1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: and seventy. Today in the show, we are discussing the 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: trials and tribulations of public land deer hunting. Some things 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: not to do, some things to do, and some lessons 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: learned from our Idaho public land white to hunt. All right, 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, brought to you 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: by on X. Today in the show, we are talking 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: public land deer hunting. We're talking about the trials and 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: tribulations of public land deer hunting and to discuss that, 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: to discuss some of the challenges of those types of hunts, 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: We're going to use the story of the recent hunt 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: that Josh further Hilliard and I have been on and 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: are still on to a degree as we speak. Um, 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: I want to talk through some things like dealing with 18 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: hunting pressure, dealing with the random adversity that comes along 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: with traveling to hunt, and hunting new places. I want 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: to talk about the challenges of hunting new ground. I 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: want to talk about things like how to set proper 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: standards and goals for public land hunts. All that kind 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: of stuff is has been on my mind over the 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: last week or so, and I'm sure it will be 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: on my mind again on future public land hunts. And 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's something you can learn from every trip, 27 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: and this trip has had a lot of learning experiences. 28 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: I think. So we're gonna talk about our d I 29 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: y public land Idaho white to hunt, but I also think, 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, we'll be able to throw back to some 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: of the other trips I've been on and that Josh 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: has been over the past years. We've been I don't know, 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 1: just in the past few years. We've hunted some public 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: lan in North Dakota, Minnesota, Montana, Michigan, UM Nebraska. So 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: there's a few other players. There's something else I'm missing 36 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: from a recent hunt. But but yeah, we've got some 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: different experiences we can pull from here. UM. But let's 38 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: start just with the store of this trip and we'll 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: kind of take it from there. We'll run through some 40 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: of these key learnings, will run through some lessons, we'll 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: run through some challenges, UM, and we'll tell the story, 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: and the story picks back up where we left off 43 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: last week. For those who didn't listen to last week's podcast, 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: which was ten Steps to your Best Deer hunting Season Ever. UM, 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: we kind of teased that we had just finished our 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: first night of the hunt, and that first night was 47 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: a banger. That was a good night. You saw a 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: whole bunch of deer, a whole lot of deer, You 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: saw some shooter bucks. We praised the power of the 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: first set which we enjoyed that night, and you said 51 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: that you had nine probability that you were going to 52 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: kill a big giant buck the next day. I'm not 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: sure I said it was that it was high, but 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: I think that was without giving away too much, I 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: think that was the beginning of the end as soon 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: as you asked that question there for you at least. UM, 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: So let's let's walk it through. Let's I guess I'm 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: gonna take a step back just again to rehash stuff 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: very quickly for people that hadn't heard. This is a hunt, 60 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: that it was in a brand new area. All we 61 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: had done leading up to this is a little bit 62 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: of summer scouting. When I was out west Um in July, 63 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: I was able to do some drive bys. I did 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: a lot of map scouting, and then I had a 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: day day and a half where I was able to 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: drive and check out some of these places, basically driving 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: past them, getting eyes on him, hopping out, doing a 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: quick walk about, just trying to con arm a few things. Um, 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: see if there's actually crops on the neighboring fields, see 70 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: what the access looks like, all that. So I was 71 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: able to do that, and through that scouting work I 72 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: pinpointed um about four different places that I thought had 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: good potential. One that I was the most excited about 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: because it had river bottom cover and had private land 75 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: adjacent to it with crop fields, and that's where we 76 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: started the first night. We pushed in that first night 77 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: and set up you and that observation stand. I went 78 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: a little back further back in the cover to see 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: what was going on back there, and you saw a 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: ton of deer, including a number of nice bucks. And 81 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: I saw a decent number of deer and passed on 82 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: a two year old eight pointer and some other young guns. Um. 83 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: But we felt pretty good about things. So the next 84 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: day the plan was to take those observations and adjust. 85 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: So in my case, I had seen deer but I 86 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: hadn't seen the quality dere I wanted, But you had 87 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: seen a bunch of bucks come out. Basically, there's this 88 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 1: elf alpha field you were hunting right, and you saw 89 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: some that came out on the west side, which is 90 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: where you were hunting near, and then you saw another 91 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: pretty substantial number of deer that came more to the 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: east side. So I thought, all right, I'm going to 93 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: sneak in the back and hunt somewhere on the back 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: side of Again, we can't hunt the elf alpha field, 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: we're hunting the thick stuff behind it. But I wanted 96 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: to try to get back into that thick stuff to 97 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: maybe intercept more of those bucks that were coming hitting 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: the east side of that. So I slipped in there 99 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: and pushed back another hundred and fifty yards. Are so 100 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: farther east than when I went where I was the 101 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: first night, and my hopes here were just too slip 102 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: in there a little bit further, hoping to intercept whatever 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: that line of travel was um. But also I was 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: scouting my way in so as I'm I'm working my way, 105 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: and I got past where he hunted the night before. 106 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: I got to a creek, and this creek had just 107 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: like cow path mode trails um not mode literally, but 108 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: just like plowed down with deer traffic on either side 109 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: parallel in the creek. And then two different trails criss 110 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: crossed crossing it right there. And I saw this and 111 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: it was definitely the greatest concentration I had seen to 112 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: that point of travel. And then I saw some beds 113 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: that had been used previously. We're all off on this 114 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: grassy point on the knob of the creek um And 115 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: then I could see way down the creek bed to 116 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: my west, like three yards or so. It was like 117 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: this big, you know, creek opening that you could see 118 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: a long ways and nice thought, Man, this is a 119 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: great concentration of movement, and I would be able to 120 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: see all the way down this creek, and if if 121 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: something doesn't come by right here for a shot tonight, 122 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I can at least see where they're crossing this creek 123 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: and make an adjustment for the next day. And this 124 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: is a big part of at least from my public 125 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: land experiences, when you're hunting new ground like this, something 126 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: that is, if the terrain allows it and the habitat 127 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: allows it. I often, at least early in the hunt, 128 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to set up in places where you can 129 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: learn something for the next hunt. So I want to 130 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: have a good view at least early on when you're 131 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: trying to learn these places. I need that observation stand 132 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to be able to learn, because you can only 133 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: learn so much from your off season scouting, and in 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: this case, I had very little offseason scouting. So basically 135 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: it's learning as you go. And I wanted to see 136 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: these crosses. Now you're way back and cover, but it's 137 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: just this little line of sight, way back in the 138 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: thick stuff. So as I you know, I got set 139 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: up in the tree. I will tell you one thing 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: that I've been very happy with as far as this trip, 141 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: and something that I think is important for you know, 142 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: my future public plan hunting, and and something I think 143 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, for most people listening. One of the things 144 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to build do was be more more wol 145 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: than ever, being able to adapt and move as often 146 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: as you need to and do it quickly, quietly, um efficiently. 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: And I will tell you one thing that I think 148 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: I've done better than ever before is that I've not 149 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: been as mobile, uh in the past, as I have 150 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: been this chart. I mean almost every night. I've been 151 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: moving to new places, and I feel like my process 152 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: is way better than it's ever been. I'm able to 153 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: go up in one one trip. Um, you know I've 154 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the way I do it now. And I also tell 155 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: you my my equipment has been improving over the last 156 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: couple of years now to where I'm really happy with 157 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: the system I have. So as you know, Josh, I'll 158 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: run through this for for people that might be interested 159 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: in setting up something like this themselves. Um, we're both 160 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: using saddles. I'm running the Tethered Phantom saddle and using 161 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: the Predator platform. So when I get to my tree, 162 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: I put on my kneepads, I'm wearing my saddle. Um, 163 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: I have a little it's just a little I don't 164 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: know how you describe it, not a pack, but it's 165 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: a little holding case for the platform that Tethered makes 166 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: that's clipped to the side of my backpack. I have 167 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: three climbing sticks and these that I've been using this 168 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: year are from a company called timber Ninja. And I 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: gotta tell you and I you know this, Josh, I'm 170 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: not big on talking about products all the time, right, 171 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: I hate I mean, we got to add sometimes, but 172 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't like to be like I would have never 173 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: kill this book if it wasn't for my blank blank blank. UM. 174 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: So I avoid talking about products as much as possible 175 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: because I hate that kind of thing. But I'm going 176 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: to give a huge plug to these guys because I 177 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: have been floored by these climbing sticks. These timber Ninja 178 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: carbon climbing sticks are nuts. Yeah, they're pretty, they're pretty slick. 179 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: They're not. I mean, there there's no metal on them. 180 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: There's no metal, so there's no sound, there's no clanking, 181 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: there's know weight. I mean you can hold all three 182 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: sticks like an empty water bottle, like analogene. It's stupid. 183 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: They're super light. Um. I've just been so so so pleased. Um, 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I just hate all the metal sounds on metal climbing sticks. 185 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: Even if you tape your buckles, they're still just too 186 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: many little pieces and parts that could possibly make noise. 187 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: You have none of them. These things lock onto the 188 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: tree really nice. What I've done is I've used the 189 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: tethered versus straps, which is like a like a daisy 190 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: chain style, Um, what would you call it? Strap strap? 191 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: I guess that again has no metal on it, So 192 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: you just wrap the strap around the tree and then 193 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: you pick the loop, and then you put that loop 194 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: on the little button on the back on the front 195 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: side of the stick sent you down the tree. I 196 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: also have one of these sticks with a built in eight, 197 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: so it has like a cable that slides out the 198 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: bottom of the stick, which essentially adds a another excuse me, 199 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: it adds another step to the bottom of that stick. 200 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: So what I'm doing is I'm getting to my tree, 201 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: I am taking my sticks off my pack. I am 202 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: slapping that first stick up, but I'm putting it very 203 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: high on the tree because I can have that eight 204 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: or that slips out from beneath it. Two. So I 205 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: stick the first one on there attach it. I then 206 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: have a m oh, what do you call it? Um 207 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: my bow rope. It's a retractable retractable yes, a retractable 208 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: bow rope things. So I clipped that into my pocket. 209 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: I attached that to my bowl on the ground, and 210 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: then I take my other two sticks and I attached 211 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: them to little gear ties like those night Eyes gear 212 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: ties on that are attached to either side of my saddle. 