1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The It's too late, It's too soon, 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: or is it tick tick tick tick tick tick Boom 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: edition as we check in with the greatest leader in 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Bengals history, former NFL MVP Boomer Asiasin. Plus, it's a 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: new round of fun facts with Mike Brown. With the 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Olympics going on in Tokyo, would it surprise you to 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: learn that the last time that Tokyo hosted the Games, 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: fifty seven years ago, Hall of Famer Paul Brown was 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: among the spectators. In between his coaching stops in Cleveland 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati. I'll discuss that and much more with the 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: Bengals team president. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by 13 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: bud Light. Seltzer Refreshed the Game and here's a quick 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: reminder that you can have the latest edition of this 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing since a fast gas pump. There's 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: nothing worse than when you go to fill up your tank, 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: squeeze the trigger and the digits on the gas pump 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: begin to turn over very slowly. A job you thought 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: was going to be quick and easy becomes a pain 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: in the you know what. On the flip side, it's 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: highly satisfying when you begin filling the tank and those 24 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: numbers start spinning so quickly that you feel like you're 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: about to set a world record. I had that experience 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: this week at a UDF on Beechmont, av not far 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: from the Reeves golf Course. I have dubbed it the 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Usane Bolt of gas pumps. Now, let's get to football. 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: The Bengals open training camp this week and on Thursday, 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: about two hours before taking the field for practice, Joe 31 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Burrow sat down for a TV taping with former Bengals 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: quarterback Boomer Assiasin. The producers of the segment came up 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: with a great idea as the two qbs watched and 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: discussed each other's game film. I got to listen into 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: quite a bit of it, and I am sure it 36 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: will be a great segment. It will run on Thursday 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: Night Football when the Bengals host Jacksonville in Week four. 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: This was only the second time that the two of 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: them have seen each other in person. The first time 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: they met, Boomer, handed Burrow a Cincinnati Helmett and welcomed 41 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: him to the Bengals family on the CBS pregame show 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: the day after Joe won the Heisman Trophy. After taping 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: their segment for the NFL Network on Thursday, the nineteen 44 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: eighty eight, NFL MVP discussed Burrow with me and my 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Do you believe in an IT 46 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: factor for quarterbacks? And if so, does Joe have it? Yeah? 47 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, I do. I absolutely do. I'd like to 48 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: think I had it, whatever it was, But I know 49 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: what the in factor is. The effect is when you 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: walk into the room, there's an immediate respect that it's 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: accorded you because of the way you carry yourself you're 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: both on the field and in the meeting rooms, and 53 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: your dedication to the sport, and then of course your 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: relationships that you have. So think about the way that 55 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: he played last year as a rookie. Think about how 56 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: he handled the offense and everything else. He's making checks 57 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: at the line scrimmage, he's calling for his own number 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: on a quarterback draw when he reads a defense. Ebra 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: Flews tried to flush him out with his own blitz 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: and he stood in there knowing that he had enough 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: blockers and hit T Higgins down the sideline. Those are 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: things I was incapable of doing. I just faked it. 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: But he doesn't. You know, he's the real deal. You 64 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: can tell, and you could tell that he has that 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: part of it physically, and I think his mental game 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: is really about as sharp as you know you would expect. 67 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: What's the first time you met him when when he 68 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: came to CBS for the Heisman Trophy, you know, ceremony 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: type deal, the show. What was your first impression of 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: What was it about him stood out to you? I 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: was surprised how big he was. He didn't look that 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: big on TV, maybe because he was playing at LSU 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: when he's playing against other big teams and he was 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: on a big team himself. But I was shocked at 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: how big he was. I thought he was two inches 76 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: smaller than that. And seeing him now from that was 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: probably about what eighteen nineteen months ago, maybe twenty months ago. 