WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Tick Tick Boom

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The It's too late, It's too soon,

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<v Speaker 1>or is it tick tick tick tick tick tick Boom

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<v Speaker 1>edition as we check in with the greatest leader in

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals history, former NFL MVP Boomer Asiasin. Plus, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>new round of fun facts with Mike Brown. With the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics going on in Tokyo, would it surprise you to

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<v Speaker 1>learn that the last time that Tokyo hosted the Games,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven years ago, Hall of Famer Paul Brown was

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<v Speaker 1>among the spectators. In between his coaching stops in Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>and Cincinnati. I'll discuss that and much more with the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals team president. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest thing since a fast gas pump. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing worse than when you go to fill up your tank,

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze the trigger and the digits on the gas pump

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<v Speaker 1>begin to turn over very slowly. A job you thought

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be quick and easy becomes a pain

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<v Speaker 1>in the you know what. On the flip side, it's

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<v Speaker 1>highly satisfying when you begin filling the tank and those

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<v Speaker 1>numbers start spinning so quickly that you feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to set a world record. I had that experience

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<v Speaker 1>this week at a UDF on Beechmont, av not far

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<v Speaker 1>from the Reeves golf Course. I have dubbed it the

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<v Speaker 1>Usane Bolt of gas pumps. Now, let's get to football.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals open training camp this week and on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>about two hours before taking the field for practice, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow sat down for a TV taping with former Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Boomer Assiasin. The producers of the segment came up

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<v Speaker 1>with a great idea as the two qbs watched and

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<v Speaker 1>discussed each other's game film. I got to listen into

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of it, and I am sure it

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<v Speaker 1>will be a great segment. It will run on Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Football when the Bengals host Jacksonville in Week four.

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<v Speaker 1>This was only the second time that the two of

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<v Speaker 1>them have seen each other in person. The first time

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<v Speaker 1>they met, Boomer, handed Burrow a Cincinnati Helmett and welcomed

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<v Speaker 1>him to the Bengals family on the CBS pregame show

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<v Speaker 1>the day after Joe won the Heisman Trophy. After taping

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<v Speaker 1>their segment for the NFL Network on Thursday, the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight, NFL MVP discussed Burrow with me and my

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Do you believe in an IT

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<v Speaker 1>factor for quarterbacks? And if so, does Joe have it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I do. I absolutely do. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>think I had it, whatever it was, But I know

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<v Speaker 1>what the in factor is. The effect is when you

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<v Speaker 1>walk into the room, there's an immediate respect that it's

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<v Speaker 1>accorded you because of the way you carry yourself you're

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<v Speaker 1>both on the field and in the meeting rooms, and

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<v Speaker 1>your dedication to the sport, and then of course your

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<v Speaker 1>relationships that you have. So think about the way that

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<v Speaker 1>he played last year as a rookie. Think about how

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<v Speaker 1>he handled the offense and everything else. He's making checks

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<v Speaker 1>at the line scrimmage, he's calling for his own number

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<v Speaker 1>on a quarterback draw when he reads a defense. Ebra

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<v Speaker 1>Flews tried to flush him out with his own blitz

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<v Speaker 1>and he stood in there knowing that he had enough

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<v Speaker 1>blockers and hit T Higgins down the sideline. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>things I was incapable of doing. I just faked it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't. You know, he's the real deal. You

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<v Speaker 1>can tell, and you could tell that he has that

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<v Speaker 1>part of it physically, and I think his mental game

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<v Speaker 1>is really about as sharp as you know you would expect.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the first time you met him when when he

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<v Speaker 1>came to CBS for the Heisman Trophy, you know, ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>type deal, the show. What was your first impression of

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<v Speaker 1>What was it about him stood out to you? I

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised how big he was. He didn't look that

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<v Speaker 1>big on TV, maybe because he was playing at LSU

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<v Speaker 1>when he's playing against other big teams and he was

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<v Speaker 1>on a big team himself. But I was shocked at

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<v Speaker 1>how big he was. I thought he was two inches

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than that. And seeing him now from that was

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<v Speaker 1>probably about what eighteen nineteen months ago, maybe twenty months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a man. Now, he's a full fledged man, so

