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Speaker 3: Hey, and welcome to a special one on one edition

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Speaker 3: of No Duns. We're back, Baby. I'm your host for today,

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Speaker 3: Trey Kirby alongside me. It's Task Melicet and of course

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Speaker 3: we've got the man making the magic happen, JD. What's up, y'all?

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Speaker 3: We're joined today by the producer and co host of

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Speaker 3: The Raptors Show with Will lou Up in Canada. He's

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Speaker 3: also the co host of the Running the Break podcast.

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Speaker 3: He's also the author of Cover Story, one of the

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Speaker 3: best basketball books of the past year, and he's also

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Speaker 3: had bylines at slam GQ in the most legendary New

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Speaker 3: York Times, among many many others. One of the best

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Speaker 3: guys out there, our friend man of the Internet, Alex

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Speaker 3: Wang Alex, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Buddy?

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Speaker 2: Glad to be part of a part of a classic

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Speaker 2: here on No Dunks. You know? Shouts to you, Task

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Speaker 2: and the rest of the team. Where's the other guys? Man?

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Speaker 4: They want to talk?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you released your book in like October

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Speaker 3: of last year, we said we're gonna get alex on

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Speaker 3: right away. So they've been waiting patiently for eleven months,

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Speaker 3: but something came up today.

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Speaker 2: Here know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been here for eleven months in the studio.

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Speaker 2: Man, this is a story of my life in this industry. Man.

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Speaker 2: I got a little respect, but you know, people will

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Speaker 2: be hating on me. No, I'm glad to be here

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Speaker 2: and what's up, guys.

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Speaker 3: We're super happy to be talking to you. One of

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Speaker 3: the questions I had for you, though, is, once somebody

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Speaker 3: says to you, what do you do? What do you tell?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you write your podcast, you're a producer as well.

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Speaker 3: Many hats that you're wearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, many hats that I wear day to day too.

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Speaker 2: I see in the chat show us to some of

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Speaker 2: what hat I'm wearing. I appreciate you, guys, but please

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Speaker 2: get a life, please continue listening and supporting our show. No,

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Speaker 2: that's actually a really good question, I think. I think honestly,

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Speaker 2: I just say I cover basketball. I try to keep

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Speaker 2: it really simple, like I cover the Raptors, I cover

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a difficult test. It's a difficult question even

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Speaker 4: for us, where ours is pretty streamlined. We podcast essentially,

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Speaker 4: do the podcasting. So I'm sure it came up you're

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Speaker 4: at a wedding this weekend. I was interested to hear

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Speaker 2: are realizing, I will be promoting the Raft Show eighty

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Speaker 2: I love talking serious content talk. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: you're also doing the Running the Break podcast. Who's the

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Speaker 3: better co host though? Will or cj oh Man?

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Speaker 4: He's like running, He's like Kyle Lowry shots that's not

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Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, I want I want him. I want

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Speaker 3: He waited for a good time to make his trade

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Speaker 3: You can get away with an all caps trade request

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Speaker 2: Oh am, I back, Yeah, you're back.

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Speaker 4: You're back, boss Man? And I like how you how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the bad vibes were imminent and palpable when you

433
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 3: were talking to him about handshakes. And speaking of bad vibes,

434
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 3: I mean there's a little bad vibes going around at

435
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 3: Media Day in some places yesterday. I mean the Sons

436
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 3: and the Celtics certainly stick out. You notice anything from

437
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 3: these various media days, Alex that interested you, that something

438
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 3: you want to talk about.

439
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean aphilia has been talked to death, but

440
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 2: I mean the Brooklyn Nets. The Brooklyn Nets are hilarious.

441
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 2: I think it was I think it was Nick Fodell

442
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 2: who said feels like a family you know who who

443
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 2: was going to go through with a divorce and then

444
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 2: decided last minute to not go through with it, and

445
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 2: now they're trying to rebuild the pieces. And I'm like, wow, yeah,

446
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: that is the exact vibe. I mean, did Kevin Durant

447
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 2: not actively try to get his head coach and general

448
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: manager fired? Like this was just report it right? And

449
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: Steve Nash talked about it yesterday and he was like, Oh,

450
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: this stuff happens in the family. I'm like, what do

451
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: you what are you talking about? Man? I've never I've

452
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 2: never tried to actively fired my dad or my mom, Like,

453
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 2: I've never tried to actively get them out of my life.

454
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,959
Speaker 2: Once again, Katie came up with a list of demands

455
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: and Joe Sides ripped it up. He's like, YO, talk

456
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: to me when you when you make your first billion.

457
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: So I respect Josia a lot, but like, I think

458
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn situation is so interesting to me. It's so

459
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: dramatic there that the Ben Simmons coming back from playing

460
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: basketball after an entire year off. It is like number

461
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: three on that list. Yeah, when it should be like

462
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 2: the focal point because I feel like, especially when you

463
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 2: talk about them on the court, how Ben Simmons does

464
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: does this year is going to really determine how good

465
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: the Nets can be. You know, for me, big believer

466
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 2: in vibes, Like you know, Phoenix Suns technically outside of

467
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 2: j A, really returning most of their roster from last season,

468
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: and you know that court group has done a lot

469
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: of great things last two years. But based on everything,

470
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 2: like I'm not you know, I'm telling you right now,

471
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: Sons are not gonna finish top four in the West Man.

472
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: That's my hot take. And same with Brooklyn, Like I

473
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 2: don't I'm gonna go ahead and just say I don't

474
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: see Kadi, Kyrie and Ben Simmons, all three of them

475
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 2: being on the Brooklyn Nets by the end of the season.

476
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: Like I just I just can't see how they can

477
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: just pick up the pieces back together. Maybe they go

478
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: on a ridiculous run on the court, and you know,

479
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: success on the court always solves everything. But like it's

480
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: just a mess over there, and like I need Steve

481
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: Nash to just like quit man. Steve Nash does not

482
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: need this. Like has Steve Nash been happy one day

483
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: in his life, like coaching with the Brooklyn Nets, except

484
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: for that one time when Katie you know, scored fifty

485
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: against the Bucks in the playoffs and they had that

486
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 2: big hug at the end. Like I've never seen Steve

487
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: Nash this miserable and he's a happy, go lucky guy.

488
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: So so Steve Nash, please just you know, get away

489
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 2: from there.

490
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're always saying he could just be watching Tottenham,

491
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 3: having a great time watching the Spurs and be fine

492
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: with it. You mentioned you're a big fan of vibes.

493
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: How are vibes that raptors media day? Things looking good

494
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: for Toronto?

495
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the vibes are always good, I think when you've

496
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: got guys like Scottie around and you know, Pascal had

497
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: a great bounce back season last year, so the joy

498
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 2: is back. And you know Fred's the Freds, the diplomatic

499
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: you know veteran now, which is kind of weird. Because

500
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: I do remember him just coming up as the bench.

501
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: Mom feels like yesterday, you know, drama free, I think

502
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: would be the way to say it. You know, I

503
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: was thinking back to past media days. Everybody remembers the

504
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: Kawhi media laugh, Media Day laugh, you know, and even

505
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: last year when the Raptors were coming back from Tampa.

506
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: Just having them back in the city, it was a

507
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 2: big deal. Not a lot of things to talk about yesterday,

508
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 2: right like the like, you know, they brought the whole

509
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: team back. You know, they're gonna continue developing. You know,

510
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: they feel very good about their team internally, all the

511
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: stuff that they say on media Day. The only biggest

512
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: drama was really og and Andobi was involving some trade

513
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: rumors and he addressed those really quickly and said that

514
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: he's happy to be here. Og apparently on the on

515
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: the media directory now goes by O dot G dot

516
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: Like that was really the biggest thing that came out.

