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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan

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Speaker 2: It's Dan Patrick Show. Heat a discussion first hour. It's

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Speaker 2: the topic that everybody is talking about, and we gave

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Speaker 2: you our opinions. We didn't mince words. Should Chet Holmgren

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Speaker 2: have been on the All Rookie Team? He didn't play

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Speaker 2: his rookie year, but he's on first team All Rookie.

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Speaker 2: So we did a deep dive. We wanted to find

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Speaker 2: out how you qualify for a rookie If you're a

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Speaker 2: baseball player, when are you not a rookie? The NFL

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Speaker 2: we have their policy as well, All Rookie Team. Well

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Speaker 2: pretty much, if you've been on a practice squad, played

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Speaker 2: in the Canadian Football League, you've had any other pro

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Speaker 2: football league, or any kind of experience preseason training camp,

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Speaker 2: you are not eligible for All Rookie awards. Now, Warren

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Speaker 2: Moon created in the CFL one titles there came down.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't a rookie when he got to the NFL,

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Speaker 2: but in the NBA he would be a rookie. Eachier

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Speaker 2: Row was I think twenty six when he came over

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Speaker 2: to Seattle. He had been MVP over there in the

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Speaker 2: Japanese league, he won Rookie of the Year and he

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Speaker 2: won MVP as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulie Joelle Embiid missed his first two seasons of

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Speaker 3: NBA and he was completely eligible for Rookie of the

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Speaker 2: Jamal Crawford's going to join us, a former NBA player.

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Speaker 2: We'll get his thoughts on that also, Kenny, he remember

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Speaker 2: a team under more pressure than the Celtics this year

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Speaker 2: to win a title really in any sport. If anybody

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Speaker 2: has any other suggestions. We brought up a few of those.

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Speaker 2: The Braves in the mid nineties finally got one. I

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Speaker 2: brought up the Dodgers a couple of years ago, with

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Speaker 2: all that money that was spent, all those all stars,

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Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw, Dave Roberts, that they had to have won.

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Speaker 2: There's been a few recent history, but here are the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: They've been here before. We expect them to win the title.

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Speaker 2: hour two, Let's clean up our one, let's clean up

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Speaker 2: our one. Is chet Hoolmgren a rookie? Right now?

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Speaker 4: Sixty percent of the audience say no, we also had

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Speaker 4: up there. Who will get back to us first, the

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Speaker 4: NBA or Panini on our two ridiculous questions?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right now, fifty nine percent of the audience have Panini

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Speaker 4: and they were correct. Panini has gotten back to us

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Speaker 4: and said chet Holmgren's rookie cards were from last year.

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Speaker 2: Officially.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I don't have word as of yet if

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Speaker 2: Okay, Todd, did you hear back from the Yeah, Panini

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Speaker 2: gets it. That's why. Yeah, I knew that.

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Speaker 3: I know they do this Rising Stars game or series

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Speaker 3: years ago at NBA All Star Weekend it was rookies

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Speaker 3: been wild. But he didn't play, I know, but he was,

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Speaker 3: just curious that he would have played with the rookies

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Speaker 2: To imagine Derek Lively of the MAVs, who would have

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Speaker 2: been first team All Rookie. He's second team All Rookie. Yes, Marv. Sorry.

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Speaker 5: Going back to teams with the most pressure. What about

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Speaker 2: I don't remember. I know that well, there was pressure

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Speaker 2: But I but I don't like they hadn't been there

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Speaker 2: and it never It hasn't happened yet. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: just you know, fast forward that Okay, you've been in

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Speaker 2: when are you going to win a title? It didn't

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Speaker 2: used to be that way. That you got usually I

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Speaker 5: I think the difference between them and the Celtics is

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Speaker 5: So you're thinking to yourself, all right, they're gonna get

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Speaker 2: But they're they're so young. They're acting like they're young

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Speaker 2: don't realize how much older, how much longer certain players

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, these are a little different, but in the

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Speaker 3: and that really killed the historical punch of that season,

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Speaker 3: It's like the Patriots when they had the perfect season, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it got spoiled by the Giants. It's still a

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Speaker 2: But I remember with the Patriots going undefeated and we

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Speaker 2: Now, look, I famously and at the time stupidly said

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Speaker 2: think I even called Paulie. I go, I just said

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Speaker 3: You called me on the way home from the taping. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because it hadn't been on the letter tape.

