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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Elliot Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Bronis,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and it's time for a
Speaker 1: morning after edition of Talking Cowboys. On a very windy
Speaker 1: Monday in Frisco, Texas, all of a sudden, about an
Speaker 1: hour ago, a blue northern blew in and the temperature
Speaker 1: to drop from about sixty four degrees to forty four
Speaker 1: degrees in no time at all. And the temperature has
Speaker 1: dropped on this Cowboys season here and after what happened
Speaker 1: last night, as we embark on the second half of
Speaker 1: this season, after the loss to the Vikings last night,
Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty four. But before we get into all
Speaker 1: of that, we want to wish a very good Veterans
Speaker 1: Day to everyone out there, very important day. Let's keep
Speaker 1: this stuff in perspective and just keep a thought for
Speaker 1: all of those who who make it possible for us
Speaker 1: to enjoy NFL football. And I know I've got some
Speaker 1: veterans in my family who've passed on, including my father
Speaker 1: who served in the Navy, and his brothers, one who
Speaker 1: died in the war, and it's very important holiday for
Speaker 1: all of us. Mickey, how are you doing, Rob, How
Speaker 1: are you doing doing good? My dad served in the
Speaker 1: army in World War Two? So yeah, was there the
Speaker 1: second D Day landed on Normandy Beach, Omaha Beach? As
Speaker 1: say in Normandy, it's well said, Bill, My dad Uncle's
Speaker 1: got to keep things in perspective, right, even on a
Speaker 1: day like this where it's a disappointing loss for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Hard fuck game, but you know they lost to a
Speaker 1: good team. Didn't make enough plays on either side of
Speaker 1: the ball at the end, yep, and it came right
Speaker 1: down to the wire. I know that many of you
Speaker 1: would like to chime in as well. We'll open up
Speaker 1: the phone lines here over the course of the next
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. You can do that at eight eight eight, eight, five,
Speaker 1: five two two nine seven. But let's start with your
Speaker 1: takeaways from what happened on Sunday night. Well, where to begin?
Speaker 1: It's a deep subject. It's very complicated, as I've simplified
Speaker 1: for my column that should be posted any time now.
Speaker 1: I thought the biggest takeaway was the Cowboys just basically
Speaker 1: got out physical, out muscled in that game. Both lines
Speaker 1: of scrimmage on offense couldn't run the ball. Defense they
Speaker 1: couldn't stop the run. And when you have problems with
Speaker 1: those two things, I don't care anything about your sky
Speaker 1: War offenses right there. It is at some point you
Speaker 1: got to stop the run, and at some point you've
Speaker 1: got to be able to run the ball at least
Speaker 1: a little bit to be able to keep balance. In
Speaker 1: this game, the Cowboys could do neither. And that's been
Speaker 1: a recipe for losses previously to very good teams when
Speaker 1: they can't stop the run. They couldn't stop the run
Speaker 1: against the Packers and they got beat. They had problems
Speaker 1: stopping some big plays against the Saints, they got beat.
Speaker 1: I'll take you back to last year in the playoff
Speaker 1: game against the Rams the regular season game against the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Coats. Those teams used the Cowboys aggressiveness defensively against them,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings did exactly the same thing, especially in
Speaker 1: the second half. So here we are with another close
Speaker 1: call down to the wire. If you've lost now your
Speaker 1: four games or three of the four games by a
Speaker 1: total of eight points and you're five and four, tied
Speaker 1: for first in the NFC East. And I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody's celebrating that it's still in front of you. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you start looking at the standings and you've
Speaker 1: lost some teams that it could come down to tiebreakers
Speaker 1: at the end, So you got to focus on your division.
Speaker 1: As far as Sunday night, it's it's funny how it's
Speaker 1: such a week to week league, right, you know, two games,
Speaker 1: the last two games, defensively they get seven takeaways. They
Speaker 1: do a really solid job all the way around defensively,
Speaker 1: and Mickey spoke to it. Dalvin Cook he's a different
Speaker 1: beast and they knew that coming in. They did a
Speaker 1: nice job on him running against the run for a half.
Speaker 1: I think he had twenty seven yards at halftime, but
Speaker 1: he also had that's the other part of his game.
Speaker 1: And I talked about it during the week. There's a
Speaker 1: little bit of Barkley to him, sae quon Barkley. His
Speaker 1: ability in the passing game in those two screens led
Speaker 1: to two early touchdowns, especially when there's no defensive guys
Speaker 1: in front of him. Well, they did a nice job
Speaker 1: locking it up you know, I think that the second
Speaker 1: one he had for thirty yards, you saw two guys
Speaker 1: push Sean Lee out of bounds and out of the play.
