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Speaker 1: And my dermatologist literally said, this is what you need

425
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Speaker 1: because I have exema on my Yeah. Well it's it's

426
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: it's it's allergies being crazy this year. I had none

427
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: last year and now it's it's it's it's I have

428
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: been sneezing a lot more and I've had like this,

429
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: like I've had this like productive allergg cough for like

430
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: a week now. But I've gotten tested for COVID. It's

431
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: not COVID. I swear to g it's not COVID. But anyway,

432
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: um so did that until Wednesday, and then Wednesday through

433
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: Saturday went to um the Hampton's with work friends and

434
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: it was that looks so nice, like I love like,

435
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: I love like a like a mainland long island out

436
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: east vibe with sweatshirts, with sweatshirts. It was, it was fun.

437
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: It was fun and um pulled my first I I'm

438
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: okay to admit this to the readers, but it was.

439
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: It was through a lot of so we we wanted

440
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: to plan stuff for the group and Fran Gillespie found

441
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: this vineyard or a friend recommended this in your to

442
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: Fran Gillespie. Wolfer Estates shout out to Wolf for Estates.

443
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: But she kept calling on Thursday trying to book something Friday,

444
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: and they were like, they were like, we I'm sure

445
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: everyone knows what this is. All all the readers know

446
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: what this is. But they were like, We're so sorry.

447
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: Everything's booked up. It's a Memorial Day is very busy.

448
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: We we have nothing open. We have nothing open. And

449
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: then Fran was like okay, and then it was it

450
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: was not my idea, but it had been put out there.

451
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: That's that one of the famous is should sort of call,

452
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: should call. And then we were like, well, let's wait

453
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: for eighty to get here on Friday, so that she

454
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: being probably Queen Famous well, she I don't want to

455
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: blow up her spot. But eighties, like I have an assistant,

456
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: famous do you do? You understand what I'm saying? The

457
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: rest of us are not. And so we were like,

458
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: let's have eighties assistant to take care of it, because

459
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of what they do. This is,

460
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: this is and butter and then and then we were

461
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: just like, no, let's not, let's do And then Friday

462
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: morning you woke up, and then Frand just kept bringing

463
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: bringing up the fact that like, we should really go

464
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: to this vineyard. We should really go to this vineyard?

465
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: Should we what should we do? And then I was like,

466
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: I am willing to really take a risk here. It's

467
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: it felt very vulnerable and it is not I do

468
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: not feel cool doing it, I should say. And it

469
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: felt it felt cringe e and stupid and like, why,

470
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: oh my god, I am I gonna do this? Really

471
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: it's kind of for me. It would just be like

472
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: getting on the phone and saying the words like what

473
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: do what was wolf for? Estates? But I okay, if

474
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: I should say that I did rehearse this to the

475
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: group in the kitchen, and I have video of it.

476
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: I have video of it. That I can maybe even play, Um,

477
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: I can play. I'm gonna I'm gonna play the rehearsal video,

478
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: but the rehearsal of Bowen Yang going to call the

479
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: Wolf for Estates Vineyard and say, is it possible that

480
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: we could get a table? It's the cast of SNL. Yes,

481
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 1: So wait, maybe I don't have it. Let's see, all right,

482
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: I've got some I'm staying in the area with some

483
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: SNL I would would love to come by today if

484
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: there's room for a tasting. What do I see? What

485
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: I say? Oh my god? So there was a room

486
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: for a tasting. No, so what it ended up being?

487
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: And I was I was groggy, and I was eating

488
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: a bag I had a mouthful of bagel. So what what? Okay,

489
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: so do you want to So basically the operative word

490
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: was the operative term was SNL. Folks like, okay, great,

491
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: all right, Wolf for a State's Vineyard. This is Melissa

492
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: speaking him Melissa, Um, this is Bowen Yang and I

493
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: am staying in the area with some SNL folks, and

494
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: I'm sure everything's very booked up. But we were just

495
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: wondering if there was room for a table of eight

496
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: at the tasting room today. Um uh um he can

497
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: I check with my supervisor. Of course, this is exactly

498
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: what happened. She was like, can I put you on hold? Um?

499
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: So it's bo he says, bow and yang, he says, snl, folks.

500
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can ask if she's here? Wait,

501
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: what is that? That's the blonde Okay, I mean maybe she.

502
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean she probably would have been the one to call, right,

503
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: because this is because still I think he's I know,

504
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've seen that the Titanic thing. Yeah, yeah,

505
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean that's the who it is. I don't know

506
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: if she's here. If she's here, why is the dishwasher running?

507
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Guys in our in our house? Turn that off? What

508
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: do I get back on there? And said, is Kate

509
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: McKay in with you? Like, I'm not gonna okay? You

510
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 1: were You weren't even put on hold yesterday, fan, right,

511
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: I think we can probably just if we put them

512
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: in the back pattio not not the no, not the

513
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: back pattio. If we make that okay, So if they

514
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: say we can't, if they say there's room, do we

515
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: still show audio? Do we still show up? Or is

516
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: that too embarrassing that no one else is called. It's

517
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: no one else's. It's a twenty seven minute drive. Okay, okay,

518
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: it's right, bowen hi, I think we can make that happen.

519
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: How many people are your party? Eight? Eight? Okay? So

520
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: U is anyone else going to be joining me? Um? Oh,

521
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: are you asking for names specifically? I know. I wasn't

522
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 1: goin to asking for names. It's just that, um if

523
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: we if it's eight people, we have a setup for that.

524
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: But if it's nine, we're not able to put an

525
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: extra chair on the side of the table. I wasn't

526
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: asking for extra names, and I'm not interested. I'm so sorry.

527
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to imply that you were. I did

528
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: see on the website that the seating cap for each

529
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: reservation is eight people, so I I will respect that

530
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: no one else will be joining. But thank you for asking. Okay,

531
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: thank you very helpful. And I did I did know.

532
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: I did know the seating cap in my own restaurant.

533
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um uh not to uh not to us

534
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: sink your boat? Right? Um yeah, I saw that one O.

535
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm just gonna it was Kate McKinnon with you. No,

536
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: but we who eighty Bryant Shrill Okay, we can do

537
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: we can make She was on Girls, she was in

538
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: the Oh yes, of course she was in she was

539
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: in the Shoshana story. Of course she was the boss.

540
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: H yeah, like the work superior, right her from just that. Yeah, yeah, Um,

541
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: you guys can definitely come in and um we have

542
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: a really nice area outside. Um, and that would be

543
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: really fun. Thank you so much for your helping list. Well,

544
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: I won't be here, but Kelly will, and so you

545
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: can actually ask Kelly. She's she's going to be the

546
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: hostess that's here, that gets in here at six. So

547
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: there's one host of ship from one to five, and

548
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: there's one from six to ten. Okay, so I'm seventeen,

549
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: talk two guys later. That is actually not that far

550
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: from what it actually was. I love when we do theater.

551
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: And you were really God, you're such a real performer.

552
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: One of the best performers lived in lived in not

553
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: probably not at the point where I could call for

554
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: a table ever. But so when when here's the thing

555
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: were they did they immediately know like, oh of course, yeah,

556
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: of course they know. So this girl, this girl was like,

557
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: let me put you on hold because because and this

558
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: happens all the time in their world. This is the

559
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: reason why we I would not do this anywhere else

560
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: except in the Hampton's and so and by the way,

561
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: we were staying like a very small, stuffy, charming, beautiful

562
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: house and him against it. It was not like a

563
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: rowney situation, like everyone's got their own room. It was

564
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: just like we were all like it was the type

565
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: of place where people call and they do this exactly.

566
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't the Cleveland Chilis. It wasn't the

567
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland Chilies. And so I was like, yes, please put

568
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: us on hold. And then after about thirty seconds, she

569
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: was like, we should be able to do that. Three

570
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: thirty And at that point I see fran out of

571
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: the corner of my eye, cheering silently because like this

572
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: is what she was trying to do. But but then

573
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: France for the rest of the day could not stop

574
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: talking about how she was so quickly dismissed and brushed aside,

575
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: and like that this this was the thing. And then

576
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: and then we got there. We got there and they

577
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: were very overtaxed, and you could tell because I like

578
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, we shouldn't have come here. We've

579
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: been no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. It

580
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: was wonderful because if they were over taxed, because they

581
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: probably had, like Frank kept saying, like they probably had

582
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: to buy a new oak table for us, and so

583
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: like any time like we would fit. The second we finished,

584
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: like a plate of tops or whatever server comes by,

585
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: scoops it away from us, not a beat missed, like

586
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: they need that extra plate for another table. So it

587
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: was like they were stretched thin and we really appreciate them,

588
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and they were very nice. They treated us very well,

589
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: and a lovely experience. Lovely experience. I love that you

590
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: had that. I want to go to a vineyard so badly.

591
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I've never been. I've never I've never been to a

592
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: vineyard in that capacity, neither of I. This is this,

593
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: and and there's so many nice ones in California. But

594
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: I want what I'd like to go. I would love

595
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: to go. We should go. We should go, We should go.

596
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: You and I should go. You know what I got

597
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: really excited about. What are a live performance opportunity. We

598
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: don't mean, we can't we can't reveal to tails. I

599
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: don't know that can reveal details. But we are going

600
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: to be We're doing a show and it's happening in August,

601
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: and we just can't say what it is or where.

602
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: We can't say what it is or where it is.

603
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: It will be outside, which we love, which we love,

604
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: in a very fun place. But that's all. We'll say.

605
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: That's all interesting location. Wait, this is another thing that

606
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: that happened in Palm Springs. I'll say this. The bars

607
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: are just they're they're packed. It's packed. It's cuckoo, I'm

608
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: telling you. Like, it felt like, wow, this is the

609
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: first time I was like, oh, it's it's if it's

610
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: not over. It's like, you can't tell these people it's

611
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: not over. You're not telling them to rein it in

612
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: and it felt incredible. I did go to an event

613
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: or two when I returned to New York where it

614
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: was you got to have the EXCELS your pass or

615
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: proof of or electronic proof of vaccination or cial proof

616
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: of vaccination in order to get inside, which I actually

617
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: am like great, like that is like that is like

618
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: compliant with like the science and the guidelines. And I

619
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: was like, but there there were moments I was with

620
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp and we were like, Okay, this feels this

621
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: feels like it's normal. But in a way that is

622
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: overwhelming and disorienting. And then we went to thy Sunderland's

623
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: birthday and it was eighties themed and the music was

624
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: eighties and it was amazing. And then there were moments

625
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: were like him and I were just like, oh my god,

626
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: what time period. This sounds so silly, but we were

627
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: both like, I truly do feel transported, and it feels

628
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: like it's pre COVID in a real way, with like

629
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: the music and all that. Like I forgot that. It

630
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: was in a way that was both scary and satisfying.

