1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: This is mick Shots, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 7 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: All right, here we are. It's a beautiful Monday, a 8 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: hot and steamy Monday in North Texas, and this is Mickshots, 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, and we are rejoined this week 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: by the great Everson Walls, who's back in the house. Everson. 11 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: I see pots cooking and boiling outside. What the heck 12 00:00:59,440 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 2: is going on? 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: Crawfish boil, craw fish boiled. 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: Out there on the practice field. And I expected to 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: see football players on the football field today. 16 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: What's going Well, they're just problem. 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 5: They're trying to bribe them to take part in the 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 5: voluntary start to one of the workouts. 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: That's the Day's the day. It's the official start of 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: voluntary off season workouts here at the Star in Prisco. 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: You know, next weekend I'll be having had a crawfish cookout. 22 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: So this is very apropos I like that. 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 5: Well, I just got some six pounds on Saturday. Yes, absolutely, man, 24 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: that's what I'm talking about. 25 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: They were good. That's right. You got a little Louisiana 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: in you. 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 5: Man, quite a bit half of me there you go. 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: So has Dak arrange this, he being a Louisiana guy 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: to get his guys out here. 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: It was the it's the interesting. I like that. 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 5: It was the same company that cooked for us before 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 5: our Rangers opening day. 34 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so they've got an ongoing contract with them, maybe 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: a month long contract with them. 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: They've got the table out there long, got it set 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 2: up right, got it set up. All you got to 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: do is just cook them and then just pull them out. 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 5: Got the Porterborod boilers that you can buy at the store. 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: That's impressive. What is happening out here? 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: So it is the first day? 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't seem but I got here. It was 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: a little bit before ten, So I don't know if 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 5: the workouts hadn't commenced yet or now. 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: The first phase there's there's there's different phases of the 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: off season program. Much like in training camp, we have 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: a ramp up period the first couple of weeks of 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: the off season program. It's just with the strength and 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: conditioning staff and the coaches don't can't be on the 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: practice field. 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 5: With them, but they can have meetings. 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: They can behind the scenes have meetings for the first 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: time since the end of the season. 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: In basic Yes, yes, so, And it's voluntary. 55 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 3: So you know what do voluntary mean? 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 5: Yes, it means I don't have to be here if 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 5: I don't want to. 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh little inside joked people, if you don't want to 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: sk to us a lot talking about. 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 5: It's been a while. It's just unfortunate. Ye, it's just unfortunate. 61 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 5: I don't know that we ever had a recording of that. Okay, 62 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 5: it would have been as popular as how about them cowboys? 63 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: What do voluntary mean? 64 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: Oh? Man? 65 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: But we had Dak Prescott at the Aildren's Cancer Fund 66 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: gala on Friday. I heard from heard from Dak as well, 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: and he's a limited participant. He said he could play 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: a game now if he needed to, but he doesn't 69 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: need to now, and you know they don't now they've 70 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: got two quarterbacks. 71 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: I don't believe I don't believe it. He's so optimistic. 72 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: He couldn't play a name right now. 73 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 5: Well, you know what, when I've been watching his rehab 74 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: out there. He's been on the chords, right, and they 75 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: do all the little side steps forward. 76 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: Backward, they go in a big square. 77 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 5: Well, last week, I can't remember if it was Thursday 78 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 5: or Friday. 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: No more chord. 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 5: He was doing this on his own. He was running 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: pretty well nice, I mean hard. He was doing those 82 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: exercises hard. So that was a thin another step in 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: the right direction. 84 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: I think with me, it's just I'm just so ignorant 85 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: of the injury, and so that's why I'm so pessimistic 86 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: about it. 87 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 5: Well, he could probably play as long as he knew 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 5: he wasn't getting hit. 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so he played touch for I see. 90 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: That's going on now with the Stars defenceman merro Hiskin. 91 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 5: He's practicing, but he's not allowed to be in contact right, 92 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 5: which means, well, you can't play. 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: Yet, which means the Stars are sucking right now. Well, 94 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: the defense is really I was there for Winnipeg. 95 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: Are you really you went to a hockey game. 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: I went to a hockey game, man, my brother. 97 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: I was there. 98 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: Well I didn't. I didn't seen you guys. In the week, 99 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: and my buddy came in from New Orleans and he 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: wanted to go to a game. Of course, the only 101 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: black guy he knows it like hockey is my brother. 102 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: So you know, we went to the game. 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: Whatever is it a game, soccer match, Hockey's a game. 104 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: So hockeys went to the hockey game, had great seats. 105 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: And when I tell you, the Winnipeg Jets are the 106 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: biggest freaking team I think I've ever seen on ice. 107 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: They were here, our guys were here, and they're really 108 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: good playing and they're good defense. I mean it's not 109 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: just the goalie. They're playing defense on the exterior. And 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: we couldn't even get to the goalie half the time, 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: especially in the second and third period. It was ridiculous. 112 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: So they had like the Jalen Carter on their defense. 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: Yes they do, big number ninety. It was ninety four 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: or ninety four. He looked like he was about six seven. 115 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. 116 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: Man. 117 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 5: There's a reason why they've got the most point exactly 118 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: that league they're going to. I mean, I don't exactly 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 5: if they're going to try these last couple of games, 120 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 5: but they're going to get the President's Trophy again. 121 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: Defense wins champions, like Mickey's always. 122 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: They made the game. He Ckey. 123 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 5: Except when you give up one hundred and thirty four 124 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: points in a basketball game. 125 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well that's NBA. Where do we go. 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: Who gave up one hundred and more point the Mavericks yesterday. Yes, 127 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: they didn't play anybody. Well, they played well, they play 128 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: everybody I know. 129 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: They didn't play any of them. Oh yeah, sad. 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: Everybody I know. 131 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: But they still and that's that's the thing with it. 132 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: Okay, but we are backup. This is way better than 133 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: our back up play. 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: This is comparing the NFL with the NBA. Yeah, because 135 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: the NFL, they've for years now, they've got their schedule 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: figured out, where you're playing division rivals the last week 137 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: you schedule the games. Basically, they're very strategic to make 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: sure that teams aren't sitting players that something. If there's 139 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: if there's a chance that the game can be meaningful, 140 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: it's going to be played at the same time as 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: another game that might impact that team's standing. And the 142 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: NBA did the same thing. They skedued all their games 143 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: at two o'clock two thirty yesterday afternoon. Okay, and the 144 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: Mavericks had something to play for, okay, because they're in 145 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: the play in game a one game play in game 146 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: against Sacramento. Both teams come into the game with the 147 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: same record. Sacramento's got the tiebreaker. Uh, and so the Mavericks. 