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Speaker 3: But then you said, I remember you saying, but there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but nationally, Oh this hurts. Oh, I just got

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Speaker 2: an email we all did. That is stupid. You know what?

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Speaker 2: That is unfair? Hey, you can watch the Sports Emmys tonight.

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Speaker 3: From a distance.

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Speaker 4: I might as well get used to it.

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Speaker 3: Open bar too.

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Speaker 4: I did like to grow to like that restaurant though,

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Speaker 4: they're in New York City, there's like a restaurant like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he ate food off of your plate. Yeah

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Speaker 2: I did. I was like, whoa pat SJ just.

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Speaker 4: Like reached in and grabbed like fries off your plate

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Speaker 3: A vowel and some asparagus.

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Speaker 7: Damn.

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Speaker 2: That was tough. That was tough. Yeah, is the NBA

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Speaker 2: sending the Nixon email?

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Speaker 8: Hey, tonight game one.

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Speaker 2: How you can watch nick fan Yeah sending a joker

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Speaker 5: Who's under more pressure us winning a Sports Emmy or

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Speaker 5: the Celtics win the NBA?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Well we were nominated five consecutive years. That's similar

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Speaker 2: with the Celtics. Buffalo Bills is really yeah? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills of sports radio. Great fan base, great city,

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Speaker 2: and we have a great fan base. Yeah. Man, now

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Speaker 2: that you put it like that, that hurts even more. Hey,

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Speaker 2: watch the Sports Emmys tonight. Hey, you're not nominated, but

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Speaker 2: the thrman Thomas of the Oh, who's gonna who would

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Speaker 2: forget their helmet? Todd? Would you forget your helmet?

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Speaker 8: I'm pretty angle about that stuff. I set up everything

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Speaker 8: like the night before on the bed.

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Speaker 2: Your white lays out here exactly.

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Speaker 8: It's like these shoes go with this year, read this time.

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Speaker 2: How about a couple of phone calls here, Baker and

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Speaker 2: Bozeman is back. That's the literation that Paulie hates Baker

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Speaker 2: and Bozeman is back.

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Speaker 10: It was great.

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Speaker 9: They had autographed sessions with Victor one beyondba Que, mat

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let Todd send it, you know what. Let's

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Speaker 8: Hour, Yeah, they don't need a second one.

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Speaker 2: Doug in North Carolina, Good morning, Doug.

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Speaker 10: Hey Dan.

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Speaker 11: I wanted to revisit Seaton's point because he said it correct,

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Speaker 7: It's not that one.

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Speaker 11: Hundred and thirty at bats is when you're no longer

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you Doug for the clarification. You have

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Speaker 7: He was.

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Speaker 2: All right, he's twenty five years of age.

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Speaker 8: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I didn't know Lou won it when

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Speaker 3: You're right, it was Kansasity. He started in Baltimore in

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Speaker 2: He was rookie of the year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, David Robinson did two years of military then

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Speaker 2: Then there's no sports radio. Barry in Santa Fe Hi Berry,

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Speaker 7: Morning fellas, Good morning chat Ro. You were talking about

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Speaker 7: uniforms before The biggest all time blunder fiasco of brand

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Speaker 7: changing has to be my New York Islanders. They went

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Speaker 2: Thank you Berry. We were talking about Edmonton Advanced last

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Speaker 2: night and we looked those uniforms. They're great, home and

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Speaker 3: Those are great uniforms. Yeah, point yeah, I'm looking back

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Speaker 3: at this. I didn't recall in the seventies and eighties

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Speaker 3: Vancouver Grizzlies type uniforms, blue aqua orange with like a