517
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: James herbertsh also James Herbert. He's like some people in

518
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: the offseason add add muscle. Ogi is the only one

519
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: who added a punctuation.

520
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: So that's not bad. I guess minor changes for the

521
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: Raptors this year Wancho Otto, Porter and a couple of

522
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: periods in og Ananobi's name. The Bulls basically did the same.

523
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: They didn't add any punctuation, but they added like the

524
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: seventh and eighth men from the old Brooklyn Nets squad

525
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 3: last year. Meanwhile, a couple of teams who both the

526
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: Bulls and Raptors are chasing, in the Hawks and the Calves,

527
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: made huge trades for all Stars. Alex, I know you've

528
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 3: been watching five through twelve in the Eastern Conference intently

529
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: the past couple of years. It's been the most competitive

530
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: part of the NBA, if you ask me, trying to

531
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 3: figure out who's going to be five to six, and

532
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: then in the play in games rank these teams. For me,

533
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: we got the Raptors, the Bulls, the Calves, and the

534
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: Hawks all kind of in the same zone. But obviously

535
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: the Cavs and Hawks made changes this year, Bowls and

536
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 3: Raptors were content to basically run it back.

537
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: You know, let's let's preface this with the fact that

538
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm producer and cost of the Raptors show, so you know,

539
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: definitely gonna you know, realistically, though, I would, you know,

540
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: objectively put the Raptors at the top of this list.

541
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: You know, I truly think you know, they played they

542
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: played like a five hundred team last year for the

543
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: first fifty games, and there was a lot of different

544
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: factors contributing to that, and the main one being that

545
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: Pascal was out at the beginning of the season. And

546
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: you know, you see the way that they were able

547
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: to make a push in the final couple months of

548
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: the season, basically playing as a fifty plus win team.

549
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: And you know, I thought they had a really good

550
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: showing against the Sixers in the first round, even though

551
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: they did fall down three to zero. And you bring

552
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: back Pascal, you know, a fully healthy summer to work.

553
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of continuity you mentioned, like

554
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: I think even guys like Chris Bouchet and Precious Achua

555
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: are going to take another step. And then of course

556
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: all eyes is going to be on Scottie. You know,

557
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: I think the Raptors fan base is really excited, and

558
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 2: sometimes I do try to tamper those expectations because like

559
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: young players sometimes take a lot of time. You know,

560
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: you look at you know, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown

561
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: in Boston, like how many ups and downs they had

562
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: to go through before they broke through to the finals.

563
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: But I truly do believe, you know, this Raptor team

564
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: is built to have a really good regular season, and

565
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: I really would be surprised that they did didn't finish

566
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: in the top four. So I would put the Raptors

567
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: up top. Man, the rest is really tough. I guess

568
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: I would go with the Calves next. You know, I

569
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: think they have a really promising cores. You know obviously

570
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: Evan Mobley, you know, Jared Allen, Daris Garland, you add

571
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell to the mix. I think this is a

572
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: perfect situation for Donovan Mitchell. You know, he doesn't have

573
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: to be the guy. He's got great support on defense,

574
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: and you know, so I'm gonna put the Calves next. Man, Trey,

575
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna kick me off, man, So I'm gonna put

576
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: the Hawks. I'm gonna put the Hawks next and then

577
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: have the Bulls for That's what I'm gonna do.

578
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I think you're probably right with the way things

579
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: are gonna go. I had to ask it, man, Like

580
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: you know, the Bulls are kind of fly it under

581
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: the radar for having a disappointing offseason. But the Lonzo

582
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: injury and then the fact that he only had to

583
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: have surgery right before training camp was starting. It ain't good.

584
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: The vibes aren't good. The vibes aren't bad yet, but

585
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: the vibes are certainly not good. Meanwhile, the Hawks like

586
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: it looks like they already love each other as a team.

587
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: The Caves are super talented, and the Raptors like they're

588
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: over under numbers are going to be low because they

589
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: are kind of similar to me to the Miami Heat,

590
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: where you can't really guess what they're going to be

591
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: like in the regular season because they're gonna overachieve. And

592
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure the Raptors, yes, they overachieved, just like the

593
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: Heat always do.

594
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: They have hit over on their over under total ten

595
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: of the last eleven seasons.

596
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: Because I'm not surprised.

597
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what people underestimate this team and underestimate the vibes.

598
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: You mentioned the vibes. I'm surprised you gave it a

599
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: two out of ten terms of the offseason, how because

600
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 4: I don't care if Scotty Barnes is playing against guys

601
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: I've never seen before, and those Rico Hines runs, the

602
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 4: guy look like Kawhi Leonard two point zero with those

603
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: thick tree trunk legs, like just dominating in that fashion,

604
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: like just bullying guys who have never been NBA players before.

605
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 4: I don't care. I think he just it's it's just

606
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: it's nice to dream here. It's September. It's fun to

607
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: just think about Scottie Barnes and what he can assent

608
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 4: and just Messiah Jeri. You talked about media day like that,

609
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: dude is still pushing this team forward. He knows he

610
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: doesn't have a superstar there, but he still says, yeah, yeah, yeah,

611
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: we can talk about getting better and being good, but

612
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's about winning. So he's

613
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: still pushing this team and pushing all his guys. So

614
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see what this team can do. You

615
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: mentioned Siaka and even a healthy Fred for most of

616
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: the season, with a Scotti, with an og A Andobe,

617
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: who Massai talked up yesterday has potentially taken another leap.

618
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: He's done a good job of I think, just putting

619
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: a lot of confidence in his guys. There's there's that.

620
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how any Eastern Conference team looks at

621
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: the schedule and says we're gonna be a fifty win

622
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: team because you just mentioned four teams that are like

623
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: six through nine. There's too many good teams. There's so

624
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: many good teams, somebody's gonna be ridiculously disappointed. And it

625
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: could be the Bulls, I guess. But there's good there's

626
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: gonna be there's gonna be some team that finishes like

627
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: out of the freaking blasts like thirty eight and forty four.

628
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: Oh, definitely, like Charlotte's got to be worried. The Knicks,

629
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: I think he got to be a little bit worried.

630
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: And R. J.

631
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: Barrett said they're going to shock the world. It would

632
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: be a shock to me if they're a very good

633
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: team next year. So I agree with him on that.

634
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: How about any of these other teams, Alex, who are

635
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: you excited to watch in this coming season? We've had

636
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: minor changes over the course of the season or off season.

637
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm really excited to watch the Cavs.

638
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: You know, I really think they're a really exciting young

639
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: team and we're looking if we're looking out west too.

640
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch the Clippers. You know on the

641
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: games that Kawi will show up, you know, funniest man

642
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: on Earth. You know, I'm really excited to see what

643
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: the Clippers can do, and even Denver getting Jamal mur back.

644
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: So New Orleans is another team that I think is

645
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: really exciting. Minnesota as well, adding Rudy Gobert. You know,

646
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm just not listening to the Eastern Conference teams because

647
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: I feel like, because I cover the Raptors, I watched

648
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: so many of them, watching the Celtics, the Sixers, I'm

649
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: so yo. I don't want to see another Raptors magic

650
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: game in my lifetime. I don't even want to see

651
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: another Raptors heat game in my lifetime. Why is it

652
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: always seventy six to seventies and the Raptors make eight

653
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: threes and they take fifty of them? Like, I'm so

654
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: tired of those games.