Speaker 1: I mean, they really execute those well. And as Mickey said,
Speaker 1: as the second half got rolling, they kind of controlled
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, not only with Cook but with Madison,
Speaker 1: their rookie did a nice job running the ball. They
Speaker 1: went with two tight ends a lot, they went with
Speaker 1: the fullback, and they just lined up and did what
Speaker 1: they had to do, physical running football, and that was
Speaker 1: the difference offensively. Of course, Dak was tarrendous and they
Speaker 1: made a lot of plays in the passing game. So Bill, yes,
Speaker 1: have you ever seen? And I wish I could go
Speaker 1: back and count up the plays. How many times the
Speaker 1: Viking used twelve personnel, twenty two personnel and thirteen personnel
Speaker 1: in a game. It was almost like, we gotta sign
Speaker 1: up here. We are gonna run right at you, and
Speaker 1: I don't care if you know we're coming. I don't
Speaker 1: care if we've got two tight ends in a full
Speaker 1: back out there with a running back, or if we've
Speaker 1: got just three tight ends, one wide receiver and a
Speaker 1: running back. We are going to run right at you.
Speaker 1: They made no bones about it. They didn't disguise it.
Speaker 1: They went old school with c. J. Hamm at full backs. Yes,
Speaker 1: and and I don't know what you do, you know,
Speaker 1: can you go with five defensive linemen and just three
Speaker 1: defensive backs because they weren't going to throw it? But
Speaker 1: that none of that is a surprise. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: they they what they have done. I assumed throughout the season.
Speaker 1: I know recently in fact, last week CJ. Hamm had
Speaker 1: twenty two snaps. And we talked about it last week
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys will see more two tight end or
Speaker 1: fullback in a tight end or three tight end formations
Speaker 1: in this game than they've seen all season. Because I
Speaker 1: mean even like last week, Rudolph and and Herb Smith,
Speaker 1: they were both one was on the field for fifty
Speaker 1: five plays, the other forty three plays. Leakwin Treadwell was
Speaker 1: their third receivers only on the field for twenty snaps
Speaker 1: in the entire game. We go and I haven't looked
Speaker 1: at the snap counts for this week yet, but it
Speaker 1: shouldn't come as a surprise that that was what they
Speaker 1: were going to do. And that is how they built
Speaker 1: this team. They already had a second round draft pick
Speaker 1: in Dalvin Cook, and they spent a third round draft
Speaker 1: pick on Madison this year because they want to emphasize
Speaker 1: and help out their quarterback. It was prone to mistakes.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to run the football. Mickey
Speaker 1: and I talked about that on the walk out two
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, that this isn't Washington for Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've Cowboys have played him a lot. He'll
Speaker 1: give you a turnover every now, at least in Washington.
Speaker 1: He did. He's only got three picks in this game
Speaker 1: or this season, no takeaways for the Cowboys. He did
Speaker 1: an effective job managing the game and he got his
Speaker 1: tight ends involved, especially down in the red zone. It
Speaker 1: was it was good, just good balance and you know,
Speaker 1: good game plan for Minnesota. And not only did they
Speaker 1: run for one hundred and fifty three yards, but their
Speaker 1: three leading receivers in the game were a running back,
Speaker 1: a tight end, and a tight end. Those guys counted
Speaker 1: for six teen passes, sixteen receptions. Diggs he made one
Speaker 1: play in the entire game, and oh what a play
Speaker 1: it was, and it was worth three points, right, and
Speaker 1: important three points because if they don't get that field
Speaker 1: goal at the end of the half. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a different story on the last basically the last
Speaker 1: full drive the Cowboys had possessioned in the game. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, another reason that it would was no
Speaker 1: surprise they would have this game plan is the fact
Speaker 1: they were playing without their best receiver, Adam Feeling. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you look at the box score and you say, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's no Feeling Diggs is gonna get you three catches
Speaker 1: for forty nine yards. You're taken that. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would take that, But you also don't want seven
Speaker 1: catches for eighty six by Dalvin Cook. And he's got
Speaker 1: eight out of nine games this year one hundred and
Speaker 1: all purpose yards plus. I mean, the guys, he's outstanding.
Speaker 1: He slipped through tackles, explosive at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's He's the best back they've seen this
Speaker 1: year in terms of what the production on the field,
Speaker 1: better than Barkley, especially the way the Vikings use him.
Speaker 1: There are times where the Giants don't use Barkley when
Speaker 1: they should be using him. Guy On, Barkley only had
Speaker 1: one yard on thirteen carries yesterday right against the Jets.
Speaker 1: And by the way, speaking of the Jets, Okay, this
Speaker 1: game right here, it was a terrific matchup. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you set back and look at it, it was
Speaker 1: a terrific matchup for a Sunday night marquee. Two offenses
Speaker 1: going at each other, all right, one team's gotta win,
Speaker 1: one team's gotta lose, okay. And what it underscores more
Speaker 1: than anything is the ridiculousness of the loss to the Jets.
