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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged.

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Speaker 2: A wise man once said a violence is never the answer,

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Speaker 2: but sometimes it is. That wise man was me, and

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Speaker 2: that shit cost me about thirty thousand dollars. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: hot topic right now is Joel Embiid and Marcus Hayes's

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Speaker 2: incident in Philly where the reporter mentioned his dead brother

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Speaker 2: and newborn son, and obviously and B took offense to it.

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Speaker 2: There was an altercation. I guess some pushing happened. The

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Speaker 2: NBA just suspended embid for three days, and I think

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Speaker 2: the Sixers actually issued an apology on I guess Joelle's behalf.

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Speaker 2: Criticism is something all athletes have to deal with, particularly

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Speaker 2: star athletes, MVPs, leaders of teams, guys that are making

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Speaker 2: max and I think players are fine with the criticism

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Speaker 2: because I think it comes with the territory. Where they

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Speaker 2: cross the line is when you start bringing people's families

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Speaker 2: into it and think that that shit is going to

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Speaker 2: be okay. He's lucky it wasn't more. I've been saying

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Speaker 2: for a while that the line has been blurred or

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Speaker 2: erased with the disrespect that the media has towards the players.

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Speaker 2: It's less journalism these days and more, just hot takes,

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Speaker 2: what can go viral? What can I say, We're going

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Speaker 2: to be the loudest and most disrespectful thing I can

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Speaker 2: say to a player, and people hit the like button.

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Speaker 2: This is not just with medium players. It's also been

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Speaker 2: with fans and players the last couple of years. Fans

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Speaker 2: across the line by throwing things, thinking they can say whatever,

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Speaker 2: getting in people's faces and acting like because we make

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Speaker 2: money or because we're professional athletes, we're not supposed to

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Speaker 2: react or have feelings. And I think the NBA needs

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Speaker 2: to do a better job. I think that they do

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Speaker 2: a great job in a lot of other areas, but

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Speaker 2: I think this is one area that they're struggling. And

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Speaker 2: they protect everybody but the product. You look at all

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Speaker 2: the incidents with the fans and what's going on, and

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Speaker 2: it's always the players that are being suspended or fined.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's some repercussions for the fans, but

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Speaker 2: I feel like the NBA goes out of its way

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Speaker 2: to protect the fans and protect the media, but not

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Speaker 2: protect the players. Why is Marcus Hayes not suspended?

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Speaker 1: Why is.

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Speaker 2: Why is he not fined? And this is not his

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Speaker 2: first trip down this lane. He's been known for doing

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Speaker 2: a lot of coonery in this space for a while.

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Speaker 2: Someone who personally hasn't been debta against Joel Embiid, someone

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Speaker 2: who comes around practices and the players try to avoid

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Speaker 2: him as much as possible. He's always trying to do

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Speaker 2: or say something to bring attention to him because he's

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Speaker 2: just not very good at what he does. I think

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's not okay to

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Speaker 2: disrespect players. It's not definitely not okay to disrespect their families.

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Speaker 2: I think we all sign up knowing that a lot

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Speaker 2: of criticism is going to come with this job. And

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Speaker 2: you can criticize us for our poor play, our leadership,

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Speaker 2: how bad our teams are, whatever you feel like you

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Speaker 2: need to criticize over, that's okay. But you cross the

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Speaker 2: line when you talk about someone's family. And I'll say this, thankfully,

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Speaker 2: it was just a push, But who knows what the

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Speaker 2: next time. What's going to happen next time when something

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Speaker 2: like this happens. So I feel like something needs to

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Speaker 2: be done. So this is just my point of view. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: as a former player that's transitioned into the media space,

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Speaker 2: I'm always going to have a player's back, but I'm

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Speaker 2: also going to tell them when they're wrong. Critiquing is

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Speaker 2: a tough part of.

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Speaker 1: The job, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We are as media members now our job is to

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Speaker 2: critique what we see. And again, like I said, I

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Speaker 2: think critiquing is fine when we're talking about the game,

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Speaker 2: but anything outside, particularly pertaining with family, is not okay.

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Speaker 2: So the further this discussion, I'm gonna bring in my brother,

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Speaker 2: the one and only Van Lathan to talk a little

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Speaker 2: media and some other stuff. This embiid thing is cooking up.

