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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Giants Huddle. Get him in a Huddle,

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Speaker 1: Get him in a Huddle, Get him in a Huddle,

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Speaker 1: a New York Giants podcast. Hi, everybody, I'll hold the

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Speaker 1: Tino was welcome to episodes two of the Giants Huddle podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today we sit down and talk to Giants legendary wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Romanti Tumor. I want to remind everybody the Giants

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Speaker 1: tune in. Now we welcome in the most prolific wide

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Speaker 1: receiver and Giants history, Almanti Tumor. Romanti. Always great to

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Speaker 1: see you, Paul. I think you messed up. You gotta

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Speaker 1: say Ring of Honor because that's my biggest thing that

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Speaker 1: that I really I really like that about being a

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Speaker 1: career Giant is that I'm in the Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 1: So all that other stuff is good. It was good,

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Speaker 1: it was a start, but we need to get the

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Speaker 1: Ring of Honor in there a little bit earlier. And

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have to bring it up myself. I really shouldn't. Well,

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Speaker 1: that was in two thousand ten. You were the first

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Speaker 1: class member with that first class of the Giants ring

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Speaker 1: of are folks here, that's my biggest that's my biggest honor.

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Speaker 1: Why why don't we start there? Then? What is the

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Speaker 1: first thing that came into your mind when you heard

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Speaker 1: night that they actually started putting the names up in

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Speaker 1: I just really felt validated, you know, because you know,

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Speaker 1: give me recognition. I thought that that kind of made

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Speaker 1: is actually there within the stadium. Yeah, it tells me that, um,

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Speaker 1: just think it's important. It's important to me that my

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Speaker 1: That's more of a slow burn kind of award that

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Speaker 1: not everybody can get. I've got you down as holding

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Speaker 1: these key giants records, career catches, career receiving your arts,

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Speaker 1: You know what? Honestly, I I had a great time

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Speaker 1: But the memories that I have you sur up any

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Speaker 1: want to check you to the two thousand season for

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Speaker 1: a second, because you guys go to the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with a dominating forty one. Nothing went over Minnesota in

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Speaker 1: the most lopsided a conference championship game the NFL and

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Speaker 1: were Seene Kerry Collins was five touchdown passes over yards.

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Speaker 1: The euphoria at Giant Stadium on that field of mud

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Speaker 1: is welling to Marry Cold. It was truly remarkable, and

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Speaker 1: it was one of the most explosive events that's ever

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Speaker 1: happened in that building. I remember being in the tunnel

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Speaker 1: and I didn't know we were just so focused on plant.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know about any I didn't know about anything right.

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Speaker 1: And then I remember looking out and I remember seeing

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Speaker 1: all the whole crowd with those white like towels and

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00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 1: they were spinning them in the air. And then I

443
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: looked out and there was LT with his like shirt off,

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, I don't know what he was doing,

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, that's LT, you know. And all the

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00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: other giants were like going crazy, and I'm like, this

447
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: is a big deal. They got LT looking crazy, they

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Speaker 1: got the towels. I said, this is gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: And I got hurt the week before. I hurt my

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Speaker 1: ankle and my knee, and I remember, I remember coach

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Speaker 1: uh Sean Payton. I'm sitting on the train table and

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's like, man, money, you're gonna be ready this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, Coach. He's like, because this

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Speaker 1: secondary is the worst I've ever seen. He's like, we

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Speaker 1: are going to put the ball up in the air.

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Speaker 1: You better be ready. So then I remember thinking, I

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Speaker 1: go over, I get off the table. I'm my coach.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll be ready, and I start jumping on

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Speaker 1: my leg and I started jumping up and down on

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Speaker 1: one leg. I'll be ready to coach that goodness for that,

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Speaker 1: because that was that was an incredible not only offensive showing,

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Speaker 1: but to shut out at that time what was considered

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Speaker 1: one of those incredible offenses ever, Chris Carter, Randy Moss,

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Speaker 1: who else was Who's the quarterback? They had Robert Smith

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Speaker 1: in the back. That was the last year and ever

