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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: The acorns are falling around the country. Food sources seem

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Speaker 2: to be the key in mid to late September. But

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Speaker 2: are you on the right one. This is rut Fresh.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Everyone? This is ret Fresh Radio, brought

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Speaker 4: to you by First Light Year. I'm ca C. Smith.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Jones is here with me as well. And it's fall, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Some of y'all know. I might not know that, but

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Speaker 2: it's a pretty common terminology used around here because sept

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Speaker 2: Turn twenty second officially sent us into.

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Speaker 4: The fall season. If do with that, I didn't know that, yep.

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Speaker 2: And so fall you all for those open north, Yes,

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Speaker 2: so fall you all would be How you deconjunct?

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Speaker 4: That thing?

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Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 2: No, it's not a conjunction. What's the call when you

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Speaker 2: put a comment something sounds conjunction?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 4: I thought conjunctions were ambu or or I'm just wondering

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Speaker 4: what their function is.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on in the deer woods

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Speaker 2: right now, and one of the big things is that

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Speaker 2: deer seasons are opening up in a lot of places.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's there's quite a few spots around this

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Speaker 2: country that it just has around the first of October

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Speaker 2: that's the opening day of archery season, and that's a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun for us, and that's where we live too.

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Speaker 4: But there's more and more seasons open up around the country,

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Speaker 4: and you go from.

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Speaker 2: Having to travel eight to ten hours to find an

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Speaker 2: open season to being able to travel three to four.

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Speaker 2: So it puts a lot of deer hunting in a

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Speaker 2: lot of grasp for a lot of people, which makes

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Speaker 2: it even more intriguing to figure out what's going on

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Speaker 2: around the count tree. And I can tell you this

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Speaker 2: food seems to be the thing. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: this week remarked about food sources and how they're hunting

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Speaker 2: around that. You know, I think people want to focus

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Speaker 2: on sign a lot, and sometimes sign is hard to

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Speaker 2: interpret early season, it's hard to even find it, huh, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, it is one thing de you're not

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Speaker 5: traveling that far to get to food sources, usually when

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Speaker 5: it's hot and early, so they're not laying down a

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Speaker 5: bunch of sign on trails, they're not passing by a

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Speaker 5: bunch of trees to rub on. They don't really care

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Speaker 5: to rub a whole lot because they're testosterone is still

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Speaker 5: pretty low. They will hit licking branches here and there,

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Speaker 5: but you won't be able to see the scrapes still

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Speaker 5: in a lot of cases because they don't actually do

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Speaker 5: the palling and peeing part of that whole deal a

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Speaker 5: lot of times. And in fact, a few years ago

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Speaker 5: case found on some public in Illinois found a you know,

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Speaker 5: annually used you know, perennial scrape and it was the

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Speaker 5: it was still open underneath because it had been hit

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Speaker 5: so hard the year before, but it wasn't really being

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Speaker 5: used underneath. It was just being licked on. And we

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Speaker 5: of deer and nothing really scraped until October. So there's

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Speaker 5: just they're just not laying down much sign right now.

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Speaker 2: So so finding food is a big deal, and it

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Speaker 2: is the fall And I don't know if it's why

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Speaker 2: it's called that or not, but things start falling from

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Speaker 2: the trees, both leaves and more importantly for us deer hunters,

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Speaker 2: acorns or acorns or is there another way that people

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Speaker 2: say it too auckrons or something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I hope not on onions. That's a

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Speaker 4: big thing for a lot of popes that right now.

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Speaker 2: And I know around here we were eyes out doing

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Speaker 5: Is there like, uh, it's not crime scene investigation, but

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Speaker 4: Timber scene investigation. Okay, So.

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Speaker 2: There was already some red oak acorns falling. Now they're

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Speaker 2: it's still potentially a food source if the deer are

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Speaker 2: in rough shape. Thankfully, around here we've had just enough

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Speaker 2: he found a beauty berry that had a lot of

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Speaker 5: I hate they eat they're such they're actually really pretty

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Speaker 5: this time of year they are, and they feed the

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Speaker 2: Well, my dear, the uh but my deer a weird,

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Speaker 2: so you guess some weird Yeah, but I think that's

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Speaker 2: kind of the big thing if especially if you're hunting

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Speaker 2: public land, because often times, even if you're map scouting

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Speaker 2: and looking at a large piece of public and you're

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Speaker 2: looking at like a bed to feed this time of year,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people can look at the same map

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Speaker 2: set up near that and try to kill those deer

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Speaker 4: Sign if you can find it.