213 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: So I've got to stick on my left hip stick 214 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: on my right hip, my backpacks on my back. The 215 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: platform is clipped to the backpack. I climb with that 216 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: first step. I'm using my lineman's belt, and I just 217 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: climb up that first one. I got my lineman's belt. 218 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: I can lean back, grab the second stick off my hip, 219 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: Slap that one up, shimming up that one. Grab the 220 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: left one off, stick that one up. Grab the platform 221 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: off the back of my backpack. Stick that up step 222 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: into the tree. Attached my tether. I'm clipped in. I'm 223 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: good to go. And my model this whole week. When 224 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: it comes to everything, but especially like setting up my 225 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: saddle stands and all this kind of stuff, it is 226 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: um slowest smooth and smooth is fast. I just said 227 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: that over and over and over UM. And I've tried to, like, 228 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: in general, you know, I'm always in a rush. I'm 229 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: always like feel like I'm always running late or I 230 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: want to get somewhere faster. I need to get this 231 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: thing done, um. And so I'm always stressing out in 232 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: the woods about that. But I've just tried to be 233 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: smooth with things, and when it comes to my setup process, 234 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: that has really helped, I think. And so if there's 235 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: anything I have done good on this trip. It's been 236 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: getting up, setting up quietly and not always like super 237 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: crazy fast, but just one smooth um process. And that's 238 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: something I think can be helpful on Yeah, all sorts 239 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: of public lan huts in the future. That is all 240 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: to say that I quietly and efficiently got set up 241 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: on the down wind side of this creek, within range 242 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: of the crossings and the two parallel trails, and with 243 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: a view down the whole creek bed. And I saw 244 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of deer. Um, some young bucks came through, 245 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: some young bucks crossed way down the creek bed. A 246 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: bunch of doughs came by me. But long story short, 247 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: and that night did not see any shooter bucks. I 248 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: slipped out and met you back in the truck, and 249 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: what did you see? How'd your neck go? What were 250 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: you doing? Yeah? I did something similar. I kind of 251 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: pushed back further into the north, into the thick stuff, um, 252 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: trying to intercept these bucks that I had saw the 253 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: night before coming to the LFLFA field. And so I 254 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: got back in there. Um. And then it was a 255 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: slow night. I think, I said, I'm trying to remember. 256 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: I think I saw a few deer that night, maybe 257 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: a dough and a couple of bonds, and and maybe 258 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: a year a half old buck um. I did see 259 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: one decent buck um come through early. I don't remember 260 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: if I told you about this, but he came through early, 261 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: maybe fifty seventy five yards to my west. Um. But 262 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: other than that, it was a pretty quiet night. And 263 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: that was the night I had high, high expectations for 264 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: and and unfortunately it didn't all come together that night. 265 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: But um, yeah it was. It was not what it 266 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: was like, not what I was expecting to see that night. 267 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I was hoping for a little bit better, better night. 268 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: So we had that hunt had happened the day after 269 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: we recorded last week's podcast, and last week one of 270 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: the things we talked about was the importance of asking why. 271 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: When you have a night like that, you need to 272 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: try to think, Okay, why did that happen? Let's just 273 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: not assume well just didn't work out? UM, Let's dissect 274 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: some possible things and maybe there's something you can adjust 275 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: based off of um a guess or an assumption or 276 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: some some kind of slip with work here. So what 277 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: were some of the things that you think that could 278 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: have led to a better night or that led to 279 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: you having not such a good night. Yeah, I think, Um, 280 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: I think I needed to be further trying to think 281 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: about this, I think I needed to be further to 282 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: my north and to my west is where I needed 283 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: to be. Um, you know, I think once I kind 284 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: of got set up, I was like, yeah, I wasn't 285 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: thrilled with what I saw, Like it looked good. Down 286 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: on the ground. There's a bunch of trails kind of 287 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: all funneling down to where I think a lot of 288 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: these deer were entering the lf alfa field. They're kind 289 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: of like looped around, and then there was some fences 290 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: and some gates and things like that that I thought 291 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: they were going around then to get in the field. Um, 292 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: but I think these deer we're staying further to my west, 293 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: and I just didn't get over far enough. And my 294 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: guess is where that one buck came through real quick 295 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: is is closer to where I needed to be, which 296 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: is a reason that I went towards that way the 297 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: next night. Um, we gotta we gotta add something else though. 298 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: What we didn't mention the front, which was that when 299 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: we got to the park area, there were two others. 300 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: That's right. That was at night and it looked like hunters. Um. 301 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: One truck had a bowcase in it. Um, the other 302 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: one didn't. But didn't you say, like a dear, dear, 303 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: there's a deer cart in one of them. Um. Yeah, 304 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: so assuming other guys back in there, So that was 305 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: the That was The other big thing is like we 306 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: we never saw those people come past us, but they 307 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: could have been farther to the north of us, and 308 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: they could have been farther to the west of us. 309 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: And with the wind direction we had there, if they 310 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: had been west of you, their wind could have been 311 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: blowing back across where you were hoping those deer would 312 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: have come. And that could have been a reason why 313 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: the same thing too. Ye gosh, all these nights are 314 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: starting to run together and like one thing after another. 315 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that night, wasn't it. There was 316 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: two trucks there in the parking lot, and yeah, I'm 317 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm kind of guessing that could have been what what 318 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: the issue was there? The thing about the spot though, 319 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: was is it was hard to gauge what you're dealing with, 320 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: especial early on, and we didn't know as much because 321 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: there was also fish people were going to fish from 322 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: this place too, so you'd see these trucks and you're thinking, well, 323 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: are they fishing? Are they hunting? Uh? I don't know. Now. 324 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: One of the things that I always try to do 325 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: when I'm hunting public land, especially if we think there's 326 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: other people, as you try to get away from other people, right, 327 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: And in this case, we were walking a closed road 328 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: that you couldn't drive on at all, almost a mile 329 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: all the way back, um. And then you were hunting 330 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: a little bit off that, and then I was hunting 331 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: way off that. So I thought we would have gotten 332 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: away from most competition. And it seems like most people 333 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: didn't go all the way back there. Um. But fast 334 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: forward to the next day. Now again we wanted to 335 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: make an adjustment, so I again wanted to push what 336 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: did we want to do? I was going to push 337 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: back further the next day, um, because with the possibility 338 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: of oh this was the adversity day of several um. Okay, 339 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: so we had had that night. Things didn't go as 340 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: what we wanted. So I had seen on the maps 341 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: several other fields I was assuming and I thought had 342 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: been alfalfa further to the east of this location a 343 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: much longer walk. You'd have to walk that closed road 344 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: and then jump back into the cover and then walk 345 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: the edge, you know, another mile or so to get 346 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: back to these secluded fields. But my thought was, no 347 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: one's going to go that far back. I mean, it's 348 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: two miles back from the parking area, very far from 349 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: any other access points. And if that is a secluded 350 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: alf alfa field out there, that's going to be money. Josh, 351 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: you're and I'll let you tell your side of the 352 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: story here, But at a high level, your thought was, well, 353 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: let me take one more stab with these deer that 354 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: I saw and make one more adjustment. Maybe it was 355 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: a fluke last night, and it just wasn't quite in 356 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: the right spot right yep, basically, And I was actually 357 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna sit a little closer to the two track this time, 358 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: but but further the west, and it was a little 359 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: bit more open in there, um where I could see 360 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: exactly maybe where they were coming through, um, just to 361 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: have some better site lines, and and then you know, 362 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: the deer they were moving earlier at that point in 363 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: the trip. Um, So I was hoping that if I 364 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: didn't push in as far, i'd be able to see 365 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: a little bit more again almost like a like another 366 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: secondary observation sit almost but also be in the game 367 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: there um with where I was. And and I want 368 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: to reiterate one of the things that that I'm always 369 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: trying to do on these hunts is is you keep 370 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: adjusting until you've got it figured out. Very rarely what 371 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: I ever said, just stick it out in the Saints 372 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: about over and over. It's just like you see what 373 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: you learn something from that day, whether it be when 374 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: you're scouting on your way in or something you saw 375 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: or something on trail camera, whatever it is, and then adjust, adjust, adjust, um. 376 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: And so in this case, we were just trying to 377 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: You were making micro adjustments because you you were in 378 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: a spot where so many deer had come through that 379 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: seemed like, you know, barring some kind of hunting pressure disaster, 380 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: that you would hopefully get a chance. I, on the 381 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: other hand, was trying to find this secondary spot since 382 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: I didn't want to crowd on your stuff too much. Um, 383 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: So I was going to make a bigger adjustment to 384 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: try to get to this really far away secluded field 385 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: that in my head, I thought, Man, if you get 386 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: in that and this is there's a there was the 387 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: flfa field in the private land that you were hunting near, 388 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: and then there's a standing corn field next to that, 389 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: and then what looked to be enough alfa field tucked 390 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: in behind that, and I just thought to myself, man, 391 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: that's way back in there. I gotta believe if so 392 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: many deer were coming to this one that you were 393 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: hunting near, that there's probably a bunch going to this 394 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: other one. And if I could slip in there, man, 395 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: that could be money. So we hike in. We hiked 396 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: the mile back on the closed road. We get to 397 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: the end of the road where you're about to jump 398 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: in and try to find a place, and there's two 399 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: hunters standing there on the road and two uh two 400 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: guys too young guys who are going to hunt right 401 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: there in the edge. And they had access to this 402 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: from the private land, so they didn't have to come 403 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: all that way in. They just popped in through the 404 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: private land and we're hunting the edge there. Um, which 405 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: ended up being something that we had to deal with 406 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: a lot more throughout the trip. Even though I thought 407 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: we were getting so far away from other hunters, because 408 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: we were going so far um from the public access, 409 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, when there's In the case of a lot 410 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: of the places we hunted, they were long and skinny. 411 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: So if you came in from the public, you had 412 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: a long walk to get this stuff. You came on private, 413 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: it could be a much shorter walk. And I'll tell 414 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: you there was just a lot more hunting pressure in 415 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, for a Western white tail hunt than I've 416 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: ever had before. Um I've never encountered so many Western 417 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: white tail hunters. Um. So I don't know what's going 418 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: on in Idao, but you guys need to pick up 419 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: elk hunting or mule deer hunting or antelop hunting. You've 420 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: got these mountains full of critters. Get out there. Leave 421 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: the white tails alone. White tails are boring, there's small Uh, 422 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: they're like rats. Just ignore them. That's my recommendation. But 423 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, so I forgot to mention another thing happened 424 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: this night before we even got there. We got a 425 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: flat tire. Yeah. So we're pulled off at a little 426 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: access point. We're doing some work midday and when we 427 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: got back into the truck, realized with the flat tire, 428 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: so we had to we fixed the flat tire, but 429 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: that made us late for everything. So we were running 430 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: late to get to the hunting spot after fixing the tire, 431 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: and then we got there, got all the way back. 432 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: Then there's these two hunters. Then I leave you. You 433 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: go get set up. I start hiking. I slip in there, 434 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to be quiet, and this stuff is 435 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: just like thicker than just I just gnarrowly nasty stuff. 