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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Brigard Wineger. We're

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Speaker 3: That's none of my business. You know, you get to

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Speaker 3: And so we're just gonna move into the podcast before

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Speaker 3: Oh it's Liam garow Ah Bridger Babes.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, first of all, her story, it's first

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Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, it is a delight to be here.

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Speaker 1: It sounds so it sounds simultaneously fancy and like maybe

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Speaker 3: I've seen human excrement on the subway in New York.

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Speaker 3: Nobody loves that city.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, And I said, well it's time for me

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Speaker 1: So I've had people ask me that, and I have.

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Speaker 3: I've never been to Canada. I don't even know where

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Speaker 3: I want I'm going to get you in trouble with Canadians.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have a friend from Montreal.

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Speaker 1: Where are you from again?

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's too much money. Wait, five to seven hundred

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Speaker 3: that's too much money. It's three to four hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got a one. Oh, there's a two

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Speaker 3: I guess what, Sorry, no one wants to go to Vancouver.

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Speaker 3: If it's two hundred dollars to get there, I'm going

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Speaker 3: I feel like the food there is good such true.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of who are like familiar.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're all trying to eat well, we're trying

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Speaker 1: But also, this is what I'm saying, it's Vancouver is

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Speaker 3: Five days a week.

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Speaker 1: You look very fit.

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Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: You are obviously an exercise.

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Speaker 3: I work out but twice a week and it is horrible.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've all been there. Wait a minute, did you

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Speaker 3: Yes? I grew up in the street. I'm just going

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Speaker 1: Do you mind me?

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Speaker 3: I love a follow up on throw up?

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Speaker 3: I I usually do early evening, five o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Did you eat beforehand?

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Speaker 1: Fascinating?

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Speaker 3: You know what? And this is gonna I mean, people

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Speaker 3: are times I'll do my I'll schedule my gym appointment

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Speaker 3: I'll go to it. This is actually this is this

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'll go to in and Out at five o'clock and

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Speaker 3: eat a full meal. Yeah, and then I'm working out

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Speaker 3: at seven o'clock with a giant hamburger and French fries

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Speaker 1: This is gonna sound like I'm placating you, but you're

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Speaker 1: that doesn't bump for me at all, That really doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I got to put that in my lingo. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, No, I think that's absolutely the right thing.

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Speaker 1: Do you need energy before you are?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So you're supporting this, no fucking question. Am I supporting?

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Speaker 3: Love to this? Because every time I go, I feel like, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is dangerous behavior? What am I doing? But I

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Speaker 1: Listen, My thing is this. If they recommend that you

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Speaker 3: Two hours, it's stirring around in your stomach, it's been

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Speaker 1: My god. No, I think that's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 3: And I'm getting a little bit of caffeine, which I

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's what prompted the throw up?

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Speaker 3: What the eating or the caffeine?

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Speaker 3: No. I think it was just the sheer intensity of

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Speaker 1: A good I think it was just like a shock

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Speaker 3: Gives a bad idea on my part. And I've injured myself.

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Speaker 3: And that's another thing that's happening. I've heard my bat I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, are you dealing with the herd back right now?

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Speaker 3: It's it's getting better. I mean, this is just becoming

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Speaker 1: MOSTO can't appreciate Bridger's physical stature. The fact that you

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Speaker 3: Shape Bridger's I'm telling you, they made me throw up.

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Speaker 3: Oh got it so only once though, And I hope

439
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Speaker 3: it's not the beginning of some sort of pattern where

440
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Speaker 3: I'm constantly throwing up in the street. I don't want

441
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Speaker 3: to become that person. It's constant, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it isn't, unfortunately, a way to keep the

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Speaker 1: weight off. I hate to break it to you, but

444
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Speaker 1: it just is a.

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Speaker 3: Half a granola bar. I eight at three o'clock. Yeah,

446
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Speaker 3: get out? Oh how did we get to me throwing

447
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Speaker 3: up in the gutter? Exercise exercise fitness Vancouver, Vancouver. You're

448
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Speaker 3: exercising five days a week. Vancouver's a wellness town.

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Speaker 1: Well and also oh and you were like, and I

450
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Speaker 1: bet you Vancouver is a great food town. Yes, and

451
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Speaker 1: it is, I will say the way that it really

452
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Speaker 1: suffers unfortunately because it is a bit of a wellness town.

453
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Speaker 1: Although so is La and the La y'all have figure

454
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Speaker 1: this out. Vancouver on unfortunately is not a great dessert city.

455
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Speaker 1: I'm oh, it just isn't.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I hate to hear that.

457
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Speaker 1: Now, Onalise, you're you're nodding. Have you been to Vancouver?

458
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Speaker 1: Do you agree with this?

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Speaker 3: You do you have bad desserts or no desserts? No

460
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Speaker 3: dessert Oh has had no desserts?

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, to me, it's just like and and it's

462
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Speaker 1: fun And again, La, you have really figured out.

463
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Speaker 3: Oh, I can tell you desserts galore.

464
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Speaker 1: And specifically, you guys have figured out donut culture here.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can tell you, well, I have some. I

466
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Speaker 3: have a lot of opinions on the donut.

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Speaker 1: Culture, same as do you. And I have strong opinions

468
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Speaker 1: about the donut culture in Vancouver, and regrettably they are lost.

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Speaker 1: They need some direction. Let me ask you this. When

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Speaker 1: you get a filled like a like a like a jelly,

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Speaker 1: don't like a filled jelly.

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Speaker 3: Like a Boston cream. Let's not leave that off the table.

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Speaker 1: But no, specifically, I want to ask about the jelly one,

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Speaker 1: because when you get the jelly donut, what do you prefer?

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Speaker 1: Do you want a tan? Do you want it to

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Speaker 1: be coated with a raw granulated sugar or a powdered sugar?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Interesting on Alice's mouth? Your answer?

479
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Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna look yeah, okay?

480
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Speaker 1: And are you out of your mind? What is your answer?

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Speaker 3: Can I look up my favorite one? I'm trying to

482
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Speaker 3: remember if it has that type of sugar. I go

483
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Speaker 3: to a place called kettle Glazed Donuts, okay, and it's

484
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Speaker 3: so delicious.

485
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Speaker 1: And also, listeners, don't if you don't, don't worry. I

486
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Speaker 1: will tell you what anoles reveals to me, like I'm

487
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Speaker 1: just sitting on it. But just so you know, I am.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm almost about to get in the backseat to that

489
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Speaker 1: uberth Michael again. I swear to gone, I'm about to

490
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Speaker 1: buildoz an.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what's gonna happen when I answer I while

492
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Speaker 3: it's gonna to destroy the entire podcast.

493
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Speaker 1: This is already becoming a bit of an unsafe space

494
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Speaker 1: if I'm honest.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm looking at their donuts. I'm flying through yelp.

496
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Speaker 3: I'm looking for my preferred jelly donut. What are they

497
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Speaker 3: serving here? And I think that this may be a twist.

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Speaker 3: It may not even be the right answer in either direction.

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Speaker 1: Oh, because are you thinking glazed?

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Speaker 3: I like it glazed? Okay, so okay, but okay, they

501
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Speaker 3: make an excellent lace don't and they make their own jam.

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Speaker 3: I can't recommend this place stuff and the price point

503
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Speaker 3: is perfect. Oh, I love kettle glaze.

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Speaker 1: So if you had a jelly full donut, would you

505
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Speaker 1: prefer that the exterior of the powdered? Thank you?

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Speaker 5: And ald like a lunatic psychopath.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can't even where have you had that?

508
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Speaker 1: Just around.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've had it like a duncan, like

510
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Speaker 4: I don't think uncommon.

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Speaker 1: I've never had it with a powder.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I picture a powder That's it's the quintessential I'm

513
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Speaker 3: sorry to say, obviously a cab, but it's the quintessential

514
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Speaker 3: cop donut. It is a certain like the powder jelly donut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and are you so a cab that that you

516
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Speaker 1: won't eat that jelly donut that's actually huge?

517
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Speaker 3: Are huge? But let's say yes, sure.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, Well it's because my thing about granulated sugar

519
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Speaker 1: is like on like it's I know that powdered sugar

520
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Speaker 1: is just like blended granulated sugar.

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Speaker 3: I know this, Yeah, but I mean it's creates a

522
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Speaker 3: textural difference.

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Speaker 1: And also my illness is I think if it's powdered,

524
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Speaker 1: then it's less sugar.

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Speaker 3: Oh. Interesting, you feel like somehow the spreading of it

526
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Speaker 3: is like at an atom level, Yeah, making less sugar

527
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Speaker 3: on the doughnut.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this when I eat a powdered

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Speaker 1: sugar that is, or rather when I eat a filled

530
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Speaker 1: jelly donut that is powdered versus granulated. When I eat

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Speaker 1: the powdered one, I don't feel sick afterwards, whereas when

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Speaker 1: I eat the granulated one, I do feel because to me,

533
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Speaker 1: I think it is I bet you it is more sugar.

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Speaker 1: I bet you anything interesting.

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Speaker 3: I would almost say it's less because those granules are.

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Speaker 1: I have to go.

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Speaker 3: They're taking a space on that donut.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call Michael. I'm getting the backseat of this uber.

539
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Speaker 1: This is a nightmare.

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Speaker 3: But Vancouver is doing all of their donuts and a

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Speaker 3: granulated sugar.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them, like the jelly filled ones. Regrettably yes,

543
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Speaker 1: but uh and a lot of people drag me for

544
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Speaker 1: this in Vancouver, and this is a very Vancouver specific reference,

545
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Speaker 1: so I apologize to the listeners. But like, the place

546
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Speaker 1: I go to for my donuts is this chain spot

547
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Speaker 1: in Vancouver called Breca Okay, which is like, not like

548
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Speaker 1: there are more mom and pop more like niche artisan

549
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Speaker 1: places to get a donut. But let me tell you something.

550
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Speaker 1: They figured it out and I don't think they should

551
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Speaker 1: ever ever ever be discounted. I think they are the

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Speaker 1: they are the place to go for a donut. Well,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like a mini chain to me, it is

554
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Speaker 1: a mini chain.

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Speaker 3: I feel like mini chains can be trusted in some situations.

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Speaker 1: Not if. But when you come to Vancouver. Two things.

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Speaker 1: We're getting dinner and then we are gonna get a

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Speaker 1: donut from Brecca.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were going to say that, we're

560
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Speaker 3: going to follow it up with breakfast.

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Speaker 1: And listen, we're gonna we're gonna have dinner, We're gonna

562
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Speaker 1: have a crazy night, and then six Sam will roll

563
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Speaker 1: around and we're gonna find ourselves a twenty four hour

564
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Speaker 1: diner and just do it all over again.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I I trust you. I feel like you know

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Speaker 3: donuts if you have strong opinions. Breca b r e kka.

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Speaker 3: Cut out that second k oh. We're working with a

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Speaker 3: single k girl, Recca. Who that's a oh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out why it's called Breca.

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Speaker 1: And you know, so funny. In spite of how truly,

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Speaker 1: at this point thousands of dollars I've given them in

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Speaker 1: my business, I've never thought to inquire because you know

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Speaker 1: what the product is a solid. I don't second guess.

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Speaker 3: Are you getting a coffee there?

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Speaker 1: Nope? Oh I will, oh you don't.

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay. First of all, just so I can really explain

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Speaker 1: my mental illness to you, I am a person who

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Speaker 1: will have donuts delivered to my home.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, this is that's crossing the line for me.

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Speaker 3: I have to go. First of all, I need to

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Speaker 3: see the donut before I put down money for it.

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Speaker 1: But let me say this isn't it Isn't it a

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Speaker 1: testament to the product that I know I can deliver

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Speaker 1: Breca and it's always gonna be good. Why And I

586
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Speaker 1: don't need to see it beforehand? And sure enough when

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Speaker 1: it shows up at my friend door, it's exactly what

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: And how many are you ordering to be delivered?

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Speaker 1: That's kind of actually none of your business. No, you

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Speaker 1: want to know something, I'm like, no, you know what,

592
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest and vulnerable. I will order

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Speaker 1: three donuts to my apartment.

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Speaker 3: That seems like if it was one donut, that would

595
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Speaker 3: be like a Taylor Swift private jet level of waste, right,

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Speaker 3: But three donuts, because you're not going to order a

597
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Speaker 3: dozen for yourself, You're gonna be drawing crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I definitely have never done that. Guys, the pandemic

599
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: was dark, But no, I feel like three is good

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Speaker 1: because then you get like, listen, you're gonna get like

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Speaker 1: a different donut you're getting a variety, obviously, because it's me.

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Speaker 1: Every donut that I'm getting is gonna be a filled donut,

603
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: but it's like a different kind of filled.

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Speaker 3: Any type of chocolate happening.

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Speaker 1: Get ready?

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00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: Oh okay.

607
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: So they have your quintessential gorgeous Boston cream, which obviously

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Speaker 1: on the menu. Obviously they also do an it's like

609
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Speaker 1: eating a cloud. They have a powdered sugar nutella filled donut.

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Speaker 3: Oh delicious. No, I'm kind of on record as saying

611
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Speaker 3: nutella is too sweet.

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Speaker 1: Which is surprising to me because it's famously more nutty,

613
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Speaker 1: I think than it is sweet.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on there, but the way

615
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Speaker 3: my mouth reacts to nutella is I think I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this is frosting?

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Speaker 1: Is this like You're like, it's like you're on a

618
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Speaker 1: lease with the granulated sugar. It's like, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: it's just like it's something you either are aren't on

620
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Speaker 1: board with.

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Speaker 3: It might be I think it's genetic.

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Speaker 1: Are like my mother hated Natella, My grandmother hated Natella.

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Speaker 1: What's your thought? It's on a caramel situation, because caramel

624
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Speaker 1: is a very divisive.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean and it's also a wildly and consistent product. Correct,

626
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Speaker 3: I mean you good, and I'm gonna say caramel. I

627
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Speaker 3: have to be true to myself. Well, actually, I'm not

628
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 3: being true to myself because I say both, which is

629
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Speaker 3: not right. It's not fair to anybody.

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Speaker 1: Well, because you just want to make friends and you

631
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Speaker 1: don't want to you don't want to anger anybody.

632
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Speaker 3: And it depends on the situation. Sometimes if I'm like

633
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Speaker 3: at a nice baker, I'm like, I can't say carmel here.

634
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Speaker 3: They're gonna think I'm trash caramel.

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Speaker 1: Do you find though that I have you traveled to

636
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Speaker 1: the South in the States, I've been to Tennessee, And

637
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Speaker 1: do you find that when you're in a place like

638
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Speaker 1: Tennessee you can just say carmel and feel safe?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, Utah, I'm safe.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

641
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Speaker 3: Basically the Mountain West, California, You're California is tricky because

642
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Speaker 3: everyone here is a transplant, right, and so everyone brings

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Speaker 3: their own little problem with caramel. Uh. But as far

644
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Speaker 3: as as far as the food itself, I'm you generally

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Speaker 3: on board.

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Speaker 1: Because they do a filled donut ibreca, it's a dulce

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Speaker 1: de la cha. Oh, and I and I have to

648
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: say I am not a caramel fan hmm, and I

649
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: do really enjoy that.

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00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: Then that must be good. That's a good See it's.

651
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: A solid product. And when you think about okay, first

652
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Speaker 1: of all, if Breca's business does not boom after this,

653
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Speaker 1: and they deserve it, they.

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00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: Aren't going to go straight out of business.

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Speaker 1: I I mean listen only because they run out of stock.

656
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Speaker 1: That's why. That's why between this and Hollywood Hotel, think

657
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: of what I'm helping to do for small businesses everywhere.

658
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: I would love for this podcast to drive a small

659
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: business out of business. If there's a.

660
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: Small business that you could pick to go out of business,

661
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: which one would it be. Let's all say it. Let's

662
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: all say our small and dependent mom and pop store

663
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: that we want to run out of town.

664
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I could name several dentists and optometrists. Oh,

665
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: we're not gonna do it. I complained about all these

666
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: people enough, But I did have an optometrist who took

667
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: my contact directly out of my eye, and I think

668
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: that maybe there should there's a health code being violated

669
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: or something there. They should be put out of business.

670
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: That to me is like when this is this is

671
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: gonna be a weird This is where I where my

672
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: brain went. But just follow this logic for a second.

673
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of like if you are a parent, you

674
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: become so desensitized to germs and like bodily fluids because

675
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: you're just constantly dealing with it all the time, that

676
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: you then think you can just engage with the rest

677
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: of the world.

678
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean.

679
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: It's like like for that Upton intrist, they're like, well,

680
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: I deal with people's eyes, so I'll just get that,

681
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, no, no, no, like in the same

682
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: way that like like oh as you like you as

683
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: this adult parent, like you don't need to like bring

684
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: a hand keep my nose, Like I got it exactly.

685
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 3: I guess exactly what was going on. Oh you don't

686
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 3: pluck something out of my eye. No, not without your

687
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: permission and without my friend. And that's and the mood

688
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: has to be right.

689
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: If there's not at least ten lit candles, then this

690
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: isn't gonna work.

691
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: Liam. Yes, we've got something else we have to talk about.

692
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: We absolutely have something else to talk about. Look, okay,

693
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: I was excited to have you here today. I thought, uh,

694
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: you know, bare minimum will have a fine time. Yes,

695
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: it could be it could go all over the place,

696
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: or you know, there could be an explosion. You never know.

697
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: But I thought we're gonna have a good time, right,

698
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: Liam's so sweet, he's so funny. We're gonna have a

699
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: nice time. So you know, the podcast is called I

700
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: said no gifts, and so emails have been sent, exchanges

701
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: have been made. I mean, I feel like this title

702
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: has been run by you. So I was a little surprised.

703
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: First of all, you were late, and so I was

704
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: already wow, running hot.

705
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: Wow. We explicitly said that that was a Michael's fault.

706
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: Analis was kind of scratching your name out of future guests.

707
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, interesting on a Lie's interesting on two feasts,

708
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: you are on aalise.

709
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: And then here comes strike two. Okay, Liam skipping into

710
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: the backyard holding what, at least from my where I'm standing,

711
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: is a gift?

712
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Can I say where the confusion was?

713
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: I would love some clarity.

714
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: Famously, I'm not great at reading emails.

715
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

716
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: I was so sure you're gonna die when I tell

717
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: you this. I thought the podcast was called please now

718
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: more gifts. Now, please grab your Winergard.

719
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: It's the same set of letters, essentially.

720
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: And so here I was thinking if anything kind of

721
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: weird that he would demand that a guest bring him

722
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: a gift. That that's where my brain went. I'll say that,

723
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: and I don't blame you, and so I mean, I

724
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: but listen, I in keeping with my polite Canadian nature,

725
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: who is I had to question you? And here you

726
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: are hosting me in your gorgeous you know, home, your backyard,

727
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: you doing everything I can. You got me water with ice,

728
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: everybody hello, So I thought, listen, of course I'll extend

729
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: the gesture I will, I will, you know, follow along

730
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: with the protocol of this podcast. I will get you

731
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: a gift because obviously the title demands it. And I really,

732
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: I really, you know, I messed up. Okay, I messed

733
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: up owning it, and I think it's that's the bravest

734
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: and most honest thing I could do.

735
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: And it's also very professional. You may not be a

736
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: professional in email, no, you may be falling away behind

737
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: in that sector, yeah, but here you are, you bringing

738
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: a real class with the apology, the owning, and then

739
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: there's this gift and it's like, I don't know, should

740
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: we open it? Here on the podcast.

741
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't mind, you know what I

742
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: think we should do, though.

743
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you're I mean, you're making all these calls.

744
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: Now, I think you should close your eyes when I

745
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: give it to you, and then I'm gonna give it

746
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: to you, and then you're gonna open your eyes.

747
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: Okay, in the okay, but you're going to hand it

748
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: to me in the bag it came, yes, okay, no question?

749
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: And should we say what bag it's in right now?

750
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: Famously it is very much in a Macy's bag. And

751
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: did I buy your gift at Macy's No?

752
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: Why?

753
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Let me explain. I also am not great at reading

754
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: wedding invitations. So here's what happened. I had so I

755
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: came into town, as I mentioned, I think for a

756
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: wedding and if I didn't, now we all know. And

757
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: there was a dress code that I definitely did miss.

758
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: And they specifically were like, we don't want any cream

759
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: colored clothes. Ohs, that is exactly what I brought for

760
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: the weddings a lot. So I Jake and Becky they're

761
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: allowed to do whatever they want.

762
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: It's their big day, Jake and Becky, I'm not on

763
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: your soul. Hello.

764
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: Well and listen, you said it, not me. But the

765
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: point is I am meeting them for dinner after this anyway.

766
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: So I bulldozed over to Macy's bought myself a blue

767
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: suit as one does. Wow, and ahead of the Macy's purchase,

768
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: because I thought you were demanding a gift, I went

769
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: over to a little special place. So, Bridger, now is

770
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: the time. Close your eyes, closing my eyes, get ready

771
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: to receive. I put my hand out here. Yeah, I

772
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: think it's perfect. Get ready to receive the Macy's bag. Okay, okay,

773
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: he's holding it. He's holding it.

774
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: Shall I open my eyes? Okay, I'm going to okay,

775
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: right to your face. I okay, And I'm reaching in for.

776
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: He's really getting into the bag. He's getting into the bagh.

777
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm okay, okay, I mean should I guess that's fun?

778
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: What do you think it is?

779
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: I mean, from what I'm feeling, hm hmm, it's a

780
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: square wrapped in plastic. That's about I would say fourteen

781
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: inches by fourteen inches.

782
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god. First of all, if that, if that's

783
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: the accurate math, that is incredible.

784
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: And we should check later. I'm very good at estimates.

785
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, oh, there's there are two things

786
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: I want to guess, but I'm going to lean into

787
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: this is a record.

788
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: Opening on zan flip it over.

789
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: It Actually, oh my gosh, this is in Oh. I mean,

790
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: I'm just falling apart looking at this. Are you I

791
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: love this album?

792
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: Should we reveal what it is?

793
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: It's Fleetwood Max Toss.

794
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you a question. Do you own

795
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: a record player?

796
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: I don't, well, and then this pick is a bust.

797
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: But listen, I'll but look to just own this. This

798
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: is my favorite Fleetwood mac album mine two. It's I mean,

799
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: it is the best one. They're all. I mean, there

800
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: are a.

801
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Listen rumors deserves its flowers for all the obvious reasons.

802
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If you're a real one, this

803
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: is the best one. And I want to say something else.

804
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: When I was rummaging through bens trying to find one,

805
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: they had multiple copies and I did exert the due

806
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: diligence in picking up the one that was the last

807
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: water Damage one. So I want I really.

808
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: Is a US album.

809
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: I believe it is.

810
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: That's amazing. This may be for all we know, this

811
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: is like a an original.

812
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: For all we know, there are trace amounts of cocaine

813
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: on the Liner album liner notes of that album.

814
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: I'm so thrilled about this. Where did you get it?

815
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: It was from a little like secondhand store. God, I

816
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: wish I can remember the name of it. It's like

817
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: in downtown LA when you walk in there's an enormous

818
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: mannequin with a like peacock feathered dress. Okay, and you

819
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: walk in and it feels like, all of a sudden,

820
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: you're stepping foot into a warehouse. Oh, like, the owner

821
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: of the store is this is absolutely true? Was just

822
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: like openly rolling joints at the counter. True, And he

823
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: just like sat himself inside in front of like an

824
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: industrial sized fan. Okay, it's hot in there.

825
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 3: I guess it's sure not a lot of air circulation

826
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: somewhere in the wear house.

827
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so I went there and because you know what,

828
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: I because it was going to be either this one

829
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: or I was going to get you a Linda Ronstatt record.

830
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Now I wouldn't have been as excited.

831
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: And then I'm so glad I got you this one.

832
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: I would have thought, oh, you know, I don't I'm

833
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: not as familiar with Linda. This will be nice well,

834
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: this feels like a momento.

835
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not a religious person, but this is really

836
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: you know, you know what this is, Mama, that's God.

837
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: We finally found proof.

838
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: This is the fact that I could have and did,

839
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: by the way, search out Linda Ronstet Records, and then

840
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: I happened upon this one. Literally, I was like, I

841
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: went to this record store thinking it was I was

842
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: so certain I was going to get you, like Living

843
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: in the USA or Mad Love, and then sure enough

844
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: this quite literally essentially jumped out at me.

845
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: And I was like levitated.

846
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, just with Steve Vnix's witchy powers. And I thought,

847
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't just be an absolute scream if I got him

848
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: Fleetwood Max Task And now here we are.

849
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: It's I mean, thank god I don't own a record player,

850
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: because then I would already own this and it would

851
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: be a double And then suddenly I'm dealing with doubles, and.

852
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: Really, when you think about it would be a quadruple,

853
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: because why that's a double album.

854
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Too much vinyl happening, that's right.

855
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: Famously, I believe at the time. Now this is nineteen

856
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: seventy nine numbers, but I believe at the time, it

857
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: was the most expensive record ever made. It cost a

858
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: million dollars, which in nineteen seventy nine it was about.

859
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: Two hundred and fifty million dollars a sudden, you can

860
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: take that to the bank.

861
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And listen, as we've established, you're great

862
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: with SS numbers, so I'm sure that's exactly right. And

863
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: so this is a very you know, there's a lot

864
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: of like lore and there's a there's this is a

865
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: very you know, storied record, and so I mean, I

866
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: I love it, and I just thought, you know what

867
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: I want you to have it?

868
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: Can you tell us a little bit more about this album?

869
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: I feel like the only thing I really know is

870
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: that there was like an attempt to kind of there

871
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: was some punk influence on it.

872
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: There was a bit, yes, but it's so it's not overt.

873
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: I think what really happened with this record is, you know,

874
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Lindsay Buckingham famously is like sort of the mastermind behind

875
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: all of all of their records. He's like the head

876
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: honcho producer, and after the enormous successive rumors, I think

877
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: he really wanted to strike out and do something really

878
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: musically different, which is why you know, this record, as

879
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: it compares to Rumors, I would say, is much more

880
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: rougher around the edges sonically, I think, you know, even

881
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: in terms of its subject matter, it's a little darker.

882
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, it's kind of like Rumors, but

883
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: without its polish and its sheen, which is why I

884
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: like it. There's something a little more pared down about it.

885
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

886
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: And so this was a record I believe that took

887
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: them a year to finish making.

888
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: And was content of course. I mean it was horse

889
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: it was. It wasn't ever not contentious with that.

890
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: Imagine there's like, actually they got along so good.

891
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: It was all about teamwork.

892
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Christine mcvieh herself Ripe coined the term

893
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: that day in the studio in nineteen seventy eight. She said, guys,

894
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound crazy, but I just came up

895
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: with this famously. I think teamwork makes the dream work.

896
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: And they were like, they all loved it.

897
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: STEVNX lifted herself up out of her like pound of cocaine.

898
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: She said, did you just make that up?

899
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: And she's like, I did, teamwork makes the dream work?

900
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: Does sound like someone on cocaine.

901
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Oh and this record, by the way, absolutely sounds like

902
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of people on cocaine made it. There's wonderful,

903
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: there's a kind of there's a there's like a frenzied

904
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: nature to it. There's a kind of there's it's ragged. Yeah, ragged, Yes,

905
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: there's a raggedness to it. I would say that is

906
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: exactly the right word everybody. I mean, if someone hasn't

907
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: heard this album, they've got to listen to it. Do

908
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: you now, given that you are already familiar with it,

909
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: are there songs on the record that already kind of

910
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: like speak to you? That are some of your favorites?

911
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 3: I love the Ledge. I think the Ledge is so good.

912
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: I mean it's hard for me to say. I mean,

913
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: Tusk is an incredible song. I don't I don't feel

914
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: like I have a number one favorite. Whenever I put

915
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: this album on, I just let it run through one.

916
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of my mo for most music. Well,

917
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: because I.

918
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: Think you and I are like just old enough. That's like,

919
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: that's how we grew up listening to music, like this

920
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: idea of going to tracks and it's like, I don't

921
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: mean to make it sound like we're eighty years old.

922
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, I'm ninety eight, well and I'm

923
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: one hundred, and we look incredible. We've established were very

924
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: physically fit because of our routine and our exercise. Grandchildren

925
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: and we and God love them, one of them just

926
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: turned fifty. But like I think, I think what I've

927
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: am so yes struck by with this record is like

928
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: it does also emerge from an era where that is

929
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: how people intended for people to listen to that music, right,

930
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: Like this idea of singles mindset wasn't really as prevalent,

931
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: this idea that like no, no, you start an album side one, right,

932
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: you listen to it all the way through, and then

933
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: you flip it, and then you listen to that all

934
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: the way through and then you're done.

935
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: It's like a movie or a book.

936
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it is telling I'm sorry to say it

937
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: tells a story. That might sound right, but it's telling

938
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: a story.

939
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 3: What's happening with Fleetwood Mack at this point?

940
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny, literally, I'm not kidding. This morning,

941
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks was giving an interview with Vulture. Because of course,

942
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: Christy McFee.

943
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: Said she did top twenty five comedians to watch this year.

944
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: She did it, and because and you know what people

945
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: love about Steve v Nix's comedy. It's so viby. There

946
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: aren't any hard jokes, but she really sets the scene.

947
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: But she does an interview with Vulture, and you know

948
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Christy McVie, who did pass away recently, very sadly, She

949
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: just gave an interview saying like, I don't really think

950
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: it's worth continuing the band without her. I mean, sure,

951
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: of course, and and all the but which is interesting though,

952
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: because they did actually for many many years, because Christy

953
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: mcvee left the band in nineteen ninety eight after that

954
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: hugely successful reunion tour called The Dance, remember right, and

955
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: she left the group, oh my god, for like fifteen

956
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: years or something like she reunite or however that math

957
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: checks out, because she reunited with them in twenty thirteen, okay,

958
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: and then they did obviously very successful tours with the

959
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: original lineup, you know, all five of them, And then

960
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Lindsey Buckingham was sort of unceremoniously exiled from the band

961
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: in recent years.

962
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: I think that's right. I forgot that he was kicked out.

963
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: Yes, because I think he and I apparently what I

964
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: think was it like they were all getting some. It

965
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: wasn't the rock and roll Hall of Fame. It was

966
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: other some like big career achievement wor thing anyway. And

967
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: I guess the real straw that broke the camel's back

968
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: was when Stevie was giving her speech. Behind her, Lindsay

969
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: Buckingham pulled Christy mcfeed to like, kind of do this

970
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: little waltz in this little dance to kind of indicate

971
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: that like he thought she was taking too long, and

972
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, I do not like that, of course,

973
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: and so that apparently instigated a major fight and then

974
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: he was out.

975
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: Skis the quitting, the firing like it. It feels like

976
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: they run it like an Rby's. It's like it doesn't

977
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: matter who's here, just in and out of.

978
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: It's a soap opera. No, it is a soap opera.

979
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, this has happened both times

980
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: that Lindsay Buckingham has left the band, because it happened

981
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: just recently within the last handful of years, and it

982
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: did happen the first time in nineteen eighty seven he

983
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: left the band, and both times that he left, they

984
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: replaced him with two guitarists, which is a testament to

985
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: his ability that when one corson goes down, they have

986
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: to play some two people sign right yeah yeah right,

987
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean listen. Do I think he is probably a

988
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: problematic person? Yes? Is he also very gifted and skilled

989
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: of what he does? Absolutely, as by the Tusk record

990
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: and many others.

991
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: Of course, you know what's your feeling when like a

992
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: favorite band breaks up for you?

993
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I do you know? So funny? I already emerged into

994
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: my musical taste with so many of my favorite acts

995
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: kind of having like either pulled the brakes a little

996
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: bit on their career or like even with Fleetwood Mac,

997
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: it's like being we're together and now we're broken up,

998
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: or we're together we're broken up. But I will say

999
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: the first band slash group that I came up with

1000
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: that when they disbanded, where it actually I like, it

1001
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: felt like someone punched me in the stomach and I

1002
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: realized this is gonna be very on the nose. Example,

1003
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: but when the Spice Girls broke up, when not when

1004
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: they broke up, but when Jerry left and Very left.

1005
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: Yes, let's let's put it out there, Jerry left.

1006
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: But also when the Spy girls broke up. I mean, like,

1007
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, let's be honest, like Jerry was the Spice Girls,

1008
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: and like when she left, I remember being a small

1009
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: child and I was devastated, like course devastated, and I

1010
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: could not understand. And I also, you know, through your

1011
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: child's mind, there are so many things that you're kind

1012
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: of like not fully understanding or you don't have the

1013
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: full picture of. So there was this picture of her

1014
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: that was printed in my local newspaper, the Ottawa Citizen,

1015
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: and she was like kind of just dressed up in

1016
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: business casual where because she was really wanting to sort

1017
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: of I guess Springboard sort of more charity work for

1018
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: us and she's gunning for the UN or whatever exactly.

1019
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: And that's where this picture was from. She was at

1020
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: the u N and she was like dressing in this

1021
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: business casual outfit. But I, as a child, I didn't

1022
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: understand this. All I could think was, oh my god,

1023
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I cannot believe Ginger just let the Spice Girls go

1024
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: work in an office. Like I was like, I can't

1025
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: believe she's working in nine to five And I said

1026
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: goodbye to international fame and stardom just so she could

1027
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: work in a cubicle, Like, I really that is what

1028
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: I thought, and I was so confused by it.

1029
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of remember having that same feeling. And

1030
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: for me, when a band breaks up, there's just this

1031
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: intense worry. It's not even a concern about there not

1032
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: being more new music. It's like they're not friends anymore. Yeah,

1033
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: friends aren't friends anymore, and I'm worried about what happened.

1034
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: Yes, And also when you're a child, like there's something

1035
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: so like, I don't know, when you're a little kid,

1036
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: you think the things that you like are gonna be

1037
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: that way forever. Of course, we're gonna keep going and

1038
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: going and going. And then when when it's not, I mean,

1039
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: it's devastating immortality. Not well, ain't that the damn truths?

1040
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean, and not to the same degree, but I

1041
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: did have a similar ish feeling. When S Club seven

1042
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: broke up. I was like, also, let this be a

1043
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: sign of the times, because I think two of the

1044
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: members have been like this is so like nothing now,

1045
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: but like they were caught smoking pot. They were like

1046
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: these young twenty somethings and they were caught smoking pot.

1047
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: But me, like nine years old, I was like, I

1048
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: don't know.

1049
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: Why they're trying to ruin what they've built. I was like,

1050
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 5: they're all gonna get caught, like, oh have done drugs.

1051
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 5: They're gonna die from pot like I was. So, I

1052
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 5: was really legitimately devastated. The irony being that I would

1053
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: grow to love a band like Fleetwood Mac who literally

1054
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 5: was funneled by drugs for the better part of fifteen years.

1055
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: Break up upon break up upon breakup, Yes, just torturous relationship.

1056
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: Do you own a lot of records?

1057
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't say a lot, But also famously I

1058
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: don't own a record player. I just like, because I'm

1059
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: also that person, I'm like, no, no, this, I'm such an idiot.

1060
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna buy one. I'm always like, I

1061
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: am gonna buy one, and I'm gonna set the money

1062
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: aside and I'm gonna do it. And when you know what,

1063
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: here I am thirty two years young still have not

1064
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: made that purchase.

1065
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: It's a I can't open that door. That's the reason,

1066
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: Like I think, the moment I own a record player,

1067
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: my home will be destroyed.

1068
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I just get too many records I will.

1069
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it'll just records, records everywhere. And I did

1070
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: that with books a long time ago, and then I

1071
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: moved to New York and I realized I can't keep

1072
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: buying these. Well, and now I'm kind of turning the

1073
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: corner because of you know, the Internet is not letting

1074
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: us own anything, and we should probably own as many

1075
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: physical things as we can before that question kind of

1076
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 3: claw them away from us.

1077
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: That before the grid goes down.

1078
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm a that's the reason I don't own

1079
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 3: a record player.

1080
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Well, I also and this is a real testament to

1081
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: my laziness, but I'm sorry to say, I do love

1082
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: just listening to an album through without having to get up.

1083
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 3: Oh sure there.

1084
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: Is something really nice. Yeah, I mean about bluetoothing a

1085
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: speaker to your phone, opening up title, and then away

1086
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: we go.

1087
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: It is amazing what the human mind is able to

1088
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: become lazy about almost immediately, like yep, not wanting to

1089
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: get up to put a CD in or a DVD

1090
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: or to change the channel. Curse things seem the TV's

1091
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: like miles away at this point.

1092
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's how I feel about a record player,

1093
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: where I'm like, and also, each quote unquote side of

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00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: a record is like what twenty minutes I'm getting up.

1095
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: This is really twenty minutes. It's got to be a

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00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: half hour.

1097
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: Most records go like forty five minutes at the longest.

1098
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 3: Wow.

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00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: So then and math tells me, if you split that

1100
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: in two, that's approximately twenty some odd minutes per side.

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00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: So I'm like every twenty minutes I'm getting up. Oh

1102
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1103
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: Oh you're out of breath, you're sweating.

1104
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: Listen. Done a lot for me, but it has not

1105
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: at all incentivized me to want to get up to

1106
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: change the record the strength. No, I don't have it.

1107
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: And also, if we're being honest, am I listening to

1108
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: music while maybe like pretty deep into an edible?

1109
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're stuck to the floor.

1110
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm horizontals Well, I always say, like there is

1111
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: a edible or not. There does come a point in

1112
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: the day, and it's pretty early, by the way, where

1113
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: I do just need to be horizontal. Like if I'm

1114
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: being entirely honest, like beyond five pm, it's kind of

1115
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: like no, no go for me. Like I'm indoors and

1116
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: I like I'm really living like my FDR fantasy. There's

1117
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: a blanket over my lap. I'm sitting down like you

1118
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I just really I want

1119
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: to be You're.

1120
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: In kind of one of those basket wheelchairs, ye, woven wheelchair.

1121
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: I have a lovely woman pushing me around. You know.

1122
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: It's funny. Even before I started like enjoying the occasional edible,

1123
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: I think I already had stoner mindset because my my

1124
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: mo constantly is just like I want to be, like

1125
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: the most comfortable I could possibly be, Like.

1126
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 3: That is you're in your home.

1127
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: Yes, But I think like but to a degree where

1128
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: I will, like I won't get up to change the record,

1129
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm saying. Like I think there are

1130
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: people who understand, like, oh, in place, like I'm going

1131
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: to get up now, and I need to there's business

1132
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: attend to. But like when I decide that I'm done,

1133
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. Remember I'm ordering donuts to my apartment.

1134
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 3: It's an obvious lifestyle.

1135
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: Are you?

1136
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: Are you getting up? I'm moving things around. I'm never

1137
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: quite at ease, are you?

1138
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Would you describe yourself as being a jittery person.

1139
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm not jittery unless you know, of course, caffeine levels

1140
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: go through the roof and then my throwing up in

1141
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: the gutter. A lot of problems are happening for me.

1142
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: I am an anxious person, right, so maybe that's kind

1143
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: of driving it. I don't know.

1144
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have well, because here's the thing. As a

1145
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I still have my anxiety, but I definitely

1146
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: am far less anxious than I used to be. So

1147
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: as a person who also used to be very tightly wound,

1148
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: I relate to this feeling.

1149
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: Can I ask you? You've said F forty five several times,

1150
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 3: and I follow you on Instagram, so I see it

1151
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: on occasion, But I don't understand what F forty five is.

1152
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: It's F forty five, yes. Is it like a boot

1153
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: camp situation? No?

1154
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: So F the F for forty five stands for functional.

1155
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay, basically is like functional fitness, and then forty

1156
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: five because the classes are only forty five minutes.

1157
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 3: Oh oh, it's all right there in the title.

1158
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: It's all right, it's in the name, and it's just

1159
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: like it's a hit workouts and you just kind of

1160
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: do this little circuit for forty five minutes, you push

1161
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: your body to its limit, and then you go home.

1162
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

1163
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: And so it oscillates between you'll do some days that

1164
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: are cardio Okay, you do some days at our strength

1165
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: and then deva, wouldn't you know it? Every so often

1166
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: you do a day that's both and so uh it's

1167
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: a real combo situation. So I and I, by the way,

1168
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: always I was so sure I would never be a

1169
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: person that would enjoy any form of physical fitness. And

1170
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, and I know, I'm like, this

1171
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: is really me going against my former self. I love it,

1172
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: love it.

1173
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 3: Are they playing music? Hell? Yes, what kind of music?

1174
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: This is a big problem?

1175
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: Well no, can I tell you why? I also love

1176
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: the location that I go to is because like all

1177
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: the trainers there are straight, but they play gay music.

1178
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: Oh okay, the well, my the current trainers play decent music.

1179
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: But I had to leave a trainer because he was

1180
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: playing corn and also trying to talk to me about

1181
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: Joe Roganna nevery every turn. I'm now already mad working out.

1182
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: I don't need more reasons to be angry.

1183
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: No, let me tell you there is and I'm actually

1184
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: gonna gi him ahodout right now. His name is Olivier.

1185
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: He's a trainer at my gem. Again, straight as an arrow,

1186
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: But you had best believe at five thirty in the morning,

1187
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: he will blast Kylie Minogue's Padam and then when we're

1188
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: finished the class for the cool down, he dims all

1189
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: the lights and one not he puts on Shania Twins.

1190
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: You're still the one? Are you kidding me?

1191
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: A dream?

1192
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: And I say to him every day I go Olivier,

1193
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: I want you to know something. You are the embodiment

1194
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: of all.

1195
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: He's gonna come out to you, I hope. So he's

1196
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: just waiting for the right time.

1197
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: He You know, what can I say that would so

1198
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: not be off base for me. The amount of straightmen

1199
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: that I felt comfortable over the course of my life

1200
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: letting me know about any sexual proclivities they have is staggering.

1201
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: This is absolutely true. I went to my I mentioned

1202
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: that I went to your friends birthday party a few

1203
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: days ago. Within five minutes of this person showing up,

1204
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: he was like, letting it be known that he really

1205
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: wanted to make out with me.

1206
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1207
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: And then later he was like, oh, well I can't,

1208
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh why, and he's like I

1209
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: have a girlfriend. And I was like I what, how, how?

1210
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: And why what time of day this? For whatever reason,

1211
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 3: I'm picturing afternoon? No, he was like it's in the evening. Yeah, yeah,

1212
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: I would, but like also not hideously late. I would

1213
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 3: say like nine or ten, and he was just getting

1214
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: into it five minutes in to say that.

1215
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: There was a spark as an understatement Wow yes, yes, wow.

1216
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, we're going to

1217
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: make out and then he was like, well, actually we

1218
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: can't because because here's how we he gave me all

1219
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: the information. He goes, oh, we can't because actually I know.

1220
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this was gonna happen, but I actually

1221
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: am meeting someone later and I was like, oh my god,

1222
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: no problem, and I'm like, obviously I'm smart. So I

1223
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to be here for longer. And

1224
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: then he's like, I don't know, like we're not. And

1225
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: I was like, what girl, Like I can't do this

1226
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: dance with you? This is I can't. I can't hold

1227
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: your hand through your life.

1228
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: To go from being that direct to this wishy washy.

1229
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: Can I say you know what? I think? It also

1230
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: was he's a male improviser and okay, well, and I

1231
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: think it's a little also like yes, he was interested,

1232
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: but also it was a little like him just yes, sanding,

1233
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: does that make sense like.

1234
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like him saying well, maybe, oh, an

1235
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: app that's a good improv technique that people should embrace,

1236
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 3: just kind of not making any decisions on stage.

1237
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: Well, and you know what, as Elaine May used to

1238
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: say when in doubt Seduce, she always used to say

1239
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: that if you're in a scene and you don't know

1240
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: where it goes, seduce and you know what, maybe that's

1241
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: exactly what he was doing. He's like, I don't really

1242
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: quite know what to do here, so you know what,

1243
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: let's make out. And then I said okay. And then

1244
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: he was like, well, and I thought, okay, A nightmare,

1245
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: A nightmare.

1246
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: We got to play a game.

1247
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: What shall we play?

1248
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 3: We're playing, don't tell me we're playing Gift Master. I've

1249
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: gone so good at this on Alias. I've become a professional.

1250
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: It's amazing. Liam. I need a number between one and

1251
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: ten from you.

1252
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose seven.

1253
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do my life calculating right now.

1254
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: You can promote to recommend, do whatever you want with

1255
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 3: the microphone.

1256
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: I'll be right back, okay. Listeners of apparently a podcast

1257
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: called I Said No Gifts Boy, was I'm mistaken about

1258
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: that title? If you have enjoyed even an iota of

1259
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: what you've heard so far, you can follow me across

1260
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: all socials at Liam Garrow. I also have a brand

1261
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: new podcast that maybe mister Bridger Weineger himself will be

1262
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,479
Speaker 1: guesting on Excuse Me, Excuse Me, And so that show

1263
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: is called tell Me Everything. It's where guests come on,

1264
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: such as Bridger and they're going to bring on their

1265
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: favorite things from pop culture and just kind of riff

1266
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: about it and tell me why they like it so much.

1267
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: And if you want to keep up to date with

1268
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: that show, you can follow my show's Instagram page at

1269
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: tell Liam Everything. And if you listen to Tell Me

1270
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: Everything and enjoy it, I would rate and review and

1271
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: subscribe to that pod, because god knows it makes a

1272
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: huge difference.

1273
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: Of course, everyone follow those directions. So that was excellent.

1274
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: Thank you. Really that felt like you had copy in

1275
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: front of.

1276
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: You and wanted something I didn't. Anyone know how I

1277
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: know I didn't because I know already there are a

1278
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: few things I forgot to say. But that's fine.

1279
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: Is this something you need to say?

1280
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, just that we have some wonderful guests on

1281
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: the show, and by this point, by the time everyone's listened,

1282
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 1: fabulous comedian growed fairly, we'll have been on the show

1283
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: and also just around the court, either just around the

1284
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: corner or maybe an episode that has just dropped Paul F.

1285
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: Tompkins and Tompkins, Oh we love both of them. Adorable

1286
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: And by the time I think this episode goes wide,

1287
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: I think your episode is like a week away.

1288
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 3: Oh my god coming down. Anticipation is building. People are

1289
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: freaking out.

1290
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying this to say to you.

1291
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: You were gorgeous to talk to you. I had so

1292
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: much fun, you were so great.

1293
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 3: I uh, well, we'll see how the wider public feels.

1294
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 3: They might burn me down.

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Speaker 1: We've had to edit a lot of it out, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, God bless So now walk me through this game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Gift Master, this is how we play. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: name three gifts, okay, and I'm gonna name three celebrities. Yep,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna tell me which gift you can you'll give,

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Speaker 3: which celebrity and why. Okay, that makes perfect sense. Yes,

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Speaker 3: this doesn't need to be repeated.

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Speaker 1: Nope.

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00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 3: Okay, these are the three gifts you'll be giving today.

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Speaker 3: Number one, a golden lockett. That's a nice little gift. Okay.

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00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: Number two singing lessons, that's not a bad gift. Those

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00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: are expensive. Number three a good scare, so that you'll

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00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: be giving them a good scare. And the celebrities are

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Speaker 3: number one Russell Crowe, okay, Number two Barbara Hershey, this

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Speaker 3: is list. This is a good list, and number three

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Speaker 3: Haruki Murakami. Are you familiar Japanese author? That's all you

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 3: need to know? Okay, excellent Japanese author.

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00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna get can I say I already know?

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00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: Okay? Great.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving the lockett to the author because and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why, because I feel like so much of

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00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: writing is such like an insular kind of like not

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00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: always like super appreciated profession. So to be able to

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Speaker 1: give some again, to echo your sentiment about having something

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00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: that's tangible before the grid goes down, Like imagine gifting

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00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: someone or just little lockett and being like, thank you

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00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: for your work, even though I have no idea who

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00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: you are.

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Speaker 3: You know, like I think that the lockett is a

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00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: great it's kind of a like an elevated candle gift. Yes,

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00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: it's like I don't really know anything, but this is

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00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 3: beautiful and you can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: And also, if someone gave me a lockett, I'm like,

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00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: are we literally meeting in hundreds? And are you about

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00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: to marry me? Because I will say yes, I'm gonna

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00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: give a good was that a good scare?

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00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: A good scare?