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Speaker 2: But even more so where food is in the trees,

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Speaker 2: in the thickets, then you have a chance to actually

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Speaker 2: of year, right, Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, daylight deer, they can be hard this time of year. Wow,

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Speaker 4: what a nice rhyme. I'm a little Limerick today, man.

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Speaker 5: I got the rhymes, I got the alliteration and all

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Speaker 5: the stuff going on. Yeah, they can be tough, man.

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Speaker 5: I don't really particularly love this time of year. If

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Speaker 5: the weather's kind of stagnant, but coming up in the

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Speaker 5: next week or so, things will change. But I know,

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Speaker 5: you know a lot of times too, depends on where

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Speaker 4: So it is, man.

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Speaker 2: There is some some weather systems we've around the country,

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna ask a few folks about that, depending

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Speaker 2: on you know, what's going on out there. We have

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Speaker 2: a hurricane that's brewing in the Gulf that might kind

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Speaker 4: How dear moving around what better?

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Speaker 2: Uh, But we're all still looking forward to better days.

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Speaker 2: So I would say just as a general thought, I

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Speaker 4: That's right, man, Yeah, that's right. Well, who we got

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Speaker 2: We've got Jeff Danker in Kansas of Buck Ventures. We've

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Speaker 2: He's of Love the Grind TV, Michael Pitt's Real Tree

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Speaker 2: Rob Mendoza of Tethered he's been hunting in Missouri. So

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Speaker 5: Right, I've got Jeff Danker from Buck Ventures on the

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Speaker 5: how's it going, Man.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, it's good.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 4: We're out here right now.

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Speaker 6: And you know, idea is, we've been waiting on this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear that, dude. We got a rain down

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Speaker 5: here in Texas today that we didn't know was coming.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I know exactly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we were praying for rain and literally, guys, we

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Speaker 6: which you know, we usually try to have them in

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep, I hear you on that.

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Speaker 5: Well, so you shot a door recently and you it

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Speaker 5: is pretty unique experience for you talk about that real week.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you when you see the footage, you'll see

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Speaker 6: that I got more excited than a lot of big

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet man, that's cool. That's cool. Well, that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: What was she doing when when you shore it? Was

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Speaker 6: Well, kind of what we're setting up on some of

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Speaker 6: some doze off property. And in yea, we were. She

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Speaker 6: was actually on a cut head feed field. It's kind

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I was just eating on grain and coming

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's cool, man.

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Speaker 2: So is that going to be kind of the strategy

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Speaker 4: Or does think do things kind of shift once you

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Speaker 4: start getting those frosts? Well, I mean I ain't.

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Speaker 6: I'm the guy that I'm just steadily moving cameras looking

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Speaker 6: going ahead and getting some dose done right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's really become more of my targeting.

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Speaker 6: Actually, one farm this year in particular, called the Wooly

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Speaker 6: Well, it actually is, man, I'm not dealt with a lot.

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Speaker 7: I hear a lot about it.

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Speaker 6: We all do the HD blue tongue whatever. And we

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Speaker 6: found a deer dead here recently at water we've called

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Speaker 6: the Wildlife Department that's had a deformed hoof, watching a

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Speaker 6: couple of other deer that are really sick on camera

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Speaker 6: or the Wildlife Department knows about them, and basically what

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Speaker 6: they try to do is just give the deer every

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Speaker 6: chance it can because you know, at times, I'm like,

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Speaker 6: you know, talking wildlife farms, like, look, do we need

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Speaker 6: to go on and shoot this deer suffering? And they said, well,

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Speaker 6: there's a chance these deer pull out of it. So

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Speaker 6: that's what we're trying to give these deer a fighting chance,

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Speaker 6: and you know, and just hoping that it isn't wide widespread.

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Speaker 6: I just don't know how severe it is, but it

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Speaker 6: definitely is something that keeps me not sleeping good right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet man, Well that's unfortunate. I know, with

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Speaker 4: Believe in change.

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Speaker 4: We got the change right now, and we got a

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Speaker 6: But if you really watch a barmeter right now, it's

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Speaker 3: More and more.