655
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: I don't play you. I was laughing. It was going

656
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: around on Twitter. It was like wingspans by position or

657
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: something like that, and it was like the Raptors was

658
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: like their their point guard in their center were like

659
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: number thirtieth or thirtieth in wingspan, but then the longest

660
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: wingspans two through four and the heat were the complete opposite.

661
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: I was like, it's no wonder these teams bash each

662
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 3: other so the way they do. But Alex, what else

663
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: should we talk about here? You wrote a book. It's

664
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 3: called Cover Story, The NBA and the Modern Basketball as

665
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: told through its most iconic magazine covers. I love this book,

666
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: especially my blurb on the back. That's why we didn't

667
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 3: kick you off the podcast when you said the balls

668
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: were going to finish ninth or tenth. Why in the

669
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: world would you pick me to blurb your book and

670
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: it didn't make the cut just because nobody else emailed back.

671
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: No, No, it definitely make the cut, No, Tray, I

672
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: think you know it when it comes to you know,

673
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: this book is obviously very much rooted in basketball and

674
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: its cultural impact, you know, through looking at Fame magazine

675
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: covers and Sports Illustrated Slam, you know, ESPN the magazine,

676
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: even the Sore Sorece Sports and then all these different

677
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: magazines that I grew up reading. And you know, when

678
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: I think about basketball and culture, you know, I wanted

679
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: to think of people who would appreciate this book, and

680
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: you were one of the first people that I thought of,

681
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: and so, you know, it was it was very important

682
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: to me. It was an honor. It was an honor

683
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: for you to check out, to be able to check

684
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: out this book and provide a blurport.

685
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: Well, it was an honor for me too, and it

686
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: made me a hero in my own household. For my

687
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: kids to see my name on the back of somebody

688
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 3: else's book, they were so excited. But Alex, what's been

689
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: the coolest thing that's happened for you since this book

690
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: came out? As somebody come to you and said, man,

691
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I read the book and it was crazy to be

692
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: thrown back to those times.

693
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, actually one of the nicest things that

694
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, I received a message from Dennis Page, who

695
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: was a founder of Slam, because Slam really opened the

696
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: doors to me in terms of giving me access. You know,

697
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 2: I was able to talk to Dennis about the founding

698
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: of Slam back in ninety three. I was able to

699
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: talk to you know, iconic writers growing up that I

700
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: grew up reading, you know, from Scoop Jackson to Rust

701
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: Banks and and talking to the current Slam crew as well,

702
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, Susan Thomas and Adam Figman. Wow, I saw,

703
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like the game right now, I'm just

704
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: name dropping on it. So but you know, Dennis sent

705
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: me a really nice message and said that thank you

706
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: for capturing the spirit of Slam basically, and you know

707
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: that that's important to me. I think, I think when

708
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: you're writing a book and you're telling the stories of

709
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: other people, again, you know, there is a there is

710
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: kind of a bit of responsibilit to that you want

711
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: to be fair in your storytelling, but you also want

712
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: to get the story right. And you know, for him

713
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: to to kind of send me that note, you know

714
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: that that didn't mean a lot to me.

715
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: Best name drop I think you've ever done wasn't just now.

716
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: It was on the Banter Pod. You said that you

717
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: almost appeared on Jesus and Merrill, that you were there.

718
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: You were there in the green room waiting to come on.

719
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: So when Jesus and Merrill split up, I thought, well,

720
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: maybe maybe Jesus is going to start a show.

721
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, can I tell Can I tell that story for

722
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: like one minute?

723
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.

724
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was living in New York at the time,

725
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: and you know, I knew Jesus. I reached out to

726
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Jesus because back back in the day, I did my

727
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: own podcast, just Stephen Lebron Radio is a very independent thing,

728
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: and I reached out to Jesus. I think when he

729
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: had like two thousand followers on Twitter, because I just

730
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: saw a tweet of his and I thought he was

731
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: hilarious and he was coming up in complex and I

732
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: actually asked him to come record a podcast with me

733
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: at my New York apartment. And you know, rookie me,

734
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: you know, I don't got JD behind the boards all

735
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: of that stuff. Forgot to press record. I was so

736
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: excited that we we chatted for two hours. He was

737
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: so kind, and then I was like, oh man, now

738
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: I got to hit him up and be like, hey man,

739
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: like this just didn't record. And I wasn't even going

740
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 2: to ask him to record again because I just felt

741
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: so bad. He's like, yo, I'm coming through again tomorrow.

742
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: So like we just actually did the whole podcast again

743
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: a second time. You know, I bought him. I forgot

744
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: some ipa beer. I should have kept that and sold it, like,

745
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: you know, drank by Jesus. And then you know, Kevin

746
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: touch with him as he was blowing up. And then

747
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: when I was leaving New York, I was just hitting

748
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: up a lot of people saying goodbye, and you know,

749
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: hit up Jesus and he's like Yo, come through the

750
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: Vice studios and come chill and just like kind of

751
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: sit in the audience, get to know the crew. We

752
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: can hang out after when I went there, the guests

753
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: I guess that was supposed to be on was not

754
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: available or they couldn't reach him last minute. So then

755
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: Jesus like went to Mirro and went to the producers

756
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: behind the scenes and was like, hey man, my boy, Alex.

757
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: You know he's written for GQ's written for Slim, He's

758
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: got jokes. So then, like for like three minutes, I

759
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: was sitting there thinking of what I would put on

760
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: my rainbow on the show. And then of course the

761
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: guests ended up appearing, but I did, and I do

762
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: have a photo with Jesus and Merrill like on the

763
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: set as if I was just on the show, like

764
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: in front of the bear and the tim So I

765
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: remember posting that out and I've never felt so more

766
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: popular in my life.

767
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, just photoshop rainbow on it and it'll be like

768
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: you appeared on the show. Anyways, What did you settle on?

769
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: What were you going to say for your identification?

770
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I was telling Will it was probably

771
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: would have been something lame, not lame. I mean, I'm

772
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: proud of it. It would have been like something Asian. It

773
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: would have been like, oh, it's an honor to be

774
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: Asian or something, you know, it would have it would

775
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: have been something like that. It's hard to come up

776
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: with something like witting on the spot. I feel like

777
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: it's a lot of pressure.

778
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: Definitely, you need at least three minutes to think of

779
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: it ahead of time. So that's cover story. Do you

780
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: do you have a favorite Do you have a favorite

781
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: cover from you know, Slam, Sports Illustrator or some of

782
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: these other magazines back in the day.

783
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. My favorite cover and it only got

784
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: a brief mention in the book, but it's the Clippers.

785
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: One is the Clippers one with Elton Bran lamar Odom

786
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: and I want to say you rich And they're wearing

787
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: each other's there is Miles right, yeah, dearis Miles, Daris

788
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: Miles is. Yeah, Like they're wearing each other's jerseys and

789
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: they've got do rags on. That was just that was

790
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: just a really cool era of the Clippers. Like I

791
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: think we all remember growing up and a lot of

792
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: listeners remember growing up like it was Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, right,

793
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: like from Magic to like Shaq and Kobe the Clippers

794
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: was like, like, who are you talking about? Like Lloy Vaught,

795
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 2: you know Pooone, Richard, Eric Pie and Cow's he my man,

796
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: like like they were not a fun team. I think

797
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: the only time they like people ever talked about them

798
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: was one year they started like oh and seventeen and

799
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: I remember turning on jay Leno and jay Leno started

800
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: making Clippers jokes every night and I was like, oh

801
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: my god, Yeah, there's the cover right there, and it's

802
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: yeah that that that is actually my favorite cover. I

803
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: just think, like aesthetically, it really captures an entire era

804
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: and it really captures how I tried to dress in

805
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: a great tent. So it was amazing.