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Speaker 3: fish and kick your butt. Not pretty, not even like

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Speaker 2: Who's the marketing person who goes, I got a great idea,

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Speaker 2: we got we got a winning tradition. Let's throw away tradition.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in a new Let's bring in teal. Let's

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Speaker 2: start fresh. Everybody loves Teal. We won four straight Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cups with this, I know. But now we capitalize and

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Speaker 2: then we have a new uniform, you know, the big

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Speaker 2: bad fishermen. Here come the fish sticks. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I've said this before, The Island that Islander group is

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Speaker 2: BOSSI was there Trozier in a wonderful team, one of

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Speaker 2: They were professional that if you ask for somebody, you

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Speaker 2: to do a story on Billy Smith. Yeah that's not happening,

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Speaker 8: But as professional, at least the way I remember it.

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Speaker 8: Were very professional in a lot of ways, and they

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Speaker 8: on what you just said, I'm taking your word for it.

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Speaker 8: But on the ice, once the game they knew they

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Speaker 8: All they did. I watched the number of games down

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Speaker 2: Let's start being winning. They were winning. Stanley Cupps Todd

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Speaker 2: maybe later, but not that group, not that Pat Lafontaine

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tonight, game one of the Eastern Conference Finals. According

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Speaker 2: Jamal Crawford, Turner's sports analyst, former NBA player, three time

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Speaker 2: NBA sixth Man of the Year, Jamal we spent a

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Speaker 6: And he'll surepare you for that second year, but your

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Speaker 2: First, all right, let's turn our attention to tonight's game.

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Speaker 2: Can you remember a team with this much pressure on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we keep waiting to anoint Jason Tatum is maybe

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Speaker 2: How much did bowing out the way he did against

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Speaker 6: I've watching him up close for as much as I

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Speaker 6: did this. This playoff run is fascinating. You really have

436
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Speaker 6: to combine for five players to be this guy like

437
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 6: he's damn he's not just playing against the players, He's

438
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Speaker 6: playing against the coach. And that's what makes me different.

439
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 6: I'm not always playing get you guys, let me see what.

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Speaker 7: Do this?

441
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Speaker 6: So he is a one of one and he is

442
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Speaker 6: special and fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what is it about him? Because he's like

444
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Speaker 2: a hybrid there of players. It's not like you go, oh,

445
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Speaker 2: you know he reminds me of because I don't know

446
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Speaker 2: if there's anybody like him.

447
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Speaker 6: No, there's not just one person like him. He has

448
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Speaker 6: some of the Kams footwork and he brings out the

449
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Speaker 6: Kareem skylook on the same possession all then he'll know,

450
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 6: look you and pass like magic the bird. The thing

451
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Speaker 6: that's interesting, really special about him, besides his mind is

452
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 6: he can kind of blend two eras he can play

453
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Speaker 6: nineties bullies ball and get in there and make you

454
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Speaker 6: look small. Or he can step out here threes, get

455
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Speaker 6: to the dribble, handoffs and make plays on the perimeter

456
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Speaker 6: like the players do today, the bigger guys. So he's

457
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Speaker 6: the one guy that can kind of win two ears.

458
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Speaker 6: Oh and I can score forty whenever I don't whenever

459
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 6: I want, But sometimes I'll score forty when I don't

460
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 6: want to as well, and he can pass and find everybody.

461
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Speaker 6: He's a special player.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the best, and he's one of the

463
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Speaker 2: selfless players. When you think of great players, Steve Nash

464
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Speaker 2: comes to mind. He won a couple MVPs. They had

465
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Speaker 2: to tell him to shoot, you know. Jokers had a

466
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Speaker 2: couple of seasons where you know, he was like twentieth

467
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Speaker 2: in shot attempts, and that's saying a whole lot for

468
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Speaker 2: an MVP.

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Speaker 6: And the really, really, really special thing about him, out

470
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Speaker 6: of all the players I've seen, I studied the game

471
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Speaker 6: for a long time. I was just thinking about this.