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<v Speaker 1>he looks great, and I know he was dedicated this

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<v Speaker 1>offseason to overcoming the knee injury, which is another part

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<v Speaker 1>of the responsibility of view as a player and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the ultimate leader of the team. So he's dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>himself to be ready to go one hundred percent, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think all the players will respond to that. So

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<v Speaker 1>with a segment you recorded today, that's the longest amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time you've spent with him so far. What stood

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<v Speaker 1>out in that conversation. He's pretty relaxed. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>could do TV right now if he wanted to. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what you just did that one? Take hold on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be that easy. But I guess this

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<v Speaker 1>generation's a little bit more advanced than our generation is.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows his stuff. You know, he knows his players,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows where credit needs to be given. You could

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<v Speaker 1>tell that. You know, he wasn't sitting there extolling his

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<v Speaker 1>own virtues. He was talking about a center. He's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about his wide receiver, talking about his running back. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at this block here by this offensive tackle. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>so he loves his coaches and you could tell that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that part of him that is the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>question mark for every coaching staff and every organization is

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<v Speaker 1>easibly answered and he has it. He definitely has it.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that a trait that you and he have

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<v Speaker 1>in common. In my opinion, you both have unbelievable people skills,

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<v Speaker 1>and you make everybody feel important, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not one guy that's involved in the mix that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't make feel like he's the most important guy

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<v Speaker 1>and his contribution is the most important. That's a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a talent to have. Hell yeah, it is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most important talent. Especially when you're in a huddle

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<v Speaker 1>with ten guys games on the line, They're looking at you.

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<v Speaker 1>They know whether or not you have what it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to call the right play, to get the team into

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<v Speaker 1>the right play, to make sure you have the right

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<v Speaker 1>pass protection, communicating with your other ten players within five

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<v Speaker 1>second sound bites at the line of scrimmage, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>be hand signals, whether it be yelling something at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of your lungs, but just generally leading your football team.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's an attribute that you want to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to check the boxes of a player. So he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the size, he's got the arm strength, he can run,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he has the most important aspect to who

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<v Speaker 1>he is, and that's the dedication to the game that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else feeds off of. But he does it in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that is not condescending, which is really important

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<v Speaker 1>for a leader to carry himself that way. So, if

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<v Speaker 1>I know one thing, he's a better player than I

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<v Speaker 1>ever was already. You know, I can see it. Really, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it, and he's a much more accurate

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<v Speaker 1>pastor than I was. But he's also fearless. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to throw the ball down the field, which is

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<v Speaker 1>in today's game, is going to be valuable for them

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward and to be successful. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be. He'll be in the running for Comeback

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year. I believe even though he played

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<v Speaker 1>ten games, he's still got hurt. He's still had to

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<v Speaker 1>overcome an injury here this offseason, and I think they

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<v Speaker 1>have like an underrated, sneaky kind of talent here. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to sit here and tell you they're going

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and five, but I think that you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the mix because these other teams

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<v Speaker 1>in this division aren't perfect. They all have scars or

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<v Speaker 1>wartz somewhere along the line. And you know, Cleveland is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best team, I think, but that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that Cincinnati can't sneak up on them as well. Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson told me last week that Burrow is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be better than he ever was. You're saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>already is. I think that might be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an exaggeration, but that's pretty extraordinary that the two

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<v Speaker 1>best quarterbacks in this franchise's history have seen a guy

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<v Speaker 1>play ten games at the NFL level and are already

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<v Speaker 1>saying those types of things. Well, the only reason I

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<v Speaker 1>said that is because Carson Palmer told me that. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's another one. You know, Jordan worked with Joe a

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<v Speaker 1>lot when he was coming out in college, and Carson

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<v Speaker 1>told me, Boomer, this kid is great and he was

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<v Speaker 1>not wishing for the Bengals to draft him. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there going, wait a minute, he's from this area,

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<v Speaker 1>that he's this is the perfect guy for this team,

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<v Speaker 1>can't miss. And I think we all think that because, look,

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<v Speaker 1>he won a Heisman, won the national championship, so his

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<v Speaker 1>arc of success is far ahead of where we were

