1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: We are the NFL Fantasy Live crew here in Sirius 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: XM Fantasy Sports Radio. The number is nine six three 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: to six a tow. I'll help you set your lineups, 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: give you all the trade advice weekend over the next 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: couple of hours. Also breakdown all the big news fantasy 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: wise in the National Football League. And guys, somebody we've 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: been talking about. We talked about him earlier today in 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live and the NFL Network, also on NFL 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: dot Com. Something very tiny happened with Carson Palmer yesterday. 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it didn't get a lot of coverage, 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: but now we know he's a Raider. He's likely going 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: to start for the Raiders on Sunday. Michael Lombardi from 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: the NFL Network reporting that earlier today. So now we 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: know Carson Palmer's in, Jason Campbell is out, Carson Palmer 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: is going to start. Can you start Carson Palmer? This week? 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of byes, fabs, a lot of people 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: looking for quarterbacks. Those back end quarterbacks have not been 18 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: very good. Those guys not coming through the Grossman's Fitzpatricks 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: have not been playing well. We got buys you started 20 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: this week. I'm sure fantasy owners out there have issue 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: at quarterback. There's some real good ones on buys. There's 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: other guys who are suddenly losing their jobs, like Records 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: Grossman and Donovan McNabb and the like. Uh, Blaine Gabbert's 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: not a fantasy option for you at this point in 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: the year. There's a lot of quarterbacks out there that 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: just can't get it done from a fantasy perspective. He's 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: playing the Chiefs. They've allowed the seventh most fantasy points 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: to quarterbacks this year. I would not be shy about 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: starting Carson Palmer ahead of guys like I just mentioned, 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: ahead of guys who have not have really struggled during 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: the two thousand and eleven campaign. I know that he's 32 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: gonna have some rust, but based on the matchup, I 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: would roll the dice. I'll tell you what you know. 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Michael only talked for about what forty five seconds, and 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: his phone's already blowing up, Like he said, I didn't 36 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: realize he said so they so controversial Matt More owners 37 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: are very upset and have more owners. Boy, if you 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: saw that, about how many points did the Jets have 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: against Matt Moore to his quarterbacks struggling. You know, we 40 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: were in a picture of Carson Palmer on NFL dot com, 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, in his raiders gear. I don't know if 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: you've I saw that. He looked like Jason Garrett. Was 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: I the only one that noticed that a little bit. 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: It looks like you lost some weight. It looks like 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: he lost weight, you know, and he didn't have the 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: giant beard that he was sporting towards the end of 47 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: last season. But I agree with Fabs here. I mean, 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: we we have several quarterbacks that have been lost. Obviously, 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: Jason Campbell has a collarbone injury, likely done for the year, 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: and then uh, Donovan Nab sitting on the pine. You 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: just mentioned Matt Moore. Carson Palmer. I don't like him 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: this week. Whether he starts or whatever, whether he gets 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: in the second quarter, I think you have to give 54 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: him to after the bye Jason. I mean, listen, the guy. 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: It's not like he's been throwing the ball at NFL 56 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: white outs. I don't care how much military press he's 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: been doing. I don't care if he's got P ninety 58 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: x at home. The guy has not been throwing fifteen 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: yard outs to NFL wide receivers with corners that run 60 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: four force covering them. Yeah, and that's why I'm I 61 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of back off Carson Palmer this week too, because 62 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: you can say, while I'm working out and he's working 63 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: out in southern California throwing footballs, that's great, But he's 64 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: not been with a football team and almost a year, 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: and you saw what the lockout did a lot of 66 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: people who weren't ready for the season after a long 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: layoff there. Now you're adding another month and a half 68 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: for Carson Palmer, especially because I think there's guys available 69 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: that I like a little bit more. I love Matt 70 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Castle's matchup this week. Hopefully you picked up Tim Tebow. 71 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: He's got a great matchup this week. I like Colton 72 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: McCoy this week. There's a lot of guys out there. 