436 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to slip through there quietly and just 437 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: slowly taking my time. But it took a very long time. 438 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: I finally get all the way around this chunk of 439 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: private I have to I have to walk this this 440 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: public job. I go around this chunk that kind of 441 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: goes into the public land. Way around, I'm added like 442 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: another mile to my hike. I get around to the 443 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: other side to where this secluded alf alfa fields supposed 444 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: to be, and it is standing corn. So I'm looking 445 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: at this and it's, you know, September four or fifth 446 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: or whatever it was. There's third, I don't remember, but 447 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: early September, and there's green alfalfa fields around here, I know. 448 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: And I just historically from what I've seen, these deer 449 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: and not going to key in on corn until it 450 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: drives down until in October or something. Um, maybe they'll 451 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, you nit along a little bit, but I 452 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be nearly as attractive as those 453 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: up green alf alfa fields. So my thought was, Man, 454 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: this is not gonna be the spot to be. There's 455 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: another field I can see, an onyx that is even 456 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: further to the east, and I think, well, I've already 457 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: gone this fire, might as well go another half mile 458 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: to get to this next one. Maybe that would be 459 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: the honey hoole. So I keep hiking, keep hiking, and 460 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: there's so many like stickers and burrs and prickers and crap, 461 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: like my pants and boots and everything are just covered 462 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: and stuff. I get all the way to this next field, 463 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: and first off, it is not a greenolf off the field, 464 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: it's like a cut hay field. It's just just dry 465 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: brown um straw. And then there's a truck parked there 466 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: on the private land. But it's like next to there, 467 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: there's some cattle in a little corral, and then there's 468 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: a truck parked next to that. And so I'm sitting 469 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: there thinking, man, is this a hunter or is this 470 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: just an old farm truck that's just sitting back here 471 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: by the cows. Uh does this mean there's a farmer 472 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: back in here doing something or does he just leave 473 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: his truck here? And so I'm sitting here trying to 474 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: think through all this crap, and I'm frustrated. And now 475 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: We've been late in the first place, and then I've 476 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: been hiking for like an hour or and a half 477 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: or something, so now it's down to maybe an hour 478 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: of daylight or day light. So finally decided, screw it, 479 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna move back, pop up in a stand 480 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: here and just watch the edge of the standing corner 481 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: field and this little kind of staging air back behind it, 482 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 1: and a little bit of this straw field, and you know, 483 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: I might as well just try to get in a 484 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: tree and see something. For all this time I just 485 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: spent walking out here, and long story short, I didn't 486 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: see any deer around me at all, zero deer. I 487 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: did see some deer come out into that hayfield way 488 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: off like five yards away, uh, in in a nice buck, 489 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: like a shooter buck, the first for sure shooter buck 490 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: that I saw the trip. And he came out and 491 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: his he had velvet peeling, so it's like dangling off 492 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: his anilers very cool. He comes out and another buck 493 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: that was like a borderline kind of deer, and a 494 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: couple other little ones and they're out there feeding and 495 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: they're moving in my direction. The big buck. Every once, 496 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: I would look at the tree line that was like 497 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: in between me and him. So I've got a standing 498 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: cornfield and then there's a little tree line, and then 499 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: there's the field he's in, and he he would stop, 500 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: and he was kind of staring at that tree line, 501 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: and it was kind of like h staring in my 502 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: general direction, but I knew there was he wasn't staring, 503 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: and he was so so so far away, and the 504 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: wind wasn't blown that way at all. So I kept wondering, 505 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: is there another deer? There is there someone there? What's 506 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: going on? But the evening progresses and it gets the 507 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: last like ten minutes of daylight, and then I hear 508 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: just don't jump jump crank crank clank clank, and a 509 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: truck starts driving down the edge of that field, just 510 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: barreling down the edge of the field and just drives 511 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: like a bat out of hell all the way down 512 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: the field past the deer, like within like a hundred 513 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: yards or yards something of those deer driving past them 514 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: all the way down to the end of the field, 515 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: and I can hear the truck stop. I hear doors 516 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: open and close, and then nothing, and then those deer 517 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: eventually run off. So there go the deer, and someone 518 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: had driven in here. And now I'm wondering, Okay, what 519 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: were these people doing? Um is that the farmer? I 520 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: don't know. So the rest of the night passes another 521 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: ten minutes, it's just about dark. I'm packing up, and 522 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: then I hear crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, And I looked 523 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: down the kind of opening where I'm at the little 524 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: trail I was near, and here comes a guy. And 525 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the guy and he's wearing like a 526 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: white jacket and it's like not what I would expect 527 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: a hunt to be wearing, but he's wearing a white jacket. 528 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: It's like ripped up, and he's walking right at me, 529 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: and he's holding his bow and his arrow is knocked 530 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: and he's like clipped on, walking with his bow like this, 531 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: and it's like the end of the night and like 532 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: charging at me, like moving very quickly right at me, 533 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, what is this guy doing and how 534 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: does he not see me. He ended up walking literally 535 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: within like two yards of my tree, right underneath me, 536 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: and I just I don't know. It just was a 537 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of weird situation, and the guy was a little different, 538 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not going to bring any 539 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: attention to myself. I'm gonna let this guy just go. 540 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing. I don't know if 541 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: he had been hunting that edge and was going into 542 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: the private land to get to his truck somewhere else, 543 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: or if he was I don't I don't know. I 544 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: don't know, but I didn't wanna have anything to do 545 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: with it. Probably a good idea to not say anything 546 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: and it so he walked on by, and I'm frazzled 547 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: and frustrated. And then I go to get my head 548 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: lamp to start packing stuff up, and I've realized that 549 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: in all the casts earlier in the day, I forgot 550 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: my headlamp, so I know, I head lamp. I've got 551 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: like a psycho killer that's walking past my tree stand 552 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: and and now I've got to do more than two 553 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: miles back in the dark through this hell hole brush. 554 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: And to make this fast, I had a horrible hike back. 555 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: I had to use my cell phone flashlight and a 556 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: little tiny light that's on the quiver of my bow. 557 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: Neither of them worked terribly well on the situation. I 558 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: fell down a lot, I got bruised up, I covered 559 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: and burrs again, and by the time I got to 560 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: the truck, I realized that I lost two of my 561 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: arrows out of my quiver too. So that was my night. Um, 562 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: that was my adversity day. You I had. What happened. 563 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: I ended up going further back in than what I 564 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: originally wanted to. Um. I was maybe I had moved 565 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: maybe fifty to seventy five yards from where I was 566 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: sitting the night before, I think, and maybe i'd catch 567 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: one of those bucks coming through again. I decided to 568 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: go back in further because that um that other hunter 569 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: was was basically going to blow all his wind right 570 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: back to where I wanted to sit. So I was 571 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: trying to kind of get back and around from him 572 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: to not deal with any of that. And I saw 573 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: a few small bucks at night and a couple of dos, 574 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: but but um not the not the deer I was 575 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: looking for that night again. So here's here's one of 576 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: the things that I think needs to be thought about. 577 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: And it comes to hunting public land, especially if you're 578 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: doing something like this where you're going to brand new ground, 579 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: it is really helpful. I wish that I had had 580 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: more time this summer to go and scout this out 581 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: on foot, so that I would have known what each 582 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: field had. So what I've said, I would have known, 583 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: you know a little bit more about the habitat features. 584 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: So instead of discovering these things every day as we went, 585 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: I could say, Okay, I know exactly where the three 586 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: best food sources are, planned things accordingly. I could have 587 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: saved essentially a wasted night. That night was a waste 588 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: for me. So when you're on a trip like this, 589 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: were we only have seven, eight days or whatever, you 590 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: can't afford to have wasted days. You can't afford to 591 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: have wasted nights, and and we had one. So if 592 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: if I'm looking for different takeaways or things that I 593 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: could have done differently, that I can do differently in 594 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: the future, one of those things is going to be again, 595 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: try to get more scouting time. And when we talked 596 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: about this last week, Scott scout Scott more scouting the better, 597 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: and and I thought we had done I thought we 598 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: had found the things we needed to find, then felt confident. 599 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: But you know, we kept finding, we kept having new 600 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: challenges that forced us to forced us to do new 601 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: things in which having more information would have helped. So 602 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: you can never have enough scouting. Maybe we could have 603 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: done more scouting during the trip. That's another thing I 604 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: thought about the last couple of days. Should we have 605 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: been taking some of the time midday when we were 606 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: doing work or when we took a fishing break a 607 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: couple of times. Um, should we have gone and been 608 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: walking some other stuff to put you know, some contingency 609 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: plans in place. Um. It's a weird balancing act on 610 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: a trip like this because you're trying to kill a deer. 611 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: You're trying and do this at the same time, you 612 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: have to get at least in our case of yourself 613 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: to work. And then you know, like we had some 614 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: days like over the long weekend and stuff where we're 615 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: still trying to have a good time a little bit 616 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: and do some fishing, enjoy yourself. You're out west, you 617 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: don't get to do that a lot. But then I 618 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: look and say, well, we didn't spend every single possible 619 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: minute scouting or hunting right, we could have done a 620 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: little more. Um So those are the kinds of things 621 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: that I start looking back on and trying to, you know, 622 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: analyze and think through what could you have done differently? 623 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: Or maybe not? Maybe maybe maybe you don't need to 624 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: be uh machine on a trip like this. Maybe it's 625 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: okay to have some days you go do something a 626 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: little bit different because that keeps you moraile high and 627 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: that makes the larger trip enjoyable. Um it's not all 628 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: just about failing tag right, um So, so I don't know, 629 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: but that's These are all the things I'm thinking about 630 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: and that I'm going to continue to battle with I think, 631 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, I know I've definitely had those same thoughts 632 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: and like, oh man, should we have been doing this 633 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: or you know? And then I started thinking, if we 634 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: go to look at some of these other places, are 635 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: we putting more unnecessary pressure on some of these spots 636 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: then but they're may be already getting you know, by 637 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: going in there and scouting around and checking things out. 638 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: Um but yeah, I I also think some of our 639 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: our fishing breaks have been much needed morale boost for 640 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: some of the days that we've had. So it's a 641 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: catch twenty two for sure. Yeah, And and to your point, 642 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's the count. The constant balancing act on 643 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: a hunt like this is that balance between scouting and 644 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: learning and hunting while keeping pressure as low as possible. 