148 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: If the Mavericks win, Sacramento has to win over Phoenix 149 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: to claim the home court advantage, and that playing again, Well, 150 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: the Mavericks just set Anthony Davis and Clay Thompson on PJ. 151 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: Washington and Derek Lively don't play in the game. Yeah, 152 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: and so Sacramento doesn't play anybody in the game. And 153 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: then I look across. Memphis had to win the game 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: too for whatever reason, and they sat all their guys too. 155 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: The guy that was their leading scorer scored thirty one points. 156 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: He averages two point three points a game, and he 157 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: scored thirty one to lead the way for him. And 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: so the NBA is trying to make it meaningful on 159 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: the last day of the season like the NFL does, 160 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: and what the hell, we doesn't matter, We're just not 161 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 3: gonna play Ayody. 162 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: It was ugly. 163 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: Health it was ugly, and then they got a guy 164 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: hurt that. 165 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: Was a forty point difference. 166 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's okay. 167 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: It was like the day after the Luca trade where 168 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: they they set everybody because everyone was distraught and the shock, 169 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: and so nobody played. And then they gave up one 170 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty points and. 171 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: You put that on the injury list. 172 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 5: But but if you go back to why they couldn't 173 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 5: beat Boston because they couldn't score enough points. No doubt, 174 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 5: the defense played decently. 175 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: Decent, They were decent, but they couldn't. 176 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 5: They couldn't score a hundred points. 177 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: Because the Boston defense was so good. 178 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 4: Oh okay, but there was. 179 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 5: So then they tried to fix the offense by trading 180 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 5: for Anthony Davis. 181 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: Right, they fix the defense. Yeah, all right, So now 182 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: we bring it back to the Cowboys. Yes, we've got 183 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: a draft looming nine days away. 184 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 5: Now, and one more veteran backup quarterback I see got 185 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: off the board, Drew Lock back to Seattle. 186 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 3: Drew Lock to Seattle. I did not even see that. 187 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: It just happened this morning. 188 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: So who's going to be the starter in Seattle? 189 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 3: Well, they they got Sam Darnell. 190 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: They got Sam Darnold. They had Sam holl Will Will 191 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 5: Sam Sam how Yeah, veteran, and they signed him to 192 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: a two year, five million dollar deal. That's what was reporting. 193 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 5: And I thought the true Boys. Yeah, I thought the 194 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 5: Cowboys were just waiting till the price came down. Well, 195 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 5: two and a half of a year, that's pretty inexpensive 196 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 5: for a guy that started games in the But. 197 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: But wait, the Cowboys don't need a backup quarterback. They 198 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: traded for their backup quarterback. 199 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: Right, you feel good about. 200 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: That, so we need one more? 201 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 6: Right? 202 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: We went twenty two for twenty nine and to a 203 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: touchdown pass and ran for a touchdown pass in the 204 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: game he played. 205 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 5: When did you just talk about what the Mavericks did 206 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: sitting people in a game that didn't matter. Buffalo played nobody. 207 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: On that final regular season game against New England. I 208 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: was shut. I went and did the research on it 209 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: because everyone's talking about how well Joe Milton played and 210 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: it was against a good team, Buffalo, And I went 211 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: back and looked at the snap count for the Buffalo 212 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: players in that game against Joe Milton. They literally, and 213 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: I don't have the list in front of me. There 214 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: were eight defensive starters that did not play in the game, 215 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: and Von Miller played three snaps in the game, I 216 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: assume because he needed to there was an incentive. And 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: then their next four regulars on their defense played twenty 218 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: snaps or fewer in the game. And I'm like, how 219 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 3: in the NFL, it's like, because of roster restrictions and stuff, 220 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 3: how do you sit all eleven or twelve starters? And 221 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: they figured out a way to do it. And credit 222 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: goes to Sean McDermott, their head coach, and Brandon Bean 223 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: their GM manipulating their practice squad and have call ups 224 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: and whatever, and they were able to field a team. 225 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: But that's what Joe Milton went up against in that game. 226 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: So in other words, tap the brakes. 227 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 5: So he's got one game of NFL experience, that one 228 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 5: you just talked about. 229 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 3: Will Greer's got two starts in his career. So the 230 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: Cowboys that are backup quarterbacks Will Greer and Joe Milton 231 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: have a combined three starts in the NFL. 232 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 5: So are you that comfortable and to lean on if 233 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: Dak Prescott gets hurt in preseason, which. 234 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: He won't play, No Cooper of Russia's out there, Huh. 235 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: There's probably still a few Carson wentz Is out there, and. 236 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: Believe it or not, I could take casts them. 237 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 5: With these teams that draft a rookie quarterbacks, as a backup. 238 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: Bill. Yeah. 239 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: Right. 240 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz was with Kansas City last year. He's now 241 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: thirty three years old, and uh so he would be 242 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: another guy who doesn't have as much playing time as 243 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz, but does have starts in the league. 244 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: C J. 245 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: Bethard, who is with Jacksonville thirty two years old and 246 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: was there when Schottenheimer was at Jacksonville. 247 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: He was. 248 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: He coached him there that for one year. 249 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny I look at at at Carston 250 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 2: Wentz and I say, Okay, he's had enough failures to 251 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: know when to stop. And and to me, that's just experience, right, 252 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: And so you want a guy I wouldn't want him 253 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: here as a starter, but if he came here as 254 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: a backup, you could he could recognize situations that he 255 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 2: could manage based on the experiences that he's had. 256 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: I mean, compare, Okay, Carson wentzter Cooper Rush. 257 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: I'm talking Carson Wentzon. 258 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: No, but I'm saying, compare the two. 259 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: Oh oh, Carston went a much better athlete and he's 260 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: got the tools are much better. Uh but that was 261 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: never his problem and and you know Cooper Rush his problem. 262 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: His problems were he was able to overcome his problems 263 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: with experience. Do the same. 264 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: If the Cowboys or any other team signed Carson Wentz, 265 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: it's a yawn from people. And it's also but when 266 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: Cooper Rush goes to Baltimore, well wow, they let Cooper 267 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 3: Rush get away, you know, And a lot of it 268 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: has to do with Carson Wentz was the second pick 269 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: in the draft, so he's considered a bust because he 270 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: didn't live up to that where he was drafted at 271 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: one point Cooper Rush. But Cooper Rush was college free 272 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: agent and oh wow, no one, he didn't have the expectations. 273 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: No one had the expectations Cooper Rush could do anything. 