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Speaker 2: I think the lines have been blurred between media and players,

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Speaker 2: fans and players. What are your thoughts about what you're

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Speaker 2: kind of seeing in this situation, in particular where he's

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Speaker 2: talking about a dead brother and a son.

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Speaker 3: So it's good that Joelle and Bid did what he did.

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Speaker 3: It's not a good It's not ever good to like,

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Speaker 3: we don't ever want to encourage, particularly black men to

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Speaker 3: use violence as a meed as a means of conflict resolution.

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Speaker 3: But I'm telling you why it's good. It's good because

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Speaker 3: it starts a conversation, or it furthers the conversations or

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Speaker 3: deepens the conversation, and the conversation is about whether or

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Speaker 3: not someone is a person or a thing. If Joel

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Speaker 3: Embiid is a person, then you know that what you

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Speaker 3: said and how you went to make your point about

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Speaker 3: his basketball play is completely out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I talked about I lost my father in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 3: and you know, you can make any point that you

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Speaker 3: need to make to me. You can say anything that

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Speaker 3: the most painful moments of my life to make that point.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: And so whereas we don't want to give anybody carte

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Speaker 3: blanche to say, hey, you said something that I hurt

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Speaker 3: my feelings, so now I'm gonna put hands on you,

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Speaker 3: what I think is important to say is that long

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Speaker 3: before he was a basketball player, Joel Embiid was a brother,

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Speaker 3: someone who loved his brother, someone who has memories and

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Speaker 3: a deep affection and connection to his brother. And bringing

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Speaker 3: that up so you can make a point about whether

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Speaker 3: or not somebody is available for a Tuesday night game

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Speaker 3: against Milwaukee's just wild.

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Speaker 2: This is obviously an interesting topic because it's been debated

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Speaker 2: and dwelled on over the last two and a half

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Speaker 2: three weeks. I think since he mentioned he wasn't playing

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Speaker 2: gonna play, it wasn't gonna play. I personally thought that's

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Speaker 2: where he kind of opened the floodgates. When you come

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Speaker 2: out and say, hey, I'm not playing in back to backs,

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Speaker 2: you're opening yourself up for more criticism and critique. At

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Speaker 2: the same time, it shouldn't open you up for personal attacks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Look, let's say that Joel and be

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Speaker 3: the soft. Let's say that any basketball player is soft.

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Speaker 3: I'm not calling him soft, Let's say that he is.

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Speaker 3: Let's say that somebody is soft on the basketball court.

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Speaker 3: They don't play the game hard, they don't close out,

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Speaker 3: they don't fake the ball and people face. Let's say that.

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Speaker 3: Let's say that. Let's say that somebody is soft, Okay,

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Speaker 3: on the basketball court. Is that same person not going

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Speaker 3: to defend their family if somebody runs into their house?

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Speaker 1: No, it's different.

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Speaker 3: Is that same person gonna let you rap his girl's

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Speaker 3: ass on the street? So when you say soft, what

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Speaker 3: are you talking about? Context matters? Soft basketball player, that

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Speaker 3: leader on the basketball court. When you say this person

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Speaker 3: cannot lead their family. Does this mean this person isn't

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Speaker 3: a leader in their community. When you use these terms

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Speaker 3: that are all encompassing to describe somebody's basketball game, you're

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Speaker 3: saying a lot more about them than what you might

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Speaker 3: even think that you're saying. So when you're talking to

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Speaker 3: him and writing that little piece, you're saying he's disrespecting

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Speaker 3: his dead brother by missing a basketball game, you out

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Speaker 3: your fucking mind.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have at that if you gonna if you're

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Speaker 3: gonna drop your nuts to that degree, you can't be

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Speaker 3: mad when somebody get you know what I'm saying, So

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Speaker 3: and so to me, what I'm saying is it's all gravy.

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Speaker 3: I get it. The game lends itself to criticism. We

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Speaker 3: pore over this stuff, But man, bruh, have a little

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Speaker 3: cool think about what you're talking about it and who

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Speaker 3: you talking to.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'll close it up with saying

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think obviously there needs to be a

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Speaker 2: deeper conversation about lines and boundaries in sports. Media is

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Speaker 2: kind of shifted over the last handful of years. But

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Speaker 2: DeMarcus Hayes, I mean, you have a track record of bullshit.

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Speaker 2: This was another bullshit move.