Speaker 1: I mean, that Jets loss is going to come back
Speaker 1: and haunt this team. And because these games against the Vikings, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go either way. Yeah, it's gonna go either way.
Speaker 1: The game in two weeks from now against the Patriots,
Speaker 1: it can go either way. The result here is disappointing,
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't shock you. Then. I think we all
Speaker 1: thought this would be a pretty close contest. That's why
Speaker 1: you gotta take care of business against the teams that
Speaker 1: they've all the other teams that they have taken care
Speaker 1: of business against, And so I mean they should be
Speaker 1: sitting here six and three instead of five and four
Speaker 1: if they would have taken care of business against the
Speaker 1: Jets like you guys are coming over to my dark
Speaker 1: side on that. I was always there. I mean, it happened.
Speaker 1: It's gonna come back at some point. It's gonna come
Speaker 1: back in Well, they have to get one of these.
Speaker 1: They have to get these wins, like the Patriots. They
Speaker 1: need to get a win now. I mean the importance
Speaker 1: of its Detroit game is just through the roof right
Speaker 1: now when you look at you got the Patriots the
Speaker 1: next week. But but they need to steal a win
Speaker 1: in New England to upset the Jets loss. Oh, no question.
Speaker 1: And these those losses happen. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 1: a division game. But the Saints lose to a one
Speaker 1: and seven Falcons team yesterday at home. Yeah, those losses happen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're gonna have to be able to steal one.
Speaker 1: This would have been a nice one for sure. The
Speaker 1: difference is the Saints got that win with their backup
Speaker 1: quarterback against the Cowboys. Yeah to to opset I yesterday. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: same recipe though, right fall behind, slow start, and you
Speaker 1: know what I did? You explain it if it's one thing,
Speaker 1: But it's one thing. If your offense malfunctions or didn't malfunctions,
Speaker 1: they had they ended up with two thirds and sixes
Speaker 1: on those first two possessions, and they didn't They didn't convert.
Speaker 1: They tried a fifty seven yard field goal and it
Speaker 1: was the worst field goal attempt ever ever that he missed.
Speaker 1: That was terrible. God, you never gave the ball a chance, right,
Speaker 1: But that doesn't he missed it by fifty seven yards. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: but it was he didn't hit it. It was like
Speaker 1: a lion. He didn't get the foot on it. Ken
Speaker 1: Harrelson duck snort, it's over my head. But okay, but okay,
Speaker 1: So you don't score your first two possessions, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean the defense has to give up two touchdowns
Speaker 1: on the first. Well, well, you you miss a fifty
Speaker 1: seven yard field goal and it's like a turnover. Yeah
Speaker 1: it is. You're in the ball at midfield. And so
Speaker 1: you wonder if okay, we've fallen in love a little
Speaker 1: too much with the long field goals. That one. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't put it on the defense. I know
Speaker 1: they gave up a touchdown, but like Mickey said, Minnesota
Speaker 1: starts at their own forty seven. And I looked at
Speaker 1: up Maher's fourteen of twenty this year on field goals.
Speaker 1: He's four of eight fifty plus and I know a
Speaker 1: couple I think we're sixty plus that he hit. It's
Speaker 1: not a gimme, you know, it's not a gimme fifty
Speaker 1: proposition that you're gonna basically have a turnover. Yeah there,
Speaker 1: And I know Jason Garrett said they got a lot
Speaker 1: of faith in him, and they should. He's great from
Speaker 1: that distance, but he's not. He's not automatic and it
Speaker 1: you know that that was a momentum swing early, no question,
Speaker 1: but at least give the ball a chance, like if
Speaker 1: it came up short or if it was just wide
Speaker 1: to the right or hit the upright. All right, fine,
Speaker 1: this thing landed over almost to the sideline. It seemed like,
Speaker 1: all right, I exaggerate, but i'd actually where it might
Speaker 1: have it. And I don't know if it ever got
Speaker 1: high enough to get over this cross. I think it
Speaker 1: went out. They ramp and it rolled up the hill
Speaker 1: and it wound up over by the ballpark in Armada.
Speaker 1: It was like it was trying to catch that cat
Speaker 1: from last week. Okay, all right, but the slow start.
Speaker 1: So that's seven of nine games they've been behind him.
Speaker 1: Explain it. And one of them that they worked behind.
Speaker 1: They were leading the Dolphins ten six at halftime. That's
Speaker 1: almost like being behind. What's that? What's the reason for
Speaker 1: this time? They just didn't execute and they didn't play
Speaker 1: good defense. I mean the first couple of possessions they
Speaker 1: and this was no surprise either. They blitzed right shocking.
Speaker 1: You said that during the week. We know on third
Speaker 1: down they're coming after you. And they created problems early
Speaker 1: in the game until the Cowboys. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they adjusted or they finally beat it enough that they
Speaker 1: backed off, and that's probably why they ended up with
Speaker 1: what four hundred, four hundred and forty seven yards offense
Speaker 1: and dac three ninety seven passing. I thought Dak got
Speaker 1: some nice protection in the second half, but some of
Speaker 1: it But was him too yeah, oh by an extra time?
Speaker 1: He was. He was amazing in the game, no question
Speaker 1: about it. Um. But I think he got hit nine times, yes,
Speaker 1: and they got after him and and uh, like we
Speaker 1: talked about it, Griffin on one edge Hunter on the other.
Speaker 1: There that's a that's a load, um. But they made
Speaker 1: a lot of plays in the passing game. I know
Speaker 1: that one of the narratives coming out is going to
Speaker 1: be did they run too much, particularly on first down?
Speaker 1: And Jason Garrett on the fan this morning, I think
Speaker 1: alluded to it. You alluded to it to Mick. When
Speaker 1: you're blitzing like that, you're trying to establish some semblance
Speaker 1: of balance. They try to do that against the Jets,
Speaker 1: to just try to keep them away, keep them back way.
Speaker 1: Jason was saying this this morning, well when he said,
Speaker 1: you're trying to keep them at least a little bit
Speaker 1: honest if you can, um, because they were, and I
Speaker 1: think that's his quote in Jason there hell bent on
Speaker 1: stopping the run and U and they did. They did
Speaker 1: burn them on the blitz, especially with some of those
Speaker 1: crossing routes and those slants by Mari. But they really
Speaker 1: did sell out to stop Zeke and two point four
Speaker 1: yards of carry. And then obviously we can get we
Speaker 1: can get into that late drive as well. And why
Speaker 1: don't we do that when we come back here on
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Speaker 1: to the Chicago Bears. All right, let's dive into the
Speaker 1: second to last possession for the Cowboys against the Vikings.
Speaker 1: They matriculate their way all the way down the field.
Speaker 1: I started with a terrific pass from dactor Randall Cobb
Speaker 1: to get out of a hole, and they're moving it
Speaker 1: down the field and then they get down to a
Speaker 1: second and two at what the twelve yard liner? So
Speaker 1: and two straight run plays. What do you think with
Speaker 1: those two calls? Go ahead? Mick? I was okay, I
Speaker 1: would say with the first one because it was two
Speaker 1: yards right. The second one, Zeke said it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be an RPO, but it didn't matter what they
Speaker 1: had called on that um because the defensive lineman blew
Speaker 1: up the play and the Cowboys had to do better
Speaker 1: job of blocking on that play. Uh, it's third and
Speaker 1: basically third and goal at the eleven, and what happened
Speaker 1: third and well, yeah, third and two. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: put a goal there, the third and two at the
Speaker 1: eleven and odin Ogbo good enough. It's pretty close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, that's what the pronunciation thing says. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's it really yeah, Okay, Um, it's wrong too. Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: Connor Williams gets the right shoulder on him. He cut
Speaker 1: to the inside it and I can't tell what he
Speaker 1: was supposed to do because he kind of got him
Speaker 1: and then he went to the second level. So to me,
Speaker 1: there there there were is not going to be a
Speaker 1: pass play because if if he had pulled the ball back,
Speaker 1: he was down field already. And unfortunately he didn't get
Speaker 1: enough of them because by time Travis Frederick came over,
Speaker 1: he got through and he blew up the play for
Speaker 1: what was it a three yard loss? So but here's
Speaker 1: what I go back to. So how about the third
Speaker 1: to the last possession, you got first in goal at
Speaker 1: the six yard line, you run zeke for nothing or
Speaker 1: one yard where they get a field goal. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then what did you do the next two plays, by
Speaker 1: the way, tried to throw and Stephen Weatherly comes in
Speaker 1: and blows the play up, and you got to throw
Speaker 1: the ball away out of bounds to save from getting
Speaker 1: a sack. All right, and down third down? What did
Speaker 1: they do? Through the ball again and over the middle
Speaker 1: to Jason Witten in the end zone and Kendricks runs
Speaker 1: into him, he gets knocked down, the ball goes incomplete.
Speaker 1: I had Harrison Smith, but good enough. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: go back and look at it, by the way, and
Speaker 1: then you got to kick a field goal. So you
Speaker 1: left four points on the field on a first and
Speaker 1: goal at the six. You threw the ball twice and
Speaker 1: it didn't work. Next time, you ran the ball twice
Speaker 1: and it didn't work. So which which is at fault
Speaker 1: because those four points you left on the field that
Speaker 1: first time you cost you the game. Yeah, they went
Speaker 1: one for three in the red zone and and missed
Speaker 1: a field goal. You know, that's that's pretty much the
Speaker 1: difference in the game right there. That last the second
Speaker 1: to last drive your reference, Bill, I mean, on the RPO,
Speaker 1: the defense is going to dictate basically what you got
Speaker 1: to do there. Um. Amari Cooper was asked about it,
Speaker 1: you know, second and he said, a second and two,
Speaker 1: it's Zeke. You know we're gonna run the ball with Zeke.
Speaker 1: It's Zeke Elliott. Yeah, I had I had no problem
Speaker 1: with the second and two run of Zeke. And you're trying,
Speaker 1: I mean, am I wrong that you're you're trying not
Speaker 1: to leave. You think you're you haven't scored, you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna score, or your confident you can score, but
Speaker 1: you don't want to leave too much time in the
Speaker 1: clock see Green Bay Playoff game twenty January twenty seventeen. Um,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. They didn't get there. And you also
Speaker 1: want to keep your time outs. Yeah, that too, but
Speaker 1: you know Zeke gets gets stopped there. I think his
Speaker 1: longest rush in the game was was six yards. I mean,
Speaker 1: they did it, like Mickey said, they did a good
Speaker 1: job at the at the point of attack with the
Speaker 1: Vikings defensive line and the stat from David Moore, I
Speaker 1: don't know, did you. I guess you looked it up
Speaker 1: as yourself as well. I think it was Bob Thomas.
Speaker 1: Was it Bob Thomas? Actually it's in it's in the
Speaker 1: I was surprised. It's in the record portion of the
Speaker 1: media guide. Okay, third time in franchise history they did
Speaker 1: not run for a first down in a game. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that tells you everything you need to know about
Speaker 1: about you know, their their struggles to get balanced in
Speaker 1: this game. You let me tell you how bad that is.
Speaker 1: How bad is that? So the last time that occurred
Speaker 1: was two thousand and seven, the final game of the season,
Speaker 1: when they basically punted against the Redskins. Remember they pulled
Speaker 1: everybody out. They already had their record. I think of
Speaker 1: what it was going to be if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: no rushing first towns. And the last time before that
Speaker 1: that had happened nineteen sixty four, nineteen seventy November eleventh,
Speaker 1: fifty seasons ago to the day m nineteen seventy, I
Speaker 1: think it would be forty nine. Now it was fifty
Speaker 1: either seasons. Okay, seasons here a long time, I got you.
Speaker 1: So that's how rare what you saw yesterday was fifty
Speaker 1: fifty seasons, not years. Okay, let's go what that's like.
Speaker 1: This is the sixtieth season. My reaction the third and
Speaker 1: two run was what are they doing? Yeah? So I'm
Speaker 1: second to two. I had no problem running at third
Speaker 1: and two. I was like, whoa and what is that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you get to fourth down and it's it's
Speaker 1: to Zeke out out wide. Um, it looked like he
Speaker 1: might have had Cobb on that play, but I think
Speaker 1: he had Cobby. It looked like he had a step.
Speaker 1: But obviously you're you're rushed in that decision. You got
Speaker 1: to you gotta make one quickly. He gave up looking
Speaker 1: to the right. He looked to the right initially to
Speaker 1: see what they did with Cooper and they had a
Speaker 1: guy over the top of Cooper and they ran somebody
Speaker 1: underneath them, so the slant wasn't there. And he quickly
Speaker 1: came off of it and he focused on Zeke and
Speaker 1: Cobb was breaking over the middle. Looked like he was open,
Speaker 1: but he never saw him. All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: Scott in Jersey. You're first up here on talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Hello Scott, Hey, guys, good morning. Tough game last night. Um,
Speaker 1: you know the Cowboys. The Cowboys are right there, and
Speaker 1: I hate to harp on it, but the coaching last
Speaker 1: night was terrible on both sides of the ball. We
Speaker 1: just can't adjust how do you go for a fifty
Speaker 1: yard field goal? Fifty four yard field goal when your
Speaker 1: first drive stalls out, you gotta punt that ball. You
Speaker 1: gotta play defense. You don't know if Cook's gonna run
Speaker 1: through you. But then again, then there's a fifty four
Speaker 1: yard field goal. Again he doesn't vote for he punts it.
Speaker 1: And not throwing the flag on Winton in the end zone.
Speaker 1: It's I know you guys even say it's eleven percent
Speaker 1: chance of it's overturning, but that was probably if anyone's
Speaker 1: gonna get overturned, that one's gonna get overturned. And one
Speaker 1: other thing is with the coaching. When they're down, they're
Speaker 1: down late in the game, you don't kick that field goals.
Speaker 1: You got to go for the touchdown. And then maybe
Speaker 1: later on with another drive, you can do a fifty
Speaker 1: four yard field goal, which would be totally acceptable. But
Speaker 1: the coaching, the coaching in all aspects last night was
Speaker 1: just broken down. They don't adjust. They just don't adjust.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking my call and still a cowboy
Speaker 1: fan for the rest of my life, and let's go
Speaker 1: get him and beat up Detroit next week. It's hard
Speaker 1: to be a fan it is is you win a
Speaker 1: couple of games in a row, you think like you're
Speaker 1: building momentum. All right, let me throw you a crazy
Speaker 1: thing out there. And there's no way a coach would
Speaker 1: ever do this. But once it got down on that
Speaker 1: second to last possession, you wanted to kick the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I wanted them to kick the field. Go,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what if to go down to go down one? Now? Okay,
Speaker 1: listen to this, listen to this. Hear me out on this. Okay,
Speaker 1: you had three time outs left, Okay, So what happened
Speaker 1: as it turns out, Okay, he falls forward three times
Speaker 1: and punts Minnesota. Minnesota punt it and you got the
Speaker 1: ball bat well, And that's another question on the punt return, Tavon,
Speaker 1: That wasn't that the fair catch? Jason Garrett was asked
Speaker 1: about that, By the way, he said, they told him
Speaker 1: if if you don't feel like you've got a good
Speaker 1: opportunity to go north and south, you make the decision,
Speaker 1: and he judged it. Tavon did and said, well, let's
Speaker 1: not waste time on the clock and let's just fair
Speaker 1: catch it. Okay. But but as crazy as this sound,
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. You got three timeouts left,
Speaker 1: and with whatever Minnesota called time out with forty two
Speaker 1: seconds left on the fourth before the fourth and five play,
Speaker 1: you kick the field goal and you make it a
Speaker 1: one point game. You don't on sidekick, Okay, you can't
Speaker 1: if you won, but you don't. You're not gonna get
Speaker 1: get it on sidekick. You're gon't on sidekick. You kick
Speaker 1: it deep. Same scenario plays out, you stop them three times.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna have a little less No, you won't.
Speaker 1: You'll have the same amount of time left, okay, because
Speaker 1: you kick it through the end zone. They take it
Speaker 1: at twenty five okay, and you're gonna have a little
Speaker 1: bit more yardage you'll have to make up. But you
Speaker 1: got a kicker. You can kick sixty yard field goal.
Speaker 1: Where'd they get down to on that last drive? As
Speaker 1: it was? Anyway they got to the It's crazy, but
Speaker 1: if if a coach really believed in his team that
Speaker 1: they could stop him and believe in your kicker and everything,
Speaker 1: it would be unbelievable if they did that. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see Twitter if that didn't do. Yeah, imagine they
Speaker 1: got they got to the Minnesota forty five. Just remember
Speaker 1: though they they started they started at the fourteen right,
Speaker 1: so there's ten yard difference there and they ended up
Speaker 1: but they didn't even try. All they wanted to do
Speaker 1: was soaked the clock. And because they knew get the
Speaker 1: time out, because they knew that the Cowboys needed a touchdown, right,
Speaker 1: so their approach offensively, what would be different, especially on
Speaker 1: three being up just one nor the Cowboys had a
Speaker 1: kicker who can kick a sixty three yards. You're not
Speaker 1: just automatically running the ball into That's why you can't
Speaker 1: play that game. But to night, that thought crossed my
Speaker 1: by that how at least they were going to get
Speaker 1: the ball at the twenty five right, and then when
Speaker 1: they punted, you're not catching the punt at the what
Speaker 1: did they catch it at the forty six? You know
Speaker 1: he could have gained He could have gained easily ten
Speaker 1: yards before he went out of bounds on the left sideline,
Speaker 1: but the time would would have taken Instead of seventeen seconds,
Speaker 1: you probably would have had twelve. What you think about, well,
Speaker 1: and then you don't have to you didn't have to
Speaker 1: go out of bound. No, he didn't, I understand, but
Speaker 1: he would have because that's where he was headed. That's
Speaker 1: where the opening was. But again, to me, it was
Speaker 1: in his mind that he was calling a fair catch
Speaker 1: because he didn't even look to see where everybody was.
Speaker 1: He was already And what you see Jason said about it, Well,
Speaker 1: they told him if if you don't see an opportunity
Speaker 1: nor south, don't waste any time, you know, make and
Speaker 1: so it sounded like he d have vision, he did
Speaker 1: have a green light that he could do it if
Speaker 1: he saw the opportunity. Yeah, it wasn't like they just
Speaker 1: told him flat out fair catch. It the veteran putt returner.