274 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: Then he comes in and win some games and okay, 275 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: Cooper Rush, Yeah, good backup? 276 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 5: If you if you could get a backup for two millions, yeah, 277 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones. 278 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: Right. 279 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: Everybody said, well he failed the Giants, Well okay, but 280 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 5: you're hoping he doesn't have to play. But if he does, 281 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: the reason backup quarterbacks are successful is their experience because 282 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 5: they don't get to practice one the season starts. 283 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: And the Colts are hoping Daniel Jones does play. Yes, 284 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: because it's either him or Anthony Richardson right now as 285 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: their starting goal decision, which gets back to the draft 286 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: and quarterbacks getting overdrafted. 287 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: And I could look at both of those that say that, 288 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: think about this when when he look at both of those, 289 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 290 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 5: I don't know how many quarterbacks will get drafted in 291 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 5: the first round, But when they get drafted, somebody's getting 292 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: knocked off their roster, so there'll be more quarterbacks available. 293 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: The first of May. 294 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: Well, what happened when the Cowboys got Andy Dalton. That 295 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: was the year that the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow, right, 296 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: and so Andy Dalton was on the roster up until 297 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: the Okay, they made the number one overall pick Joe Burrow, 298 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: and then the Bengals released Andy Dalton and the Cowboys 299 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: pick up and. 300 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: And he had also made all the money he needed 301 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: so he could come in for whatever they I think 302 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 5: they only paid them three million. 303 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: Dollars for the year. 304 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: So I think it's wise for the Cowboys at this 305 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: point sit tight, to sit tight, see what happens in 306 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: the draft. There may be a guy in the fifth 307 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: round that the Cowboys draft that they like who as 308 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: a developmental guy who has experience in college who they 309 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: may say, you know what, let's go with this guy 310 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: and Joe Milton and let it play go through the 311 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: off season. Get them snaps, see where they are in 312 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: training camp, and you can always get a guy at 313 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: the end of training camp too to be your back, 314 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: a veteran guy. 315 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, needed. 316 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 5: So two guys that'll go probably I don't know, third 317 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 5: day that played a lot of college ball. 318 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: The Ohio State. 319 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 5: Guy, Will Howard Any played like four or five years. 320 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, played at Kansas State and then at Ohio State. 321 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: And then rot is it Riley Riley Leonard Notre Dame. 322 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: Same thing, right, is a duke for three years and 323 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: then a Notre Dame and they both played against each 324 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: other in the National Championship Game. 325 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 5: So they're experienced. They've taken a lot of college snap 326 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 5: at least. 327 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: I could say they have those. 328 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: They have those. 329 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: And the college player that that's had at least four years, Yeah, there. 330 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 4: Is not three and not right, right, But. 331 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: I like both of those guys in terms of those intangibles, leadership, character. 332 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 3: I mean, Riley Leonard has incredible athleticism too. He has 333 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 3: been In fact, it's funny that you even mention him 334 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: because he's he's my guy as a sleeper quarterback in 335 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: this draft that I think could develop into something. And 336 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: he's got just the presence that he has. Go look 337 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: at his high school basketball video of him slam dunking, 338 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: and just as a running quarterback in the in college football, 339 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: there's a reason that Notre Dame was running the ball 340 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: all the time because he could do it. And as 341 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: Daryl Royle used to say, and you throw the ball 342 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: and the three things can happen. Two of them are bad. Well, 343 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: and you're controlling games by controlling the football running the ball. 344 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: But he's running through the Georgia defense, the Clemson defense, 345 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 3: doing these incredible athletic things. And I like him as 346 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: a developmental guy as far as his passing too. But 347 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: we'll see where he goes. I think he has a 348 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: personality that I think coaches will There will be coaches 349 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: who fall in love with him who he may go 350 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: earlier than people expect because of that. But if he 351 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: is there in the fifth round, I say jump on him. 352 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 5: So mentioning that what does the Green, Big Green notebook 353 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 5: say about quinn Ewers like around. 354 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: And talking with people close to viewers, I mean he 355 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: could go as early as the high second, or he 356 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: could depending on how the quarterbacks play out here, he 357 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: could and all those quarterbacks would drop all the way 358 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: to the third day of the draft, depending on Okay, 359 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: you've got obviously cam Ward's going number one overall, and 360 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: you've got shahduor Sanders, and there's mixed reviews on him 361 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: whether he will go top of the first round. He 362 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: could be a guy that slides to the second round, 363 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: depending on where that run starts on quarterbacks and what 364 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: people think. Like the Saints now with the Derek Carr injury, 365 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: there's a lot of speculation. Well, maybe the Saints would 366 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 3: at number nine would take a quarterback, and maybe at 367 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: Shador goes there. Jackson Dart from Ole miss is another 368 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: one that's in that mix. Well, if teams decide, okay, 369 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: they look at the landscape and we think, okay, we 370 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: can get one of those two guys with our early 371 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: second round pick, they may wait or trade up from 372 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: the second round. The Saints have six picks in the 373 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: top one thirty in the draft, and they could trade 374 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: up whatever, and so would that would might push yours 375 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 3: will Howard Tyler Shuck is another guy from Louisville who 376 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 3: played at Texas Tech. Started his career as Justin Herbert's 377 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: backup at Oregon. He's going to be twenty six in September. 378 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: And as really you look at the talented arms in 379 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: this draft, and Tyler Shuck is right there at the top, 380 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: and so that could push those guys all down around 381 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: and so we'll see. But usually quarterbacks get drafted earlier 382 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: than what they're graded. 383 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 5: Okay, so it seems like the big unknown right now 384 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: with the quarterbacks and the draft is where Shaudur Sanders 385 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 5: should be drafted. 386 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 4: What what do you guys think? 387 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 5: What is your estimation of what he is? Say his 388 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: name was Shaudeur Wilson. Does that change everybody thinks about him? 389 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: Anytime you have the luxury of having Sanders, it does 390 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: change things just automatically. You're gonna get a more exposure 391 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: and then also more criticism. He's got to be as 392 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: a quarterback. I think he has been challenged more than 393 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: any other quarterback. I think he's had less to work 394 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: with than any of the top quarterbacks that are being 395 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: considered in the dress. 396 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 3: When you could consider his offensive line. 397 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 2: Yes, offensive line especially, and so that to me lets 398 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: me know how durable he is. It kind of it 399 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: brings him up on the ladder to me a little 400 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: bit higher, simply because you know that he's had that 401 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: experience of diversity and adversity. 