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Speaker 6: But I am so trying to look, you know, every day,

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Speaker 3: I hear you.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you had to put a number on buck

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Speaker 6: You know a farm that someone's out there, guys, that

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Speaker 4: All right. So scale of one to ten, what do

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Speaker 6: Scale of one to ten, I'm gonna probably still be

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Speaker 4: I like it. I like it cool.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: Well, I hope that the Lord's blessing is with you

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Speaker 4: Jeff, I appreciate you guys as always. This is Jeff

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Speaker 2: Jeff, you've been hunting in Wisconsin, You're headed at Kansas.

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Speaker 4: Life is good into your season, man, how are you.

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Speaker 8: I'm good, I mean, and I tell you what, it's

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Speaker 7: Riding the high from my Wisconsin hunting has been celebrating

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Speaker 8: Days and then a big Kansas buck decided to show up.

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Speaker 8: So I'm riding that high from the upper Midwest down

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Speaker 4: That's cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you killed a hammer there in Wisconsin, so

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Speaker 2: congratulations on that. And it sounds like to me, at

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Speaker 2: least just from what you just said, that that trail

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're a big part of our strategy, you know,

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Speaker 8: just as much when to hunt, but also you know

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Speaker 7: Know when to go in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I know it's from the pictures of that

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Speaker 2: plot stuff incorporated. Have you all been working hard with

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Speaker 2: you know, adding food to properties and is that a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's kind of our m O, right as the

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Speaker 7: That way, when an opportunity.

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Speaker 8: Like this last week presents itself, you know, we're in

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Speaker 8: You know, just about a half acre you know, big

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Speaker 7: To part you know.

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Speaker 5: Sure, so and that buck came into that to that plot,

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Speaker 8: So that specific day, uh, my camera guy Connor uh

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Speaker 8: And you know, we came to the conclusion that, hey,

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Speaker 7: Now keep in mind, this camera is faced to get.

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Speaker 8: We've got storms rolling in that afternoon, and chances are

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Speaker 7: That plot exactly how he exited it.

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Speaker 7: It was rumblin pretty good.

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Speaker 8: But I actually thought we were busted because I happened

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Speaker 7: He's at that time.

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Speaker 8: Twenty five yards away, ends up feeding twenty five yards

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Speaker 7: This is cool? This is a win.

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Speaker 8: This is a successful hunting itself. Right, Well, he turns

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Speaker 7: But the second I drew, he faced quartering.

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Speaker 8: Back to me, and I'm like, I can't take this shot,

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Speaker 8: I was at full draw for a little over three

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Speaker 7: I think I maybe said a few swear.

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Speaker 8: that shot. So I took that shot, and he probably

442
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 8: went all seventy or eighty yards and ironically enough, ended

443
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 8: up dying in what I feel is the bet that

444
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 8: he was in.

445
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 5: Really, man, how about that? That's incredible, dude. Do you

446
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 5: think in the next week, do you think that if

447
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 5: you were to hunt in Wisconsin there again, that those

448
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 5: Brasicas would still be the thing to do, or would

449
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 5: things change in the next week or so.

450
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 8: Honestly, we've been doing this so we run all sorts

451
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 8: of plots. We run our you know, Ryan Old's plots,

452
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 8: we run brassicas, we run radishes, we run our.

453
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 7: Corn or soybeans.

454
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 8: And what I'll tell you is it's based on the weather,

455
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 8: what's around, what you know, farm fields have to offer.

456
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 8: That particular spot, soybeans in the area had already yellowed,

457
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 8: so they had kind of transitioned to a green food

458
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 8: source because it's either you know, natural brows, acorns, et cetera,

459
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 8: or it's you know, finding something green or a hayfield.

460
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 7: Right, it's pretty warm out that day.

461
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 8: So that particular spot, I think that they're gonna be

462
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,479
Speaker 8: on Brassica's for a little bit longer, until it gets

463
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 8: even colder, and then they're not gonna leave Brasca's, but

464
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 8: they're gonna have their choice between you know, soybean pods

465
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 8: and Brassica's.

466
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, for sure.

467
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: So with the the concept of maybe a waning moon

468
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: involved with that, and in still you know, the beans

469
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: being yellow over the next week, do you do you

470
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: feel like buck movement is going to be good?

471
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 4: And then how would you rate it on a scale

472
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: of one to ten.

473
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 7: So, honestly, buck movement.

474
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 8: You know, we've got access to quite a few properties,

475
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 8: We're on a lot of cameras, We've planned a lot

476
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 8: of plots, so we've got a pretty good sample size.

477
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 7: And I would say overall deer movement.