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: He's a man. Now, he's a full fledged man, so 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: he looks great, and I know he was dedicated this 80 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: offseason to overcoming the knee injury, which is another part 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: of the responsibility of view as a player and of 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: course the ultimate leader of the team. So he's dedicated 83 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: himself to be ready to go one hundred percent, and 84 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: I think all the players will respond to that. So 85 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: with a segment you recorded today, that's the longest amount 86 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: of time you've spent with him so far. What stood 87 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: out in that conversation. He's pretty relaxed. I mean, he 88 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: could do TV right now if he wanted to. I'm like, 89 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: what you just did that one? Take hold on. It's 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: not supposed to be that easy. But I guess this 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: generation's a little bit more advanced than our generation is. 92 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: He knows his stuff. You know, he knows his players, 93 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: he knows where credit needs to be given. You could 94 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: tell that. You know, he wasn't sitting there extolling his 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: own virtues. He was talking about a center. He's talking 96 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: about his wide receiver, talking about his running back. Look 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: at this block here by this offensive tackle. I mean, 98 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: so he loves his coaches and you could tell that. 99 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: You know that part of him that is the biggest 100 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: question mark for every coaching staff and every organization is 101 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: easibly answered and he has it. He definitely has it. 102 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: The thing that a trait that you and he have 103 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: in common. In my opinion, you both have unbelievable people skills, 104 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: and you make everybody feel important, you know. I mean, 105 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: there's not one guy that's involved in the mix that 106 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: you don't make feel like he's the most important guy 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: and his contribution is the most important. That's a hell 108 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: of a talent to have. Hell yeah, it is probably 109 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: the most important talent. Especially when you're in a huddle 110 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: with ten guys games on the line, They're looking at you. 111 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: They know whether or not you have what it takes 112 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: to call the right play, to get the team into 113 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: the right play, to make sure you have the right 114 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: pass protection, communicating with your other ten players within five 115 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: second sound bites at the line of scrimmage, whether it 116 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: be hand signals, whether it be yelling something at the 117 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: top of your lungs, but just generally leading your football team. 118 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: So it's an attribute that you want to be able 119 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: to check the boxes of a player. So he's got 120 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: the size, he's got the arm strength, he can run, 121 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: and now he has the most important aspect to who 122 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: he is, and that's the dedication to the game that 123 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: everybody else feeds off of. But he does it in 124 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: a way that is not condescending, which is really important 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: for a leader to carry himself that way. So, if 126 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: I know one thing, he's a better player than I 127 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: ever was already. You know, I can see it. Really, yes, 128 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: I do think it, and he's a much more accurate 129 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: pastor than I was. But he's also fearless. He's not 130 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: afraid to throw the ball down the field, which is 131 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: in today's game, is going to be valuable for them 132 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: to move forward and to be successful. I think he's 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: going to be. He'll be in the running for Comeback 134 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. I believe even though he played 135 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: ten games, he's still got hurt. He's still had to 136 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: overcome an injury here this offseason, and I think they 137 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: have like an underrated, sneaky kind of talent here. I'm 138 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: not going to sit here and tell you they're going 139 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: twelve and five, but I think that you know, they're 140 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: going to be in the mix because these other teams 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: in this division aren't perfect. They all have scars or 142 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: wartz somewhere along the line. And you know, Cleveland is 143 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: probably the best team, I think, but that doesn't mean 144 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: that Cincinnati can't sneak up on them as well. Ken 145 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Anderson told me last week that Burrow is going to 146 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: be better than he ever was. You're saying that he 147 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: already is. I think that might be a little bit 148 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: of an exaggeration, but that's pretty extraordinary that the two 149 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in this franchise's history have seen a guy 150 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: play ten games at the NFL level and are already 151 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: saying those types of things. Well, the only reason I 152 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: said that is because Carson Palmer told me that. And 153 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: he's another one. You know, Jordan worked with Joe a 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: lot when he was coming out in college, and Carson 155 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: told me, Boomer, this kid is great and he was 156 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: not wishing for the Bengals to draft him. And I'm 157 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: sitting there going, wait a minute, he's from this area, 158 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: that he's this is the perfect guy for this team, 159 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: can't miss. And I think we all think that because, look, 160 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: he won a Heisman, won the national championship, so his 161 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: arc of success is far ahead of where we were 162 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: at this time in our and our careers. And I 163 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: think that's why we all feel this way. So it's 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: it's a good thing to feel this way. There's a 165 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the young man, but he seems 166 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: like to absorb it. Seems like he absorbs it very 167 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: well and probably fuels him to be even greater, and 168 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: hopefully he does. Oh, we all want a Super Bowl championship. 