645 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: And the whole name of the game on these hunts, 646 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: This one, more than some hunts have been on, has 647 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: been dealing with hunting pressure. It has been constant, it 648 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: has been more than expected. It's been unexpected places in 649 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: an unexpected way. And it's basically throwing a grenade into 650 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: every different plan we've put in place, and we've adjusted, 651 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: and you'll hear we keep on pivoting, We keep on 652 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: going in new spots or pushing in deeper, or trying 653 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: to adjust based on what's happening. And then there's a 654 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: new grenade and a new grenade, and I think that 655 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: brings me to the second or whatever number were on. 656 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: Another takeaway from me when I look back on this 657 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: experience and look back on past public land hunts, and 658 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: it's just being able to do what we just You 659 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: have to be able to pivot, You have to somehow 660 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: put on a smiley face and pivot to the next option. 661 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: And so many times we've had that happen where it's like, 662 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: son of a bitch, this thing happened. And then the 663 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: way I try to handle it is like I'll feel it, 664 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: I'll give myself like that night, I'm gonna be pissed 665 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: about it. That night, I'm gonna be frustrated. We'll vent 666 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: to each other for a little bit, and then's all right. 667 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: You gotta adapt and adjust, you gotta push through it. 668 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: You can't, you know, it's all. It's funny. It's so funny. 669 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: Everything we talked about last week in that episode, we've 670 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: dealt with this good timing. It was a good timing 671 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: because so much of the mental stuff we talked about 672 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: we've had to try to practice this week. And it's 673 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: not easy. It's not always easy to practice what you 674 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: preach on that one, because so many times you want 675 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: to get disheartened, you want to get frustrated, and and 676 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't want it. You do. I do get disheartened. 677 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: I do get frustrated to do get uh, just down 678 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: on stuff, and you somehow have to try to battle that. 679 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: And it's it's something that you just gotta do your 680 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: best at and try to figure out a way to 681 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: keep on grinding. I think we both had some therapy 682 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: sessions in the truck on the way from hunts this 683 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: this week for sure. So yeah, I'll tell you what 684 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: it's nice to be with somebody else. So I've been 685 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: on hunts like this solo, and it's it's easy to 686 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: it's easier to fall into those things when it's just 687 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: you and your head. When you've got another person there, 688 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: usually one of you can be like the good cop. 689 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: So if like when you're Aldonamo something, I was trying 690 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: to tell you, you know, hey, you can all change. 691 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: I got to keep pushing whatever. And then when I'm 692 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: piste off about something, you were saying the same thing 693 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: back to me. And that, I think is is another 694 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: great reason to go on these hunts with a partner. Um, 695 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: to to have a built in psychiatrist if you needed um. 696 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 1: So that was nine number three or four or whatever 697 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: it was. Um hunting pressure influenced us from both sides 698 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: in a bunch of unexpected ways. So after that, I think, um, 699 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: we decided to try a new area. Right, this is 700 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: my adversity day. This, well, your next day was the adversitydy, 701 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: wasn't it? Is? This? I think, well, I don't know, 702 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: I can't one of the many adversity days. Yeah, But 703 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: this day decided to go and hunt a new spot 704 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: that was kind of farther to the east, and this 705 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: was in the same general area, give or take. So 706 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: I I believe there to be more green alfalfa fields 707 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: in this section over here that we could access from 708 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: a different access point, different spot, but get into similar 709 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: types of habitat, great thick river bound cover with private 710 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: land crop fields on the outside, so same kind of game. 711 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get into the backset of this area. 712 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: And this time I found an access point that didn't 713 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: seem to be as known. It wasn't like a place 714 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: that's just for hunting. It seemed to be something that, um, 715 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: if you didn't know you could get in here to 716 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: hunt um from past experience, you wouldn't know it. While 717 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: the other place had like a gated little parking lot 718 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: and a closed road you could walk a mile back 719 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: this spot there was nothing. There was just a bunch 720 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: of woods and you had to cross the road and 721 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: dip into a little chunk of timber hop fence and 722 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,959 Speaker 1: then you were in it. So that said to get 723 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: back to one of these crop fields I had I 724 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: had spotted some bucks feeding out into one of these 725 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: fields this past July, I guess it was, and I 726 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: marked that an onyx, so I knew, okay, I know 727 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: for sure that there's some good bucks back in that 728 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: timber and that cover back there. It's about two miles 729 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: to get back there, though, but we've been dealing with 730 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: a lot of hunting pressure. And when you look at 731 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: this map, you've got a narrow stretch of cover along 732 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: this river on the public land, and then it eventually 733 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,959 Speaker 1: widens out in as much ox bows and just really 734 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: good looking stuff. And that was all right near where 735 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: that field where I saw those bucks were, So all 736 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: that told me that this seems to be a good 737 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: area to be. We decided to make the hike and 738 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: do it. So I got on the hiking boots and 739 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: walked and walked and walked and walked and walked and 740 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: walked and walked. As we walked in, there was a 741 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: trail camera and a tree stand just like within a 742 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: hundred yards of the access point. So already I'm a go, 743 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: no more hunters on this than this spot. To keep going. 744 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: We see another tree stand way up high. Keep going. 745 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: We see a ground blind so now I'm sweating bullets 746 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: thinking that even in this spot, we're back in it. 747 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: But we eventually get about a mile out back that disappeared, 748 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: and we get to a spot where the river comes 749 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: tight to the private land and there's a small pinch 750 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: republic in between it, and there is a elf helfa 751 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: field in the public land, not on the private land, 752 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: and an open gate and then the public land and 753 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of trails you could see all coming through there. 754 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: And that looked pretty dunk good to me. So we 755 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: decided that somebody's ships should sit there. And you did. 756 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: I did. I sat there, You sat there. Yeah. Um 757 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: ended up being a better night than the previous nights. Um. 758 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: They didn't quite use that area like I thought they would. Um. 759 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I had any deer come back from 760 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: the cover and go through the gate. Um. I did 761 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: see a few, uh, like one for sure, shooter buck 762 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: that had came him my east. Um. I think he 763 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: was maybe on on the private or on yeah, on 764 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: the private land. Um. They were away out a hundred 765 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: two hundred yards out, a small bachelor group with some 766 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 1: other bucks. But um, other than that, not a whole 767 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: lot going on back there. Ended up seeing a couple 768 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: of moose, I think like four moose that night that 769 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: came right out of the thick bedding where I was 770 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: hoping deer would come from a bowl and a cow 771 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: moose came out of there and making all sorts of racket. Um, 772 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: there was a deer headed down a trail towards me, 773 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: and that's when those moose came out. And I never 774 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: saw that deer. I don't know what it was. I 775 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: could just see the back of it. Um. Yeah, ended 776 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: up dealing with with moose that night. I think they 777 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: ended up being four out in the field by the 778 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: time I left, And as soon as they came out, 779 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: I had a couple of does come in the field. 780 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: But um, not really any other action from from bucks 781 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: that night. UM, at least close everything goes was a 782 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: ways off in the distance on on private, so I 783 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: had continue, you're done past that point, and I wanted 784 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 1: to try to get to this area directly above where 785 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: I had spotted those bucks in the summer. And what 786 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: I was trying to do with this situation was find 787 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: And again I've never walked back in here before, so 788 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to look at a map and pick the 789 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: best possible location off of a map. But what I 790 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: saw was, as I look at this area directly above 791 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: where the crop fields were, there was a long stretch 792 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: where is relatively open kind of sage brush, open field 793 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 1: kind of stuff on the public land. And then there 794 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: was a line of trees and then another opening and 795 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: then a bunch of really good thick stuff that led 796 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: up into this section of islands and ox bows. And 797 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: with the wind direction we had, I'm looking at that, 798 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to pick, Okay, where would I hunt 799 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: in this huge check or this huge chunk of ground. Well, 800 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have a good starting point, if I'm 801 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: a buck, there's a decent chance I'm not going to 802 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: cover any of that. I'm not going to cross any 803 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: of that open stuff. I'm gonna want to stay in 804 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: thick cover. So I looked at where's the thickest stuff, 805 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: and then how would you come from that very thickest 806 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: stuff in these islands down lawn that edge. My assumption 807 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: was that they would go no farther east than this 808 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: stage brush edge. So my idea was to set up 809 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: essentially off that edge, beneath it, in a spot where 810 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: I could see but beyond, you know, within shooting range 811 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: of this main trail that came off that edge. That's 812 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: all I had to work with. And then I wanted 813 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: to be somewhere I could at least see a good 814 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: distance on either side, again pointing to that whole observation 815 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: idea when you're on these hunts, want if you're not 816 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: really sure of where you're at, what you're doing, being 817 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: a place where you can learn something into jus for 818 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: the next day. So I got set up. I saw 819 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: some does early on, and then I don't know the 820 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 1: last twenty minutes of daylight, I had a buck pop out, 821 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: dropped down right off that edge, came across us. And 822 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: when I first saw him, thinking oh, that might be 823 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: a shooter buck, and he turned and looked at him, 824 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 1: he was like a decent a pointer, and I'm arranging him. 825 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: He's just past forty yards and at that distance in 826 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: the angle, ha, like, I don't want to try to 827 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: make that shot. Um, it just wasn't a shot. I 828 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: felt comfortable with with the way he was coming in 829 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: and the way the tree was in front of me. 830 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: So at the same time I see a second deer 831 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: come behind him, and that dear steps back. It's a 832 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: little bit farther behind him, and I put my binoculars 833 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: up on him, and he is a big buck. He's 834 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: a big buck, um, like a buck I would not 835 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: expect to see in public land. And he's at fifty five. 836 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: And the two of them passed once a little past 837 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: forty ones, that around fifty five, and they moved through, 838 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: and I can't get a shot anything. It's too far 839 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: for the big one. They moved through very excited. Moments later, 840 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: I see another deer, another like fifteen yards farther back, 841 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: and he steps out and he's even bigger, um, big 842 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: big buck. So I see these three nice bucks. Two 843 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: of them are impressive deer, and they go through and 844 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: quickly we're out of site. But a pinpoint exactly where 845 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: they crossed happened very fast. It was intense um and 846 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't get a shot. But it was this moment 847 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: of hope and excitement and were right away, Okay, I'm 848 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna make an adjustment tomorrow. I gonna get a shot him. Now. 849 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: When I sit and look back on that night, I 850 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: see one glaring missed opportunity, and just in the moment, 851 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: I never even thought about it, and I don't know 852 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: why not, but I didn't even think to try a grunt. 