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Speaker 1: You pulled.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully it stops here.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you're not running to do no kind of lawsuit

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Speaker 2: or any kind of funny business. And I also think

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Speaker 2: the league really needs to take a look into protecting

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Speaker 2: its players. Absolutely protect the asset, because there wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: no other bullshit if it wasn't for the asset. There

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be no fans, there wouldn't be no media if

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Speaker 2: it wasn't for the asset.

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Speaker 5: So protect the asset. Then the day after.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, November sixth, twenty twenty four, by the way,

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Speaker 2: congratulate or happy birthday to my sons as Theay and Carter.

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Speaker 5: They're sixteen today. I can't believe I have sixteen year olds.

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Speaker 2: Man, Yes, I love you, But you know, we just

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Speaker 2: witnessed probably the craziest presidential run.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully we'll ever see.

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Speaker 2: I hope we don't have to see no more bullshit

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Speaker 2: like this type of just how it's taken over everything.

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Speaker 2: You posed a great question yesterday and we really didn't

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Speaker 2: debate it. Excuse me, might have been this morning. What

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Speaker 2: do we learn from this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, much more thing.

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Speaker 1: What do we learn from this?

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Speaker 3: Oh we don't know yet. Well that's not true.

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Speaker 1: We do know.

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Speaker 3: This is what we learned, and it's a tough pill

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Speaker 3: to swallow. America is magan, America is maggan. It's a

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Speaker 3: clear mandate that was given. The question now is why

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Speaker 3: what messages didn't land, What attempts, what speeches, what policy

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Speaker 3: didn't resonate? Like why why did people vote to deport

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Speaker 3: Why did people vote to suppress their neighbors. Why did

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Speaker 3: people vote for the legacy of their slavers? Why why

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Speaker 3: did they do that? Because as much as we can

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Speaker 3: be angry about it, we have to figure out the

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Speaker 3: calculus that allows us to stem the tide. I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what won't get there, well, won't get us there?

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Speaker 5: Tears you cry, man, cry, get it out, cry now.

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Speaker 3: I wrote, Yeah, I wrote something earlier. Just real quick,

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Speaker 3: I tell you about once again. My dad. I had

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Speaker 3: like the little tenspeed bike. Ten speed bike had the

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Speaker 3: sometimes the fucking the break break comes off the bike.

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Speaker 3: The break was dangling, hit the front spokes. I flipped

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Speaker 3: over the front of the bike. Bust my shit. My

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Speaker 3: blood's everywhere, and I'm like, oh my god, don't worry

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Speaker 3: about the blood. He's like, blood is a blessing unless

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Speaker 3: you know that you're hurt. Sometimes you don't know your hurt. Heart, disease, diabetes,

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Speaker 3: all these things. You don't know that you're hurt. But

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Speaker 3: you can see yourself bleeding. Now it's your responsibility to heal.

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Speaker 3: It's your responsibility to get better. It's your responsibility to

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Speaker 3: do the thing. It's also your responsibility to fix your

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Speaker 3: fucking bike. So all of that stuff, so you don't

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Speaker 3: flip over the handlebars again, get up, get to it,

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Speaker 3: take your time. I'm not going to dehumanize you. Do

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Speaker 3: your whole thing. But you went to bed, dry your sheets,

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Speaker 3: wash them. Let's get the fuck back to work. Midterms

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Speaker 3: in two years, and you have to be a force

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Speaker 3: to change the electorate in a way that reflects your values.

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Speaker 3: If we can't do that, if we spend too much

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Speaker 3: time crying, we're going to spend more time dying. So

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Speaker 3: let's get to.

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Speaker 5: Band before we get get you out of here. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: little Wayne Wheezy fest Uh spoke to his hometown about

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Speaker 2: Talk talk to me about this, so can you?

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Speaker 3: Will So? Wayne is a goat, no question. Like I

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Speaker 3: Was not given to Wayne to be taken away from Wayne? Okay,

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Speaker 3: I've never met anyone who looked at the world quite

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Speaker 3: you up, you made it. Maybe you're not entitled to

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Speaker 3: But anyway, love the Hot Boys. Was so excited to

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Speaker 2: Kind of put him up in that stratosphere where I've

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Speaker 3: Look sad and I don't disagree. If it was me

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Speaker 1: We love you, We always gonna love you.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on and let's do something else. Bro, last thing,

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Speaker 3: last thing, Let's do something else. Can we stop bending

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Speaker 3: halftime show at the super Bowl? You're in front of

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Speaker 3: your people. They love you. Take the NAACP Image Award.