478
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 8: Was really strong in the days leading up in the

479
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 8: days following my hunt, overall mature buck movement, I would

480
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 8: say I didn't I didn't notice a material difference.

481
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 7: I think the.

482
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 8: Hand that we were delts was just how lucky we

483
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 8: were to be able to see where he betted.

484
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 7: You know, take a look.

485
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 8: At our topography maps, no dear's tendencies know that, hey,

486
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 8: that's a mature buck. He's probably not going to go

487
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 8: another half mile at first light in the morning in September.

488
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 8: So I think I think where he chose to bed

489
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 8: is kind of what gave us the advantage of that hunt.

490
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 8: But you know, I don't have a lot of other

491
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 8: mature bucks, especially that caliber, that are just daylighting right

492
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 8: now we're leading up to the hunt, or we're following

493
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 8: the hunt, I think I think we got to get

494
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 8: to that first true October cold front or you know,

495
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 8: get a little closer to win bucks are really really

496
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 8: hitting scrapes to see those five and six year old bucks,

497
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 8: you know, consistently daylighting, right.

498
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

499
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: So on a scale of one to team, what do

500
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: you think the next week.

501
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 8: Will be, I'm gonna put that at about a five

502
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 8: or a six for the next week.

503
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 7: And that's all things considered.

504
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 8: That's that's weather, that's moon phase, that's you know, overall

505
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 8: deer inventory for what I'm looking at, how they're operating,

506
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 8: what's happening in egg fields around us, stuff like that.

507
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's still pretty good hunting, especially for

508
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: septimber Man. So I think that that's that sounds like

509
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: a great report dude, to really appreciate it, and I

510
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: hope you find some success out there in Kansas as well.

511
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 7: Thank your fingers across.

512
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 8: And if I happen to get an arrow in the

513
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 8: deer that I'm hunting tonight, I have a feeling We're

514
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 8: going to be doing this again.

515
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 3: Awesome, dude.

516
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: I've got Michael Pitts. He's been doing some hunting in

517
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: Georgia with the Real Tree Crew. How you doing, man?

518
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: Doing good? How about y'all?

519
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 4: We're doing awesome.

520
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 2: It's cool off a little bit around here, which makes

521
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: us all think about deer hunting.

522
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 4: Now. I know you're a kind of.

523
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: More east of where we're at there in Georgia, But

524
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: have y'all been experiencing some of this cool front?

525
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, we've got a cool front actually opening We came

526
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 9: in on the fourteenth and opening week was pretty cool,

527
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 9: but we've heated back up again and then we got

528
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 9: a hurricane coming through. Should be here really towards the

529
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 9: end of the Thursday, and temperatures are dropping with it.

530
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 9: It looks like temperatures are going to kind of stay

531
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 9: low from then to own. Hopefully we'll be out of

532
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 9: these heat waves. But it was like ninety three ninety

533
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 9: four yesterdays, ninety one today of a high, So we're

534
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 9: back in that heat spell. But hopefully it's not gonna

535
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 9: last much longer. We'll get that cool weather in here.

536
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: I bet you you know, at least throughout your life,

537
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 2: you've had some years where hurricanes definitely kind of affect

538
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: deer season.

539
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: How do deer react after them? Big storm events like that.

540
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 9: You know, I've never paid a whole lot of attention

541
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 9: to it because they are kind of few and far between.

542
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 9: But you know, typically in bed bad weather, a lot

543
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 9: of these deer will kind of hunk her down and

544
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 9: ride it out. But on the front side and back

545
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 9: side of it, it's almost like the deer can sense,

546
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 9: you know, bad weather or whatever, and they get on

547
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 9: their feet. So lots of times before storm can be

548
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 9: some really good good hunting because it's almost like they

549
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 9: try to stock up to weather the storm outs.

550
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 4: So on the front side can be pretty good pits

551
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: of the acorns falling.

552
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 9: Yet they're starting right now and that's starting to create

553
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 9: a transition. You know, around us it's legal debate, so

554
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 9: you know a lot of people run corn piles or

555
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 9: protein feed or whatnot around us. And what you'll see

556
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 9: during this transition phases, they'll start pullingto these oak bottoms

557
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 9: and these acrens and all and actually leaving the other

558
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 9: food sources. So we're getting a lot of them starting

559
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 9: to drop right now. Squirrels are cutting them down pretty good,

560
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 9: and they're starting to drop on their own a little

561
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 9: bit right now. So we're about to see a transition

562
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 9: for sure as far as the deer movement goes, because

563
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 9: they'll be pulling to those acres. That's one of their

564
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 9: favorite food sources.

