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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Thursday. Former Jaguars Jeff Langerman and Tony

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Speaker 1: Bisselly bring you expert insight and analysis of your Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Now to get things started, here's the host of Jaguars Thursday,

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Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick from Jaguars Central at EverBank Field. Jaguars Thursday,

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Speaker 1: JAP Shadrick, Tony Bisselly, Jeff Langerman. Phase two of the

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Speaker 1: off season program underway, and it is our draft recap show.

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Speaker 1: We'll go through the draft picks. Well, face for me

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Speaker 1: is this is the doldrums frost. Nothing nothing like the

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Speaker 1: exciting Wait a minute, got rookie Minicamp coming up. That's

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Speaker 1: next Week's exciting. To my points, exciting the doldrums because

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Speaker 1: even for me, at least after the first day of

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Speaker 1: O T a S it's like, okay, yeah, no, I know,

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Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? Well right now, it's not

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Speaker 1: even team work. It's basically individual drills on the field

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Speaker 1: and and no elements and no path until camp. There's

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the interesting thing is, you know

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Speaker 1: we're reading kind of what the Jaguars and what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: You're there in Phase two and then there's other teams

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Speaker 1: that have new head coaches that have already you know,

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Speaker 1: had voluntary mini camps, and we're reading about certain players

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Speaker 1: that are not attending them, or you know, will they attend.

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Speaker 1: The mystery and the anticipation, and you know, so the league,

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Speaker 1: the league's coundars rolling along. It's it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: gone so fast, you know, because the Jaguars run the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and then bam, the draft is like here all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, You're like, wow, you lose a month

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Speaker 1: of what would have been the off season. It's nice,

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Speaker 1: you know. It's the thing is as on Jaguars dot com,

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Speaker 1: if you're watching us, you can see that some of

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Speaker 1: the video from them on the field doing individual stuff.

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Speaker 1: As a player, I guess the duldrums us, but I

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Speaker 1: remember as a player and now we started much earlier.

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Speaker 1: You started the uh really the third week of March

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Speaker 1: third end of the second third week of March, and

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Speaker 1: so that's when we started working out, and it was

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Speaker 1: But as a player, it's like all right, here we

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Speaker 1: this thing. And so as soon as we started working out,

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Speaker 1: And then you go to many camps, which we have

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Speaker 1: as a player. I mean, it's still not the intensity

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Speaker 1: the opposite there out there and working and getting better,

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Speaker 1: talking about? This is like critical time right now? This

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Speaker 1: Kim go further than we did last year. I wish

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Speaker 1: I wish Tom was here to kind of share in

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Speaker 1: this memory that I have and Tony will remember this

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Speaker 1: very well. When we had our voluntary day when you're

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Speaker 1: We had in our voluntary part of our voluntary day,

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Speaker 1: Remember on the six o'clock hour, you were here, okay,

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Speaker 1: And and it was a leg day. And on leg

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Speaker 1: and at this particular time, Coughlin was steamed because there

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget, and I'll never forget Steve's a But

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Speaker 1: who's the linebacker, Jef? It was because you had a harness.

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Speaker 1: early part of this Jaguars draft here. Before we get

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Speaker 1: to that, though, let's recap what happened in our mock

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Speaker 1: draft and who won again this year. The only correct

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Speaker 1: I made. What team was that? Joe Seattle Seahawks cornerback

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Speaker 1: Did you get the right slot? Yeah? Yeah, we didn't

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Speaker 1: Seattle trade down and get him. Well, no, I had,

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Speaker 1: I looked at it. They got him, I got it right.