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Speaker 3: Love that love it as much as the Oscar Love

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Speaker 3: I don't fuck with it. That's how I feel about

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Man, make sure you come back with check in with you, man,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you later, no problem. Brod so

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Speaker 1: How you feeling, bro? Dodgers are world champions? Yes?

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Speaker 6: And you know what we went through to get that.

435
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 6: You've been down with for a minute. We've been had

436
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 6: our heart broken a long time, baby, like a decade, so.

437
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: Enjoyed.

438
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: This decade is not that long compared to what some

439
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 2: other teams have gone through.

440
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: You guys just wanted the World Series. A couple of

441
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: years ago, right.

442
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 6: But it was kind of a world series, sort of

443
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 6: kind of like the Lakers. Yeah, as yes, absolutely in

444
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 6: this county is still a ring though, right it is.

445
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: But we didn't get a parade. We didn't even get

446
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: a check e cheese party for it. You know what

447
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

448
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 5: Nothing y'all deserve more.

449
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 1: Absolutely so.

450
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: They they people were falling, falling off of three story

451
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: buildings and blowing their hands off. They y'all celebrated absolutely

452
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: and burned the bus down.

453
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

454
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 6: We tore up a way more car, you know, the

455
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 6: self driving car. Did they graffiti on it? We wrote it,

456
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 6: surfed it and everything. Yes, you know how to go

457
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 6: West Coast? Yes, indeed ship was real. Yes, so so.

458
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts just recently said in an interview that he

459
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: felt like the Padres was like that was that was

460
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: y'all's world series. And you got San Diego and they

461
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: they they really kicked their ass all year, all year.

462
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 5: So what were you How were you feeling about.

463
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,959
Speaker 4: It from your I felt from my perspective, that was

464
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 4: the world Series. I felt that at that moment in

465
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 4: time when we started the postseason, they were one through

466
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 4: twenty six, the best team.

467
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 6: Yes, it is, and we have to see them moving

468
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 6: forward a lot.

469
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: They're young.

470
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 6: Absolutely, did we get lucky against them? No, we just

471
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 6: had their number.

472
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 5: Going into the situation. You sare y'all was going to lose.

473
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Should you do though, well, front.

474
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: Run yourself sabotaged because you know what's going to be

475
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: the outcome.

476
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, because you've seen what happened to us over

477
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 6: the years, you know, and the Padres are a team

478
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 6: we've been kind of chasing.

479
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: For a minute.

480
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 6: We had one of their players, Manny Machado, who became

481
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 6: a trader, moved to their team. Could you like a kidding?

482
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 6: And he was talking big cash he was against us.

483
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 6: So I'm happy, bro, I'm looking forward to next season.

484
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 6: You know, La fans, we think we're the general managers.

485
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: There may not be as many Dodger fans next season though,

486
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that one alone. I'm let you guys

487
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: make what you want of that, you know what I mean?

488
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 6: But true story. But uh, yeah, man, we think we're

489
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 6: general managers. You know, we have to look forward.

490
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: To what years?

491
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: I mean, So, doo, you saw the Yankee just offered

492
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 2: thirteen to five seventy five If so do some of

493
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: you think you guys can.

494
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 6: Grab Absolutely, we have money to spend lots, so six

495
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 6: hundred millions over like ten years. Yeah, and I believe

496
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 6: he's coming. I believe he loves Los Angeles, so who doesn't.

497
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 6: And look how the Yankees did him too dirty the

498
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 6: fifth inning?

499
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: Crazy?

500
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 6: Come on, man, he's go ahead. I was gonna say,

501
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 6: he's our number one priority in the off season.

502
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: Get him.

503
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 5: Will we see you tiny on the mound next year?

504
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 6: Absolutely? Thank god he didn't hurt his throwing shoulder. You know,

505
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 6: he hurt the other shoulder, and he was already clocking up,

506
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 6: you know, the high nineties, already coming back.

507
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: Do we need him to pitch? Yes? Next year? Absolutely,

508
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: we needed them in the World Series. Could he use them?

509
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 6: Absolutely, could have used him, but uh, he just had surgery.