565
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 7: In my opinion.

566
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: Sure, do you prefer white oaks or red oaks?

567
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 9: White around us tends to be the ticket. It's like

568
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 9: a dessert to them. So I'm always looking for for sure.

569
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Are the bucks split up from their bachelor groups or

570
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: are they still running together.

571
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 9: They're still running together a little bit right now. Of course,

572
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 9: about three weeks ago we still had deer and velvet,

573
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 9: so you know they're still bachelorred up and not seeing

574
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 9: a whole I'm seeing some scrapes, but I think they're

575
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 9: more it's not a rut activity scrape. It's more of

576
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 9: a communication scrape, I believe. And you're seeing some trees

577
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 9: rubbed just from getting the velvet off. There's really no

578
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 9: sign of rut activity right now because we're kind of

579
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 9: on that pattern with the Midwest where it's the first

580
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 9: week in Novemberville, so everything's kind of still bachelorred up

581
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 9: and just mainly hammer and seed right now.

582
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: That is, how are you just in your hunts? According

583
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: those acrens and stuff.

584
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 9: You're definitely gonna have to pull to the hardwoods to

585
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 9: get into them.

586
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: And it's a good isn't a bad thing.

587
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 9: If you've got a lot of acrons on the ground,

588
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 9: it can work against you a little bit because they

589
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 9: just kind of get out there and meander and those

590
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 9: oak bottoms and they don't follow a really consistent trail.

591
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 9: And I've always said in the past, you know, the

592
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 9: first two weeks the season are crucial because after those

593
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 9: first two weeks, if you don't have a buck on

594
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 9: the ground, lots of times just the rut before you

595
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 9: see them again, because once they figure out deer seasons

596
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 9: in they'll start, you know, going a little bit more nocturnal.

597
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 9: We call it the October lull around us based on

598
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 9: you know, when our rut is and all. So if

599
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 9: you don't get them there in those first two weeks,

600
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 9: lots of times it's late October first week in November

601
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 9: before you see those mature bucks back out there in daylight.

602
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 5: So based off the weather and they can just start

603
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 5: to drop and that transition that's happening. What do you

604
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 5: think buck movement will be like in the next week

605
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: or two. On a scale of one to ten.

606
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 9: I'm say buck movement next week is gonna be on

607
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 9: the scale of about a six, okay, just because they

608
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 9: know seasons in and they're gonna go nocturnal for a

609
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 9: little while. They'll be feeding a lot in these oak bottoms,

610
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 9: but a lot of it's gonna be done at night,

611
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 9: and they kind of go into that.

612
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 10: You know.

613
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 9: I know we're not in October yet, but that October

614
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 9: lowl will start in late September.

615
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: Let's just say that I got you. I got you.

616
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 3: Amazing, man.

617
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: The hunters hit the woods and them there definitely low

618
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: it up, don't they.

619
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 9: They figure it out real quick what's going on, and

620
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 9: they'll start first pushing more nocturnal.

621
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 8: Yeah.

622
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 4: Cool. So you appreciate the report, man.

623
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're you're honed in on them, and

624
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: I know that you'll find a couple of biggings for

625
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: seasons over.

626
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 4: So thanks so much.

627
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 7: Man.

628
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 9: Well, I've already got one in the bag.

629
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: I didn't know that or did you kill that, dear?

630
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: I killed it in Harris County, George. How about that? Man?

631
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: Look at you? Yep.

632
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 9: So I've only got one more tag left in here

633
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 9: here in Georgia, so probably gonna save it towards the rut.

634
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you, fellow.

635
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: This is Rob Mendoza with Tethered. He's been hunting down

636
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: in Missouri. Rob, what's up, bro?

637
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 7: Not much?

638
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: What's going on?

639
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: Hey, dude?

640
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: Just you know, actually having fomo because I haven't hunted

641
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: white tail deer yet this year and all these people

642
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: are getting to go to all these cool states like

643
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Missouri and go hunting deer and I'm just living vicariously.

644
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: Man. How's Missouri?

645
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: Uh?

646
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 11: Missouri is always a good time.

647
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 10: Deer in the truck or no deer this time unfortunately

648
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 10: no deer, but for my first six for the season.