402 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 7: And so. 403 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 2: I think if his name was not Sanders, I think 404 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: he'd get less consideration. But it wouldn't be fair. It 405 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: could not be fair because this guy has been through 406 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 2: a lot in his two years, and well they spently 407 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: two years in Colorado, and I think he I think 408 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: coming to the pros it would be better off for 409 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: him when he gets there because he's going to be 410 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: the guy that has been through it already. He hadn't 411 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: been a cake It hadn't been a cake walk for 412 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: him at all. 413 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: And in fact, I did a podcast this morning with 414 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 3: Babe Lathenburg and we were talking about Shador and the 415 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: way Bay put it, and he likes a lot about 416 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: Shadeur's what he's done in college and thinks he has 417 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: probably a higher floor than a lot of the quarterbacks 418 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: in this draft. He's not sure about what how high 419 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: his ceiling is right because of his he doesn't have 420 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: the best arm in the draft. Not not to say 421 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: he doesn't he doesn't have a good arm, but as 422 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 3: far as being a guy who can be a Pro 423 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: Bowl quarterback down the road. And then I do not 424 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: mean to put word in the babe's mouth on this, 425 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: but that's one way he was looking at it was that. 426 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: And he doesn't have it, doesn't have his dad's athleticism. 427 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: He doesn't have his speed right exactly right to me. 428 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: But he does have his movement in the pocket and 429 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: so forth. He's got enough to be to be able as. 430 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: We talk about what he doesn't have. Yeah, that's why 431 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: I like him so much because there's a lot of 432 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: things he doesn't have. But you can see his calmness 433 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: about him, and he's he's salvaged some plays. 434 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: Almost to a fault. The calmness is almost to a 435 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: fault because he waits and lets and he believes he 436 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: can make the play so much that he will wait 437 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: and wait and wait for the play to develop, and 438 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: then he gets sacked in the man at the risk 439 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: of his own health, exactly right, Which tells you a 440 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: little bit about his courage too, that he's tough, that 441 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: he was. 442 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: I think some people mistake that from lack of recognition 443 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 5: because he's waiting right right, Because. 444 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: He's been coached by Pat Scharmer at Colorado, right, NFL 445 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: coaching there, and. 446 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 5: So I was just wondering because it seems like, and 447 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 5: you know what, these mock drafts are, right, they don't 448 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 5: check with anybody, and all of a sudden, his name 449 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: starts going down down, and it's. 450 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: Like, oh, okay, you know what happens on that is okay? 451 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: And they're obviously with a guy like Shador, there's hype 452 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: to begin with there. And so guys they make out 453 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: their mock drafts or they do their evaluations and then 454 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: they start talking to NFL, NFL people, scouts or whatever 455 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: as we get closer and closer to the draft, and 456 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: they get mixed reviews and so, but how much of 457 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: that is truth? And how much of it is. 458 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 5: Because if their mouths are moving, they're lying, that's right, right. 459 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: So then when they hear that, okay, there's mixed reviews 460 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 3: in NFL, well, all it takes is one Michael Pennox 461 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 3: last year. Okay, Atlanta has already signed Kirk Cousins, and 462 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: Michael Pennix has this injury history. I mean, the talent 463 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: is obvious with Pennix, and he was an older guy 464 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: twenty four years old coming out but and everyone couldn't 465 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: believe that Atlanta would pick him ninth overall because they 466 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: had signed Cousins. Well they loved him enough to do that, 467 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: and actually he's now the starting quarterback here a year later. Yeah, 468 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: so all it takes is one that likes you, doesn't 469 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 3: matter what the other thirty one they're thinking. I mean, 470 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: ask Patrick Mahomes draft. Ask Chicago how they feel about 471 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: their evaluation of quarterbacks in that draft when they when 472 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: they take Trubisky and there's Mahomes going nine picks later. 473 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Bears should not be the sample of their 474 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 5: ability to choose quarter although I think this last one 475 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 5: is probably pretty good. If they get him some and somebody, 476 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 5: well they well that was they've worked on that. 477 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: Yes, they had two or three quarterbacks before, and they 478 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: still didn't give him any help. Yeah. I feel sorry 479 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: for the guy because he's gonna go through the same 480 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: crap the fields went through. 481 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: They don't have anything there for him. Well, they've added 482 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: this year. They've got veterans on their offensive line. They 483 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: got Ben Johnson as their head coach. 484 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: So now veteran wide receiver. 485 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: Now let's see, now, let's see, Yeah, we'll see. 486 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right foods. We're just getting started on this 487 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: edition of mix Shots. 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They won't blame you. 541 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: You can go at your own pills. 542 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: My running days after that last uh Cowtown Marathon, I'm done, 543 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: got no desire. 544 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: I'm done. 545 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: I might do a turkey trot or something, and I 546 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: won't be doing the eight but ah my goodness, oh 547 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: I just it tore me up. I'm done a man 548 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: has to know his limitations. 549 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: I used to love the jog. I did too, and 550 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: I tore my meniscus and doctor said, you got to 551 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: partially torn meniscus. If you were an athlete, i'd recommend surgery. 552 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: Then you're not an athlete, so go find an elliptical machine. 553 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: So I've been on elliptical everything. And I used to 554 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: love I used to love of yeah, traveling. 555 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: And while I was ahead, my my faculties are still there. 556 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: All that's working. But nah, I'm good, I'm good. 557 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: All right, Mickey, what you got on your legal. 558 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: Before we get to that? When we were talking about chadur. 559 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 5: And stop me if I told this before, stop all right, 560 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 5: because I probably have right. 561 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: The big. 562 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 5: The Big twelve pro day, my buddy in Waco, David Smoke, 563 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 5: had Shiloh Sanders, Yeah, for an interview. Yes, he's pretty sharp. 564 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: Now he's probably not going to get drafted. 565 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: I don't think so it'll be because I. 566 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 5: Really sixth seventh round. 567 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a safety. 568 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 569 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 5: I looked at him and and so they're talking with him. 570 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 5: He's pretty funny and and and they were they were 571 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 5: they asked him something about you know, have you ever 572 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 5: run against your dad or you know, compare forty times 573 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 5: and he goes, let me tell you about his forty times. 574 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 5: He goes, all I heard all my life was that 575 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 5: I wake up for breakfast with a four to two 576 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 5: right right, And he goes, I can find anything. I 577 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: can't find. 578 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: Any video where forty right. 579 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 5: He goes, why can't I find that? 580 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 2: That's true? That's true, No one can find it. Pretty hilarious, right, 581 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: which you would think that it would be out there somewhere. 582 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: Someone's guess idio. 583 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Dion Sanders right. 