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Speaker 1: But the only one you guys didn't get any of them.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Row Uh. Tavin Brian is a big reason

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Speaker 1: And what do you think of of Brian at number twenty.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that, talking to a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: he had, how much did that affect his ability to

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Speaker 1: make throws like that? And if he can get back

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Speaker 1: to making throws like that with with Keelan Cole and

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Speaker 1: now DJ charc I mean two guys that run, I

430
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Speaker 1: mean down the field like nobody's business. One deed underneath

431
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Speaker 1: which is his strength because I mean he's electric capture

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Speaker 1: the catch, and and Marquis because he's like ded I

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Speaker 1: mean underneath stuff that's gonna be fun to watch. Roddy

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Speaker 1: Harrison safety Alabama, you tell us he's your guy? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Did you did you make that pick? I did. I

436
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Speaker 1: phoned it in. I went in the draft room and told, hey,

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Speaker 1: Mr Khan, excuse me just a moment. Let me borrow

438
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Speaker 1: these guys. And I told tom what to do, So

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Speaker 1: give us a breakdown. More of us strong than a

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Speaker 1: free plays close to the line a lot. They used

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Speaker 1: him in the blitzing game a lot at Alabama when

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Speaker 1: he was in coverage. Some of his interceptions are like

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Speaker 1: tip drill, kind of right place, right time, but you

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Speaker 1: still have to be in the right place at the

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Speaker 1: right time. So, uh, high football, I Q guy, which

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Speaker 1: at Alabama if you're defensive back, Nick Saban doesn't put

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Speaker 1: dumb defensive back. What you said right there is from

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Speaker 1: watching the film on him Monday, is very true. When

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Speaker 1: you say football like you guy. Uh, you can really

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Speaker 1: tell that he anticipates, he's aware, he's a captain in

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Speaker 1: the backfield. I mean that that is his strength. So

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Speaker 1: that's a big part of his game has been in

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Speaker 1: the right place and having other guys in the right

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Speaker 1: place around him to coverage. Coverage is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an issue. I mean, you're not gonna put it

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Speaker 1: out on the receiver. But here's the thing. Barry Church

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Speaker 1: struvis with that too. Yeah, I mean, so it's not

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean a lot of strong safeties, you know,

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Speaker 1: struggle if you get him out in space one on

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Speaker 1: one and they get the match if they want on

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. I mean, that's why they're strong safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I like I like him as a player

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Speaker 1: in that spot. With this team, I probably would have

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Speaker 1: went tight end. There was one that was available from

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Speaker 1: Indiana and I think there was another one from from

466
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Speaker 1: Miami at that time that we're pretty decent grads on them.

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Speaker 1: Where did your guy who you loved and you would

468
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Speaker 1: not stop talking Philadelphia the whole time? Southa Coachagles got him? Man,

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Speaker 1: Joe's happy. Hey, I'm telling you play now. I will

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Speaker 1: say that of all the teams to go to if

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Speaker 1: you were a tight end, that's the team you want

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Speaker 1: to go to. Are those r p o s to

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Speaker 1: the tight end that they run in Philadelphia? Saw him

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Speaker 1: last year? That's what they did. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: tight ends is huge in that I want to come

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Speaker 1: here d well, Yeah, I mean why went Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: about the jewelry? I like it, But I can't do

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Speaker 1: that in Philly. I think they did. It's gonna end

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Speaker 1: in London next dominate. They have to come to London.

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Speaker 1: They don't want you don't come into Wimbley Stadium. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's our Wimbley Stadium. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't believe plural. I think I don't believe all. I

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Speaker 1: think it's stars were all big family with the Jaguar family.

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Speaker 1: There's still a process to get to that point. Jagar family.

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Speaker 1: Final thought here, Like it's like, you know, like your

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Speaker 1: parents have like a house speech out, you go visit

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Speaker 1: our place like you means I can't find a London's, Hey,

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Speaker 1: my stadium kind of go hang out any time, like

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Speaker 1: if a Conscience stars, Hey, Beyonce concert. But you're in right,

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Speaker 1: this is the Jaguar Stadium. I would like to come

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Speaker 1: in and see my stadium. Now doesn't work that way, Jeff, No, exactly. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back and get into the fourth through the

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Speaker 1: seventh round. Picks of the Jaguars, including will Rich shirts

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Speaker 1: the Jags, has every are you waiting so long? Offensive line?

