WEBVTT - An Unlikely Affair: Mercury Retrograde Made Me Do It

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Amber, Hilalah, Welcome to an Unlikely Affair.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning everybody. Welcome to another episode of an Unlikely Affair.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Loala, Oh Puffy Puffy first, Hello Amber.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm excited for this one. Oh man, I am

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<v Speaker 2>so stoked. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Today we have Jill Winterstein on the podcast and if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know her, you're going to and you will

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<v Speaker 3>thank us later. She is someone who has helped millions

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<v Speaker 3>of people reconnect with themselves through astrology. And it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like a psychic where she predicts the future, but she

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<v Speaker 3>has tools to help you with your healing, your self awareness,

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<v Speaker 3>and really just your spiritual growth. She is the founder

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<v Speaker 3>of an amazing company and brand called Spirit Daughter. She's

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<v Speaker 3>a best selling author and a spiritual teacher who has

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<v Speaker 3>built an incredible community by making astrology just feel not

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<v Speaker 3>like woo woo crazy stuff, it's like deeply human and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>She's going to read your chart, your natal chart, in

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<v Speaker 2>my natal chart.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh, because we're doing a podcast swap today, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, that's right. Thank you for doing a swap.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a good swap. All right, let's bring her in, Jill.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited to have you on the podcast. I

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<v Speaker 3>have been following you on Instagram and like, you're my

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<v Speaker 3>daily dose of spiritual astrology and I've become a little obsessed.

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<v Speaker 3>But first I want to ask you something. You were

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<v Speaker 3>a neuroscientist before.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, that's my my background's in. Yeah, that's what I studied.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a norwege and a next researcher. Like this

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<v Speaker 4>is like over twenty years ago, so it's like a

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<v Speaker 4>previous lifetime at this point, and then I did a

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<v Speaker 4>whole bunch of other crazy stuff in between, you know

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<v Speaker 4>that and this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is so incredible to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So then what made you want to do the switch

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<v Speaker 1>over to astrology? And basically, I mean what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably don't realize this, or maybe you do, but

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<v Speaker 1>like really healing people's souls.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I always wanted to do that in some way.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that reframe of astrology. You know, I started

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<v Speaker 4>out in like I got into astrology when I was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>So I was a kid, you know, I just was

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<v Speaker 4>like a hippie hippie kid, and I would just go

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<v Speaker 4>to the woods with my crystals and my astrology books

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<v Speaker 4>and smoke weed and you know, vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Out my girl.

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<v Speaker 4>Where did you grow up outside of Philadelphia? So Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 4>So I was like in the woods of PA and

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<v Speaker 4>like astrology wasn't cool back then. This is like nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>ninety six, so there was no Internet, there was no

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<v Speaker 4>social media, there was no spirit daughter following obviously, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you know, I was time to go to school,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, my mom was like, you got it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't go to school for astrology. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you're right. So I went to school for

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<v Speaker 4>psychology and then that landed me in studying neuroscience because

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, let's figure this out. And I really

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<v Speaker 4>was like on a quest to find out, like what

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<v Speaker 4>is human consciousness? Like why are we the way we are?

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<v Speaker 4>Why do we think the way we think? And that's why,

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<v Speaker 4>like it all kind of fit, like everything I've done

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<v Speaker 4>fits in that wheelhouse of like oh yeah, we're just

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<v Speaker 4>understanding human consciousness right through the lens of astrology, through

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<v Speaker 4>the lens of psychology, through the lens of neuroscience, through

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<v Speaker 4>the lens of Chinese medicine, aw Youurvedic medicine, like drugs,

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<v Speaker 4>pot LSD, like just whatever, like throw it all in there.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just looking at you know, human consciousness.

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<v Speaker 3>So do you think that Okay, So if you started

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<v Speaker 3>first in studying, like you know, playing with crystals and

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<v Speaker 3>understanding the power and where they come from, and then

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<v Speaker 3>going into neuroscience, do you think that that solidified? Did

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<v Speaker 3>that help amplify your belief in astrology?

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<v Speaker 4>I think so. I mean I think that I think it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have an amplify my belief, but it gives

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<v Speaker 4>me like an interesting perspective because I believe in astrology.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of the day, though, I believe in

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<v Speaker 4>the power of our minds, and like our brain is

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<v Speaker 4>like the single most powerful tool we have, and so

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<v Speaker 4>if we believe it, it's real. And so when you

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<v Speaker 4>pair that out with something like astrology, and like a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of astrologers who use it as predictive or as

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<v Speaker 4>like doomsday or as this is the way it has

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<v Speaker 4>to be, I'm very much like, no, this is just

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<v Speaker 4>like a lens to view yourself through, and like choose

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<v Speaker 4>what you want and choose what works for you. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I think that's why my account's done so well,

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<v Speaker 4>because I put a very positive spin on like everything,

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm like, you know, if what we believe happens, like,

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<v Speaker 4>let's believe the best possible and you know, learn about

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<v Speaker 4>our son's signs and be like what resonates with me

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<v Speaker 4>from that? And what do I want to believe I'm

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<v Speaker 4>capable of through the lens of astrology.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that because lately I don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's I just had my birthday this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, happy birthday. I have your chart, so it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you. Oh yeah, that's right, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I have been struggling, like I've gone through some shit

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<v Speaker 3>in my life and I've struggled. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing it all over again. But it's now being condensed

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<v Speaker 3>in like three weeks. And this was prior to me

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<v Speaker 3>realizing it was Mercury was in retrograde?

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<v Speaker 1>But why why does it feel so heavy for our listeners?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain what it means? Because you see it

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<v Speaker 1>all over when that happens, like Mercury's in retrograde? Can

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<v Speaker 1>you break that down for dummies? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Mercury first of all all planets station retrograde point

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<v Speaker 4>throughout the year, except for vnsmrs, they kind of usually

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<v Speaker 4>skip a year, but they also station retrograde, just not

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<v Speaker 4>every single year, so it's not specific to Mercury. Mercury

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<v Speaker 4>just has like a really great PR person. And I

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<v Speaker 4>always say this because it's just like that's all me

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<v Speaker 4>here about. It happens three times a year, so it

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<v Speaker 4>does happen often than any of the other retrogrades, and

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<v Speaker 4>it lasts for about three weeks. And Mercury is the

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<v Speaker 4>planet of communication, so it rules exchange of energy, tech education,

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<v Speaker 4>leaving this whole setup we're doing now, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 4>speaking with each other. We had appointment times, meeting times,

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<v Speaker 4>like that's all under Mercury's umbrella, you know, all the

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<v Speaker 4>tech involved, zoom, any kind of like platform. That's why

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<v Speaker 4>they tend to go down during Mercury retrograde. Retrograde energy

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<v Speaker 4>spins the energy of a planet inward, and so when

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<v Speaker 4>you're working with Mercury, which is a very outward facing energy,

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<v Speaker 4>it spins an inward and kind of like creates some

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why it seems like everything technological breaks down,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, or we miss meetings or this misunderstandings or

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<v Speaker 4>miscommunications or text texts, you know, you know our ex

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<v Speaker 4>texts us back. It's like a little tongue twister there.

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<v Speaker 4>So that like all you know happens during mercury retrograde

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<v Speaker 4>every time, and I hear about it is the is

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<v Speaker 4>the planet actually moving backwards?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>And so when you look at the sky it looks

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<v Speaker 4>like Mercury is moving backwards, it's actually not. It's an

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<v Speaker 4>optical illusion. So it's when like you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 4>passing a car, or like two trains are passing each

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<v Speaker 4>other and you're on one and just as like the

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<v Speaker 4>one car train like overtakes the other, there's like that

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<v Speaker 4>split second or it seems like it's moving backward. That's

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<v Speaker 4>that's the phenomenon of mercury retrograde. So it's it's an

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<v Speaker 4>optical illusion, and everybody kind of blames becomes this catch

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<v Speaker 4>all bucket where it's like anything that goes wrong, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>mercury grade. And so it is this like time to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of throw everything in that bucket. And I have

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<v Speaker 4>definitely seen in charting it where it's like oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that tech issue comes up, Oh yeah, like misunderstanding and

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<v Speaker 4>like oh yeah, the X resurfaces from the past, like

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<v Speaker 4>always throwing mercy retrograde. So I think some things are like,

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<v Speaker 4>there's something to this, and I think other things are, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got like something happening, Like let's just blame that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hormones too. It's either mercury or it's my hormones.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my two options.

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<v Speaker 4>That's your two options, and it's probably both and they're

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<v Speaker 4>working together.

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<v Speaker 1>We just like to blame something for when we're feeling off.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, And it usually is a lot deeper. There's

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<v Speaker 4>usually like something in your charts, Like when I do

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<v Speaker 4>natal chart readings, I'll usually find it. So what I

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<v Speaker 4>really like to look at is the current sky. So

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<v Speaker 4>murcury retrograde's happening now, we have some interesting things happening

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<v Speaker 4>with a lot of the other planets, and I look

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<v Speaker 4>at that and how that's hitting and affecting your chart.

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<v Speaker 4>So mercury retrograde this time around is happening in cancer,

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<v Speaker 4>and so Amber, you're gonna feel it more because it's

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<v Speaker 4>happening in your sun placement. Your sun sign is cancer,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it doesn't always happen in cancer. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the next one won't be in cancer. But when mercury

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<v Speaker 4>retrograde happens in your sun sign or a sign that

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<v Speaker 4>you have a lot of placements in, say your mercury,

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<v Speaker 4>your venus, whatever, then you're going to feel it a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more than a murcury retrograde that say happens

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<v Speaker 4>in like scorpio or virgo. You know, so because that

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<v Speaker 4>those aren't your sun signs.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, just like like feelings, this is gonna pass, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not ninety seconds, it's like three weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna pass. It's gonna pass. And you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a perfect, perfect thing. I have that tattoo on

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<v Speaker 4>my arm this too, shell pass because it all my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>Used to say. I love that you have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it also goes back to what you were

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<v Speaker 1>saying about the mind being one of our most powerful tools.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you have to kind of tap into that. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are moments where I have to remind

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<v Speaker 1>myself that if my mind is powerful enough to take

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<v Speaker 1>me to a dark place, is certainly powerful enough to

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<v Speaker 1>take me out of it, right, And it's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to put that to use though, And I love that

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<v Speaker 1>you that you brought that into play. Is if we

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<v Speaker 1>believe it, then it's real.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean if we believe it, it's real.

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<v Speaker 4>Our brain doesn't know the difference between what we're imagining

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<v Speaker 4>and reality. And so this is where I love intention setting,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what you know I do mainly on the

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<v Speaker 4>New Moons is you know what I'm known for is

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<v Speaker 4>setting intentions and working with visualization. And when we set intentions,

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing something really powerful, like not only are we

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<v Speaker 4>working with the new Moon energy, but we're working with

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<v Speaker 4>our brain. And so a lot of what I've come

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<v Speaker 4>to do is pair lunar manifestation, so working with the

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<v Speaker 4>lunar cycle to manifest and neural manifestation, which is basically

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<v Speaker 4>training your brain to create something in your life and

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<v Speaker 4>believe that you're capable of doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you give me an example of setting intentions?

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that sounds like you so stupid, Amber, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm a fucking weird Okay, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to go over them at the end of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I am such a but honestly, like I think, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I get confused by the word intentions and if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to confuse maybe other people are. So will you

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<v Speaker 3>give me just one example of what setting an intention

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<v Speaker 3>would sound.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah. So the way I set intentions is I'll

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<v Speaker 4>lead people through an exercise where they see themselves six months,

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<v Speaker 4>a year, five years sometimes if needed, and you know

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of varies by the person, but generally on

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<v Speaker 4>a new moon, I'll say six months to a year,

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<v Speaker 4>and you see yourself in a scene where what you

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<v Speaker 4>want has manifested. You're there and you use all of

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<v Speaker 4>your senses, so you know, you see the room, you

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<v Speaker 4>see the colors, you feel the texture of your clothes,

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<v Speaker 4>your pasture, how you feel emotionally. That's so key because

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<v Speaker 4>that sensory input to your brain is very important. And

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<v Speaker 4>so when you feel gratitude and you feel happiness, your

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<v Speaker 4>brain kind of flags that like, oh, let's confirm this,

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<v Speaker 4>let's make this happen. This is real, and so so

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<v Speaker 4>holding that vision and that's what that holding the vision is.

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<v Speaker 4>But you move throughout your day, for instance, you taste

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<v Speaker 4>your coffee, you you know people you're talking to, check

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<v Speaker 4>your phone, you see your bank account balance, like whatever

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<v Speaker 4>you're trying to manifest, right, it's in the vision. And

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<v Speaker 4>and then you hold that and you rehearse that over

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<v Speaker 4>and over again. The point is to feel the feeling

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<v Speaker 4>to get into the frequency. And so the vision itself

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<v Speaker 4>is really a container for how you want to feel

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<v Speaker 4>and the frequency of the vibe you want to be

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<v Speaker 4>at and exist at. So, if you want to be

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<v Speaker 4>in a frequency of abundance and you want to feel

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<v Speaker 4>financially stable, which you know, we get a lot like

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<v Speaker 4>people either want money, they want relationships, health, or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they want to be thin, right, and so that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like that's our buckets of manifestation and what I

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<v Speaker 4>get the most questions about anyway. And so if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to get into that vibration of say, abundance, like

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<v Speaker 4>you want to feel it, what does that feel like?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a certain home you live in? Is that

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<v Speaker 4>how you feel when you do open up a bill,

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<v Speaker 4>like what does that feel like? And you go through

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<v Speaker 4>each of the points, And it's not that you're intending

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<v Speaker 4>for all these detailed things to happen specifically, sometimes they do,

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<v Speaker 4>but what you're really intending is to feel that way, right,

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<v Speaker 4>to feel abundant. And so it's not necessarily like a goal.

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<v Speaker 4>It's different. It's not like, oh, you know, I want

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<v Speaker 4>the house with the bathtub, you know that looks like this,

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<v Speaker 4>I want the relationship that checks all these boxes, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's good to have that detail, but what you're really

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<v Speaker 4>focused on is the feeling. So it's like the vision,

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<v Speaker 4>the checkboxes, like they all contribute to the feeling and

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<v Speaker 4>that's what you're really holding when we say hold the vision.

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<v Speaker 4>So we set the intention and then you hold the vision.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'll actually coach people in staying with that

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<v Speaker 4>vision for thirty days where they're just in the vision

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<v Speaker 4>every day. They downregulate their nervous system, because we can't

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<v Speaker 4>manifest from an upregulated, dysregulated nervous system. We need to

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<v Speaker 4>be relaxed. And so that's great because people are often

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<v Speaker 4>asking me manifest like some horrible thing. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>because you're probably like in flight or fight when you're

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about that horrible thing. Right, Oh that's interesting, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And so that always makes people feel a lot better

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<v Speaker 4>because the power of our mind, right, our power to

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<v Speaker 4>manifest anything is scary, and that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that comes up a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny. That just made me think.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember I heard someone saying like, if you're just

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<v Speaker 3>having a bit, it's like sometimes it's hard to be happy,

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<v Speaker 3>like you were just human in some days it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not happy. But they say, like if you

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<v Speaker 3>were to grab a pen and you put it in

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<v Speaker 3>your mouth and you force yourself to smile, it sends

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<v Speaker 3>the chemicals in your brain, yeah, that you're smiling, and

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<v Speaker 3>so eventually your state changes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you believe that or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>I do are laughing, Like if you just fake laugh

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<v Speaker 4>for like a minute, then you're happy. It's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, skipping. Have you ever tried to skip when you're upset?

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately takes you to like a really like goofy and

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<v Speaker 1>childlike state where you can't not laugh and smile.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that's actually hysterical.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that. But we can't always be happy all

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<v Speaker 4>the time. And I don't think that's the point right

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<v Speaker 4>where we have a full range of emotions for a

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<v Speaker 4>reason and we want to explore them all. I think

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<v Speaker 4>what's important is to remember that they all pass and

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<v Speaker 4>we're not our emotions. You know, these are just things

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<v Speaker 4>coming in and out, feelings, vibrations, sensations that are just

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<v Speaker 4>they're not who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know because when you think about it, any

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<v Speaker 1>time you're feeling any emotion other than like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>good and happy. Like the quickest thing to go to

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<v Speaker 1>is like how do I how do I get happy?

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<v Speaker 1>Or people asking what can I do to make you happy?

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<v Speaker 1>And there Amber and I are both in the program

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<v Speaker 1>of sobriety and we go through all of these steps

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<v Speaker 1>and do our thing. But there are moments where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>today's just a shit day, and I'm going to lean

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<v Speaker 1>into that, and I'm not. I don't need to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to like happy because I'm a person

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm affected and maybe I can't pinpoint why. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow's a new day, and this too shall pass.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Tomorrow's a new day. And you know, there's just

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<v Speaker 4>a range of emotions. It's just sensations. Right at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day, there's just energy is moving through you.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think as humans were so quick to

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<v Speaker 4>label positive or negative, I oh, I feel sad. I

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't feel that way. That's bad. You know, I have

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<v Speaker 4>to get happy. And people around us are like, what

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<v Speaker 4>can I do for you to get you out of this,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, well, sometimes part of the process of

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<v Speaker 4>being human is just to sit with the energy of sadness.

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<v Speaker 4>And let it move through us and maybe it unlocks something,

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it unlocks a new level of our inner knowing

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<v Speaker 4>or an intuition. Our intuition is felt, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it goes with all the other emotions we have to

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<v Speaker 4>feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>But that starts at a very young age if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have parents that teach you that it's okay to

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<v Speaker 3>be upset or okay to have feelings. And that is

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<v Speaker 3>probably why that so many of us walk around dysregulated

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<v Speaker 3>or on antidepressants or whatever it is, because it's like

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<v Speaker 3>we have a hard time experiencing. I mean, just for

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<v Speaker 3>me being when I'm in a relationship, it's like when

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<v Speaker 3>the other person's having a bad day, I'm so quick

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<v Speaker 3>to take that on. And now I'm learning I could

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<v Speaker 3>let them have that experience and still be okay over here,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah right, and just be you know, of support in

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the way they need.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to start sending our kids into the

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<v Speaker 1>woods with crystals. It sounds like, yeah, I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>had that big crystal collection before I moved to Montana.

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<v Speaker 3>You should have seen my crystal collection. It was massive,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I had to get rid of it because

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<v Speaker 3>I was afraid they were all going to break in

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<v Speaker 3>the move.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, you can move them, Jill.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question because my the first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>asked when I start talking to a new man is

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<v Speaker 1>what is your what's your sign? And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people look at you like, actually, this is the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>one I get.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, you're one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of those, and I'm like, yeah, because I fucking refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to date in ares me too, I'm you too, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a boarding mission. How accurate is the compatibility with signs?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say? Because I know that there are usually three.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you have your sun, your moon, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>rising and they all come into play, and I'm into

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<v Speaker 1>all of it, but let's just keep it basic. The

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<v Speaker 1>sun what we all came into the world as. How

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<v Speaker 1>accurate is that?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's pretty accurate if we look at it

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<v Speaker 4>as like the core of who you are. So we

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<v Speaker 4>have the rising sign, which is how you dawn on people.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what's rising through you. That's like kind of what

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<v Speaker 4>you project outward and then and that's also what we're

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<v Speaker 4>learning in a lot of ways, like we're rising into

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<v Speaker 4>our rising sign. The sun is the core of who

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<v Speaker 4>we are, so it's the center of us it's what

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<v Speaker 4>keeps us together, and so we do want to look

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<v Speaker 4>at that in terms of compatibility. The moon sign I

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<v Speaker 4>find to be very very important with the compatibility because

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<v Speaker 4>the moon is our emotions. The Moon's who you are

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<v Speaker 4>when no one's watching. It's who you are when you're

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<v Speaker 4>sitting around, you know, eating ice cream, watching TV and

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<v Speaker 4>your pajamas on the couch. And so that's why that

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<v Speaker 4>can be so important for relationships because that's how we

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<v Speaker 4>interact with people, That's how we tell people what we

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<v Speaker 4>need emotionally, that's how we vibe emotionally with others.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's their moon sign. Sorry, just to clarify the

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<v Speaker 3>relaon sign, got it?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, so you want to know it all, but

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<v Speaker 4>like on a first can you know you might not

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<v Speaker 4>want to ask them their birth time and like pull

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<v Speaker 4>up your charting app on.

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<v Speaker 2>The first day.

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<v Speaker 4>I totally have. I obviously have call your mom. I

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<v Speaker 4>need I need the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I have done that before and clearly the relationship didn't

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<v Speaker 3>work out because they were like, dude, that's a red

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<v Speaker 3>flag for ren for it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A red flag that you can't ask your mom for your.

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<v Speaker 2>Both time and place.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I'm saving us all time. Guys, let's just be real, like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's just cut down to the chase. I'm not asking

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<v Speaker 3>for your tax returns. I'm asking for your which, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, maybe I should, by the way, yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, So I do think that anybody can be compatible,

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<v Speaker 4>no matter of their signs. What the signs can show us, though,

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<v Speaker 4>is where the work can be. And and then it's

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<v Speaker 4>up to us to be like, do we want to

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<v Speaker 4>put in that work? Do I want to date and

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<v Speaker 4>areas who might only think about themselves and put themselves first?

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<v Speaker 4>Do I want to do that kind of work right

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<v Speaker 4>now in my life? You know? And so that's really

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<v Speaker 4>the reframe on compatibility. It's not that there's signs or

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<v Speaker 4>moon signs or rising signs that are not compatible. It

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<v Speaker 4>just depends like, Okay, do I want this kind of

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<v Speaker 4>growth edge? Do I want this kind of mirror in

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<v Speaker 4>my life? And there are certain signs that do that

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<v Speaker 4>for each other. And then there's certain signs that just

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<v Speaker 4>are very harmonious and everything's great, and you may want that,

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<v Speaker 4>you may not want that. Like sometimes we're in a

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<v Speaker 4>season of life were like no, I want my mirrors.

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<v Speaker 4>I want people who are going to confront me on

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<v Speaker 4>my bs. I want to grow here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've done enough growing. Yeah, I'm all grown out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done. Get them away from me exactly. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>dive in. Let's start with law.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, so Virgo. So when I look at like

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<v Speaker 4>for compatibility, the easiest quickest way to do it is

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<v Speaker 4>by element. And so if you're like, okay, I want

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<v Speaker 4>somebody who I'm going to get along with, you go,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a Virgo. That's an Earth sign. Let me date

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<v Speaker 4>other Earth signs, right, so let me look at you know, Taurus, Capricorn,

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<v Speaker 4>other Earth signs, and so that's like sort of just

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<v Speaker 4>the step one, right, you can try, you can experiment with,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you can you want to take notes like

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<v Speaker 4>this is where my sign background comes in, where it's

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<v Speaker 4>like observe, see what it's like when you go to

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<v Speaker 4>dinner with the Capricorn, see what it's like when you

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<v Speaker 4>go with a Tarus or a Virgo. Kind of keep

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<v Speaker 4>that note for yourself, and then do try and find

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<v Speaker 4>out their moon sign and be like hmm, okay, well

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<v Speaker 4>the Tara's sun sign was great, but the Tar's sun

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<v Speaker 4>sign with the moon and Aquarius, like, well, that actually

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<v Speaker 4>might vibe for you because you haven't moon in Aquarius,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know that might not work in that configuration, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and with those pairings. So so it's you know, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of understanding where to start and then taking your own

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<v Speaker 4>notes and understanding like how the energies hit you and

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<v Speaker 4>how certain people. Because our birth charts are so complex,

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<v Speaker 4>there's so many placements and there's so many nuances, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's why like when you want to get real real

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<v Speaker 4>serious or real real crazy, however you want to look

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<v Speaker 4>at it, you like get a consultation with an astrologer

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<v Speaker 4>and you go, okay, put these birth charts together, and

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<v Speaker 4>let's look at how we're interacting, Like how are our

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 4>venuses interacting, how are our mars interacting? How are you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like you want the full range of all the placements?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that that is the human design? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people are really into like the human design right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They break all of those things down.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, human design is different. That's like, are you talking

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<v Speaker 4>about like manifesting, generator and projector that. Yeah, so those

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<v Speaker 4>are two separat things different. Yeah, yeah, so human design

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<v Speaker 4>is a different system. What I'm talking about is you

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<v Speaker 4>actually like take your birth chart, which is a picture

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<v Speaker 4>of the sky when you were born, so and it

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<v Speaker 4>includes everything, So it includes not just your sun, your moon,

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<v Speaker 4>but where was Mars, where was Mercury, was mercury retrograde?

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<v Speaker 4>Where's your Jupiter? Right? Jupiter is currently in Leo right now,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know what's going on with all of your placements.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we're going to put the two charts together

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<v Speaker 4>of two people and we're going to see, like how

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<v Speaker 4>do they interact? Like maybe the sun signs are quote

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<v Speaker 4>unquote not compatible, but maybe the venuses are conjunct. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you guys both have the same moon sign, so you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna understand emotionally, right, So you might find like an

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<v Speaker 4>aries with the moon and Aquarius, and you might be like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's my person Like even though they're an aries, like

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 4>our moons get along. What suggest that combo? My first

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 4>husband was that combo not great, but he.

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<v Speaker 1>Had his son in Like for me, sun and aries

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<v Speaker 1>red flag, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I even need to continue talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I find that my sun and my rising are

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<v Speaker 1>in constant conflict. Okay, my moon because Virgo, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm very particular. I can be very grounded and logical,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I have my scorpio rising, so I become

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<v Speaker 1>very spicy. I can shoot my guard up really quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, and attack and sting. But then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very very emotional, so all of the I'm like I

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of the day, I'm fucking exhausted.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, it's like a roller coaster when you have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of water, but you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>all the elements. So when you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>water and then you also have uh earth, right, you're

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<v Speaker 4>kind of making mud in your chart, what did I say?

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<v Speaker 4>And so it's always a purifying process, and it's always

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<v Speaker 4>the process of like the Lotus trying to come through

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<v Speaker 4>the mud to find the light. And so it can

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<v Speaker 4>be a hard journey in life when you have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of earth and a lot of water, because you're

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<v Speaker 4>just you're mud, right in a good way. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>MUD's detoxicizing.

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<v Speaker 2>Scene with the mud, like that's what I feel.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel muddy, yeah, And so you just have to

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<v Speaker 4>like keep you know, you want that picture of the Lotus,

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<v Speaker 4>and you want to also understand like MUD's detoxifying. Right

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<v Speaker 4>when we go get like a mud bath, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>detoxifying for his skin and it's good and it's purifying,

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<v Speaker 4>and so a lot of this lifetime for you is

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<v Speaker 4>a purification process. And purification transformation of any kind like

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 4>is not easy. It's not easy, and so you just

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<v Speaker 4>have to keep kind of growing through the mud towards

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<v Speaker 4>towards the light.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that, am. My rising is Pisces ices.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think so. I have your charts over here. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>so you have a lot of water as well, and

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<v Speaker 4>your moon. What's your moon? I can look at your

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<v Speaker 4>chart Virgo virgo. Yeah, that's right. I remember being like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh moon and virgo, sun and Virgo. That's why these

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 4>two get along.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a good chart together. Our charts matchup.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you have a good chart because you have a

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of overlapping placements, including like the Virgo virgo, and

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 4>so there is there is that theme and your scorpio

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<v Speaker 4>rising because I think I had you as cancer rising me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, from well you're the professional. I've just typed it

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<v Speaker 1>into my little whatever as you have.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll double check the time. Sometimes the a MPM gets

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<v Speaker 4>switched on my notes, so I'll check that.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me know, because I will I'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to mirroring and be like, now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who I am.