73 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Carson Palmer is not going to be 74 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: a guy, but boy to think he's gonna come in 75 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: and throw that he's gonna be on adrenaline. Let me 76 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: throw some names out there. Or no Carson Palmer or 77 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: either one of the Seahawks quarterbacks. Uh, you know what? 78 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: You know what this week I like, which I think 79 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a ton of points in that game. 80 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: I like whoever starts with the Carson Palmer or Matt Moore, Carson, 81 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, Curtis Painter, Carson Palmer, Carson Palmer or Blaine 82 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: Gabbert Carson Palmer. That's Carson Palmer, Carson Palmer or Sam Bradford. 83 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I'm gonna go Sam Bradford 84 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, I would. I would roll the 85 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: dice with a guy with a busted up ankle against 86 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: an aggressive Cowboys defense. There isn't there isn't. Thank you. 87 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: Well if he plays, I still liked, uh, Kevin Cobb 88 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: or Carson Palmer. That's tough that. I you know what 89 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: I know. I know you're down on Combe. I'm down 90 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: on Cob, but I think I'd go with Cobb just 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: because he's been the offense. He went to training camp. 92 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna turn it around against the Steelers. He's not 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: not against the Steelers, all right. I think they could 94 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: McCoy or Carson Palmer. Well this week I'll go call 95 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: I like Jay Cutler or Carson Palmer. I think that's 96 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: even Stephen. So we just talked about a handful of 97 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you just started Carson Palmer over Well, I 98 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: only gave you only if you have like Matt Moore, 99 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: or if you have one of the Redskins quarterbacks, if 100 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: you have a real bottom feeder, Yeah, go out, Mark 101 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: Sanchez or Carson Palmer. This week, well, I think against 102 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: the Chargers, who have allowed very few fantasy points to quarterbacks, 103 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: I go Carson Palmer. I'll go Sanchez. And of course 104 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: you're a Jets fan. Nineteen fantasy points last week and 105 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't even that great. Today FABS makes a good 106 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: point of the Dolphins. I think I'd still go Sanchez, 107 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: only because Carson has been on a couch. Man. I'm 108 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: talking about this week now long term I sit on 109 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live today that if we're going long term 110 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year and I've got Sanchez 111 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 1: on my team, I would drop Sanchez. Do you remember 112 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: a few years ago when Vinny Testaverdi came off of 113 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: his couch and hadn't played football in like a year 114 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: and a half and started I believe it was for 115 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers and had a good game. Yes, but 116 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: no reason why Carson Palmer take the same thing. Three 117 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: he was who cares what Carson Palmer is not wiser Carson. 118 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: Look Carson Palmer. I think his best fantasy names are 119 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: hid him regardless. No, I agree with you to whether 120 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: or not he can do it this week. This is 121 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: a guy who was last was great like four or 122 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: five years ago. Last year he was middle of the 123 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: pack in the NFL. He had better receivers. All I'm saying, guys, 124 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: is that there are quarterbacks out there that people are using. 125 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: That Carson Palmer is a better option. Then that's all 126 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not saying start him over Roethlisberger or 127 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: Romo or even Matt Ryan who has been a disappointment, 128 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: or Freeman or Shop or any of those guys. But 129 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: there's quarterback Listen. I'm in a league where I drafted 130 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and at the time I thought I was 131 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: brilliant because I got him in the fifth round, and 132 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: that completely blew up in my face. My quarterbacks are 133 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: basically switching in and out every single week based on matchups. 134 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: I may have to start Carson Barmber this week, and 135 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: I'll do it. Let me just throw this out to you, guys. 136 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Obviously this is can't happen but Jason Campbell or Carson Palmer, 137 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: because Campbell has not been a disappointment this year fantasy wise. 138 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: But that's that that's not that's not stoop the reality right. Well, 139 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: the point that I'm making is that look at the 140 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: options that he has to throw to the same guys 141 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: that Campbell does. I think FABS is right. I think 142 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: Palmer is better than some of the options that are 143 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: out there. But at the end of the day, his 144 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: best receiver so far has been Darius Syward Bay. Darius 145 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: Heyward Bay is a great plan of bye week, Okay, 146 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: But is Darius Heyward Bay a legit top ten fantasy 147 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: receiver this season? I don't think he's not legit top ten, 148 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: but is he? Is he a legit start? Yeah? I 149 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: mean I would love to have I would be very 150 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: happy if I had Darius Heyward Bay is my flex. 151 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: I'd be every shade and happy if he was numbered, 152 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: if he was my number two. But I'd be very 153 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: happy right now if he was my flex every week. Yeah, 154 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. About that pencil and d HB. As 155 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: you're starting flex from here until a week, you know, 156 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: I'd be playing the matchups. But I wouldn't be afraid 157 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: to start him. Always play the match up I think, 158 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: you know, matchup based started, Yes, But what I is 159 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: he a pencil and every week guy, I don't think so. 160 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: And we're talking about the best receiver on the Raiders. 