WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Feeling A Draft 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:09.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:12.760 Cowboys. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:19.800 This is mick Shots, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:24.120 and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:34.680 Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.519 All right, here we are. It's a beautiful Monday, a 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.960 hot and steamy Monday in North Texas, and this is Mickshots, 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:50.040 Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, and we are rejoined this week 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.920 by the great Everson Walls, who's back in the house. Everson. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.360 I see pots cooking and boiling outside. What the heck 0:00:59.440 --> 0:00:59.959 is going on? 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.840 Crawfish boil, craw fish boiled. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.360 Out there on the practice field. And I expected to 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.840 see football players on the football field today. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.880 What's going Well, they're just problem. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.080 They're trying to bribe them to take part in the 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.760 voluntary start to one of the workouts. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.120 That's the Day's the day. It's the official start of 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.200 voluntary off season workouts here at the Star in Prisco. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.679 You know, next weekend I'll be having had a crawfish cookout. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.480 So this is very apropos I like that. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:39.280 Well, I just got some six pounds on Saturday. Yes, absolutely, man, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:40.280 that's what I'm talking about. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.480 They were good. That's right. You got a little Louisiana 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:42.800 in you. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.560 Man, quite a bit half of me there you go. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:51.320 So has Dak arrange this, he being a Louisiana guy 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:53.640 to get his guys out here. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:55.560 I don't know. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.320 It was the it's the interesting. I like that. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.520 It was the same company that cooked for us before 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.840 our Rangers opening day. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.640 Okay, so they've got an ongoing contract with them, maybe 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:10.600 a month long contract with them. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.880 They've got the table out there long, got it set 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:15.679 up right, got it set up. All you got to 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.600 do is just cook them and then just pull them out. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.000 Got the Porterborod boilers that you can buy at the store. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.160 That's impressive. What is happening out here? 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.360 So it is the first day? 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.800 Yeah, I didn't seem but I got here. It was 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.320 a little bit before ten, So I don't know if 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.680 the workouts hadn't commenced yet or now. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.840 The first phase there's there's there's different phases of the 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.280 off season program. Much like in training camp, we have 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.400 a ramp up period the first couple of weeks of 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.000 the off season program. It's just with the strength and 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.360 conditioning staff and the coaches don't can't be on the 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:54.440 practice field. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.799 With them, but they can have meetings. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.600 They can behind the scenes have meetings for the first 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.000 time since the end of the season. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.639 In basic Yes, yes, so, And it's voluntary. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.839 So you know what do voluntary mean? 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:11.320 Yes, it means I don't have to be here if 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.520 I don't want to. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:20.480 Oh little inside joked people, if you don't want to 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:26.960 sk to us a lot talking about. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:30.240 It's been a while. It's just unfortunate. Ye, it's just unfortunate. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.680 I don't know that we ever had a recording of that. Okay, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.440 it would have been as popular as how about them cowboys? 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.080 What do voluntary mean? 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:40.920 Oh? Man? 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.880 But we had Dak Prescott at the Aildren's Cancer Fund 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.480 gala on Friday. I heard from heard from Dak as well, 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.000 and he's a limited participant. He said he could play 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.600 a game now if he needed to, but he doesn't 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.640 need to now, and you know they don't now they've 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:02.600 got two quarterbacks. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.640 I don't believe I don't believe it. He's so optimistic. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.200 He couldn't play a name right now. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:11.440 Well, you know what, when I've been watching his rehab 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.400 out there. He's been on the chords, right, and they 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.960 do all the little side steps forward. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.680 Backward, they go in a big square. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.320 Well, last week, I can't remember if it was Thursday 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:24.720 or Friday. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:25.839 No more chord. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.520 He was doing this on his own. He was running 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.120 pretty well nice, I mean hard. He was doing those 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:36.440 exercises hard. So that was a thin another step in 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:37.200 the right direction. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.240 I think with me, it's just I'm just so ignorant 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.880 of the injury, and so that's why I'm so pessimistic 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:45.360 about it. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.200 Well, he could probably play as long as he knew 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.160 he wasn't getting hit. 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.160 Yeah, okay, so he played touch for I see. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:57.760 That's going on now with the Stars defenceman merro Hiskin. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.640 He's practicing, but he's not allowed to be in contact right, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.080 which means, well, you can't play. 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.680 Yet, which means the Stars are sucking right now. Well, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.560 the defense is really I was there for Winnipeg. 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.039 Are you really you went to a hockey game. 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.920 I went to a hockey game, man, my brother. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:21.040 I was there. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.680 Well I didn't. I didn't seen you guys. In the week, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.919 and my buddy came in from New Orleans and he 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.360 wanted to go to a game. Of course, the only 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.479 black guy he knows it like hockey is my brother. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.200 So you know, we went to the game. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:39.560 Whatever is it a game, soccer match, Hockey's a game. 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.080 So hockeys went to the hockey game, had great seats. 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.960 And when I tell you, the Winnipeg Jets are the 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.480 biggest freaking team I think I've ever seen on ice. 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.360 They were here, our guys were here, and they're really 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.200 good playing and they're good defense. I mean it's not 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.200 just the goalie. They're playing defense on the exterior. And 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.560 we couldn't even get to the goalie half the time, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.799 especially in the second and third period. It was ridiculous. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.880 So they had like the Jalen Carter on their defense. 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.479 Yes they do, big number ninety. It was ninety four 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.960 or ninety four. He looked like he was about six seven. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:19.960 It was ridiculous. 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:20.200 Man. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.440 There's a reason why they've got the most point exactly 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.800 that league they're going to. I mean, I don't exactly 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.600 if they're going to try these last couple of games, 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.640 but they're going to get the President's Trophy again. 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.480 Defense wins champions, like Mickey's always. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.240 They made the game. He Ckey. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.360 Except when you give up one hundred and thirty four 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.080 points in a basketball game. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.440 Okay, yeah, well that's NBA. Where do we go. 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.920 Who gave up one hundred and more point the Mavericks yesterday. Yes, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.200 they didn't play anybody. Well, they played well, they play 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:55.000 everybody I know. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.560 They didn't play any of them. Oh yeah, sad. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:06:59.120 Everybody I know. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.000 But they still and that's that's the thing with it. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.960 Okay, but we are backup. This is way better than 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:04.680 our back up play. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.280 This is comparing the NFL with the NBA. Yeah, because 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.080 the NFL, they've for years now, they've got their schedule 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.000 figured out, where you're playing division rivals the last week 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.280 you schedule the games. Basically, they're very strategic to make 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:24.200 sure that teams aren't sitting players that something. If there's 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.120 if there's a chance that the game can be meaningful, 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.440 it's going to be played at the same time as 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.320 another game that might impact that team's standing. And the 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.680 NBA did the same thing. They skedued all their games 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.320 at two o'clock two thirty yesterday afternoon. Okay, and the 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.480 Mavericks had something to play for, okay, because they're in 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.960 the play in game a one game play in game 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.720 against Sacramento. Both teams come into the game with the 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:53.560 same record. Sacramento's got the tiebreaker. Uh, and so the Mavericks. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.280 If the Mavericks win, Sacramento has to win over Phoenix 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:01.320 to claim the home court advantage, and that playing again, Well, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:06.240 the Mavericks just set Anthony Davis and Clay Thompson on PJ. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.280 Washington and Derek Lively don't play in the game. Yeah, 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.320 and so Sacramento doesn't play anybody in the game. And 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.320 then I look across. Memphis had to win the game 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.840 too for whatever reason, and they sat all their guys too. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.440 The guy that was their leading scorer scored thirty one points. 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.200 He averages two point three points a game, and he 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.640 scored thirty one to lead the way for him. And 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.840 so the NBA is trying to make it meaningful on 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.080 the last day of the season like the NFL does, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.079 and what the hell, we doesn't matter, We're just not 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:35.839 gonna play Ayody. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:36.280 It was ugly. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.000 Health it was ugly, and then they got a guy 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:40.680 hurt that. 