1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Being as fit and healthy and rested going into the 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: hunt as possible, because there might be days where we 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: get back at eight o'clock and we get up at 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: five and go back, you know, like it's just your 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: like Ben said, it's but there's this emotional roller coaster 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: that you can't account for of like excitement on the 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: next set of the ridge or the next set of 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: heavy timber or and this is we're talking archery, which 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: rifles a little bit different. We will be covering a 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: ton of ground because you know, we'll sit in glass. 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: We don't have something we'll move, We'll sit in glass 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: because we can get to some really good spots out here. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: The stakes are real. Effective Preparation starts with fitness, but 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience, 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: and skills needed to be ready when it matters the most. 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting in 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: the back hunt. This is in Pursuit, brought to you 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: by Mount Thoms in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt, uh Spike Camp. 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: We got a Have you ever been on any of 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: our podcasts? 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: No? 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: Single one got Mike Watkins. 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: It's the first time he's ever been on a podcast, 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: a podcast. 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 1: But any of our oh you've never been on period, 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: nobody's ever the man behind We got the man behind 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: the camera, Scott, and then we got the man behind 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: the guy on the camera Watkins. Yeah, he's like he's 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: always on the camera too. 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: He's a background character to the point where like people know. 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Now he's like he's a blue Shirt guy. 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so now he's about to be that for 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: our hunting community as well. 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Watch that movie blue Shirt Guy. Wat Oh yeah, the 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 1: video game character. 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's a I you know, just like 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: when he takes that snot sure. 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I think it's perfect because well we'll talk a little 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: about Richard Ryan, but it's perfect because Watkins, what six 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: weeks ago, now about a month ago. Yeah, Watkins works 42 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: out with us pretty regularly. Like StairMaster Champion. 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: He actually is the best at the StairMaster I think 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: that we have at the gym. 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: I don't know why that is, Like his body's just 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: built perfectly for the StairMaster, but he's really really good 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: at it. 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: He's really good at it. Does a lot, right, Yeah, 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: he has regular fitness, but a lot a lot of 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: StairMaster anyway, So Watkins works for us at the gym. 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: All right, Mayhem just kind of does a little bit 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: of everything for us. And we were we're going on 54 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: a hunt this week actually in two days, to Colorado, 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: and our buddy Ensie Campers, Dave Curtis, is finishing up 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: our sprinter van, so we needed somebody to drive it back. 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: And so Watkins is gonna go hunt with us. He's 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: gonna Shirpa for Matt and then drive the sprinter back. 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: So what about a month ago we were like, Watkins, 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: you want to go hunt with us? He was like, hell, yeah, 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: I'm in And so you've been getting in hunting shape. 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean you you're in shape. And then you've just 63 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: added some extra steermaster in the last couple of weeks. 64 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: As long as I just stay behind villains, I'll be good. 65 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: You can do that. You can keep up with Billings 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: for sure. You guys had a little interesting sighting his 67 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: rifle in yesterday. He got the wrong it's I heard or. 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: No, he got thirty and so his tubes thirty four. 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he ordered a thirty yeah, and. 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: He's when I walked in and then. 71 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: He's trying to like plumb. So the shooting range that 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: we went to is about forty five minutes away, forty 73 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: five fifty minutes away, and Billings was waiting on this piece. 74 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: It's yesterday, was Monday. We hunt on Thursday or no, 75 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: we can hunt on Saturday. We're leaving on Thursday. So 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: we need to get these uh gun sighted in and 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: he has he's gonna shoot his old field craft. I'm 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: shooting the SIG seven mil and they discontinued the field craft, 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: so we had to special order some rings for his 80 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: scope to mount a scope. Well, the moron didn't look 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: at what inch the scope diameter was or circumference was, 82 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: and he ordered a thirty instead of a thirty four, 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: and so he so we we were already up there shooting. 84 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: Watkins was bringing Matt the park because we're waiting on FedEx. 85 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: And we finished sighting in my gun. We left to 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: go pick up Lakeland and Watkins is driving up Matt's 87 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: truck and we see him pass and then I text 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: probably what thirty minutes later, and I said, how's it going? 89 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: He said pretty terrible, but different adjective, and then described 90 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: the fact that he had ordered the wrong part. So 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: apparently he's going to Murphy's Broo today last morning. But 92 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, why not just you shoot? He's got a 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: three hundred win that we shot last year, that shot out. 94 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: He shot that bullet what five hundred and forty yards. 95 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Something like that. 96 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we is too heavy. That was this whole 97 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: thing that doesn't work out. 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: It's too heavy, that does not work out. Matt's also 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: the one that thought he got rabbed on our first 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: el hunt. So there is that. 101 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: You're siting in. Experience was rate yesterday? Pretty awesome range 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: and the gun were pretty impressive. 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, both were really impressive. They the iPads they shoot. 104 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: The gun was sighted into two hundred I'm pretty sure 105 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: originally from SIG and we backed it down to one hundred, 106 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: and then a buddy of ours had all of the 107 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: the moas for out to a thousand, and it was 108 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: pretty darn close out to one thousand to what Lucas 109 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: had sent us. And that first you weren't there the 110 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: first The only shot I took at a thousand, like 111 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: dead center bullseye at a thousand thousand yards. It was 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: kind of funny. Uh, but yeah, we shot. So they 113 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: have two hundred, three hundred, six hundred, eight hundred nine 114 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: and then a thousand. 