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: take you back to London. October twenty twenty one. A

1233
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 3: young Dan Hansis is on the sidelines watching this.

1234
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 8: Little boy, his little boy that will lead him, I hope,

1235
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 8: Zach Wilson. Oh yeah, we finally found their quarterback, Zach Wilson.

1236
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 8: And he's going up against a moreribun Falcons team who

1237
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 8: came into that game not look and he's on the

1238
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 8: side and there's these big, hulking men in this handsome

1239
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 8: young quarterback. Oh, this is the guy that's gonna finally

1240
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 8: lead us into the future. And you know, who comes

1241
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 8: out of that game with a big win, pretty convincing

1242
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 8: the Atlanta Falcons, and ever since then he's held it

1243
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 8: against them.

1244
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: How about you go find the tape of me being

1245
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: sold on Zach Wilson on this podcast.

1246
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: Well you had a t shirt about him, didn't you.

1247
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Zach is good or something.

1248
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: If you guys understand that I have a sense of humor,

1249
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: yes I did have that. Shit.

1250
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: We've really gotten under your skin in the last ten

1251
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: to twelve.

1252
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: You have you.

1253
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: I've been exceedingly patient.

1254
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: What if you bozos about the Falcons for years and

1255
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: I just can't do it anymore.

1256
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: Start the games.

1257
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: I love it. Start the games. Let's get to the

1258
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 4: NFC West.

1259
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: Wait.

1260
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: I think we all agree. I think we got one.

1261
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: Finally, the San Francisco forty nine ers. We're all in lockstewn.

1262
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: Man, Gregor, I thought you were gonna go Seattle.

1263
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 4: No, I already I don't know in my heart.

1264
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: Thirty votes NFL Media for the Niners, just two four votes.

1265
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: Excuse me for the Seattle Seahawks. I mean, yeah, you know,

1266
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: talk about trying too hard. The Niners just seem I

1267
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: want to I want Nick Bosa on the field. But

1268
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: even even with that up in the air, I feel

1269
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: confident about this one.

1270
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: Well, just the way that, like last year, these two

1271
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: teams mostly intact and similar to today, San Francisco just seemed

1272
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: to completely solve Seattle one.

1273
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: In the fact that the Rams are a totally unknown

1274
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: situation the Cardinals aren't even trying. It makes it then

1275
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: a Seahawks versus Niners, And who's gonna unless you're a

1276
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: Seahawks fan really feel like they're the better team right now?

1277
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: Right I think the Seahawks could be significantly more complete

1278
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: as a team, and they could even win more games.

1279
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 4: They won nine last year. I think they could win ten.

1280
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: Or eleven, and I still think that's not gonna be

1281
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: enough in this division.

1282
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 4: It's just a belief in the forty nine Ers. Is

1283
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 4: not a discounting of the Seahawks for me.

1284
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: All right, Let's look at our wild card picks, and

1285
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: yes I have the Cowboys winning the NFC East. But

1286
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean the Eagles are a flop this season.

1287
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: In fact, they think they're gonna be very good again,

1288
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: which means they're gonna get the first wild card.

1289
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 4: See, I didn't go there.

1290
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: I like to have my cake and I eat it too, Dan,

1291
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: So I'm still high on those Seahawks. I make them

1292
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: my number one NFC wild card team. And I see

1293
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: a nice little name next to me. Well, I'm used

1294
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: to it. I picked the Seahawks too, and I filed

1295
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: this before, Greg, so kissing corner. Well, I wouldn't know

1296
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: what you filed kissing corner, kissing cousins.

1297
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: What is it? The cousin kissing cousin?

1298
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: And West West and I both were pro Kirk cousins

1299
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: for a bit.

1300
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 2: Wild card too. I have the Seahawks, so I feel

1301
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: good about the Seahawks as well. Not in the class

1302
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: of the San Francisco forty nine ers, but you know,

1303
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: ten wins. What do you got, Greg?

1304
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: I mean, this is almost getting scary. I mentioned on

1305
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: our last show. Actually they were in the NFC at first.