510
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 6: Hopefully he's ready for the off season and you know,

511
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 6: hopefully next year.

512
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: Is our year again. Y'all grew on me. I'm not

513
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: gonna lie.

514
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: Movie has been a Barris Dodger excuse me, Giants and

515
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: A's fan. That's where I'm from. But you know, the Dodgers.

516
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: I like the team. We gotta get Mookie on the show.

517
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: We went and talked to him at that game.

518
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: So he said to bring him on the show Pod Pod.

519
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: We need you, baby.

520
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: Congratulated to the whole Dodger organization and fan base, l

521
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: A representing moving on, It's basketball season, bross falls starting

522
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: to get cold out here. Indeed, Lakers have lost three

523
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: out of four. Is it time to fire JJ?

524
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 6: I mean, just the last time we talked, I was

525
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 6: supposed to apologize to this.

526
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 5: You still should apologize. Yeah, how are you feeling right now?

527
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: In three?

528
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 5: How are you feeling right now?

529
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, It's weird. We're just coming off

530
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 6: the World Series. So I'm just starting to get my

531
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 6: eyes back on the Lakers. Like most you know, LA fans, what,

532
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 6: we don't know what to think at the moment. Do

533
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 6: we like do we like?

534
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: JJ? Yes? But once we start getting in.

535
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: That lost column kind of like doesn't.

536
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, we're getting that lost column and we're starting

537
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 6: to look elsewhere.

538
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: We want to look elsewhere? Have you seen?

539
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we're I mean, you guys are want to say,

540
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: in the bottom of the league in defense, Yes, you know,

541
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: obviously a little bit of older team guys that are

542
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: more offensive oriented than defense. Obviously you got the Vanderbilt

543
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: coming back. It's a strong Western conference with a lot

544
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: of scorers. I mean the Bookers, the d Rants, the Lucas.

545
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that put the ball in

546
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 2: the basket. Do you who do you feel on that

547
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: team can and hopefully will step up on the defensive end.

548
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 6: I'm sorry he said, did he say Brownie? Good Lord?

549
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 6: I pray man anyway. Don't get me hating on Brownie

550
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 6: right now. We'll say that for another time. But who

551
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 6: who do we depend on it? What's the question again? Who?

552
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: Who?

553
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: Who can step up and kind of ignite that defensive side?

554
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: Because I love JJ, but j J was an offensive player. Yeah,

555
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: but he tried on defense.

556
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 6: Yes he did. Who's gonna play defense? Who's going to

557
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 6: cover their best player on our team? Because it can't

558
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 6: be a forty year old, right, they can't. So and

559
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 6: Ad is where he.

560
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 5: Is gonna go, Biggs, He's going to protect the best.

561
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 6: So maybe we need to look elsewhere. Go out there,

562
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 6: you got some assets, absolutely would be perfect.

563
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: Get ther Dlo out of here, good lord, It.

564
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: Will save our city. I like you d Loo, but

565
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I like the Lakers more so.

566
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: Come on, now, what would you look for? With the DLO, Like,

567
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: what would you want in exchange?

568
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 5: What type of player?

569
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 6: For example, I would like a young, active player obviously

570
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 6: who can score and rebound and you know, do the

571
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 6: intangibles because we don't have any of those kind of

572
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 6: guys on our team.

573
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Do we know?

574
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 6: They're on the bench hurt right now, Vanderbilt, Like you said,

575
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 6: what kind of guy would we want coming here? I

576
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 6: don't want to start any rumors.

577
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead and start something, but I would love

578
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: to get like I would love to have like Julie,

579
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: it is random back now, Yeah, I think we lost

580
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: a lot of our players, you know what I mean

581
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: from back in it from you think him and a

582
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: d could play on the same Absolutely, what's ad gonna change?

583
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: Like, what is he gonna change from a player coming

584
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: back playing for us? Nothing? It's gonna put him at

585
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: the five? Is he a five? Though? No? Right right?

586
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Does he? Does he? Ever? Has he ever played five

587
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: and been successful with the five?

588
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 6: No?

589
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: He has not.

590
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it's any time. The panic is still

591
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: early in the season. Don't panic gets organic Laker fans.

592
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Let that ship marinate.

593
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be all right, Like I said, I like,

594
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: he's giving you guys an identity. I don't do't quite

595
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: know what that identity is yet, but he's giving you something.