806
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I started wearing headbands as soon as

807
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 3: that one came out. It must be awesome for you

808
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: then having written this book to go on to start

809
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: working and editing the first issue issue of Slam Canada.

810
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: I'll tell us a little bit about that.

811
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 2: Oh damn man, my resume is Yeah. That was another

812
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: that was another wonderful opportunity. You know, Adam Figman, who

813
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: runs Slam in the US, reached out to me and

814
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: kind of gave me a heads up that he kind

815
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: of vouched for me in terms of, you know, putting

816
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: in a good word with the Canada team, of of

817
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: being part of the editing, being an editor on that

818
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: first issue, and it was it was super cool to

819
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: work with the entire team from Slam Canada to bring

820
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: in really like I was able to hand pick all

821
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: the writers, writers that I wanted to write these features.

822
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: And you know, the theme of the first issue was

823
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: just to celebrate the history of basketball in Canada, so

824
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: not just the Raptors, but also women's basketball and also

825
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: just the history of the sport here in the country.

826
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: So so many great talented people were able to celebrate.

827
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: A lot of writers, a lot of photographers, and you know,

828
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: had Kia Nurse on the cover. You know, Shay was

829
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: on another cover and Steve Nash as well. So you know,

830
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: that was really fun. That that was really fun. And

831
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: I hope Slam Canada gets to continue to grow because

832
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: so many of us, whether we lived in Canada or

833
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: overseas anywhere outside of the US, even in Asia in Europe, like,

834
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 2: Slam was such a gateway for us to learn about basketball,

835
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: and I hope it can continue to be that way

836
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: for the next generation.

837
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 3: Moving further down your CV here, I see you're currently

838
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: working on Prehistoric, a book about the arrival of the

839
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: Raptors in Toronto and the team's first season, which is

840
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: supposed to come out next year. Is that still the plan?

841
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm actually you know, people watching this stream

842
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: might think I'm a real chill dude. I'm actually stressed

843
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: out right now because my manuscript is doing four months.

844
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: So hopefully we can wrap up this podcast soon so

845
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: I'll go back to work. Guys.

846
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: Actually I remember right now.

847
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 2: Yo, anytime for you guys man, honestly, but like, yeah,

848
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Prehistoric is going to be, uh, you know, an inside

849
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: look at how the Raptors came to Canada and about

850
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: the first season. You know, I guess I can say

851
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 2: this publicly. Damon Stotomyer is going to provide the forward.

852
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: And you know, if I had a chance to do

853
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: about one hundred and thirty plus interviews, uh, you know,

854
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: with with most of the roster, so you know, you

855
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: talk about Vincenzo Esposital, I've talked to him, Sean Tabaka,

856
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: I've talked to him, Ac Earl, Oliver Miller, Tracy Murray,

857
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: talked to talk to Brendan Malone, you know, ownership group organization.

858
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: It's we're going to dive into not just on the court,

859
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: but looking at how they built out the broadcast, you know,

860
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: the origin story of the logo, which I did a

861
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: story on for Slam a few years ago, which I'm

862
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: going to expand on. Inside look at when they beat

863
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: the Bulls, and inside Look really of telling the backstories

864
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: of all these people who made the Toronto Raptors possible

865
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: so prehistoric, yeah, coming next year. Coolest interview in the

866
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: book I've done so far was actually with Samuel L.

867
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: Jackson because he was a Raptors fan right first year

868
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: and one of the most famous things that he did

869
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: was in the Quentin Tarantino movie Jackie Brown. Famously, in

870
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: a scene he held up a Raptors double bag. He said,

871
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: I got it right here in my Raptors double bag.

872
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: He's probably caring drugs or something, you know, just stereotyping

873
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: the whole movie. But like I had a chance to

874
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: just talk to him about what it was like to

875
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: you know, you know, be watch an expansion team in

876
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: Toronto at the SkyDome during that first year, and also

877
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: just got the backstory of how he ended up getting

878
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: that double bag on set. So it's a lot of

879
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: those stories, a lot of those stories that people might

880
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: not think of, because I'm sure Tasking tested it too.

881
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: When people think about the first year of the Raptors,

882
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: they remember like three things. Like they remember, like, you know,

883
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas crashing through the Raptor's logo during his intro

884
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: press conference. They remember maybe Game and Sodomy are getting

885
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: booed on Draft Night. And they remember when they beat

886
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 2: Jordan and the Bulls because they won seventy two games

887
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: that season, and that's really all people remember. And for me,

888
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: it's like I've been a Raptors fan my whole life.

889
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: You know, I was like nine years old when the

890
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: Raptors came here. I remember watching them on the New VR,

891
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: but I didn't really follow them that intimately. And like,

892
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: I want to tell this story because I think there's

893
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: all a younger generation of fans who think the Raptors

894
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: started when like Vince Carter, you know, stuck his arm,

895
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, stuck his elbow in the rim at the

896
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: two thousand dunk contest. And it's like it's important for

897
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: people to understand and learn and appreciate about the origin

898
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: story of the Raptors. So that that's that's really why

899
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: I you know, thanks for taking this book pitch meeting.

900
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it because I know people have

901
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: tried to do the first few years, and there's been

902
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: plenty of decent books written about it. But to hear

903
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: the interview, the scope of the interviews you've done, and

904
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 4: I know you've been dropping names this whole podcast, but man,

905
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: it continues there. You're gonna hurt your back picking up

906
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 4: all those names you just dropped. But that's that's a

907
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 4: that's a lot of names we talk about. Yeah, that

908
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: first season in here, because I think it's the last

909
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: game that you've been to, JD. Was that Jordan game?

910
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: I know you were there, you just happened to be

911
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: there when Jordan bet Did you say the last game?

912
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 4: The last was a joke? That was the obviously the

913
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: first game you that was. That was my first Raptors game. Yeah,

914
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: first season, So there's a lot, there's a lot to

915
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: go through in that first season. There was there was

916
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: a lot. I mean, Samuel L. Jackson as a Raptor

917
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: super fan back then, he was literally a Raptor Superer

918
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: fan for several years. People don't know that that's a

919
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: that's a good of you. It's a good There's there's

920
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: a lot to go through, uh and a lot of

921
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 4: a lot of heartache and heartbreak and some bad, bad

922
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: moments in the SkyDome.

923
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: Sounds like I must read for Raptors fandom as a

924
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: Raptor fan for your whole life, Alex, what's the best

925
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: era of Raptors jerseys?

926
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: Best era of Raptors jerseys, It's it's when Vince was here.

927
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: It's when they moved away from the Dino, which I love,

928
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: But it was those Nike Nike Dazzle jerseys that had

929
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: like the purple and it just said Toronto and I

930
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: think there's like a black like black pattern on the

931
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: side they say the jersey that he wore during the

932
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: Dunk contest. That's that's really the era of jerseys that

933
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: the Raptors have not retroed like they've retroed the Dino,

934
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: you know, they've retroed the Huskies, you know. Now they've

935
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: done these kind of remixes with with the Drake black

936
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: and gold with the Ovio collapse, but they haven't gone

937
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: back to just the straight up like two thousand, two

938
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: thousand and one Raptors, because that was the height of

939
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: the fandom, right, like when Vince hit those like nine

940
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 2: threes I think in the first half against the Sixers

941
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: in that series when he battled AYI like, those are

942
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: great memories. So for me, the jersey from from that

943
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: era for sure.

944
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: And uh, you talked to Vincenzo Esposito or are you

945
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: are you dropping the proper pronunciation when you said if Sposito?