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Speaker 1: since they lost Robert Smith, they lost a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he was a phenomenal player that is way underrated in

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Speaker 1: that whole system because the running threat really made Moths

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Speaker 1: and Carter more viable options. Let's let's go now. Years later,

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Speaker 1: you get the second a c L injury. This time

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Speaker 1: again you have to go have surgery, and people are saying, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the money if he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to come back from this one. But you do

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Speaker 1: it again. And of course a year later in two

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Speaker 1: thousand seven, the Giants go to the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: win it. Great postseason run. But I'm going to ask

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Speaker 1: you about one thing in particular. The week leading into

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Speaker 1: that game in Arizona, Plexico, Burris knee blows up and

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Speaker 1: you obviously know about it. The media really doesn't know

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Speaker 1: much about what's going on. But you guys inside, no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what happened. That's what I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about, because what what exactly was going through

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Speaker 1: your mind? What did you know? What didn't you know?

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Speaker 1: Because if Plexico is not the lineup, that's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: That's a really big deal. That's a really big deal. Um.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how he got I just knew that

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Speaker 1: he was hurt, and he hurt himself Tuesday, right on

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Speaker 1: the player's day off. I don't know what happened. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know any stories that he

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Speaker 1: slipped in the bathtub. Okay, okay, um, that's all I'll say.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know, but I

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Speaker 1: just remember seeing him at practice and he was like, Hobblem,

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Speaker 1: like you gonna be at right He's like, ye'all be fine.

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Speaker 1: So I just took him for his word. He said

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine. He didn't

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Speaker 1: practice all week, but he didn't practice the entire season

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Speaker 1: because he had a bad ankle, So I wasn't really

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Speaker 1: it wasn't anything different. Uh. And I remember Dave Tyree

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Speaker 1: because they put Dave Tyree in his spot because they

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Speaker 1: figured he'd come back, and if they've moved me or

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Speaker 1: moved anybody else over to his spoty would kind of

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Speaker 1: mess up the whole flow of things. So what basically

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Speaker 1: what they did was they just left everybody else to

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Speaker 1: where they were supposed to be. Me and Boss were

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Speaker 1: you know were, and then put Dave Tyree and as

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Speaker 1: the X because I played Z at the time, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, we went through a practice. Everything was fine,

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Speaker 1: and then and Friday, which is the day where everything

509
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Speaker 1: has to be tiptop, is our last practice. Dave Tyree

510
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Speaker 1: proceeded to let the ball just beat the hell out

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Speaker 1: of him. I mean, he dropped everything. I mean it

512
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Speaker 1: was like, we just can't say, man, plex go better

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Speaker 1: come back because this dude is cutting board hands. Man,

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Speaker 1: he is killing the game right now. He's making everything,

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Speaker 1: and this the whole team was like, god, dang Dave

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Speaker 1: trying to pass him a cup of water, you drop it.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy and uh but so uh

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Speaker 1: so so I was just I just I just knew

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Speaker 1: that he was gonna come back for the game. He

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Speaker 1: had to because there was nobody we would be able

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Speaker 1: to compete, So everybody's just thinking, oh, Dave's just taking

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Speaker 1: you know now. The way he tells the story is

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Speaker 1: it was literally hours before the game, he's talking to

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Speaker 1: Ronny Barnes in the trainer's room and there's still not

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Speaker 1: sure that he's coming back into into play. It's probably

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Speaker 1: good that he didn't leverybody else know, and and then

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Speaker 1: you know it's decided that, you know what, he can go?

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Speaker 1: How much I mean is that a Willis Reid Knicks

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Speaker 1: kind of moment? And I know you're not that old,

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00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: but you know the story about when Willis Reid comes

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Speaker 1: out Game seven nine NBA Finals against the Lakers. Today,

532
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: nobody thinks, yeah, nobody thinks he can play, but he

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00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: comes out and the inspiration picks up the whole team.

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00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: Was there a Burrust type moment like that for you

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Speaker 1: guys you actually saw him come out onto the field. No,

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Speaker 1: because we knew we thought he was gonna play anyway,

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00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: you always did. We always thought he was gonna play.