631
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: It was so crazy. We were walking into one of

632
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: the establishments and Palm Springs and I was just like,

633
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: it's I immediately flashed back to the last time I

634
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: was there, and it didn't feel any different. Yet we

635
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: all had had the experience of not being able to

636
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: do that, so it did feel I will say, cathartic

637
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: in many ways, but also it just it also then

638
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: was just like it was just odd because it was like, oh,

639
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: it feels like a million years have passed, but also

640
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: feels like this has just happened, and I just it

641
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: is disorienting. It's so odd to go back to a

642
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: place where it's just like yep, we and I wish

643
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: that everywhere I went. I wish I could say everywhere

644
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: I went was like and we need to see that

645
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: excelsior past, But that wasn't see that. That would give

646
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: that would make me a little nervous. It doesn't give

647
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: me the kb gbs though, because I'm vaccinated, and I'm

648
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: one of those people that's like, I don't know how

649
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: you feel now that I'm vaccinated. I'm out there. I'm

650
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: going for it. I like and listen, I I don't

651
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: know how many more studies we need to see that

652
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: are like, if you're vaccinated, you're extremely unlikely. The numbers

653
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: in California and southern California are very loud. They're so

654
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: far down there that it just it feels safe, and

655
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: it almost it feels like at this point, like the

656
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: venues that aren't open open, or the the areas where

657
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: you have to sort of still do the I'll just

658
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: say mask drag um in that sort of way. I'm

659
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: just kind of like, really like is this helping at

660
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: this point? Like I don't know in terms of capital

661
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 1: CE really capital PC pop culture. Um, let's just say

662
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: that whenever oppressed these mini series sort of trots along

663
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: whenever they roll out a new one with one of

664
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: the ladies and the lead role, and it looks like

665
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: it has the potential you always hope it will end

666
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: like Mayra East Town ended. I was thoroughly entertained, touched, moved,

667
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: felt um felt uh like, I like it provoked thoughts

668
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: within me by this piece of work. I loved it.

669
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: I can't believe how much it managed to do much

670
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: in the same The last time I felt this way,

671
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: honestly not to be a bitch, was Watchman was thinking,

672
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: how did they do all of that? It was so

673
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: great and like a cab includes Mayor whatever. Jesus Christ,

674
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I but I we'll cut that out. Well,

675
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: no we are not. But I mean I just, I

676
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: literally I posted this thing that Aaron Jackson wrote on Instagram,

677
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: and he was he was kind of like doing a

678
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: bit on our It was like Mayor voted for Trump,

679
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Mayor Mayor's Blue lives matter whatever. And this is why

680
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: we can't just appreciate what Kate Winslet has done, because

681
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it about Mayor voted for Trump. I

682
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: don't even think Mayor voted for Trump. I don't think

683
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: vote for Trump because Chavon, because chavan having a gay

684
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: daughter made her think, I'm not going to vote for

685
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: that man. You know who voted for Trump, the guy

686
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: who stops her in the convenience store. I think Lorie

687
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: voted for Trump because her husband voted for Trump. And

688
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: I think Lorie is that kind of person who voted

689
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: for Trump because her husband voted for And Katie's mom,

690
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: I think Trump Katie's mom. Katie's felt left behind by

691
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: the system. Well, like the fact like if if my

692
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: daughter had been kidnapped, I would be full Q. I'd

693
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: be like the pedophiles are out there, They're like, I

694
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: would be full Q because it's that case. She was right, yeah, yeah, yeah, um.

695
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: But anyway, Mayor of Easttown, Fantastic TV transcended even the

696
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: barrier to entry that would be, Oh, I'm going to

697
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: watch a show about cops. It's not it's it's it's you.

698
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: I forgot. I forgot that, which is making which is

699
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: maybe the most It is a show about it's about

700
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: it's a show about family, it's a show about generational trauma.

701
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: And I will say this, it's also a show about

702
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: the patriarchy. But not in a way that I felt

703
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: they were like at the end, they were like men

704
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: did this to us? Like this was about like I

705
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, like Mayor and Lorie their relationship,

706
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: like it's just so interesting because they both I mean,

707
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Kate Winslett was so incredible, Julianne Nicholson was unbelievable in

708
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: that last episode. They were so amazing together, and they

709
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: really I think, um, we're able to capture a sort

710
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: of energy and mentality that a lot of like these

711
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: like women this age have and people this age have,

712
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: which is like you get the sense that they're always

713
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: tired because that's what they're truly working class like, and

714
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: there's there's just this sense of satin And honestly, I

715
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: did like it as like a not and you know

716
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: we are actually it is still the Trump era, but

717
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: as a Trump era piece of work. I thought, I

718
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: get us that this reminds me of a type of

719
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: community that is so literally depressed. Like not to say

720
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: that there that it's sad where they live, but there's

721
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: just a lot of people, you know. There was like

722
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: that scene where the Dylan's new girlfriend because she had

723
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: gotten in trouble, was like, well, now I can't go

724
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: to college, so I'm gonna go to the beauty shop.

725
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: And these people that have lived in these towns all

726
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: their life and everyone knows each other and they're all

727
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: up in each other's business. Like that scares me sometimes

728
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: because I think when people's worlds are very small, um,

729
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: they they resist um big ideas from outside the world.

730
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: And so I think that's what But but I will

731
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: say that I felt that this community of people was

732
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: humanized by the fact that they love their family, Like

733
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: you get a sense, a real sense in this show

734
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: about what's important to these people. Their relationships are very

735
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: clear year and very specific, and I think that was

736
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: a real strength of it being set in such a

737
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: specific like you know, Philly Town, East Town, because um,

738
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: it made it like it was like the Sopranos in

739
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: that way, and that was like a literal family, Like

740
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: I felt like every character had a real sense of

741
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: personhood place like you really got where they were coming from.

742
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: And it did sort of you know, I didn't make

743
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: heroes are like but I thought it like really flesh

744
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: these people out of tragic figures in a way that

745
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: I don't think often people in like communities like this

746
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: get that on television, sure, or you never get a

747
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: good sense of how these people know each other or

748
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: relate to each other. I think the fact that it's

749
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: Mayor and Laurie and and the other her other friends

750
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: or her other people who she knows in the East town.

751
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: The fact that, for some reason I love and obsessed

752
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: with the detail that they were all on the same

753
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: basketball team in high school. Me too, I love that.

754
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: I think that's so that's such a great smart way

755
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: of like okay, like the relationships are like settled in

756
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: and there's we don't have to really explain them, but

757
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: we just you you just get to demonstrate in a

758
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: couple of scenes like what this is, what this was?

759
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: You go to the reunion, you go to the thing

760
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: where they come out, and you know, they give them

761
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: the they hang the band or the award whatever it

762
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: was in that pilot in the in the first episode,

763
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, great, Okay, then, like that answers so many

764
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: quiet like you don't have. It doesn't feel like an introduction,

765
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: and it feels like this is all um organic, I

766
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, well, this is what I liked about it.

767
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: This is like a more substinct way of saying what

768
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: I was saying, it was it got really specific with

769
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: what this town was, where it was, who these people were,

770
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: even the accent work. And this is why I think

771
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: it's so important that they got so specific with the

772
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: accent work. And I think that was one of Kate

773
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: Winslet's like number one things. So she was like, we're

774
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: all going to do the accent because it's going to

775
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: make the more characters, the characters more specific, and that's

776
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: going to make the whole show more specific. So basically

777
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: it's like you really they really felt very real. And

778
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: it when when when the source material and the writing

779
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: is that specific, and you know what, you get that

780
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: specific with the costuming, you allow the actors to get

781
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: so specific and so nuanced. And this, I think across

782
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: the board was some of the best ensemble acting I

783
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: had seen a really long time, and it was and

784
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: it was a big cast. So that's why I say

785
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: it reminded me of the Sopranos because it was like

786
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: really good work from a lot of people, and and

787
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: for that many people to feel clear and the relationship

788
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: to feel clear is really tough. Obviously, Like Kate Winslett

789
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: is the number one person on the call sheet and

790
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: she like, lad this through all the way I think

791
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 1: this is the best work of her career. But all

792
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: the way down, this is really really really good work.

793
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Down to we gotta shout out. So see miss soci Bacon.

794
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys, that's our friends, Socie is.

795
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: We've known Socie for a long time, and she fucking

796
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: crushed Socie Brava. That was phenomenal. And oh boy, did

797
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: I pick the wrong fucking night to get Stone and

798
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: watch Mayor there during that bathtub at this scene, Oh no,

799
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: that was not the vibe I actually had. I had

800
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: deposit I had deposited and walk away. I was like,

801
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: this is too much. I was about to weep and

802
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: just wheeze from like shocked. I was like, no, no, no,

803
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: I So at three, at this point we should say

804
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. So at this point we're gonna say we

805
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: have not been spoiler not given anything. We've only talked

806
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: about the quality. But another thing about the show is

807
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: that is not one of the outcomes. I guessed, oh,

808
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about on the mystery level. Yes, well,

809
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: but and yet it's still like the show itself build

810
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: out the mystery in a very like time tested way.

811
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: It's like like it's all there. It's there, it's it's

812
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: a Christie novel, it's literally but and yet it's also

813
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: like a show about depressed community, about um family, about

814
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: intergenerational trauma, about all these things, about the Patriot It's like,

815
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: how do they do all that? Yeah, it was, it was,

816
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: And I think it's because they got specific with the characters,

817
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: and especially with the lead character. We knew so much

818
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: about her from the beginning, Like we knew that she

819
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: had a like like a storied athletic past locally, we

820
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: knew that she was divorced. She was like like like

821
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: she was put on a pedestal as this hero of

822
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: the town. And yes, yes, she's always chased that and

823
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: and and that's also the fact of the matter, being

824
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: that she was dealing with the suicide of her son.

825
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: And so just how much we and I think that's

826
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: like really tough to do, Like you have to know

827
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: that in order to get that much across like that

828
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: quickly in the first episode, you have to be really good.

829
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: So shout out to the writer and director of this

830
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, Craig Dobel, and I believe Brad Gillespie is

831
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: the name of the Yes Brad Inglesby. So this was

832
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: really good because think about how much we knew in

833
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: that first episode, and that wasn't and it was a

834
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: compelling episode. And it wasn't even the murder, you know

835
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: what I mean that it doesn't even happen and they

836
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: don't find her until the second episode, and that was

837
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: also compelling. And so I just but to be And

838
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: I think one of the best episodes of television of

839
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: the year is that fifth episode that ends in spoiler

840
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: alert when um, when your boy dies, When your boy dies.

841
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: But I never they did. They did full vulture right

842
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: up about how they had to shoot that scene over

843
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: like three separate days or something or there was was

844
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: three different sets, but maybe it was shot over like

845
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 1: the course of like a week or two or something

846
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: like that. Um. But that pilot too, where I didn't

847
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: I didn't read enough of like the discourse around this

848
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: during the pilot because because I got onto it like

849
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: episode four, I I came on in the middle of

850
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: the season. But we're people thinking that like the air

851
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: and stuff when they cut to Aaron like texting, like

852
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: I thought that they were that. I thought those are

853
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: flashbacks and the way that the way that interplays with

854
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: like like it's like Kate Staple, It's it's Mayor stapling

855
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: the Katie like missing girl Katie posters as it leads

856
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: up to Aaron getting murdered, and so the audience has

857
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: led to believe that this is that girl, and like

858
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: and then there's a there's an extra layer of shock

859
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: when you realize it's a different person, And I'm just like,

860
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: how the funk do you do that? In the pilot?

861
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: I think that you um experience it like that, and

862
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: it is a valid way to experience it. I did

863
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: not think it was a flashback. I thought I was

864
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: thinking it was like a different girl, And honestly, I

865
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: did not know that she was going to be the

866
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: girl that died, because they were referencing that other girl,

867
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, maybe that's the mystery we're experiencing here,

868
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: and this character, the girl is going to come into

869
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: play another way, maybe she'll get abducted or something. I

870
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: did not know she was going to be the murder victims.