946
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: Is that the problem?

947
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: I've been known on the bandropod to just pronounce everything wrong.

948
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: Apparently apparently my man that I listened to, it's not

949
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: sift Jen Stevens. Am I pronouncing his name wrong. I've

950
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: been bumping that, bumping that Illinois album a lot, and

951
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: like I've been getting a lot of crap for just

952
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: one of the I always I always preface before the

953
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: start of every bandropod just apologies for mispronouncing everything, like

954
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't mean to do it, but yeah, I think Esposito,

955
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: like I think I I just kind of put my

956
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: own little touch on that at the moment. Thankfully it's

957
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: thankfully it's a written text, so ill you know, unless

958
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: I do an audiobook. I'm never gonna have to fact

959
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: check that no Cholsea Vincenzo chosea Vincenzo. It was such

960
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: a great chat and it's wild tracking down all these guys.

961
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: Like John Tobac was like, Hey, I'm in Split Croatia

962
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 2: right now. When we're on a zoom, he's like showing

963
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: me the views in the back. Vincenzo I don't have

964
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: a story for because I think he did it out

965
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: of his closet, but you know, I'm sure he was

966
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: in a beautiful villa in Italy. And even Damon. You know,

967
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: Damon was really busy because he's on the coaching staff

968
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 2: with the Boston Celtics, so we weren't able to chat

969
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: really during all throughout last season. But he's been so

970
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: gracious with his time and just connecting me with his

971
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: family as well. And we've been doing basically weekly zooms,

972
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: but the past couple of months just kind of going

973
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: down memory lane and it's been great. Like I'm really

974
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: excited to share these stories with everybody.

975
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: We're going down memory lane right here. This is great. Uh.

976
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: John Debac first assist in Raptors history, the Weird One,

977
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: A big center passing it out to Alfred Robertson. Vincenzo Esposito,

978
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 4: I think, was the first player signed for the Raptors.

979
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: He was the first player signed to introduce him at

980
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: the Columbus Club in Little Italy in downtown Toronto. Yeah,

981
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: and then he lived in a I mean, this is

982
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: very Toronto reference, but you guys, I get it. But like,

983
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: he lived in Oakville, so he lived outside because he

984
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: was told that the practice facility was going to be there.

985
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: And then when he bought, he got the house and

986
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, never mind, we were practicing at

987
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: Glendon College at York University. So he was like, he

988
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: was like, I guess my dogs liked Oakville.

989
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 3: So I can't wait, can't wait to read these stories.

990
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: And there's oh.

991
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 4: There there you can use this in the book.

992
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: This is a photo in fact that will be the cover.

993
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 4: Now.

994
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have just made a cover reveal for a

995
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: prehistoric Yeah.

996
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: If you're following along on YouTube, this is a photo

997
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: I took in the Dominican Republic randomly in like two

998
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 4: thousand and eight or something.

999
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: Amazing.

1000
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: I saw a Raptors jersey with Esposito on the back.

1001
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: Esposito in number four and I thought, that's him. That's

1002
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: got to be him. No, it's not vincenzoesposito. But you

1003
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: can have it is so amazing.

1004
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: Prehistoric. We will be on the lookout for. But we

1005
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: wanted to get your opinion on some current topics, uh in,

1006
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: and about the NBA right now. So we're gonna play

1007
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: a game called the Up down Report fifty oh yeah,

1008
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: oh yeah, we got thumbs get your thumbs up. Alex

1009
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 3: will give you a topic about the NBA or something

1010
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 3: kind of affiliated with the NBA. You tell us whether

1011
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: or not you like it, up or down. After a

1012
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: two decade hiatus, has Bro is bringing back starting lineup

1013
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 3: action figures. They were big in the eighties and nineties,

1014
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: of course, but they've returned now with more detail, more posability.

1015
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: They now costs fifty dollars fifty dollars for starting lineup. So, Alex,

1016
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: you up or down on starting lineup action figures?

1017
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: Man? I was. I was up until I heard the

1018
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: fifty dollars price point. Man, that's that's a down for me.

1019
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: That's a down for me because one of the thrills

1020
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: about starting lineup figures, like I remember growing up, and

1021
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: I remember even when you when you go thrifting. Now,

1022
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: like a lot of a lot of places will just

1023
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: if you go to a flea market, they'll just randomly

1024
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: have starting lineup figures just rolled out. And you know,

1025
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: I did have a run where I tried to collect

1026
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: every single like Power Forward from the nineties and like,

1027
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 2: so I have like a Tyrone Hill starting line figure

1028
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: and it's just like ridiculous. But the crazy thing is

1029
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: my favorite thing about those figures is everybody looked like

1030
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: either Damon Stardham or a Tyrone Hill. They like they

1031
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: like really only have like three like faces that they

1032
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: used for every single player. To me, these seem a

1033
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: little bit too realistic for me actually, like it's not

1034
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: in the spirit of starting lineup figures. And I am

1035
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: completely baffled by the fifty dollars price point you're supposed

1036
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: to get these out to kids, Like these are for kids.

1037
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: That's that's like a that's like five starting lineup s

1038
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 3: backing like popcorn.

1039
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: That's like one and one point four popcorn.

1040
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. More, you said a lot of detail, more detailed,

1041
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 4: more posability, and more junk. Did you see the bottom

1042
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: half of these players. It's like they're wearing diapers like

1043
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: a diaper like film.

1044
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: These these are realistic for me, man, I need these

1045
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: guys to look like alive ninety six players, like like,

1046
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: this is like way too much detail. Actually yeah, but yes,

1047
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: I am hung up on them. I'm actually hung up

1048
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: on the price point because I think these are great.

1049
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: This is a great way to introduce kids and to

1050
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: help them find their favorite players. And for fifty dollars,

1051
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: that's that's ridiculous.

1052
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: That's hafty. And man, now that you mentioned the diaper,

1053
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 3: hafty impossible not to notice. Also, I kind of think

1054
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: it's weird that there's no Nikola Jokic. There's like eight

1055
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: players that they're debuting this with, uh, Jason Tatum, Prey Young,

1056
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: John Morant, Joel Embiid, Luka Doncic, Jannis Curry, and Lebron

1057
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: Not the two time MVP disrespected all the time, that underrated,

1058
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 3: not even in the starting lineup for starting lineup action figures.

1059
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 3: Staying in the realm of things you could play with.

1060
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: Perhaps Boardroom reported last week that Luka doncuc is revamping

1061
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: his TikTok with an AI enabled virtual creator designed after

1062
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: his own likeness, called Luke Ai. Luke Ai will completely

1063
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: control Lucas TikTok and will be co developed with his

1064
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: fans worldwide. I mean it looks like him. It does

1065
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 3: look like it. You can't deny it so him.

1066
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 4: I mean it looks exactly like him.

1067
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's the robot.

1068
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 4: Yes, that's good.

1069
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: Up or down on Luke AI or robot creators in general, Alex.

1070
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: Down down all that photo. That photo looked like Lucas

1071
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 2: staring down Devin Booker the whole game, doesn't. They're beating

1072
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: him by fifty You know, I heard TikTok, I heard Ai.

1073
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know, I just want to.