584 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: Now, only nineteen eighty mine, right, So then meanwhile, I 585 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: just did a search on Shiloh Sanders forty time and 586 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: it came right up prote He had a four five 587 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: two and a four or five nights. Yeah, that's not. 588 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: Bad for safety and with the safety recognition, right, is 589 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: more important? Dion has important to speek. 590 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: Dion promised him a new car if he ran in 591 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: the four point four four. 592 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't get he narrowly missed. 593 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 5: So the other thing he said was he goes, yeah, 594 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 5: he talks about this four to two forty and he goes, 595 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 5: I was picking his brain for how he trained for 596 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 5: his forty and he goes, I didn't need to train. 597 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 5: I told you I'm four to two forty for breakfast, 598 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: and he goes. And then I got somebody online that 599 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 5: played with him at Florida State pointed out he also 600 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 5: ran track. He goes, So he was training running track, right, yes. 601 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: He goes. 602 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 5: So, yeah, sometimes he got to watch what my dad says. 603 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: It's pretty funny. 604 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: Those highlights are still pretty amazing watching that guy. 605 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 5: By the way, when you mentioned the Saints and car 606 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 5: with a potential shoulder injury that could cost him the season, 607 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 5: they're quarterbacks right now. Spencer Rattler, Spencer Rattler, Jake Horner, Haynter, 608 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 5: and Ben Denucci. 609 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: Yea be Nucci. 610 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 5: They signed him, So you. 611 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: Know you got to know somebody that's well, let's connect 612 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: the dots. He Denucci was here and Kellen Moore was here. 613 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: So come on, I mean, I guess. 614 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 5: All right, you got so that would help the Cowboys 615 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: because if they took a quarterback, oh yeah, somebody back 616 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 5: back to Shiloh. 617 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: So so no draft possibility. I mean, I don't know 618 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: you would think he could middle around. I mean, the 619 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: guy was playing make playing some good ball. I didn't 620 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: see him make a whole bunch of mistakes. 621 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: All right, let me ask you this. Forget Shiloh. Okay, 622 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 3: if Shador is there at twelve, does someone know? Does 623 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: someone have pause in the draft room very shortly? 624 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: No, you're gonna have to if his name comes up, 625 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to restrain somebody and take him in 626 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: the back and make sure he doesn't understand that I 627 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: should do what's waiting for you at twelve. You do 628 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: not want that certain person in that room, even considering 629 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: that they we're going back to a whole back not 630 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: as bad as Johnny Manziel, but. 631 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 3: Still, if you do is there at forty four? No, okay, 632 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: should do it forty four? I'm just saying, is that 633 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 3: forty four? It gave him pause? It gave ever some 634 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: four which gets to the quarterbacks. Okay, if there is 635 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: one that you love, If there's a quarterback that you love, 636 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: how early would you if you're the Cowboys, how early 637 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: would you take a quarterback that you love? 638 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 2: Forty four? 639 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: Fourth round? 640 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 3: Come on, fourth round? They don't have a fourth round pack. 641 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: That's what happened, So fourth round you would be packaging 642 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 3: your fifth round picks. Move up into the fourth round. 643 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not going to be there. 644 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, but just in general, any if 645 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 3: there's a quarterback and when you look, get it from 646 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: the Cowboys perspective. Okay, and this applies to Joe Milton 647 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 3: here too. Okay that Okay, you've got a quarterback in 648 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott who's starting a four year contract at age 649 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: thirty one, close to thirty one. Now, okay, all right, 650 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: so at the end of this contract he's thirty four 651 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: to thirty five. You want to be in a position 652 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: whenever it's Dak is done that you've got one that 653 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 3: you've developed in your system, you know, and in the meantime, 654 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: and you look at back at the track record of Dak. 655 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: He has missed games over the last few years. And 656 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 3: so at the same time, you're addressing that, if there's 657 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 3: one you really love, you know, so I don't I 658 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: would not criticize if the Cowboys had someone they really 659 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 3: like at forty four or seventy, second or third round, 660 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 3: go for it. Now, Ideally you trade down and pick 661 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: up an extra top one hundred pick. So now you've 662 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: got an extra pick to play with in order to 663 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: take a quarterback. Fourth on that, I'm saying, get a 664 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 3: if you traded down in the first round and picked 665 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: up a third whatever, now you and now you've got 666 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: the freedom to take It's I don't consider it a 667 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: luxury pick, but some would call it that to take 668 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: the quarterback, but it's I mean, it's an important position 669 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 3: on the team to have a backup quarter Now, this 670 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: is be one that you say is not only your quarterback, 671 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: developmental quarterback for the future, but he's also the guy 672 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: who steps in if that got hurt the. 673 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: First game season, you know that'd be a luxury. 674 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: You think that's no luxury. 675 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: That's you have to have that right. 676 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 5: You know you can capture lightning in a bottle of 677 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 5: second time, like drafting Dak in that fourth as your third. 678 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 3: Well, and that's exactly what happened. 679 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 5: Dak's not in his career that saying, but I'm saying that, 680 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 5: how many times do you get that lucky? 681 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 3: Well, that's why you do your due diligence on these quarterbacks. 682 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they love Dak so well, got him with 683 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 5: their second. 684 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 4: Fourth round pick. 685 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: Well, sometimes I think you gotta get well, I well, 686 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 3: misfortunate for him a little bit, but luck for us 687 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: that he fell down. 688 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and I did this. How much quarterback 689 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 5: luck has this team had? Right? Starting with Don Meredith, 690 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 5: they signed what it was a personal service contract. But 691 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 5: the NFL going, well, wait a minute, we got to 692 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 5: make this legitimate. You're gonna have to trade a draft pick. 693 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 5: The Bears are going to take Don Meredith and trade 694 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 5: them to you for a future third round pick. 695 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 4: That's how they got Meridith. 696 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: Don Mayorth is so cowboy I couldn't see him in Chicago. 697 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 4: No, no, it was pre arranged. 698 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, How lucky did you get with Roger Staubach, right, 699 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 5: hadn't played for what four years? Five years, had to 700 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 5: do his military. You took him in the twelfth round, 701 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 5: and he turned in tenth round tenth sorry, and turns 702 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 5: into a Hall of Famer Danny White. 703 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: Nicky, you could say about a whole bunch of cowboy players, 704 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: but not Yeah. 705 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 5: But not other teams. Not other teams though, to be 706 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 5: the fortunate at the quarterback position. Right, you draft Danny 707 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 5: White thinking well, the WFL is gonna fold, and it folds. 708 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 5: He gets here in seventy six and Longley does his deal, 709 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, Danny who was going to 710 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 5: be the third quarterback is now the backup quarterback. And 711 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 5: then Roger retires and it's like, oh, I've got a 712 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 5: quarterback that was pretty darn good in college. 