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.400 Was a forty point difference. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:45.760 Yeah, I mean it's okay. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.280 It was like the day after the Luca trade where 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.880 they they set everybody because everyone was distraught and the shock, 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.440 and so nobody played. And then they gave up one 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.440 hundred and fifty points and. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:08:59.640 You put that on the injury list. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:07.600 But but if you go back to why they couldn't 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.280 beat Boston because they couldn't score enough points. No doubt, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.240 the defense played decently. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.320 Decent, They were decent, but they couldn't. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.880 They couldn't score a hundred points. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.160 Because the Boston defense was so good. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:24.559 Oh okay, but there was. 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.320 So then they tried to fix the offense by trading 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:31.440 for Anthony Davis. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:37.280 Right, they fix the defense. Yeah, all right, So now 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.480 we bring it back to the Cowboys. Yes, we've got 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.880 a draft looming nine days away. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:47.040 Now, and one more veteran backup quarterback I see got 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.880 off the board, Drew Lock back to Seattle. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.599 Drew Lock to Seattle. I did not even see that. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:55.920 It just happened this morning. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.000 So who's going to be the starter in Seattle? 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.959 Well, they they got Sam Darnell. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.520 They got Sam Darnold. They had Sam holl Will Will 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:09.199 Sam Sam how Yeah, veteran, and they signed him to 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.760 a two year, five million dollar deal. That's what was reporting. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.599 And I thought the true Boys. Yeah, I thought the 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.320 Cowboys were just waiting till the price came down. Well, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.440 two and a half of a year, that's pretty inexpensive 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.720 for a guy that started games in the But. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.040 But wait, the Cowboys don't need a backup quarterback. They 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:30.440 traded for their backup quarterback. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.000 Right, you feel good about. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.439 That, so we need one more? 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:35.679 Right? 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.040 We went twenty two for twenty nine and to a 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.240 touchdown pass and ran for a touchdown pass in the 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:41.840 game he played. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.200 When did you just talk about what the Mavericks did 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.760 sitting people in a game that didn't matter. Buffalo played nobody. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:52.280 On that final regular season game against New England. I 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.480 was shut. I went and did the research on it 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.160 because everyone's talking about how well Joe Milton played and 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.160 it was against a good team, Buffalo, And I went 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.199 back and looked at the snap count for the Buffalo 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:09.199 players in that game against Joe Milton. They literally, and 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.679 I don't have the list in front of me. There 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.440 were eight defensive starters that did not play in the game, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.800 and Von Miller played three snaps in the game, I 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:25.040 assume because he needed to there was an incentive. And 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:33.320 then their next four regulars on their defense played twenty 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.559 snaps or fewer in the game. And I'm like, how 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:41.679 in the NFL, it's like, because of roster restrictions and stuff, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.599 how do you sit all eleven or twelve starters? And 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.480 they figured out a way to do it. And credit 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.280 goes to Sean McDermott, their head coach, and Brandon Bean 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.400 their GM manipulating their practice squad and have call ups 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.400 and whatever, and they were able to field a team. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.520 But that's what Joe Milton went up against in that game. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.480 So in other words, tap the brakes. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:09.440 So he's got one game of NFL experience, that one 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:10.600 you just talked about. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.599 Will Greer's got two starts in his career. So the 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.720 Cowboys that are backup quarterbacks Will Greer and Joe Milton 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.880 have a combined three starts in the NFL. 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.080 So are you that comfortable and to lean on if 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.760 Dak Prescott gets hurt in preseason, which. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.800 He won't play, No Cooper of Russia's out there, Huh. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.600 There's probably still a few Carson wentz Is out there, and. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.160 Believe it or not, I could take casts them. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:42.480 With these teams that draft a rookie quarterbacks, as a backup. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:43.080 Bill. Yeah. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:43.280 Right. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.480 Carson Wentz was with Kansas City last year. He's now 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:51.160 thirty three years old, and uh so he would be 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.000 another guy who doesn't have as much playing time as 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.319 Carson Wentz, but does have starts in the league. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:58.360 C J. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.160 Bethard, who is with Jacksonville thirty two years old and 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.880 was there when Schottenheimer was at Jacksonville. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:06.800 He was. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:09.959 He coached him there that for one year. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.079 You know, it's funny I look at at at Carston 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:19.599 Wentz and I say, Okay, he's had enough failures to 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.840 know when to stop. And and to me, that's just experience, right, 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.760 And so you want a guy I wouldn't want him 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.480 here as a starter, but if he came here as 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.360 a backup, you could he could recognize situations that he 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.079 could manage based on the experiences that he's had. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.800 I mean, compare, Okay, Carson wentzter Cooper Rush. 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:39.959 I'm talking Carson Wentzon. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.400 No, but I'm saying, compare the two. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.000 Oh oh, Carston went a much better athlete and he's 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.120 got the tools are much better. Uh but that was 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:53.120 never his problem and and you know Cooper Rush his problem. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.000 His problems were he was able to overcome his problems 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.680 with experience. Do the same. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.880 If the Cowboys or any other team signed Carson Wentz, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:09.160 it's a yawn from people. And it's also but when 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.760 Cooper Rush goes to Baltimore, well wow, they let Cooper 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.959 Rush get away, you know, And a lot of it 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.640 has to do with Carson Wentz was the second pick 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.480 in the draft, so he's considered a bust because he 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.040 didn't live up to that where he was drafted at 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.520 one point Cooper Rush. But Cooper Rush was college free 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.920 agent and oh wow, no one, he didn't have the expectations. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.560 No one had the expectations Cooper Rush could do anything. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.480 Then he comes in and win some games and okay, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.600 Cooper Rush, Yeah, good backup? 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:44.360 If you if you could get a backup for two millions, yeah, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:46.680 Daniel Jones. 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:46.960 Right. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.760 Everybody said, well he failed the Giants, Well okay, but 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.640 you're hoping he doesn't have to play. But if he does, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:58.200 the reason backup quarterbacks are successful is their experience because 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.760 they don't get to practice one the season starts. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.600 And the Colts are hoping Daniel Jones does play. Yes, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.520 because it's either him or Anthony Richardson right now as 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.160 their starting goal decision, which gets back to the draft 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.040 and quarterbacks getting overdrafted. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.240 And I could look at both of those that say that, 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.000 think about this when when he look at both of those, 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:21.080 I don't know. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.200 I don't know how many quarterbacks will get drafted in 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.720 the first round, But when they get drafted, somebody's getting 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.680 knocked off their roster, so there'll be more quarterbacks available. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:33.480 The first of May. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.120 Well, what happened when the Cowboys got Andy Dalton. That 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.040 was the year that the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow, right, 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.440 and so Andy Dalton was on the roster up until 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.040 the Okay, they made the number one overall pick Joe Burrow, 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.760 and then the Bengals released Andy Dalton and the Cowboys 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:48.200 pick up and. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.680 And he had also made all the money he needed 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.800 so he could come in for whatever they I think 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.800 they only paid them three million. 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:57.720 Dollars for the year. 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.800 So I think it's wise for the Cowboys at this 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.840 point sit tight, to sit tight, see what happens in 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.320 the draft. There may be a guy in the fifth 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.840 round that the Cowboys draft that they like who as 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:14.720 a developmental guy who has experience in college who they 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.080 may say, you know what, let's go with this guy 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.360 and Joe Milton and let it play go through the 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.120 off season. Get them snaps, see where they are in 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.720 training camp, and you can always get a guy at 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.440 the end of training camp too to be your back, 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:28.720 a veteran guy. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:29.280 Yeah, needed. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:34.680 So two guys that'll go probably I don't know, third 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.200 day that played a lot of college ball. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.880 The Ohio State. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.600 Guy, Will Howard Any played like four or five years. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.200 Yeah, played at Kansas State and then at Ohio State. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.920 And then rot is it Riley Riley Leonard Notre Dame. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.280 Same thing, right, is a duke for three years and 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.000 then a Notre Dame and they both played against each 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.400 other in the National Championship Game. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.920 So they're experienced. They've taken a lot of college snap 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:01.000 at least. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:03.560 I could say they have those. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:04.680 They have those. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.520 And the college player that that's had at least four years, Yeah, there. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.320 Is not three and not right, right, But. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:20.760 I like both of those guys in terms of those intangibles, leadership, character. 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.840 I mean, Riley Leonard has incredible athleticism too. He has 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.160 been In fact, it's funny that you even mention him 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.639 because he's he's my guy as a sleeper quarterback in 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.639 this draft that I think could develop into something. And 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.480 he's got just the presence that he has. Go look 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.920 at his high school basketball video of him slam dunking, 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:49.760 and just as a running quarterback in the in college football, 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.760 there's a reason that Notre Dame was running the ball 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.160 all the time because he could do it. And as 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.560 Daryl Royle used to say, and you throw the ball 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.240 and the three things can happen. Two of them are bad. Well, 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.920 and you're controlling games by controlling the football running the ball. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.960 But he's running through the Georgia defense, the Clemson defense, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.160 doing these incredible athletic things. And I like him as 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.359 a developmental guy as far as his passing too. But 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.000 we'll see where he goes. I think he has a 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:23.800 personality that I think coaches will There will be coaches 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.440 who fall in love with him who he may go 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.480 earlier than people expect because of that. But if he 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.360 is there in the fifth round, I say jump on him. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.920 So mentioning that what does the Green, Big Green notebook 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.280 say about quinn Ewers like around. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.800 And talking with people close to viewers, I mean he 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.800 could go as early as the high second, or he 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.440 could depending on how the quarterbacks play out here, he 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.680 could and all those quarterbacks would drop all the way 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.040 to the third day of the draft, depending on Okay, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.080 you've got obviously cam Ward's going number one overall, and 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.760 you've got shahduor Sanders, and there's mixed reviews on him 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.200 whether he will go top of the first round. He 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.120 could be a guy that slides to the second round, 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.920 depending on where that run starts on quarterbacks and what 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.960 people think. Like the Saints now with the Derek Carr injury, 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.600 there's a lot of speculation. Well, maybe the Saints would 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.119 at number nine would take a quarterback, and maybe at 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.480 Shador goes there. Jackson Dart from Ole miss is another 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:37.680 one that's in that mix. Well, if teams decide, okay, 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.520 they look at the landscape and we think, okay, we 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.160 can get one of those two guys with our early 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.320 second round pick, they may wait or trade up from 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.440 the second round. The Saints have six picks in the 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.480 top one thirty in the draft, and they could trade 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.160 up whatever, and so would that would might push yours 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.479 will Howard Tyler Shuck is another guy from Louisville who 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:06.360 played at Texas Tech. Started his career as Justin Herbert's 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.359 backup at Oregon. He's going to be twenty six in September. 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:13.200 And as really you look at the talented arms in 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.680 this draft, and Tyler Shuck is right there at the top, 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.080 and so that could push those guys all down around 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.520 and so we'll see. But usually quarterbacks get drafted earlier 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.280 than what they're graded. 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.560 Okay, so it seems like the big unknown right now 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.480 with the quarterbacks and the draft is where Shaudur Sanders 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:35.720 should be drafted. 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:39.680 What what do you guys think? 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:44.520 What is your estimation of what he is? Say his 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:50.560 name was Shaudeur Wilson. Does that change everybody thinks about him? 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:57.600 Anytime you have the luxury of having Sanders, it does 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.679 change things just automatically. You're gonna get a more exposure 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:08.800 and then also more criticism. He's got to be as 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.560 a quarterback. I think he has been challenged more than 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:16.400 any other quarterback. I think he's had less to work 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.720 with than any of the top quarterbacks that are being 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:22.200 considered in the dress. 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.120 When you could consider his offensive line. 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:29.360 Yes, offensive line especially, and so that to me lets 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:35.680 me know how durable he is. It kind of it 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.760 brings him up on the ladder to me a little 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.240 bit higher, simply because you know that he's had that 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:47.600