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm that defensive. It's a double teas were

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Speaker 1: trying to keep people around. I'm offended. We have to

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Speaker 1: wait to the third segment. The offensive linemen have been

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Speaker 1: the first segment is so important to this broadcast. It's

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Speaker 1: good that we're gonna push it back. I mean to

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Speaker 1: read whoever that sponsor was. Pr I Production could be

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Speaker 1: everything you need to bring your next idea of life

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Radio. Anytime you kind of you kind of

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Speaker 1: get that break, and says it's good to get your

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Speaker 1: body a risk and uh, you know, just kind of

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Speaker 1: get away from the game. And you know, I kind

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Speaker 1: of give a family, um, a vacation a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but um out there while you know just what we do. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is our job, so you start to

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Speaker 1: miss it, um, and so you know, I think it's

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Speaker 1: always fun when you know what I'm saying, when you

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Speaker 1: first get back and just getting back with all the

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Speaker 1: guys and uh, you know, I'm just saying, seeing your

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Speaker 1: coaches again. Cam Robinson, the left tackle for the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: earlier today on the Grand New JP Shadick podcast Check

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Speaker 1: it out Jaguars dot Com and the iTunes. What you

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Speaker 1: so emarrassing? Pretty good fight? He says he gets bored

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00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: when he's not at the stadium's he's wired a little differently.

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Speaker 1: It's because I'm talking about you self promoting your stupid podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you don't want to listen to it. It's Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson's the left tackle. It's an offensive when I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to get no linement some love here, I'll just talk

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Speaker 1: to him one on one. I don't need to listen

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Speaker 1: to your dumb questions. Great, yeah, like how do you

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Speaker 1: come up with your questions for that? Or like what

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Speaker 1: was your conversation? Just conversation. Big off season for him.

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Speaker 1: You know he's gonna get a little bigger in the

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Speaker 1: weight room. He said that. Interesting to see what he's

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Speaker 1: been doing, you know. Yeah, so check it out or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't really care. I listened to it, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I did. You did not listen to that? I did too.

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Speaker 1: You were so he sat I write in that chair

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Speaker 1: right there. That's when it happened. Okay, you were forced

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Speaker 1: to listen to it. You're strapped down like the shoulder right.

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Speaker 1: I should joke. Got a little embarrassing though, the Alabama thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he usually does, you know, affection, But in all seriousness,

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Speaker 1: I give JP a hard time. He does a good

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Speaker 1: job with his podcast, A good listen, even though it's

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Speaker 1: embarrassing when it's Alabama. It's a good stuff because that's

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Speaker 1: on the website, right, it's on the website, on iTunes,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, Jaguar's Radio all that. Let's touch on

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Speaker 1: some of the corrected free agent make sure I check

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Speaker 1: in that one out. I'm sure you will. I will.

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Speaker 1: I love your stuff. You're telling me, I who are

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Speaker 1: you like? He's like, you're telling me, I don't listen

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Speaker 1: when you when you send me something, do I listen

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Speaker 1: to give you feedback? No? Really, what did you ask

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Speaker 1: for anything? I don't send you anything. You've never seen anything. Really,

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Speaker 1: you never said anything. You want me to get into

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Speaker 1: details about your play by play? Can we get back

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Speaker 1: to the undrafted? No? No, no, no, we get the details.

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Speaker 1: What was that? That wasn't one time? All the time?

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Speaker 1: All the times? Multiple? Hell out of here. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to the undrafted free agents that why are you read?

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Speaker 1: Not read at all? That's just the sunburns, sunburned the

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Speaker 1: tops down on the jeep right now? Uh, some some

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Speaker 1: highlights from the undrafted free agents. You know the Jags

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Speaker 1: have drawn from this pool over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Davis a guy, of course. I last year with

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Speaker 1: Keelan Cole. Just to name a couple of guys. There

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Speaker 1: are two players on the third team that have signed

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Speaker 1: that we're in Mike Mayops top one hundred prospects entering

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Speaker 1: the draft, including the Iowa State wide receiver Alan Wizard.

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Speaker 1: Why do you drop out? He's top one. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: that's that's Mayoks list. Its pretty good. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I used to look all time leading receiver. I think

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Speaker 1: at Iowa State. He's got incredible measure bulls when it

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Speaker 1: comes to highway you know, okay speed, you know, mid

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Speaker 1: four five. But I mean for a big guy, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty good. It's gonna be. We know why he dropped.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He's a team captain. He's got what

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Speaker 1: legacy there at Ohio State Oiowa State? Father played there

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Speaker 1: is Yeah, so I mean there's no issues there. It's

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Speaker 1: not like any personal issues dropped or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But he's you know, here, here's the deal. And I

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Speaker 1: was telling JP this and we're talking about this. If

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Speaker 1: you're a big wide receiver can play special teams, you've

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Speaker 1: got a chance to make it. And he's got the

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Speaker 1: size to be able to make an impact on special team.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy you were all excited about before we

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Speaker 1: went to break uh Jackson Darius Darius Jackson from Jacksonville State.

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Speaker 1: We're number forty at Jacksonville State. Now, Abam, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you Tony just got can play. Yeah, you can play, uh,

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Speaker 1: stand up outside linebacker rusher, super athletic, um dominate at

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Speaker 1: that level of play. Uh. I don't know what he

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Speaker 1: runs the forty time in, but he plays fast. I

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Speaker 1: kind of had and I'm not trying to say that

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Speaker 1: he is of this level, but you know, there's certain

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Speaker 1: traits like the way a guy runs you might remind

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Speaker 1: you of somebody. The way he ran and the way

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Speaker 1: he was moving on this one particular pass rush move.

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Speaker 1: I was telling JP and Justin, who does this remind

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Speaker 1: you of? And it reminded me of Derek Thomas the

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Speaker 1: way he kind of moved and had that you know,

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Speaker 1: the neck brace on and the kind of the side

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Speaker 1: to side a little shake that he had. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he's Derek Thomas, don't anybody, but I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see him. I think he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: guy that they probably play a linebacker just because he's

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Speaker 1: you know, six two to forty and then could maybe

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Speaker 1: big give you them, give them some edge rush ability?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was he the two time conference defensive

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Speaker 1: player of the year. There, I can play the side

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Speaker 1: note went to the same high school is both Jackson

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Speaker 1: mcindoy High School in Bessemer. So who's the other top

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Speaker 1: one player? The kid from Iowa stays Stanford corner Quintin Meeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he left early, son of Ron Meeks, defensive coach Colts.

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Speaker 1: You know, also went to high school here. But I

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Speaker 1: grew up here in Jacksonville. Uh, he declared when early. Uh.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, he made a mistake. I watched his

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Speaker 1: film The Free Agent Corner that they got from Vanderbilts

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Speaker 1: better than him. I don't see him as being a

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Speaker 1: top one hundred player. Let's go around the National Football

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Speaker 1: League quick hitters here with a couple of minutes to go,

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan five years, a hundred fifty million dollar deal,

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Speaker 1: thirty million a year, one hundred million guaranteed, and Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers might beat him next. Good to be a quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: I used to play quarterback. I should have played hundred million,

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Speaker 1: fully guaranteed for everything, no matter what kickoffs could have

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Speaker 1: a different field. This year. Proposal includes the following no

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Speaker 1: running starts or pre kicked motion by cover teams and

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Speaker 1: no wedge blocks by return teams. There's a fifteen yard

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Speaker 1: non contact zone from the spot of the kick. The

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Speaker 1: return teams required to have a minimum of eight players

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Speaker 1: lined up fifteen yards from the ball. The final draft

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Speaker 1: of that is coming up this week. Vote later. All

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Speaker 1: all they're trying to do is make kickoffs much like

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Speaker 1: punt punt, you know, where you don't have the high

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Speaker 1: speed collisions. And I'm all for it. Yeah, And it's

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Speaker 1: really not for the kick return or it's everybody else

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Speaker 1: on the field on kick returns. And also on another

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Speaker 1: note here that that way though, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you now, great football player turned the

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Speaker 1: I think, especially if he has a few drinks before

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Speaker 1: That's not that's not that's not professional anymore. It used

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Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not. I'm not throwing it out there.

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Speaker 1: He'll do it for our program tonight. Max Hackman on

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Speaker 1: have beer snack my board game, Jeff, I'm j P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: See you next week, Jaguars Thursday. I'm Jaguars Radio. Sober