169 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: That would be great, and maybe that would kick off 170 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: this whole new kind of reflecting back on the great 171 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: players of this organization, which has been long overdue. When 172 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: I played in the seventies and eighties, the game was 173 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: one way. When you guys were playing in the late 174 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: eighties and into the nineties, that Super Bowl era, it 175 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: was a lot different. How different is today's game from 176 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: when you played? More wide open now than ever before. 177 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, the rules are such where offenses really need 178 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: to be able to throw the ball down the field 179 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: to big, wide receivers, and this is exactly what the 180 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: Bengals have. They're loaded at these positions. Jamar Chase, you know, 181 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: has a potential to be a Rookie of the Year. 182 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: That's how good. You know. I think that this team 183 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: can be offensively, especially with Joe and Jamar in their 184 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: history at LSU. But you know, back an hour day, 185 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, it was more run oriented. I still think 186 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: you have to run the ball effectively. You still have 187 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: to be a more physical team than the team you're 188 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: playing against. You can only especially in outdoor weather stadiums 189 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: like we have at Paul Brown Stadium. You have to 190 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: be able to run the football. It can't always be 191 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: about throwing the ball forty five times and completing you know, 192 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, thirty five passes for four hundred yards, because 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna up losing those games if the other team 194 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: is controlling the football. So I think there still has 195 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: to be balanced, but there's definitely an uptick in the 196 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: big play capabilities of the offense since we were playing. 197 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: Final question for me, what do you think the biggest 198 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: challenge is he faces coming back from his knee injury. 199 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: Just trusting that he's one hundred percent, you know that 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: first couple of times he gets hit. I'm sure every 201 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: running back will tell you that, every wide receiver will 202 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: tell you that. Anybody who's ever played and had a 203 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: knee injury, we'll tell you that. So it's going to 204 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: be trusting that it's stable and that he can that 205 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: he can take a hit. I think he feels pretty 206 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: comfortable about it just talking to him, but that's probably 207 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: the biggest thing, and I bet you he's itching to 208 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: get on the field. You know, he sat there and 209 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: he told me he watched all of Justin Herbert's games 210 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: and how much fun it was to watch Justin Herbert. 211 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: He wants to be that guy again, and I know 212 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: he can't wait to get back on the field. So 213 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be ready and rare to go, 214 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be fun to watch. A quick question, 215 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: I have one more follow up to what you're talking about. Hit. 216 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: Everybody has boxes to check after surgery and getting a hit, 217 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: that one hit is the final one. Get up. Yeah, 218 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm good. Do you think he should play in the preseason. 219 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: He seems like he wants to take some snaps in 220 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: the preseason in the organization doesn't want any part of it. 221 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think? You know? I 222 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: think I would think like him. I'd want to play. 223 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to play in the preseason. I wanted to 224 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: get hit. I wanted to feel the rush of the game, 225 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: even though the game didn't mean anything. You're still out 226 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: there with your teammates. You're calling your plays, even though 227 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: they may be the most basic of plays, but you 228 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: still want to feel like you can go out there 229 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: and do it and I hope they let him play 230 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: at some point. I'm not saying that they. I doubt 231 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: the third preseason game any starters playing, so it's probably 232 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: going to be the second preseason game. I would think 233 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: at least give him a couple series, or give him 234 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: a quarter, or give him two quarters, and just let 235 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: him wet his feet, let him know that that need's okay, 236 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: and let him take some hits. I mean, it's part 237 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: of the game, that's part of the whole situation. And look, 238 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: he's been out now for what eight months? I guess 239 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: there are nine months, yeah, nine months, So I think 240 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: it's he's ready to go. And he's not a running back, 241 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: he's a quarterback, and you know he needs to feel 242 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: the pressure and feel the pocket and live hitting. So 243 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: that's why I would want him to play. And I 244 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: know that I would want to play me too. I 245 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: mean that's the same thing as a players all want 246 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: to They want to get before the regular season starts. 