871
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: So I think that you're right that that is like

872
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: it was like a sort of maybe valid misdirect in

873
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: the show. But but when you go back and watch

874
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: it and you know that the Sun was sending the

875
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: text and you see her getting the text and sending

876
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: It's just because I did go back and watch the

877
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: first two episodes that that's that who that's the Sun

878
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: was saying the text to the dad, No, the text

879
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: to the girl because she was watching the first episode

880
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: that the person she was texting was John was yeah,

881
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: and so, and it's just it's they did it well

882
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: because because after that last episode, I did go back

883
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, because I am the kind of person.

884
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you heard my review of Promising Young Woman.

885
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: When a logic thing doesn't work for me, like, I

886
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: can't let it go. So I went back to the

887
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: two first two episodes and it's pretty good. They did

888
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: a pretty damn good job. And it's really fun to

889
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: watch the performances of the cousins, Uh, Billy and John

890
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: now that you know they knew everything that was happening.

891
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: And it's really fun to track the son Ryan because

892
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: you now you see him the whole time and you

893
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: know he's killed someone, so it really fills in the

894
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, they did do a really interesting

895
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: thing with a lot of scenes where like, for example,

896
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: when we see and I believe the sixth episode, John

897
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: saying to Billy, I need you to say it, and

898
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: he says I killed her, Like that was that was

899
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: a trick on the audience. We didn't know we were

900
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: joining that scene in the media rez as they say,

901
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: in progress. But they do that a lot. They also

902
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: did that when John was telling yes and so they

903
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: used that a couple of times and so but they

904
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: But I never felt like I was being cheated by

905
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: the show. But ever never, And it's like, oh, this

906
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: is the thing you can only do in a piece

907
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: of film or a piece of like a piece of television,

908
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: where it's like you wouldn't be able to do that.

909
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: And let's say, I not get the Christie novel. No,

910
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: it's so genius. And first of all, I need to

911
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: I think this is the summer where I get into

912
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: Miss Agatha. I mean also also problematic, very the blue print,

913
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: but also like you know, Agatha, Christie and Friends has

914
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: something in common very you know, problematic pass um, but

915
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: murder on the links. I mean, I'm getting into Miss

916
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: Parow dear. But it is really, it is, really it's

917
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: fun to be a part of it. I do think

918
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: this was superior to the Undoing, which now in retrospect

919
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: really magnitude. Yeah, yeah, it really feels like soapy camp

920
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: now looking back, which is fine, Like we love soapy camp.

921
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: But what I liked about Mayor of Eastown is I

922
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: genuinely felt it honestly reminded me of big little lies

923
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: where I felt at the end of the show it

924
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: had said something, you know what I mean, Like I

925
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: didn't think the Undoing said anything besides that basic basic

926
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: thing of like you never know if you think your

927
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: husband did it, he did it, like you don't know

928
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: your partner. It wasn't really poignant to me, It's just interesting.

929
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: But we I'm still traumatized by seeing sucking Ellen Alvez

930
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: being bludgeoned to death so many times, like there are

931
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things about the Undoing that

932
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: I still dislike deeply. Yeah, Well, the under did not

933
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: have respect for her as a as a woman, and

934
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: they treated her like a body and a victim. Literally

935
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: when we find her murdered, her face is bludgeoned in,

936
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: but her like deck lttage, is exposed pristine, and she's

937
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: new in the very first episode, and she's she's that

938
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: typical like exotic victim that shows like this love and

939
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: I honestly was surprised that Nicole didn't have more involvement

940
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: in that or changed that more because she was one

941
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: of the producers of Big Little Lies and you feel

942
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: hat does know more about this type of thing. I digress.

943
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: I felt like Mayor of Easttown, even in the violence

944
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: and in the scoring, and there was like a real

945
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: reverence and respect for the fact that this was a

946
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: human being. They never like, you know, even though right

947
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: even though she was like discovered in a state of undressed,

948
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: like we don't linger on her Adie, we see, we

949
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: were mostly on Mayor and realizing this is the fact

950
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: that this is a child that she knows, you know

951
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, yes, there was a quote unquote

952
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: violence against women in this show, but it felt like, um,

953
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: it was a service to a to a story and

954
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: to a uh a lesson or something. It was never

955
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: cinematized or dramatized in a way that was like all right, okay, yeah, yeah,

956
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: and it it also is about the loss of children,

957
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: and I think, especially like with Mayor and Lori at

958
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: the end, like you know, Mayor who has lost her son,

959
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: ends up being instrumental in Lorie losing hers But I think,

960
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: and I think some people are on one side of

961
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: it where they're like, I can see why maybe it

962
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: was going to be satisfying for her to let her

963
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: have her son, because you know, um, she knows what

964
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: it's like to lose one. But I genuinely think it

965
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: was the right thing for her to do, because what

966
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: happens if the kid gets away with it is he's

967
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: going to live with that secret, and the family is

968
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: going to live with that secret. Is going to rob

969
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: them from the inside, and we see what happens to

970
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: people in a town like that when they give up.

971
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think it was the right thing

972
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: to do, And I felt like it was so satisfying

973
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: that the moment where Kate finds out, where Kate figures

974
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: out what really happens, I mean, God, Kate winslet She

975
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: was not false for a second. She was real and

976
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: grounded and compelling and captivating from every frame. It was

977
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: a masterclass in every frame, the like her, the flashback

978
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 1: to her going up, the addict, going up, the addict,

979
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: the collapsing, and then like mustering up the strength to

980
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm like how the fuck do you do that on

981
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: any level physically. It's because she she got specific. I'm

982
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: telling you she is. She is one of our best

983
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: and she's and I will say that she has had

984
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: like you know, Ammann, I was a lot of people

985
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: really liked it. Um, it didn't slam as much as

986
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: hard as I think they all think it was going to.

987
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: But she's kind of had a rough few years. Like

988
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: I know, not a lot of people love jobs. You know,

989
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 1: she had that weirdness where she was working with Woody

990
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: Allen for a second and she apologized. And I feel

991
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: like things haven't necessarily been popping off for Kate since

992
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: she won an oscar, really, but this was like I

993
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: think she really took the time to find something where

994
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 1: she could really dig in and get specific. I think

995
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: that she was genius to work on this, and she

996
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: from the very beginning also managed to be funny. It's like,

997
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: this is such a cheap thing to point out, but

998
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: like her like eating things is great as it's such

999
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: a great thing to watch. Just a lot of like

1000
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: lived in little moments. Um. The relationship with her and

1001
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: Jean Smart was so that mother and daughter, like not

1002
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: even for a second where they like, you know, it's

1003
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: it's usually right before they even start talking to each other.

1004
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: You know, they're annoyed and every single interaction and that's

1005
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: important in the in the East Coast. Oh, that's funny,

1006
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: That's really funny. Um. I'm sorry, I'm being such a dumbass,

1007
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: but I told you right that, or I told Sudie

1008
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: for sure that Kate texted Jeans Smart the murdered sketch.

1009
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: She did, because I think she said this on seth Myers. Um.

1010
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: But Kate sent Jeane Smart the murder sketch, which means

1011
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: that she watched she did, And can I can I

1012
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: actually say something about not to go not to bring

1013
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: up the uh like women violence against women as it's

1014
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: portrayed on tv UM. But being in the murder sketch,

1015
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: there wasn't There was an actor who was the body,

1016
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: who was playing the body that was a real person

1017
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: under this piece of cloth. And there was such even

1018
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: just in this little sketch that was shot over the

1019
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: course of like eight hours at like you know, three

1020
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: in the morning on on Friday night, there was something

1021
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: really upsetting and alarming on a visceral level for me

1022
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: as a person to stand there and like I think,

1023
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this would be for anybody, but

1024
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: like this like presumably naked, that this naked woman under

1025
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: a sheet, like standing there and like having it sort

1026
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: of dissonantly be like, oh, okay, that's this person's alive

1027
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: and they're okay and they're comfortable and all this stuff,

1028
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, but wait, this is just like hard.

1029
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: This is you have to make such a conscious choice

1030
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: to like peel back the layers on this. And that's

1031
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: what upsets me even more when I think back on

1032
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: the undoing, It's like it's it was a choice for

1033
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: them to keep showing that body and the and the

1034
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: and and and the violence and and the face and

1035
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: the and the head being bludgeoned. That's why I do

1036
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: think it's important though, because and and not this not

1037
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 1: to be like unfun because like I said, the undoing

1038
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: was very fun to watch, and it's no disrespect like

1039
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: we love Nicole, we loved watching across the Street, but

1040
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 1: and it was stupid and silly and it was even thrilling.

1041
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: But the difference between this and that is like like

1042
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: with in Mayor VI East Town, even in that scene

1043
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: where you see what happens with Ryan and Aaron. There's

1044
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: almost like like an elegance to the way that they

1045
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: shot it. Um, and maybe this is and also just

1046
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: understand that if I'm giving a little bit of a

1047
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: problem out of take here, genuinely, it's it's coming from

1048
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: a place of like I'm trying to find a way

1049
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: that we can do these things, and like, um, it

1050
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 1: not feel like the undoing felt like when I watched

1051
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: Mayra v. East Town, I felt sad for everyone involved.

1052
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a tragedy. When I was

1053
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: watching the Undoing, I just felt like angry and upset.

1054
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, this feels like pulp in

1055
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: a way that's just like this actually happens to women

1056
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: all the time and we're just having fun with it

1057
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: and still sexualized. Like this isn't yeah different, This isn't

1058
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: problematic at all. I don't actually mean it's a problematic

1059
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: take Um. What what I mean is just like I

1060
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: don't know how people feel about even this being a

1061
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: constant thing, Like literally this is like you know, if

1062
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: it's this seems to be the seven the you know,

1063
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: seventh or ninth show in a row where it's like

1064
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: a girl is murdered. You know, I get that it's like, um,

1065
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: it's I guess that it's like a trope of television.

1066
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying like, let's see a boy murdered,

1067
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: but it's just it, just as you know, I wonder

1068
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: how people feel about it, that it's just again and

1069
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: again and again and again. I'm a little worn out

1070
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: by it. I don't know. I don't know, but I

1071
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: think this is what Hollywood does, which is they take

1072
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: one thing that is somewhat successful and then they drive

1073
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: it into the ground. But um, I thought this was fantastic.

1074
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: I thought this was this And watchment Or like probably

1075
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: my favorite mini series in the last decade or so.

1076
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: I just, oh, god, so good. You still have watched Watchman?

1077
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you just a flop. I am going

1078
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: to watch Okay, So just so you know, like I

1079
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: have been branching out and I've been watching different things.

1080
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: And also I'm going to be doing I can't say

1081
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: what this is yet, but I'm going to be doing

1082
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 1: a podcast that is me watching and I'm actually quite

1083
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: excited about it. I'm very excited to listen to it.