472
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Speaker 6: I stayed it since I was eight years old, so

473
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Speaker 6: thirty six years for a superstar. He makes the right play,

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Speaker 6: probably more consistently, in a higher percentage than most superstars

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Speaker 6: I've ever seen. Like, if it calls for me to

476
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 6: pass ten straight times, I'll do that with a smile.

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Speaker 6: If it calls for me to score five straight times,

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Speaker 6: I'll do it. He makes the right play almost every

479
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 6: single time down the court, and that's that's almost impossible

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Speaker 6: to do.

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Speaker 2: Who's a better passer, Joker or Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 6: I would give Joker the advantage only because his height,

483
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 6: he can see different angles. Care I'm a basketball guy, right,

484
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 6: astball guys, I got to say that Holds is ridiculous.

485
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Speaker 2: Does Denver need to make big changes to its roster?

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Speaker 6: I think they need to solidify their events a little

487
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Speaker 6: bit more. I think when they lost uh Brown last

488
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Speaker 6: year and they lost Jeff Green, I thought they hurt

489
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Speaker 6: them big time, you know, because it took out guys

490
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Speaker 6: that can switch. It took out athletic guys, it took

491
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Speaker 6: off vet guys. It took out almost another set of

492
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Speaker 6: playmakers as well. If you saw when Jamal Murray really

493
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 6: got off in a series, he got off the ball,

494
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 6: he let Gordon or Joker bring the ball up, which

495
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 6: freed him to kind of play the attack game. And

496
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 6: their team is built for him to be the attacker.

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Speaker 6: So I think they need a couple more playmakers.

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Speaker 2: Our dynasty is dead in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure they're dead, but I think they'll be

500
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Speaker 6: harder to to do. When you when you go back

501
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 6: and think about Jordan winning three, taking me a year

502
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 6: and a half off and come back and win three more,

503
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 6: we will never see that again, and especially the way

504
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 6: player movement is as well, the way contracts are structured guys.

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Speaker 6: You remember in the eighties, like we knew everybody on

506
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Speaker 6: the Celtics knew it was Age Bird and Harris and

507
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 6: mckille and all these guys in nearby the Lakers with

508
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 6: Scott and Magic and Worthy, Arambus and Kareem. So we

509
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 6: don't identify our players like that anymore. Just being with

510
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 6: that team now, we just kind of follow the player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what the salary structure with the salary

512
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Speaker 2: camp and moving forward, can you have big threes? And

513
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can, I don't. I mean,

514
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: Phoenix has it, but it's not going to work for them. Okay,

515
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Speaker 2: See as a lot of young players under contract Minnesota,

516
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: you know they're not necessarily a young I mean, Rudy's

517
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: been around a while and so is Cat. But so

518
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what Boston's got those two guys under

519
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: contract and Tatum and Brown. I'm just curious if teams

520
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: to get that third star or they use the money

521
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: to maybe even out the roster. And ye had a

522
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: little bit more on the bench.

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Speaker 6: Well, you heard Kendrick Lamar in the in the rep beef,

524
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 6: he says it's no big three it's just big me.

525
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Speaker 6: That was just a big me. It's just I think

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Speaker 6: you're right. I think it'll be the two star crime model,

527
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 6: and you go around that I actually like that model better,

528
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 6: to be honest with you, I think that, Yeah. I

529
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 6: think that third guy sacrifice was a lot and he

530
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 6: never gets a chance to be him, and I think

531
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Speaker 6: the two guys have to figure it out. And I

532
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 6: miss that part of it, like, Okay, it's us two,

533
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 6: it's those two, but our benches and our role players

534
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 6: and our coach and all that stuff. They come into

535
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 6: the game a lot more. And I missed that that

536
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 6: time period.

537
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Speaker 2: Why does it seem like people don't like Drake?

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Speaker 6: He's been on top for a long time then, like

539
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's it's hard to keep that same

540
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 6: further when you're that's why you're damn Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Is Drake and Lebron Is there parallels?