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<v Speaker 1>at this time in our and our careers. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's why we all feel this way. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing to feel this way. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pressure on the young man, but he seems

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<v Speaker 1>like to absorb it. Seems like he absorbs it very

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<v Speaker 1>well and probably fuels him to be even greater, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully he does. Oh, we all want a Super Bowl championship.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be great, and maybe that would kick off

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<v Speaker 1>this whole new kind of reflecting back on the great

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<v Speaker 1>players of this organization, which has been long overdue. When

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<v Speaker 1>I played in the seventies and eighties, the game was

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<v Speaker 1>one way. When you guys were playing in the late

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<v Speaker 1>eighties and into the nineties, that Super Bowl era, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot different. How different is today's game from

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<v Speaker 1>when you played? More wide open now than ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the rules are such where offenses really need

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to throw the ball down the field

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<v Speaker 1>to big, wide receivers, and this is exactly what the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have. They're loaded at these positions. Jamar Chase, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has a potential to be a Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how good. You know. I think that this team

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<v Speaker 1>can be offensively, especially with Joe and Jamar in their

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<v Speaker 1>history at LSU. But you know, back an hour day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was more run oriented. I still think

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<v Speaker 1>you have to run the ball effectively. You still have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a more physical team than the team you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing against. You can only especially in outdoor weather stadiums

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<v Speaker 1>like we have at Paul Brown Stadium. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to run the football. It can't always be

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<v Speaker 1>about throwing the ball forty five times and completing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thirty five passes for four hundred yards, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna up losing those games if the other team

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<v Speaker 1>is controlling the football. So I think there still has

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<v Speaker 1>to be balanced, but there's definitely an uptick in the

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<v Speaker 1>big play capabilities of the offense since we were playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Final question for me, what do you think the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>challenge is he faces coming back from his knee injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trusting that he's one hundred percent, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of times he gets hit. I'm sure every

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<v Speaker 1>running back will tell you that, every wide receiver will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that. Anybody who's ever played and had a

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury, we'll tell you that. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be trusting that it's stable and that he can that

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<v Speaker 1>he can take a hit. I think he feels pretty

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable about it just talking to him, but that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing, and I bet you he's itching to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the field. You know, he sat there and

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<v Speaker 1>he told me he watched all of Justin Herbert's games

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<v Speaker 1>and how much fun it was to watch Justin Herbert.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to be that guy again, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>he can't wait to get back on the field. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to be ready and rare to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be fun to watch. A quick question,

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<v Speaker 1>I have one more follow up to what you're talking about. Hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has boxes to check after surgery and getting a hit,

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<v Speaker 1>that one hit is the final one. Get up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. Do you think he should play in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like he wants to take some snaps in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason in the organization doesn't want any part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you think? You know? I

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<v Speaker 1>think I would think like him. I'd want to play.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to play in the preseason. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get hit. I wanted to feel the rush of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the game didn't mean anything. You're still out

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<v Speaker 1>there with your teammates. You're calling your plays, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they may be the most basic of plays, but you

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<v Speaker 1>still want to feel like you can go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and do it and I hope they let him play

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. I'm not saying that they. I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>the third preseason game any starters playing, so it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the second preseason game. I would think

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<v Speaker 1>at least give him a couple series, or give him

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter, or give him two quarters, and just let

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<v Speaker 1>him wet his feet, let him know that that need's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and let him take some hits. I mean, it's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, that's part of the whole situation. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been out now for what eight months? I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there are nine months, yeah, nine months, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's he's ready to go. And he's not a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a quarterback, and you know he needs to feel

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure and feel the pocket and live hitting. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I would want him to play. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I would want to play me too. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's the same thing as a players all want

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<v Speaker 1>to They want to get before the regular season starts.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to take that hit and get up and

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<v Speaker 1>say final box checked. Everything's good. All right. My last question,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't talk to you without talking about Gunner and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all Dad's here. What you've done as a father

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<v Speaker 1>chokes me up. I mean, it's unbelievable. And your son,

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<v Speaker 1>you've extended his life, You've given him a better quality

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<v Speaker 1>of life. He just got married. I mean, Boomer, it's