1306
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: I left the Cowboys in the out of the playoffs.

1307
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: This is where the emails started coming back for I

1308
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: had him in.

1309
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 4: I had him in. I was just so stupid.

1310
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: I was trying to be too taky, like there's no

1311
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: reason not to believe that.

1312
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are going to Winboy games. Yeah, I got

1313
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys too.

1314
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 4: We have the exact same again, guys are basic.

1315
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: What do you mean? I mean, you're lockstep on everything.

1316
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 4: I mean.

1317
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, just as a weird I think we've figured

1318
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 3: out how sell you what like?

1319
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: So I should pick the Cowboys not in the playoffs.

1320
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 4: Give me here, we're going to disagree on this.

1321
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need you guys to disagree on something.

1322
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: I have the Falcons in the playoffs twice. Now, I

1323
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,959
Speaker 1: picked the Falcons as a wild card, and.

1324
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: That's true wild card three. I Uh, I surprised myself here.

1325
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: I did put the lines of the playoffs. I haven't

1326
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: a wild card.

1327
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a lot of agreement. They're not too

1328
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 3: many crazy teams here. But I'm putting the old Commandos.

1329
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: I kind of them mentioned it earlier.

1330
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 4: Rivera.

1331
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: I think that line, that defensive line. I think Howell's

1332
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: gonna be fun. I just think they're gonna have a

1333
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,479
Speaker 3: great spirit about them and find their way to ten wins.

1334
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: They managed to win seven or eight games with Rivera

1335
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: these last three years despite a lot of so I

1336
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: think they get that third wildcard spot.

1337
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 4: Keep his job.

1338
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't think that's crazy. I went giants.

1339
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: I guess one thing that this isn't the same level

1340
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: of annoyance as you feel about the Falcons, but this

1341
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: everyone just looking at last year's Giants season, and I

1342
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: get it, maybe inflated win total, they're no problem, but like,

1343
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: are they really well coached? They have some pieces? Have

1344
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: they added some pieces? Do they have a really defensive coordinator?

1345
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 4: I love?

1346
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: Do? I love Brian Dable? Like Giants? On my third

1347
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: te I'm glad you represented the German. Yeah, who's to

1348
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: say they can't be building off last year? Why does

1349
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: it have to be? You know, they they are cooked in.

1350
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones stinks that that's just negative talk.

1351
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: So there's there's so many teams that got multiple except

1352
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: so many teams including the g Man that got multiple

1353
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 3: votes for that last wildcard spart it was really split.

1354
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 3: But actually the team that got the most that would

1355
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 3: get the in theory consensus seventh spot was the Vikings

1356
01:01:59,240 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: among the voters.

1357
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: That's actually I thought what I had I had emailed

1358
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: in because I do have this weird feeling about the

1359
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: Vikings being better than people think, because everyone kind of

1360
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: like the Giants, and they were similar in that they

1361
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: were both kind of very fortunate in one score games

1362
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: in a way you don't usually see. But yeah, I

1363
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: think the Lions are better team, but probably this point.

1364
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: Saints got seven total points, Packers six Bears got four

1365
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: people voting for them for the last spot. And and yes,

1366
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: that RAMS employee mj D is one of two people

1367
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 3: to put.

1368
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 4: The Rams in.

1369
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: The Saints are the team that I had in multiple

1370
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: different versions of this and kept taking in and out,

1371
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 3: in and out, in and out.

1372
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: So do you have the Cowboys?

1373
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: I have the Saints out? None of us have the

1374
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 3: Saints in, and Saints Twitter is going to come.

1375
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 4: After us because there's.

1376
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: Check Twitter, So mind me in a different mailbox.

1377
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: So you have do you have the Cowboys in third

1378
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: place or last place?

1379
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 4: Second? Second?

1380
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: No, I had him at second my second wild Cars,

1381
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: they are the second one Commanders.

1382
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 4: Commanders are in the playoffs is third place?

1383
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: I mean I'm JD's vision here.

1384
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: Maybe some sort of mushroom vision comes to in the

1385
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: Rams or in the playoffs like that would be one

1386
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: of the weirder stories after this offset.