853 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: I should have. I mean, you could make an argument 854 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: that these deer were completely unaware of my presence. They're 855 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: moving through. You know, maybe it could have spooked him, 856 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: But these deer out here, I think, at least I 857 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,240 Speaker 1: used to think our relatively less pressured and more apts 858 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: to be susceptible to calls. So I think I could 859 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: have tried a you know, a light, little contact grunt 860 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: and maybe could have made one. I'm curious. All I 861 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: would have needed is that, you know, that second buck 862 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: to come another twenty yards closer out of curiosity, and 863 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: I might have been able to get a shot. And 864 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: I just never thought about it. I don't know what 865 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: what it was. I mean, I was just in the 866 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: moment and I was like, oh my gosh, look at 867 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: that one, and oh my gosh, look at that one. Um, 868 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: But that could have been a game changer. Maybe you 869 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: never know hin, um, but that's something that if I'm 870 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: looking back on things that I could have done differently, 871 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: that's definitely one of them. So I didn't the bucks 872 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 1: moved off. I waited till I was quite pretty confident 873 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: they'd moved way off and went out to the fields 874 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: and were long gone. And then I slipped out of 875 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: the really quiet, pulled my set, and then I made 876 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: sure to remember exactly where those dear crossed visually. So 877 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: the next day my plan was to come in and 878 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: set up about fifty sixty yards farther to the east 879 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: to hope intercepted them coming back through. Very excited that night, 880 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: um and was full of hope, excited to see what 881 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: would happened, and the next day to be to to 882 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: move it along. I guess you had some stuff come up. 883 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: You couldn't hunt that night, some stuff. Um, So I 884 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: was going solo and I snuck back in there, and 885 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: this was I felt great, the the wind was right. 886 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: I slipped in there in such a way that, you know, 887 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: just once I got close to the generator, I was 888 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: just in super stealth mode. Took it slow and smoothed. 889 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: Then I slipped in and made a big loop back 890 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: around the section so that I wouldn't walk anywhere that 891 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: these deer might possibly cross. Made sure that my scent 892 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: was as far to the downwards side of possible, so 893 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: like essentially Luke did like a jay hook around and 894 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: then approached my tree from the bottom, got into it, 895 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: got all set up, um and and I found the tree. 896 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: So I didn't have a set up there yet at 897 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 1: this point, and basically had moved to be downwind of 898 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: where these bucks had passed through, but within shot shooting 899 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: range of war all three deer came through. I found 900 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: a tree with a big fork and a bunch of 901 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: vines hanging off of the prize provided some pretty darn 902 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: good cover, and um, I felt good. The night progressed. 903 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: We should point out all of these nights it was 904 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: like nineties, high eighties to low nineties, the whole super hot, 905 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: so all the movement was in the last half hour 906 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: to hour in most cases, and that ended up being 907 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 1: the case. Here we get to the last half hour 908 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: or so, a bunch of does come out passed by, 909 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: and then boom, here comes a buck popping out of 910 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: the same spot that those bucks did the night before, 911 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: and some the cold crap game on. I got my bow, 912 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 1: I clip on. First it was like a little velvet 913 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: five pointer, and then a hard horned six, and then 914 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: a velvet seven pointer, and then there was one of 915 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: the bucks I think of four key and then here 916 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: comes at eight point from the night before, and so 917 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: at that point I'm thinking, oh, okay, this is the 918 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: running buddy. Then right behind him is going to be 919 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: the two giants. And so they come in, they filter, 920 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 1: and they stopped like all around me. So I've got 921 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: five bucks in all directions of me, all within shooting range, 922 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: fiddling around that big eight, not big, but like a 923 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: decent eight. He's like rubbing his antlers and tree limbs 924 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: and fiddling around, and I'm I'm looking at them, like, God, 925 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: where's the other box? Where the other box? Where the 926 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: other bucks? Should I shoot that a pointer? Where the 927 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: other box? They gotta be coming, They gotta be coming, 928 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: and to to to move to jump right to it. 929 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: I guess I decided not to shoot that a pointer 930 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: because I just had to give a chance of these 931 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: other deer to come. They've been with him the night before, 932 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: and they never showed. And the other deer eventually moved off, 933 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: and I had chip shots at this eight pointer that 934 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: I didn't take um or all these other bucks. I mean, 935 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: I could have shot any one of these five bucks, 936 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't because I had kind of got in 937 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: my mindset on one of those two big boys, and 938 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: that could have been viewed as a mistake because I 939 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen those two bucks again. And I you know, 940 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 1: this is a similt situation to what I had last 941 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: year where I was in North Dakota and I've seen 942 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: a really big buck scouting one morning and I went 943 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: in made a move on him, and outcomes a really 944 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: nice eight. This was a bigger eight, and I passed 945 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: on him because I was hoping that the real big 946 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: buck would behind him, and he never showed. I never 947 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: saw him again, and then I found myself regretting not 948 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: taking that shot in this situation. I don't think I 949 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: made the wrong decision in that case, because he had 950 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: to at least give it one chance to have the 951 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: big guys roll through. It would have killed me if 952 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: I shot that buck and then they showed up right 953 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: behind him. Um. At the same time, I should would 954 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: like to fill tech. So I don't know. You could 955 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: make an argument that I'm an idiot because I keep 956 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: passing on a lot of nice box out here in 957 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: public land that a lot of guys would take. Um. 958 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 1: You can make an argument that hunt your own hunt 959 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: and do what makes you happy, and at that moment 960 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: that is what I really wanted to try to. I 961 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: made the move forward those two dear. I really want 962 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: to get a chance that those two deer. I was 963 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: very excited about those two deer and I wanted to 964 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: give the chance for that to play out. It didn't 965 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: play out. It didn't work out. Um, it is what 966 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,959 Speaker 1: it is. But it's something that I'm sure I'm gonna 967 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: be thinking about in the days to come. And I 968 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: did think about in the days to come, because the 969 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: next day I thought, Okay, well, those bucks came through 970 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,760 Speaker 1: exactly like I was hoping they would. They didn't spook, 971 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: they didn't freak out. I had a lot of dear 972 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: move through. It was all. It all went to script. 973 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: But the two big boys didn't show. I do you 974 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: never know? But I thought, in my head, man, there's 975 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: a chance it was just a fluke last night, and 976 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: maybe they'll come through again. I think I should give 977 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: it another chance. So I decided to slip back in there. 978 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,919 Speaker 1: I've got the same winds, same conditions, everything. I'm gonna 979 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: try it one more time from that spot. I get 980 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: into that spot, I'm feeling good, it's looking good, and 981 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe a half hour into the set, 982 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: I start hearing U A t V s or U 983 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 1: TVs driving up and I hear like kids like yelling 984 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: and screaming, and they pull up like close. It sounds 985 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 1: like they're hundred yards away or hundred fifty yards away 986 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: or something, and my heart sinks something. Oh no, what's 987 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,399 Speaker 1: going on? And they're coming from the private land. So 988 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: this group of people comes inot the private land and 989 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: they start like cutting stuff. I hear saws and hammers 990 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: and people hitting metal against metal, and I'm trying to 991 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: listen and trying to figure out what what are they doing? Um? 992 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 1: Because at this point I'm thinking, Okay, do I need 993 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: to bail or do I stick it out because it's 994 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: gonna be like they're coming in here grabbing something farm 995 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: equipment and they're gonna be gone or are they gonna 996 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: be here for a long time? So I'm listening, listening, 997 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there stressing out, trying to start what 998 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 1: to do. And then I hear someone mentioned something about 999 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: tie downs and it's sounds like those girls and boys 1000 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 1: at first. And when I hear the thing ties downs, 1001 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: I started thinking, are they like setting up camp? Like 1002 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: is it like a group of kids are gonna like 1003 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: set up a tent and camp out on there, you know, 1004 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: on the edge of their farm for the night. So 1005 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: I got this idea in my head that was maybe 1006 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 1: what was going on, because it was for a long time, 1007 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: all this noise in one place. So okay, I have 1008 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: to move. I'm you know, I'm too close. So I 1009 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: was commotion. These bucks aren't gonna come all the way 1010 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: out here, but maybe they'll come out of the bedding, 1011 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: and if I get right in the edge of the bedding, 1012 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: maybe they'll stop there and mill around and I'll you'll 1013 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: get a shot. So I pulled out my stuff. I 1014 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 1: decided to leave my set hanging, and I'm gonna sneak 1015 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: on the ground and try to set up on the ground. 1016 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: I slip out. I sneak about two yards deeper into 1017 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: the bedding cover area, towards the bedding cover, at least 1018 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,720 Speaker 1: slip sliding in real slow sneake, sneake, sneak. I'm seeing 1019 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,879 Speaker 1: some good trails and sign I'm feeling like I'm getting 1020 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: to the edge of like where like this real, the 1021 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: real betting stuff is happening. I get in there, I 1022 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 1: settle in, find a little nook to get comfy in, 1023 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's down to I don't know, like 1024 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: an hour and a half or an hour of daylight 1025 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: left or something, and I think, Okay, maybe this will 1026 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: work out. You know, I was saying this stuff. We 1027 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: were just saying adapted to adjusticely. In my head, I 1028 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: was like, God, totally screwing up this great plan I have. 1029 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: But now we're gonna adapted, adjusting the sneak and it's 1030 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: gonna be right. Get set. And then I hear and 1031 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 1: the dang a TV or U TV with a bunch 1032 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: of people comes driving right across this track that I 1033 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: trossed all the way back into me. I can't quite 1034 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: see that, I can. I can see them come up 1035 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: on a little rise and then they now they're coming 1036 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 1: back into the bedding cover by me, and they're yelling 1037 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: and screaming and hooting and hollering and stuff, and they 1038 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: drive past me deeper back towards the river, like right 1039 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: into all the good betting cover. So now I'm basically devastated, 1040 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,479 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, okay, I have Then now this spot 1041 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: is blown out. What's the next thing I'll do? If 1042 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm these deer and all the commotions happening here on 1043 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: the east side. Maybe these deer will pivot and they'll 1044 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: try to go to the far west side. So I'm like, Okay, 1045 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back to the trail, and I'm gonna 1046 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: go to the far west side of this chunk and 1047 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: just hope that maybe whatever deer aren't totally scared out 1048 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 1: of their minds might come through that section as far 1049 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: away from the noise and commotion as possible. So the 1050 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: night slip slide, sneak, sneak, sneak, sneak, sneak. We're down 1051 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: to the last half hour daylight, forty minutes something like that. 1052 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: Sneak over there and get positioned in a spot where, 1053 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: if nothing else I can walk, I can watch a 1054 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: little kind of a lane and see where these how 1055 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: these deer adjusted. Because I believe that deer, these deer 1056 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: would do something, I want to see how they adjust 1057 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: to tell us commotion to the east. So find a 1058 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: new spot, get set up, tucked into a cedar, and 1059 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: not like five minutes after getting settled in, here comes 1060 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: another UTV drives down and this one this time comes 1061 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: all the way past me, literally within ten yards of 1062 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: me um and there's a group of like young people 1063 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: on it, hooting and holler and yelling. They've got what 1064 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: looks like ladder stands in the back of their UTV 1065 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: and they drive past me. They drive back into another 1066 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: section of the river. I hear them yelling and hooting 1067 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 1: and like e hying and making like obnoxious amounts of noise. 