161 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 1: We're not even getting, you know, deeper into their team. 162 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: So part of my issue is Palmer is a start. 163 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: Is not Palmer himself, it's the weapons he has there. 164 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, the best weapon the 165 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: Raiders have is number twenty in the backfield. It's NFL 166 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: Fantasy Live on Sirius two ten x M eight seven 167 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Jason Smith, Elliott Harrison, Michael Fabiano from the NFL Network 168 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: and NFL dot Com. Number is eight x M Fantasy 169 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: going through all the big news of the day, and 170 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: we had the breaking news earlier today, guys, and I 171 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: guess I was just very happy that we actually got 172 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: the breaking news. Last week, we found out on Sunday 173 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: morning that Tim hid Tower was going to start for 174 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. Ryan Touraine wind up starting, Mike Shanahan, 175 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Today we find out On Beck 176 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: is going to be the quarterback in Washington. I don't 177 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: think this means we're gonna get a big switch. Ru 178 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: went back to Rex gross Went on Sunday. But here 179 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: we have now a new quarterback in Washington, Santana Moss, 180 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: to rain the running games there. How does this move 181 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: affect the weapons right now in Washington because obviously you're 182 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: not picking up John Beck and starting it. But has 183 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: affect everybody else? Listen. I had said earlier in the 184 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: season to play Rex Grossman if you need a quarterback 185 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: based on the matchups. Uh, And that worked out pretty 186 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: well for a few weeks. And then Rex turned into 187 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Rex Grossman. Uh. Remember he was. He reverted back to 188 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: the lousy, turnover prone quarterback that we all knew and 189 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: loved or hated, depending on if you started him on 190 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: your fantasy team. I don't think it affects Santana Moss 191 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: because I just don't like Santana Moss. He was a 192 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: bust on my preseason bust list on NFL dot Com. 193 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: He's all there nothing. Uh. The matchup this week is 194 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: not good. Carolina is tough against wide receivers Ryan Terrain. 195 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: I still play him. I still play in this week. 196 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I think Beck being in there is good news for 197 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: Fred Davis he's not gonna go deep. He's going to 198 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: be looking for those short and intermediate passes in the 199 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: middle of the field. And with Chris Coolie out, I 200 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: think fred Davis's values on the rise. But the Redskins 201 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: are not a huge play in fantasy these days anyways. 202 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of big stars there. Yeah, I 203 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: like fred Davis and and that that's the one guy 204 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: I like the most simply because I think it doesn't 205 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback is. Because he he did well 206 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: with Rex Grossman. He stayed during the bye week to 207 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: get treatment work out with Rex Grossman. Rex gets benched, 208 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: he still winds up with the nearly hundred yard day. 209 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: I think the arrows going up for fred Davis, regardless, 210 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: he's the guy actually like the most on the team. 211 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Right now, you guys just made so many points about 212 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: the Redskins. All I can say at this point they 213 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: were burgundy and gold. But yeah, to the point of 214 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: fred Davis that may wind up being the best point. 215 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: Comes Sunday, Well, when't you know something to add their 216 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: Chris Coolie injury problems. So fred Davis is the guy. 217 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: I do agree that Beck's going to be checking the 218 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: ball down and one thing to go back to Heyward Bay. 219 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Fred Davis has almost as many fantasy points as Darius 220 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: Heyward Bay does. Just a thought. So when you talk 221 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: about a clear reflex star of the rest of the year, 222 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: if I said, hey, would you put Fred Davis in 223 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: your flex for the rest of the year, You'd be like, 224 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: no Way. But they're not that far apart. I'll tell 225 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: you fred Davis is. I don't know why people dropped 226 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: him because he was great the first couple of weeks, 227 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: and then he had a couple of down weeks and 228 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: suddenly he was available in over fifty percent. People cut 229 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: bait on tight ends like that, and now it's like, well, 230 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the He's one of the most picked 231 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: up guys on the list. Let's get to Christian Ponder. 