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Speaker 6: I can see that absolutely. I think that might be

543
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 6: the basketball version, that might be the rap version. For sure,

544
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 6: they've been on top for a long time.

545
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: Who's better at what they do? Drake or Lebron?

546
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Speaker 6: I would say Lebron. I think I think Drake is

547
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 6: one of the greatest artists ever, I think Lebron's one

548
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 6: of the greatest basketball players ever had to hire a

549
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 6: hired tea.

550
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Do you believe Lebron's not involved in the coaching search

551
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: for the Lakers.

552
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 6: I think Lebron, if he says it's now, I'm gonna

553
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 6: takehim for his word. But I would think a player

554
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 6: of that magnitude they kind of know what's going on.

555
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 6: At least in my experiences of playing with top players,

556
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 6: they were in the loop, and when they weren't in

557
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 6: the loop, they were a little upset by that.

558
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: Okay, but Lebron does a podcast with JJ Reddick. Yes,

559
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: do you think at some point, maybe when they're not

560
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: recording that Lebron says something to JJ or JJ says

561
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 2: something to Lebron about coaching the Lakers.

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00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 6: There has to be some conversation, right, Yeah, they respect

563
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 6: each other's basketball intellect. They would not have done a

564
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 6: pod together. That could just be normal friends talking like

565
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 6: we're talking coaching right now, right, So, I'm sure they've

566
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 6: had some type of conversation about that.

567
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: What advice would you give Bronnie James?

568
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 6: You know what, I watched him at the Combine and

569
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 6: even before that. You can go back to my tweets.

570
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 6: I love how he plays, I love how you was raised,

571
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 6: his humility, And now I'm in the aest circuit because

572
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 6: I'm coaching my son, so I know what it's like

573
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 6: to be like, you know, the famous kid, and everybody's

574
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 6: kind of watching you and hoping things don't go well

575
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 6: for you. He hands it beautifully and he knows how

576
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 6: to play the game. And what I'm not in the

577
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 6: comparison part of it, but just watching him. He's athletic,

578
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: he can shoot it. He makes the right play almost

579
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 6: all the time. So he'll find his way and he'll

580
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 6: definitely be a pro at what round and what pick

581
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 6: I don't know, but he'll be a pro because he

582
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 6: has the right makeup in the right.

583
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: Okay, but if I take away the name, if I

584
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: take away the name, let's be honest. Yeah, and you

585
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: went to the combine, are you noticing Bronnie.

586
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 6: James Absolutely six to one forty inch bird that's gonna

587
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 6: jump off the page first, and then he shoot twenty

588
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 6: five threes. You make nineteen of them. I'm watching that

589
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 6: as well, and he's making the right play for somebody

590
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 6: to have the name that long and not try to

591
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: play up to that pressure. Yeah, I think that's impressive.

592
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 6: Been itself.

593
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: What's your what was your vertical?

594
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Speaker 6: It wasn't forty, It was thirty two and I needed

595
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 6: another eight, So it may be I made a ball

596
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 6: eight from somebody else. I think it was like thirty four.

597
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 6: Maybe it wasn't forty, Yes for sure.

598
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: Okay, but what was it?

599
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 6: Like?

600
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: The best leaper you saw where you go? That's that's

601
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: not real, Like that's not fair.

602
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 6: I seen a couple of them, Vince Carter. James flight

603
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 6: White was taken off from the free throw line and

604
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 6: he's assistant coach with the Timbrelves right now in wind Millon.

605
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 6: In high school. Derreck Rose, when I saw him, he

606
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 6: was like a world class track act. He was like,

607
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 6: he's not, he's he has a supercharger in his body.

608
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 6: That's not you're supposed to play. People forget how athletic

609
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 6: and how great he was before any injuries. Derrick Rose

610
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 6: one of my favorites.

611
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: On the White from Florida.

612
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 6: I think he was from d C. He may went to.

613
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: Florida playing Florida.

614
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.

615
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 6: James flight White, what about you then, who did you?

616
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 6: And of course m J right like he some guys

617
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 6: know about one foot or two feet he was doing

618
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 6: like who are you? Who are you?