1387
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: Well it is.

1388
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,479
Speaker 3: It reminds me of the year coming off Baker's good

1389
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 3: year in Cleveland that there was like four Browns fans

1390
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 3: who all picked them to make the Super Bowl or

1391
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,959
Speaker 3: AFI Championship and you were one of them Joe's kitchens.

1392
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 4: Of them as well.

1393
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I won't make fun of that because we're not

1394
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: done with this episode yet. If you have the Cowboys,

1395
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: we gotta go the Eagles and the Commanders on the playoffs?

1396
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: What do you have the Giants at one? In sixteen

1397
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: two and fifteen Greg this year and it's almost like

1398
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: in a little bit of an agenda there a little.

1399
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 3: Bit I don't feel good about my Giants over under

1400
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 3: under that I put out there.

1401
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 4: I really don't.

1402
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 3: I regret it, and because I got bleeped out with

1403
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: my one of my other over unders.

1404
01:03:53,720 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 4: But guess what, Oh that's Greg Inner love.

1405
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: For go ahead?

1406
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: What is that the two of the best years of

1407
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: my life? Forty two is already happened, forty six is coming.

1408
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.

1409
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1410
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 4: Are we doing Super Bowl picks? Can I go to him?

1411
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: Because I know you have to bleep me out here

1412
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: with the Chargers over Under, but now we know we're

1413
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 3: going over because we're putting them in the Super Bowl.

1414
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 4: Let's go Bolts.

1415
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have them lose though to the I'm sticking

1416
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: with the Eagles, so the Eagles. I'm sticking with them,

1417
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 3: but they got they win over the Chargers and finally

1418
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: in the end, someone takes down Justin Herbert. But Eagles,

1419
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 3: Chargers two next gen quarterbacks on the biggest of stages

1420
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: in Vegas. Walker Rosenthal will be watching.

1421
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: Wow.

1422
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: Hopefully the Los Angeles Chargers in the Super Bowl.

1423
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 4: I think they're that talented. I think they are a

1424
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 4: top six story.

1425
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: That would be going from blowing a twenty seven to

1426
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: nothing wild card playoff lead, let's go and losing, Yes,

1427
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: having what many people believe to be a coach that's

1428
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: in and over his head, Yes, and then to turn

1429
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: it all around, let's go and.

1430
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: Go all the way to the team, like a way

1431
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: back when there was a team that had a magnificent

1432
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: regular season and we're completely upset and stunned by the

1433
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: Jaguars in the playoffs. The late nineties, Broncos, they came

1434
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: back around like Shanahan the next year, devastated Gunn and

1435
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl.

1436
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 4: Is he gonna do it? I've got a lock.

1437
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm not picking the Chargers to do anything close

1438
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: with those I'm just saying that would be no, that

1439
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: would no.

1440
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: The Broncos not going to this.

1441
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Broncos didn't get anywhere you want mine?

1442
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: I got the forty nine Ers.

1443
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: Okay, taking out the Chiefs. Mmmm, revenge. Finally Kyle Shanahan

1444
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: gets it. It's gonna be brock Purty. He's gonna go

1445
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: wire to wire. They're gonna have a seventy seven yard

1446
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: pick six of Mahomes with seconds to go the fourth

1447
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: quarter and win the game of it.

1448
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 3: Wow, you got when you get that specific it is,

1449
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: it is sort of lost to history. I feel like

1450
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 3: somewhat the Chiefs were down ten points in the fourth quarter,

1451
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 3: not just.

1452
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 4: Down ten points, there were down ten points to the

1453
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 4: Eagles too.

1454
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: At halftime. They have Jimmy g has an open man downfield,

1455
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:15,479
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sanders fourth quarter. If he hits the pass, it's

1456
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: ova Johnny. I mean it is over twenty four to

1457
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 2: twenty and he misses him and leaves the door open

1458
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: for the great Mahomes, who wasn't even having that great

1459
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: game at that point.