1068 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: A couple minutes later, they come driving by again, and 1069 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm trying to like listening here and stuff. I'm like, 1070 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: what's going on? What are these people doing? Like it 1071 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: made like when they were just going and setting up 1072 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: camp or something, or what I thought was setting up camp. Okay, 1073 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: that's one thing, but now they're driving all over the 1074 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: property and it's not like they're just chatting with each other. 1075 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: They're making obnoxious amounts of noise, banging metal, like banging 1076 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: things on the ladders and stuff. And then I hear 1077 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,879 Speaker 1: someone say he was seeing some nice deer and then 1078 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: the other guy says, not anymore. Ha ha ha ha. 1079 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm if I'm reading too 1080 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: much into it or what, but at that point I'm like, 1081 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my hunt's being sabotaged. And maybe I'm wrong. 1082 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: Maybe there I mean, they certainly certainly seeing that these 1083 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 1: kids are trying to screw this whole area. It really 1084 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,439 Speaker 1: seemed like they were going all over the place, making 1085 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: a ton of noise and like that time of like 1086 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: the last hour late like last hour daylight. They were 1087 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 1: obviously hunters. You can see they had stuff in the 1088 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,439 Speaker 1: back of their thing, but they weren't dressed a hunt 1089 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: um and they're talking about, you know, someone have been 1090 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: seeing nice deer back there not anymore ha ha ha. 1091 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe who knows what the situation was, 1092 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,720 Speaker 1: but I had a moment where I'm thinking, these sons 1093 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: of these guys, someone is following my Instagram story and 1094 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: is seeing it has summed up pinned down where I'm hunting, 1095 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 1: or they've seen my truck and they figured out I'm 1096 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: hunting back here and they're trying to blow it up. 1097 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 1: That's probably not the case, but I certainly had a 1098 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: moment there where I was like, oh my gosh, this 1099 00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: is really really frustrating, and uh yeah, so that was 1100 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 1: a bad night for me. I got out of there 1101 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: and was upset with the whole scenario and not sure 1102 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do, and uh, I decided to 1103 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 1: hold off on my live Instagram updates for a few 1104 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: days because of that. Um, and that was a situation 1105 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: where what can you do? I mean, we kept on 1106 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: trying to pivot from all these different pressure hunting pressure 1107 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,760 Speaker 1: scenarios and then two miles off from the nearest public 1108 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: access two freaking miles back, and then you've got people 1109 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: coming in and blowing it up. I mean, what are 1110 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: you gonna do about that? I was, I was dialed 1111 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: in onto like awesome public land box and then that happens. Um, yeah, 1112 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: that's that was a bummer of a night. I had 1113 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: a similar night that night. Um, we had pulled a 1114 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: trail camera. At this point, we kind of decided to 1115 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: split up. That spot was getting so much pressure, let's 1116 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: split up, see what we can find in some other spots. So, UM, 1117 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: we had pulled a trail came mid day and out 1118 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: some recent intel that there was some good bucks that 1119 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: one of these other areas that we're looking at, and 1120 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: she's what that cameras for four or five days and 1121 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: we had three deer that we're all shooters on there, 1122 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: two of one in daylight, one on the edge of daylight, 1123 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: and one is in the middle of the night. But 1124 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of it's kind of in 1125 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: the spot you wouldn't really think the hunt, but it 1126 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: was definitely getting some traffic, some some deer traffic through 1127 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: it where it kind of pinches down and um, you know, 1128 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: it's holiday weekend and I'm not too far from the 1129 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: access road and there's some two tracks and stuff through it, 1130 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: and man, it was just a TV after you TV 1131 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: after dirt bike after truck going down the road and 1132 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: it finally stopped, you know, maybe an hour and a 1133 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: half before before dark. But I think the damage had 1134 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: already been done at that point where we thought those 1135 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: deer would be coming from. There's people driving by all day. 1136 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: Going back to what I talked about earlier, how you 1137 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: need you to have you know, you need to have 1138 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot of scouting lot you need a lot of 1139 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: contingency plans when you're gonna do some public plan hunting. 1140 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: And what I did do well to a degree, it 1141 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: was I had a lot of contingency plans this year. 1142 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: Not that I didn't have like well researched or well scouted, 1143 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: but I had places like I had places that I 1144 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 1: knew a little bit about, you know, four different good 1145 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: chunks that we could hunt that I had a basic 1146 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: level of knowledge about. And then in this case, this 1147 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,919 Speaker 1: is one property that we went in and we did 1148 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: scout it on foot the first day we got in, 1149 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: that first morning, we went and scouted this and hung 1150 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: cameras just as a backup plan. We want to go 1151 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: hunt these other places first, but we want to have 1152 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: this back up. And thank goodness we did, because you know, 1153 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: when we decided that there's just too much stuff going 1154 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: on and you were going to try this new area, 1155 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: pulled the camera and right there new boost to hope, 1156 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: gave us some new hope. Yet for sure two nice 1157 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: bucks using it and UM didn't work out for you 1158 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: that night. You have three nice bucks didn't work out 1159 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: for you that night, but it gave us another option 1160 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: to work with UM and so what so that was 1161 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: the sabotage night. And again, so much of this hunt 1162 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: was just like you get punched in the face, and 1163 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: like how do you get back up? The moral of 1164 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: the story the more if you if you want to 1165 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: take anything from this whole podcast about the trials and 1166 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 1: tribulations of public land deer hunting, the biggest thing is 1167 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: learned to take a punch, Like learn to take a punch, 1168 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: get back up and adjust. How do you adjust to 1169 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: hunting pressure? How do you adjust to the guy walking 1170 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: past your trees stand? How do you adjust to there 1171 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,439 Speaker 1: being three trucks of the parking lot when you show 1172 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 1: up to your spot? How do you adjust when your 1173 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,439 Speaker 1: tree stan't gets stolen? Like, all these different things are 1174 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: possible in public land, and you can have great hunts, 1175 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: like I've killed some great bucks in public land. I've 1176 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: had some really fun hunts in public land. We've seen 1177 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 1: a lot of good bucks. Like we've been right there 1178 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: on the edge of it. We've been so close to 1179 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: getting shots, and then we've had all these things happen 1180 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: where right and we're zeering in Bam, here comes somewhere 1181 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: with bam, here comes something else. Um, so it's it's 1182 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: it's possible, it's awesome, but it's tough, it's different, and 1183 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 1: we just had to keep on reminding ourselves of hey, 1184 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: it could change in a second. We just have to 1185 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: keep on moving to the next option, move to the 1186 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 1: next option, and maybe this one it'll finally work out. 1187 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: So it's definitely been a a game of mental chess, 1188 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out a way to stay positive 1189 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: and keep moving. But we had this sabotage night. The 1190 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: next day, we hunted in the morning. Um. We started 1191 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: hunting mornings the back half of the trip given the 1192 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: fact that we hadn't filled their tags yet. Stuff was 1193 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: starting to get a little down to the line. So 1194 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: we had we scouted one morning to that point, and 1195 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: now we started hunting. Um. And I don't even think 1196 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: there's anything terribly exciting about this hunts. We hunted that 1197 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: that new areas where we both hunted, Neither one of 1198 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: us saw anything to speak of. That night was like 1199 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 1: a dangerous windstorm that came through and it was blowing 1200 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: down trees all over the place. We did not hunt 1201 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: that night. Um. But when you look at a short 1202 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: trip like this, every hunt matter. We missed a night 1203 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 1: because of that, So that was a big deal. Like 1204 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 1: that was one eighth of our possible good hunts as 1205 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 1: far as evening hunts gone because of a storm. And 1206 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: then I had another wasted hunt because of my debacle hike. Um. 1207 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: And you can point to a lot of our other 1208 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: hunts that became debacles, can wasted hunts because of this 1209 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: hunting pressure or the sabotage and night all that kind 1210 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. So that brings us to last night, right, yep. 1211 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 1: So we've had all these things happen. We've had everywhere 1212 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: we've gone, we've been blown up by other hunters or 1213 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: other people, but we have head sightings and we have 1214 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: had some close calls. So last night I did some 1215 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: mental gymnastics and I'm trying to think through, Okay, what 1216 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: should I do? Um. My initial gut reaction was that, Okay, 1217 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: all that action happened in there. Two nights prior, we 1218 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: had this big storm blow through in a big coal 1219 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: front hit, so went from being the nineties to now 1220 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: being in like the fifties. Her Yeah, I think it 1221 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,439 Speaker 1: was like high high fifty um, so huge coal fronmt 1222 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: pushed through. All that commotion that happened back in my 1223 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: little honey hole was bad, but it was all on 1224 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: a UTV and like in just like a couple of 1225 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 1: places where they got out. So these deer used to 1226 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: farmers coming and making a racket all around here. I 1227 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of convinced myself that maybe the impact won't be 1228 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: quite as bad as I initially feared, And I forgot 1229 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: to mention that night after they drove by and left, 1230 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 1: I end up seeing deer immediately start moving, like as 1231 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: soon as they drove away. The last five minutes of daylight, 1232 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I had a couple of bucks and a couple of 1233 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 1: dolls come crossing in front of me. Still, so that 1234 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 1: gave me a thinking, Okay, these deers hunkered down, they 1235 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,320 Speaker 1: wait till the farmers leave, and they get right back 1236 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: to it. So now I'm thinking maybe with this mega 1237 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: cold front that just pushed through, and with the fact 1238 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: that all that sabotage at least was you know, it 1239 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: wasn't a guy criss crossing on foot everywhere, it was 1240 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 1: people driving around. We're driving up to the property to 1241 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 1: go hunt, and we see a truck on the side 1242 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: of the road on the private land with two hunters 1243 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: getting ready to go and hunt. So now I've got 1244 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: a new curve ball throwing in my plans because they 1245 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 1: this was pretty close to if those guys came off 1246 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: the private went straight in, they would eventually hit the 1247 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: same general area as hunting on public. So as I'm 1248 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 1: hiking in to go in there, I'm sitting here and 1249 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking in my mind what to do, And I've 1250 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: got one part of me that says, you had this 1251 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: blow up in there two nights ago, and now there's 1252 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 1: two guys that are going in to hunt somewhere in 1253 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: the same general area. You need to pull your set, 1254 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,479 Speaker 1: You need to push in there even deeper, right into 1255 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: the heart of the bedding, and hope something works out. 1256 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 1: The other side of me said, this huge cold front 1257 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: came through. It's gonna get the demer moving early, the 1258 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: whole farmer than just described to you, which hopefully will 1259 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: make things not as bad. And these two hunters that 1260 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: you're