596
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: You're starting to sweat over here, so I know it's

597
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: getting serious. But we're gonna play a new game with

598
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: you new.

599
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 5: Faces in new places.

600
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you about how mean how many guys

601
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: we got on the board, eight guys.

602
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: We're both gonna pick three, So.

603
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Giddy Tys Jones, Klay Thompson, Buddy Healed, uh Cat, Michel Bridges,

604
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: Julius Randall, DeMar DeRozan, Chris Paul, all guys new places

605
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: and putting up numbers.

606
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you the first pick. Who would you

607
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 5: take as top new face in the new place? It

608
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 5: has to be Clay, right like who is a cat?

609
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: Like? For me? I never really was the biggest cat fan.

610
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 5: We can say our piece. But so your first pick

611
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 5: is Clay Klay just.

612
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: Because of his how he's helping them on perimeter shooting.

613
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with DeMar DeRozan although they're three, he'said

614
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: twenty five, four and four, so it takes a lot

615
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: of pressure off Dearen to have to do everything to

616
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: close the games.

617
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Right right, I'm not sure, Chris Paul.

618
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: Don't start a double double twelve twelve in your twenty

619
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: twelve points ten rebounds or excuse me, tennisists or n

620
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: excuse me, Chris Paul, you're twenty twelve points nine assists,

621
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: And really I think it's gonna be very instrumental for

622
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: young fellow Wimby.

623
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: Yes, who just like pick go back. It's definitely Buddy.

624
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Oh good call. That was gonna be my second.

625
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's over there taking the pressure off of everybody.

626
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an elite shooter, very elite shooter. I'll tell

627
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: you one time, a quick story about my playing days.

628
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: When DeMarcus Cousins got traded to New Orleans, Lottie Debots

629
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: said that he was taking Buddy was pretty much mean.

630
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: There's other players in the trade, but those are the

631
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: two mains on each side. That Buddy Hill was a

632
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: next STEPH Curtin. Obviously he's not Steph. But if you

633
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: look at by the numbers, he's a fucking monster.

634
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: From behind that three point line, isn't He shot.

635
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: On ten attempts and averaging twenty two a game, Like

636
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: he said, to lose someone like Clay, which was tough

637
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: for everybody. I love Clay as a person and obviously

638
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: what he's done as a player is well documented. But

639
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: Buddy Healed has stepped up. Obviously he doesn't give you

640
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: what Clay used to give you on the defensive end,

641
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: but he's definitely someone.

642
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: So that's my second pick too. I believe they are

643
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: six and one two Golden State?

644
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: What are there? What's the record to say?

645
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: Six one? Yeah?

646
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: And Steph Yeah.

647
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously record hasn't been super tough, but just

648
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: to be able to get that chemistry down. They look

649
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: like they're having fun. Their younger players are coming along.

650
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to see. So we both got

651
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: Buddy Heels as our second pick. Last, but not least,

652
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: who's your last guy?

653
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 6: Mckel Bridges' man hooping good call, Yeah, I think even

654
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 6: though his jump shots kind of.

655
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 5: He's still shooting thirty nine from.

656
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 6: The three though, absolutely, but he's likely pulled it together.

657
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 6: Do I depend on him to keep that going for

658
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 6: the whole year?

659
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe? Yeah? Maybe? I like Cat. I like Cat.

660
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, I think, you know, he needs to

661
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: continue to keep his foot on the guest. But twenty

662
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: two and thirteen is right on average of his career averages,

663
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: and he's going to be instrumental if this Knicks team

664
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: is going to make a run along with Bridges.

665
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 6: So it's just really quick, damar. I think he's got

666
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 6: something to fight for now. Right after the little Drake tobacco,

667
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he wants to show him. That was crazy?

668
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: What was what was Drake doing make some music? Was

669
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: that too light skin of him to be doing that?

670
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. You tell me better than I don't

671
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: move that way.

672
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 5: Like if I'm gonna talk shit to you, I'm gonna

673
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: try to fight you.

674
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 6: That's true now, I'm not gonna know that that that

675
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 6: is all facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't be I

676
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 6: don't think I would fight you though.

677
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to fight you because I know if

678
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 2: I punch you that that beer dye with my hands

679
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: all over my knuckles.