115 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: This one is at the very back thousand. That looked cool. 116 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool. It's a pretty cool place. And that. Yeah, 117 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: you just sit there with iPad and then each you 118 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: can send it to MOA or EMRAT or whatever and 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: just where you need to. 120 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: Does it show you where you hit on the IPEd? 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, immediately stuck. So that saved us a lot 122 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 2: of time. Saved us so much just last year having 123 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: to ride the bike out check the uh yeah, would Yeah, gosh, 124 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: that was a mess. 125 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Was it? Lance Lane Lance the shoot? 126 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: I don't know, man. 127 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: He was a good dude too. The you know sometimes 128 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: you show up to some of those places in the 129 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: range Master. 130 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: The tall dude in the gray shirt was one headed. 131 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: Younger guy like our agent, maybe a little bit younger 132 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: than us are. Our age is all about within us. 133 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: Similar to my age. 134 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: Probably, Yeah, because when I got up there, there's nobody there. 135 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: Flannel on this guy, this guy at the range. 136 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I went to where y'all was shooting because 137 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: it's where Billy said y'all was at, and then nobody 138 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: was there. I kind of just sitting there. Of course 139 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: there's no service, and the guy's like shooting, bud. I go, ah, no, 140 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna watch. He goes watch who I was 141 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: like rich and Billings. He goes, buddy, they're gone. They 142 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: left a long time ago. I was like, well, I 143 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: was following his location. I was like, all right, well, 144 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: I guess i'll see you later. 145 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: He probably wasn't. He was a good dude. You know. 146 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes you show up to those places and people either 147 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: high hatch or talk to you like here, moron, And 148 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: this guy was he was just cool, good. 149 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, especially to like, I know a lot of 150 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: people do nerd out on the rifle stuff, but I 151 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: think we nerd out on the bows more than the rifles. 152 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: For sure. 153 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: And if you don't shoot, you know, twenty four to 154 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: seven like those guys, sometimes it can be some type of. 155 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Way, yeah, for sure. But he didn't like, No, you 156 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: didn't belittle. Usually sometimes you get guys like that that belittle, 157 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: even on the archery side, where you're like, dude, just 158 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: come on, I'm trying to get better. I'm trying to learn. 159 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we're making good shots, you know, 160 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: And he was dude. So yep, if you're ever passing 161 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: through Tennessee and want to go to UH Spencer and 162 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: Dead zero, it's a pretty good shooting range. 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: Watkins, Are you excited to to tie in Richard Ryan 164 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: go on this hunt and get disconnected from technology? 165 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: Oh? 166 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: Du I can't wait. 167 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you will. You won't be able to right, left 168 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: or right, that's for sure. There won't be much to swite, But. 169 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: I can't wait. 170 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where the very first time 171 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: we went on, or I went on with you, we 172 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: had absolutely zero zero service and like granted, like take 173 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: out the fact that you want to be able to 174 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: like tell your family you're okay each day. Take out 175 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: that fact. It's incredible that this was pre starlink as well, 176 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: obviously because now you can get starlink it cam Push 177 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: is awesome, but also takes away some of the disconnects. 178 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: I think it's different if it's not with people that. 179 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to hang out with. Yeah, so it's 180 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: just yeah, it's a good group. Yeah, man. I those 181 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: first couple of years we went to Gunnison and there 182 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: was zero service day night anything. We used the garment 183 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: in reach. I think Hillary is way more. That way 184 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: better now that she knows at least I can check 185 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: in or she can even like I share my location 186 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: all the time so she can like track our location 187 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: on the mountain even too, so give a little bit 188 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: of peace of mind. But man, it is awesome most 189 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: places there. There might be some sides of the hill 190 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: that you might get some service, but for the most 191 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: part it'll be very limited service. So it's a pretty 192 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: cool disconnect. And since actually since talking to well, we 193 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: had to talk with Richard Ryan and then just some 194 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: some dudes internally. Jake Lockert, one of our guys, showed us, 195 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: showed me that be Present app. It's pretty cool. You 196 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: can set it an actual limit the number of times 197 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: you open an app and how long you can be 198 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: on the app, And so I set one for Instagram 199 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: and my Safari, which kind of makes it hard at 200 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: times because when you have to actually get something done. 201 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: But it's been awesome, so I've got like forty minutes max. 202 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: The problem is if you open it, you have a 203 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: five like I have it set to a five minute window, 204 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: no matter if I'm on it or not, Like if 205 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: it's open, it takes five minutes, and then that whole 206 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: session counts. 207 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: Can you make Onyx hunt unlimited? 208 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can. What's cool is you can go app 209 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: by app, because that would suck because I'm originally I madear. 