seeing have not been here at all this week. 1261 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: This is the first time I've ever seen this truck 1262 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: or these hunters anywhere in the area, so they don't 1263 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 1: they probably I'm making assumptions, but as I was trying 1264 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 1: to make guesswork here, I'm thinking, Okay, there locals because 1265 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: they're accessing from the private land. If I'm a local 1266 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: around here, I don't think anyone ever comes to hunts's 1267 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: public I can't. Maybe I'm wrong, but I gotta believe 1268 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: it's rare. The people are hunting the public land, hiking 1269 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: in two miles to get back to this stuff, so 1270 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: they're not used to other hunters being back there. Probably, 1271 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 1: And secondly, if I live out here, and I'm a 1272 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: Western guy. You're probably used to seeing a bunch of 1273 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 1: white tails coming out and feeding these huge alfalfa fields. Right, 1274 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 1: there's tons of deer. They're all feeding out the field. Um, 1275 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking if it's the first night out that I've 1276 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: been out in a big cold front, isn't I'm thinking 1277 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,439 Speaker 1: these deer are gonna be on the fields, so maybe 1278 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: these guys are just gonna hunt the field edge. So 1279 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: I did all these mental gymnastics, and I convinced myself 1280 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: that I should sit the same tree again because I 1281 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: just had a lot of confidence in that specific tree, 1282 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 1: Like I knew that was the killing tree that these 1283 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: bucks would come by twice before, and I just didn't 1284 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: have as much confidence if I went in tried to 1285 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: find a brand new spot further in that might get 1286 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: me closer to the bedding, but I wouldn't be in 1287 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: the right spot. And we're down to only two more 1288 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: sits two more nights at least, And essentially I I 1289 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 1: was juggling this back and forth, back and forth, back 1290 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 1: and forth as I'm hiking in for the two hours 1291 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: or the two miles, and right when I get to 1292 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: the spot where my saddles hung up. I slip in there, 1293 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: and there's deer moving already. There's some does that I 1294 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: end up bumping away from where I was. So there, 1295 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, there's deer and here feeding hanging out comfortable. 1296 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: That means those guys didn't come in here. They are 1297 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: hunting the edge. I'm still the furthest back. It's gonna 1298 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 1: be okay. I climb in there. I decided to give 1299 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: it a shot, and I don't see crap the whole night. 1300 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 1: I saw a moose and a calf and I saw 1301 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 1: two more doughs that came from the alf alfa heading 1302 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: back into bedding. Nothing came through from I heard some 1303 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 1: dear blowing back further into the bedding, which made me 1304 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 1: wonder if maybe one of these hunters did pushed back 1305 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: there and was scared and deer and was essentially it 1306 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: cut me off. Maybe not. I don't know, um, but 1307 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: it's a really disappointing, frustrating night again. And uh, you know, 1308 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: this is a situation where maybe I had rose colored glasses. 1309 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I I wanted it to work out so bad 1310 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: there that I convinced myself of all these things. I 1311 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 1: convinced myself. Oh, they're probably just gonna hunt the edge 1312 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: because of all those things that just described. Oh, the 1313 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 1: sabotage night probably wasn't as bad as you originally thought 1314 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: because they were just on the UTV. Um. Oh, you know, 1315 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 1: they'll probably come back through because yeah, you've been in 1316 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: this general are a couple of times, but you know, 1317 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 1: nothing ever spooked when they crossed your ground trail. You 1318 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: never once heard a dear blow or so anyone thinks spook. 1319 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 1: And so I essentially took all these possible negative things, 1320 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 1: and because I wanted it to work out so much, 1321 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: I maybe convinced myself to sit somewhere that I shouldn't 1322 01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: have um high say twenty right. I mean maybe it 1323 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: could have all worked out and it could have been great, um, 1324 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 1: and I'd be sitting here towny. I was. I was smart. 1325 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,640 Speaker 1: Look at all this great mental gymnastics I did to 1326 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: think through all these scenarios, and I stuck to my guns, 1327 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: and there was the right scenario and here they come. Um. 1328 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 1: But they didn't. So that was last night. And after that, 1329 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: after sitting this spot and having it gone from seeing 1330 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot of deer and three good bucks to now 1331 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: seeing almost no deer. I definitely knew it was time 1332 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 1: to pull the plug on that spot. And Um, and 1333 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,919 Speaker 1: that was my my last night in that area. You 1334 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: had gone to a brand new child, went to another 1335 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 1: another chunk to try to get on some deer, and 1336 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: and hiked way back in there and got into some 1337 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,960 Speaker 1: stuff that was looking good. And UM had high hopes 1338 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 1: for this spot, and very similar to you, nothing going on. 1339 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 1: I heard some I got. I literally just got all 1340 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 1: set up, and I wasn't thrilled about my spot. It 1341 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,160 Speaker 1: was very limited in trees, a lot of big like 1342 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 1: old cotton woods down in here, and just you couldn't 1343 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: get it. You couldn't get straps around the trees, or 1344 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 1: they were um split off, or they were dead, or 1345 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: the one tree I wanted to get in was like 1346 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 1: half eaten by a beaver. It's like I probably shouldn't 1347 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,440 Speaker 1: go up from that. So it's just like just one 1348 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 1: thing after another. And in the spot where I thought 1349 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 1: they'd be coming through, UM, on this little creek, it 1350 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 1: looked like from the maps that you could see trails 1351 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,800 Speaker 1: coming out of there. And I got there and there 1352 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: was no trails coming out of there. Um. The water 1353 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 1: was maybe a little high from some of the rain 1354 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 1: and some things that it has been going on here. Um, 1355 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 1: but ended up finding another secondary little location that I liked. 1356 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 1: It was in some just on the edge of some 1357 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,520 Speaker 1: thick stuff, a lot of trails criss crossing through. Um 1358 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 1: some of this cotton wood. I don't I don't want 1359 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,760 Speaker 1: to call it savannah, but like you know, you got 1360 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: the big cotton woods, and you know the grass, you know, 1361 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 1: the grassy fields below it, and um, so I get 1362 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 1: all set up and I hear crash, crash, crash, and 1363 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,640 Speaker 1: the thick stuff to my south, and like, all right, 1364 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 1: here we go, this is a spot. And now it 1365 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 1: pops out like three moose like a bowl and two 1366 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: cows and he's chasing them all around and grunting and 1367 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: they're just making a racket for like a half hour 1368 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,639 Speaker 1: in there, and then um, they kind of calmed down, 1369 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 1: and then you know, over to my over to my west, 1370 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 1: I guess it would have been here's some here's some 1371 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: more crashing, and look over there, another moose coming out. 1372 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 1: So I ended up seeing six moose at this spot 1373 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 1: last night. UM, I guess, stop being white tail tags 1374 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 1: in these Western trips and just figure out how I 1375 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 1: could get a noose tag because gosh, yeah, it's cool 1376 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: to see. It's a lot of fun to see, and 1377 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 1: you know it's not something to get to see at home. Um. 1378 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,679 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't think there um 1379 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 1: necessarily ideal for having white tails in the area when 1380 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 1: he got these big animals bedding in there and moving 1381 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: all around, and um, I don't know. I don't know 1382 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: if they pushed deer out of there, but I didn't 1383 01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 1: see any deer. So that was that night. I mean 1384 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,720 Speaker 1: more moose mo de Yeah, I forgot. I did see 1385 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,640 Speaker 1: a cow and a calf. I don't know if I 1386 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: mentioned that or not. I did see color and calf 1387 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:14,040 Speaker 1: last night. So yeah, we kept on trying new spots 1388 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: and and panned out. It brings to I was in 1389 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,839 Speaker 1: an area that I could see a pretty good distance 1390 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 1: and nothing going on around me. And and basically all 1391 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 1: of these places we've tried to be in we've tried 1392 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 1: to balance two things. We've tried to in most cases 1393 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 1: get into the cover and close to bedding scouts so 1394 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: we know we're close to these concentrations, but also placed 1395 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: ourselves in places where we can see because again we've 1396 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 1: got very little intel to work from. So we get close, 1397 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,680 Speaker 1: get in that concentration point, but with the opportunity to 1398 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,560 Speaker 1: pivot to a next day location based off an observation. 1399 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: So in your case, you had that you're right up 1400 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: on the edge of that thick stuff to yourself right, 1401 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: but you can then see a good way as a 1402 01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 1: head of use. You can see if they crossed out 1403 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,679 Speaker 1: of any where else. Yep, I could see through there's 1404 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 1: a little meadow that that creek ran through, and I 1405 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: could see down through there if anything came out, um, 1406 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 1: which a moose did, but nothing else, And I could 1407 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 1: see then to my west a pretty good ways kind 1408 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 1: of back. Um. So I had a pretty good vantage 1409 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,719 Speaker 1: point of a pretty wide area from that spot. And 1410 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 1: that takes us to this morning, the last hunt covered 1411 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 1: on this podcast. We decided to hunt the forest like 1412 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the Mountain Forest section where we had gotten those good 1413 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,640 Speaker 1: bucks on trail camera. UM. I slipped up on a 1414 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 1: ridge back behind you a ways. You had kind of 1415 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: already had this pre hunked spot where that trail camera was, 1416 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to get encroach in your space there, 1417 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 1: So I swung up and snuck down this ridge and 1418 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 1: sat down on the corner of it. And um, the 1419 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: only thing of note for my whole hunt this morning 1420 01:11:53,720 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: was around seven, I don't know, seven thirty. Oh my gosh, 1421 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: there's actually dear coming. So I'm like knocked on ready 1422 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 1: and then here comes the hunter and another hunter and 1423 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 1: they come walking by like seven yards in front of 1424 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 1: me and walk past. I'm like, jeez, I literally I 1425 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 1: was sitting on the ground. I literally laid down the 1426 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 1: ground of put my arms up. I'm just like, I 1427 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 1: get up and I freaking get out, Like I can't 1428 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,799 Speaker 1: get away from people. Everywhere I've gone. I've hiked miles 1429 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 1: and miles. I've gone in the mountains, I've gone the 1430 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 1: river bottoms, I've gone, you know, I've I don't know, 1431 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 1: just a nap and I'll get away from people. So 1432 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 1: that was another interesting moment. And then eventually walked over 1433 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: back to your spot to get you and uh, you've 1434 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 1: had a more interesting day, a little bit more interesting. 1435 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,680 Speaker 1: I had the same experience earlier than you. Those same 1436 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 1: two hunters came walking by me about seven seven fifteen 1437 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: something like that. Um, so forty five, I mean was 1438 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,840 Speaker 1: that a half hour forty five minutes after shooting light? 