232 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: The other news the last twenty four hours, Christian Ponder 233 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: takes over as a starting quarterback in Minnesota for Donovan McNabb. 234 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that this means a lot for anybody 235 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, simply because Percy Harvin has been disappointing and 236 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is finding it tough sledding. Uh, it can't 237 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: be any worse because McNabb has been awful. I mean, look, 238 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: he's at the end of the road as far as 239 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: being a quarterback in the NFL goes. Ponder is gonna 240 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: be able to get out of the pocket and make 241 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: plays with his legs. But I don't know, Elliot, do 242 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: you think this affects you know, this good bad news 243 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: for anybody else on Minnesota? Oh boy, that's that is 244 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: a tough one. Does it affect Shanko? I you know 245 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a really tough one. But let me 246 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: say this about Pondered. So easy to poopoo a rookie 247 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: quarterback and say, oh, he's not gonna do anything. He's 248 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: facing Dom Caper's defense. You know a couple of positives. 249 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: The guy can make plays with his legs. We saw 250 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: that against Chicago the other night. Chances are they're gonna 251 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: be down three to the Packers, which means what they're 252 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: gonna have to throw the ball if it's not there, 253 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: If he doesn't know his reads, what's he gonna do. 254 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna tuck the ball and run, which, oh, by 255 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: the way, gets you fantasy points. I know, no one 256 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: is gonna start Ponder unless they're absolutely freaking desperate. But 257 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to be so quick to just completely 258 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: pooh poo the guy as a fantasy quarterback. I don't 259 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: think anyone expected any Dalton to do as well as 260 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: he has. Certainly no one thought Cam Newton was gonna 261 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: do well when we talked about Cam Newton facing the 262 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: Packers in Week two. He actually had an incredible fantasy day. 263 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: So I I guess I'm taking the positives out on 264 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: ponder because it's so easy to deep six the kid. 265 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: I wanna I'll say the same thing. Rookie quarterbacks have 266 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: played well this year. Uh. The rules have certainly affected, 267 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: uh the quality of play and the quality of the 268 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: statistics from quarterbacks. But namely, the last Florida State quarterback 269 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: that was any good in the fl Charlie Ward, wasn't 270 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: that good. He's a point guard for the New York 271 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: And you know a lot of people, you know, think 272 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: that this sort of a stereotypical point of view. I 273 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: look at where, especially at quarterbacks, where these guys went 274 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: to school. Uh. I knew David Card was a horrible 275 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: pick because of where he went to school. Uh numbers 276 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: were inflated. David Klingler, same thing, Andre Ware, same thing, 277 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Achille Smith, same thing, and any Notre Dame quarterbacks that 278 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: come out, I wouldn't touch him if I was a 279 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: GM with a ten foot poll and Jimmy Clausen proved 280 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: that last year. He's not any good. Christian Pinder went 281 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: to a school that does not produce good quarterbacks in 282 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: the NFL level. And while I don't think this is 283 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: a bad move for Percy Harvard Adrian Peterson because McNab 284 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: was clearly just terrible, maybe it's even a little bit 285 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: of an upgrade to those guys, because maybe Ponder will 286 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: be able to do some more things running around the 287 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: pocket behind the questionable offensive line. Christian Ponder is not 288 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: somebody that I'm seeing making any sort of Tim Tebow, uh, 289 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: Cam Newton or even Andy Dalton impact. Well, I'm just 290 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: curious now that you named all these guys, did you 291 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: think Browning Nagle was gonna be It was gonna be 292 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: a bus coming opening game against Atlanta and then he 293 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: just fell off Like it's it's weird that GM's in 294 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: the in the National Football League. Don't pick up on 295 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: this because if if somebody like me, who I couldn't 296 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: be a jam In the NFL, you know, save my life, 297 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: no chance about it. Fantasy football is about as far 298 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: as I'm going, right. But these quarterbacks that come from 299 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: schools that just aired out constantly and spread it around, 300 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: and they all all they do is throw it, It 301 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: just seems and Florida State guys, Notre Dame guys. Um, 302 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: it's just odd to me that, especially the Vikings, would 303 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: go that high on a guy from a school that 304 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: again does not produce good NFL quarterbacks. Well, let me 305 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: let me go to the point, let me go step 306 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: further on this too. Was as far as Christian Ponder goes, yeah, 307 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: I didn't like him, as I thought it was a reach. 