247 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: You want to take that hit and get up and 248 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: say final box checked. Everything's good. All right. My last question, 249 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: I can't talk to you without talking about Gunner and 250 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: we're all Dad's here. What you've done as a father 251 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: chokes me up. I mean, it's unbelievable. And your son, 252 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: you've extended his life, You've given him a better quality 253 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: of life. He just got married. I mean, Boomer, it's 254 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: unbelievable what you've done. You know, I will tell you. 255 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: It's probably my proudest moment is watching him walk down 256 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: the aisle. But right prior to that, a lot of 257 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: people didn't know that it was on Father's Day weekend. 258 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if they set that up. I'm not 259 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: really sure because Darcy, his wife, is really close with 260 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: her dad as well. And the Thursday night before the wedding, 261 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: he and Darcy handed me my Father's Day gift and 262 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: it was a sonogram in a plexiglass frame, and I've 263 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: started bawling. I've never been so emotional in my life. 264 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: And the interesting thing about Gunner, because of cystic fibrosis, 265 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: if you want to be the biological father, they have 266 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: to go in and they have to take your sperm 267 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: out of your testicles, which is not a very which 268 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: is not easy at all. But you have to be 269 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: dedicated to do this and he is and obviously is dedicated, 270 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: and his wife was going through ivy app on the 271 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: other side for the woman, which is not easy either, 272 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: and they had to go through all the genetic testing 273 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: and everything else. And they had four eggs. And I'm 274 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: always saying this publicly because they've written about it and 275 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: they've talked about it. They placed one end, they didn't 276 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: know whether it was going to be male or female, 277 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: and then after four about four months, they found out 278 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: that it was a baby boy. And I've always said 279 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: this about everything that I've ever done in the world 280 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: of the fibrosis, that my only two goals are one 281 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: that my son outlived me in the second is that 282 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: he becomes a father himself. And when they handed me 283 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: that thing, I just I couldn't talk. My daughter was 284 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: laughing at me, and that whole weekend was like a 285 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: blur to me. And it's everything that I could have 286 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: ever asked for. That is tremendous. Yeah, this is such 287 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: a treat. Thank you so much for your time. We 288 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: always appreciate it. It's fun. It's fun to see you guys. 289 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: Since its inception, the Boomeris Siasin Foundation has raised more 290 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: than one hundred and fifteen million dollars to support research 291 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: toward a cure for cystic fibrosis. As well as programs 292 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: directly benefiting the cf community. The Bengals Booth podcast is 293 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with 294 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: a hint of fruit flavor. At the beginning of the week, 295 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: just before training camp got under way, the Bengals held 296 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: their annual media luncheon, where Zach Taylor and his coordinators 297 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: discussed the upcoming season with Cincinnati area reporters. It's also 298 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: the one time each year the team president Mike Brown 299 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: does an extensive series of interviews, including a few offbeat 300 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: questions from me. Time for a new round of fun 301 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: Facts with Bengals President Mike Brown and Mike As we 302 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: record this interview, the Olympics are going on in Tokyo. 303 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: The last time the games were there in nineteen sixty four, 304 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: your father wasn't coaching at the time, and he attended. 305 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Did you ever talk to him about him making that trip, 306 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: what events he watched, people he met, etc. I did, 307 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: and he was very impressed with the nation of Japan. 308 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: He came back and said how ordered and cleanly everything was, 309 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: the people were. They behaved towards visitors in a way 310 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: that you would want. They won him over and he 311 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: was a guy was in the service during World War Two, 312 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: so that just speaks to the Japanese nation. That was 313 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty four Summer Olympics. In sixty eight, Tommy 314 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Smith won the gold medal in the two hundred meters 315 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: and famously did a Black Power salute on the metal 316 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: podium with bronze medalist John Carlos. Shortly after that, Tommy 317 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: joined the Bengals and he was with this franchise for 318 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: three years. His only catch went for forty one yards 319 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: and he dislocated his shoulder on that play. What are 320 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: your memories of Tommy Smith? I remember him fondly. He 321 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: was a nice young man. He was the fastest sprinter 322 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: in the world at the time, but oddly in football, 323 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: speed is majored in a shorter distance and his takeoff 324 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: was not as fast his ending spurt, if you will, 325 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: which was phenomenal. Once he got up and running, he 326 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: had this mammoth stride and he just ran away from people. 