619
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Speaker 2: Was? Oh, I go back. First guy I ever saw

620
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: who was different was Elgin Baylor where he just yeah,

621
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: his his elevation was was something where he went, Okay,

622
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: that's different. I didn't see Russell play, but I saw

623
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: just about everybody else athletically. Doc doctor J in traffic

624
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: was so great at dunking because he would just get

625
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: it go like big hamp boom, throw it down.

626
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 6: Uh.

627
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: Darnell Hillman doctor Uh. I think they called him doctor

628
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: Dunk or something a b a big afro Darnell Hillman.

629
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Speaker 2: I remember, uh, Connie Hawkins remember bro? Yeah, yeah, I'm

630
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: trying to think who else might have been where you

631
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: just watch and you go a man. That guy could

632
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: hit his head on the rim right now. That that's

633
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: old school. Going back.

634
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 6: Kevin Harland asked me something, and I'm going to ask

635
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 6: you if you could only watch a player who could

636
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 6: handle the ball like magic, right, not magic Johnson would

637
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 6: like magical, look beautiful, somebody who had the best jumper ever,

638
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: and somebody who could fly through there you can only

639
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 6: watch one game of that person. Who would it be?

640
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 6: Who's your stop?

641
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: So, who's my player that has all of those?

642
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 6: No one player that had the best at that. Who

643
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 6: would you rather watch? The ball handler or the shooter? Oh?

644
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: Well, you and me are shooters, yes, so yeah, yeah,

645
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: I would take a shooter, just like I love I

646
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: like eravich Is is one of the best ball handlers ever,

647
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: and and Kyrie is in there as well. I mean

648
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: there's there's a few guys who were unbelievable and by

649
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: ball handling, I always say, how are you in traffic?

650
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: Because that's really what I want to see? If tight spaces?

651
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Speaker 2: Can you get out of the tight space? And Kyrie's yes, great,

652
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Speaker 2: great point dunking. I don't know, like I just never

653
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Speaker 2: I know, but unless he's jumping over Frederick Weiss, I

654
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: mean it's it's just like I I got to see Dominique.

655
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: Dominique always tomahawked like he didn't do one handed, and

656
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: he did it in traffic. And I saw Doctor J

657
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: like that. I got spoiled. So Vince is, you know, incredible.

658
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: But I always found the guys that could jump weren't

659
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: necessarily the best players because they relied. It's like a

660
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: beautiful woman who doesn't develop her personality, like, hey, I'm beautiful,

661
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 2: look at me. Dunk and then can you play? You know,

662
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: can you shoot? Can you play deep? You know? All

663
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: those things. So I'm not as big on the dunking

664
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Speaker 2: part of it.

665
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Speaker 6: Okay, I think I chose the the guy in the

666
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 6: type spaces. I thought shooting was cool, dunking was cool,

667
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 6: but the guy that that's where the magic happened. So

668
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 6: I think I chose. If I could watch one game,

669
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Speaker 6: I think it would be the Kyrie type player.

670
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Speaker 2: Is Kyrie the most talented player who ever played the game?

671
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Speaker 6: The most talented? Yes, not the best talented. I would

672
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 6: say he's one of the most talented and one of

673
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 6: the most skilled. I think Jordan checks both boxes. I

674
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 6: think Jordan's the most talented. I think he's the most skilled.

675
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 6: I think he's the best player. I think he checks

676
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Speaker 6: every box for me personally, the Kyrie talent wise, he

677
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 6: is up there. He's the guy that even the talented

678
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 6: guys look at and say, how.

679
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Speaker 10: Do you do that?

680
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 6: And that's what that's right, Like, that's what separates him

681
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 6: for sure.

682
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Speaker 2: What's the picture over your shoulder? Right, right, left shoulder,

683
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: right shoulder.

684
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Speaker 6: I think that's Jordan, right, I don't know, you tell me, yeah, yeah,

685
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 6: it's Jordan. It's Jordan. He's ever president, always president.