649
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 11: It was just nice to be out in those woods.

650
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. So tell me, are you hunting a lot of

651
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: agriculture right now?

652
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: Or is the acron's already falling? Or kind of what's

653
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 4: what's the play?

654
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 10: So the spot that I was hunting in Missouri is

655
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 10: a farm, but it's not an ag farm. It's got

656
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 10: some hayfields. But for the most part this time year,

657
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 10: what I'm really keyed in on is the acorns dropping.

658
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 10: And it was nice because a lot of them dropped

659
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 10: last year, so they were really isolated this year.

660
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 5: What kind of acorns are you key on on this

661
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 5: farm in particular, are white oaks this time of year

662
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 5: and then later in the year.

663
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 10: You know, and they're looking for that late season food

664
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 10: source and just kind of picking clean the red.

665
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 11: Oaks, but this year mostly just focused on white.

666
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 5: Do those hayfields attract dear? They have stuff in there

667
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 5: that deer will feed in they.

668
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 10: I mean, the deer will go out there and feed,

669
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 10: but it's not typically you're not going to get a

670
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 10: mature butt going out into the hayfields, not in the

671
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 10: area I'm hunting around that time, because there's a lot

672
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 10: of pressure from neighboring farms.

673
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 11: So they typically like the stage up in the woods.

674
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 11: And definitely had a little bit different activity.

675
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 10: Going on last week than I have had in years past.

676
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 5: So what how do you how do you pick the

677
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: right oak tree? We get this question a lot.

678
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 10: Well, I went out there early season to kind of

679
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 10: see which trees were going to be dropping. You can

680
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 10: kind of tell by how the leaves are sitting, and

681
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 10: they just look the limbs look a bit weighted, more

682
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 10: weighted down. And then I just go out early morning

683
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 10: and I listen. I had a nice breeze kicking off

684
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 10: the first day I was there, so I just took

685
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 10: a little walk around the property towards areas. Listen, and

686
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 10: if I heard stuff dropping, I knew that was gonna

687
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 10: be a spot I was going to key on, key

688
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 10: in on later in the week.

689
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool.

690
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: I've never heard anybody say that, but it makes a

691
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: lot of sense, and it might be one of the

692
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: hottest tips we've had on here so far.

693
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: So way to go.

694
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, call me hot tip Mendoza.

695
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: Really, that's cool.

696
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: So it sounds like you have some history on this property.

697
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: How much does like historical data play into your moves

698
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: early season?

699
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 10: So for early season, I don't have much historical data

700
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 10: going on in that area, and I only just started

701
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 10: running cameras last year. Before I was always kind of

702
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 10: just mobile hunting on public land and maybe throw a

703
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 10: camera off while I was in that area for that hunt.

704
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 11: But this year I came into this.

705
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 10: Property and I set up a handful of cameras early on,

706
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 10: and my tactic was a.

707
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 11: Lot different than I thought. I thought I was just going.

708
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 10: To go for the evening hunts for the most part,

709
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 10: but what I noticed is there was a lot more

710
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 10: midday activity, even on days when it was ninety degrees out,

711
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 10: So that's when I put the majority of my focus

712
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 10: was being out there just after when I thought they were.

713
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 11: Going to bed, avoiding those betting.

714
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 10: Areas, but then getting in between the feed tree and

715
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 10: where their betting areas were as long as the wind

716
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 10: was right. And it didn't work out every single day

717
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 10: as far as see and deer. You know, you can't

718
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 10: control the wind, unfortunately, but I was consistently getting bucks

719
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 10: hitting this one particular spot anywhere from noon until three

720
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 10: o'clock in the afternoon, and also focusing on wind shifts.

721
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 10: I had a handful of days where the wind shift

722
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 10: in midday, so setting up on that off wind and

723
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 10: just hoping to catch them in transition. I did see

724
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 10: some immature box, some two three year olds, but not

725
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 10: the one that I was.

726
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 11: Really key on getting after.

727
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: So, Robot, you call yourself a morning person.

728
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 11: As far as hunting goes, just in life, hmmm, yeah,

729
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 11: I got two kids under three years old.

730
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 10: Man, I'm awake every minute of the day kind of person.

731
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: Good, Okay. So I've heard some people in the past

732
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: emphasize arriving later in the morning, and sometimes that correlates

733
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: with people who like to sleep late. And I wanted

734
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: to just test your honesty a little bit on the

735
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: later morning thing. But it's sincere, so you'd be up.