Speaker 1: They left it up to him, I think. Did Jason
Speaker 1: not say in hindsight, maybe you do that a little differently? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he could have He probably could have gained ten yards,
Speaker 1: but it would have taken five seconds, but run a
Speaker 1: play would take the five seconds too, right right, I mean,
Speaker 1: well they ended up getting four plays out of it,
Speaker 1: right right. Yeah, they didn't. They didn't go for the
Speaker 1: hell Mary early. They tried this is what they do
Speaker 1: before the half sometimes with Witton or Jarwin. They tried
Speaker 1: to get those quick outs and just get out of
Speaker 1: bounds and give yourself a little a little closer should
Speaker 1: have fooled him and tried to hail Mary twice. Well,
Speaker 1: it's see, if you got a little bit closer there,
Speaker 1: then you can try that hail mary twice. Zimmer's response was,
Speaker 1: the other problem on take on the hail Mary twice.
Speaker 1: It takes longer to run that play that well, it
Speaker 1: can't get intercepted, it can't get The thing I thought
Speaker 1: about was like, and Nick did too, It's like, and
Speaker 1: I doubt this is the case, but you are you
Speaker 1: worried about a penalty block in the back or something.
Speaker 1: Just don't do anything that's going to compromise our field
Speaker 1: position here. Just fair catch it and then let's let's
Speaker 1: start from there. But the other case, the other part
Speaker 1: of that was he wasn't going to have any blockers
Speaker 1: because they all rushed, so they probably wouldn't have committed
Speaker 1: a penalty if you just told him rushed and stand there.
Speaker 1: So it was a it was a you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: he could have caught it and got some more yards,
Speaker 1: but it would have burned some clock, so, um, well,
Speaker 1: what they're scared of it? He would have done one
Speaker 1: in his whirlish derby the type things and try to
Speaker 1: run this way and run that way, and the next
Speaker 1: thing you know, there's five seconds left in the game. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and in he might have done that. Wh I think
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Speaker 1: good morning, gentlemen. I appreciate all the hard work you
Speaker 1: do on your show. I listened to it faithfully, so
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Um. Going into the game last night,
Speaker 1: I feel like the game was lost in the flesh quarter.
Speaker 1: We just could not get it going offensively or defensively.
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering why the coaching staff has this hubris
Speaker 1: or attitude that we're going to do what we're going
Speaker 1: to do and it's going to be that way, and
Speaker 1: that's it. With good coaching dictates that you change your
Speaker 1: game plan according to what other teams give you. And
Speaker 1: I feel our coaching staff just doesn't meet the task
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. They don't adjust and change
Speaker 1: to what the defense will give him. Last night, Dak
Speaker 1: had the hot hand clearly, but they didn't want to
Speaker 1: seem to go with that. They wanted to seem to
Speaker 1: try to pound at will. The ball was zeke. You
Speaker 1: just have to give what the defense gives you and
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen to your analysis. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1: Well that it was a great word there, Hubris. That
Speaker 1: is our word of the day, Hubris, which he ascribes
Speaker 1: a personality quality of extreme or foolish pride or dangerous overconfidence,
Speaker 1: often in combination with arrogance our nerve. There's another word
Speaker 1: starts with a be with it too. Your eyebrows raised
Speaker 1: a Hubri smick. What do you think of that? So
Speaker 1: I was wondering what he was talking about, because that's
Speaker 1: why I looked up Hubris. The Vikings were not overplaying
Speaker 1: the run. They were basically inviting them to run. They
Speaker 1: were blitzing a lot, but they were blitzing on passing downs.
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of aid and nine man fronts.
Speaker 1: They were basically when they did that, the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: throwing the ball when they got bottled up there on
Speaker 1: that last possession when they went three wide, they had
Speaker 1: four down linemen and two linebackers and that was it.
Speaker 1: So I would like to know what he mentioned. The
Speaker 1: first two possessions, they basically moved the ball and they
Speaker 1: threw it. So I'm not sure what he meant by that.
Speaker 1: I guess running on first time, what if you run
Speaker 1: on second down? Is that okay? Like, throw it on
Speaker 1: first down and run on second down? Does that make
Speaker 1: everybody feel better? They did run a lot on first down,
Speaker 1: they did, and found themselves in a lot of second
Speaker 1: and nine, and I mean, I mean that was the case.