1074
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: I just want to, you know, go on Instagram, bring

1075
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: back friends there, you know, as you know, bring back

1076
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: chat groups, message boards and things like that. Uh, the

1077
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Internet has officially evolved out of my age range, unfortunately

1078
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: on TikTok. No man. I know friends who've been on

1079
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: TikTok and now they have like millions of followers, and

1080
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: like they're getting paid sponsorships off this, And I'm like,

1081
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: and all you're doing is just sharing your day to

1082
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: day life. I'm like, Damn, I grew up in the

1083
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 2: wrong era. You know how hard all of us had

1084
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: to grind to get to our positions. She told me,

1085
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: you just take your dog for a walk and you

1086
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: just share that what latte you're drinking at Starbucks. You know,

1087
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: I'm referencing my specific friend actually, so I just shut

1088
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: it out.

1089
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: Just in case.

1090
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: Day Yeah, just in case she's listening and she's like, damn,

1091
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: it's ripping up on my life right now. Shout shoot

1092
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: Sarah that respect. No, so thumbs down on this man.

1093
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: What it was like, This is like some metaverse stuff.

1094
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: It definitely feels like the plot to Space Jam three

1095
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: lucas TikTok creator somehow takes over and dominates via his phone.

1096
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 3: It's too bad that you're not going to be hopping

1097
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: on TikTok because I was hoping we would get Will

1098
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 3: loo Fits. But the TikTok.

1099
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: Everybody goes follow Will lou Fits on Instagram. I'm trying

1100
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: to get this man to five thousand followers by the

1101
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: end of the season, and then when brands hit hit

1102
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 2: me up, I will be giving them my size because

1103
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: I run his account for him. So everybody followed.

1104
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: Like trying to target the track jacket brands or all I.

1105
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: Want is a uniclothed sponsorship.

1106
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 3: Man.

1107
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: I've been begging for years. It's been radio silence.

1108
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: Did you wear a unicload of the wedding? And I

1109
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: heard that was a debate.

1110
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely did. But you know I paired

1111
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: it with some Gucci loafers and you know, Gucci ties

1112
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: a little you know, a little little high low. I

1113
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: don't like I don't like dressing up in general, man,

1114
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: But you know, let's not get into that. I have

1115
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: many gripes about just you know, wedding etiquette. But you know,

1116
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: we can move on.

1117
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: You may not like dressing up, but you like putting

1118
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: a nice pair of shoes on your feet. So I

1119
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about these. Nike just unveiled the

1120
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 3: twentieth edition Lebron's signature shoe Ron twenty good name Drop

1121
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: September twenty ninth, and it's the first mainline Lebron. That's

1122
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: a low top. What do you think, Alex up er

1123
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: down on the Nike Lebron twenty.

1124
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: Oh man, two thumbs up, two thumbs up to this one.

1125
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: You know, I haven't seen this shoe in person. You know,

1126
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of my influencer friends get get

1127
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 2: seated for this. So once again, can someone at Nike

1128
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: reach out to me, but no, this isn't amazing. I

1129
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: love the shoe, you know, I think, you know, the

1130
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: some of the Lebron shoes look look very you know,

1131
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: just for Lebron, some of the models especially, you know,

1132
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: if you want to look at like the Soldier models.

1133
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: This is a clean shoe, you know, for me, any

1134
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: basketball shoe that you can like wear casually and feel

1135
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: like you can kind of just get a fit off

1136
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: on like a random Wednesday just going out at sick

1137
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: like I would rock this pair, like, you know, endlessly.

1138
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 2: Once again shouts to the swuish man, hit me up.

1139
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm also trying to get the

1140
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: plug to come through with some of Lebron's twenties because

1141
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: they look good, man, they don't look like you got

1142
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: to be Lebron James to wear those and be styling

1143
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: out there on the streets or on the core. Moving on,

1144
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: footage hit the internet last week Alex of Drake balling

1145
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: out in one of Chris Brickley's pickup games, dropping three

1146
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: pointer after three pointer after three pointer. I think he

1147
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: made eleventh in a minute long clip, and also hit

1148
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: a finger roll at one point. Any think he was

1149
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: out of bouts. Yeah, we've seen a lot of Drake

1150
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: pickup highlights. Ever since he put that court in his house,

1151
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: We've been seeing Drake pickup highlights. He seems to be improving.

1152
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 3: But up or down on Drake's pickup game.

1153
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down on this just because, as I

1154
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 2: tell people, when they freak out, geek out over any

1155
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: NBA player who post a clip in the offseason. Like

1156
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: I remember there's one summer when Andre Drummond apparently discovered

1157
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: a corner three and posted an edited video. These videos

1158
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: are edited, man, Like, you know he did make those

1159
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 2: eleven threes, but where's the eighty eight misses? Man? I

1160
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: gotta see the real tape. Is he still beaving with

1161
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: push and tea? I don't push your t and get

1162
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: his hands on that tape. So you know, Shouster Drake,

1163
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: he's living the dream. You know, got caused dolls all

1164
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: over his mansion, He's got a basketball bourd Basically how

1165
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: I would live life if I had his amount of

1166
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: generational wealth. But the pickup game, I don't know, man.

1167
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: I just can't take any like celeb like pickup game

1168
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: footage seriously. So this is not directed towards Drake. You

1169
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: know my Ovo plug in case you're listening. I haven't

1170
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: slandered the brand, but no, just thumbs down, thumbs down

1171
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: to celect pickup game footage.

1172
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 4: He looks better.

1173
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: Though, he's getting better, There's no doubt Drake. We've seen

1174
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 3: Drake brow from just a barely ball or to hitting

1175
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: easy shots from from outside. I can't believe how much

1176
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 3: I've seen Drake play that Seriously.

1177
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 4: We saw obviously the miss three the college game, the one.

1178
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 3: Oh I think he missed that three, and he's like

1179
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:00,240
Speaker 3: never again.

1180
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, welled he literally took it personally and built his

1181
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: own gym, like like that's that's that's the definition of

1182
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: taking it personally. But yeah, shouts to Drake.

1183
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 4: Of course he can build his own gym. He's got bricks. Oh.

1184
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're gonna be able to answer

1185
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 3: this question, but I heard it posed at a campfire

1186
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: this weekend, Alex. Do you think Skeets could beat Drake

1187
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: in a basketball game? One on one?

1188
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: It? Oh my god, are you kidding me? I would

1189
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: bet on Skeets, yeahs like you know, like, yeah, no,

1190
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: I would totally. You guys got to make that happen. Man, Yeah,

1191
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, I know. Drake is

1192
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 2: a degenerate gambler. So you just got to appeal to

1193
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: that and put some odds on it, you know, get

1194
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: that betting sponsorship going. You know, put put like a

1195
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 2: point spread on Skeets, maybe like a Skeets minus three

1196
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: and a half. I know, Skeets out here running half marathons,

1197
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: full marathon super marathons. Like all he's got to do

1198
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: is out last Drake. Man, I don't you know Drakes

1199
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: and Drakes. Drake's pretty ripped. But like you know, I

1200
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: I think I think Skeet got him with the stamina

1201
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: game and the quickness.

1202
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: Man, he's not he ain't marathon shaped. Drake is, and

1203
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to see that. Skeet's defense, I don't think,

1204
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: because uh, it doesn't look like any Lockdown defenders are

1205
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: out there.

1206
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: That was the conversation around the fire. I don't think

1207
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 4: we even need to talk about it. What I wanted

1208
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 4: to talk about was naming every one of the Ontario

1209
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 4: television channels from our youth. That's what we usually do

1210
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 4: around the campfire. You just you named the new VR recently,

1211
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 4: Alex growing up watching games. Usually we go to through

1212
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 4: whatever fifty and name every every year when one of

1213
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 4: our Canadian friends come in, we just name every channel

1214
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: and we try and we try and knock them out

1215
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 4: Channel forty seven, Cable four channel you guys, yeah.