210 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: I kept Safari open, but when I noticed instead of 211 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: going to Instagram, I'd go to Twitter and that was 212 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: like taking the place of the time that I was 213 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: on my phone, so I put it on Safari too. 214 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, you can go app by app, so 215 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: it's not a full like phone. You can go you know, 216 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: whatever you want to or whatever you see as your 217 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: vice and turn that off. 218 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: You've got the streaks too, I know. 219 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And then there's like it's so what's kind 220 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: of cool about it is, you know, usually you can 221 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: set app limits, but you're just like a bypass app 222 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: limit bypass app. This makes you do like three things 223 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: to go to it, and one of them you have 224 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: to say give up, and I just can't say give up, 225 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, like. 226 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: Like seventy yeah, yeah, yeah. I always thought it was 227 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 2: interesting the perspective after the first year or two we 228 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: hunted the It kind of makes you realize when you're 229 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: in situations like that where you don't have a phone 230 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: at your dispose all the time to distract you or 231 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: even other things in your life to distract you. That 232 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: it's almost like we're supposed to live that way, because 233 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: let's say we're out there with like five or six guys. 234 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: I always called it like dog years in terms of 235 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: relationship building, Like like Curtis, for example, I've only known 236 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: him five years, but because all those years have been 237 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: on hunts, like really like I've known him for like 238 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: twenty years, like a really great friend because of I 239 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: guess the nature in which same with you know you 240 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: Angelo and. 241 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: You share suffering as well as you know, like we're 242 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: we're in it, and you can see a lot about 243 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: somebody's character, a lot about somebody's uh how they react 244 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: to things. We'll learn a lot about you, Watkins. When 245 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: we're going through some oak brush or a little bit 246 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: of a blowdown we need to take, Watkins, just take 247 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: a random uh road through a blowdown patch just so 248 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: you can. It'll be tough. It's eight a second season. 249 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Sam said, uh, where we're going? He said he heard 250 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: some bugles this week? First, rightfle finished on Sunday, and 251 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: then we'll get out there Thursday. You might even get 252 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: there in time to like go out Thursday evening and 253 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: just listen now at the bottom must they can down 254 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: at the bottom corrals by the corrals, and then and 255 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: then Friday we can we'll hunt basically but without a rifle, just. 256 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: Because they're further out. Yeah, that makes sense. 257 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: So we'll be able to we'll be able to hopefully 258 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: hear a bugle. 259 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: I don't know what. 260 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: We didn't hear anything third rifle last year. 261 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: No, we didn't hear anything. But he said they were 262 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: still bugling last week, so we'll see. 263 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing got killed up there this week too, so 264 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: that'll be should be prime, should be prime. How did 265 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: you there was a bunch of bulls allegedly. 266 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: How did you change or like, what did you add 267 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: into your training the last month? Let's say you're ready 268 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: for the hunt. 269 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: Step for every day unless I was gone, and then 270 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: even then you stuff like that. 271 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: I saw when you were at some crossfoad events selling merchandise, 272 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: so you I saw you on the treadmill. 273 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: Treadmill. So for all the events that I was gone to, 274 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: is either when I walked in to have like elliptical, 275 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: not a star Master, treadmill, a bike, So I just 276 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: picked one piece of equipment every day and just did 277 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: it for an hour. It didn't matter what it was. 278 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: Elliptical was probably the worst. 279 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: One, like the hardest one, not. 280 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 3: The hardest, was the easiest. 281 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: Bid. 282 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: It sucks. It sucks epical. 283 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: It's it's just I've never spent much time on an elliptical. 284 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: I's been an hour I have when my knee was 285 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: messed up, just trying to get a little bit or 286 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: like running in It's terrible. It's terrible. 287 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: Were you always like unweighted or what's the ratio to 288 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: which you rock and do the stairs? 289 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: I waited three times a week, so I'll go twenty five, 290 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: thirty five and fifty five and everything else is just 291 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: usually rotate each day every other day. Usually I try 292 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: to do so you go so typically weekends I'll go, 293 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: I'll do like a fifty five pounds for that hour, No, 294 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: forty forty to forty five minutes, and then or like 295 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: I'll change up because it'll you don't want to get 296 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: two complaints. It complacent the right word. But I'll go 297 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: like thirty minutes, take the pack off, do twenty minutes, 298 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: kind of just go backers and forth. 299 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: You guys are gonna learn new vocabulary. But yeah, on this. 300 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: Podcast Country Bumpkin. But usually that slid push. 301 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: Slid push is a big I was, that's what I 302 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: told you add this week. 303 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: Mean bird did that yesterday. 304 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: Rough slid push is such a good I had that 305 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: kind of epiphany on the last hunt. You know, the 306 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Saremaster is obviously really good, but you're footing is sure 307 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: you're not in that like over extended back of the 308 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: knee calf centric like walk. You know, when we were walking, 309 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking that day when we went up those 310 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: avalanche shoots. When we were going up to it, you're 311 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: just well. 312 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: The crazy part is when I was going to Beach Sprawl, 313 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: I used that treadmill. I took the incline as how 314 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: as you can get. I was like, oh, this would 315 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: be a piece of cake. Do that blue me up? 316 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is exactly how it blew me up, exactly 317 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: how it's gonna feel up a mountain. 318 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 319 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: So I went to like five. I was like, oh, 320 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: this ain't too bad on the speed, and I think 321 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: the incline was fifteen U five minutes sounds like, uh no, 322 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: what would that speed a little bit more? It blew 323 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: me up though. 324 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: It's good though, Yeah, it'll be no matter what. The 325 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: first kind of like hike of the morning, it just sucks. 326 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: There's nothing good about it. 327 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: Be bold, start cold, Jeff DUTs, Mike Scott. 328 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: I don't see. I think it might be a little 329 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: bit different for me though, because it's my first time. 330 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: I've got adrenaline from it socking. 331 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: Well, and I'm mostly just saying, like your lungs you go. 332 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: From nothing yeah to just up. Then I'm just thinking 333 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: of our first climb. When we climb on a camp 334 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: usually is just it's steep. It's about about eighteen minutes 335 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: something like that, depending on how many times we stop 336 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: and wait for people. But it's cold, there's your altitude, 337 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: and it's five point thirty in the morning. It's it's great. 338 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna once you get to the top, you're like, 339 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: hell yeah, this is awesome because the view of there 340 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: and just you just you're in it. So you will 341 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: have that like he'll have definitely have the like excitement 342 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: and we will too, because you know, you're like there's 343 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: always over that hill. You're like maybe there's something and 344 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: then there's I like, until you experience it the like 345 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: highs and lows, it's gonna be it's gonna be uh. 346 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean Ben's been there. You know. When we we 347 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: got Ben ready, he don't have a mic, does he? 348 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: He does? 349 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a mic. Oh he's not plucked up. 350 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: But Ben went with us, and you know, at first 351 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: the first day, I was a little sick the first 352 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: time when the first time Ben went, and so we 353 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: sat a wallow all day, like literally all day, and 354 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: Ben said he had the thought of like, man, we 355 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: trained way too hard for this train. Why we why 356 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: did we do this? And then the next two or 357 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: three days we hunted hard and I still remember him 358 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: going in the middle of like one of the days, 359 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: he was like, oh, yeah, I get it now. You know. 360 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where you definitely will never 361 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: get out there and go through it and and think, man, 362 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: I just trained way too much for this. 363 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like that's the point. The whole I would love 364 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: for you to feel like. 365 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole point is you get out there and 366 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: you feel great the whole time. You're you're crushing miles, 367 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: you kill a bull, you're packing it out, you can 368 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: you know, front back ham and you're fine, and that's great, 369 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: but you're not going to be like man, I'm just overtrained. 370 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 3: How far do you think you walk a day? 371 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: It depends actually, there you go. Yeah, I was just 372 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: talking to Rich yesterday. So Ben and I last week 373 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: we ran almost nine miles on Thursday, and I had 374 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: a pretty active day. Like also like worked out like hard. 375 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: So your your stride isn't really long. So this is 376 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: because I don't want some people to be there. 377 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, your stride's way different than it was, Like 378 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: it was like a nine to forty five mile pace, 379 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: Like we were running slow. We were talking the whole time, 380 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: conversational and you know, I had a normal day after that, 381 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: but like worked out, Like I sit at the desk 382 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: sometimes but sometimes I'm up and around and I had 383 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 2: twenty one thousand steps and when and this is on 384 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: the whoop, which whether the steps re accurate or not is 385 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: kind of irrelevant here because it's the same device for both. 386 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: And when we were hunting in Wyoming, every single day 387 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: I was over thirty thousand steps, and sometimes I was 388 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: like thirty three to thirty five, which means I was 389 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: we were probably putting on thirty three percent more mileage. 390 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: So like eleven thirteen miles r I. 391 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: Mean at least twelve, because if I went nine plus third, 392 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: like a third. 393 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: Of that, what's in between eleven and thirteen twelve? 394 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: But sometimes it's highre like thirty five thousand, so it 395 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: could have been up to like fifteen. 396 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: Some days we wilding wyoming, we put it in. 397 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: Right right, And that's not and that's not flat like 398 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: you're going up and over stuff. You're going over deadfall. 399 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: You're going down aggressive terrain to where it's more tiring 400 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: to go down than it is up because you're blowing 401 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: your quads up so much trying to get down whatever 402 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: it is. So it's one of those things where I 403 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: think it it'd be great if you somehow thought you 404 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: were over prepared, but I don't think that's ever the case, 405 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: even how we train. 406 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: No, I think there's still days. Really, I mean, obviously 407 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: your upper body is gonna be way different, but still, 408 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: even if you're carrying something around like surprisingly your arms 409 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: get a little bit tired and pushing stuff, pushing up 410 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: and over things. And I mean there were times runn 411 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: all fours, and so I look at the upper body 412 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: as like a preventative, you know, like if you fall, 413 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: at least you got you know, the strength to hold 414 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: yourself up and that you know that reaction to it. 415 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: So but yeah, you know right, one of the biggest 416 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: things was the what you're back was the the fatigue factor. 417 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: Just doing that every day, Yeah, for multiple days. Then 418 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 4: you get back to camp like eight at night and 419 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 4: we're all just cramming as much calories in as we can. Yeah, 420 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 4: then you're like trying to sleep as fasts you can 421 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: because you gotta be up in like seven hours and just. 422 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: Start that off again. Start. That's a huge thing. I think, 423 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: you know, when we talked to and doctor Andy Gallpin, 424 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: being as fit and healthy and rested going into the 425 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: hunt as possible, because there might be days where we 426 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: get back at eight o'clock and we get up at 427 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: five and go back. You know, like it's just you're 428 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: like Ben said, it's but there's this emotional roller coaster 429 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: that you can't account for of like excitement on the 430 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: next set of the ridge or the next set of 431 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: heavy timber or and this is we're talking archery, which 432 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: rifles a little bit different. We will be covering a 433 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: ton of ground because you know, we'll sit in glass, 434 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: we don't have something we'll move, We'll sit in glass 435 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: because we can get to some really good spots, but 436 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be work to get to those spots. And so, 437 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: but you're just on your feet all day. Your brain 438 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: is on all day. You're you're up, you're down, you're 439 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: moving around, you're emotionally, you're excited, you're disappointed, and you 440 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: just the mental physical fatigue just takes a toll on you, 441 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: which is awesome. You know, in the moment, you're like, man, 442 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: this sucks, and then when you get done, you're like, 443 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: that was awesome. You know, secondhand fun. So I'm I'm 444 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: excited for walkins to experience it. 445 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: It's one of those things too, where if the hunt's 446 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: going well, you sometimes oh are you work even harder 447 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: and you're more on mentally because let's say you're trying 448 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: to close the distance on a bowl during archery season, 449 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: it's so much mental fatigue, like your adrenaline's pumping, but 450 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: also you're going to cover so much country chasing a bowl. 451 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: Then if you're not hearing anything, like the last morning 452 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: we were in Wyoming, we went six miles. 453 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: Probably yeah, in an hour and a half. 454 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, just because this bowl was just pushing cows, pushing cows, 455 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: pushing cows. 456 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: Satellite would come in. 457 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: We're blowing up the satellites on the way in, but 458 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: we're still on the herd bowl, pushing cows, pushing cows, 459 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: and the country you can cover. I mean, we got 460 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: done and you don't realize how far you made it 461 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: until we had like two trucks parked separately and we 462 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: had to drive the truck. Yeah, we had to drive 463 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: what twenty minutes down the road or more just to 464 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: get back to where we drop we had started from. 465 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: So it's pretty crazy when you get in as we 466 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: call it, pursuit mode and you're just going after something. 467 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: But that's I mean, that's when you're thankful for that 468 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: fitness because you don't have to think about that. You 469 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: can worry about it later when you're like, man, I 470 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 2: smashed my shin on a tree, which still hurts, by 471 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: the way. My bone was that the night, No, it 472 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: was different. It was a night time one, not that morning. 473 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: But did I tell that story on here? 474 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: I don't think so. It actually also happened something like 475 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: that happened when we were going after that bear as well. 476 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we both had and that one 477 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: of those Like everybody I think thinks that rifle hunts 478 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: are like it's way easier. It is. It's a different 479 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: style of hunt. But I would say that time that 480 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: we we hunted two cow got two cows down in 481 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: that bear was the hardest four days in the woods 482 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: that we've ever had. 483 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: I felt like I got in a car accident. 484 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 485 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: We were as you pack out something every day. 486 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so so we hear bugle and it's getting 487 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: dark and we'd had Wyoming was tough, and I think 488 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: we talked about in the last podcast or one of 489 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: the podcasts that did just it was rough. You know, 490 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: wolf grizzly country, public land is tough, and so every 491 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: bull we would get within one hundred yards one hundred 492 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: and fifty yards and they just wouldn't come in. So 493 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: set last night, No, it would have been the last night. 494 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: Last night. 495 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a morning to midday hunt to do 496 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: the next day because that was the only thing that 497 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: was going on was in the mornings. But we just 498 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: happened to fire one bowl up and so we were 499 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: kind of slow played it all week and it just 500 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: wasn't working. So finally Justin was like, let's go. The 501 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: guy we were with and so we went after this thing. 502 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: He's like go, and so me and Scott went into 503 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: pursuit mode, as we call it, and we're just running 504 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: the gun and basically and it's kind of dark in 505 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: the timber, but you could see out in the meadow 506 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: it's still light. And so we take off and I 507 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: go up and over this tree what had these like 508 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: branches kind of like this. It was dead, as you know, 509 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: been dead for years. But all of a sudden, I 510 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: hear some breaking of sticks, and I hear every cussword 511 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: you can think of, and I turn around and Scott's 512 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: just like rolling, but he's still got the camera and 513 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: he's still trying to like run but cuss and like 514 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: you all right, man, I'm good. It was just so funny. 515 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: It was one of those things where you go to 516 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: step over the log, but a stick had jammed into 517 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: my boot, and so as I'm stepping, it's just getting 518 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: more jammed into my boot, and so it finally trips 519 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 2: me and then my shin hits one of those like 520 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: stoves that's poked out and it went straight into the bone. 521 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: And then I went I went over top, and I'm like, 522 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: holy my arms everywhere to not fall on the cameras 523 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: and the bone where it hit it's like if I 524 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: if I press on it right now, it still hurts, 525 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: like it's like it's just like, yeah, I don't know, 526 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: but it was. Yeah, that was a bad situation. So 527 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: you know if something like that happened. 