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I got so comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 4>My You're like, yeah, yeah, Amber, I have used Pisces rising,

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<v Speaker 4>and your moon is in Virgo, yeah Virgo yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>Sun you just had your birthday, so in cancer So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a little you know again, we've got some mud here, right,

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 4>We've got water, we've got earth.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>We are so in sync amber. We're just two muddy

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>bitches trying to find the light.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's good compatibility romantically for Based on my Virgo moon.

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<v Speaker 4>Virgo moons tend to be analytical in their emotions. And

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<v Speaker 4>then I also find that there's a real overlay with

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<v Speaker 4>like acts of service, you know, the love language, and

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<v Speaker 4>so really understanding that about you that you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>show love through acts of service and through doing things

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 4>for somebody else. Especially with the cancer sun, You're you're

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<v Speaker 4>a giver, Like that's your nature is to.

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<v Speaker 2>Give too much. I give too much, let's.

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<v Speaker 4>Be honest, exactly, And so knowing that about yourself and

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<v Speaker 4>then kind of choosing a partner that won't take too much,

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 4>and so you know, maybe looking at another cancer sun sign,

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<v Speaker 4>probably not a scorpio I would steer away from because

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 4>they tend to be not that they take too much,

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 4>but Scorpios tend to be a little aloof in their energy.

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 4>They kind of hold back. And for somebody who's like

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 4>a giver and wants to like take care of people,

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 4>that can be like, oh what talk to me? Oh

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 4>what's wrong? Oh you're not you're quiet. Oh you're mysterious,

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh what's happening? And so then you end up sending

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 4>them all of your energy in order to just get

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of attention. And so I would steer

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 4>you away from that. Pisces could be great for you,

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 4>Tarus could be great for you. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>it might be that, you know, they have that placement

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 4>in their moon sign that might be really nice for you,

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<v Speaker 4>like a Tarus moon or a Pisce's moon. And so

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<v Speaker 4>we want to kind of try the different compatibilities because

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes like a Pisce's rising does great with a partner

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 4>who has a Pisce's moon.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're looking at charts, like does the same Do

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<v Speaker 1>the same rules apply for friendships as romantic partnerships?

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<v Speaker 4>It can, Yeah, it hit it's a little different, but

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<v Speaker 4>yeah it absolutely can. Like some of the reasons why

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 4>you two get along and are on this podcast together.

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<v Speaker 4>Is because you share the virgo, right, The virgo is

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<v Speaker 4>a shared sign between you, so there's a part of

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 4>you that understands one another through that lens of Virgo. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I have September second night on. I won't say the

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<v Speaker 4>year if you don't want me to.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen ninety Yeah, one am PM.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. There we go. So see what.

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<v Speaker 1>It pulls up as for you, I really the Virgo

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<v Speaker 1>in me will really have a hard time shaking off.

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure rising is not Scorpio because you know, the

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>wind blows in a different direction and I'm thrown off.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really interesting with the compatibility, like just understanding the

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<v Speaker 4>different layers and nuances. It's not just about your sun sign.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 4>It's about your moon sign. It's about your rising, it's

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 4>about your venus too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so can I tell you, I'm so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>do the swap to like deep dive into all of

0:31:56.320 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>this because I really really like it's my most favorite

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>thing to understand people from the astrology lens.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say like, like, once you know that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know right then if you can move forward or not.

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's not a you thing. Or a me thing.

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<v Speaker 2>No blame stars man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's what I love about it. You are

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 4>Scorpio Rising, so I've got it. So you're right there,

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 4>Scorpio Rising. You've got Virgo on your mid heaven. That's

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 4>a great placement for what you're doing. Makes you very

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 4>precise and analytical and work. And your son is conjuncture

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 4>mid heaven. So that's your career line.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to deep dive into all of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah we will podcast, Yeah, we'll get that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so hyped. So we're gonna wrap this one up, Jill.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on An Unlikely Affair,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to catch you over on your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit Daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>In just a minute. I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you guys, thank you so much for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of an Unlikely Affair. We're going to catch

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<v Speaker 1>you guys next week. Love you by bye bye