680
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 5: So gin know where about what you said two or

681
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 5: three weeks.

682
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: About two and a half weeks in the season, Yes, sir,

683
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: about two and a half weeks in the season, and

684
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: and and and some teams. I don't know if it's

685
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: maybe too early to panic, but there's some teams that

686
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: just ain't really doing it right now. I think the

687
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: Bucks one and six don't control their first round pick

688
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 2: for the next six years. You know, who knows what

689
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: Middleton is is is going to be able to do

690
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: when he comes back. You know, you got Damon Giannis

691
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: and and and not much around it. Uh, you know,

692
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: obviously Bobby Port is out there doing this thing so

693
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: very interesting. And and Doc Rivers again we're having we're

694
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: on the dock? Is it is this doc's last doc?

695
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 6: Well, first, I'd like to say it's really showing how

696
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 6: Drew Holliday, Oh man, how important yea.

697
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: Man getting it. I think when Drew left, that whole

698
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: shit just went to.

699
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: Which is crazy because announced looking at you, you know,

700
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: Damian Willard Lillard one of the best players this game

701
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: has ever seen, most cloning, the most clutch guys. But

702
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: it really speaks to how talented Drew was on both

703
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: sides of the ball.

704
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 6: Absolutely, is this doc the in for Doc? It should

705
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 6: have been the end last time for that. It should

706
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 6: have been Sorry, Doc, but you know you kind of.

707
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: Come on, Doc.

708
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: Nuggets what are they three and four? I mean I

709
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: think it's still earl Fornceke's nugget A four and three,

710
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon goes down, Hobe gets back strong, Murray sixteen

711
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: points a game. We talked about this early, only shooting

712
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: thirty seven percent, He struggled.

713
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: Do they have a chance?

714
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: They absolutely do.

715
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 6: I mean the core of their team is still together,

716
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 6: Like their core is better than a lot of cores

717
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 6: on a lot of basketball teams.

718
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 1: And they're not the only team that's doing bad around

719
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of we're going Yes, it's.

720
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 6: Five total teams in the league that are playing well

721
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 6: right now, so everybody else kind of has defend for it.

722
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: Clippers, Yeah, three and four. Uh, Intendance isn't what it

723
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: they thought it would be. Kawhim not sure when he's

724
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: coming back.

725
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 5: They don't have control their first round pick for the

726
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 5: next five years.

727
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

728
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 5: I know you don't mind this.

729
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: No, because they got that nasty stench out of the crypto.

730
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: What you want it?

731
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 6: Yes, get out, But you know it is they gotta

732
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 6: make They got to make it up for themselves.

733
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: They got to make it for themselves.

734
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 6: You know that their owners spent billions of dollars open

735
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: the arena and trying to get away from the Lakers legacy,

736
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 6: which which I respect, but you know they are the Clippers.

737
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 6: Who is their best player right now? Because their best

738
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 6: player is not even playing right now?

739
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: James is their best players playing well? Yeah?

740
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and why is their best player set Their.

741
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: Best players are playing, So Kawhi is the best player, Yes,

742
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: the best player playing his James and then Zoobox having

743
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: a big year.

744
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I like what he big Fellow's been able to do.

745
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: Moving on the Miami Heat, Butler didn't a sign an extension.

746
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: He's thirty five three and three on the season. Don't

747
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: have much cap flexibility. Do you see Jimmy finishing the

748
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: season in Miami?

749
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 6: No, because the owner and him are kind of button

750
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 6: heads enough. Losing makes it all worse, you know what

751
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 6: I mean. Jimmy's trying to say that. You know, they're

752
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 6: not playing any defense right now, so you know, I'm

753
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 6: expecting Spoilster to pull all that together if he can,

754
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 6: and if not, they'll be back into the draft next year.

755
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: Cooper Flag my guy.

756
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: Nice debut. Looks like he might be hitting the Utah.

757
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: I mean it's still early, but Utah is at the

758
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel. I think they kind of saw

759
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: this coming. You know, they had another great white player

760
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: Gordon Haywood.

761
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: I think he just did he just retire? Was it

762
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 5: last year?

763
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: This year? This year?

764
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: Salute Gordon Hayward was cold, Bro, I don't think people

765
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: know how good prime Gordon Haywood was.

766
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: He was a month before his injury.

767
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: And I think Cooper Flag can be better than that.