308 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: I thought what happened in the draft was the Vikings 309 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: saw the run on quarterback starting and said, well, we 310 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: gotta get our guy, so they panicked and took Christian Ponder. 311 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: But you can succeed as a rookie in the NFL 312 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: and fantasy Where do I us? If you are put 313 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: in a position to succeed? Look at Cam Newton. Was 314 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: Cam Newton on a really bad team or was he 315 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: on a team that just had a really bad year. 316 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: He was on a team that had a really bad year. 317 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: Because it was just two years ago. They had a 318 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: great running attack, Their offensive line was pretty good. You 319 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: had a top ten wide receiver and Steve Smith. So yeah, 320 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: you can put Cam Newton in there. It's not like 321 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna put him behind an offensive line it's gonna 322 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: get him killed. Newton can evade sacks, keep plays alive, run, 323 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: and he's a gold line guy. Boom. That's fine. Same 324 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: thing with Andy Dalton. You throw Andy Dalton in there. 325 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: The offensive line is okay, you got a running back 326 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: you can depend on in Cedric Benson, you drafted aj Green. 327 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: Your defense is lights out, and you can tell early 328 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: on this defense is gonna help us make plays and 329 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: and and and keep our guys on the field. So 330 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: you go Andy Dalton. But now you got Christian Ponder. 331 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: You're throwing him in He's gonna be running for his life. 332 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not in a position to succeed. He's 333 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: got no playmakers. Maybe a little bit of street ball 334 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: and he's able to to make some plays and get 335 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: out of the pod and throw a couple of deep 336 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: passes to Percy Harvard, but he's not in a position 337 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: to succeed. And that's why I don't like him saying, Okay, yeah, 338 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: put Ponder in there. Maybe he can make plays and 339 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: run and be the next great rookie quarterback. Let me 340 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: let me just ask you. I s this If I said, 341 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Christian Ponder this week throws for a hundred eighty yards, 342 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: a touchdown and no interceptions. Is that a stretch and 343 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a great week for him? Okay? I hundred? 344 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: That's agree that fabs. Is that realistic that he's very 345 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: careful with the ball, throws for a hundred and eighty yards, 346 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: not much in a touchdown? Okay, sure, absolutely not much. 347 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: So we're talking that's like seven point two points plus 348 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: a touchdowns eleven point two using NFL dot com scoring. 349 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: What if he scrambles for fifty five yards on top 350 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: of that, Now, all of a sudden, you have a 351 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: guy that just got you sixteen points plus. Well you're 352 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: not you're not looking at the three interceptions, just gonna 353 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, that's a perfect world for him, That's a 354 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: perfect Dalton was going to do that too, and Andy 355 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Dalton was pretty careful with the football. You know, he 356 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: didn't put up the big numbers the first couple of weeks, 357 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: but he didn't throw any interceptions. I don't think in 358 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: either of his first two starts, right, he but he 359 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: did become a real viable fantasy quarterback until about three 360 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: or four weeks, and now he is. He's had a 361 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: bunch of weeks. Look, I played him last week. He 362 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: got me nineteen points, Like nineteen is the magic number 363 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: for Andy Dalton. But I just think, ponder, I'd like 364 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: to see it. Look, I'm not rooting against the kid. 365 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him do it. I just think 366 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: in reality, he's gonna throw picks. He's gonna be overwhelmed 367 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: when he comes in and sees and sees NFL defenses, 368 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: how they how they played fast for the first time. 369 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: When we talk about not coming off the bench going 370 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: and cold, when you have time to prepare and they 371 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: have had time to prepare for you. I'd love to 372 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: see it. I just don't see it. Well, let's stay 373 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: in the division. That Ronnie Brown trade obviously wasn't near 374 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: as big as the Brandon Lloyd deal, certainly not as 375 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: big as Carson Palmer. What effect do you think it 376 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: has on the Lions and fantasy owners. I think this 377 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: week Morris Morris is the guy to get off the 378 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: waiver wire if you need to replace job at Best 379 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: because I don't think he's gonna play um with the 380 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: concussion issues. The problem is that won't play job Best. 381 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: Who did I say, I don't know. Maybe you did 382 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: say he said Billy Sims wouldn't play space. Um. So 383 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: the thing is that maybe Ronnie Brown comes in and 384 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: sees the goal line work. Is it a committee of 385 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: two guys that are backups? And that causes a lot 386 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: of confusion from a fantasy respective Morris knows the offense, 387 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: Brown doesn't. Maybe down the road, Ronnie Brown is the 388 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: better handcuff, which I think will probably happen. But this week, 389 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: Maurice Morris, I think is a better flex play. But again, uh, 390 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: I think they're going to throw the ball a lot. 391 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: I think the Lions will chuck it all over the 392 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: place against Atlanta. Yeah, I like Brown as a handcuff 393 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: if you have job at Best Because obviously the Lions 394 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: are worried about his health. How many times can we 395 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: give him the football until he may break down or 396 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: get hurt? And I think they've they've seen that a 397 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: big scare with a concussion, Like let's bring a guy 398 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: and we can give the goal line carriage to the 399 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: short guardage carries too. I like Brown going forward. I 400 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: get him as a handcuff. I don't know if i'd 401 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: play Hi unless you have injury problems, but yeah, if 402 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: you have a room on your bench, I go get him. 403 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: You know, you guys have to listen to me spin 404 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: Yarn about this on Fantasy Live on NFL Network. So 405 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: I apologize, but don't you think at some point the 406 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: Lions have got to be cognizant of not putting everything 407 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: on Stafford given his injury history. And as if I 408 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't have Stafford, and you know, either one of 409 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: my leagues, but I would worry about that if I 410 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: was an owner, that my quarterback who's getting me all 411 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: these points is gonna get hurt. I think this is 412 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Stafford's year three in the NFL, and I think this 413 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: is time to say, if you're ever gonna put it 414 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: on his shoulders, it's time to do it now. Look, 415 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, your Seaton has done regardless. We 416 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: saw what happen when you got hurt the last couple 417 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: of years. Yeah, you gotta you gotta find out you Look, 418 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: you're our guy. You're a franchise guy. We started out 419 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: five and oh we had a bit of a lefdown 420 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: last week, played a pretty good defense coming off a 421 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: big emotional Monday Night win. I'm fine with putting everything 422 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: on Stafford Scholes. I'm fine if I'm a fantasy owner 423 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: and I got Stafford and I say, okay, you know what, 424 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: I want to trade my really good backup for somebody else, 425 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: I'll go do it because I'll ride with Matthew Stafford 426 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: and how it goes, it goes. Which, by the way, 427 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: Stafford did not have a bad game against the forty Niners. No, 428 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: it's a few a couple of couple of yards short 429 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: of three hundred, you know, but it was just, you know, 430 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: it's a come down week because of what happened on 431 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: Monday Night. It's NFL Fantasy Live Series to ten xm 432 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: AD seven Jason Smith, nfl dot com Senior Fantasy Editor, 433 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Michael Fabiano, NFL dot COM's Elliott Harrison eight at eight 434 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: nine six three to six eight two is the number 435 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: that is eight. A eight x M fantasy coming up 436 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: will help you set your lineups and also we'll get 437 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: into all the big injury issues right now in the 438 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: national Football League, and yes, we will get to Tim Tebow. 439 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live on series two ten x seven from 440 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: the NFL Network and NFL dot Com. Jason Smith alongside 441 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: Michael Fabiano, Elliot Harris, and our show NFL Fantasy Live 442 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: every day two pm Eastern Time and again at midnight 443 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: on the NFL Network where rocking and rolling and we're 444 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: talking different kind of fantasy. They're photos of Lindsay Lohan 445 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: in handcuffs on TMZ. Yeah, you're supposed to be looking 446 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: up fantasy stuff and you're looking at photos handcuffs. Is 447 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: that doc and weirdest? Yes, George Lynch is one of 448 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: the most underrated guitars or quarter or quarterback quarterbacks. I'm 449 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: I'm powerful Ward. Why didn't you bring him up with 450 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: the Carson Palmer discussion? Look, do you want to start 451 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: George Lenz or Carson I'm going George Lynch. I think 452 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: George Lynch is more overrated than Carson. Paul, You're crazy. 