736
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: But it's it's there is really a an emphasis on

737
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: being there for the midday movement, which is cool, and

738
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: I've seen the same thing sometimes, especially it seems like

739
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: this time of year the deer are very much on

740
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: that like five feed and bed instances throughout the day,

741
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: you know, so you see that like the two or

742
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: three daylight movements. And I don't know, man, I don't

743
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 2: hardly ever try to capitalize on that midday thing too much,

744
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: but I think it's interesting that you saw like Bucks

745
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: doing that while you were there.

746
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was pretty surprised by it too, And I

747
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 10: don't know if it was just something that was out

748
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 10: of the ordinary for this time of year, or if

749
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 10: that says how they behaved because I've never ran cameras before,

750
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 10: so I was never really up to date on what

751
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 10: those Bucks were doing midday on that property. So I'd

752
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 10: be interested to test that theory out over here in

753
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 10: New York a little bit this season.

754
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: Would you change the way that you hunted if you

755
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 5: were back in Missouri this week.

756
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 11: Yes, I would. I would one hope that I had

757
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 11: a different wind.

758
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 10: The wind was definitely working against me this season or

759
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 10: this season, this early season, but I think that I

760
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 10: would focus a little bit more on the midday hunt.

761
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 11: Then I gave it credit for this year.

762
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 10: I saw that there was something to it, but I

763
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 10: wasn't sure if it was just an anomaly. But even

764
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 10: since then, my cameras have still been going off midday.

765
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 10: I might try to pick a different feed tree.

766
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 11: I got a little bit.

767
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 10: Married to the spot that I was at, So I've

768
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 10: been told that happens when you're running cameras.

769
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can for sure I got you.

770
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 5: So in the next week, if you had to rate

771
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: book movement on a scale of one to ten, what

772
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 5: would you think.

773
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 11: Oh, I put it in a solid six to seven.

774
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 10: At my spot in southern Missouri, at least if anybody's

775
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 10: in that area. The heat honestly doesn't seem to be

776
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 10: messing with them all too much.

777
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: It's like almost the South, you know what I mean.

778
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 11: It's almost the South. I think that's what they call

779
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 11: it in the in the books.

780
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 4: Anyway. Yeah, that's right.

781
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate the report, man, and I hope that

782
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 5: you get them next time. You get down there in Missouri,

783
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 5: me too.

784
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: Good luck everybody, man.

785
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: We actually have some fairly optimistic hunters on our hands

786
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: around here. Yeah, I think that the scoring system is

787
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 2: always skewed, if I can be honest, the Midwest six,

788
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: it is Midwest sixty, but it's almost like country wide

789
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: six at this point in time.

790
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 4: Country must be country wide, you know what I'm saying.

791
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: Come on, So no cover route intended.

792
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: I just don't feel as if it's a six compared

793
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: to a November six. Maybe it's a six for the

794
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: last week of September, you know what I mean. We

795
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: should be more clarified on our our scale system. But yeah,

796
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: that might be true, might be a little bit more

797
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: explanatory with exactly what we're defining here. But if even

798
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: if it is just for the week of September, a

799
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: six is pretty good for last week of September, you know. So, uh,

800
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: you should be optimistic. Don't take time off. But if

801
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: you already got it, or you already got a deer,

802
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: you got patterns. Get after him this week. Speaking of

803
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: getting after it, Tyler Jones is an adventurous sort, and

804
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: he went up to North Dakota Chase Bucks around up there,

805
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: spend a little time in the.

806
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: Mud and the kayak, and.

807
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 5: The more you in the tree and what not to do,

808
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 5: the better you get it something.

809
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you got you were on the bucks either way,

810
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: I guess.

811
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: So if you want to go watch that adventure, it's

812
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: on the Element YouTube channel. We'll put a link below,

813
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: as well as a link to Tony Peterson's most recent article.

814
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: It's about blood trailing deer, and I'll get you the

815
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: title here. Three blood trailing mistakes that could cost you

816
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: a buck. You don't want to lose a buck, so

817
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: go read Tony's article about that. He knows a thing

818
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: or two about tracking deer. Guys, I appreciate you all listening.

819
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: We're getting towards the best part of the year. It's

820
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: coming soon.

821
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: Be ready.

822
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: Listen to these reports, make some good decisions, and remember

823
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: this has been rough.

824
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: Fresh, keep it fresh.

825
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 8: S