686
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: What is he doing in the picture.

687
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 6: He's given me death, He's given me death. And that

688
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 6: was that was his first time returning to Chicago, and

689
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 6: he had like a thirty minute stand ovation. He had

690
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 6: to tell them to stop clapping for him so we

691
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 6: could play the game. It was that game.

692
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Speaker 2: How'd you do against him?

693
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 6: That game? That game? I think I had double figures? Uh,

694
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 6: I think I had double figures. And I think we

695
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 6: ended up winning that game. Okay, So I just came

696
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 6: back to me. The first game he came back, I

697
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 6: was hurt. That was the first time I played against

698
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 6: him though, and I think we won that game. But

699
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 6: the first game he came back, they won the game.

700
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 6: But he gave me his shoes that first time he

701
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 6: came back to Chicago.

702
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: You still have them.

703
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: I still have him his first and last shoes he

704
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 6: ever wore against the boards. The games look at you, yep, yep.

705
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Speaker 2: Don't sell them. Don't sell them never ever.

706
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Speaker 6: I'll sell me first.

707
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 7: I go before.

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Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you as always. We covered

709
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: a lot of ground here. Who would have thought we'd

710
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: be talking, you know, Drake and Lebron.

711
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Speaker 6: Yes, thank you, Jamul, Thanks, you appreciate it.

712
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: That's Jamal Crawford, turner sports analyst, three time NBA sixth

713
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: Man of the Year, one of Marvin's favorite players. He's

714
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 2: so entertaining, he is great.

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Speaker 7: He's great.

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00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 5: YouTube is your friend, guys, YouTube Jamal Carford highlights. You

717
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: won't be disappointed.

718
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Speaker 2: You can do that during the commercial break for sure. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we're back after this.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

722
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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wapp.

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Speaker 2: Sneak a couple of phone calls in here. We talked

724
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: to Adam Sandler yesterday in the ten o'clock Eastern hour

725
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: and he's on a movie set in Italy. But George

726
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: Clooney took time out and I wanted to talk to

727
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: him about Anthony Edwards because he putting in his movie Hustle.

728
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: And he said, Danny, this guy is an actor. He's

729
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: got so much charisma. I'm going okay, you know, And

730
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: then I saw some of the outtics there some of

731
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: the dailies, as they like to say, and I go, wow,

732
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: this guy, and I remember, I mean I was fortunate

733
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: this Sandman let me see it, so I was able

734
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: to tell people before the movie came out. I said,

735
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: wait till you see his personality, because he has got

736
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: a lot of it. He is acting in the playoffs

737
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: the way he did a movie. He's trash talking, dunking

738
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: on people. And right now there's no script for Happy Gilmore.

739
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: But I talked to Sandman about you know, is he

740
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: going to reach out to Tiger. I think John Daly

741
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: he's going to reach out to him. I don't know

742
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: anything other than that. Didn't want to bother him while

743
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: he was on the movie set yesterday, following up after

744
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: our conversation, but Happy Gilmore Too, although he did say

745
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: maybe he's retired, comes out of retirement for Happy Gilmore too?

746
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: And what kind of storyline could you have? Who could

747
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: you have in the movie aside from me? See, I

748
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna have to play myself. It feels like

749
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: that because Sandman goes, Danny, You're in it, You're gonna

750
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: be You're gonna be you, like I don't want to

751
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: be me. Yes, Mark, what about.

752
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 5: A golfer like Kevin Neeland's part in the First Happy Gilmour.

753
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 5: You could just be a golfer.

754
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: I'd be a caddie like I never. I don't want

755
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: to play myself. That's not any fun.

756
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 6: You know.

757
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: I got range, I got depth, you know, skills. I

758
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 2: want to maybe one of these days all love interest. Yeah,

759
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: just saying.

760
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, you could play like a PJ official, a

761
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: real terse PJ official. You have to make a call

762
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: on something. I'm sure there's gonna be some drama.

763
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 2: So I'd be a buy the book kind of guy.