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00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I always stought he was gonna play, So I never

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Speaker 1: really thought. I never thought anything of it. So it's

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Speaker 1: a good thing that we didn't know then, a good

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Speaker 1: thing that you know, Dave wasn't going to have to play.

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Speaker 1: But then Dave goes out and has one of the

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Speaker 1: best Super Bowl catches in a Super Bowl history, and

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Speaker 1: he has a touchdown. Listen to David's career, right, he

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Speaker 1: has a memory, he has a touch down in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Right, he played in a Pro Bowl. Right,

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Speaker 1: he has one of the best Super Bowl catches of

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Speaker 1: all time? The best? Okay, yeah, the best? I agree

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Speaker 1: with you, the best. That's amazing. There's a lot of

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00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: guys with gold jackets. They don't have careers like that.

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00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: They don't have all those three boxes checked off. Not

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Speaker 1: to take anything away from David because he was a

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00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: phenomenal player, but wow, unbelievable. So now I remember the

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00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: rig ceremony and it was a Tiffany's in New York,

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00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: and you and Michael Strahan get your rings as everybody

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00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: else does, and the questions are coming about, Hey, is

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00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: this it is a Monty tumor going to come back

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00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: for another year? Is Michael Strahan going to come back

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00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: for another year? As it turned out, your only other

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00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: football experience was a short time in training camp with

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Well I played the next year,

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Speaker 1: We played the next year, but shortly after that, that's

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Speaker 1: all it was. And and I wonder if in retrospect,

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00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: as we started this conversation and so kind of how

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00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: I want to wrap it up, how important was it

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Speaker 1: really for you to have not only been a giant

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00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: your whole career, but have been able to take the

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00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: full circle go to Super Bowl, then get to win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and and then wind up being a

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Speaker 1: Ring of honor? Guy? Was there anything left undone? Um? Undone?

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Speaker 1: I felt like I personally could have been different circumstances,

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00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: different situations I could have had I could have I

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00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: think I could have done more, you know, as a

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00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: receiver personally, but in terms of what the group did

575
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: and how we um you know, beat the Patriots and

576
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: had that run, and you know, that was one of

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00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: the most satisfying things of my career, just being able

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00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: to do it as I've always wanted to do it

579
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: on the road four times and you know, went in

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Speaker 1: four road games, road Warriors. I wanted. I I like

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00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: that that was something that you know, deep down I

582
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: always wanted to do. UM. But I felt like there

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Speaker 1: were times in my career where I was that it

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00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: was more in my prime where we just weren't a

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Speaker 1: very good team, and there was things that just that

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00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: held me personally back. But other than you know, other

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00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: than a little bit of you know, selfishness, I could say,

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00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing I could have. I felt that everything, and

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00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: being uh inducted into the Ring of Honor kind of

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00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: quelled a lot of that stuff because no matter how

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Speaker 1: many more statistics I got. I think that's one of

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00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: the best things, because it's the organization that I came

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00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: up through. It's every they know everything about me. I've

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00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: been there for thirteen years. Everything about, you know, my

595
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: approach the game had been validated um by people that

596
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: are more important than writers that don't even know me.

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Speaker 1: That is so cool, because you're right. It's it's about

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00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: the respect that people who know most about you have

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00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: thrown your way. And I've often said to people that

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Speaker 1: I think if a organization put you in a Ring

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00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: of Honor or retires your jersey, I could understand why

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00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: that's more meaningful. I'd like to, but I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they're gonna do it. I don't

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00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: think that's all right. That's okay, Amanti Tumor, thank you

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00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: so much for your time. This has been a tremendous

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00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: amount of fun as we go down memory lane. Thank

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Speaker 1: you that is Giants Legend and Ring of Honor inductee

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Speaker 1: Amanti Tumor, and thanks for listening to us. We want

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Speaker 1: to remind everybody The Giants Tuttle can be found on

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Speaker 1: giants dot com and all your favorite podcast platforms and

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Speaker 1: services including iTunes and tune in. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week on another episode of The

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Speaker 1: Giant Huttle. So long, everybody,