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable what you've done. You know, I will tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably my proudest moment is watching him walk down

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<v Speaker 1>the aisle. But right prior to that, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't know that it was on Father's Day weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they set that up. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really sure because Darcy, his wife, is really close with

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<v Speaker 1>her dad as well. And the Thursday night before the wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>he and Darcy handed me my Father's Day gift and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a sonogram in a plexiglass frame, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>started bawling. I've never been so emotional in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And the interesting thing about Gunner, because of cystic fibrosis,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to be the biological father, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to go in and they have to take your sperm

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<v Speaker 1>out of your testicles, which is not a very which

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<v Speaker 1>is not easy at all. But you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to do this and he is and obviously is dedicated,

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife was going through ivy app on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side for the woman, which is not easy either,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had to go through all the genetic testing

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else. And they had four eggs. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always saying this publicly because they've written about it and

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<v Speaker 1>they've talked about it. They placed one end, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know whether it was going to be male or female,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after four about four months, they found out

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a baby boy. And I've always said

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<v Speaker 1>this about everything that I've ever done in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of the fibrosis, that my only two goals are one

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<v Speaker 1>that my son outlived me in the second is that

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes a father himself. And when they handed me

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<v Speaker 1>that thing, I just I couldn't talk. My daughter was

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<v Speaker 1>laughing at me, and that whole weekend was like a

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<v Speaker 1>blur to me. And it's everything that I could have

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<v Speaker 1>ever asked for. That is tremendous. Yeah, this is such

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<v Speaker 1>a treat. Thank you so much for your time. We

0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.280
<v Speaker 1>always appreciate it. It's fun. It's fun to see you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Since its inception, the Boomeris Siasin Foundation has raised more

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<v Speaker 1>than one hundred and fifteen million dollars to support research

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<v Speaker 1>toward a cure for cystic fibrosis. As well as programs

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<v Speaker 1>directly benefiting the cf community. The Bengals Booth podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with

0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a hint of fruit flavor. At the beginning of the week,

0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.880
<v Speaker 1>just before training camp got under way, the Bengals held

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<v Speaker 1>their annual media luncheon, where Zach Taylor and his coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>discussed the upcoming season with Cincinnati area reporters. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>the one time each year the team president Mike Brown

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<v Speaker 1>does an extensive series of interviews, including a few offbeat

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<v Speaker 1>questions from me. Time for a new round of fun

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<v Speaker 1>Facts with Bengals President Mike Brown and Mike As we

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<v Speaker 1>record this interview, the Olympics are going on in Tokyo.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time the games were there in nineteen sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>your father wasn't coaching at the time, and he attended.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever talk to him about him making that trip,

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<v Speaker 1>what events he watched, people he met, etc. I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was very impressed with the nation of Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>He came back and said how ordered and cleanly everything was,

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<v Speaker 1>the people were. They behaved towards visitors in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that you would want. They won him over and he

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy was in the service during World War Two,

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<v Speaker 1>so that just speaks to the Japanese nation. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixty four Summer Olympics. In sixty eight, Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>Smith won the gold medal in the two hundred meters

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<v Speaker 1>and famously did a Black Power salute on the metal

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<v Speaker 1>podium with bronze medalist John Carlos. Shortly after that, Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>joined the Bengals and he was with this franchise for

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<v Speaker 1>three years. His only catch went for forty one yards

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<v Speaker 1>and he dislocated his shoulder on that play. What are

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<v Speaker 1>your memories of Tommy Smith? I remember him fondly. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a nice young man. He was the fastest sprinter

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<v Speaker 1>in the world at the time, but oddly in football,

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<v Speaker 1>speed is majored in a shorter distance and his takeoff

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<v Speaker 1>was not as fast his ending spurt, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>which was phenomenal. Once he got up and running, he

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<v Speaker 1>had this mammoth stride and he just ran away from people.