327 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: But over forty yards we had a number of players 328 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: who could match him, and that was something that registered 329 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: with me because it showed how quickness counts in football 330 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: we believed at the time, and I believe still that 331 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: people have the right to have their say. He did 332 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: what he did. I don't know how much planning went 333 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: into it, but it made such an impact. It was incredible, 334 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: but it didn't seem hostile. It was more a statement 335 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: about we're here, part of everything, don't forget us. I 336 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: took it in that sense, and I can say is 337 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: once more as a person. He was a wonderful young man. 338 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: I know you love baseball and watch Red's games regularly. 339 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: Are there any other sports that you enjoy watching the NBA, golf, 340 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: the Olympics, anything else? Pretty much anything I like watching sports. 341 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I watch golf. I find those guys incredible. The pressure 342 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: on them is just something that has to be seen 343 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: to believe, and they have to bear up under it, 344 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: and they do. I watch the NBA games. My prospective 345 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: grandson in law affiliated with the NBA basketball and he 346 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: on occasions tolerates my questions and helps me understand what's 347 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: going on. But they're incredible athletes. They have this huge 348 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: ability to run, jump, shoot at the far out distances. 349 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it. They're fun to watch. 350 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: We're doing fun Facts with Bengals President Mike Brown the 351 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland Indians are in the news for choosing a new name, 352 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: the Guardians. The Browns, of course, were named for your father. 353 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Did he like that or did it make him a 354 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: little uncomfortable? This one will amaze you. I never talked 355 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: to him about it, and as far as I know, 356 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: neither did anybody else. It was a dead topic what 357 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: the name was. And I do know that there were 358 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: suggestions by some that it was named after Joe Lewis, 359 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: the Brown Bomber, and I don't think so. As all 360 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: I can say there, the story was that they ran 361 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: a contest in a Cleveland paper to name the team, 362 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: and they came out with the name Panthers as the winner. 363 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: My father felt that Panthers had already been taken by 364 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: the University of Pittsburgh and he didn't want to have 365 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: the same name. Then they paid the guy the award 366 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: for picking the winner and chose another winner instead, and 367 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: he did that. And if you find out, let me 368 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: know why. Once Cinnati got a franchise, was there any 369 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: talk of taking the Brown's name in Cincinnati. Well, it 370 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: was in Cleveland at the time, obviously, and what happened 371 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: there was unlike what happened in Cleveland recently with the Indians, 372 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: where they had some sort of massive study to come 373 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: up with the name Guardians for the future. You can 374 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: say that's a great choice or not, but ours was 375 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: very simple. There was a luncheon. It was my father 376 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: and John Sawyer. Dave Gamble was there and that was it, 377 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: and they discussed how to name the team, and my 378 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: dad said, well, someone thought we should name it the 379 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Rhinos because that would tie into the German background in Cincinnati. Rhine, 380 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: and it's an animal, big and powerful. And my dad 381 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: said his sister, my aunt had called him and told him, Paul, 382 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: whatever you do, don't name that team the Rhinos. A 383 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: rhino is a big, dumb, slow animal, and you don't 384 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: want your team known in that way. So they settled 385 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: on Tiger. John and Dave both went to Princeton. That 386 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: was all right with them. My dad said it was 387 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: all right with him. He had coached the masslind Tigers 388 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: for nine years and he said, I know how to 389 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: use that kind of symbol. And since I didn't have 390 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: a vote and was just sitting there, I said nothing. 391 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: So that's how the name came to be. Among your 392 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: father's many innovations was the use of game film as 393 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: a teaching tool. You rarely miss a practice. I know that. 394 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: What about watching game film? Is that something that you enjoy? Well, 395 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: I am curious about it. I take time to look 396 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: at our game film. I do it after every game, 397 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: and then I go home. It satisfies curiosity. You build 398 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: up false ideas of what really happened, and then when 399 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: you run it back and forth a few times and 400 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: look at it closely, the reality of it comes across 401 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: and you accept it for what it is. I am 402 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: astonished anymore at how quickly we have that available. It's 403 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: a nice thing. In my book, Seattle coach Pete Carroll 404 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: turns seventy in September, Bill Belichick is sixty nine. Your 405 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: father was sixty seven when he retired, and the team 406 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: won eleven and three in his final season. That's the 407 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: best winning percentage in franchise history. Why did he stop 408 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: at sixty seven? And did you try to talk him 409 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: out of it? Believe me, I would not have tried 410 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: to talk him out of anything that he had decided 411 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: to do. It would have just said yes, sir and 412 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: marched on. He called me over and told me he 413 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: was going to retire as a coach. He thought it 414 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: was time. He was aware of some other guys who 415 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: were active and he thought stayed too long and he 416 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: didn't want to just front. It was the term he used, 417 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: and it was a decision that he wrestled with, but 418 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: he felt it was proper time and did what he 419 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: thought was best for him, his reputation, and for the 420 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: team's future. We had good people. We had Bill Johnson 421 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: and Bill Walsh as coaches on the team. We had 422 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: people to turn to. This is the anniversary of the 423 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one Super Bowl team, and if you pulled 424 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: fans on the greatest game in Bengals history, the overwhelming 425 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: winning answer would be the Freezer Bowl January of eighty two. 426 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: Air temperature nine below windshill fifty nine below, beat the 427 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: Chargers to go to the Super Bowl. San Diego owner 428 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: Gene Kleine tried to get you to move that game 429 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: to San Diego. Correct. Yes, he ran into me upstairs 430 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: in the press box area close to it and had 431 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: this good idea of postponing the game and moving it 432 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: to San Diego because it was so cold. No one 433 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: should win to have a game in this temperature should they. 434 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: That was an easy one for me. We saw that 435 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: as a considerable advantage. We were able to play in 436 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: that kind of weather. It fit us. They had fouts, 437 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: the top quarterback who probably would have played better in 438 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: the sunshine. It was something that amused me at the 439 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: time and still does. But I don't fought him for asking. 440 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt to ask, that's for sure. Did you 441 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: have any issues that day along the lines of did 442 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: your car start, did the pipes freeze at riverfront? Anything 443 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: like that? Well, we went through a cold time in Cincinnati. 444 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: I don't know much about weather, but for two or 445 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: three years around that Super Bowl year, the weather was 446 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: just The winners were just colder than here, a colder 447 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: here than they have been otherwise ear in my lifetime here. 448 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: And you got used to things. You really did the 449 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: kid icicles in the living room. But that he would, uh, 450 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: it was just phenomenally cold, day in and day out. 451 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: To his credit Forrest, Greg was our coach and he 452 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: had played up at Green Bay. That was his background, 453 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: and he did not give into the cold, and he 454 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: would not allow the players to give into the cold. 455 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: We practiced just as normal, We did everything just as 456 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: though it were sunny and eighty degrees, and it was 457 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: a leadership he generated on that that our players began 458 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: to see it as an advantage, something that they could manage, 459 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: and whoever we were going to play would have problems with. 460 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: And I think they were right on that. You and 461 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: Forrest were great friends. You and your wives socialized together. 462 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: What would people be surprised to learn about Forrest greg Well, 463 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: he was seen as a big, strong guy, and he 464 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: was that, and he was seen as a tough guy, 465 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: a demanding With the football team, he was that, but 466 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: away from the football team, in private, he was just 467 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: a big pussy cat. He was a wonderful guy. I 468 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: really delighted in his company. I loved the guy. We 469 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: were good friends when he was here, and I think 470 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: back in those times with great fondness. You've said before 471 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: you consider that eighty one team to be the best 472 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: Enfranchise history. What was it about that team that makes 473 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: you feel that way. Oh, we had all the pieces, 474 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: and we were ahead of the curve and some of 475 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: the things we did head of the wave. It was 476 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: a combination of both. We had a good quarterback and 477 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: Ken Anderson. There wasn't much lacking on that team. So 478 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: when we lined up against people, we were confident, and 479 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately in the Super Bowl we lost to the forty 480 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: nine ers. I honestly think we were the better team. 481 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: I felt that. It just I still feel that we 482 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: fumbled the ball away. Things happened, but if we played 483 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: them ten times, I still believe we would have won 484 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: the majority of them. This has been a treat As always, 485 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Okay, I 486 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: appreciate visiting with you. Thanks the Boomer and Mike. And 487 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this episode of the 488 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by Bud Light Seltzer 489 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: refreshed they If you haven't done so already, please subscribe 490 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: and if you have a minute, give it a rating 491 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: or share a comment that helps more Bengals fans find 492 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: this podcast. I'm Dan Horde, and thanks for listening to 493 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast