Speaker 1: Well, well, it's my turn to say, well, well, well we're.
Speaker 2: Back at it again. Baby Miles is out.
Speaker 1: So I'm thrilled to be joined by super producer Jabbari
Speaker 1: and we're talking about the Steph Curry documentary Underrated.
Speaker 2: We are talking top five.
Speaker 1: Starting lineups and more with comedian long Overdue guest of
Speaker 1: this podcast, one of the first people we mentioned. We
Speaker 1: said we're doing a basketball podcast.
Speaker 3: We need to Kenny.
Speaker 1: Dforest on Miles and Jack got Matt boosties and we
Speaker 1: got him today, folks, and Miles is ducking him. I'm
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien and now Jabbari in for Mile and this
Speaker 1: is Miles in Jack and ocasionally Jabari, you got Matt boosted.
Speaker 2: Davis, here's your jamby drive me Spinty.
Speaker 3: Curry a three punter.
Speaker 2: Steph Curry from the tile again, Kenny DeForrest. What's good man, dude.
Speaker 4: It's such a p First of all, I am very
Speaker 4: proud that to be a person that when you started
Speaker 4: an NBA podcast, I'm one of the first people you
Speaker 4: think of, So that.
Speaker 3: Is that makes me feel real good right here in
Speaker 3: the heart. Yeah, and we know, you know, because I'm
Speaker 3: on that showed us. I mean we got to play
Speaker 3: one on one, Like, you know, I'm not asking to
Speaker 3: meet me on the court. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just implied by your presence and all the
Speaker 1: kind of shots that you're putting up in the background
Speaker 1: while we're having the conversation. Uh, he's got a pretty
Speaker 1: j folks. Yeah, but I remember, like you, you would
Speaker 1: come on TDZ, we talk about the news, then we
Speaker 1: break for a commercial, then we talk about hoops during
Speaker 1: the part that wasn't being recorded. Then we come back
Speaker 1: and talk about the news, and so yeah, very early
Speaker 1: on we were like this, we need to have this
Speaker 1: man on to talk hoops.
Speaker 2: Uh you are a bulls fan.
Speaker 1: Uh from a bull situational Bulls fan are always No.
Speaker 4: I want to be very very clear. I was there
Speaker 4: for the Ron Mercer era. You know, I was excited
Speaker 4: when we traded for John Salins.
Speaker 3: Like you know, when we took Tyris Thomas. I was like,
Speaker 3: let's let.
Speaker 2: Let's go Thomas era has begun, let's.
Speaker 3: Go athletic upside over skill. Let the Blazers have LaMarcus.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say you didn't want LaMarcus, you
Speaker 5: were you were all about the Tyres train.
Speaker 3: No, I wanted LaMarcus. I was so upset. I was
Speaker 3: deeply upset.
Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know if we want to
Speaker 4: launchend to this already, but thinking about LaMarcus Aldridge and Derek.
Speaker 3: Rowse and his prime just makes me want to cry
Speaker 3: myself asleep because that's exactly what we needed.
Speaker 4: That's what we tried to get with Carlos Boozer, but
Speaker 4: we could have had it from the beginning.
Speaker 5: If you go back through, like pretty much any draft,
Speaker 5: there's always that, but the ones that sting the most
Speaker 5: your own squad.
Speaker 6: I understand that.
Speaker 5: By the way, John Salmon's fantasy basketball stood for like
Speaker 5: a season and a half, I wanted him at that
Speaker 5: time on the Lakers. So I mean, I'm happy for
Speaker 5: you that you've got to experience that.
Speaker 3: The Orlando Magic do that to guys. You know, you're
Speaker 3: like a role player somewhere else.
Speaker 4: You go to the Magic, you suddenly average eighteen a game,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, Evan Fornie is getting sixteen
Speaker 4: million a year and no one knows why because he
Speaker 4: went to the Magic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be a category we talk about on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Is just like all time great fantasy players
Speaker 1: whose names. Most people don't know what stats was Salmon's
Speaker 1: filling up. We're not calling him Salmons.
Speaker 5: I think it was actually Salmon's, or at least I
Speaker 5: was calling him that, so maybe it maybe it was,
Speaker 5: but he did it was because he did a little
Speaker 5: bit of everything and he got you steals and you know,
Speaker 5: you know, rebounds for his position.
Speaker 1: We could talk more about your fandom as we go,
Speaker 1: but really everyone is playing for second place in our hearts.
Speaker 2: After watching Underrated the.
Speaker 1: Stefan Curry documentary Stephen Curry, Steph Curry, there there was
Speaker 1: a good moment where school announcer introduces him as stiff
Speaker 1: Stephen Curry and his mom is like, yeah, bozo, it's
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. But this, this is a triumph. The autobiographical
Speaker 1: documentary is always going to pull at your heart strings.
Speaker 1: It's a very effective weapon. But man, it got me.
Speaker 2: How about you guys?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Man, I mean, for one, it always it hurts because
Speaker 4: I always use being too small and slow as my
Speaker 4: excuse for not being in the NBA. Yeah, and then
Speaker 4: you see that, it's like maybe I should have just
Speaker 4: like shot a thousand jump shots a day and I
Speaker 4: would have found my way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. I mean, it's unreal. He was a child,
Speaker 3: a child.
Speaker 1: So this is the thing that struck me the most
Speaker 1: from the documentary is I was asking myself did they
Speaker 1: digitally shrink him for all of the like old footage
Speaker 1: from college and high school? Like in high school, you
Speaker 1: usually you'll see an NBA player who's like, you know,
Speaker 1: a point guard or something, and then you see them
Speaker 1: back in high school and they still look big compared
Speaker 1: to everyone else because they're playing in high school. But
Speaker 1: he looked keeeney out there in high school. He looked
Speaker 1: when he comes out in the big T shirt like
Speaker 1: for his first college like midnight madness at college and
Speaker 1: they're introducing him like you were like, who let this
Speaker 1: child onto the practice floor? This is like because he's
Speaker 1: also it was at a time when all clothes were oversized,
Speaker 1: so he just looks like a kid who put on
Speaker 1: his dad's like workout stuff.
Speaker 2: But man, he looked small even like his early Warriors days.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, did he hit a gross spurt
Speaker 1: like mid career in the NBA, because I like that.
Speaker 1: That is my first and biggest question from the documentary
Speaker 1: is like he's six two, Like six ' two is
Speaker 1: not a small person like Miles is six two. The
Speaker 1: first thing I noticed about him, and when I hang
Speaker 1: out with him again for the first time in a while,
Speaker 1: it is like, Miles is tall.
Speaker 2: Miles is a tall person.
Speaker 1: It's like an optical illusion because he's not small anymore.
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't strike me as small anymore. When I
Speaker 1: see him play. He just seems like a normal sized
Speaker 1: NBA guard. And I'm wondering, like, is it because he's
Speaker 1: grown so much in my estimation and I've seen him
Speaker 1: like just do so much on the court that I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: he's not small. He's like one of the best players
Speaker 1: in the league.
Speaker 2: Is it hair? Did he put his hair?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Is his hair giving him an extra inch? Is it
Speaker 2: that he like his body filled out? I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't really tell what it is or did they
Speaker 1: usually shrink him.
Speaker 5: I mean, there may be a little bit of that,
Speaker 5: but now, honestly, I think you hit it on the head.
Speaker 5: It's more of his body filling out. Because it's one
Speaker 5: thing to be six to, you know, walking amongst giants
Speaker 5: or you know, like you know, under six to or
Speaker 5: whatever the case, we be walking tomoch giants, but to
Speaker 5: the point that you made. His shoulders are like twelve
Speaker 5: inches apart, you know what I mean, Like not just
Speaker 5: when you use it in college, that rookie year with
Speaker 5: Golden State. He's just a small framed guy. So to
Speaker 5: see where he is now, you know, it's still inspiring.
Speaker 5: He's still a small guy out there, but he's significantly
Speaker 5: larger than he was, you know, early on.
Speaker 4: You know what blows my mind about his game. And
Speaker 4: I was noticing this. I mean I've been noticing it,
Speaker 4: but like this last playoffs was a couple of times.
Speaker 4: The way he's become one of the best finishers around
Speaker 4: the basket is like we know him for he's one
Speaker 4: of the greatest, probably the greatest shooter I ever played
Speaker 4: the game. But being that small coming in, it was like, well,
Speaker 4: there's no way he'll ever finish around the hoop in
Speaker 4: the NBA. There's no way. And now I think of
Speaker 4: him as one of the best finishers in the league.
Speaker 4: And that's just a testament to how much. And it's
Speaker 4: weird he's been able to put on strength without a
Speaker 4: ton of bulk, Like he looks bigger, but it's not
Speaker 4: like he's got those like bowling ball arms. You know what,
Speaker 4: I'm saying he doesn't have like that Shrod Collins build
Speaker 4: or whatever. You know, It's like he's still very thin,
Speaker 4: but it's just like he put on muscle in the
Speaker 4: exact right ways where it didn't affect his touch. And
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, probably having an NBA father who was
Speaker 4: also kind of an a skinny shooter probably helped him
Speaker 4: because he you know, having a dad that's like listen,
Speaker 4: listen to the nutritionists, do what they tell you, it
Speaker 4: will work. That's got to help. I'm sure a lot
Speaker 4: of guys coming in don't want to hear it. They
Speaker 4: don't want to eat super healthy, you know.
Speaker 5: As crazy as it is, I had forgotten about his
Speaker 5: ankle issue, and you know, I'm sure we were going
Speaker 5: to get.
Speaker 6: To it, but when that part came up into DOCUMENTIO
Speaker 6: was like, oh yeah, on top.
Speaker 5: Of being small, on top of being slide of build,
Speaker 5: he also had ankle and issues his first like three
Speaker 5: seasons in the league that would sideline him.
Speaker 1: And they showed him like twist his ankle and like
Speaker 1: hobble off the court like six times in a row,
Speaker 1: which I remember that was what I knew him as
Speaker 1: when he first came in, Like obviously I remembered his
Speaker 1: run in the NCAA Tournament, but I was like and
Speaker 1: then like his ankles just gave out, like what he
Speaker 1: was like one of those like Brandon roy type people.
Speaker 1: Was just like, yeah, I don't know, his bodies just
Speaker 1: not built for the grind. But like Kenny to your
Speaker 1: point about finishing around the rim, like I didn't even
Speaker 1: want him going to the basket in the footage from
Speaker 1: like Davidson, like he couldn't finish around the rim at
Speaker 1: the college level. His first game in college he had
Speaker 1: twelve was that right? Twelvenote thirteen turnovers like he throughout
Speaker 1: his career. He just like builds from a point of
Speaker 1: looking like a child who like does not belong there.
Speaker 1: It's really like one of the wildest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Like when I was a kid, I wrote an autobiography
Speaker 1: of Mark Jackson because he was my favorite NBA player
Speaker 1: when I was like seven years old, and I like
Speaker 1: gave it to him, and the whole story was all
Speaker 1: about like how he was so small growing up and
Speaker 1: like everybody said he was like too tiny to play
Speaker 1: basketball because I just like made it up because I
Speaker 1: had only seen him next to like Patrick Ewing and stuff,
Speaker 1: and he was like, actually, I was like normal size,
Speaker 1: Like I was a pretty normal sized person, maybe like
Speaker 1: a little bit above average height, and but like that
Speaker 1: that is going to be the case almost every time.
Speaker 1: The fact that this dude was so little every time
Speaker 1: he entered a new level and like so unprepared and
Speaker 1: ended up being one of the best players in the
Speaker 1: league and like somebody who completely changed how how we
Speaker 1: think about the game. Like the Virginia Tech story is
Speaker 1: so wild, Like he wanted to play for Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: That's where his parents went. Like colleges love to let
Speaker 1: legacy admissions it. They loved that. They wouldn't give him
Speaker 1: a spot on the team.
Speaker 6: His dad's jerseys and the Rafters.
Speaker 1: Jerseys and the Rafters and they were like, no, thank you, sir,
Speaker 1: we've witnessed your game and like, no, it's not happening.
Speaker 1: Like that's how much he changed, because it's like all
Speaker 1: you can do is shoot, and it's like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: it's kind of important. Though pretty good skinny, you think
Speaker 1: about it pretty good.
Speaker 4: Well, And it's like the other crazy part when you
Speaker 4: add in not only was he so small, but he
Speaker 4: wasn't particularly quick That's the other thing, like the fact
Speaker 4: that that's a big part of his scouting report too.
Speaker 4: I kind of understand teams being hesitant because it's like,
Speaker 4: all right, you can be small, but you better be
Speaker 4: alan iverson quick. You better be like breaking dudes off.
Speaker 4: They can't stay with you when you're running off screens.
Speaker 4: The guy's just exhausted. He can't keep up. But none
Speaker 4: of that was true when he was younger, and now
Speaker 4: I think of him as quick. But you know, like
Speaker 4: that's like the first thing is Reggie Miller reading a
Speaker 4: scouting report and you're like, yeah, he wasn't even considered quick,
Speaker 4: Like that's mind blowing. Yeah, But in general, I will
Speaker 4: say this, this kind of blows my mind.
Speaker 3: I feel like.
Speaker 4: Decision makers and shock collars be a college or NBA,
Speaker 4: there's like a tendency to not want to overweight.
Speaker 3: Uh, this guy is the son of a guy who's
Speaker 3: done this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes they overthink it and underweight it because it's like, like.
Speaker 3: To use the NFL as an example, you know, TJ.
Speaker 4: Watt when he was coming out in the draft, everyone
Speaker 4: in the Watt family is like he's the best one,
Speaker 4: and JJ Watt's like an all League defensive player.
Speaker 2: He's maybe the best player in the NFL at the time.
Speaker 4: Every one of the families like DJ is the guy.
Speaker 4: And he still goes twenty third in the first round.
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there going what is everyone doing? And now,
Speaker 4: of course he's an all pro pass rusher. It's like,
Speaker 4: I know you don't want to overthink it, but the
Speaker 4: DNA matters, and you know you've got the DNA and
Speaker 4: you've had to coach your whole life. Yeah, a guy
Speaker 4: who was known for being a great shooter was is
Speaker 4: your father and your shooting coach.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, take a chance on the kid.
Speaker 3: I bet he'll figure it out.
Speaker 6: And it's one.
Speaker 5: It's one thing if like the guy has a reputation
Speaker 5: for being a jerk or like, you know, difficult to
Speaker 5: deal with. By all accounts, Steph was awesome. By all accounts,
Speaker 5: he was like incredibly respectful. He grew up around the league. Look,
Speaker 5: I'm with you, Kenny in terms of understanding why there
Speaker 5: may have been some hesitance, But I will always say, Minnesota,
Speaker 5: you pick two, you pick two point guards in that
Speaker 5: same draft ahead, I don't care, And I don't mean
Speaker 5: that as I don't want to be disparaging you. But
Speaker 5: Johnny Flinkama and you know Ricky Ruveal, like, hey, you know,
Speaker 5: all respect, he's had a great career. Well come on, man,
Speaker 5: you had the opportunity twice and you.
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, you had two picks and you didn't go
Speaker 1: with one flyer on the person who ended up changing
Speaker 1: the league.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We're going to keep talking about this documentary and other stuff,
Speaker 1: and we're back and just going to the point you
Speaker 1: make Anny about him having like great shooter as a dad,
Speaker 1: you get to see him go from shooting like the
Speaker 1: way going into high school. I think it is his
Speaker 1: as like he shoots from his waist like he should.
Speaker 1: He releases from his belly button and you see a shot.
Speaker 1: And that's actually always been a thing that I've thought
Speaker 1: about with his shot, is that it's it's a much
Speaker 1: lower release than you traditionally are told like you can
Speaker 1: get away with in high level basketball. And it's it
Speaker 1: it looks more like a kid's shot than you know,
Speaker 1: the shots that you've traditionally seen that are like up
Speaker 1: over the hairline, you know. But it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: I had that moment, and I think it was middle school.
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 1: My dad was like, all right, you got to get
Speaker 1: your shot like off of your chest and like up
Speaker 1: above your headline.
Speaker 2: And I never made the uh never made that leap, folks.
Speaker 1: Both my shots, by the way, were ugly as hell,
Speaker 1: so it was it was never gonna happen.
Speaker 2: But man, he uh.
Speaker 1: Just that that was like such a did you guys
Speaker 1: ever have that where you like had to make that
Speaker 1: conscious decision to like change your shot to like be
Speaker 1: a higher release jack.
Speaker 5: I was five trying to play, you know, trying to
Speaker 5: play against real players, So yes.
Speaker 6: I absolutely had to do that.
Speaker 5: And to your point, his shot looks like the shot
Speaker 5: of a small guy that had to you know, figure
Speaker 5: it out.
Speaker 6: So it's kind of like a fling.
Speaker 5: You'll far be in for me to criticize, but it
Speaker 5: absolutely is a bit of a fling even.
Speaker 4: To Yeah, I had to play down low a lot.
Speaker 4: And I was only six to two in high school
Speaker 4: and I grew two inches in college and six four now.
Speaker 4: But I studied Dirk like I if I was like,
Speaker 4: if I'm going to be in the post, it's got
Speaker 4: to be straight away. When I was I had like
Speaker 4: a different shot in the post and then on the perimeter.
Speaker 4: But by the end I was right at the eyebrow push. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it took it took a lot, man, It took
Speaker 4: a lot to get there, because yeah, I was I
Speaker 4: was like a heaver when I was young.
Speaker 2: Yeah on the head.
Speaker 3: Yeah man.
Speaker 4: And also real quick, just to your point about Virginia
Speaker 4: Tech not wanting him, I was watching that and I
Speaker 4: honestly think though that's probably the biggest blessing that could
Speaker 4: have happened to him, is to go to a smaller
Speaker 4: school to gain his confidence.
Speaker 3: Because dude, if you go.
Speaker 4: In that small to like that to the ACC, I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't even know if he makes it to his
Speaker 4: freshman year, you know, like you kind of its kind
Speaker 4: of good.
Speaker 3: He has a leash to grow.
Speaker 4: Like I played with a kid that was an incredible
Speaker 4: ball player, incredible high school player and went big time d.
Speaker 3: One and it was it was too much.
Speaker 4: It was like a lot, you know, and then he
Speaker 4: transferred mid major and had a good career. But I
Speaker 4: always wonder, like, you always want to go as big
Speaker 4: as you can, but then sometimes it's not a bad
Speaker 4: thing to go smaller.
Speaker 3: You have a little more leash. You have a little
Speaker 3: more room to grow. The competition's not pushing you around
Speaker 3: as much. You can gain your confidence, you.
Speaker 5: Know, piggybacking on that and jack to your point. Imagine
Speaker 5: he has thirteen turnovers in his first game in the ACC.
Speaker 5: Now I'm not saying it would have been to him,
Speaker 5: but he might not have you know, it might not
Speaker 5: have looked quite You might not have put thirty two
Speaker 5: up in that very next game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it helps, It helps your case, and it helps
Speaker 1: your coach have confidence in you when the next option
Speaker 1: isn't it is not like near the same level as you.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, just stray thoughts. First of all,
Speaker 1: I think we can now retire the this trope from documentaries.
Speaker 1: You're shooting an empty chair, the person walks up, you
Speaker 1: see them from behind, sit down for an interview, take
Speaker 1: the take the iPad from you, and they say, all right,
Speaker 1: you want to start that. That's how this opens. It's
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller who's doing this sitting down. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm over it, but it's like it obviously a.
Speaker 2: Very effective documentary. But that that was the.
Speaker 1: One moment where I was like, oh no, are we
Speaker 1: what are we doing here.
Speaker 5: You thought they were running like a Windy's commercial before
Speaker 5: the duck Reggie Popu.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I could have used more Reggie commentary.
Speaker 1: It was funny how the twenty nineteen like it was
Speaker 1: right around twenty nineteen where all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: takes start getting so much spicier, Like prior to that,
Speaker 1: you have to like rely on interviews with his parents
Speaker 1: to be like everybody called him a twerp and like
Speaker 1: we're pushing him around, and then like twenty nineteen, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the takes come in and they're like,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry will never be in another NBA finals. This
Speaker 1: guy isn't built for Like this is after he's won
Speaker 1: three titles. Everything everyone's coming through him, dealing. Guy's just
Speaker 1: not built. I don't like his body for the NBA.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh my god, you can build a
Speaker 1: documentary that says anybody is an underdog at this point
Speaker 1: from from now on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt, I'm sure you could find footage
Speaker 4: you could put together like no, no one said Lebron
Speaker 4: James could make it. You could definitely, you could definitely
Speaker 4: find plenty of footage of like Steven a smith being,
Speaker 4: Like I don't think he's he's he ain't a leader.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you guys remember that one Kobe commercial. Uh,
Speaker 5: it was probably like four or five. Specifically, it was
Speaker 5: like it was like him reading or it was a
Speaker 5: voice reading off like headlines that involved him, like basically
Speaker 5: detractors and doubters and things of that nature. That's the
Speaker 5: vibe that I got when I was watching this documentary
Speaker 5: because I always, foolishly initially used to think, like you're
Speaker 5: the great, You're like one of the greats to ever
Speaker 5: do this, Like why do you care? But it's only
Speaker 5: now that I realized, like those guys still need that
Speaker 5: as motivation and as as as much as you know,
Speaker 5: we see them as or you know, not maybe not
Speaker 5: you guys, but I sometimes have seen guys as like
Speaker 5: superheroes when it comes to the things that they're able
Speaker 5: to do. You know, from a physical standpoint, they're still
Speaker 5: human beings that hear all of those all of those
Speaker 5: criticisms and read all of those stories.
Speaker 6: So I don't know, to me, it was it was
Speaker 6: kind of inspirational.
Speaker 5: It was one of those like he's like one of us,
Speaker 5: Like as I you know, it normalized him as opposed to,
Speaker 5: you know, being annoying.
Speaker 6: I guess I could say, yeah.
Speaker 1: The watching his workouts, like you really do get to
Speaker 1: get a feeling that you're like getting to watch watch
Speaker 1: him build his game like brick by brick and watching
Speaker 1: his workouts. I mean that that's something that people like
Speaker 1: show up hours early for the game to watch. But
Speaker 1: like that was something I could have used more workout footage,
Speaker 1: like just like watching him like do that thing where
Speaker 1: he like bounces off one foot and does like a
Speaker 1: step back that covers five feet and then like nails of.
Speaker 2: Three Like that was so fun. I could watch that
Speaker 2: for hours.
Speaker 1: Like that I could have used more just him casually
Speaker 1: making like three quarter court shots, just because that's a
Speaker 1: unique superpower that he has.
Speaker 5: Did you notice at one point they he was just
Speaker 5: casually shooting a half court left handed three pointers, like
Speaker 5: just just to do it and sinking them. But during
Speaker 5: that workout, at one point in the footage, he's just like, Okay.
Speaker 6: Let me just shoot a couple lefties. Just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think part of the trick of the movie
Speaker 1: is covering up the fact that this this man has
Speaker 1: an actual superpower and has since he was a child, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: being able to make threes with your left is no joke.
Speaker 2: Have you seen his golf swing?
Speaker 1: Like it's just the most perfect, Like it's better looking
Speaker 1: than any golf swing that you've seen on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, that's that's just until Chuck.
Speaker 4: What's really crazy too? And I was talking to this,
Speaker 4: I was talking to my boy about this. And to
Speaker 4: be clear before I say this, I'm not a Lebron hater.
Speaker 4: You know there's a lot of Lebron haters out there.
Speaker 4: I am not a Lebron hatre. But you could argue
Speaker 4: that Steph changed the game in a way that Lebron
Speaker 4: did not. Leron is amazing, But it's not like he's
Speaker 4: the first tall point guard, you know, like we've seen
Speaker 4: magic before.
Speaker 3: He's an elite athlete to the level that we've never seen.
Speaker 4: But when Lebron started playing, I wasn't like, oh, I've
Speaker 4: never seen this, Like he reminded me of Scottie Pippen,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It was like, okay, big
Speaker 4: point forward athlete, two way player, elite defender.
Speaker 3: But I've seen that, not on Lebron's level, but I've
Speaker 3: seen it.
Speaker 4: Steph like he there's a reason NBA has played the
Speaker 4: way it is now, and it was because the Warriors.
Speaker 3: Showed teams what spacing can do.
Speaker 4: And that's when now everybody has to shoot threes, everybody
Speaker 4: has to clear out. To me, that's traced back to
Speaker 4: step and like, oh, we have to guard this guy
Speaker 4: as soon as across his half court and then the
Speaker 4: space that creates everybody else. And yeah, it's insane that
Speaker 4: he started off as this, Like could he even make
Speaker 4: a team?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's yeah.
Speaker 1: He I feel like he changed the game more than
Speaker 1: anyone since like Luel Center, like whoever, Like like everything changed,
Speaker 1: and then you know Kream comes in, everybody is like
Speaker 1: being center oriented and then for.
Speaker 2: All like decades, that's the that's the plan.
Speaker 1: You got to do that, and like he's completely reoriented everything.
Speaker 1: I will say, as as a Lebron lover, when he
Speaker 1: went against Detroit early on, I forget what year was
Speaker 1: in his career. I think it was like second or
Speaker 1: third year and then like was just getting to the
Speaker 1: rim on the best defensive team in the league every
Speaker 1: single time. That to me felt like, oh, we are
Speaker 1: witnessing something that is different than I've I've seen anyone
Speaker 1: do at this level, Like in like I've seen people
Speaker 1: go to the rim and dunk, I've not seen it
Speaker 1: be like this consistently. Just he can get to the
Speaker 1: rim and dunk with both hands like every time. Was
Speaker 1: one of the craziest things. But it didn't reorient how
Speaker 1: people played the game and like game planned for the
Speaker 1: next season, right.
Speaker 4: And that's all I mean, Like, yeah, totally, I'm tired
Speaker 4: of the Lebron hat takes.