1084
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: And I'll discussed more about that later, but I'm going

1085
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: to be branching out and getting over myself a little

1086
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: bit more because I am ready to branch out from

1087
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of it All on the reality TV

1088
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: of it All. That being said, have you watched New

1089
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: York and Beverly Hills so far? I have not watched

1090
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. I've I've only watched up until the like

1091
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: the episode where they were Ramona. I was gonna say

1092
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: they bully Ramona, but no, it's just Ramona being fucking

1093
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: I want to fucking you don't love Ramona. I it's

1094
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: I really there are. I don't think I have this

1095
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: level of disdain for anyone. She is not your girl.

1096
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: She's not my girl. They cut my thing out when

1097
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: I was on watch It Happens live. It might be

1098
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: the reason I've never invited back. But I called out

1099
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: Ramona for being a fucking racist. Well listen, here's what

1100
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, um she I think that Ramona is quote

1101
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: unquote trying. I don't know. So I am wary of

1102
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: her at all times because that person what happened to her.

1103
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: As like a season starts, everyone's like, oh, we're back

1104
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: on board, and then it ends and it's like we

1105
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: she needs to go, and then somehow she sneaks back

1106
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: in and she Maybe it's because sometimes it is funny

1107
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: and ridiculous to watch what she does and says. But

1108
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. I don't think there's

1109
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: value in that anymore. She's she's been doing this for

1110
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: twelve fucking year, thirteen fucking years, and it's and it's bad.

1111
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: It's tired. That person, that type of I'm sorry woman

1112
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: in reality TV. I think ink. I don't think she

1113
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: should be the template for what housewives are. I don't

1114
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: think we'd miss her. I don't think that I rarely

1115
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: miss anyone. Like right now, I'll say this, like I

1116
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: love Dorenda. I don't miss I do, and she needs

1117
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: to go figure it out. I just don't like it.

1118
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: And this is the thing that there's Sonya this year too,

1119
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't like it when the narrative is so

1120
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: and so is drunk struggling. I don't struggling. Yes, is

1121
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: one thing, but oftentimes on this franchise, they're struggling because

1122
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: they're drunk all the time. And like, I don't want

1123
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: to watch a narrative happened on this particular show anymore

1124
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: where the narrative is, oh, this person is wasted and

1125
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: it's stopping. It's just to New York. It's they have

1126
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: a serious problem. And I think that, you know, it's

1127
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: good that Luan and Leah are sober, but Sonya, she's

1128
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: just it's so tough to watch. It's just hard to watch.

1129
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: And I literally mean that it's hard to watch it.

1130
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: And so I don't want to get to the point

1131
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: where I don't anymore, but I may, but I do

1132
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: think there's other good things about it. But Beverly Hills

1133
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: has been where it's at. Okay, this might be the

1134
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: season that I fully start sort of on top, like

1135
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, in real time, and watch it in real time.

1136
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: And we're getting Potomac back soon. I can't wait for Potomac.

1137
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: Potomac is. Potomac is like the ideal current version of

1138
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: that kind of show for me, where it's like I

1139
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: want to like on some level all of these women.

1140
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's that fun. I don't

1141
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: love to hate any of these people, like I really

1142
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: love it when it's like I am I care about

1143
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: what happens to this to all of these people sort

1144
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: of like and That's why, like that that is the

1145
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: value prop of the full of the of the show.

1146
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: It's like, these are a group of women were following,

1147
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna see them interact with each other. You should

1148
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: be able to be interested in any iteration of or

1149
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 1: any like you know, permutation of these women in a room. Yeah,

1150
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: I do check I do check out when it's Ramona

1151
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't want to know what this

1152
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: fucking dark ass person is going through. You don't really

1153
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: feel like you're getting a sense of like what's up

1154
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: up there? You know what I mean? Because it's just

1155
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: so cypical with her speaking of all this. I'm sorry

1156
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: the COVID of it all. It's in York. I think

1157
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: I think it's hard in New York. But I think,

1158
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: like I love that we're all like ditched the mask

1159
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: for the most part. Now love that. But I think

1160
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: there should still not be too much collective amnesia about

1161
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: the people who fucking sucked in the beginning, including Ramona

1162
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: fucking singer. You're talking. This is interesting because there was

1163
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 1: the scene where like Leah was confronting her about lying

1164
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: about donating the plaza, about lying about which is a

1165
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: fucking despicable lie. Yeah, And so I was sitting there,

1166
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: I was watching with Jardan Joel, and I remember thinking

1167
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: to myself like, alright, like, is Lea going in a

1168
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: little hard now? And then then you know what, this

1169
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: is what I remembered. They shot it in like October,

1170
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: So honestly, I was like, I think that is just

1171
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: my like may of it all talking because if it

1172
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: was October and it had just come out, and this

1173
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: is like and by the way, COVID's going to get

1174
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: worse from this point, like from from the point where

1175
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: they are. So like if I was, if we were

1176
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 1: truly in the throes of COVID and someone was there

1177
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: and I knew for a fact that she lied about

1178
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: donating the platelets, like I would into you, I would

1179
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: have gone into sucking hate Ramona Singer. Do you see

1180
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: my face right now? Yeah? I see your face. You're

1181
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: literally beat red and see her it's on site. Well

1182
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: it certainly when and here's what I'm gonna say. This

1183
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: is coming from someone we've fallen very far, because you

1184
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: are someone who once saw her on the street and

1185
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: went up to her for a picture. Because back because

1186
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: this was what season seven or whatever, it's like five

1187
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: years ago, I was just like, I was just a

1188
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: fucking random little faggot that she's probably been a million

1189
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: different times being Ramona and take a picture, and I

1190
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: fully I've walked into that person as like as in

1191
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: like that kind of person who would approach her that way,

1192
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: And it was she was truly had such dark energy

1193
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: emanating for her ports and you can cheel it. I

1194
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: could feel it. I can feel it. Also. The not

1195
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: being able to remember anyone's name ever, it just means

1196
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: you don't think about anyone but yourself, like flat out,

1197
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: and so how can you trust someone like that? You

1198
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: need to be able to remember people's names when you've

1199
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: met them fifteen times? I literally hated you. I hate

1200
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: it when I've met someone three times and they go

1201
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: have we met? It's like, oh god, you make me

1202
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: feel small. And of course I would never make an

1203
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: issue of it, because I also don't think so honey

1204
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: when I when I do that to someone and I

1205
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: know it's only been one time, or I'm just trying

1206
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: to be polite and be like, hey, we've met before,

1207
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: and like and they go, yeah, set many times, I

1208
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: would never do that, but I also don't like it

1209
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: happens to me. Oh no, oh no, no, I'm with you.

1210
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm with you anyway. I'm sorry. I just no, yeah,

1211
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: you had to go off. I oh, Ramona, Um, but

1212
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: I will, I will start Beverly Hills. I needs just good.

1213
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: It's just good. And so hold on, hold on. No,

1214
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: you're misdirecting, because I need you to watch watchmen like

1215
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: you and you and you and this new like m

1216
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: C U kick. I love it. I love it for you,

1217
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: But you are you need to round out your consumption.

1218
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: You're you're you're diet of you know, superhero comic bookie

1219
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: things with watching. It's one of the best types of

1220
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: It's one of the best things out of that genre.

1221
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: If you want to lump it in with like all

1222
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: all the m C stuff, I will absolutely watch it.

1223
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: I've just I've had a few other shows I was watching,

1224
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm watching now in treatment. I wanted

1225
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 1: to bring this up with with and can I say

1226
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: I think that when Uzzo was an Orange of the

1227
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: New Luck, maybe it's just just because Orange the New

1228
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: Luck went on for a long time and Crazy Eyes

1229
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: was such a fixture for a while there. When she

1230
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: first hit the scene, I was like, Oh, she's incredible,

1231
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: and then I think I just got so much crazy

1232
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: eyes from her that I was like, Okay, uzzoduba whatever, Uzzo,

1233
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: I love Uzo. Uzzo is so good. Like literally, there

1234
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: there are scenes basically have you ever watched the olden Treatment?

1235
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the old one? But then who is

1236
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: that that woman who ended up being on Gray's Melissa

1237
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: George Melissa George. Yes, so she's fantastic on it. Yeah, yeah,

1238
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: but I in Treatment has this weird I first, Okay,

1239
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: my physics teacher who was an asshole, my physics professor

1240
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: who was an asshole in college standing treatment a way

1241
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: that actually made me not want to watch the show.

1242
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't like you. You like in Treatment.

1243
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: You you keep mentoring it in her lectures about, you know,

1244
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: light physics, and I don't want I don't want to

1245
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: watch the show. It's that. That's my stupid little hang up.

1246
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the show. Go on, Well, um,

1247
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: you should try to get over that, because I actually

1248
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: think it's a very it's a really good show. And

1249
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: basically what it is for people that don't know is

1250
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: they released four episodes a week and Uzo Adubo plays

1251
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: a therapist. Originally it was Gabriel burn in the the

1252
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 1: original version that came out about fifteen years ago. So

1253
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: she plays a therapist. Then every week they released four

1254
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: episodes and she has three clients and then one is

1255
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 1: like her getting her help. So, um, Anthony Rommel's plays

1256
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: one of the people she's therapizing. And then it's John

1257
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: Michael Higgins. No, that's not's not true. That's not true.

1258
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: That's not true. Oh god, what is this. No, it's

1259
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's John Benjamin Hickey. Can we take

1260
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: that again? Um, John Benjamin Hickey. And Um. Then this

1261
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: other girl I don't know, but her name is Quintessa Swindel.

1262
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: I believe, and yeah, so so and every episode is

1263
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Speaker 1: like a twenty six minute session with one of them.

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01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: And so they released all four and then the next

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01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: week you'll see all four again. It's week one, week two,

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Speaker 1: week three before so you follow their therapy sessions and

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01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: so every episode is like a thirty minute therapy session. Um.

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Speaker 1: And it's just it's like a long play each episode,

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: and it's just really good acting and they're there, there

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01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: are issues that they eventually find the therapy sessions are

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: very specific. Like I said before, with May Time, you

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01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: gotta get specific, and it's just again it's like the

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01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: acting is so good. And then in like the fourth episode,

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01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: which is the one that focuses on Uso every week,

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: you get a sense of what she is going through.

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: And she's also very personally compelling. So you see her

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: at her job and see how the people that are

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01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: her clients affect her, and then see how she's acting

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01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: in her own life, and it's just interesting to see

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01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: the like tortured inner life of someone who has to

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: provide stability to these people and help them get to

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01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: the core of what's going on. And it does take

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: place during COVID, which I was like it, but then

1284
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, well, that's what kind of makes

1285
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: it a show for now, is you know that? That's

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01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: that's the reason to reboot it. Exactly exactly love it.

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01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: And Uso is also dressed down. Oh the looks I

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01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: see I'm seeing from these stills. I'm like, oh, like

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01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: you love to see her so glam because again I

1290
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: also I only thought of her as crazy Eyes, and

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: also she was in The Whiz and I hadn't really

1292
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: seen her in anything else. But but she is. She

1293
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: is a glamazon in this and she fox the actor

1294
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 1: Joel Kinneman, who is one of the hottest in the

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01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: on the Globe and we love to see on the

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01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: Globe and we love to see it. Um, but I'll

1297
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 1: put Watchman on my list. Have you been watching Legendary

1298
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: this season? I have to be honest with you, I haven't.