Speaker 1: I think the first wet drives they went and Zeke
Speaker 1: went for three, and then he went for two, and
Speaker 1: then he went for four, and then the first downs, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they threw and they converted on the first two,
Speaker 1: and then they kicked the field goal on the third
Speaker 1: after getting the second first down. I mean, all that said,
Speaker 1: dak Press got through forty six times. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's not like they didn't they refused to take advantage
Speaker 1: in the passing game, but they did run a lot
Speaker 1: on first down, and they didn't have success doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't can't argue that point. So what
Speaker 1: if you don't have success running on second down? Is
Speaker 1: that lessen the Okay, well, okay, wait a second. Let's
Speaker 1: go to their first touchdown drive. They Yeah, they ran
Speaker 1: first and ten, they ran Zeke plus two, then they
Speaker 1: threw it on second and they got sacked, and then
Speaker 1: they had a great twenty yard completion to Cooper to
Speaker 1: keep the drive alive on third and twelve. That's whereas
Speaker 1: and then they ran on the sideline there, tiptoe on
Speaker 1: these three circus catches, and then they didn't run Zeke,
Speaker 1: but they ran Tavon on the next first down, and
Speaker 1: then twenty three yard touchdown to Gallop. So that was
Speaker 1: a successful drive that started with a Zeke first down run. Okay,
Speaker 1: next time they had the ball, they were incomplete on
Speaker 1: first down through it to Cooper first down, then that
Speaker 1: first down Zeke minus two, but they were still able
Speaker 1: to convert a third and twelve to Gallop for fifteen.
Speaker 1: Then on that first down, it was Zeke plus six,
Speaker 1: longest run right, and then they got down to third
Speaker 1: down again and a complete to Jarwin for twenty three.
Speaker 1: And so they had two Zeke first down runs on
Speaker 1: that drive and it resulted in a touchdown drive. And
Speaker 1: then on first and ten at the twenty five, they
Speaker 1: tried to reverse Cobb passs no, but he is opened,
Speaker 1: and he did the smart thing. He basically threw it
Speaker 1: out of bound. And what they do on second and
Speaker 1: ten they gave it to Zeke plus three and then
Speaker 1: on third and seven touchdown past the Cobb. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it didn't just severely. Still, they scored touchdowns on those drives,
Speaker 1: so it's not every time they give it to Zeke
Speaker 1: and then they don't have success on the drives. But
Speaker 1: that was later in the game, so it was they
Speaker 1: were ready to play by then, right, Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what they were better prepared. That's right. You know you
Speaker 1: were if you reverse what happened if they scored at
Speaker 1: the end. Here we're talking about how resilient this football
Speaker 1: team is, and they gave up a lot of yards
Speaker 1: to the leading rusher in the league, but they still
Speaker 1: found a way to win and Dak Prescott and Mary
Speaker 1: Cooper were terrific, and Reynold Cobb broke out and all that.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of good that happened
Speaker 1: in this game. Obviously, it just wasn't enough, and well
Speaker 1: and you lose, I mean, you focus on what they
Speaker 1: didn't do right. And one of the biggest issues in
Speaker 1: the game was they had ball one time in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. Yeah, I mean the time of possession was
Speaker 1: through the roof for Minnesota in the third quarter they
Speaker 1: had they had the ball for twelve minutes and twenty
Speaker 1: one seconds. I think the Dalvin Cook touchdown drive. It
Speaker 1: was a thirteen play drive and they ran eleven times
Speaker 1: with Cook and Madison seven minute drive and just you know,
Speaker 1: just hammered them up front. You know, that was that
Speaker 1: was a terrific drive and that was kind of symptomatic
Speaker 1: of the entire game, or at least the second half,
Speaker 1: where they got the line of scrimmage controlled. And so
Speaker 1: it was a Minnesota long drive sixty six yards for
Speaker 1: a field goal to start the second half. Cowboys came
Speaker 1: back quickly, scored in just a two minute drive, scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown to take the lead, but then the Vikings
Speaker 1: were able to hammer it down the field, and I
Speaker 1: mean they were talking you want to talk about running
Speaker 1: the football? Yes, Cook for two, two passes. It was
Speaker 1: Madison for four, Cook for six, Cook for fourteen, Madison
Speaker 1: for well, Madison for three, Madison for sixteen, penalty Cook
Speaker 1: for one, Cook for four. They finally threw the ball
Speaker 1: on third and goal and then Cook on fourth and
Speaker 1: goal at the one scored the touchdown. I believe that's
Speaker 1: called persistence. Well, and he also took a pretty good
Speaker 1: chance there going for it on fourth right. And then
Speaker 1: when they were they were able to run the ball
Speaker 1: in this game, and then went for the two point conversion,
Speaker 1: which was so big because you get to the end
Speaker 1: of the game and maybe a long Mahr field goal
Speaker 1: ties it, or had Maher hit the fifty seven yard
Speaker 1: or they would have never gone for two mm could
Speaker 1: it would have should Yep, But that's how close these
Speaker 1: games are, That's right. I think DeMarcus Lawrence talked for
Speaker 1: a while and I think he was finally given up,
Speaker 1: and he finally looked at me and he goes, you
Speaker 1: know what goes, somebody's gonna win and somebody's got Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was a hell of a game. That's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you just wentn't a loss to the Jets. Now
Speaker 1: both on that one. All right? That does it for
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