1216
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: You guys, memories are better than me. Shows shows show

1217
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: so y TV, y TV.

1218
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 4: Help me the green Goop, yeah for sure, Slime slime

1219
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: with Nicholas Piccolus.

1220
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 3: Oh this is this is can right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1221
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: I'm liking it. But speaking a pickup hoops, I came

1222
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: on your podcast recently, running the Break a couple of

1223
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: weeks back. You asked me to compare my pickup game

1224
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: to a current player, stayed humble and chose Nikola Jokic,

1225
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: the two time Rainy MVP. So up or down on

1226
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: someone comparing their own pickup game to an MVP in

1227
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 3: the NBA? Is that good or bad?

1228
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: Thumbs up? You know, I think a lot of us

1229
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: dream about playing in the NBA, maybe even just a

1230
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: celeb game, maybe even just being called during a timeout

1231
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: to do one of those contests. So like anytime in

1232
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: your own environment, you know, you don't even need to

1233
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: be Nikola Jokic on every possession. If you were Jokic

1234
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: on one possession, Like if you whipped like a cross

1235
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: court pass, like through like two defenders and it landed

1236
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: right in the shooting pocket of your teammate in the corner,

1237
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: you're Nikola Jokic, Like there was one night recently a

1238
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: pickup ball when you know, I locked down the best

1239
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: shooter on the other team, probably only for like possessions,

1240
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: but I've been going around telling everyone that I'm Draymond Green,

1241
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: and that's the story that I'm gonna hold on to

1242
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: for like the next five years. So if you do

1243
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: one single thing that's comparable to an MVP or to

1244
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: a star player, you gotta run with it. You gotta

1245
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: run with it. Just don't just don't tell me about it.

1246
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: You know, I don't really care about nobody's pickup game.

1247
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: There we go. I think that's a great answer. As

1248
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: long as you can pull off one NBA ish move,

1249
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: any comparison is valid. Last topic I've got for you.

1250
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: We're more survivor heads down here, but I've heard you're

1251
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 3: dying to be on Big Brother Canada, so I know

1252
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: you're going up, But give me the pitch up or

1253
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: down on Big Brother Canada.

1254
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Big Brother Canada. You know, I'm probably gonna blow

1255
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: my spot here. I've actually never watched the Canadian version,

1256
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: you know, I've watched a Big Brother US. So this

1257
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: actually sprung up because, you know, again, you know, just

1258
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: it's been really cool getting to know the listeners of

1259
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: the rapt show, and you know, Will informed me that

1260
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 2: one of the producers of Big Brother Canada is a

1261
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: regular listener and a huge fan of the show, and

1262
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this is my end before Will

1263
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: reminded me no, like, you also have to just be

1264
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: a civilian and submit an audition tape and go through

1265
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: the process. But you know, I love watching Big Brother US,

1266
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: and you know, I just think it would be a

1267
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: really fun experience. I've already crafted my fake story. I'm

1268
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: gonna lie about my job, lie about everybody. I'm going

1269
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: to say that Will lose my brother and he hosts

1270
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: a Raptor show, so then like it's not suspicious that

1271
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: I know so much about the Raptors. I'm gonna say

1272
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: I run an Etsy store. You know, definitely gonna be

1273
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: no generational wealth references until I get to the final two,

1274
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna call everybody broke when they vote

1275
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: me out nine zero. But like, I know, I just

1276
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: want to be on Big Brother. I think that's the

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Speaker 2: reality show that I would do the best. In Survivor

1278
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: is like an actual grind physically and mentally. I'm not

1279
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: down for that amazing race. I would just call an

1280
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: uber so, like none of these other ones, I'm willing

1281
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 2: to compete in. But like Big Brother would be really fun.

1282
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: Just hang out in the house for a month.

1283
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, I would be very upfront to people too.

1284
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, I'm gonna make you guys laugh, but

1285
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm not doing no dishes. Don't expect me to be

1286
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: able to cook. But however I can pick up the

1287
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: slock and you know in other places I will do so.

1288
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: The Draymond Green at the house, you might not be

1289
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 3: scoring the baskets, making the food. You're doing everything else

1290
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: out there, doing the dirty work.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's awesome.

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01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: What else should we talk about? Agnog? I know you

1293
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: want to get some egnog talk in here.

1294
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I know you've been pushing eggnog on Will,

1295
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 4: and Will says, nah, that's disgusting. However, this is something

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01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 4: that I've been thinking about for a decade since we've

1297
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 4: been down here, I haven't found a good eggnog down here.

1298
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Speaker 4: But but if you want to impress your colleagues at Sportsnet,

1299
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 4: you got to get a skid of Hewitt's Dairy Farm

1300
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: eggnog or you can. You can literally you can order it.

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01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: But it's right now.

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01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Huts dairy So it's out in the wilderness there

1303
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 4: in Ontario. But they come to the city, they come

1304
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 4: to the big city and they deliver eggnog. And I'm

1305
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 4: not proud of this, but when Danielle and my wife

1306
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 4: had a milk and cookies bakery, we made she made everything,

1307
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: but she didn't make one thing she sold. She repackaged

1308
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 4: eggnog from Hewett's Dairy Farm. We ordered it, it came in,

1309
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 4: We took it from the cart and poured it in

1310
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: the bottles, bottled it up and sold the bottle straight up.

1311
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 4: Which it's not right. It's not right to say that

1312
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 4: she made she made everything from scratching there, but that eggnog. Seasonally,

1313
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 4: we'd get it from Hewitt's Dairy Farm. I hate agna

1314
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 4: that comes in a cart and you get in the

1315
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 4: in the grocery store. It's gross. Well, no No, I

1316
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 4: just mean.

1317
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: That's not the container, that's the problem.

1318
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 4: I just I get this, like like Will on the show,

1319
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 4: I get this ichy feeling looking at that cart and

1320
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 4: that's been sitting sits in your fridge. You don't even

1321
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 4: open it or you pour a little bit out and

1322
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: it's like, ah, there's eggs in that thing. And it's

1323
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 4: been sitting there for months and for years because it

1324
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: sits on the shelf for years. But that dairy farmer,

1325
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: they literally make it. It's out the door, it's in your

1326
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 4: it's in your mouth in hours bottle or your bottle.

1327
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: So anyways, shoot straight from you'll get this is content

1328
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 4: for the show. Will drink it in on the show.

1329
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 4: It's a long season.

1330
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm so down with it. You know. Every

1331
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't know why, every year towards like the end

1332
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: of November, like I'll just walk into Shopper's drug mart

1333
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: and just you know, have an itch to pick up

1334
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: some egnog, Like it's it just feels like the right

1335
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: move to do. So I'm very pro eggnog. You know

1336
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: this is I'm guessing that's not part of the updown segment,

1337
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: but two thumbs up and you know, I'm always down

1338
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: for content. This is the thing I told Will. I'm like,

1339
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: you know, our next phase of our career is just

1340
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: we're going to be YouTubers who just like try ridiculous

1341
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: foods and different things. So like we'll dip everything in egnog.

1342
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'll do anything for a million views.

1343
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 4: You got it exactly right.

1344
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: We'll do anything for the views. Speaking of views, where's

1345
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: the best place for people to watch you, to hear you,

1346
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: to follow you, et cetera.

1347
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, follow me on Twitter, Steven Underscore Lebron do.

1348
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: I got to explain the name real quickly.

1349
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 3: It was my list of things to ask.

1350
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. First of all, people stop asking me this question.

1351
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 3: I make my guests. Yeah yeah, dude, Steve Nash Lebron James.

1352
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: I mean you've had it for a long time.