1299
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: I haven't. I didn't know. I loved the first season,

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01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: but I haven't started it yet because I think it's

1301
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: going to be one that I want to binge like. Um,

1302
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: I don't know about watching the reality week to week,

1303
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: like after Drag Race, I just need a little bit

1304
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: of a break from reality. All I understand. But they're

1305
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: it's so dynamic and it's an incredible season. I mean

1306
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: truly some amazing thing things that I'm like, oh my god,

1307
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: I can't believe I get to watch that, like so great.

1308
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: We just we we stand House of t Shirt, House

1309
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: of Balenciaga. Um, okay, I'll get I'll get into two

1310
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: very yes, you must be two very different house mothers

1311
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: who are presenting very valid styles of house mother of

1312
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: house parenting. But one of them is just going to

1313
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: like stand there and like serve you a moment and

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01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: face and the other one is like kind of voguing

1315
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: along with the other children. But both are presenting very

1316
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: compelling cases for why they should win. Um, I'm excited.

1317
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 1: It's and and and and it just looks great and

1318
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: it just looks so good. And how the judging the judging?

1319
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: I asked this question, how is the judge judging? You know,

1320
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: I for what you and I have been hard on

1321
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: miss low Roach for a minute, because when when we

1322
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 1: used to recap Top Model for Vulture, we really we

1323
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: were really not feeling him. We were we did not

1324
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: feel that law Roach brought a good energy to the show. No,

1325
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: and you some might argue, I even up until last night,

1326
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: thought law Roach is bad energy for the show, even

1327
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 1: for legendary even still. Um, but I was talking to

1328
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp about this, and Josh is like, I actually

1329
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,520
Speaker 1: like law Roach because he is giving you a chaotic

1330
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: energy on that in that setting where it makes sense

1331
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: because that is ballroom. It's opinion, it's as it really is,

1332
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 1: just like, well I didn't like your shoes, so seven.

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, well I loved your name, so

1334
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 1: ten ten, that's a ten. For me, it's like, oh

1335
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: my god, none of the none of the judging of

1336
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: the school I just love you so tends across the

1337
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: board exactly. But that does work for legendary and not

1338
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: top model because it needs to be that needs to

1339
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: be in the it needs to play within a rubric totally.

1340
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: And and that is part of ballroom culture where you

1341
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: have the judging is where everyone gets upset because the

1342
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: scores are you know, like that is like the essential

1343
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: to ballroom where people are like wronged by the rubric.

1344
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: Or there's one just and that's just the way it

1345
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: is exactly, or the one particular judges like it's like,

1346
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: what the funk are you talking like? And ma roach

1347
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: serves that purpose And then I mean, I mean the

1348
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: phrase you did what needed to be done is perfect.

1349
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: You did what needed to be done. Megan the world,

1350
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: Queen of the World, always legs outsplayed on that chair,

1351
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 1: one knee over the arm rest, looking so cool and

1352
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: casual and has Jamila sort of I Jamila has a

1353
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 1: critical eye. She still has not departed from that bang

1354
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: um and that says it all. Oh my god, I

1355
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: would love to see her in like a damn wig.

1356
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: I want to know she has she puts on some wigs,

1357
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: but it's all I want to just see her forehead.

1358
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: And I actually we probably we're gonna fucking get No.

1359
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 1: I think we should. I think we could do. We

1360
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: could do with some aesthetic versatility from Jamila, Jamila, beautiful woman,

1361
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful women in the world, one

1362
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: of the most beautiful women in the world. Jamila. Let's see,

1363
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 1: let's see some different shapes along the the front portion

1364
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: of the hair of what you're We're only assessing this

1365
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: because it is essential to ballroom culture that you are

1366
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: giving us runaway by coming out in your looks every episode,

1367
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: and you're serving his face and body and glamour. But

1368
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: I want to see some variety in the hair because

1369
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: Leaomi gives you variety, Megan gives your variety. Law Roach

1370
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: gives you variety. And as as as Lady Gaga once said,

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: hair body face sace for you, not just two out

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01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: of the three. And that's a little culture. One hundred

1373
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: and six. As lady said, hair body, body face, not

1374
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: just two three. Um, before we sort of proceed on

1375
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: too much, UM, I have to ask you what you

1376
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: think of the album of the moment. The pop girl

1377
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: of the moment has released her album, and I should

1378
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: say I don't think I've spoken to you since. Her

1379
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: SNL performance, which I hear you watched from the floor,

1380
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: was stuning Driver's License on the floor of SNL by

1381
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: Olivia Rodrigo was a moment making moment, start making moment.

1382
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: UMH my god, yeah, I have I have nothing really

1383
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: to say, which I know is so boring, but she

1384
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: was just so I don't know. She she just performed

1385
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: the funk out of that song and that that is

1386
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 1: that is a song that she she understands the power

1387
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: there and she understood that maybe would have been it

1388
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: would have been seen for the first time on that

1389
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: show for certain people. I don't know. Um, really incredible.

1390
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 1: And then Good for You was of course very fun.

1391
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: She she was rocking out like like a rock girl.

1392
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: What do you think of them all? Comparing Good for

1393
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: You to Misery Business? And if you had to raise

1394
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: the hand of one of them in the ring, what

1395
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: would you say? You know? I mean, misery Business gets

1396
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: points for being the first. It is structurally very similar

1397
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: to Misery Business. I think they're both, They're both perfectly valid. Well,

1398
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: I prefer a misery business. And I will say that

1399
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: because I I good for you is growing on me

1400
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: like any song that is on NonStop and has a hook.

1401
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: Is It's certainly not like Confetti featuring Sweetie by By

1402
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: a Little Mixed for Me yet where I'm listening to

1403
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: it five thousand times a day. Um, But it will

1404
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: get there, probably because they'll force it to get there.

1405
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: But um, misery Business came on. Two weeks ago. I

1406
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: went to a TRL themed warehouse party where they played

1407
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: early two thousands pop and misery Business came on. And

1408
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: when I tell you, first of all, they need to

1409
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: do this as a lip sync on drag Race. Um.

1410
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: Second of all, it slaps so hard you go on

1411
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: a ride and a half. Can I just tell you

1412
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: we need to actually rethink the way that queer people

1413
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: who love to dance should relate to rock songs in general. Nope,

1414
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: you can turn it out. You can turn it out. Okay. So,

1415
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: first of all, I went to an eighties themed party

1416
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: the other night and they were just playing like the

1417
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: Clash and the Smiths and like on top of the

1418
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: Madonna and the you know like and the Diana Ross

1419
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: and everything else. But like you you you fucking like

1420
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: rock out and dance and have fun to it. And

1421
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: then Josh was like, oh yeah, it's like at act

1422
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: bar they used to have in l A. They used

1423
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: to have like rock nights where you would just like

1424
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: dancer ass off to rock music. And it's like it's

1425
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: a thing that I think the club going sector of

1426
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: the queers is like, I don't think it's actively resisted,

1427
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: but it's like we should, we should, we should start

1428
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: the movement now to all like bring that haven't coexist

1429
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: in that space, because it makes total sense. I mean,

1430
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: anyone that thinks a queer person can't dance to rock

1431
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: to rock, didn't see me slam my Puss to the

1432
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: ground to food fighters best of you at this trance party.

1433
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: You didn't see me grind with a man to the

1434
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: song Sugar We're Going Down swinging by Oh my God by.

1435
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: My dream in life is to be on a dance

1436
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: floor with you when Sugar We're going down. Oh let

1437
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: me tell you something bowing Sugar We're going Down came

1438
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: on and it was more than I bargained for. Let's

1439
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: just say to use to use were dying to tell

1440
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: you everything you want to hear, because that's just that's

1441
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: who I am this week. Lie in the grass next

1442
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: to the post, But You're just a line song. I

1443
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: cannot describe that. I didn't even like love that song

1444
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: when it came either, but hearing it now did something

1445
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: to me. The same thing happened to I'm sorry to

1446
01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: say it, but um, I write since not tragedies came

1447
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: on and I was at the time I didn't like

1448
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: them because I was like, I don't like those I

1449
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: don't like that pop rock that like emo was a

1450
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: bad word for me in high school. Um and because

1451
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: because the preppie kids didn't like the emo vibe and

1452
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: I was and I was more. I was hung out

1453
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 1: with more and more of those types. But even though

1454
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: in my heart I did love like you can't, I

1455
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: just couldn't. At the time Good Charlotte too was It's

1456
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,879
Speaker 1: not for me, so I went in on Good Charlotte.

1457
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: But nowadays, oh my god. And when those songs came on,

1458
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: even like one band I did like when I was

1459
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: in high school, Yellow Card Ocean Avenue came on, Bitch Girl.

1460
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: Ocean Avenue is a very long island song, very long

1461
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: island song. Every all Yellow Card remember they're ballad here r,

1462
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: I go scream my loves like my maya. It's only one,

1463
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: It's only one. Um, I they're not your culture. Well,

1464
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,560
Speaker 1: I think Denver High school culture in that time was

1465
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,480
Speaker 1: definitely fall up Boy, definitely panic at the Discount, definitely,

1466
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: uh there's some takenback Sunday there dashboard was huge. But

1467
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: also there was oh my god, if Jenny if Jenny

1468
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: madruga slash oh she got she got married, and I

1469
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: forget what her last name is now her brother she

1470
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: was like the biggest steal at school and she was

1471
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 1: she was a great great I loved her. It was

1472
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: obsessed with her. She was like a cool girl, but

1473
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: not like in the popular circle enough to be like

1474
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: like she was like cool because she wasn't. She didn't

1475
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: care about being popular. But her her brother was in

1476
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: this band called thirty six Flip, which basically sounded like

1477
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: Blank Winn eighty two, but they were slightly different thirty

1478
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: six Flip and it's like another like number Yeah anyway, um,

1479
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, have you ever heard my friends over you?

1480
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: That's now, that's that's that's new to Newfound glory. Um

1481
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: like Newfound Glory was huge in Denver. I mean, like

1482
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: we I I definitely went to a brand New concert.

1483
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that about Oh my god,

1484
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: I loved brand New, So I went to a brand

1485
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 1: New concert because brand New this is insane opened up

1486
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: for Dashboard one time, but but brand New was like

1487
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: like Dashboard was like, you know, they were poppy, they

1488
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: were they were poppy. Brand New was not. No, it

1489
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: was I remember like, oh my god, what's the song?

1490
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: But then Dashboards sometimes playing back Sunday would get really

1491
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: screaming yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Brand New it was,

1492
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, what's the brand New song? I loved?

1493
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: Um god, I'm never I can't. Actually I'm looking at

1494
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: all the brand New discography and this is actually too much,

1495
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: is it? Why? Is it just like you you immediately

1496
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 1: realize you've forgotten everything on everything, and this is actually like,

1497
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: this is flashing. This has taken me back to a

1498
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: time in my life that I have done a lot

1499
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: of work to try to escape, and I actually it's

1500
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: actually really shocking and jarring to be confronted by oh wait,

1501
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's I'll tell you what song. It

1502
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: is the one song I loved of brand New, And

1503
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: it was like the reason why I was like, yeah,

1504
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm actually excited they're opening for Dashboard Who. I fucking

1505
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 1: loved the quiet things that no one ever knows. Yeah, god,

1506
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: so keep the block in your head. That song, Oh

1507
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, honestly that was probably the most closeted

1508
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: time of our lives. Yes, that's what I'm saying is

1509
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: that it was. It was a lot of just like

1510
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: hetero performance, oh big time. I mean I was for me.