713 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 2: They once again in those bags. The cowboy lower though, 714 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 2: is full. 715 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 5: Of that they needed a quarterback in eighty nine and oh, 716 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 5: Troy Aikman's the first picking. Oh, we got the first 717 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 5: pick in the draft because that other team went three 718 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 5: and thirteen. 719 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: And then in the supplemental draft they take Steve Walsh 720 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: with what would have been the first pick of the 721 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: draft in they but Smith. 722 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reason you mentioned Steve he did it. Yeah, 723 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: that's the only reason you've mentioned Steve wats is because 724 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 2: what came afterwards. Yeah, it wasn't the quarterback position itself 725 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 2: at that time, but. 726 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 5: Then they traded him for first, then a couple of 727 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 5: second and a third. 728 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 3: So the first round pick was that a Vikings pick 729 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: they got met with No wait, because they used their 730 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: first round pick. It was them, it was trade. Okay, Yeah, 731 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 3: I need. 732 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: To look up that draft. 733 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: And if they had to pick Steve Walsh, then what 734 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 3: go ahead? 735 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 5: Well, the first quarter the first running back taken was 736 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 5: Blair Thomas right. 737 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: He was the second pick, the second pick in the draft. 738 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 5: George was which is, by the way, no no, no 739 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 5: George quarterback George Jeff George, Jeff George, which they wouldn't 740 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 5: have taken. So I think they would have. I think 741 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 5: they would. 742 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: In Miami guy there, Definitely they would have taken Cortez Kennedy. 743 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 3: Then likely Russell Carrol. 744 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: I do recall I remember the Courtez Kennedy. 745 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 5: Angle, and then you wouldn't have taken Russell Maryland the 746 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 5: next year. 747 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: Another guy that could have been in the mix of 748 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: Junior Seal was in that draft, but their history with 749 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 3: Cortez Kennedy probably would have meant that they would have 750 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: taken Cortez Kennedy. 751 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 5: And remember in that draft, they were sitting there at 752 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 5: twenty one and they decided they needed. 753 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 4: A running back. 754 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 5: Well, the teams ahead of them all needed a running back. 755 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 5: They needed to jump ahead, and they made the trade 756 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 5: with Pittsburgh to go to seventeen. They took Emmett Smith, 757 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 5: and I think the next three draft choices were running backs. 758 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 4: Green Bay had two. 759 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 3: They took Emmett at seventeen, and there was a linebacker, 760 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: Tony Bennett that went right next, and then it was 761 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 3: Darryl Thompson went to Green Bay at nineteen, Steve Bruchard 762 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: running back to Atlanta at twenty giant, and then Rodney 763 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: Hampton went twenty four to the Giants. 764 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 5: I asked, I asked Jimmy once, what would you have 765 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 5: done if you didn't make that trade? Who would you 766 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 5: have taken it twenty one? And he said Rodney Hampton. 767 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. That would hell of as trade. 768 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 5: And then to go on, how fortunate were they with 769 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 5: Tony Romo ends up being a franchise quarterback as an undrafted. 770 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 3: All right, then, Dak, it's funny that you mentioned Blair 771 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 3: Thomas because one of the reasons I started really studying 772 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 3: the draft and starting this big green notebook about fifteen 773 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 3: or sixteen years ago. I look back at Blair Thomas 774 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 3: versus EMMITTT. Smith in that draft, and remember, just a 775 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 3: couple of years later, Blair Thomas came to the Cowboys. 776 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 3: He was a late season pickup because of an injury 777 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: issue back up running back. And remember what Blair Thomas' 778 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: personality was like when he arrived here. He was a 779 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 3: and there's no knock on Blair Thomas. It was just 780 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: he did he lacked confidence? Yes, yes, it was striking 781 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 3: the difference in Emmett Smith and Blair Thomas just and 782 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 3: their personalities and their confidence level and charisma and so forth. 783 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 2: Do you think it had anything to do with the injury? 784 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 3: And I don't know, And that he was and that 785 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 3: he was considered a draft bust whatever maybe so so 786 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 3: maybe he had a more different person if he was 787 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 3: like that in college. 788 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't, I didn't have any Yeah, 789 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: but I was like, so. 790 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 3: How would a team make the decision if you've got EMMITTT. 791 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 3: Smith or Blair Thomas in the room, just based on 792 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 3: if you're interviewing someone for a job or whatever. You know, 793 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 3: the way this guy over here has so much confidence 794 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 3: about him that the day he's drafted by the Cowboys, 795 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,720 Speaker 3: he walks into Valley Ranch wearing a polka dot shortness 796 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 3: sleep for other So yeah, and I'm like, you know what, 797 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 3: there's a there's more that goes into. 798 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 2: Drafting the personality. I'd call that bad fashion. 799 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 5: And there was no other running back taken between Blair 800 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 5: Thomas and EMMITTT. 801 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 3: Smith. But that there's back on the figuring out who 802 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 3: to draft, right there's more that goes into it than 803 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 3: just what you see on tape there and whatever their 804 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 3: stats are, and a lot of it is their command 805 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 3: and their charisma and and their what's between the years, 806 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: see how smart they are. 807 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 5: He had the nerve, speaking of that, to hold out 808 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 5: until the Tuesday before the season opener. 809 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: M Well, he must have come out of college with 810 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: some good numbers. He must have had some really. 811 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 5: Good did everybody who's worried about his size, I don't know. 812 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 5: If he was five ten, I don't know. I don't 813 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 5: think he was fine running back. And they worried about 814 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 5: his speed, right, And it's like when I and then 815 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 5: I watched him play for two years and it's like, 816 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 5: is anybody catching him from behind? 817 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 9: No? 818 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 5: He knew how to run, sounds like And everybody said, well, 819 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 5: he had such a good line. Uh at at at 820 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 5: Florida and oh, by the way, I said, oh, can 821 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 5: you can you have a good line in high school? 822 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 5: And then Florida and then the Cowboys. 823 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, Emmett just ran for eighty 824 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: eight hundred and four yards, the second most yardage in 825 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 3: the history of American high school football at the time. 826 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 3: Growing up in Florida, and then like the national high 827 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 3: school Player of the Year, and then at Florida. Let 828 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 3: me find his numbers. 829 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: And I remember at Florida it was so humid every 830 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: game he played in and his he just he looked 831 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 2: like Huod was all over him all the time. Grass 832 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 2: stains in mud jersey. If I'm not mistaken, I know 833 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: I saw his jersey torn a couple of times. He 834 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: was just one of those guys, man that give it 835 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 2: to again, give it to it again. I'm thinking to myself, 836 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 2: can't stop this young. 837 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 3: We only held fifty eight Florida school records at the 838 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 3: conclusion of his college career, nearly four thousand yards rushing 839 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 3: three years. 