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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Lake Cake Is Live. It is

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, March fourth, deerfr Lord twenty twenty one. Jam

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Speaker 1: packed as always. We remind you, as I have pretty

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Speaker 1: much every show for like a month now off season,

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Speaker 1: not real, merely a figment of your imagination. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna prove it to you again tonight because we have,

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Speaker 1: as I said, once again, a jam packed show. I'm

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Speaker 1: also going to do a little housekeeping in about thirty seconds,

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Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. I mean, what else do

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Speaker 1: you have to do over the next thirty seconds. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot of quarterback battles going on coast to coast.

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Speaker 1: All the major programs, or at least a critical mass

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Speaker 1: of the major programs, the ones that you would figure

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Speaker 1: to be Tier one, tier two, in some cases tier

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Speaker 1: three contenders. They have got quarterback situations to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Mind you, we don't call them controversies here, just competitions.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to discuss that. We're also going to

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Speaker 1: discuss what in the world Dan Mullins doing at Florida.

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Speaker 1: There's just I don't know, some things that don't quite

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Speaker 1: seem right there. So I thought we needed to take

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Speaker 1: is Clemson Mood Tracker Night on the show, and we're

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Speaker 1: also going to revisit something I put out on Twitter

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Speaker 1: a little bit earlier today as I was outside jogging

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Speaker 1: getting a sunburn, by the way, in Nashville, the same

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Speaker 1: city I built a pretty impressive snowman in last week.

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Speaker 1: By the way, as I was getting that sunburn today,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, let me pop this out

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and just ask people maybe if they're in

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Speaker 1: the thought. We're going to go to the end of

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Speaker 1: the show, so you have plenty of time to think

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Speaker 1: about it, if you're watching live or if you're listening

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Speaker 1: on the recorded version or on podcast. What would your

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Speaker 1: ideal college football playoff be? But not as a fan.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you run the entity that owns the college

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Speaker 1: football playoff. Don't you have to be ESPN. You bought it,

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Speaker 1: you own it, You paid all those billions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: Now you want to maximize the return on your investment.

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Speaker 1: Then think to yourself, which programs would you want in there?

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Speaker 1: I had my take. I'll give it to you a

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Speaker 1: We didn't get any submissions for Western Michigan, Kent State

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Speaker 1: all the time, so you got the general concept. But man,

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Speaker 1: there were some swinging philosophies on this, and I don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily know if they were of the most sound business mind.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, it's your contract, it's your playoff. So before

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Speaker 1: we dive in tonight, I want to remind you, as

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Speaker 1: I told you I would do the Late Kick Zoom Special.

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Speaker 1: We have a fancy title for it, Colin. We just

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Speaker 1: arrived at the title like ten minutes ago, so we

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Speaker 1: think it's really fancy. This is going to go down

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Speaker 1: Monday night. It's not gonna be live. We're going to

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Speaker 1: record it Monday night. It's going to be very laid back.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be Q and A, and it's going

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Speaker 1: to be you and I talking face to face or

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Speaker 1: as close as we can get to it during a pandemic.

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Speaker 1: So email me Josh pat seven zero six at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com if you want in on this, we're going

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Speaker 1: to have somewhere between ten and twenty of you. We're

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Speaker 1: Producer Jordan, who does a wonderful job on the Late

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Speaker 1: Kick podcast, he is going to moderate this. It's still

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Speaker 1: You know how we feel about production having their faces

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Speaker 1: seen around here. But get your email submissions in. We're

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Speaker 1: night and basically what it's going to be. It can

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Speaker 1: So We're not doing favoritism around here, but we're looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that because that's something we've been working on

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Speaker 1: be a different outcome, But you guys want more teams

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Let's see all these teams Ohio State, Oregon, LSU, Michigan, Texas,

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Speaker 1: This is probably one of the most consequential quarterback battles

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Speaker 1: That doesn't always mean everything, because this time last year

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Speaker 1: throughout all this with these quarterback competitions For all I know,