1511
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: It was that and the time I saw Jack's mannikin

1512
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: who I really did love Jackson NICKI was great and

1513
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: I still have a tissue from this concert four even

1514
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 1: that's Jack. I don't think that's them, Mama, Yeah, oh

1515
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: that's that's not Jack's mannekin. Yes, it's Jack's man again.

1516
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: You don't no, I don't think that's Jack's Mannegan. Okay,

1517
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: hold on, no, that's like that's like that other band.

1518
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, jacks manneck is dark blue? Dark blue?

1519
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: Have you I'm sorry? I'm sorry, yes, yes, no, no,

1520
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 1: we're not. We can't stand up, boss, you put into this.

1521
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm stupid, stupid. Okay, well yeah, I'm not white. You

1522
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: were like Augustana. You are the stan up the whitest

1523
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: bitch in the land. You have white sensibilities. Um, but no,

1524
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: it's just so fun because came on and I was like,

1525
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, like and you can dance to it?

1526
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: You can't. It's so danceable speaking but just fall out

1527
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: boy dance dance. I mean yeah, literally, I mean but

1528
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: wait and also just I'm sorry, but Dirty by Christina

1529
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: Aguilero holds up and it could be a hit today

1530
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: on the fucking when that song starts and you realize

1531
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: what's happening, you got like pull the fire alarm, get

1532
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: everyone out of there. I still there is not a

1533
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: filthier music. I have to point the video every time.

1534
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: It's just so good. She went for she said, she said,

1535
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera said, whore. No. But you know what else,

1536
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: This is what came on at the eighties party Faith

1537
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: by George Minkel, and Joshua turns to me and goes,

1538
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: this man does not get the fucking credit. He was

1539
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: a No, he's a pop star, but he was also

1540
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: a fucking dirty, horrish gay man who fucking sucked off

1541
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: a cop. I mean whatever, but like did crazy ash shit?

1542
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: All cops are blown blone. I am like George Michael

1543
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: is actually huge. He's also so hot, so hot. But

1544
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: like I think I need to like actually smoke some

1545
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: drugs and like listen to some George Michael in a

1546
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: deep way because I need to pay respects. You know,

1547
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 1: you know the children, the children have forgotten, The children

1548
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: have forgotten, and I mean careless whisper you could, you could,

1549
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: you could just put it on and never let it stuff,

1550
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 1: but you know, and and wake me up before you

1551
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 1: go go. Also came on and that was a euphoric

1552
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sure. I mean, so much of his

1553
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 1: stuff slapped. Also, you know who I rediscovered the other

1554
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: one eye who I hadn't listened to in a very

1555
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: long time. Stevie Wonder Stevie and the ballads, Oh my god,

1556
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: oh love. I could gag literally the storytelling and also

1557
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 1: the riffing, the belting. The man is singing like Aretha Franklin.

1558
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 1: He is just Oh my goggles are unmatched. Unparalleled. Bitch

1559
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: sciencell delivered Lately, which Kelly just covered. Um, there's so

1560
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: much good. Maybe that's even why I felt down that wormholes,

1561
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: because I think she did a cover of Lately on

1562
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: her show from a frequently we're improving that one and

1563
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 1: she did it and I was like, oh, I completely forgot.

1564
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: And then I remember the song Ribbon in the Sky,

1565
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 1: which was my parents wedding song, UM, and I was like, oh,

1566
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: I need to listen to a ribbon to this guy

1567
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: right now. And I went through a whole Stevie moment.

1568
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 1: But yes, the iconic men of yesterday who trail Blaze,

1569
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: pop and R and B, thank you and I think

1570
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because Aaron at one point Aaron

1571
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: Jackson was like, I think like another Go Go song

1572
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: was playing it that was just so the beats for

1573
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: the bpm was like suing, like two hundred on it

1574
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's so fast. Then Aaron goes, oh, now

1575
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: I get why cocaine was the drug of choice back

1576
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: then because the songs like just so fast and also

1577
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: the emotional rock. What do you mean like like just

1578
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: like that because everything felt like hard, you know what

1579
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, uh, you know somebody like, oh god,

1580
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: this is another one. Um. Two of the children have forgotten,

1581
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 1: and I thought of it because she sings it in

1582
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: the finale, the daughter Von sings we Belong, and I

1583
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: was like, you know this girl, this girl cannot be

1584
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: singing this right now. But this song it works, epic.

1585
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: I thought it works. We belong to the night. She

1586
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: was singing it with almost nothing, you know, not okay,

1587
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: very quickly. This is what I wanted to say earlier

1588
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: when you were talking about like when communities get small,

1589
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: it's it's hard for new ideas to break through. Um.

1590
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: I think it speaks to this thing where it's like

1591
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: people want to belong people. People want belonging more than

1592
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: they want to leave. Yes, new information, factual information, Oh yeah,

1593
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: this is this is this is this is a thing

1594
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 1: that's like come up in like the last you know,

1595
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: five years, six years of like this new political worldly

1596
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: living and especially after COVID or during COVID, where it's like, oh,

1597
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: you want to you want to be a part of

1598
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 1: something more than you want to be um to to

1599
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: challenge your way of thinking, And that is true for everybody,

1600
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: and that um is very mentally challenging to or just

1601
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: mentally hard for people to sort of understand as a

1602
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: meta layer about the way that they process new information. Yes,

1603
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: I do, and I also I do not think it

1604
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: was a mistake that so much was made out of

1605
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: the children's futures. I think that it was like we

1606
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: heard about what was going to go on with um

1607
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Dylan's girlfriend after she had gotten arrested, Um that she

1608
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: was going to go be in beauty school. We a

1609
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: big thread was Chivan to Berkeley, you know. And also

1610
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: the fact that a lot of these kids, like you know,

1611
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: He's going to Juvie, Like, we set up almost all

1612
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: of the children in the show, so what their futures

1613
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: were going to be. And I think that actually, if

1614
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't by design, then I think it was a

1615
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: really really dynamic feature of the show was that in

1616
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 1: in being about generational trauma, it's also about generation generational

1617
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: experience and opportunity. And I think that the fact that um,

1618
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: these parents were so um invested in the future of

1619
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: these children, it does mean that they they're not opposed

1620
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: to their kids going out and having a different experience,

1621
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe because they are upset with the fact that they're

1622
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: so grounded in their own situations, you know. I think

1623
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: that's another thing too, is it's like around episode three

1624
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: or four, when Mayor is gonna looks like she's gonna

1625
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 1: lose her grandson. You know, I genuinely thought to myself

1626
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: like what is this woman gonna do? Like what if

1627
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: she if she has no one? Like like and you're

1628
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: in that situation, like what is what do you live for?

1629
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: It was it really felt like the world was very small,

1630
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: and then that's a success of the show. God, my

1631
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: friend is so smart perceptive, bitch, no you you but

1632
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 1: literally literally literally all I wanted to know was what

1633
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: you thought of the Olivia Rodrigo album. And it feels

1634
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: like I don't think that much of it about it.

1635
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: I do you know what? I can I tell you

1636
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: something because up and girl in Red now, so I

1637
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: want now that the girl Okay, which did you even

1638
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: did you even do it a bunch? I was just

1639
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: like I thought, I didn't think that that. I thought

1640
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: this wasn't the moment. No, no, sour is the moment.

1641
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 1: There's no denying that. I've only given it a full

1642
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: listen through once and then if I've sort of like

1643
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: bounced around on songs, I think it's fantastic. Yeah, it's

1644
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: really good. But I wish she wrote about more than

1645
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: just that one breakup because I want to know her.

1646
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 1: But it's so up. But then of course I think

1647
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 1: it is. It is a time honor tradition in pop

1648
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,839
Speaker 1: music to write about a breakup about a single breakup.

1649
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: She's not the first person to do it, she will

1650
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: not be the last. She's very young, and so she

1651
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 1: has a limited scope of experiences and like Fleetwood nec

1652
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: rumors one like iconic songs about a single breakup, Right,

1653
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. I guess those artists

1654
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, like we already met them before that

1655
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 1: album came, like Adele had nineteen And you're saying that

1656
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't know about Olivia Rodrigo as

1657
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: a person after you've listened to Yeah, I guess I

1658
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: know would be a great vocalist. And wody be inspired

1659
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: by like nineties female rock singers, um or pop singers,

1660
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 1: and that she's influenced like this is the new generation

1661
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 1: that is as we've talked about, influenced by like Taylor

1662
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: Swift and um you know, Hayley Williams will say like, like,

1663
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: I think this is an ext I think she is

1664
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: inheriting a lot of She's she's she's pulling a lot

1665
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: of very cool threads from the past, from the not

1666
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 1: so distant past that feel like, Okay, it's just she's

1667
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: trying on close. But it's like, it's like what Gaga

1668
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: did on this is a weird comparison. This is like

1669
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: what Gaga did on Fame Monster, where she had like

1670
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: an Abba song, a Madonna song, a Christina Aguilarra song

1671
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: of Brittany. So like, do you know what I'm saying

1672
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 1: that she was doing a different version of all of

1673
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: these other pop mental models for what we like, like

1674
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: that where we that we already had. I think, but again,

1675
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: we already knew Gaga before this, before Fame Monster. But

1676
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: I think with Olivia it's okay for her to just

1677
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 1: try on all these different hats. All I know about

1678
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: Olivia is that she's an incredible vocalist. Yeah, I think

1679
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: she's a special, incredible singer and real writer. Like I

1680
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: think she's wait just before we continue, I'm interested in

1681
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 1: your thing with the Fame Monster about how each one

1682
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: of those is a different which one or which? I

1683
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:57,560
Speaker 1: really I never thought so is Brittany Alejandro is like

1684
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: um an Abba slash interesting? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Alejandro

1685
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 1: was like an Abba song. Speechless is like an Elton thing. Obviously,

1686
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: a telephone is um teeth is Christina teeth is so

1687
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: Christina to me so happy I could die and dance

1688
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: the dark or definitely dancing the Dark is Donna, and

1689
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: then bad romances like Gaga, you know, like that is

1690
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 1: like the like set that is like the center hub

1691
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: of the whole album, and then everything else is kind

1692
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: of spoken to other pop territory. That is very interesting.

1693
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Like she was referencing a lot on that album as

1694
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: probably I think she was. I think and I maybe

1695
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: I've been poisoned by um, I've been pilled as the

1696
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 1: kids say, by the Pitchwork review that came out at

1697
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: the time in two thousand ten or or whatever where

1698
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: they were like she is like she's she's trying out

1699
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: different things. But I think that's true. And I think

1700
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: that's like, I mean, she was like twenty two when

1701
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 1: that album came out. It's like like it makes sense

1702
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 1: for her to not have a full definition of self

1703
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: as an artist. To be clear, I do not think

1704
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 1: that she should come in this fully realized. I think

1705
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of expectations on her and I'm not

1706
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 1: expecting this to be Jack a little pill, you know

1707
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm not supposed to be I'm not

1708
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 1: expecting this to be this like this is the one

1709
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 1: of the works of my life and it happens to

1710
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 1: my first one because and and even though you move

1711
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: me before, I guess what, I'm just as good as

1712
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: you all thought. Like I know there's a lot of

1713
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 1: expectations on her. I guess all I'm saying is as

1714
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 1: an album. When I got to the song enough for You,

1715
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: even though I love it as a song, enough of this,

1716
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: when she started singing and it was like we broke

1717
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 1: up the other day, whatever the words are, I literally

1718
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 1: rolled my ask because I was like, you know, maybe

1719
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 1: just some album reordering, just some versatility in the lyrical

1720
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 1: content would have been good. And I would say that

1721
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: about anything that I listened to closely and kept hearing

1722
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: about the same thing, only because I do think there's

1723
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting things there, and she gets at

1724
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 1: some really interesting stuff in brutal and also jealousy jealous.