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<v Speaker 1>But over forty yards we had a number of players

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<v Speaker 1>who could match him, and that was something that registered

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<v Speaker 1>with me because it showed how quickness counts in football

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<v Speaker 1>we believed at the time, and I believe still that

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<v Speaker 1>people have the right to have their say. He did

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<v Speaker 1>what he did. I don't know how much planning went

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<v Speaker 1>into it, but it made such an impact. It was incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't seem hostile. It was more a statement

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<v Speaker 1>about we're here, part of everything, don't forget us. I

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<v Speaker 1>took it in that sense, and I can say is

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<v Speaker 1>once more as a person. He was a wonderful young man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you love baseball and watch Red's games regularly.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any other sports that you enjoy watching the NBA, golf,

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics, anything else? Pretty much anything I like watching sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I watch golf. I find those guys incredible. The pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on them is just something that has to be seen

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<v Speaker 1>to believe, and they have to bear up under it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do. I watch the NBA games. My prospective

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<v Speaker 1>grandson in law affiliated with the NBA basketball and he

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<v Speaker 1>on occasions tolerates my questions and helps me understand what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. But they're incredible athletes. They have this huge

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<v Speaker 1>ability to run, jump, shoot at the far out distances.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they do it. They're fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun Facts with Bengals President Mike Brown the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Indians are in the news for choosing a new name,

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<v Speaker 1>the Guardians. The Browns, of course, were named for your father.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he like that or did it make him a

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<v Speaker 1>little uncomfortable? This one will amaze you. I never talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him about it, and as far as I know,

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<v Speaker 1>neither did anybody else. It was a dead topic what

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<v Speaker 1>the name was. And I do know that there were

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<v Speaker 1>suggestions by some that it was named after Joe Lewis,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brown Bomber, and I don't think so. As all

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<v Speaker 1>I can say there, the story was that they ran

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<v Speaker 1>a contest in a Cleveland paper to name the team,

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<v Speaker 1>and they came out with the name Panthers as the winner.

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<v Speaker 1>My father felt that Panthers had already been taken by

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Pittsburgh and he didn't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>the same name. Then they paid the guy the award

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<v Speaker 1>for picking the winner and chose another winner instead, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did that. And if you find out, let me

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<v Speaker 1>know why. Once Cinnati got a franchise, was there any

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<v Speaker 1>talk of taking the Brown's name in Cincinnati. Well, it

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:10.360
<v Speaker 1>was in Cleveland at the time, obviously, and what happened

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<v Speaker 1>there was unlike what happened in Cleveland recently with the Indians,

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<v Speaker 1>where they had some sort of massive study to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with the name Guardians for the future. You can

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<v Speaker 1>say that's a great choice or not, but ours was

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<v Speaker 1>very simple. There was a luncheon. It was my father

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<v Speaker 1>and John Sawyer. Dave Gamble was there and that was it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they discussed how to name the team, and my

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<v Speaker 1>dad said, well, someone thought we should name it the

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<v Speaker 1>Rhinos because that would tie into the German background in Cincinnati. Rhine,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's an animal, big and powerful. And my dad

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<v Speaker 1>said his sister, my aunt had called him and told him, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you do, don't name that team the Rhinos. A

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<v Speaker 1>rhino is a big, dumb, slow animal, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want your team known in that way. So they settled

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<v Speaker 1>on Tiger. John and Dave both went to Princeton. That

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<v Speaker 1>was all right with them. My dad said it was

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<v Speaker 1>all right with him. He had coached the masslind Tigers

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<v Speaker 1>for nine years and he said, I know how to

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<v Speaker 1>use that kind of symbol. And since I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a vote and was just sitting there, I said nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how the name came to be. Among your

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<v Speaker 1>father's many innovations was the use of game film as

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<v Speaker 1>a teaching tool. You rarely miss a practice. I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>What about watching game film? Is that something that you enjoy? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I am curious about it. I take time to look

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<v Speaker 1>at our game film. I do it after every game,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I go home. It satisfies curiosity. You build

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 1>up false ideas of what really happened, and then when

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 1>you run it back and forth a few times and

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>look at it closely, the reality of it comes across

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<v Speaker 1>and you accept it for what it is. I am

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 1>astonished anymore at how quickly we have that available. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a nice thing. In my book, Seattle coach Pete Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>turns seventy in September, Bill Belichick is sixty nine. Your

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<v Speaker 1>father was sixty seven when he retired, and the team