Speaker 3: The guy has earned our respect. If you're a.
Speaker 4: Hoophead, yeah, you can critique him all you want. That's
Speaker 4: what it comes with the territory being an all time great.
Speaker 4: But enough the guy. The guy's unbelievable. But again, I
Speaker 4: just and you already said it, I just think Steff
Speaker 4: changed the way the game is played.
Speaker 3: It's remarkable, it really.
Speaker 6: Is, if you think about it.
Speaker 5: I mean, we can look at Lebron and you know,
Speaker 5: as much as we want, we can't duplicate that.
Speaker 6: The belief that comes with you know, like if you're a.
Speaker 5: Kid watching the game, you might you'll think Lebron is
Speaker 5: incredit you might think these, you know, the big guys
Speaker 5: are incredible, But all of a sudden, you see this
Speaker 5: little guy, whether he's six two or not six two
Speaker 5: and three quarters or whatever the case may be, you
Speaker 5: see this little guy out there just flinging it up
Speaker 5: and you'll, you know, dipping in and somehow you'll you'll
Speaker 5: you'll finding his way like all over the court. And
Speaker 5: it's like and it's like, hey, I could probably do that,
Speaker 5: or I could possibly do that even if I can't.
Speaker 6: So I totally understand that.
Speaker 3: And also the idea that you can add to your game,
Speaker 3: like just.
Speaker 4: Because you come into the league because of your one skill,
Speaker 4: which is shooting. I mean, I remember early in his
Speaker 4: career they were like, Steph's not a point guard, he's
Speaker 4: a shooting guard. And you watch him now franking Ankles,
Speaker 4: no look passes. I mean, he's not going to lead
Speaker 4: the league in assist but he doesn't have to. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but he's a legitimate point guard. He's a legitimate three
Speaker 4: level score and he came into the league as a
Speaker 4: three point specialist.
Speaker 3: That's it. You know, you can add to your game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it also makes you wonder like some of these
Speaker 4: guys that come up with more talent, It's like, is
Speaker 4: it a work ethic thing? Because you have access to
Speaker 4: the same shooting coaches like to me working on your jumper.
Speaker 4: Like guys that come to the NBA and never get
Speaker 4: better at shooting, I'm like, what have you been doing?
Speaker 4: Or like your free throw percentage doesn't increase at all
Speaker 4: throughout your career.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how is that even possible?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, at the end of practice you just you know,
Speaker 4: shoot a hundred free throws or whatever. It's like it's inconceivable, honestly,
Speaker 4: But I.
Speaker 1: Think there is a piece of staff that is missing
Speaker 1: from this that is like, you know, Katie, there's a
Speaker 1: good scene where Kadie comes to as the celebration party
Speaker 1: they throw after like he breaks the all time you know.
Speaker 1: It opens with him breaking the all time three point
Speaker 1: shooting record, you know, halfway through his career, and then
Speaker 1: there's a party afterwards. Katie shows up and he's like,
Speaker 1: I thought you were this little white kid when I
Speaker 1: met you, like ten years ago.
Speaker 2: I walked into a gym and.
Speaker 1: There's this little wite kid, Like, but he's making threes
Speaker 1: from half court at that point, So like, I really
Speaker 1: think that there is a like it's not it's like
Speaker 1: having touch from sixty feet is like a weird thing
Speaker 1: that we're just like, man, he must have practiced that
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: But it does feel like that is something that we don't.
Speaker 1: Necessarily think about as like a inherent ability, but it
Speaker 1: is like something that he has and has had, like
Speaker 1: from early on.
Speaker 4: He's got to have like he's got to have like
Speaker 4: the most elite depth perception, true and coordination. That's and
Speaker 4: that's that people don't talk about that, and I coordination
Speaker 4: is a big one. You can be an elite, ask
Speaker 4: ye have that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well that one workout that they showed, you know,
Speaker 5: right before the shooting, where he's doing like the two
Speaker 5: tennis balls, he's catching it, he's crossing over catching the
Speaker 5: tennis ball, throwing it with the other hand, all of
Speaker 5: that type of stuff where while I get it, like
Speaker 5: there are people that can do that, he's doing it.
Speaker 6: He's doing it with such ease. It it makes sense
Speaker 6: that he can do these things.
Speaker 4: And those are the those are the skills that I think,
Speaker 4: you know, your average fan doesn't notice. Right, It's the
Speaker 4: same thing with Lebron. It's like you look at Lebron,
Speaker 4: you see this elite athlete. You know, the quickness, the
Speaker 4: jump thing, the strength, but it's the mental process. Like
Speaker 4: everyone who's ever played with Lebron, it's like the guy
Speaker 4: just sees the game differently. I think Steph is Steph is.
Speaker 4: It's it's one thing to be able to stretch the
Speaker 4: floor like that, it's another to be able to say, Okay,
Speaker 4: guys have to guard me at half court. So here's
Speaker 4: what that does to the defense. So I'm thinking two
Speaker 4: steps ahead, I'm gonna whip it to Draymond and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna cut and I'm gonna come out the other side
Speaker 4: because there's so spaced out, I'm gonna get a shot
Speaker 4: on this way, like he sees the game and that
Speaker 4: Lebron level. I'm a couple of steps ahead of all
Speaker 4: of you, and I'm aware of what me being on
Speaker 4: the floor does I know how to use it? And
Speaker 4: that's like that's like the next step, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's cool. Uh Like basically no notes for
Speaker 1: this documentary, though, I think people should go check it out.
Speaker 1: Actually if you're a Steph skeptic or.
Speaker 4: Even another example, if you'll indulge me with another example,
Speaker 4: it's like when Shaq added passing. It's like once Shack
Speaker 4: became aware every time I touched the ball, three guys
Speaker 4: are going to come running at me, and Shaq started
Speaker 4: being able to hit those no look passes that you know.
Speaker 4: Our vetus was like that, like it's just like a
Speaker 4: different obviously now, but it's like being aware of your
Speaker 4: impact on the defense and then what to do about that,
Speaker 4: I think is a different evolution. Yes, I agree, this
Speaker 4: documentary is unreal so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of things that people should go watch. On
Speaker 1: August seventeenth, there's there's this special coming out on YouTube
Speaker 1: called Don't You Know Who I Am? And this isn't
Speaker 1: me letting you go. This is me making up for
Speaker 1: the fact that I forgot to mention this up top.
Speaker 1: You have a special coming out and you talk Coop Center.
Speaker 1: Is this correct, Kenny?
Speaker 4: I do, yes, Yes. So I grew up playing I
Speaker 4: played AAU as a kid. I played, I started on
Speaker 4: my varsity team in high school, and then I played
Speaker 4: two years in college as a walk on.