1725
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, and I know she's a really

1726
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: good writer, And because she's so good at writing about

1727
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,440
Speaker 1: this breakup, I know she'll be so good at articulating

1728
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: more about herself. Like I guess, for literally, if I

1729
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 1: could boil this down is I think it's a very

1730
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Taylor album, and I wanted a little bit more Taylor.

1731
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: And what I mean is I think to boil it

1732
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: down is I just wanted a little bit more fun

1733
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: and just And I think that probably what's going to

1734
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 1: happen on the next album is we're gonna get her

1735
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 1: giving you pop dance songs. I think they'll round her

1736
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 1: out that way. Don't forget that Ari started out and

1737
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: she was just giving you like little doo wop, E,

1738
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: R and B like she was she was that girl,

1739
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: which is like not not Maybe this is a lazy comparison.

1740
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: It's like Olivia's gonna start out in one localized genre

1741
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 1: place the queers are on board neck and one or

1742
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 1: two album cycles. It will be full if if it

1743
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 1: if it'll makes sense for her, if that's what the

1744
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,559
Speaker 1: sort of if that's what the whole in the market

1745
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: is or whatever, like if there if there's a if

1746
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 1: there's a need for that, like, she will fulfill the assignment.

1747
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 1: She will do what needed to be done and we'll

1748
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: all like fucking dance her asses off to like an

1749
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 1: Olivia Rodrigo bang or that has yet to exist. Yeah.

1750
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: I also think so smart of her to target like

1751
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: gen X and and the millennial generation with the type

1752
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 1: of music she's doing, and also because everyone really is

1753
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: obsessed with her, like our age a crop but you

1754
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: and you're saying gen X to like like that, Yeah,

1755
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 1: no for sure, like like with this strowback stuff she's doing,

1756
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 1: she's like giving us, she's bringing people in. Yeah. And

1757
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: because gen Z was already obsessed with her, so now

1758
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: it's like, oh she's doing like a paramore thing. Oh interesting,

1759
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: she's doing like a weird like to store guitar like interesting,

1760
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 1: like the stuff that we recognize on her like into

1761
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: And I also think that the narrative that she's from

1762
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 1: high school musical and like has this thing is is

1763
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: a fun one and one that people that are maybe

1764
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: a little bit older can identify with because we all

1765
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 1: know what the tabloid situation of our day was, you

1766
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's funny. It's stupid and funny.

1767
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 1: I also watched a few episodes of High School Musical

1768
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: of the musical of the series, and it was not awful. Well,

1769
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 1: I've listened to because I'll go to the Olivia Rodriego

1770
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Artists page and I'll like press play you can find

1771
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: for you there you can find you there, you can

1772
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: find me there. Um and then I um. Before the

1773
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 1: before Sour came out, you would you would play like

1774
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 1: dejav or whatever, and they would shuffle. The next song

1775
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 1: would be from high School Musical musical series, and I'd

1776
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: be like, oh, this this is a good song, or

1777
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 1: this is like this is like a great deconstructed version

1778
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: of Breaking Free or whatever, you know, because it's like

1779
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: it's like a weirdly know it's high school musical, the

1780
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: musical the series, So it's about a high school that's

1781
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 1: putting on high school musical but yet they're going through

1782
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 1: their own thing. So there is like a knowing nous

1783
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: to it and like it knows how kind of frivolous

1784
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: the premises. Yeah, like it's du but that's okay. I

1785
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: never was. I never felt like I was laughing at

1786
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: it at all, and that's kind of the way that like.

1787
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: But it also has that high school musical earnest energy too.

1788
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's funny. By the time

1789
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: this episode comes out, there will be a new billy

1790
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 1: track that I think will be fun. I'm hoping it's

1791
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: fun fun billy because your power is a little bit

1792
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 1: of a It never took off for me, and I

1793
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: think the only reason it took off for anyone at

1794
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: all is because we were excited about what she put out.

1795
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people claimed it, I'm excited for Billy

1796
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: no matter what she does. I just think it didn't

1797
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: match the aesthetic shift for me. No, And we had

1798
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: talked about this like we were, we were really on

1799
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: we were on the edge of our seats about what

1800
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 1: the sound was going to be to match this new aesthetic,

1801
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 1: and then when it was this, it kind of I'm

1802
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 1: just I'm still a little confused. It seems like this

1803
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: next song, I forget what it's called, but by by

1804
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: the time the steps that drops, we'll all know it. Um,

1805
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: it seems fun. It seems fun. That's all. That's all

1806
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: we know. And you know, allegedly Beyonce is coming to

1807
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: what Beyonce is coming? Period? Oh my god, what are

1808
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: you talking about? Well, they were all checking in with

1809
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: each other on like FaceTime, and it was Kelly, Michelle,

1810
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 1: and Beyonce, who all together make up the group Destiny's Child,

1811
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: and Michelle posted audio from the FaceTime and Beyonce said

1812
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: she was cooking up some music. So we know that

1813
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 1: she's working and I will say this. Me and house

1814
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: listened to the Beyonce Self Title in the way back

1815
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: from Palm Springs. I just I can't describe how good

1816
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 1: it felt. I I recently thought about the moment that

1817
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 1: it dropped. I remember asking the house I was staying in, like,

1818
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 1: where do you remember where you were when Self Titled dropped?

1819
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: And some people are like yeah, or some people are

1820
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: like no, And I'm like, okay, if you say no,

1821
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't know you girl. I don't know your girl,

1822
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 1: but you were a girl. I remember coming home from

1823
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: my office holiday party from my day job back in

1824
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 1: it dropped at midnight. I saw on Instagram that she

1825
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: had posted like it was like a super kind of

1826
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: all the videos from the album, was like what the

1827
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:13,639
Speaker 1: fund is going? You were the first person I talk.

1828
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: I literally remember I remember so because I remember you

1829
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: said you said. I was like, can you believe this?

1830
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:20,679
Speaker 1: And you said no. I remember what you said specifically,

1831
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 1: what which was this is a sick dream. Yeah. I

1832
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 1: genuinely thought I thought maybe it would go be be

1833
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: pulled down like I thought maybe I said this is

1834
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 1: a sick dream, because I think at that point it

1835
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: was like she had just done four and was still

1836
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: like popping off. And it also just on not just

1837
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: on the STUPI. She had just on the super Bowl.

1838
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 1: She had just on the super Bowl like that that

1839
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 1: was like her last big thing. So she was yes,

1840
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: the year before or like, and then this came out

1841
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 1: of the separate so it had been months, but like

1842
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 1: she had established herself at such a level that for

1843
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 1: her to do this and everyone listening to this I'm

1844
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: sure remembers, but what I realized listening to it yesterday

1845
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 1: in the car was Wow, not only does this hold up,

1846
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: but it literally set the standard for everything that's come since.

1847
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: And there are true for me, there's one skip, but

1848
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 1: they're like, I don't like Superpower, Um you are anti

1849
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Frank Ocean nine three to of the album There, it's

1850
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 1: just the best thing I've ever heard in my life.

1851
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 1: And the fact how it keeps heightening in terms of

1852
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: how explicit it is and how much it's willing to

1853
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: reveal and how far it's willing to go, and then

1854
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 1: it still is just so musically beautiful the whole time.

1855
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: And you're just like, because she's so smartly released the

1856
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 1: imagery and the visuals obviously because of the visual album

1857
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 1: and the music videos at the same time. You have

1858
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 1: such a place for all the music. Oh my god,

1859
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: it's it's stored so well in your in your brain that,

1860
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 1: like you at, everything comes rushing back. Oh my god,

1861
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 1: is a fucking one of her best songs, Blow Partition

1862
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 1: and into Partition. Uh, can I say rocket rockets? Unbelievable.

1863
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: It also one of the most one of the most

1864
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: sexual songs ever released. And it never ends. And I

1865
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 1: love and I'm just like I just it's so epic.

1866
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 1: And then also XO, I love so much I was crying. Uh.

1867
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: The song Blue Blue, which by the way, is very

1868
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: groom and if you notice, sometimes when I do what

1869
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: I Will do, which is a tribute to Beyonce, Blue

1870
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: is a skip for you. I just the slow stuff

1871
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 1: for me for me self titled good Way for You.

1872
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 1: That's it's fine. Pretty hurts. Unfortunately, I I feel my

1873
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 1: entire fantasy to pretty hurts every single time it comes.

1874
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: Pretty hurts. You get acting moments. I mean, the visual

1875
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 1: is important, but the the song pretty hurts. I disagree

1876
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 1: with you. It can't leave for me. Okay, So okay,

1877
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 1: how about this on the album because here's the thing

1878
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 1: and I had this discussion. Ship doesn't actually pop off

1879
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 1: in the visual album if you're watching it in order

1880
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 1: until until what you did. Okay, I'm happy that you

1881
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 1: that you stayed so early because Haunted. No, yes, of

1882
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: course I would have seen it, but I'm saying, like

1883
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Pretty Hurts is, I don't need it. It's extreme. It's

1884
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 1: like the visual starts to blow your mind, and Haunted

1885
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 1: this is why you need Pretty Hurts. This is why

1886
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 1: you need Pretty Hurts. Because when Pretty Hurt, when you

1887
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: pit play and it was Pretty Hurts and Pretty Hurts happens,

1888
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 1: you think, oh, wow, this is Beyonce's new album. And

1889
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: then she stops everything and does Ghost and that's when

1890
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 1: she says, I don't trust the record labels. I'm gonna

1891
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 1: make no money on this, but who cares? Perfection is whatever?

1892
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 1: So she, in process of her Beyonce album says, hold up,

1893
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: why can't you just start that? Why can't you just

1894
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: because because it's more powerful to who she was and

1895
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 1: who she's been, it's more powerful, and also I still

1896
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: think pretty er it's for something she wanted to say.

1897
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: Oh I don't doubt that. I'm glad she got to

1898
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 1: say it. And and pretty hurts, and the sentiment of

1899
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: pretty hurts is one of the reasons why she's doing

1900
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 1: what she's doing. It's the soul that needs a surgery,

1901
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: and which and then she took out the damn scalpel

1902
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:47,600
Speaker 1: on Ghosts and cut into the carcass unhaunted, so that

1903
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 1: by the time Drunken Love came came around, we were

1904
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:55,640
Speaker 1: ready to do a soul transplant by the end. By

1905
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 1: by the time we get to Heaven, she says, I'm

1906
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 1: suturing the wound, and Blue healed the girls. Oh Blue,

1907
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Blue is the last track you can confirm.

1908
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like, we better not forget seven eleven. We

1909
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:17,839
Speaker 1: better not forget the flawless remix. I'm meeting on the Sun. Literally,

1910
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: I love standing on the sung. I was fucking getting

1911
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: my left to standing. I'm the kid you, Oh my god, bitch.