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Speaker 1: it was probably the single biggest I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say laps in, Jeff. It was just a lapse in

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Speaker 1: Dan Mullen's coaching career because what he allowed to do,

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Speaker 1: which you can't have happen ever, but especially with the

432
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Speaker 1: stakes that high and the safety net under you completely gone,

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Speaker 1: you can't no show those games, or worse, you can't

434
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Speaker 1: allow your team to show up thinking all right, well

435
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Speaker 1: are helmets here? So will win this thing cause we're

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Speaker 1: twenty four and a half point favorites. It's not the

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Speaker 1: way it works. They had seen Alabama splatter LSU all

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Speaker 1: over Tiger Stadium a couple of weeks earlier. But yet

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Speaker 1: you remember the pregame there. Nick Saban walks in and says,

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Speaker 1: we think LSU believes they got a shot to beat

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Speaker 1: us tonight, So we're gonna have to change the way

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Speaker 1: they think. Like Alabama was a death machine when they

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Speaker 1: came into LSU. Florida showed up for like a carnival.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the mood. That was kind of the

445
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Speaker 1: way they carried themselves. So LSU gets up on them.

446
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Speaker 1: You remember the infamous you throw, But man, like that

447
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 1: game never never belonged in the balance. Marco Wilson should

448
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Speaker 1: have been able to throw that shoe out of the

449
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Speaker 1: stadium if you wanted to. It should have never decided

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Speaker 1: that game. So then that happens, but it wasn't over yet.

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Speaker 1: You also remember several really weird postgame interactions and comments

452
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Speaker 1: throughout the season. I dressed as Darth Vader. By the way,

453
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Speaker 1: at one point, I'm not a big Star Wars guy,

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Speaker 1: so that meant me the wrong way. And then you

455
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 1: had the situation against Oklahoma. Once you have lost the

456
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Speaker 1: opportunity to go to the playoff, once you've lost the

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Speaker 1: SEC Championship, you go up against Oklahoma, you have massive

458
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Speaker 1: amounts of opt outs, and then you tell the assembled

459
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Speaker 1: media there afterwards, well, you know, this wasn't really Florida

460
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Speaker 1: who played today. Florida's last game was in the SEC Championship,

461
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Speaker 1: which was really a pathetic thing to say. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if that's the way you felt. That's a pathetic

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Speaker 1: thing to say. And so here was my conclusion for

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Speaker 1: all this. Yeah, I acknowledge all that happened. I think

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Speaker 1: there's a very obvious reason why it happened, and it's this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Dan Mullen planned on being the Florida

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Speaker 1: head coach in twenty twenty one, whether he ended up

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Speaker 1: getting the attention he thought he would from the NFL

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Speaker 1: or not. I think he thought he was going to

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Speaker 1: get it. And it's the same way if you were

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Speaker 1: of any age out there, you've probably been a senior

472
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Speaker 1: in high school at some point in your life, and

473
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: that last semester, your senior year in high school, you

474
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Speaker 1: know the disease. It's called senioritis. Pretty Much all of

475
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 1: us who aren't trying to get into Harvard have had it.

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Speaker 1: Dan Mullen had it last year. Dan Mullen really didn't

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Speaker 1: pay much attention to what the consequences were going to

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Speaker 1: be for the way that he talked or the way

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Speaker 1: he carried himself, because he knew two things, or at

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Speaker 1: least he thought he knew two things. One, we're winning

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Speaker 1: on the field. Who cares. I got a quarterback that's

482
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Speaker 1: about to be a Heisman finalist, We got a shot

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Speaker 1: to win everything we have never won here before under me.

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Speaker 1: And number two, I ain't going to be here next

485
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Speaker 1: year anyway. Well, they didn't win those things. Kyle Trast

486
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Speaker 1: didn't win the Heisman, and Dan mullin steer there at

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Now, you guys hopefully never had to

488
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Speaker 1: repeat twelfth grade. Well, Dan Mullen, he had the senioritis.

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Speaker 1: But yet now he has to come back, and he

490
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Speaker 1: doesn't come back to a loaded roster either. He comes

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Speaker 1: back with a team full of question marks. There is

492
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Speaker 1: no contract extension. That's the other really underlying issue. It's

493
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Speaker 1: kind of simmering down there right now. Again, if you're

494
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Speaker 1: at Northwestern or Utah and you just acknowledge Florida's existence,

495
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Speaker 1: but you don't really follow the program, you probably haven't

496
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Speaker 1: heard about this. But Dan Mullen is a lot closer

497
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Speaker 1: to the end of his contract than most major head

498
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Speaker 1: coaches get. I think he's three years away from the end.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a long time, you know, Like in

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Speaker 1: our business, we work on two year contracts most of

501
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Speaker 1: the time. Well, in the head coaching industry, it's a

502
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Speaker 1: little bit different. There are a few more zeros and

503
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Speaker 1: there are a few more bits of security added into

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Speaker 1: those contracts. Well, Dan Mullen, he's kind of been vocal

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Speaker 1: in guarded terms, but he's kind of in vocal in

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Speaker 1: the preseason or in the lead up to spring about

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Speaker 1: how he's not happy with it. But you know that

508
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Speaker 1: administration also has spoken through action. They haven't extended him,

509
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Speaker 1: so obviously they want to see more. They're not overly

510
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Speaker 1: thrilled with the way that last season went. And so

511
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Speaker 1: we arrive at twenty twenty one. You got to obviously,

512
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: offensive line has always been an issue for them. You

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Speaker 1: got to completely rebuild your defense and retool rather your defense.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if all those guys would have come back.

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Speaker 1: And also you got Embory Jones at quarterback now. So

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of things to figure out here

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Speaker 1: for Florida, and you have, again the backdrop of now expectation.

518
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Speaker 1: And so Dan Mullin had a couple of double digit

519
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Speaker 1: win seasons where they didn't accomplish what they wanted him to.

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Speaker 1: Jesse's showing you right now, think about this. Twenty eighteen

521
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Speaker 1: they go ten and three, they finished seventh, and then

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen they go eleven and two and they finished sixth,

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Speaker 1: and so what was the talk? The talk was all right,

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Speaker 1: So we've gotten to a couple of New Year's six games,

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Speaker 1: We've won double digit games. We've won both the New

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Speaker 1: Year six games. What is left to accomplish aside from

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Speaker 1: a national title, what we need to accomplish is we

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Speaker 1: need to beat Georgia. We need to win the SEC East.

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Speaker 1: And the true irony in Atlantis fashion here is that

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Speaker 1: the year where they accomplished both those, it's by far

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Speaker 1: the least attractive looking year on this chart that Jesse's

532
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Speaker 1: showing you. They go eight and four last year and

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Speaker 1: they finished outside the top ten. They lose embarrassingly against

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Speaker 1: Oklaore Home and the Cotton Bowl. So now where are we?

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Speaker 1: I leave the segment the same way I entered the segment.

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Speaker 1: You tell me I will. I will be glad to

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Speaker 1: read your submissions, especially Florida fans in the comment section here.

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Speaker 1: I did the Mood Tracker a couple of weeks ago.

539
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Speaker 1: Enough has changed since then that I thought we needed

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Speaker 1: to revisit Florida. Where is Florida and Dan Mullen entering

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one? Your guess is as good as mine.

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Speaker 1: The Mood Tracker series continues tonight. Mood Tracker has been

543
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: really fun. But I'll tell you what we haven't hit.

544
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Speaker 1: We have not hit the Clemson Tigers yet, so we

545
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: got to do Clemson tonight. Very simple one here. I

546
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Speaker 1: did not even need to go to the boards to

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Speaker 1: get this one because I know exactly where Clemson is

548
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Speaker 1: because I talked to a lot of Clemson fans. In fact,

549
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Speaker 1: per capita, I would imagine I talked to as many

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Speaker 1: Clemson fans outside of like the teams I used to

551
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Speaker 1: cover Georgia, Alabama, Auburn. Probably talked to as many Clemson

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Speaker 1: fans as any collective fan base out there. And I

553
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Speaker 1: think right now the way that I want to sum

554
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Speaker 1: up the mood for Clemson is Phase two entering. Phase two.

555
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Speaker 1: Talked about this a little bit on the lake Kick

556
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Speaker 1: Extra podcast this morning, but I wanted to go in

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Speaker 1: depth a little bit more tonight. One of my favorite

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Speaker 1: movie posters of all time is A River runs through

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Speaker 1: It with Brad Pip. It's a guy fly fishing, thinking Montana,

560
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: somewhere in an area where I'd love to live one day,

561
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: and it's just a guy. It's just a silhouette and

562
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Speaker 1: he's fly fishing, and you know, the line is whipping

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Speaker 1: through the air, and the caption on the movie poster says,

564
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: nothing perfect lasts forever except in our memory. I bought

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Speaker 1: the movie poster before I had ever seen the movie.

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Speaker 1: That's how much I love the movie poster. It hung

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Speaker 1: on my wall in my bedroom my entire childhood, and

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Speaker 1: so I eventually saw the movie. Good movie, I'd recommend it,

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Speaker 1: but I really recommend. The poster had silence of the Lambs, Jaws,

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Speaker 1: Mystic River and a river runs through it. Big river

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Speaker 1: theme there, big water theme. So Phase one was great.

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Speaker 1: What do I mean by phase one with Clemson. When

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Speaker 1: you're building a dynasty, it happens in phases, and Clemson's

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Speaker 1: Phase one is complete. Phase one included them getting to

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Speaker 1: three National Championship games. They won two of them, and

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Speaker 1: I was there for every single one of them. So

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Speaker 1: I've been I have had a front row seat for

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Speaker 1: the rise of Clemson into phase one of their dynasty.

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Speaker 1: And I can call it that this has been one

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Speaker 1: of the best programs in America for quite a while now.

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Speaker 1: They built it their way. They built it the Clemson way.

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Speaker 1: They overcame that clemsoning Moniker. They didn't like that up

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00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: there very much, so they got over that in a

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Speaker 1: big way. It seems like no one ever left, like

585
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: all their talent return but all their coaching staff returned,

586
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: and they were always ultra motivated when they would show up.

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00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: They perfected peaking at the right time in the postseason.

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00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: They had it seemed all the first world They had

589
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: basically the first world luxury without the first world problems.

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Speaker 1: So they were having all the first world college football luxury,

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00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: but they didn't have mass exodus of coaches. And they

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Speaker 1: basically accredited that and attributed that to running their program

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Speaker 1: a different way, which I don't knock. I actually think

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of validity to that. But Phase one

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Speaker 1: eventually had to come to an m I would argue

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Speaker 1: about this even back when I was doing the Independent

597
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: show on YouTube and I was down in Columbus and

598
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: I was doing a TV show down there. I would

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00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: argue with some of our callers about this because they

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00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: could never envision things changing. They thought that status quo

601
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: was always going to be status quo, and if Clemson

602
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: ever fell, it was going to be because they screwed

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00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: up something internally, or Dabbo left and went, I don't know,

604
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: to Alabama or the NFL or something like that. You

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00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: cannot continue to just exist in Phase one because the

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00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: very nature of Phase one brings consequences with it, and

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00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: so those elements force you to go into Phase two. Well,

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00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: phase two is where Clemson's at right now. That don't

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00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: really mean you get knocked off your perch. But I

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00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: always talked about the difference in the fuel that was

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00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: used to power Clemson into and through Phase one, and

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00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: it was my biggest overarching question around the program. That

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Speaker 1: was what was going to happen when that fuel burned off.

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00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: The fuel that Dabbo used was pretty unique. It's not unique,

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00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: it was unique onto maybe Alabama that had previously been

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00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: there as the other existing dynasty in college football, and

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00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: that fuel was doubt. That fuel was disrespect us against

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00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: the world, all the motivation in the world, as long

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Speaker 1: as you climb in the mountain, and it worked. They

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00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: faced Alabama and they beat them once, they beat them twice.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they had really good results. But then they

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00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: eventually got to the mountaintop, obviously, and then a lot

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Speaker 1: of that fuel ran out. I thought this was really

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00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: on display this last year when they got blown out

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00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: by Ohio State. And I'll talk about that in a second.

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00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: But so this was to me, the transition from Phase

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00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: one to Phase two for Clemson, when no one doubted

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00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: you anymore. That in and of itself changes the formula.

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Speaker 1: It changes the blueprint with which you used to get

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Speaker 1: where you are. It's why I noticed a big difference

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Speaker 1: in the way Dabbo was doing things and Saban was

632
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: doing things. The reason Nick Saban stayed on top of

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00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: the sport for a decade and a half now is

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00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: because they've never relied on externals. They just kind of

635
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: focus on themselves and it's all about process, process, process,

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00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: And that sounds boring, but here's the beauty. You never

637
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: have to have anyone doubt you. You never have to

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00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: be an underdog, have to have bulletin board material because

639
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: your kids aren't trained to use that as their source

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00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: of motivation to begin with. Well, Clemson, Dabbo, they found

641
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: it necessary to go about it a different way. That's fine,

642
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: it worked. This is not a dude who kept coming

643
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: up short. They've already won two championships. They played for

644
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: more than that. But now I think they're in phase two.

645
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 1: So phase two is when you have everyone's attention, you

646
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: are no longer anyone's underdog. And also the start to

647
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: creep in some of these factors, try as you might

648
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: to keep them out. Nothing perfect lasts forever. And so

649
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: another point that I've made for a couple of years

650
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: now with Clemson is, as you'll notice, they are recruiting

651
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: higher rated classes on average than they have under Dabo

652
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: and really under anyone prior to that. And so now

653
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: what you have to guard against, and it's pretty much

654
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: impossible not to let some of it in. What you

655
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: have to guard against is once upon a time, when

656
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: they started this run, it seemed like everyone in that

657
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: locker room had the collective mentality of what can I

658
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: do for Clemson? All those kids were all in for Clemson. Well,

659
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: then you get a lot more attention. Clemson did not

660
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: used to go to California to get players. They do.

661
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: Now they can go coast to coast and get any

662
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: players they want. I know about their filters and recruiting.

663
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: I know about how high their standard is. I haven't

664
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: preached to me all the time. I am just trying

665
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: to be real with you. You cannot stop the following

666
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: element from eventually creeping into your locker room, and that

667
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: element is the shifting of the mentality of what can

668
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: I do for Clemson? Two In some cases, what can

669
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: Clemson do for metural It's inevitable. If you're recruiting like

670
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: they are, it's inevitable. That doesn't mean kids are selfish,

671
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: but it does mean that maybe they're wired just a

672
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: little bit differently. And that edge that you used to

673
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: always be able to count on, and that hair on

674
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: fire mentality that you used to always be able to

675
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: count on. Did it look like they had it against

676
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State this past year. No. Now you could also

677
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: turn that around and you can say, I remember, not

678
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: too long ago. It was just twenty eighteen. We were

679
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: out in California and we were watching Clemson do the

680
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: exact same thing to Alabama and a championship game that

681
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State just did to them. That's right, that's right.

682
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: And if you were watching me at the time when

683
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I was independent, I was talking all year long about

684
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: those dynamics that had crept in for Alabama because people

685
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: around the program, even as they were raided in the

686
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: top three all year and they were en route to

687
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: winning the SEC and they were winning a semi final

688
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: game and they were going to the title game, their

689
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: internal dynamics sucked. They didn't like them. Nick Saban didn't

690
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: like that team. It was just not a good mixture.

691
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: They were so talented, just raw talent got them to

692
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: the title game. But then they came up against a

693
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: team that was totally all in, really talented, true freshman quarterback.

694
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: Maybe you've heard of them, Trevor Lawrence, and they splattered

695
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: Alabama that night, and you'd rarely say that about Alabama. Well,

696
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: then two years later, it happens to Clemson with a

697
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: bunch of the same players on the field. What happens, Well,

698
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: what happens is the dynamics change. I don't care if

699
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: you get I don't care if you get twenty two

700
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: combined returning starters from last year's team. You don't get

701
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: the same team back. Okay, So things change constantly, these

702
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: little dynamics, just these tiny shifts here and there. You

703
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: never know if one guy coming into your locker room

704
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: impacts ten other guys in a slightly negative way. And

705
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: so I say all that to say this, Now you

706
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: get to see Dabbo for really the first time in

707
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: his career, and it's several years in. Now have to

708
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: make a fundamental adjustment. This is, in my opinion, what's

709
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: happening at Clemson right now. A fundamental adjustment. I told

710
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: you the hiccups were coming column A fundamental adjustment. Not

711
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: in culture. They've got that as close to perfected as

712
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: any university in America has. They don't change culture. What

713
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: they kind of change is, you know, maybe the paint

714
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: job that's on top of the foundation, and maybe they

715
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: want to change the garage door, some cosmetic and esthetic changes.

716
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: You just have to subtly, I think, shift the way

717
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: that you go about motivating and fueling your team because

718
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: it no longer comes from everyone's doubting you little old

719
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Clemson US against the world. There's one other factor, surprisingly

720
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: in this entire run that is not crept in to

721
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: be an issue for them, and that is no one

722
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: in the ACC has stepped up. It's been several years now,

723
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: no one in the ACC has stepped up. That's one

724
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: thing Saban was never really able to say, like, even

725
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: though they've been parent only the most dominant team in

726
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: the SEC, they've been beat down there like Auburn stepped

727
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: up a couple of times, Lsu stepped up. There have

728
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: been challengers to Alabama. George's pushed them to the wire

729
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: a couple of times. There have been challengers to Alabama.

730
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: No one stepped up, and the best guess around here

731
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: right now is North Carolina. But we'll see. You know

732
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: that they've got it to do. We'll see. But right now,

733
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: I think a shift to phase two of the Clemson dynasty,

734
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: and make no mistake, it still is one. They haven't

735
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: gone anywhere. They're going to be right in. The National

736
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Championship makes again this year. It's probably going to require

737
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: a little bit different, just a tweak of the Clemson

738
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: formula in order to pull the National Championship off this year.

739
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: And that's part of what makes sports beautiful. No one

740
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: stays the same. When you're beating on someone. There's very

741
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: little incentive for the sport to just sit still and

742
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: let you beat on it. No one was going to

743
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: sit still forever. Things were going to adjust. Everyone's focus

744
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: was going to go to the abuser. In this case

745
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: it's Clemson, and so well, what do you know, the

746
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: sport changes and all of a sudden, what worked for

747
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: you perfectly three years ago, oh not kind of works

748
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: And so that's sports man like, it's not a video game,

749
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: it's real life. That's how it works. Or let's wrap

750
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: it up with this, Yeah, good, show about the right time.

751
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: Earlier today on Twitter, I put something out and I

752
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: asked you, if you ran a network, if you owned

753
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: the college football Playoff contract, forget about being a fan,

754
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: which four teams would you want to be in there?

755
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: This may be a good time if you're watching the replayer,

756
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 1: you're just watching the individual video, to maybe hit pause

757
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: and think about this for a second. You own the contract,

758
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: you got skin in the game. You're looking for maximum

759
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: return on your investment. Which four teams? And part of

760
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: the caveat here is you can't vote to expand the playoff? Okay,

761
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of you trying to circumvent the

762
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: rules of this. No, we're going four teams the way

763
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: God intended the playoff to be, and you're picking them.

764
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: Who do you want in Now? I'm going to tell

765
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: you what my criteria were, and then I'll give you

766
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: my four teams. So I wanted big brands, big logos

767
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: in there. Essentially, I wanted national appeal. I wanted as

768
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: many regions represented as possible, so coast to coast, broad appeal.

769
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: I wanted to mix in some new blood here and

770
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: one of the teams that haven't been there in a

771
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: while and I wanted to keep the goliath in, so

772
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep Alabama in. So here are the

773
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: teams I went with, and the order matters here because

774
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: I was trying to set up my semi final games

775
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: in a perfect combination. So I went Alabama, Ohio State,

776
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: Texas and USC my one, two, three, and four, which, obviously,

777
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: as you're seeing on the screen right now if you're

778
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, that means I'd have Bama USC in

779
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: one semi final and I'd have Ohio State Texas in

780
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: another semifinal. This fits all my criteria, by the way,

781
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: because I got one or two mega brands here that

782
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: haven't been there in over a decade. Texas has not

783
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: been in the playoff ever. Last time they played for

784
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: a title was an nine think USC maybe five, is

785
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: that right, the last time they played for a title.

786
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: So neither of those have been there. There's no excuse

787
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: why they haven't, but yet they haven't, and so half

788
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: the field is new blood. But also what we have

789
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: here is we have a couple of opportunities for major brands,

790
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: national brand to try and knock off Alabama. Now the

791
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: possible substitutes as you're looking at these four teams the

792
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: possible subs, and some of these are valid. A lot

793
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: of you wanted Oklahoma in instead of Texas. The reason

794
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: I went with Texas is for the more broad national appeal.

795
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's been there before, Therefore you don't get that new

796
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: blood factor. And also, I think it's a huge deal

797
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: to potentially see a Sark versus Sabin matchup at some

798
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: point it would be the national championship game. But man,

799
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: if you give me an opportunity, again as a TV executive,

800
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: if I'm owning this and you give me an opportunity

801
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: to have the Texas Longhorns and the college Football Playoff,

802
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: I'm not passing that up. Oklahoma or not, I'm not

803
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: passing that up. Also, and this is really probably the

804
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: most popular form of feedback I got. Where is Notre Dame.

805
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with having Notre Dame in here. It

806
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: was probably interchangeable for me as to whether Ohio State

807
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: or Notre Dame or Michigan or Penn State was going

808
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: to be my team from quote unquote the Midwest. Now

809
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: I think Michigan. Someone pretty much talked me into today

810
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: Michigan being a more valid submission than Ohio State and

811
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: the thinking there was not that they have a bigger

812
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: fan base or a bigger brand, But what are you

813
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: losing if you put Michigan in over Ohio State. Nothing.

814
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, every Buckeye fan that watches when they're in

815
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: is going to watch when Michigan's in, for obvious reasons.

816
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: But then also you get even more new blood in.

817
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: You get Jim Harbaugh in the College Football Playoff for

818
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: the first time ever. Obviously, you have the Midwest and

819
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: the Big Ten represented, So I think that would be

820
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: a really good submission. Notre Dame's a good submission, obviously.

821
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: I just wanted more new blood, like Notre Dame has

822
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: been there a couple of times, and also, for better

823
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: or for worse, when Notre Dame has gotten in the playoff,

824
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: a lot of you know what to expect or think

825
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: you do, and you've got reason to think that way.

826
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: So far you've been right, and so I just think

827
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: the new blood factor, you could go with Michigan. I

828
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: went with Ohio State just because it's the bigger brand.

829
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: But I understand that point. Here's the one I did

830
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: not go for. There were a lot of people who said, no,

831
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of Alabama fatigue. Therefore, let's

832
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: get an another Southern team and you took like LSU

833
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: or Georgia. That doesn't work for me. First off, I

834
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: gotta have Nick Saban in my playoff because I want

835
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: to maximize my value. There is no brand that carries

836
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: more consequential weight nationally than Alabama. Very few people indifferent

837
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: on them. People either love them or they hate them.

838
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: They are basically now the New England Patriots of college football.

839
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: Everyone's got an opinion of them. And the second thing

840
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: is why would I want to exclude the program and

841
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: the coach that are on top of the sport right now?