840 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 2: Right, he came out early, that's all. I was just 841 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 2: toting that rock, toting that rock, toting that rock. And 842 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't always pretty, matter of fact, most of the 843 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 2: time it was ugly. 844 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 3: In fact, in the era of running backs, from herschel 845 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 3: Walker to Bo Jackson, I mean Emmett Smith, even though 846 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 3: he may not have had the combine numbers that a 847 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 3: herschel Walker or a bo Jackson would have. As far 848 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 3: as his accomplishments, I mean second to none. 849 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 5: And speaking of the Cowboys being lucky, Jimmy wanted James 850 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 5: Franz right the linebacker Baylor. They tried to trade to 851 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 5: the Raiders to get ahead of Cincinnati, and the asking 852 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 5: price francis asking price was too high, so they were like, no, 853 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 5: we need players. So the next pick after they couldn't 854 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 5: make the trade, Cincinnati takes James Francis. The Cowboys had 855 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 5: already had an arrangement with the next pick, which was 856 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 5: Kansas City, that if James Francis was there, they were 857 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 5: going to make a trade to get them at I 858 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 5: want to say thirteen. Well, Cincinnati takes them at twelve. 859 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 5: And Jimmy called Cincinnati and tried to make a trade 860 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 5: for James Francis and Cincinnati goes, nah, we're good, We're good. 861 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 5: And so now they would have to wait till twenty one. 862 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 5: And Walt Yuworski and John Wooton basically told them, if 863 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 5: you don't get ahead of Green Bay, the running backs 864 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 5: are going to go off the board. Pittsburgh wanted a 865 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 5: tight end. Was it green Okay, let's go with it, 866 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 5: and anyway, and they convinced him that everybody's going to 867 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 5: take a running back when you get to twenty one, 868 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 5: you'll get your tight end. So they made the trade, 869 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 5: got Emmett, and Pittsburgh got their tight end. 870 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: We almost had two Francis's on the team at once. 871 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 3: Ron Francis. 872 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he would have been yeah, because he was already here. 873 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 5: They got him in eighty seven, wasn't it. Oh maybe 874 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 5: eighty eight in the second round? 875 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 2: I think. 876 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 3: So, speaking of going back to Emmett and well, all 877 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 3: that he accomplished, here's the other thing, like Derrick Henry. Okay, 878 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 3: how is Derrick Henry the forty fifth pick in the 879 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 3: draft in twenty sixteen, second round, forty fifth pick in 880 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 3: the draft. When you consider what a physical specimen he 881 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 3: is and his his production going back to high school 882 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 3: in Florida and college at Alabama, I mean, it was 883 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 3: just through that what made you Because because Emmett had 884 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 3: the national national high school record for yards game, well, 885 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry broke it. 886 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean he had to. 887 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 3: He broke He broke herschel Walker single season college rushing 888 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 3: record in the SEC. He's at the national high school 889 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 3: football record for career rushing yards. But here is just 890 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 3: another example of sometimes they do too much thinking. Okay, 891 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 3: this guy has been just top from from youth league 892 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 3: to high school to college. What makes you think he's 893 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 3: not gonna be able to do it in the NFL too? 894 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 2: Whatever? 895 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 3: By the way, Derreck Henry, first time he done to basketball? 896 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 3: How old do you think he was? 897 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 2: Twelve? Yep? 898 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 3: Sixth grade? 899 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: You line? 900 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 3: Sixth grade? He dunked a basketball? 901 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,399 Speaker 2: How about that? 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Okay, chavn Revel 955 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 5: Junior East Carolina. So he was on his way, had 956 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 5: a good two years ago season at East Carolina, kind 957 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 5: of was starting to make a name for himself. And 958 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 5: in the third game last year he tore his ACL. 959 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 5: So now he's going to fall down. He couldn't do 960 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 5: the combine, couldn't do his pro day. Guess who did 961 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 5: his ACL repair? Bum Boom boom doctor Dan Cooper. 962 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 2: Alright, alrighty, So that got a little inside information on 963 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 2: this cornerback. 964 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 5: Uh, there were some places I saw where he was 965 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 5: ranked the fourth corner in the draft even though he 966 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 5: played only three games last year six two one four. 967 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 5: Had to go to juco get his grades, get his 968 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 5: grades right, and uh. 969 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 3: To Lewisburg College before transferring to East Carolina, Louisbourg. It's 970 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 3: in lewis North Carolina, North Carolina. 971 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 5: But get this, when he did his to get to 972 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 5: get to East Carolina, he did East Carolina did a 973 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 5: prospect camp. He was working in a warehouse for Amazon, 974 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 5: and he and his dad drove overnight. When he finished 975 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 5: the ship shift to East Carolina, he ran a four 976 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 5: to four forty. He had eleven foot drop broad jump 977 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 5: thirty nine vertical in his arms. This is post edgey, No, 978 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 5: this is before he even got to East Carolina. 979 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 3: So this is going back four years ago. 980 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he he did a His arms were I 981 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 5: think it said thirty two and five eighths yes, inches. 982 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 5: So somebody he may be a second round pick. 983 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 4: But does this team need a cornerback? 984 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, he ready to play coming out the ACLA. 985 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 5: He will be because he did it in the third 986 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 5: game of the year, third game, so September. 987 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 3: It will be twelve months by the time the March 988 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 3: April May regular season opener, be about twelve months post surgery. 989 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they'll know time, and they'll know because Coop 990 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 5: did the surgery. 991 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 4: So that caught my eye. 992 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 3: When when you get your running back, then if you're 993 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 3: going to take him in the second round, you're gonna 994 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 3: get you're gonna take your running back in the first 995 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 3: round or the third round. 996 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 4: I can do either. 997 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 2: Why can't you take the cornerback lower? Do you think 998 00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 2: it'll be there? I don't know. 999 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 3: Fielm naked to the third It looks like he's listed 1000 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 3: as second or third round. 1001 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 2: Okay. 1002 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 5: It was just the name that caught my eye, and 1003 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 5: he was somebody that they were supposed to bring in. 1004 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 2: A visit. 1005 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 4: Chevron Revel Junior. 1006 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 3: Apparently it's pronounced even though it's spelled s h A 1007 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 3: v O n, it's savone, so I guess the h 1008 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 3: is silent sav oh, not chave. Okay, sube. Now, Dame 1009 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 3: Brugler and the Beast needed to say, how do you 1010 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 3: pronounce the last name? Is it revel or is it 1011 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 3: revel anyway, maybe it'll be something. We got that out 1012 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 3: a week from Friday. 1013 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 2: We'll find out. 1014 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 5: So you mentioned defensive end. 1015 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 2: Uh huh? 1016 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 5: What about the guy from an M Stewart, Well, there's. 1017 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 3: A couple, but start is the one you're talking about. 1018 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 3: Here's the first round he's got the the guy also 1019 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 3: have Nick Skorton. They also have Shamar Turner, who is 1020 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 3: a tweiner between an end and a tackle. But Stewart 1021 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 3: has he tested unbelievably well, tremendous athleticism. 1022 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 4: Did I read that? 1023 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 5: He tested better than his performance. 1024 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 3: Was and his production has not been good. Although he 1025 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 3: did impact plays, it didn't result he didn't finish the 1026 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 3: plays with sacks because he only had one and a 1027 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 3: half sacks this year at A and M. In fact, 1028 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 3: all three years at A and M he has had 1029 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 3: one and a half sacks each year. It's for a 1030 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 3: total of four and a half sacks in his career. 