1912
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 1: And also we are not mentioning um one of my favorite,

1913
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: one of my favorite tracks. No one agrees with me

1914
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 1: about this, No Angel, Oh I love, no Angel. Just

1915
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: just leave me alone when it comes on, just let

1916
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 1: me get in my vibe. And first the mother, let's

1917
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: go back on your head. Then whatever you want. Yeah, baby,

1918
01:46:55,360 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: it comes true. Oh my god, she's actually begging for

1919
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 1: Dick the whole time. I love it. No, I love

1920
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 1: no Angel anyway, UM well, I'm happy that we have

1921
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: this moment of celebration for her, and now now sour

1922
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: By Olivia Rodrigo just seems like child's play. It's not

1923
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 1: fair for us to compare anything a new artist does

1924
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: with Beyonce self titled is that that is a crazy

1925
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 1: crazy scale um or curve or whatever. I mean. She's

1926
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: gonna listen to this episode. She's gonna say, God, it's

1927
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 1: brutal out here. It's brutal aut here, which I do love.

1928
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 1: I think it's time for I don't think so honey,

1929
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: and I gotta say um lots to I don't think

1930
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,560
Speaker 1: so honey about in the world right now. But and

1931
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 1: that's good, um, good for us. I have something top

1932
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 1: of mind that I gotta get off my chest. Okay,

1933
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honeyest time

1934
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: starts it now. I don't think so honey. Dealing with

1935
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 1: and being a person that needs to be dealt with

1936
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: on their Molly come down. If you know that you're

1937
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: going to be on the Molly come down, just put

1938
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: away your phone, turn it off. Just just stay home

1939
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,639
Speaker 1: the next day, don't be around anyone because I'll tell

1940
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 1: you what, I don't want to hear it. And I

1941
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: know when I'm on my Molly come down, I just

1942
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't talk to anyone because my thoughts aren't clear. I

1943
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: should not be speaking. I should not be spoken to. Literally,

1944
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: if you, if you deal with people on their Molly

1945
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,640
Speaker 1: come down, you're dealing with a dark energy. And you

1946
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: have to know this when you take your molly. If

1947
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: you're going to partake in that, that for the next

1948
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: forty eight hours, because it is forty eight hours, you're

1949
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna be unbearable. So take yourself out of the equation

1950
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 1: because it harms relationships. You actually can harm relationships by

1951
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: speaking to other people on your Molly come down because

1952
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 1: you're not yourself. I don't think so, honey, Me, you

1953
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: and everyone we know on their Molly come down. That's

1954
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: whenever when we know when their Molly come down, that's

1955
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 1: one minute. And then because then you're being nasty and

1956
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 1: rude and like, I'm like, I know what this is,

1957
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 1: so like you should have just not said anything to

1958
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:09,600
Speaker 1: me at all. M do you feel that this is

1959
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 1: something that you are contextualizing, your your your interactions with

1960
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: other people recently who have also been on Molly come downs. Literally,

1961
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 1: this morning I woke up, I wasn't Yes, I did

1962
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 1: take the drug Molly on my vacation in Palm Spring,

1963
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: so let's just say I did it. Um So then

1964
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 1: this morning I woke up and I was like, I'm

1965
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: in a terrible, terrible, terrible mood. But I know what

1966
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: it is, and I know I'm tired, and I know

1967
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm like exhausted, and I'm looking at Instagram and I'm

1968
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 1: feeling already exhausted by pride. And it's just because I

1969
01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 1: went a little hard this weekend. And I know that

1970
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm operating at a serotonin deficit. I know enough to say,

1971
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: you know what, any negative feelings I have today, any

1972
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:57,719
Speaker 1: like way altercation I can get in, I'm gonna avoid.

1973
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to make any big decisions to

1974
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 1: day either because I am operating in a serotonin deficit.

1975
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't have my joy, I don't have my faculties,

1976
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: and I am not getting into it today socially, Honey,

1977
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: I feel you. I commend you for having that awareness.

1978
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: I just want to I want. I want to tell

1979
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 1: everyone that I'm bad and I don't mean to center

1980
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: myself in this, but that has been what I've been

1981
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:28,560
Speaker 1: feeling for the past like four months of just like

1982
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 1: a serotonin deficit. And they, you know, you get what

1983
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 1: you call like a Wednesday brain at SNL where it's

1984
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 1: like you've stayed up for like nineteen hours writing and

1985
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 1: then it's the next day, and then after the read

1986
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 1: through happens, your sketches don't get picked and you're pissed,

1987
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:44,559
Speaker 1: and so they tell you like never, don't get into

1988
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 1: arguments on Wednesdays. Don't make big decisions on Wednesdays, don't you.

1989
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, that is just like that's a

1990
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: Molly come down, Like sah, yeah, I can imagine it sounds.

1991
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 1: And now I sort of understand, um where you've been at.

1992
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:04,560
Speaker 1: To be honest, No, shut up, bet you make me

1993
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 1: sense stupid. No, I know I've literally but all I'm

1994
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: saying is place I know, I trust me, I know

1995
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 1: I know, and I wanted to be extremely You've been

1996
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 1: very supportive of that the whole time, and I thank

1997
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 1: you when I commend my friend. Well, I love my sister,

1998
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying like it's it's good that everyone

1999
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 1: knows enough to say, Hey, everyone's feeling like ship this day,

2000
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 1: so avoid each other because I literally I had some

2001
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 1: interactions today and I was just like, I think that

2002
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,479
Speaker 1: none of us should just talk. I don't think anyone

2003
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 1: should be talking. And I think that I could help

2004
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 1: all friend groups by saying, if you party the next day,

2005
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 1: if you don't have to see everyone, separate, girl, separate,

2006
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 1: do your thing, order, order order food, stay home, watch

2007
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:03,519
Speaker 1: mayor Wow that sound or Legendary or Watchman, any of

2008
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: the above, any of the above. So that's my I

2009
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, Bowen young, do you have one

2010
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: this week? Gosh, this is Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey,

2011
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 1: and his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Cocaine,

2012
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: You're not that girl. You were never that girl. You

2013
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 1: are not the drug for me. I did a few

2014
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 1: bumps of you this weekend for the first time, and

2015
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't see the appeal. Honey, it's bad you. If

2016
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: you gotta ask, is it k or is it coke?

2017
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: It better look like the fit. You better know what

2018
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 1: you're getting on the first glance. Okay, And if you

2019
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 1: don't know if it's feedinal. If you got to buy

2020
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: a strip off his Amazon to make sure you're doing

2021
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 1: something that won't kill you, then you gotta go the

2022
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:55,759
Speaker 1: other way. I got my life by just taking an edible,

2023
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 1: drinking a couple of Gin and tonics, and I was

2024
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 1: on the dance fler looking at the lights just like

2025
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 1: every other coked a piece of ship on the floor.

2026
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 1: I think you don't need it. There is We've progressed

2027
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:11,839
Speaker 1: past the need for cocaine. Let's just have a cycle.

2028
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 1: H God blessed the cartels for everything they've done for us.

2029
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 1: But we don't need you anymore. And that's one minute,

2030
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 1: you know. I um, I think that what people might

2031
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,520
Speaker 1: say to you is that you're not doing good cocaine

2032
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 1: and I have. I will say this, I too have,

2033
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 1: I too have partaken in this activity and the difference,

2034
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 1: there's a difference between good and bad. I will say that.

2035
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: I also don't. I don't. I also do not think

2036
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 1: cocaine is that girl. Have I tried it once or twice? Yes,

2037
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 1: yes I have. I have tried it. I also don't

2038
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 1: think it's that girl. And agree with my sister that

2039
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 1: we don't need it. That being said, I also know

2040
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: that sometimes people are getting are able to get their

2041
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 1: good stuff together. And I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum.

2042
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 1: But for me, it's not my d O C drug

2043
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:11,920
Speaker 1: of choice, not mine either. Again, it just I think,

2044
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 1: I think the drug that will sort of lead us

2045
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: into this decade the remainder of this decade will be psychedelics.

2046
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some there's gonna be some some big

2047
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 1: changes in the world of psychedelics coming up. Really, what

2048
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: makes you say a lot of a lot of clinical considerations.

2049
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean like they're like psychedelics are actually being clinically

2050
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: considered for the first time in a long time. I

2051
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: know this has been like slow simmering news for a while.

2052
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: And like people that you've like, like you've heard your

2053
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 1: kookie uncles say like, oh, it's psychedelics of whatever. But um,

2054
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: they're they're like, there's gonna be some classification clinically for

2055
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: them in the next in the summer or in the

2056
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 1: fall or something that's gonna really open the door to

2057
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: a lot of like treatment options for psychedelic And I

2058
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 1: do endorse this, Rupa, Yes, I think I think. I

2059
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: think mushrooms I think your psylocybins and your and your

2060
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 1: lsd s, those are wonderful things to do every now

2061
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 1: and that I haven't done any psychedelic and like a

2062
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: year and a half and I kind of miss it.

2063
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: See I haven't done on any psychedelic in forty eight hours.

2064
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: Well good for you, girl. I just I have lesson.

2065
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 1: I have lessons every time, and that's what I left

2066
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 1: my favorite part. Yeah, sometimes those lessons can be scary

2067
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: when you're in the part when you're in the Ace Hotel,

2068
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 1: Palm Springs pool and a man with a straw hat

2069
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 1: comes over to you and asks VI and um and

2070
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: so you were so you were tripping when he when

2071
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 1: he did this. Yeah, In truth, the answer I is,

2072
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 1: I was vibing, and but I just didn't know how

2073
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 1: to really get into it with him. But so I

2074
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 1: think I said sure, sure, am, and he was like, yeah,

2075
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 1: I said a few things to me that I kind

2076
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 1: of internalized and then sort of floated away. But I

2077
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 1: did play with a big ball in the pool with

2078
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of strangers, which felt really fun. The community

2079
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: was strong in the pool. I just you know, we

2080
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 1: love the pool community at the AST Hotel and and

2081
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 1: and I miss you all. If you were in the

2082
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 1: Ace Hotel pool this weekend, I miss you, I love you.

2083
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 1: I shared time with you. And if you are that

2084
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: guy that was in a straw hat sort of swimming

2085
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: around asking people if they were vibing and if you

2086
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 1: know you have big Adam living in energy, UM, I

2087
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 1: specifically want to shout you, shout out to you and

2088
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 1: say that, UM, I wasn't not into it. If that's

2089
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 1: what you were getting at. Oh well, misconnection, misconnection. I

2090
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 1: think what a wonderful, serotonin depleted way for us to

2091
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 1: ring in Pride month this year, the first, the first

2092
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 1: post vaccine Pride month, and we are here and already tired,

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Speaker 1: and as we record this on June one, um but wow,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to stop us from chuckling along. I

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Speaker 1: am coming to New York on June. We're going to

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Speaker 1: my sister. It's a new soundtrack, in fact, because we

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Speaker 1: end every episode with a song Welcome to U. It's

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Speaker 1: been right by Welcome to the Yak and to hear

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Speaker 1: the rest of that sound listen to me ty by

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, just kidding, Buck, Scooter Braun, don't listen Scoter

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Speaker 1: for Taylor's for Taylor's version, and if you drag us

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Speaker 1: from mentioning Taylor again, you welcome. You're welcome. Bye, Bye,