1353
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: No, no, no. So so here's what happened. So I

1354
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: used to work. I used to work. I used to

1355
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: be an accounting Okay, I used to be a chartered accountant.

1356
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: Real good boy. Parents are proud of me, even though

1357
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't a doctor or a lawyer. And and that's

1358
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: when Twitter's kind of sprung up, you know. Two thousand

1359
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: and eight, two thousand and nine ERA, and I was

1360
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: at my nine to five job. So when I signed

1361
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 2: up for Twitter, I actually didn't want my government name

1362
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: uh to be on there because I planned on just

1363
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: tweeting about how miserable I was at my job. And

1364
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: on the same day that I signed up, there was

1365
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: a USA Today headline that's at Cleveland's Lebron suspended fifty

1366
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: games for steroids, and it was one of the most

1367
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 2: click by headlines ever. Lebron was still in his first

1368
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: stint in Cleveland, and when you click on it, it's actually

1369
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: a Cleveland Indians Minor League pitcher named Stephen Lebron. So

1370
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,959
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like okay. I was like, okay,

1371
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: let me claim this across all platforms. And you know,

1372
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: I kept that name so then HR couldn't find me.

1373
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: You know, Hi, if you're trying to find me for

1374
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: my old job, statue of limitations is up. But like,

1375
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: you know, I'll be tweeting about my you know, I'd

1376
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: be tweeting. I'd be tweeting from like nine to five

1377
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: while getting my job done. For anyone who works a

1378
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 2: nine to five ofpus job, you know you only put

1379
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: in two hours of real work every day. That's how

1380
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 2: it works. But like so I've kind of just kept

1381
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: that handle since. But yeah, Steven Undersoil Lebron, you can

1382
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: follow the Raptor Show. We actually just recently got our

1383
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: own Twitter accounts, so it's the Raptor Show on Twitter

1384
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: and if people just want to look up the Raptor Show.

1385
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: You know, I really appreciate you guys showing love to

1386
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: the off season content. You know, uh uh Taz and Tray.

1387
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: But like you know, season starting now. Will and I

1388
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: just did a media day pod recap yesterday. We've got

1389
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: a lot of fun things coming up. You know, before

1390
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: we came on air, I just asked Trey and Taz

1391
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: to come on our show, so hopefully we'll make that

1392
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: happen to do a little NBA.

1393
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 4: Prob Now you asked this on the part, putting it

1394
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 4: on the record too, you know.

1395
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: You know, you know I'm a vet right, Well, contract

1396
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: podcast you actually made?

1397
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 4: Will delete the first tweet from the Raptors Show Twitter account.

1398
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so you are cuts micromanager.

1399
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what happened. So so I'm I'm the social guy. Okay,

1400
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 2: Like Will, Will you know you watch basketball, do your

1401
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 2: ex's and os because I could care less, Like you know,

1402
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm the social guy, you know, I give him the

1403
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: password and then you know, his his head's blown up

1404
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: because like he's getting notifications of the Raptor show. When

1405
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: we first started the account, like we hit like I think,

1406
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: like two thousand followers in like the first five minutes,

1407
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 2: and he was like, you know this that that ego

1408
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: was getting bloated. And one and what Will's like go

1409
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: to saying on the Raptor shows is hello and welcome,

1410
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: which has become like a thing that that fans latch onto.

1411
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 2: And a fan at him on Twitter and it was like,

1412
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: hey man, your first tweet's gotta be Hello and welcome

1413
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, that's sick. Like he was just

1414
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: coming off you know, Utah Watanabe like ghosting him for Ramen,

1415
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: so like he needed to pick me up. So he's like,

1416
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: let me get this engagement. So he just types in

1417
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: hello and welcome for no reason on a random Wednesday

1418
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: and it just tweets it out and like it got

1419
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: a lot of engagement. But then I pulled it up

1420
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: and it says this tweet has been deleted. I'm like,

1421
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 2: what happened. He's like, yo, that was dumb man like

1422
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: there was no context. I'm like, yeah, you're suspended two

1423
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: weeks from the account. So he's currently serving a two

1424
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: week suspension because we waited yesterday for me today until

1425
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: he took a photo with Chris Bouchet and then I

1426
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 2: tweeted it out with hello and welcome and that was

1427
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,479
Speaker 2: like a proper start to the account. So so Will

1428
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: is on suspension for two weeks, and you know, we

1429
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: might extend it further. It's gonna be one of those

1430
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: situations where he's going to have a disciplinarian you know, hearing.

1431
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it. But everybody followed the

1432
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: Raptor Show, and if you want to follow us on

1433
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: Instagram as well, Will is at will loo Fits. Don't

1434
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 2: DM him because I run the account and I'm at

1435
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm at Steve Lebron, please juice my numbers so then

1436
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: brands can put me back on the seating list.

1437
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: Well, get those numbers up. Absolutely, you're not gonna have

1438
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 3: to hear from Will at all if you follow the

1439
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: Twitter count for the next two weeks, but after that,

1440
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 3: who knows, who knows you might be saying hello and

1441
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: welcome to everybody. Alex, thanks so much for taking the time. Man,

1442
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna give away three copies you said of cover story.

1443
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 2: And in copies. Haven't told my publisher yet, but I

1444
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: know there's a bunch of boxes sitting in the warehouse,

1445
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: so we'll make it happen. However, you guys want to

1446
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 2: do it, just send me the addresses of the three

1447
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: people and we'll get copies out to them.

1448
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 3: All right, let us know your favorite slam magazine covered

1449
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 3: down in the comments below. We'll pick them randomly follow

1450
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: up with you with addresses, etc. Last question I got

1451
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 3: for you, the people wanted to know about your hat

1452
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 3: coming in. You've got a nineteen ninety two World Series

1453
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 3: hat on there. Are we going to be getting a

1454
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: rematch of the ninety two World Series?

1455
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: Yo? That could be possible and if that happens, I

1456
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: will be uh, I will be seeing you guys in person, probably, man.

1457
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 4: For sure, incredible, that would be phenomenal. We got the

1458
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 4: Murph Dog coming on to talk baseball tomorrow. As you

1459
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 4: guys call him Blake Murphy Dog. That sounds like a dog.

1460
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 4: Blake Murphy sounds very much a nickname like we would

1461
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 4: use because Murph.

1462
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 3: Dog, murf dog. Oh yeah, I got a Murph dog

1463
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 3: in my life as well. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow, ten

1464
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: am Eastern channel is good later on one pm? Is

1465
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 3: that right, Jady?

1466
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 4: That is correct?

1467
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: Rrect. Yeah.

1468
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 3: See the people wanted a planning pod. They didn't think

1469
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 3: they wanted to hear, but they did. Ten am Baseball,

1470
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 3: one pm. Is this opinions? Thursday? Survivor No Buffs. We

1471
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 3: won't talk about Big Brother Canada, No Offense, but we

1472
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 3: will talk about Survivor America. That'll likely be ten am

1473
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 3: Eastern on the No Buffs feed?

1474
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 4: Is that it well planned?

1475
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 3: Well? Good n everyone, Alex, thank you again so much.

1476
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 3: Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have a great

1477
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 3: time turn up. Love you guys awesome.

1478
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us, and remember all the brands

1479
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 4: out there listening. Alex Wong wears a size nine shoe.

1480
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: Am I right? How did you know that.

1481
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 4: I listened to the pods? And since we're going around

1482
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 4: the horn here, what are you wearing?

1483
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 3: Seventeen and a half.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen and a half of course of course.

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Speaker 2: Well let's sell for tops Hudium for story

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Speaker 3: Take care people,