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Speaker 1: Diva? You know, I'm giving that to Barbara Hershey because

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: I just you know, I I want her to I

1334
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: want her to feel like, at this phase of her

1335
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: life she can still be surprised, because you know, sometimes

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00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: when we get older, we have the sense of we

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00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: we again, we know our ritual, we know our routine,

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Speaker 1: we have a sense of who we are. But imagine,

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00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: imagine Barbara Hershey. She thinks she's all just snug and

1340
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: tucked away living. God knows where we're doing, God knows

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00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: what well I mean, Barbara, reach out, Barbara. We'd love

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00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: to have you on the pods and and so I

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00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: just think it'd be fun. And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: I don't want it to be too scary. I don't

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Speaker 1: want her to be like, you know, I don't want

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00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: there to be any sort of you know, medical incident. Okay, okay,

1347
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: but I just imagine, just mean jumping out of you know,

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Speaker 1: out of a bush maybe and just going like huzzah,

1349
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: and then her going like oh. And then and then

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00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, Barbara, it was a gift from Bridger. And

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00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: then she's like that bridge she's already writing the thank

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Speaker 1: you note. Absolutely, she's running to her desk. And here's

1353
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: the thing. If any of us saw Le miserabla, I

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00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: think we absolutely know that Russell Crowe just needs that

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00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: singing lesson, because here's the thing. Here's what I appreciate

1356
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: about the vocal. I love the attack. Okay, he knows

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00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: does he does he have the greatest voice? No? And

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00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: does that hold him back?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: And that's actually really powerful that he still hops on

1361
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 1: that mic and gives it his all. He doesn't sing

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Speaker 1: with his diaphragm at all. It's coming straight from his throat,

1363
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Speaker 1: which is in itself so powerful. And I think we

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Speaker 1: can agree a choice. But like to me, I just think, like,

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00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: imagine if you took that fervor had the foundation of

1366
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: a technique and there it is technique and skill, and

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: then he could truly be unstoppable. I mean, apparently he's

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00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: done quite well for himself. This is what I hear

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00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: but I still.

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Speaker 3: Think like he's on a downhill slide. And imagine Russell

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Speaker 3: reach out.

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Speaker 1: And imagine if out of nowhere, how about this as

1373
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: as like a scenario because everyone is kind of like

1374
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: shit talking is singing from limz right. Imagine if out

1375
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Speaker 1: of Nowhere he did like a Broadway musical and everyone

1376
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: was kind of prepared for him to be like, oh god,

1377
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: this is gonna be good Russell Crowe. But if secretly

1378
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: he'd been taking intense voice lessons for a year and

1379
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Speaker 1: then he just and then he just emerged on the

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Speaker 1: stage like what our generation's fucking Mandy Patinkin. I mean,

1381
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: no one could be Mandy Patinkin and also use different

1382
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, think who was the original guy in Le

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: miz Uh? He was an also French Canadian?

1384
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Speaker 3: Oh interesting fact? Was it his final role? No?

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: And I want to say he played Valjean. But anyway,

1386
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: but I'm a very similar kind of like baritone deep

1387
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: voice typing to a Russell Crowe. So imagine if he

1388
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: emerged as him. There are so many theater nerds that

1389
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: are screaming his name at me right now. Of course,

1390
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean they are going to the ball, I know,

1391
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, I can tell that

1392
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: Analie is doing a fervent Google's the browse furrowed, her

1393
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: glasses are sliding down her nose. She is ready to go.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this would change Russell Crowe's career in the

1395
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 3: biggest possible way.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens with so many actors. They do like

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Speaker 1: once they arguably even though he never had like a

1398
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: dip in popularity, but like, even like a Daniel Radcliffe,

1399
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: he got like such a big push when he didn't

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00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: when he showed his wang on stage in equist and

1401
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: then when he did how to succeed in business not

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: really trying, and now he's on Broadway again with I.

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: Feel like he's making a very smart career.

1404
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: Moves one thousand percent. And also what I love about

1405
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: him too is like it didn't take him a beat,

1406
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: nothing at all. The second JK Rowley came out with

1407
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: her transphobic bullshit, Daniel Radcliffe incredible. Daniel Radcliffe was also like,

1408
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: so that's not right, and I was like, so absolutely

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00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: it's isn't it so easy to be plugged into your humanity.

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00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: Just say things that are true yep, and that are decent. Absolutely, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we love him, and we could love Russell Russell, take

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01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 3: the lesson.

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01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: Take the lesson, and we would love to. And if

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01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: you're serious, Russell, I'm gonna say this to you. If

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: you're listening, and if.

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01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: You're serious, he is, he's left a review.

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01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: If you're serious, we're serious. And if you really are

1418
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: serious about your commitment to your voice, I'm sorry, I'm

1419
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: looping you into this bridge and I will co sign

1420
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: and pay for your voice.

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01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: We'll finance the lesson.

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01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: We absolutely will up to up to fifty dollars an absolutely, absolutely,

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: and fifty Canadian dollars also Canadian.

1424
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like actually, I can't do the math of.

1425
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: How that would work the proxim with sixty five American dollars.

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01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: Sixty five American dollars. I always hate to see that.

1427
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 3: The Canadian price, and then in a book cover always

1428
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 3: hurts my.

1429
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: Heart because you're like, god, it could be that, huh yeah,

1430
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: And then here I am, like with literal like durda

1431
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: my face, paying an American price for a book, being like, well,

1432
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: i feel like I'm being robbed blind.

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Speaker 3: Okay, excellently played, beautifully played, thank you, I mean the

1434
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: pieces and you don't even know who Haruki is so like,

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01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: you nailed it.

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01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: Thank you. I listen. I realized it the game. But

1437
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: also I didn't come here to play. Does that make sense?

1438
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: Like, okay, do you have an answer on a Lisa

1439
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: And it's fine if you don't.

1440
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if he was the original one, but

1441
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 4: I did find a French Canadian actor named Oh gosh,

1442
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 4: I am I gonna butcher this a little bit, well as

1443
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: I am, I mean a little bit. This is Marian

1444
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 4: m A R I E n.

1445
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: No Ziva girl. Hang on Google, okay, Google, okay, hang

1446
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 1: on here.

1447
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: Also Colem Wilkinson. There we go Comb Wilkinson. Yes, c

1448
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: O M B c O L m oh Comb.

1449
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what I was thinking of. Okay, is

1450
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: the French Canadian watch? I like totally center down the

1451
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: wrong rabbit.

1452
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: Hole a little little song while I sing while I

1453
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: find it. Let's see. Sorry, this is we don't need

1454
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 3: to know?

1455
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: Yes you do, I actually do. Because here's the thing.

1456
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: If I was a podcast listener, and if I didn't

1457
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: find out if Cole Wilkinson's nationality.

1458
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 3: Irish Irish Wilkinson, of course, okay, then I'm obviously also

1459
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: thinking of a different actor here's the thing, guys, my

1460
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 3: Uber ride with Michael really threw me for a tizzy.

1461
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know left from right, up

1462
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: from down, Irish from Canadian. I mean, I'm obviously just

1463
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: on one.

1464
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 3: We've got to answer a listener question.

1465
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

1466
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 3: This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called

1467
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: I said no emails, and.

1468
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: If I may, are people having the audacity to send

1469
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: you an email?

1470
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: They're sending emails I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

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01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 3: I mean being it's overloaded with requests and questions and problems.

1472
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: Ludicrous.

1473
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: They're asking me to step into their lives and you know,

1474
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 3: correct or answer questions for them. Will you helpe me

1475
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: answer a question?

1476
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: Of course?

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01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 3: Okay, let's read this. It says, dear Bridge, you're a friend,

1478
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: that's me. What would you give a person who refuses

1479
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 3: to accept money for their time and talent? And how

1480
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 3: do you value an active kindness in order to reciprocate

1481
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 3: it appropriately? My acupuncture mentor won't accept payment for tutoring

1482
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: lessons and undercharges me for treatments when anyone asks for

1483
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: acupuncturist or herbalist recommendation. This person is of course my

1484
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 3: number one choice, but it doesn't feel like enough. I

1485
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: could just start supplying her with freshly baked bread and

1486
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: other culinary treats, but again, I feel my debt is

1487
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 3: far greater than a bit of flour and water? Am

1488
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: I being weirdly capitalist about this? How will I know

1489
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: when I've done enough without giving the impression that I'm

1490
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: asking for more and thus perpetuating the cycle? What would

1491
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: you do in such a situation? With sincere gratitude? And

1492
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 3: this person has not left in their name, they just

1493
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: said basic broke Berliner, a German is amongst us.

1494
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: There are two things I want to say, Okay, One,

1495
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: if you are already having a way to send money

1496
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: to this person, just send them the amount that you

1497
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: want to send them.

1498
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 3: Interesting, so like so for you, they're trapped in this

1499
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 3: toxic situation with their mentor.

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01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: So, first of all, to this broke berlinner, if this

1501
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: is not your situation, I'm sorry. But if you are

1502
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: already paying some stipends to this person, I'm going to

1503
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: assume there's already some kind point of payment situation that

1504
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: you have said up right, yes, so just send them

1505
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: the amount that you want to give them. Then and

1506
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: then just follow up with a note of like, let's

1507
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: say let's say they're charging you fifty and you want

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01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: to give them a hundred. The note that you send

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01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: with that one hundred dollars that you want to give

1510
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: them is I'm not having a conversation about this.