528 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, there'll be some some moments. Yeah. So one 529 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: of my cousins is coming with us, so my uncle 530 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: this hunts with my uncle who's killed a couple of 531 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: cows with number a bull, So we're gonna get him 532 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: a bull. So we've got three bolts, a cow tag, 533 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: and then one of the other guys at camp I 534 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: think has mule deer and something else. So hopefully we'll 535 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: have some experience and you get some experience packing some 536 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: stuff out. But Ashton, my one cousin, he's not a 537 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: huge outdoorsman. He'll go with his dad and just kind 538 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: of like help. And he was talking about he was 539 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: asking questions about how what how do we hunt? And 540 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: I was just trying to explain it to him because 541 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: he said the last time when he hunted with Bill 542 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: Bill sixty five, and so he's you know, sitting in 543 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: glassing a lot and he was like, we sat for 544 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: eight hours. I said, I can almost guarantee you will 545 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: never sit for eight hours with us, except for that 546 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: one time if you're over a walla if for sick, 547 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: if we're sick. 548 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, if you're sick. If I'm sick. That happened 549 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: Wilding too, It. 550 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: Did happen in Wyoming. You've got a good nap after 551 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: that though, yeah, true, true, yeah. So yeah, I mean 552 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: you'll disconnect this week, which will be nice. You know. 553 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: Another thing that we talked about with Richard Ryan was farming. 554 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: Sustainable farming. Pretty cool that we've got that here with 555 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: the bison, you know, and it started as a just 556 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: a more of a hobby thing with the kids, so 557 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, one day they'll have you know, we can 558 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: still now at this age they get have chores and 559 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: different things and have to take care of and see 560 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: where their food comes from comes from, which is a 561 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: huge part of why we hunt as well. The kids 562 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: have gone out with us or I should tell that 563 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: story about going up to Sam or Scott McKinney's place 564 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: this last weekend with Thomas, but you know, we uh, 565 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: it's cool to look out and see that, you know, 566 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: we know where our food comes from and that modern 567 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: day disconnect with You know, anybody who listens to this 568 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: podcast doesn't have disconnect with their food, but the general 569 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: public or general general population has. You just don't realize 570 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: where your food comes from or realize that, you know, 571 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: it had a had a life at some point. And 572 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: so it's cool that my kids get to experience that 573 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: their entire life and be a part of that and 574 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: have that. 575 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: It's even cool like obviously anyone that hunts, like your 576 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: game meets a big part of your diet and you 577 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: have so much appreciation. You know where that came from. 578 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: You worked hard for it. But Watkins and I will 579 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: we'll share a cow from Where does that come from? Livingston? 580 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Oh? 581 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, So it's cool, like all the meat it 582 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: can our house, All the meat that we is either 583 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: like something I've killed, something you've killed and I've been 584 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: a part of something that comes from a coyle the 585 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 2: next county over. And then we have a like a 586 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: guy at the local market will get pork and chicken 587 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: from Yeah. So it's it's cool to know, like all 588 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: of the meat where and we try to do with 589 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: some vegetables too, Like we had a big garden, but 590 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: everything is coming from like local stuff. And that was 591 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: like part of what he talked about on the podcast 592 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: as well, which is how important the like agriculture is 593 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: and actually it being regenitive, regenerative to the ways that 594 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: it is existing, so like the farm is actually healing 595 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 2: the land, not just taking from it. So that's another 596 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: cool perspective on whether it's like me or vegetable consumption. 597 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 1: What are you most excited about this week? The bugle? 598 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: And it's just because you always do the call, So 599 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 3: it's just like I see you doing it, yeah, and 600 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: it's kind of aggravating because you just do it all 601 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: the time. So I was just like, I just want 602 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: to put that to an actual elk. 603 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: Just you just want that primal instinct on whatever we kill, 604 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: because that's what makes the sound. 605 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: So they have ivory teeth in their mouth and apparently 606 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: that's when it comes through the whistle. 607 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: Off of that, you can make a necklace out of it. 608 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: Oh, then I want to get. 609 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Shd oh. 610 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: That's that's that's that's part of the second biggest. 611 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: A couple of sheds. We found a freaking moose paddle. 612 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: We found one, we find a shed. Uh one or 613 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: two months ago in Colorado. Curtis found one. 614 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh didn't Ali find his wife. She may have 615 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: she stepped on one of them by right, Yeah, because. 616 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: I think that would be cool to like, because I'm 617 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: driving back, so keep it, keep it. And then I 618 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 3: missed out of cal this year though, putting all my 619 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: chips on the table. What do you mean where we 620 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: get a cal every I didn't get one. So he 621 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: put all my chips on. 622 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: The Hopefully we'll get at least two elk. 623 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: My first year this year. 624 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Yea, yeah. So we went up Thursday, friend of ours 625 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: pastor here in town. They do it's called uh Buck Lake. 626 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: It's a five O one C three now, so they 627 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: take critically ill children and wounded bats or just bats, 628 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: I guess on And so we went up to his place. 629 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: I took Lake one two weeks ago. Man, she had 630 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: a chance at she had a chance at a dough. 631 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: She was intimidated. I bought the kids a a crossbow, 632 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: which still I'm like with kids, I think it's great. 633 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: I think it's something, you know, gives them a chance 634 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: to get out in the woods during archery season. But 635 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: for a I'm now I was already kind of against 636 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: crossbows for archery season for able bodied men. Now that 637 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: I've seen a crossbow in action, I'm definitely against crossbows 638 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: for able bodied men in archery season. If you want 639 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: to use it during muzzleloader or whatever, fine with it. 640 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: But Lakeland was a little intimidated. She thought it was 641 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: gonna kick or she shot it a couple of times, 642 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: but just was just nervous about it. So she let 643 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: a dough pass. Well, then we had a buck come 644 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: in and we were kind of on dough duty, and 645 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: so I was texting back and forth with Scott. He 646 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: was with his daughter, and right, one hundred and twenty 647 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: inch maybe one hundred and thirty inch buck walks out. 648 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm still not really good at, you know, judging them. 649 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: It was a big, nice bot, and so it starts 650 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: to come in, and long story short, I text Scott 651 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: kind of giving him updates the whole time, and he's like, 652 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: let her have some fun. And so she was fired up. 653 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: She was ready to shoot it. And coyote about he 654 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: was probably he was coming into his frontel underneath some trees. 