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<v Speaker 1>won eleven and three in his final season. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>best winning percentage in franchise history. Why did he stop

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>at sixty seven? And did you try to talk him

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>out of it? Believe me, I would not have tried

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<v Speaker 1>to talk him out of anything that he had decided

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It would have just said yes, sir and

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<v Speaker 1>marched on. He called me over and told me he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to retire as a coach. He thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was time. He was aware of some other guys who

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<v Speaker 1>were active and he thought stayed too long and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to just front. It was the term he used,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a decision that he wrestled with, but

0:24:56.480 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 1>he felt it was proper time and did what he

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>thought was best for him, his reputation, and for the

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>team's future. We had good people. We had Bill Johnson

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and Bill Walsh as coaches on the team. We had

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>people to turn to. This is the anniversary of the

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty one Super Bowl team, and if you pulled

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 1>fans on the greatest game in Bengals history, the overwhelming

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>winning answer would be the Freezer Bowl January of eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Air temperature nine below windshill fifty nine below, beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers to go to the Super Bowl. San Diego owner

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<v Speaker 1>Gene Kleine tried to get you to move that game

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<v Speaker 1>to San Diego. Correct. Yes, he ran into me upstairs

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<v Speaker 1>in the press box area close to it and had

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<v Speaker 1>this good idea of postponing the game and moving it

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<v Speaker 1>to San Diego because it was so cold. No one

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<v Speaker 1>should win to have a game in this temperature should they.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an easy one for me. We saw that

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<v Speaker 1>as a considerable advantage. We were able to play in

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that kind of weather. It fit us. They had fouts,

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<v Speaker 1>the top quarterback who probably would have played better in

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<v Speaker 1>the sunshine. It was something that amused me at the

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<v Speaker 1>time and still does. But I don't fought him for asking.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't hurt to ask, that's for sure. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have any issues that day along the lines of did

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<v Speaker 1>your car start, did the pipes freeze at riverfront? Anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that? Well, we went through a cold time in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know much about weather, but for two or

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<v Speaker 1>three years around that Super Bowl year, the weather was

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<v Speaker 1>just The winners were just colder than here, a colder

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<v Speaker 1>here than they have been otherwise ear in my lifetime here.

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<v Speaker 1>And you got used to things. You really did the

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<v Speaker 1>kid icicles in the living room. But that he would, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just phenomenally cold, day in and day out.

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<v Speaker 1>To his credit Forrest, Greg was our coach and he

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<v Speaker 1>had played up at Green Bay. That was his background,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did not give into the cold, and he

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<v Speaker 1>would not allow the players to give into the cold.

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<v Speaker 1>We practiced just as normal, We did everything just as

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<v Speaker 1>though it were sunny and eighty degrees, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a leadership he generated on that that our players began

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<v Speaker 1>to see it as an advantage, something that they could manage,

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<v Speaker 1>and whoever we were going to play would have problems with.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they were right on that. You and

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<v Speaker 1>Forrest were great friends. You and your wives socialized together.

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<v Speaker 1>What would people be surprised to learn about Forrest greg Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was seen as a big, strong guy, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was that, and he was seen as a tough guy,

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<v Speaker 1>a demanding With the football team, he was that, but

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<v Speaker 1>away from the football team, in private, he was just

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<v Speaker 1>a big pussy cat. He was a wonderful guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>really delighted in his company. I loved the guy. We

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<v Speaker 1>were good friends when he was here, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>back in those times with great fondness. You've said before

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<v Speaker 1>you consider that eighty one team to be the best

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<v Speaker 1>Enfranchise history. What was it about that team that makes

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<v Speaker 1>you feel that way. Oh, we had all the pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were ahead of the curve and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we did head of the wave. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of both. We had a good quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Anderson. There wasn't much lacking on that team. So

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<v Speaker 1>when we lined up against people, we were confident, and

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately in the Super Bowl we lost to the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers. I honestly think we were the better team.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that. It just I still feel that we

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<v Speaker 1>fumbled the ball away. Things happened, but if we played

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<v Speaker 1>them ten times, I still believe we would have won

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of them. This has been a treat As always,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Okay, I

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