768
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, just because he got a little bit more fire

769
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: in his battle thing. Yeah.

770
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, six ten shoot off the dribble going to Donk.

771
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: I just saw yesterday, like yesterday, Jesus do I think

772
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 6: he's great. I think he's gonna be there. I'm one

773
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 6: pick hands down. Yeah, somebody's gonna win.

774
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: Agreed, before we get out of here. Next Monday is

775
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: the day you mean ninety mile an hour pitch? You

776
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: mean when I'm going to hit the ninety ringing cameras?

777
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have your money ready.

778
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: Van just talked to told you about his little war baseball. Yeah,

779
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: but how he said he was nice as Pop's playing

780
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: in the minor league.

781
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 5: You don't have no DNA or lineage of baseball.

782
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: That's how you're gonna do me on.

783
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Bro, ninety miles an hour pitch. You

784
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: said you only need five pitches and you're gonna hit

785
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: it fair.

786
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: I have to do squid back to the picture. That's

787
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: all you got to do.

788
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: And you also said I'm gonna throwing the thousand on

789
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: there because you said you can hit left handed eighty

790
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: miles an hour.

791
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 6: That's for my guy Nate right there, and that's that's

792
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 6: a done deal.

793
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: That's easy. Absolutely, are you going to be there? We're

794
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: gonna film this ship. Everyone's going to be there.

795
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 6: You know, I've been working with my batting coach. You

796
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: got a bet absolutely new equipment.

797
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: Are you a madding glove kind of guy? Absolutely batting glove?

798
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm betting glove baby, Okay, yeah, I use my

799
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 6: hands for the other thing.

800
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

801
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: So so when you lose, it's one hundred cush ups

802
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: on call. You saw last week we had Ray doing

803
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: push ups during the episode. Yeah, but you're older too.

804
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: I hate to have to embarrass you. Also have a

805
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: bet with Jack too. What's Jack thousand? And he's gonna

806
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: make me do the cush ups on on the spot

807
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: on call? Yes, Yeah, I'm goddy. You guys have your

808
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: money ready though.

809
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 5: My money's already here. I'm just gonna keep it's going

810
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 5: to sleep here.

811
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 6: This is a done deal. You guys a gonna I'm

812
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 6: shock the world. I appreciate you.

813
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and lock this road deal up. Okay,

814
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: we're going to lock you. We go, lock you in.

815
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: Lock you.

816
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna be walking around with a stiff neck.

817
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: Yes.

818
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: So before we get out of here, I want to

819
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: leave you guys with some picks.

820
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 5: I went four and oh last week.

821
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys expected, but head on

822
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: over to DraftKings right now to lock your picks in

823
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: for this week's football action. I got a couple of

824
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: picks here that I'm rolling with. No real shocker. I

825
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: don't think Steelers at Commanders Commanders and minus two. I'm

826
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and take the Commanders. I like what

827
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: they've been able to do this year. I don't know

828
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: if there's still a top tier contender, but I think

829
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: getting in the playoffs is a great start for them.

830
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna keep that bandwagon rolling. Forty nine Ers

831
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: minus five at the Bucks. You know, I gotta take

832
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: my squad. They just came Bucks just came off a

833
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: tough loss versus Pat Mahomes and then Chief Boys, so

834
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna be back at home hungry, but I'm taking

835
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: the Niners minus five, and last, but not least, the

836
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: Lions are rolling into Texas. I like what CJ's doing

837
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: out there, but the Lions could be if not. You know,

838
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm playing the best football in in the uh what division?

839
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting the NFC. The Lions if could be, if not,

840
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: the best team or or playing the best football right

841
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: now in the NFC. So I'm gonna stick with the

842
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: Lions minus three at the Texans. Got some hoop for

843
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: you NBA Friday Suns at MAVs and Warriors at Calves.

844
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: I got the Suns going into Dallas and snagging that one,

845
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: and I got the Warriors going into Cleveland and getting

846
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: that one. That's gonna be a tough one. Cleveland and

847
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: eight and oh right now playing really well. Uh but

848
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: I got Golden State playing really well as well. Steph

849
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: is getting his flow back, and they're gonna go in

850
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: Cleveland and knock them boys off. So again, make sure

851
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: you guys have over draft games right now to like

852
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: your picks in We'll see you.

853
00:41:49,480 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: Got a text week