1460
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: All right, forty nine Ers finally get it done. That

1461
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: would be really well in my fantasy world. Impressive after

1462
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: being to the NFC Championship Game what three out of

1463
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 3: the last four years, and to keep coming back.

1464
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 4: That is an incredible organization. When you keep getting back, you.

1465
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: Know someone's voice I haven't heard in a while, and

1466
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: I miss him, and I hope everything was cool, because

1467
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 2: I thought he would be at the Hall of Fame

1468
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: where two Jet greats we went in were inducted, and

1469
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: then they played the Hall of Fame game against the Browns,

1470
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: and then I thought we'd see him on heart knocks.

1471
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: But we did not see him on hard knocks. Let's

1472
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: let's hear from Joe Namath.

1473
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 7: I think we got to ankle a shot of winning

1474
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 7: and meet anybody in the world, and I think we're

1475
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 7: gonna win next Sunday. Yes, name of it is on

1476
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 7: the hot seat. Most of the pressure is on him.

1477
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 7: He has said that the Jets are going to win.

1478
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 7: He doesn't even predict him. He said, I guarantee a

1479
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 7: Jet victory. Attitude is a whole lot in life, and

1480
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 7: I had a terrific attitude about that game.

1481
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna win. I have that attitude. I

1482
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: feel that way, and it's not over confidence.

1483
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 6: They has football sense talking about guaranteeing we're gonna win.

1484
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. That's the way we felt. That's the

1485
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: way we felt fifty five years this January, Joe Name,

1486
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: it is guaranteed Super Bowl three over the heavily favored

1487
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: Baltimore Colts, sixteen to seven win altered Pro football forever.

1488
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: I've got news for you. We're gonna win the game.

1489
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: I guarantee. It was his quote by the pool. A

1490
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: young Brent Musburger was there sure, amongst other reporters, Aaron

1491
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 2: Rodgers in twenty twenty four. Same these now that wouldn't

1492
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: be as impactful.

1493
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:21,919
Speaker 4: Samezas.

1494
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, it's the quote Aaron. Let's actually we'll

1495
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: get an edit on that. He's too well spoken for that.

1496
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: It's I said on the Hard Knocks podcast, it's time.

1497
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: It's been time, and so many things have to happen

1498
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: to fall into place, but it does for so many

1499
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: other teams. The Chiefs waited forever, the Eagles waited forever,

1500
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 2: and it happened for them. Now it's time for the

1501
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: Jets to end. They're tortured half century drought. Get back

1502
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. And if you're gonna go to

1503
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, winn thing. You can't get to the

1504
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 2: super Bowl and not win, and I think they will.

1505
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: The guy who is the guy the on Hard Knocks.

1506
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,879
Speaker 2: He was like the guy that looked into the future

1507
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: and he predicted the mentalists predicted Jets thirty one, forty nine,

1508
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: Ers twenty one. That works for me. We back baby,

1509
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: Jets finally win the Super Bowl and Aaron Rodgers was

1510
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: a legend to rival any New York hero that's ever lived.

1511
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: Why not us? And he's out dan setting himself up.

1512
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: Oh damn blah blah blah. Often I always thought if

1513
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 2: I ever got to the Super Bowl as a fan,

1514
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: not just winning the game, I've always and we've been

1515
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: up close for years, that fun that two week break

1516
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: between the games and all the fans have flood into

1517
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 2: the city. That's part of the glory as well, Like

1518
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: that build up to that game. I just want to

1519
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: experience that once. Even this offseason when Rogers got there

1520
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: at the end of April, like people are saying, like

1521
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: Jets fans are getting in over their skis and getting

1522
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: so excited. That's okay, Like we've been able to enjoy

1523
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 2: this summer and express hope and optimism. But that's all

1524
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,839
Speaker 2: in the past now now we need to see results,

1525
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: and man, the logic checks out. Now, we just need

1526
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: it to happen.

1527
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, why do you do all this if you

1528
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 1: don't have those two weeks, If you don't have that moment.

1529
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: Patriots fans have had it multiple times to the point

1530
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: where it's like it all becomes almost normalized on some level.