Speaker 3: That's how you become a comedian, which I say is special.
Speaker 4: But I opened the special, I tell a story about
Speaker 4: the time I had to guard Tyler Hansbrow one on
Speaker 4: one in a high school active and uh, and it
Speaker 4: went about as well as you would think. And uh,
Speaker 4: and I kind of trace back me starting comedy to
Speaker 4: that moment, yeah, and realizing that I an't like those
Speaker 4: guys and uh, and so you and I. There's like
Speaker 4: two actual basketball stories out of the book. D of
Speaker 4: the special in the middle is kind of me talking
Speaker 4: about the uh, post athletic drop off that a lot
Speaker 4: of athletes feel and experience. And I felt like was
Speaker 4: something that needed to be talked about. You know, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of like, you know, you have this thing
Speaker 4: and it's all your energy, all your focus. It gives
Speaker 4: you all these dopamine hits, and then that's just taken
Speaker 4: away one day, and no one prepares you for life after.
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of guys get in a
Speaker 4: lot of trouble, uh, drugs, alcohol, those things become really
Speaker 4: kind of fill that void.
Speaker 3: And I started talking. I started telling these jokes, and
Speaker 3: I really felt like I was striking.
Speaker 4: A nerve because a number of people that were coming
Speaker 4: up to me after the show being like, Dude, my cousin,
Speaker 4: my brother, and my sister that you know that, yeah,
Speaker 4: no one.
Speaker 3: I can't believe no one's talked about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I've lost a couple buddies and
Speaker 4: to drugs, and when you talk to people afterwards, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I just don't think he ever moved on.
Speaker 3: You never found that next thing. So the special is
Speaker 3: kind of about.
Speaker 4: Like putting it to bed and finding your next love
Speaker 4: and finding a place to put that energy is basically
Speaker 4: what it is.
Speaker 2: So that sounds cool, man, that sounds awesome. Everybody should
Speaker 2: go check it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I needed to check it out because
Speaker 1: I mean, I, okay, I'll be honest. After my high
Speaker 1: school career, I was just in a better mood because
Speaker 1: I was like getting dunked on by Dan ged Zurich less,
Speaker 1: So I don't identify at all. That was That was
Speaker 1: my psychot encounter was I was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: going to body up Dan good Zurich and I got bodied.
Speaker 5: In fair and see you guys, Dan Gadsey reach if
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken as a legit seven footer and Tyler
Speaker 5: six eight year old, that's exactly that.
Speaker 6: But those were those are some pretty rough, rough matchups. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I said this in the story and it's true.
Speaker 4: So the point where I wonder if my coach got
Speaker 4: paid off because Roy Williams was there watching the dad
Speaker 4: and I swear to god, my coach said he made
Speaker 4: me guard him one on one and he was like,
Speaker 4: no help, they have shooters on the perimeter. And I
Speaker 4: was like, so I literally got put on an island
Speaker 4: in front of Roy Williams and I was like, wow,
Speaker 4: just serving me up, like a yeah.
Speaker 2: All right, I guess I'm not playing for you NC.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Yeah, thanks coach.
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, Dan Gadzurich, that's a good one, man,
Speaker 4: those are my favorite stories. I love when I find
Speaker 4: out people who like, who's the best guy to dunked
Speaker 4: on you? Because there's always one, There's always one really
Speaker 4: bad one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just kept getting getting up.
Speaker 1: I was I was thinking of the movie Rocky instead
Speaker 1: of like Hoop Dreams. I was just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: at the end of this, I'm gonna be stronger, and
Speaker 1: instead my teammates just couldn't make eye contact with me
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season.
Speaker 5: If it makes you, guys feel better, you guys got
Speaker 5: dunked on by NBA players. I've been dunked on by
Speaker 5: you know, guys have been overseas and you know I've
Speaker 5: been by everyone. Man.
Speaker 4: It feels just the same clear, I've been dunked on
Speaker 4: by just the nicest dude at the Why yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, been dunked on by I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I've never dunked before.
Speaker 2: That was wild.
Speaker 6: At the end of White k he finally catches it.
Speaker 6: It's you.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take a quick break, and Kenny,
Speaker 1: when we come back, we are going to enter the
Speaker 1: danger zone, the fastest segment in podcasting.
Speaker 2: Hold on to your butts.
Speaker 1: Hold on to your hats if you're wearing them, because
Speaker 1: they're gonna be spinning around, both your butt and your hat.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we are back and all Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny.
Speaker 6: I don't think he's ready.
Speaker 2: You've really stepped in at this time. Friend. This is
Speaker 2: the rapid fire segment.
Speaker 1: This is where Jabari and I are just fireing questions
Speaker 1: at you, like so many tennis balls and basketballs and
Speaker 1: Stepf's workout drill and you've just got to juggle them.
Speaker 1: And the other thing we're gonna be doing is like
Speaker 1: being really bad at keeping this moving. And that is
Speaker 1: not a design flaw. That is because I'm bad at
Speaker 1: keeping things moving as a podcaster. So you're just gonna
Speaker 1: have to keep us on track and the segment starts
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Brian, could you start the clock please?
Speaker 6: Wait wait wait wait, I don't don't. I don't think
Speaker 6: he's gonna hear you. I don't think he's gonna hear
Speaker 6: what you say? It like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is all the way across the room, you know,
Speaker 2: want to you, Brian? Wow? All right, all right, Kenny.
Speaker 1: We're asking each guest which young player will have a
Speaker 1: breakout season in twenty twenty three twenty four, as we
Speaker 1: saw with Steph. You know, sometimes that means this is
Speaker 1: suddenly their team's year. Some of the guys that have
Speaker 1: been tossed around time Maxie, I've been noticing a lot
Speaker 1: of people dropping the wreaths just time, Maxie. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: gonna turn things around for the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham, al Shan Goon, Austin Reeves.
Speaker 2: Is it too early to say? Webbing Yama? Probably Scoot?
Speaker 2: Who Who do we think?
Speaker 1: Who do you think is gonna have a season where
Speaker 1: all of a sudden this is the only person anybody
Speaker 1: can talk about.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Jalen Green. I like what the
Speaker 4: Rockets did a lot of wow. But I think I
Speaker 4: think giving him Fred Van Vliet to take a lot
Speaker 4: of the pressure because his issue has.
Speaker 3: Been efficiency in turnovers.
Speaker 4: But otherwise he's already scoring in the twenties and I
Speaker 4: think Van Vliet helps him. I know Dylan Brooks is
Speaker 4: a knucklehead, but he's also a second team All NBA
Speaker 4: player yep. And you know, people kind of right off
Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks, I get it. But you know another great
Speaker 4: defender that was a total knucklehead and then found new
Speaker 4: life with a new team, Metal world Piece maybe ye.