764
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no wiggle room. Yeah, he mentioned and you guys

765
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: mentioned Tiger Woods being in this Tiger maybe fifteen years

766
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 3: ago probably wouldn't have done a cameo in a comedy,

767
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: but now he's back nine. No, pun, I think you

768
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: get Tiger to be do a cameo in this movie.

769
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

770
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: I'd rather see John Daily, but John Daly, we expect

771
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 3: him to be John Dayly, like seeing Tiger. Remember that

772
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: movie Tropic Thunder.

773
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think Tiger could be anybody other

774
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: than Tiger.

775
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: I know this is a different comparison. When Tom Cruise

776
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: did that comedy turn in Tropic Thunder. I think it's

777
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: the best work of his amongst the best work of

778
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: his career.

779
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 7: Mage.

780
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: If Tiger played like a totally different version of himself.

781
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 4: I don't think he can, because that's the problem. He's

782
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 4: not an actor. Yeah, I mean, he's Tiger Woods, He's

783
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: he's a golfer, Paul. It's it's difficult what I do.

784
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: Yes, your people, Yeah, I mean, but maybe you could

785
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: help Tiger like like he you would ask him for

786
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: golf tips, he would, you could give him acting tips.

787
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

788
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 2: Well, he just has to be willing to listen to me. Yeah,

789
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: And you know, it takes time to get into the role.

790
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: What am I? Who am I? What's my motivation? And

791
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: who are the women? That's usually what I ask when

792
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: I go on a Sandler set. I remember the first

793
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: time when I I so, that's my motivation here? Yeah?

794
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: And where are the hot women? Danny? Yeah? Who is

795
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: the Who's justin Timberlake? Oh, Jessica Bill So Sandman leads

796
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: the league and he got her to be in the

797
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: movie Member Zohan with Emmanuel Shrieky. I wasn't in that movie.

798
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: That's when he wanted to be the He said, can

799
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 2: you play can you give me a Middle Eastern accent

800
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: and be a cab driver? I go, no, I got

801
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: be a cab driver. And I met Jessica Biel and

802
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: you know I was going to be in a scene

803
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: with her, and so he's like, Danny, Danny, come on,

804
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: got gotta meet Bill. I don't know. It's Jessica Biell.

805
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: She comes around the corner and I go, oh, Jessica Bill.

806
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: And then he goes, this is Danny. He's this sports guy.

807
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: And she goes, hello, sports guy. And then that was it.

808
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: That was my interaction there, and then the spark happened. No,

809
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: there were no sparks there. Would you think was coming

810
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: on the corner of Larry Reference nice little sports center

811
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: callback there Larry Beale and Aloha means goodbye, And that's

812
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: exactly what she said to me. Aloha means goodbye, sports guy. Yeah,

813
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: no sparks. And even the woman I had to kiss

814
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 2: on the blended set, she was in the Goldbergs. The professionals, Yes.

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Speaker 8: Wendy McLendon, Kobe yes with a hyphen in.

816
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: The very funny uh. We didn't have any chemistry. And

817
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: then that's when Sandman said, Danny kiss her, and I go, wait,

818
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: it's not in the script. And then it's kind of awkward,

819
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Speaker 2: you know when you think about it and that's just

820
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: a kiss, you imagine doing a whole scene, sex scene,

821
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Speaker 2: and you know, so I'm going high. I had to

822
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: introduce myself to her right before I kiss. Sir, I'm Dan.

823
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: She goes, I'm Wendy, and I go, okay, so we're

824
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 2: supposed to kiss.

825
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 8: That's so weird.

826
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and then she slipped my tongue, which was

827
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: really it just meant yes. That was she said, hold

828
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Speaker 2: habits die Hard, And the cameras weren't even wrong. No,

829
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Speaker 2: no actor, no, we weren't even shooting anything. Come here,

830
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: sport her. We get us right. Xander Shoftley PG Champ's

831
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Speaker 2: going to join us in about twenty five minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: I hope you'll stay with us final hour on this Tuesday,