1511
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 3: But now this is what I have to say. Does

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01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: that then turn the mentor into an employee? No, I

1513
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: feel like the cut rate is like, well, we're friends,

1514
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 3: so the moment we're paying market rate, suddenly we're just

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01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: in business together.

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01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: Well, I have something that The other part of the

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01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: thing that I was going to suggest is if this

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: mentor of yours is also going to really be because

1519
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: here's what you also don't want to do. If someone's

1520
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: going to really assert themselves in saying like this is

1521
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: the rate I'm giving you your friend or your you know,

1522
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: my protege blah blah blah blah blah. You don't want

1523
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: someone to then go through the emotional labor of them

1524
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: having to like constantly be like no, no, no, please, no,

1525
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: don't give me that. So you know what I would do,

1526
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: So one of two things, Either you pay that forward

1527
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: to the next person where you go, you know, what

1528
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: someone did me the solid and kind of I knew

1529
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: they were under charging me and they were doing me

1530
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: a solid. So I'm going to do that for someone else.

1531
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's very sweet, And I'm gonna I'm going to

1532
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: pick a person who I think is maybe struggling financially,

1533
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: or maybe maybe they're not struggling fantasy, but maybe they

1534
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: have a real kind of like passion for what it

1535
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: is they're doing. And you want to reward that by

1536
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: being like, I see the direction you're going in, and

1537
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: so the thing that I would like to gift to

1538
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: you is this thing that someone gifted to me. It's

1539
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of pass paying it forward. The other thing I

1540
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: would say, if you do have this kind of like

1541
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: pseudo friend relationship with this mentor, pick up the billet dinner.

1542
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: It's so easy, it's so easy.

1543
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 3: Easy, easy. Yes, I mean here's what I'll say.

1544
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1545
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 3: This mentor obviously has some sort of hold on Berlin

1546
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 3: or some sort of control. There's a definite power imbalance. Yeah,

1547
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 3: I said it before, or I'll say it again. It's toxic. Okay,

1548
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 3: it's inescapable.

1549
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

1550
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 3: The Berliner obviously can't say no to discount rates, No,

1551
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: and therefore cannot escape. So what I'm gonna say is

1552
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: this is an opportunity for Berliner to take advantage of someone.

1553
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: Oh you're already doing it, okay, So just keep pushing

1554
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 3: the gas. You don't need to be baking bread. You

1555
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 3: don't need to be giving gifts. You know. The mentor

1556
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: is getting whatever they want out of this this little

1557
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: power dynamic. They're loving it. Okay, that's the gift for them.

1558
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: I just want everyone to know Bridger is also stroking

1559
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: a small white cat in his lap as he's devising

1560
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: this plan. Go ahead.

1561
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 3: Uh, that's all I have to say the mentor, any gift,

1562
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 3: would it be too much for this person? And it would?

1563
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: They would not like it. They love they love Berliner

1564
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: kind of being in their clutches. That's the payment.

1565
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: You think the mentor is slightly evil?

1566
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: I think completely this. This acupuncturist. I've never heard of

1567
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: one before, but now I know. Hmm, And of course

1568
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 3: they exist, and I have to now assume they're all manipulators.

1569
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: Well, they in a way kind of are, because they're

1570
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: jabbing needles into your body that are making you feel

1571
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: things and helping and helping the emotions rise to the surface.

1572
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: True, So they have a knowledge, your working knowledge of manipulation.

1573
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, I would say, yeah, Berlinard, I'm gonna

1574
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: say some of you right now. I really appreciate that

1575
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: you want to pay this forward and you want to

1576
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: do right and you want to be a good person,

1577
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: and that's all very nice, But do you want to

1578
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: know what's really exhausting if I was your mentor is

1579
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: whatever this conversation is. So they don't they don't want

1580
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: to accept it, and you've exerted, You've extended the offer,

1581
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: they've refused it, and so you just you leave it

1582
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: alone and again you then pay forward that as bridgerould

1583
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: call it manipulation to someone else, or you just pick

1584
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: up the tab when you go for dinner and just

1585
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: be like again, and you kind of just need to

1586
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: be the assertive adult and you kind of just need

1587
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: to say, like, I'm actually not having a conversation about this,

1588
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm buying you dinner. That's a okay, sure, listen. I'm

1589
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you should should or shouldn't do bridges idea.

1590
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm just saying, here's another option.

1591
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 3: It's always nice to have a backup despite how bad

1592
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 3: it is. Absolutely got. I just have something in the

1593
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 3: closet to cook up when you run out of ingredients.

1594
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: And you know what to this berliner, if you really

1595
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: feel like blowing up your life, do a Bridger is suggesting.

1596
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: I think that would be fun and a real a

1597
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: real gas.

1598
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 3: And the Berliner hasn't revealed their name, so they have

1599
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 3: an absolute cloak of secrecy right now. They continue, They

1600
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: do the manipulation, they do the advantage taking of do

1601
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 3: whatever you want.

1602
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: And in this society, that's real power that you have

1603
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: here is staying anonymous, which is what this person's must done.

1604
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: I mean, they have not sold their data to the podcast.

1605
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: No, so God, I appreciate that, god Less.

1606
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 3: We answered it perfectly.

1607
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I think I would agree.

1608
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 3: You know, we took a two prong approach and now

1609
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 3: this person's thrilled. Yeah, they better not right back.

1610
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: And also, as a general note for other listeners, maybe

1611
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: stop writing and emails. Pritcher doesn't want these.

1612
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 3: We don't want another email. Absolutely, I'm hanging by a thread.

1613
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: Here, I am with egg on my face, bringing a

1614
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: gift like a frick and moron because I've got the

1615
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: name of the podcast.

1616
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 3: Wrong, I'm sick to my stomach.

1617
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I commented Bridger you before and how great

1618
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: you look. Now you're an ashen color. The blood has

1619
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: fallen out of your face.

1620
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: I mean you are like several times during the podcast

1621
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 3: you had to revive me.

1622
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: And and you're not gonna hear that on the final

1623
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: product listeners. Why because we had to edit those pauses out.

1624
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: But it absolutely happened, and we have the medical bills

1625
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: to prove it, because it costs five hundred dollars.

1626
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: Corn ambulance.

1627
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, even more. Now this is my personal tusk,

1628
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: it is, this is your storms and I think we

1629
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: can all agree.

1630
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 3: Liam, I've had such a wonderful time. I'm so glad

1631
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 3: you could make it all the way from Vancouver.

1632
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: This I have to say, it was an absolute joy

1633
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: being on the show. It was lovely being able to

1634
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: meet you and a lily being able to like actually

1635
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: see you in person do the show. It means a

1636
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: lot that you would make time for me, so thank you.

1637
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,959
Speaker 3: Of course, it's the least I can do, the absolute least.

1638
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: Listen, the least would have been honestly nothing, So this

1639
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: is actually incredible.

1640
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 3: Thank you for being here and thank you for this

1641
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: beautiful and album.

1642
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: Ah well, your thank you, even though I inadvertently disobeyed you.

1643
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it. If and when you should

1644
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: ever get a.

1645
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 3: Record, it's gonna be sitting somewhere looking tasteful, collecting dusk collecting,

1646
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 3: absolutely absolutely absolutely not. Thank you again. Thank you listener.

1647
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 3: The podcast is over. You've got to do something else.

1648
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 3: Maybe you could listen to Tusk. Maybe you could sit

1649
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:41,480
Speaker 3: in quiet and just think about everything you've heard process,

1650
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 3: you know, just think critically about the podcast today and

1651
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: the layers, et cetera. Do whatever you want. I'll be

1652
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 3: back again soon. I love you, goodbye. I said No

1653
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 3: Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our

1654
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 3: dear friend Annalise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday.

1655
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: And we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Coottner.

1656
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle

1657
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 3: worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram

1658
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 3: at I said no Gifts, I don't want to hear

1659
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 3: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of

1660
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting and don't you want

1661
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 3: to see pictures of the gifts? He lie?

1662
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Why did you hear?

1663
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: Gonta made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest to me.

1664
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests.

1665
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 2: Your presences presents enough. I'm already too much stuff.

1666
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: So how do you dance?

1667
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: Survey me