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Speaker 1: The Michael Barry Joe So a very warm Marine Corps

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Speaker 2: Now you guys know I'm a trial order, right.

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Speaker 3: I get paid by the word. You probably ought to

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Speaker 3: order some more beer. This may take a while. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure I'm not the only parent who's lost his son

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Speaker 3: or daughter in war. Any other gold star parents in here, anybody,

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Speaker 3: I can tell you it sucks.

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Speaker 2: I plan one speech, but I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Tell another now that I've heard what he would like

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Speaker 3: to hear. It's November fourth. My son's on his third

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Speaker 2: And he was safe.

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Speaker 3: Jordan's one of our chief allies. And I never went

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Speaker 3: He was a consummate professional staff sergeant in the United

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Speaker 3: States Army Special Forces, and he was a stud I

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Speaker 3: would have hoped that he would have gone in the

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Speaker 3: and frankly, I bitterly opposed that Jimmy had a dad

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Speaker 3: I were out at a business meeting and I hear

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Speaker 2: I want to know he's safe, and.

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Speaker 3: She did, but they locked down communications when there's a death,

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Speaker 3: I went to bed early that night, and I prayed

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Speaker 3: When the army guys showed up, I said, I got

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Speaker 3: two questions, who killed him?

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Speaker 2: And why?

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Speaker 3: Because I wanted to square it counts. They didn't know,

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Speaker 2: And I said to myself, that's horseshit. Now that's a

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Speaker 3: For those of y'all have never heard that phrase before.

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Speaker 2: I was going to square accounts. And so.

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Speaker 3: I tracked down Peter Baker, who was the New York

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Speaker 2: So he wrote.

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Speaker 3: Another story and that changed a little bit, and now

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Speaker 2: Well, that was horseshit. It was noontime. They were out.

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Speaker 3: They were doing this CIA program where they were training

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Speaker 3: And then two weeks later there's a Washington Post story

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Speaker 3: too much. With all due respects, my son had fired

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Speaker 3: But it's the end of February before we see the video,

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Speaker 3: Brian McEnroe's son, Kevin, and they as fascinated Matt Llewellen.

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Speaker 3: You can go watch the video. I forced the King

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Speaker 3: And I said, you can make those son of bitches

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Speaker 4: Three Green Berets from the fifth Special Forces Group were

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Moriorty. To be clear, neither the family nor myself

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Speaker 3: So he calls the ambassador from Jordan, and the ambassador

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Speaker 3: technical legal term and one that you've probably never heard before,

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Speaker 3: a chicken chip letter, claiming that mistakes were made. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: things happen in war, and it was the most meatily

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Speaker 2: So I hold this press.

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Speaker 3: Conference, this letter comes out, and I'm blasting Jordan in

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Speaker 2: What really happened began to be told.

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Speaker 3: Ted calls me, and about this time, the King of

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Speaker 3: And I said, well fine, And so they write this letter.

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Speaker 3: Another mealy mouth letter, and so a couple of the

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Speaker 3: still madding wet hens. Not only did they assassinate our boys,

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Speaker 3: but they lied about it, and they lied about it,

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Speaker 3: and they lied about it, and they lied about it. Well,

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Speaker 3: here's where the press comes in. And let me say this.

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Speaker 3: I'm the only Democrat. Here's here's what the press does.

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Speaker 3: And let me say, in my view, one of the

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Speaker 3: is some of the press. Now, I personally sued CNN

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Speaker 3: ANYU that served in Vietnam. But there's a part of

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Speaker 3: press that works very well. I'd worked for the mayor

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Speaker 2: She shares that with a famous.

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Speaker 3: Houston Chronicle reporter named Joe Holly. Joe Holly shares it

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