Speaker 4: So sometimes the change of scenery helps guys like that.
Speaker 4: And I think the attitude that makes Dylan Brooks a
Speaker 4: knucklehead is why he's a great defender.
Speaker 3: I also like Kevin Porter Junior off the bench.
Speaker 4: So now the Rockets suddenly like you kind of got
Speaker 4: better positions with Van Vleet because you slide him to
Speaker 4: sixth man, where I think you just let him cook
Speaker 4: off the bench, and the Rockets are so bad. People
Speaker 4: don't realize Kevin Porter Junior average twenty five and five
Speaker 4: last year. I know that because of Fantasy basketball, Like
Speaker 4: that's the player. Then you got you got Tarry Easton
Speaker 4: now coming off the bench, who I love. Jabarie Smith
Speaker 4: was the star of Summer League, which I know is
Speaker 4: just Summer League, but he's got potential to be an
Speaker 4: All NBA defender. So you got Damn Fleets a good defender,
Speaker 4: Brooks was a good defender. Smith's was a good defender,
Speaker 4: and Shangoon Jalen Green finally has a team around him,
Speaker 4: and the talent is undeniable. The guy's unreal. And I
Speaker 4: think the Rockets are going to surprise people, and I
Speaker 4: think they're going to make the Playing Game Playing Tournament.
Speaker 3: I think Jayalen Green is going to be a big
Speaker 3: reason why.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Jabari and I were at Summer League and I remember
Speaker 1: he turned to me and he said, is Jabari Smith
Speaker 1: junior even out there?
Speaker 2: This guy stinks?
Speaker 1: And then he put thirty points hung thirty on Jabari's head.
Speaker 1: And that is not a story that I just changed
Speaker 1: from being about me to being about Jabari.
Speaker 2: That that Actually here's the other thing too.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I said that I said this guy that you.
Speaker 3: Crime.
Speaker 2: It was melmost like you've done this.
Speaker 6: That's where I was going with it.
Speaker 5: I was not slandering, but no, I was right there
Speaker 5: with Jack saying like, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 5: he hit four threes in a row and said, shut
Speaker 5: up to both of us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, from way up top.
Speaker 2: We were screaming it from the rafters.
Speaker 6: But I don't know if you heard this instruction at
Speaker 6: the top.
Speaker 5: You're supposed to keep us going, so like, if we
Speaker 5: start to deviate or we start to talk about some
Speaker 5: other stuff, you have to snap us back in the line.
Speaker 6: And if okay, well excuse me. So Also Jack.
Speaker 5: Mentioned earlier that we're going to be firing you know,
Speaker 5: you know, questions at you. I'm more of the pea
Speaker 5: shooter from Harlem Knights. I'm that third guy with just
Speaker 5: a little pop pop, so here you go.
Speaker 2: And I'm more of a pew pew pew there it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what so.
Speaker 5: Would you make if you If if you were all.
Speaker 2: Right, I was going to be his answer, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have even asked the damn question.
Speaker 6: And okay, all.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, if you can have any player skill set
Speaker 5: for a date, who's and what skill set would it be?
Speaker 3: I would want to know what it's like to dunk
Speaker 3: like Zach Levine.
Speaker 4: Oh, I want to know what that feels like, I mean,
Speaker 4: I used to be able to dunk a little bit,
Speaker 4: and that even that I still dream about it. I
Speaker 4: still dream that I'm flying through the air, which I
Speaker 4: wasn't even flying through the air, because you know what
Speaker 4: it is to float like that.
Speaker 3: Come on, let me, let me, let me have it
Speaker 3: one time.
Speaker 6: Who are you dunking on? Nobody ever asked this, That's
Speaker 6: what I want to know. Who you're dunking on?
Speaker 3: And I'm dunking on I'm dunking on Rudy Gobert and
Speaker 3: saying that's for COVID.
Speaker 6: Wow, that's what I'm saying, So jack on my shoulders.
Speaker 1: That would be fun to dunk on people on people's
Speaker 1: shoulders and just have them explode apart, like powerful dunk.
Speaker 3: I'm dunking on you, Miles and Jabbari in a trench coat.
Speaker 6: There it is, there it is.
Speaker 1: I definitely have a new answer to this question now
Speaker 1: that I've watched Underrated, because I feel like like there
Speaker 1: are parts in that documentary where they cut together so
Speaker 1: many like mistakes and like turnovers and missshots that you like,
Speaker 1: forget what you've watched up to that point. You're like,
Speaker 1: does this guy stink? Is just Steph Curry. Did I
Speaker 1: make up the past five years where he's like one
Speaker 1: of the best players in the league.
Speaker 2: I think he's holding back on us.
Speaker 1: Like I think if I was Steph Curry for a day,
Speaker 1: I would just try some things out, like throw a
Speaker 1: football into like I feel like he would be the
Speaker 1: king of dude perfect shots, timely ref that all the
Speaker 1: kids are.
Speaker 2: Still talking about.
Speaker 1: But I feel like he could threat like thread an
Speaker 1: actual needle with thread from like a football field away.
Speaker 1: Like he's just not revealing that he has a literal
Speaker 1: superpower because he doesn't want us to know. Anyways, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to keep me on.
Speaker 4: Trash more quiet, all right, come on, hit me.
Speaker 1: You can take two players from all of history to
Speaker 1: create your Mad Boosti's edition NBA Jam team, which should
Speaker 1: be coming. I mean the league has heard this segment.
Speaker 1: I gotta think that's coming pretty soon. But which two
Speaker 1: players are you taking?
Speaker 3: Steph Curry and Shaquille O Neil.
Speaker 1: It's the correct the correct answer. Yes, I've said this before.
Speaker 1: It's that that's the right answer. I'm sorry, folks, that's
Speaker 1: the answer.
Speaker 6: That's fair. That's fair. Let's keep this going a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go, come on, come on, Ultimate.
Speaker 6: Peak, Prime t MAC or prime Paul George.
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm gonna say t MAC because I don't feel
Speaker 4: like people are as disappointed at him as there Paul George.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of questions with Paul George. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of like does he have it? I never heard
Speaker 4: anyone suggest that t MAC disappears in the playoffs. I'll
Speaker 4: say that I never heard that brought up and so.
Speaker 3: Managing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the second round said it about t MAC. But
Speaker 6: that's not the right there.
Speaker 4: That's a good point. Maybe we just didn't expect it
Speaker 4: from t MAC. Maybe the expectations were lower.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's that thing with like twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen and that's when the spicy takes come in the documentary.