842
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: Like Alabama is a massive draw, and if they're not,

843
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: it's because they're skull dragon folks. So if I get

844
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: them in a semi final against USC, and again let's

845
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: just assume all these teams are good, then we don't

846
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: have a seventeen point spread in any of these I'm

847
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: going to get them against USC and then they win

848
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: that game. I'm gonna have either Bama Ohio State or

849
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Obama Texas in the championship game. I want Alabama in

850
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: there by a sizable margin. Right now, in terms of

851
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: national appeal, it's Alabama and then everyone else in the SEC.

852
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Georgia wouldn't be a big draw, but

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Speaker 1: Georgia is still becoming a national television brand. Bama is,

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Speaker 1: like LSU, has a ways to go before they are

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Speaker 1: truly a national TV brand. But people in Seattle, Miami,

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Speaker 1: New York, la Omahon, everywhere in between care about Alabama,

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Speaker 1: so I couldn't leave them out of my playoff. The

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Speaker 1: biggest gripes that a lot of you have, aside from

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Speaker 1: the ones I just mentioned, was there's no Florida team here.

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Speaker 1: That's true, Okay, if you want to throw Miami in there,

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Speaker 1: you go ahead. There was also no East Coast representation,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of you threw on your TV executive

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Speaker 1: hat and you talked about all the major markets up

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Speaker 1: and down the Eastern seaboard and you said, don't we

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Speaker 1: have to put like a Virginia or a Clemson in here?

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Speaker 1: And my answer is no, I don't have to. The

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Speaker 1: side note that a lot of you had was I

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Speaker 1: would rather sacrifice the West Coast to get another Southern team,

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Speaker 1: or an East Coast team, or a Big ten team,

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Speaker 1: even in the playoff. And I understand that I'm taking

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a risk there, but I think

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Speaker 1: having someone from the LA TV market and a nationally

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Speaker 1: relevant again USC would do more than a lot of

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Speaker 1: you realize. I don't know if you, if you're of

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Speaker 1: any age, you know it wasn't that long ago when

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Speaker 1: USC was running college football, And it wasn't that long ago,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the days of Matt Lioner and Reggie

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Speaker 1: Bush and Pete Carroll. I don't know how many of

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Speaker 1: you paid attention to overnights, you know, Nielsen overnight ratings.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day. USC was like an NFL team

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Speaker 1: playing college football. When USC is relevant, like when people

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Speaker 1: truly believe they're capable of winning a title, everyone cares

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Speaker 1: about Southern Cal too. It becomes a very polarizing program

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Speaker 1: cause a lot of people who you know good and

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Speaker 1: well could not name the right guard on that team

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Speaker 1: at their life depended on it end up showing up

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Speaker 1: on the sideline and you get a lot of that

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys type treatment for USC. So if USC is

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Speaker 1: good and for my purposes as a TV executive, they

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Speaker 1: would be here. I think it would be a cash

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Speaker 1: in situation for me again running JP Sports, not Jefferson pilot,

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Speaker 1: but JP Sports, so I would go Bama, Ohio, State, Texas, USC.

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Speaker 1: You can let me know. I'm probably looking forward to

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Speaker 1: the comments on this particular segment more than any we've

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Speaker 1: done tonight. You let me know. I don't just want

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Speaker 1: to know your four teams though. Give me some logic

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Speaker 1: like if you throw if you throw Washington in there,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, give me some logic behind her. Really appreciate

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Speaker 1: you watching tonight again. Make sure you like the video

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Speaker 1: part of next week's first ever Late Kick Zoom Spectacular

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Speaker 1: to be named, by the way, got a good name,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it. May need to get a graphic

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Speaker 1: dot com is the way you can get touch with me.

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Speaker 1: We are out of here, a nice clean show tonight

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Speaker 1: in forty minutes thereabouts, So have yourselves a great weekend

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Speaker 1: for director Emeritus Colin here in Nashville, for Jesse and

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Speaker 1: Crue up in Connecticut. I'm Josh Pate. Have yourselves a

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Speaker 1: great weekend and God bless