1439 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 1: They come walking through, and Um, I saw them go up. 1440 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,240 Speaker 1: Then I knew they were going to probably head towards you. 1441 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 1: They started looping around towards you, So you know, I 1442 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: was feeling the same thing. I just sitting in my seat. 1443 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: I was like again, like jeez, like we just you know, 1444 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,920 Speaker 1: can't catch a break. And I'm sitting there and I'm sulking, 1445 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: and I look over and on to the other side 1446 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 1: of this canyon and I see a deer walking up 1447 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,600 Speaker 1: the steep hill of this cane and kind of sidehilling 1448 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: it up, and UM, throw my binos up and it's 1449 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 1: one of those bucks, one of those nice bucks we 1450 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,759 Speaker 1: had on trail camera. He's he I think what happened 1451 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 1: is I think he probably was on our side, and 1452 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 1: I think that I don't know if they got spooked 1453 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 1: or maybe just bumped out of where they were at 1454 01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: or off their course of travel by those other hunters, 1455 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,960 Speaker 1: and I think they dropped down the creek and then 1456 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,120 Speaker 1: back up the other side, just based on the angle 1457 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 1: of their of their movement. And then behind him was 1458 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: another one of the nice bucks that we had on 1459 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: trail camera, and they went into the thick stuff up 1460 01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 1: on top of this other canyon. Um, so that was 1461 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 1: basically the end. I mean that that happened around seven 1462 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 1: thirty ish and sat for another hour, hour and a 1463 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 1: half and and didn't see anything. Um to know other 1464 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 1: than that, but at least gives me a little bit 1465 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 1: of hope tonight that I could potentially set up on 1466 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,160 Speaker 1: on then maybe coming back down across the creek. I 1467 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, at this point it's a we're 1468 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,120 Speaker 1: swinging for the fences here with whatever we can do. 1469 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 1: But um, at least make an educated guests on on 1470 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 1: what I think they're gonna do, and and see what happens. Yeah, 1471 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,720 Speaker 1: So tonight is our very last hunt to the trip. Yep, 1472 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 1: We've gotta take off to farm warning. So you're gonna 1473 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 1: go set up on the creek, yep? I think so. 1474 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm gonna do and just um 1475 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,800 Speaker 1: see what happens. I think that I am going to 1476 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 1: bail on the sabotage spot and go back to the 1477 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 1: very first area we hunted. The last three times we've 1478 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,599 Speaker 1: driven back there. We have to drive by the original 1479 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 1: spot to get to the sabotage spot, and there have 1480 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:10,120 Speaker 1: not been hunter trucks there. So I'm hoping that there's 1481 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: not been as much pressure back there as was as 1482 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,759 Speaker 1: there was earlier in our trip. As my hope and 1483 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,600 Speaker 1: my idea is too, I'm still going to push in 1484 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 1: there really far. I'm still gonna push in at least 1485 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 1: a mile and a half. Um. But what I'm gonna 1486 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 1: do is I'm gonna go walk the closed road, walk 1487 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,479 Speaker 1: past that whole area you were hunting, Walk past the 1488 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,799 Speaker 1: first couple of places. I hunted past the creek crossing stuff, 1489 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 1: and actually hunt a chunk that I noticed on my 1490 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: death March day, the night when I ran into the 1491 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,680 Speaker 1: serial killer um. As I was hiking in there. On 1492 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 1: the way in, I found this spot that is it 1493 01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,719 Speaker 1: just looks like a bunch of deer moon all funneled 1494 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 1: into this, this small um opening of sorts in the 1495 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 1: middle of a ton of thick, nasty Russian olive and 1496 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 1: and cottonwood stuff. There's last times, there's like walls of 1497 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 1: the stuff that you can't cross the all. And what 1498 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 1: I've noticed in a lot of these Western states this 1499 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,480 Speaker 1: river bottom stuff is when you get these little openings 1500 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 1: in there, the deer naturally gravitate towards them where they 1501 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,759 Speaker 1: can get an easy travel path into, you know, towards 1502 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 1: wherever they want to go, and so it's still very thick. 1503 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're it's it's a jungle in there. But 1504 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 1: inside the jungle there's a small highway kind of and 1505 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: this small highway from Google Maps, you can literally see 1506 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 1: a bunch of trails coming in and the dirt all 1507 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 1: coming into that and then heading right towards that alf 1508 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: alfa field to the east corner of the alf alfa 1509 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,680 Speaker 1: field that you watched the first night where you saw 1510 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of deer coming in. Essential, what I'm hoping 1511 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 1: this is is I'm hoping this is you know, it's 1512 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna be It's not the very end of the funnel, 1513 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 1: because the very end of the funnels on private land 1514 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,840 Speaker 1: by the alf alfa fields. But I'm hoping it's gonna 1515 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: be midway up a funnel of deer movement where they're 1516 01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: coming from all these different places and they're they're filtering 1517 01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 1: down towards the food. And my hope is that this 1518 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 1: thing is way back in the cover, um but in 1519 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of a funnel of sorts that I'm 1520 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 1: that I'm banking on with colder weather, with hopefully no 1521 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: one being crazy enough to push that far back in 1522 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: with hopefully, um, hopefully my guests about the deer movement 1523 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 1: and based off the sign I said, I want to 1524 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 1: walk down there's all right, hopefully something's going to move 1525 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,599 Speaker 1: through there, and um, I think it has the highest 1526 01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,639 Speaker 1: number of potential target deer based on what you saw 1527 01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 1: that first night. You know what we've seen, um, and 1528 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 1: my you know, my standards are. You know, I'm not 1529 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 1: waiting out for two big giants anymore. I'm willing to, 1530 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 1: um take a crack in a n ice buck. And 1531 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,840 Speaker 1: that's I think the best opportunity to do that. So 1532 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to do. I wish that I 1533 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 1: was like sitting the kill set based off of an 1534 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,120 Speaker 1: observation for the night before. Wish I was in a 1535 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 1: spot where I'm like, oh, yeah, it's gonna absolutely happen. 1536 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, every time we start zero in on something 1537 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 1: that's been blown up and UM, it's just the cards 1538 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 1: we've been dealt. And I guess my takeaway from this 1539 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,120 Speaker 1: whole thing, if I'm looking at what can I learn 1540 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: from this or what can other people learn from this, 1541 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's just the same thing we've said over 1542 01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 1: and over again, the fact that you need a lot 1543 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 1: of backup plans when you're planning a public iDeer hunt 1544 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,559 Speaker 1: like this. You need to go into it being like 1545 01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 1: this is another thing we talked about last week, like 1546 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: think positive, believe in yourself, believe in it, but also 1547 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 1: have plans for the worst, prepare for the worst. And 1548 01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,680 Speaker 1: and we kind of did that. Um, we had a 1549 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,519 Speaker 1: lot of different places, so we've been able to keep 1550 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: on going in new spots. I just wish that I 1551 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 1: had scouted even more and so like so I knew 1552 01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 1: these places like the back of my hand, I don't 1553 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: know them by the back of my hand. So we're 1554 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,000 Speaker 1: learning it all new as we go. And that's inevitably 1555 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 1: tough to do when you're learning and dealing with new 1556 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 1: hunters coming in from every direction all the time. Um. 1557 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 1: So it's been a challenge. It's forced me to probably 1558 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 1: hunt harder in like an eight pay pier than I 1559 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 1: ever have as far as like just like hanging and 1560 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 1: resetting and resetting and hiking like long hikes, like lots 1561 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 1: of long hikes in and out. Um. Yeah, we're definitely 1562 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna have our set up dialed in for Michigan season though, 1563 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 1: yeah said it's gonna feel it's gonna feel like a 1564 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,640 Speaker 1: piece of cake. I should. We've been doing that NonStop, 1565 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,719 Speaker 1: so so you know, that's how it goes. Sometimes we've 1566 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 1: got one more hunt, maybe we'll have that last minute 1567 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,960 Speaker 1: magic and we'll be able to celebrate, or maybe we're 1568 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna go home with no tags filled. Um. It's like, 1569 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm torn on this one. I'm like, very you're very frustrated, 1570 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,880 Speaker 1: upset with it because I really thought we would be 1571 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,720 Speaker 1: able to get it done. I was really confident coming 1572 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,920 Speaker 1: into it. We had a little more time than I 1573 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,439 Speaker 1: usually do on these hunts. I just I couldn't imagine 1574 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 1: the scenario where we'd come home without failing the tags. 1575 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: Everything everything seemed to be lining up pretty well for us, 1576 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,680 Speaker 1: and um, and then just everything went wrong. And what 1577 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,320 Speaker 1: I've what I've tried to do is like over the 1578 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,280 Speaker 1: last day, as I'm like mentally processing all this is, 1579 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,639 Speaker 1: is also remember that when it comes trips like this, 1580 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 1: it all hunting is like this, but especially trips like this, 1581 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 1: you need to be able to take satisfaction out of 1582 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 1: the whole experience, because if you're so dead set on 1583 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 1: just killing a deer on something like this, Like, the 1584 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 1: odds are are stacked against you when you travel two 1585 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: thousand miles from home to a brand new place, uh 1586 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:23,560 Speaker 1: that's hunted by dozens of other people. Apparently, Um, the 1587 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 1: odds are stacked against you. And if we can only 1588 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 1: derive enjoyment out of killing a deer in that situation, 1589 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 1: well then we we probably should have known that we're 1590 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,680 Speaker 1: setting ourselves up for potential failure. UM. So I think 1591 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,280 Speaker 1: when I look at it, I'm not upset that we 1592 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,200 Speaker 1: fished a few times. I'm not upset that we you know, 1593 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,840 Speaker 1: came out here and saw some beautiful country and we 1594 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: saw some nice bucks, and we saw a lot of deer, 1595 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:53,040 Speaker 1: and we saw some moose and we got to you know, 1596 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: explore new places. And it's it's um and it's public. 1597 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 1: It's like here for us, Like, how crazy is that 1598 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 1: that we got to go to this stuff that we 1599 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 1: don't own and I got to enjoy this beautiful, beautiful 1600 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,240 Speaker 1: country and critters and things, and we got to do 1601 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 1: it for basically for free. Um, you can't complain about that. Yeah, No, 1602 01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,679 Speaker 1: it's it's been a great trip, regardless of if we um, 1603 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 1: if we feel a tag tonight or not. You know, 1604 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 1: I've been doing some of the same thing thinking and um, 1605 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the things that I'm 1606 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,680 Speaker 1: proud of us for is that we have adjusted so much. 1607 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,240 Speaker 1: We've stayed positive. Like I don't know, there's probably a 1608 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:30,880 Speaker 1: time in the past where I would have been like, 1609 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 1: screw this, let's go home. You know, I miss my family, 1610 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: I miss home, I got stuff to do. Let's bail 1611 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,639 Speaker 1: on this a couple of days early, or that storms 1612 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,840 Speaker 1: rolling in, let's get out. You know. I think there's 1613 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 1: just there's things that we could have you know, we 1614 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 1: could have packed it up and went home, and we didn't. 1615 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,320 Speaker 1: We kept you know, charging away at it and and 1616 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,639 Speaker 1: being scrappy and trying to find new spots and new 1617 01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 1: deer to hunt and get away from people. And you know, 1618 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 1: it didn't didn't always go in our favor. But I 1619 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 1: think I think we definitely gave it a hell of 1620 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,800 Speaker 1: a shot. Yeah, well gave her hell, that's for sure. 1621 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,240 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, there's our sob story. I hope there 1622 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 1: was something in there, um that's either reassuring to you 1623 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,639 Speaker 1: or comforting to you because you've had the same thing happen, 1624 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: or maybe can help you adapt and put together plan 1625 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 1: for your upcoming hunt. UM, learn from our mistakes, learn 1626 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 1: from our takeaways. UM, set yourself up for a hunt 1627 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,519 Speaker 1: so that you enjoy it and have a successful hunt, 1628 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,320 Speaker 1: regardless of if you feel your tag and uh and 1629 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 1: get out there. Above all, get out there and enjoy 1630 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 1: these places. I don't want to scare you away from 1631 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,920 Speaker 1: going out and trying it out of state hunt or 1632 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 1: trying public land deer hunt. Things happen. It can be tough. 1633 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 1: At the same time, you could also have a hunt 1634 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 1: of the lifetime. You just never know what you're gonna get. 1635 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what makes this thing so special. 1636 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 1: If it was guaranteed, what funds that I know? I yeah, 1637 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's been a heck of a heck 1638 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 1: of a time regardless of what happens. UM, tonight, I 1639 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,639 Speaker 1: do it all again for sure? All right, man, Well, 1640 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 1: I think we should shut it down, wrap this podcast up, 1641 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,120 Speaker 1: and you and we need to go out and have 1642 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:15,519 Speaker 1: one last great hunt. Fingers crossed. What happens? Okay, what's 1643 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: what kind of probability would you put on your success tonight? Josh, 1644 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 1: let's go there, let's go to the flip side. I'm 1645 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 1: I'm saying about one percent. I'm don't have super high hopes, 1646 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,840 Speaker 1: but there's deer. There's a couple of deer that I 1647 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: saw this morning, and I know where I think I 1648 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 1: know where they're going, and just a matter if they'll 1649 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: they'll come back down the canyon and cross the creek again. 1650 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 1: I figure if I go super low percentage, maybe it'll 1651 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,720 Speaker 1: happen on them. There you go. I'm going with twenty 1652 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,640 Speaker 1: percent from my hunt tonight. I'll bought mine up to 1653 01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 1: five percent. All right, So there you guys go. We're 1654 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:54,000 Speaker 1: very excited and feeling optimists tonight. H. Tune in next 1655 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:58,639 Speaker 1: week for the exciting conclusion and uh, until then, thank 1656 01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,640 Speaker 1: you all for listening. Good luck on your hunts. If 1657 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 1: you're out there, enjoy it, have fun, adapt, adjust, persevere, 1658 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 1: and until next time, stay wired to hunt. H.