1531
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for you, Greg, but like for a

1532
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: Jets fan, it isn't even just you haven't been there.

1533
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: You've been a laughing stock. You know, you have to

1534
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: defend your team in our newsroom all the time. Out

1535
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: at taverns and bars, when people find out you're a

1536
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: Jets fan, they giggle at you behind your back, like

1537
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: this would happen all behind my back, right in front

1538
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: of your face. But I actually think, after all we've

1539
01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: been throwing the show too. You've done it could have

1540
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: been hyper annoying about the Jets draining all this.

1541
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: I don't think you have been.

1542
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: I think you've have been kind of stoic about it.

1543
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: It's like that would be a pretty incredible sports journey,

1544
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 1: and I think the most winding, bizarre, unbelievable NFL taiale

1545
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: that I could have, I could imagine. So I would

1546
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: love to see it your your dad, I mean, give

1547
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 1: me a break. Think about not just your sons, because

1548
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: they have a long, long time to see what happens

1549
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Like your dad has been waiting and waiting.

1550
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: I hope he'd be your guest at that game. I'm

1551
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: pretty sure he would.

1552
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: Oh you know, he would be. Yes.

1553
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: Stoic would not be the word I would use to

1554
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 3: describe Dan's fandom of the Jets.

1555
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 4: And I love him.

1556
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, these couple months, you haven't been, you know,

1557
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: going nuts and.

1558
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 2: Defensive sure, yeah, I don't know that. It's there's so

1559
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: many outcomes that work against this happening that makes sense

1560
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: as well.

1561
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 3: It's one little fun subplot of this season because I'm

1562
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: looking back there at our producer Eric Roberts with his

1563
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 3: Bill's head on. Is that a Bill's head yep? Old

1564
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 3: school Bills hat? And I'm thinking how many of these

1565
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: teams in the AFC feel just like those Jets fans.

1566
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 3: If you look at who have the best quarterbacks, long

1567
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 3: tortured fan base waiting for their title. The Buffalo Bills,

1568
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: a long tortured fan base with a great quarterback. The

1569
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals, who are just there, uh, not a great franchise,

1570
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 3: but a tortured fan base with great quarterbacks the Los

1571
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers, who I have in the Super Bowl, Like,

1572
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 3: there are a lot.

1573
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: Of waiting a long time.

1574
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: They have had a rough road.

1575
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 3: A lot of great possible stories with great, great players

1576
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 3: leading them in the AFC, there's got to be a

1577
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 3: lot of disappointment. But that's why we're bored of the Chiefs.

1578
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 3: We got to get someone else.

1579
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: And what's what's a little bit annoying is Browns fans

1580
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 2: like and that's what complicates their situation. Yeah, is that

1581
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: that's the one fan base that feels like it. You

1582
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: can't really feel the same way for But they made

1583
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: their bed and they picked their quarterback to try to

1584
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: get over the hump, but complicated their situation. That would

1585
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 2: be a very different two weeks. I think you're right,

1586
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 2: all right, we got everything.

1587
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, we famously think we're read show. It's

1588
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 3: going to be about twenty minutes shorter. So Mark apologized.

1589
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 3: Children who are waiting note on the street corners right now,

1590
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 3: I play.

1591
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: Them this episode in full.

1592
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm an absolute professional and re arrange some plans while okay,

1593
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,520
Speaker 1: while we were doing the show, I haven't had absolute.

1594
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,879
Speaker 4: Blas Really, Yes, he's like Colton.

1595
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 3: Remember that day I told you I taught you how

1596
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 3: to drive in case of emergency, Just use that legacy.

1597
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 4: I don't know how exactly was.

1598
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: Leg extenders. All right, we are done for today, but

1599
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: just starting off a huge week. As we steam towards

1600
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: the Thursday night opener between the Chiefs and the Lines,

1601
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: we could finally stop talking about what's to come and

1602
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 2: experience it all until.

1603
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 3: I got the Hard Knocks recap finale tomorrow.

1604
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 2: Think Wednesday's show after that, then the preview. That's all happening.

1605
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: Heed the call.