Speaker 1: It's like, all of a sudden you have people being
Speaker 1: like Steph Curry is bad at basketball. I think like
Speaker 1: it's harder to be a player, or maybe easier because
Speaker 1: you get so much more motivational material.
Speaker 4: But you know what, I will say this hold on.
Speaker 4: I had to think about it first second. That was
Speaker 4: a rapid fire. Paul George is also in his peak,
Speaker 4: he was like a true two way player, and I
Speaker 4: don't remember t mac ever being known for his defense.
Speaker 3: So Paul George final.
Speaker 6: Answer there it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's the right answer.
Speaker 1: We recently, speaking of Steph, we recently got his all
Speaker 1: time top five. It was Magic Johnson at point guard,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan at shooting guard, Larry Bird at small forward.
Speaker 1: But then he revised that because he has been on
Speaker 1: the internet to Kobe Bryant at small forward, Tim Duncan
Speaker 1: and power forward, and a Shaquille O'Neal at center. Uh,
Speaker 1: are you making any revisions to that starting five?
Speaker 4: Someone's got to be able to shoot a three? I mean,
Speaker 4: what are we just going to clog the lane? Come on,
Speaker 4: give me, give me Larry. We were We're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know we respect for Kobe, but you got to
Speaker 4: have somebody stretching the floor, bro.
Speaker 6: Come on, yeah, especially in today's game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael and Kobe are redundant.
Speaker 4: You just put the same You put Michael Jordan and
Speaker 4: then a Michael Jordan cover band on the same floor.
Speaker 1: Maybe you haven't been on the internet. Mentioned he listened.
Speaker 3: He was unbelievable at it, and I don't blame him.
Speaker 4: Of course, you want to be like I wanted to
Speaker 4: do but you know I need someone to shoot a
Speaker 4: three jack.
Speaker 2: Do you have a fun I would put Steph out there?
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 2: I think I put Steph out.
Speaker 1: There, uh at two, put m J at three, or
Speaker 1: you know, put Steph at one, put MJ at two.
Speaker 1: Uh and yeah, maybe Steph Steph at one, m J two,
Speaker 1: Lebron at three.
Speaker 2: The Lebron Lebron needs to be out there.
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, just respect to magic. But there's your point forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's gonna help.
Speaker 3: We're good play making. Yeah, we're solid.
Speaker 2: And I might go dream at center.
Speaker 3: I like it. Yeah, yeah, man.
Speaker 4: And just which Tim Duncan just came up. I'm so
Speaker 4: excited that Wendy went to San Antonio and Tim Duncan
Speaker 4: is on the staff. Is just going to teach Wendy
Speaker 4: to be seven to Tim Duncan.
Speaker 3: And you can already shoot. It's preposterous. What's about to happen.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be so fun.
Speaker 6: Last question, sure is the most important one? Himmy Jack?
Speaker 6: Where JABORI?
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, so I know a little bit. All right,
Speaker 4: what you played Jabar? You're five to ten. You're a
Speaker 4: point guard.
Speaker 6: I was a five teen point power forward.
Speaker 4: Okay, So you're like a five ten Draymond, You're gonna
Speaker 4: give you think basically check what are you bringing at
Speaker 4: the table?
Speaker 1: I was like a six to one Draymond couldn't shoot
Speaker 1: worth Ship, but would defend and let Dan Gedzerig dunk
Speaker 1: on me until he was exhausted. I was like ropidoping him.
Speaker 1: I was like, surely he's gonna get tired of dunking
Speaker 1: on me. That's not in no way an energizing thing.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, maybe if I go fetal position, he'll feel
Speaker 3: bad for me.
Speaker 2: Have I sold myself?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah? The jumper smooth, My jumpers nice.
Speaker 6: That's one thing I can tell you. That's one thing
Speaker 6: I can think.
Speaker 3: I'm taking.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about shooting on this team?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 1: You don't want my wreaky ass jumper and but but
Speaker 1: I play defense and I always make the right pass.
Speaker 4: Even if you can't shoot. I want guys on my
Speaker 4: team that say they can shoot. I want delusional confidence, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I want I want I want you coming in going
Speaker 4: for ten and being like, yo, pass me to ball,
Speaker 4: I'm hit me.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to go over over nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got get searched for.
Speaker 6: I want them right there.
Speaker 1: My free throw like routine before what I would shrug
Speaker 1: my shoulders and be like, I'm not getting even make it. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I did that before every free throw that was That
Speaker 1: was just.
Speaker 6: I actually believe that you did that. That's funny.
Speaker 2: What's the fucking point? Oh sorry?
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, Kenny DeForrest Uh truly a pleasure. We've been
Speaker 1: excited to have you on Boosties for a long time
Speaker 1: and you did not disappoint sir. We'll have to have
Speaker 1: you back on again soon. Where can people see you? Uh,
Speaker 1: find you, follow you all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: So I'm on I'm on Instagram. I prefer Instagram.
Speaker 4: I just feel like if you're trying to follow an artist,
Speaker 4: it's kind of the most like you're actually going to
Speaker 4: see me promoting my shows. I do have a TikTok
Speaker 4: I pust a lot of videos there. The special comes
Speaker 4: out the seventeenth of August, and I'm going to do
Speaker 4: a lot stream on YouTube, like a live release on
Speaker 4: YouTube where you can watch it with me and comment,
Speaker 4: ask questions, and I'll be on I'll be answering those.
Speaker 4: So that pink is not quite live yet, but once
Speaker 4: it is, the best way to see that will be
Speaker 4: on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I might be back on Twitter one day, we'll see.
Speaker 4: But for now, I'm just trying to focus my efforts
Speaker 4: on those couple so that I can still have some
Speaker 4: energy to like write jokes and stuff just on the
Speaker 4: on my phone all day.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what your problem is with Twitter.
Speaker 1: We love it here at mad Boosti's.
Speaker 2: Just killing it, literally destroying, literally destroying it. All right.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
Speaker 1: and on threads where I am. I'm not very active
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I'm even less active on threads, but I
Speaker 1: am there at Jack Underscore, Oh Underscore, Bryan Jabari, where
Speaker 1: can people find you?
Speaker 6: You could find me, of course on the Twitter Jabori
Speaker 6: Davis NBA.
Speaker 5: You can find Miles of course at at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not sure about his grades.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's there in both places here. We are all right.
Speaker 2: That is going to do it for this episode of
Speaker 2: Mad Boosties.
Speaker 1: We are back next week to talk more NBA, and
Speaker 1: we will talk to all then bye, goodbye,