655 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: We were in a cornfield, and man, he was probably 656 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: fifty sixty yards out and freaking coyote just spooked him 657 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: with a little yep and he was gone. But it 658 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: was cool to see her get fired up. And then 659 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: two minutes after he was gone and it was she's 660 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: kind of like found out that it was over. She's like, 661 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: why is my head hurt so bad? Because like that 662 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: adrenaline dump, and so it was pretty cool. She was 663 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: fired up and fired up to go again. So fast 664 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: forward we went the next week and it's Trice's turn. 665 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Trice is terrified at this crossbow, but he had his 666 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: buddy over, Thomas, and they're the same age seven eight 667 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: and Thomas, we shot it here a bunch of times, 668 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: five six times, got him used to it. He'd shot 669 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: a gun a bunch And so we had these doze 670 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of about seventy yards all night and they just 671 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: nothing would close. Well. Finally, right around dark one starts 672 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: to come in and Thomas all night I'd be like, 673 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: he'd be like, what's the range? Like eighty five? He's like, oh, 674 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: I can shoot that. I'm like, bro, you can't shoot 675 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: that because it has right, yeah, it has bubbles all 676 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: the way out till hundred. But every time a deer 677 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: would walk out and I'd tell him the range, and 678 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: nothing under seventy. He'd go, oh, I got that, I 679 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: can shoot that. And so I told him, I said, 680 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: if something comes within forty, you know, I'll let you 681 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: do it. So, you know, at different times, I would 682 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: be like, all right, it's at seventy. Practice putting the 683 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: bubble that's the seventy on it, and practice pulling it. 684 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: So we practice all night, and so one comes out 685 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: at forty or one's coming in, and so I'm like, 686 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: all right, Thomas said, looks like this is gonna be 687 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: the one. He's like, all right, we'ren a shooting house 688 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: and he's up on the ledge, he's got the crossbow, 689 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: and I'm behind him, and I'm like, all right, here 690 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: we go, Bud. He said, he's at she's at forty. 691 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: She's at forty four. I think, I said, so aimed. 692 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: You know, I showed you where to aim on the 693 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: target here, and he was drilling tax and so I 694 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: was like, aim just a little bit higher than that, 695 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: and you know, let me know when you're ready. He's like, 696 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: all right, I'm ready to say, all right, safe's off 697 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: those years and dude, I've still got to get used 698 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: to seeing the bolt leave the crossbow because it goes 699 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: so fast. 700 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: It's smaller too. 701 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: No, it's well, it's shorter, but it's thicker. I mean 702 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: it's shorter, shorter, but it like if it passes through something, 703 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: it passes through so quick that it looks like it's 704 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: a whiff. And so I see it hit the ground 705 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: and him and Trice are like, heart shot, she's dead. 706 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think you missed. But and so we're 707 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: sitting there and they're like, yep, nope, smoked her got her. 708 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: These two and they must have said six seven, four 709 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty thousand times. You know that six seven 710 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: that kids do. They must have said it a million. 711 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: Times in seven. 712 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: It's in a song. You don't have kids old enough yet. 713 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: You're probably aren't there yet, Ben, But man's this like 714 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: it was in a rap song. I don't get it. 715 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 1: Nobody gets it, but the kids love it. Anyway. 716 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: What song is it in? 717 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't know where they would 718 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: have heard it other than at school, but they do 719 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: this like six even thing, and it's anybody listening, you 720 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: can tell us if you actually Apparently it's this guy. 721 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: This guy was singing about his friend who's six seven, 722 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: but it's in a song and the kids think it's awesome. 723 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but anyway, so we sit there, Scott 724 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: comes and gets us and turns out he just he 725 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: whifted her just underneath, not whift her, but he got 726 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: a little We searched for hours and found a little 727 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: bit of blood, but it wasn't a kill shot. 728 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: And Bird's son, on the other hand, was he hit 729 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 2: his daily limit? 730 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he killed three dos in one day. It was 731 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: like put in a put an arrow, won a car, 732 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: put an arrow one in a car, just like Vegas vacation. Yeah. 733 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: So Bird came in the next day and he was 734 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: so run down? Was it because well I guess he 735 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: had got those three deer and then well. 736 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: No, they got it. We got it him there And 737 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why he skinned him and not just 738 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 1: drop him off like in here in Tennessee. 739 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 2: The processor, Yeah, they just take a deer. Yeah, it 740 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: leaves a cool skin them. He skinned them or both. 741 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: Which I get. 742 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 2: If you're gonna do it yourself, well that's why I said, 743 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: So you're gonna process them. No, I'm going to take 744 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: the why'd you do all the all the work? Yeah, 745 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: you've already done everything so that was pretty funny. But yeah, 746 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 2: it sounds like a cool spot. 747 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: No, it's awesome. Yeah, so I think we'll go back 748 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: there late season, he said, with rifles, because they need 749 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: some does knocked down. I mean we saw I saw 750 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: thirty does. You guys only saw like five or six. Yes, 751 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: six d Lane had fifteen dos just in one video 752 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: that one time, but there were none within range. Nothing 753 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: was in. It was all like everything would come out 754 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: about sixty seventy yards and with that crossbow. 