1031 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 3: So the production has not matched a first round draft pick. 1032 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 3: But he is six five, two hundred and sixty seven 1033 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 3: pounds and ran a four five nine forty with a 1034 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 3: forty vertical and a ten eleven broad jump at the combine. 1035 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 3: It's a defensive end defensive end sixty five two hundred 1036 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 3: and sixty seven pounds Schamar Stewart out of Texas A 1037 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 3: and M. 1038 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,720 Speaker 4: He's de marcus ware although well where two hundred? 1039 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 3: In fact, where was two hundred and fifty pounds? Stuart's 1040 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 3: too hundred. He weighed in at two sixty seven. He 1041 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 3: played at two eighty five at A and M, So 1042 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 3: he's uh so if you're looking for a base defensive end. 1043 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 3: He was used a lot inside as well at four 1044 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 3: I technique at A and M, which also affects his production. 1045 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 3: But he was a disruptor in there, and so there's 1046 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 3: a lot of teams doing a lot of homework on him. 1047 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 3: He's a guy that I mean, the traits, the explosion numbers, 1048 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 3: all of that says screams first round draft pick, but 1049 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 3: production doesn't. And so you have to dig in and 1050 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 3: figure out why was he like that? Another thing that 1051 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 3: sometimes can he left the Senior Bowl early, and so 1052 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 3: some teams will knock. 1053 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 2: Him on that. Why did he do that? 1054 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 3: He didn't he showed up and then he I think 1055 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 3: he may have left early in that he didn't even 1056 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 3: participate in the workouts, but I may be wrong on that. 1057 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 4: Well, but I thought listening to. 1058 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 5: Brian Schottenheimer talking about quarterbacks and their Pro days, and 1059 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 5: he said, I don't worry about the pro day workout. 1060 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 4: I got to for the quarterback. I got to watch film. 1061 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 5: I got to see what they did when they were playing, 1062 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 5: because I've seen, well, I watched quinn Ewers Pro Day. 1063 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 4: I've seen a couple on TV. And you know, and as. 1064 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 5: Schottenheimer said, when they were trying to decide. 1065 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 4: Who to take in. 1066 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 5: Two thousand and four, was that the Philip? And he 1067 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 5: was in with the Chargers at that time, and he said, 1068 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 5: after we drafted, I asked. 1069 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 4: Him, what was your pro day workout like? 1070 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 5: And Rivers goes, are you kidding me? He goes, I 1071 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 5: could have done that in my sleep. Everything's pre ordained. 1072 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,479 Speaker 5: You know what you're doing on every pass that you throw. 1073 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 5: He goes, The pro day workouts doesn't mean anything. I 1074 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 5: got to see it on Philms. 1075 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 3: By the way, you mentioned Philip Rivers. My guy, Riley Leonard, 1076 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 3: the quarterback from Notre Dame, lives three miles from no 1077 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 3: Way Fair Hope, Alabama, the hometown of leon Lett. Right. 1078 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 3: And in fact, this shows the leadership qualities. Last summer 1079 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 3: after he transferred to Notre Dame from Duke. He brought 1080 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 3: all his receivers and running backs to Alabama and they 1081 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 3: trained with Philip Rivers. 1082 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 2: Really. 1083 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, been a weekend at Philip Rivers Place. The connections. 1084 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 3: Uh huh. That's what I like in my quarterback too. 1085 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1086 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some stack qualities there. 1087 00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this Sevelle. Yeah, he is tight coverage, 1088 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 2: tight coverage down the field, short routes, long routes, blitzes 1089 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 2: a lot. Really, he's good. Yes, he cornerback. 1090 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 5: So sometimes when guys don't have a bunch of interceptions, 1091 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 5: they're just not throwing over there. 1092 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 2: They're not throwing on him. They're trying to go deep 1093 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 2: on him. He is hip to hip with everybody that 1094 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 2: he's down. They quit thrown out, Yes they did. 1095 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 3: All right, I'm giving you a homework as sigmon. 1096 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 2: The last half of the season. Yeah, that strikes season. 1097 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 3: All right, I'm giving you a homework assignment. I'm going 1098 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 3: to give you some names and I'll text them to 1099 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 3: you after the show. But here's some names. You're Laurie 1100 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 3: looked at Revel. 1101 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 5: Now. 1102 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 3: I want to get Will Johnson. Go ahead, Will Johnson 1103 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 3: from Michigan who is a first round prospect. Maxwell Harriston, 1104 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 3: a slot corner from Kentucky who ran a four to 1105 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 3: eight with a thirty nine and a half vertical. 1106 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 4: There's Revel on the screen right now. 1107 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 2: He can go man and he's tight coverage everywhere. 1108 01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 3: Go ahead, and Trey Amos from Ole miss I wonder 1109 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 3: you and I want you to take and joh Day 1110 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Barron from Texas. There's another first round prospect. Johnson and 1111 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Baron are guys that Cowboys might consider at twelve. Harriston 1112 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 3: would be a second rounder, as would Amos. And I 1113 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 3: want to get your take next Monday on what you 1114 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 3: think about those guys. 1115 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 2: This guy can track the ball in the air. He 1116 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 2: can tracked the ball. Thank you. 1117 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 3: So you've got five cornerback okay, ever sen assignment for 1118 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 3: next Monday. There's five cornerbacks he's going to look at. 1119 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 3: He's already looking at one in Savon Revel from East Carolina, 1120 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 3: Will Johnson from Michigan, a first round prospect, jaw Dave 1121 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Barron from Texas first round prospect and second round prospects 1122 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 3: Maxwell Harriston of Kentucky as well as Trey Amos from 1123 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,479 Speaker 3: Ole miss I could give you one yea Thomas's brother 1124 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 3: too from Florida State, Osrea Thomas. Okay, he's another second rounder. Okay, 1125 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 3: so we're going to figure this out next Monday. 1126 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 5: And the reason we brought up cornerbacks because they have 1127 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 5: a need for cornerbacks. Yes, they do a big time 1128 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 5: need because we don't know about Trayvon Diggs health at 1129 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 5: the beginning of the season. 1130 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 2: And of course George and he needs he can track 1131 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 2: it down the field. 1132 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 5: He needs to be here Trayvon Dix. Yes, that just 1133 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 5: like that, that rehab needs to be going on here. Okay, 1134 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, all right, because after Deron. 1135 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 3: Bland, he's going into his contract here. 1136 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 4: What do you got, I know you traded for career. 1137 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 3: My guy, Josh Butler's set off in a cl a 1138 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 3: late season A c l at. 1139 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 5: That, Caitlin Carson. Can he get his confidence back? 1140 01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 2: There's your boy, man. 1141 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 5: Awesomewhere from the first year to the second. 1142 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 2: Year, the speed out of the Highway man. 1143 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 3: All right, we ran out of time. We're pastime here. 1144 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 3: Thank you Chris Well, thanks to our producer Supreme Chris. 1145 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,919 Speaker 5: And boy he said all those guys we were talking 1146 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,479 Speaker 5: about on video and even when we were talking about 1147 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 5: Shad Sanders. NFL Network put. 1148 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 3: Them on as well. Chador is visiting the Raiders today. 1149 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 3: I wonder what Tom Brady thinks about Shador Sanders. We'll 1150 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 3: have reports about that, all right. That does it for 1151 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,919 Speaker 3: mixed shot saying we will shout at you again next 1152 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 3: Monday at eleven am. 1153 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 2: Before the Draft, Oh Cowboys. 1154 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1155 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 1156 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 5: Eight