755 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: Then of course here in Tennessee, we had a cold 756 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: front come through yesterday, so we had to get that 757 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: rifle sited in for the elk hunt. But deer were 758 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: on their feet, deer on their feet all day and 759 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: it must have been everywhere because one of our athletes, 760 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: Austin Hatfield, his shooter buck was out at like nine 761 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: o'clock fifteen yards from his stand yep in West Virginia. 762 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a good day to be I 763 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: guess yep. So you're trying to get your first year 764 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: this year too, Mike. Have you shot? Have you had 765 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: an opportunity at one yet? Have you been able to 766 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 2: draw back? Yeah? 767 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: I've drawing back, but everything so when I say I 768 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: draw back just to make sure I could. Yeah, in 769 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: the position that I was in. 770 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've never drawn back on an animal. 771 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 2: You've never drawn back on an animal with the intent 772 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 2: of Okay, I'm gonna let an go. Yeah, that'll be 773 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: interesting to see, like how your body reacts to it. 774 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 3: And then so the past two weeks everything's just been new. 775 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 3: So when we went to that form, I guess you 776 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 3: would call it when they dressed it first time, saying. 777 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: Oh you've never seen something, gut it. Oh, man, I 778 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: hope we kill and it was cool. I mean I 779 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: can almost I don't want to say this, I shouldn't 780 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: say it, but I can almost guarantee we'll kill cal we. 781 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: In the in our whole group, because that's when something 782 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 2: there's going to be three four shooters. 783 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, four shooters, four. 784 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: Shooters in camp. So something you should be able to 785 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: see something because I would think, depending on how the 786 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: day goes, we would go over and help. 787 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 788 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,479 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping you fill them all on a bear 789 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,479 Speaker 3: because you're getting another bear tag rat. Yes, I hope 790 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: you get them all. 791 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: The odds of us seeing a bear are not high, 792 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: so I wouldn't hold your breath on that still. That 793 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 2: was the joke when we saw the bear, as we 794 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. Apparently in West Virginia where Hatfield hunts, 795 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: bear like our huge problem, like they're everywhere and. 796 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 3: That would freak me out. 797 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 2: His he had a bear on camera yesterday. We were 798 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: working out and had a bear on camera, and he 799 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: knew his buddy was hunting and he had a miscall 800 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 2: and he's like, Oh, I wonder what have here? So 801 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: he called him and I guess for some reason, he 802 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 2: he was dialed to like thirty. He has a three pin. 803 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: He's dialed like thirty forty fifty. But the bear was 804 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 2: at fifteen, but he thought he was at twenty thirty forty. 805 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: Somehow Hatfield's buddy and he just shot, like missed it 806 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: by a mile because the bear. And he's like, I'm 807 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: not even mad that you missed because like you don't 808 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: get the bear. I'm mad because you didn't kill the 809 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: bear because I guess there's so many bears there it's 810 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 2: just destroying like other populations. Yeah, he said the area 811 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 2: is a big, big bear, big bear problem. 812 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: He said, if we want to come up there and 813 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: kill bear next year, we should. 814 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's killed on every year the past like seven years. 815 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, doesn't post it on social because people freak out. 816 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah he didn't. He was killed a deer this year too, 817 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: he didn't post it. He must not be allowed to 818 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 2: keeping those followers. 819 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, you got any questions, anything you're 820 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: worried about, anything you think is beneficial to guys that, well, 821 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a follow up podcast after so you 822 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: can like tell, hey, we should have done this. Hey, 823 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: you guys should have told me this. 824 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 3: Hey, another thing I've done while I was going. Of course, 825 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: obviously there's no steppers, so I just walked the stairs 826 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 3: at the hotel. That's what his uncle does, up down, 827 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 3: up and down and down for thirty minutes. I'm sure 828 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 3: everybody's just like, what's this guy doing? 829 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Was it in the open or was it in the like, No, 830 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: it's like in. 831 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 3: The stairwheel, just up and down, up and down. 832 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: It's probably good because the downhill is what sucks the worst. 833 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: That's probably what I'm most kind of nervous. 834 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: That downhill is the worst, just. 835 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 3: Because short legs. Yeah I'm short and stubby. 836 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't mean this in a bad way, 837 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 2: but if if you're able to do it coming from 838 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: east of the Mississippi, so you don't live in mountains necessarily, 839 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: like we've got mountains, but not like that, and your 840 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 2: like body shape and structure is not built for the mountains. 841 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: So if you can do it, anyone can do it. 842 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: Built different, Yeah, different, No, I say, like if you yeah, 843 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 3: what are you? 844 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 2: Five six on a good day, but your long tours 845 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 2: though a short leg Yeah yeah. 846 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 3: I got some stubby stubby legs. But I think on 847 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 3: the which will be interesting is just like when we 848 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 3: get back, like I'll know more. 849 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: Yeah about how to train for the next one. 850 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 3: But I think a lot of good hands step ups 851 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 3: to just boxes mm hmm yeah. What else? I think 852 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 3: that's It's pretty the main thing I think right now. 853 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 3: Of course, everything is new to me, so I don't know. 854 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: We'll have a follow up. 855 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll follow up. 856 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: I'm pumped. 857 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: All right, that's it. Anything else, No, we're good, yep, 858 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: we'll follow up, all right, next uh, next guest, I'm 859 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: an insult. 860 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: True, we'll get another podcast, all right. 861 00:40:59,600 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 2: Peace