453 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Not a docking guy. I've never been a guitar in here. 454 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: I always look at my guitar when I'm playing, and 455 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: then you look at me. And that's very weird because 456 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: when the guys when in those videos. My oldest brother 457 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: has a name for when the guys would look at 458 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: their guitars like that and smile, is like they couldn't 459 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: believe their own awesomeness. You know they're playing well. I 460 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: think Tim Tebow falls into that category. Yeah, I have 461 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: I have tebow fever. I have low hand fever, but 462 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: I have tebow fever. Also, you know, he's a guy 463 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: this week. Everybody had to pick him up last week 464 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: because going to the boy, he sees that kind of 465 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: fantasy monster. I got him like his my number four 466 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: or five quarterback this week. And you look with the 467 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: boys going obviously had a couple of huge guys on 468 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: a bike, but there's not many guys I would play 469 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: over Tebow this I have him as my six. And 470 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: let's look at the numbers, because that's what fantasy football 471 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: is all about, is the numbers. Three starts last year, 472 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: lad all players and fantasy points during that time averaged 473 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: over twenty fantasy points a game, average about eleven fantasy 474 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: points a game per half this year, played one half 475 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: less than one half against the Chargers, scores almost sixteen 476 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: fantasy points and out scores Tom Brady, Darren mcfann and 477 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: Roddy White, who had played the entire game. Tim Tebow 478 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: is potentially your fantasy savior. I'm in a league where 479 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: you have to put up waiver wire bids. I've been 480 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: fifty two dollars on them because my quarterback situation is 481 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: a little shaky. I really believe in this guy. And 482 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, who just they stink. I mean, their 483 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: defense is horrible. Uh, Tebow is gonna be fired up 484 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: to play in Florida, where he went to college, where 485 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: he found so much success. Maybe the Broncos lose the game. 486 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. They probably win against the Dolphins, but 487 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: Tebow is gonna put up some points. Look, I'm thinking 488 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow for this this week. Two yards passing fifty 489 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: yards rushing, and this is conservative. Two under yards passing 490 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: fifty yards rushing, a touchdown throwing the football, touchdown one 491 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: of the football. That's over a twenty point week even 492 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: if being conservative for Tebow. But see you missed something 493 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: right there. What about the extra two point five points 494 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: you get when he does the unnecessary three sixty spin 495 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: move on the past like that, and it makes him 496 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: even more appealing by the way, call us a shameless plug, 497 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: but it's a shameless plug for you guys. You guys 498 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: never tell our listeners how they can find your rankings 499 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Fantasy. Well, hey, that's it. There 500 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: you go, And in fact we'll get to Michael Fabiano 501 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: starts and sits coming up in a bit, still rated 502 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: number one, the number one start six percentage across the 503 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: nation for all fantasy experts. Gave us some great starts 504 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: and said stuff last week. We'll get to that coming 505 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: up in the show as well. Give me point total 506 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: right now, Tim Tebow, right now before we get to 507 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Tim high tower Tebow right now, point total this week, 508 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: twenty three fantasy points before we get to another Tim 509 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: that we talk way too much about Tim Tebow. Do 510 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: you say twenty three. I'm gonna have to go a 511 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: little lower than that. I think high teens. I'll go 512 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: a little high. I'll go that's a big game. But 513 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's the Dolphins, and the Dolphins are horrible. 514 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: Think Cam Newton. He doesn't have the big arm like 515 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Cam Newton does, but he certainly has a screambling ability. 516 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: He's gonna get all those goal line carras and that 517 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: other Tim that e h had mentioned was Tim high Tower, 518 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: who returned to a full practice on Wednesday, and it 519 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: looks like the Redskins backfield situation just getting continue to 520 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: frustrate fantasy owners. Mike Shanahan said earlier in the week 521 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: that high Tower won't play until his show older is 522 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: back to well. If he's back at practice, maybe that 523 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: shoulder is getting healthier, which means that against the Panthers, 524 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: who have a lot more fantasy points of running backs 525 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: than any team in the National Football League, we as 526 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: fantasy owners are hung out to dry. Do you start 527 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Terrain? Do you start Tim high Tower? Does Roy 528 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: hallou have any sort of value? I can I can 529 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: stay with confidence that Mike Shanahan is the most hated 530 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: coach in fantasy football. You know, I'm gonna channel my 531 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: interer Adam Rank here since he replaced me on the 532 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: show last week. Thanks for welcoming me back. By the way, 533 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Jason Helliott, I've seen you every day since then. I've 534 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: seen you every day since next wednesdayce next Wednesday. But 535 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: Adam Rank calls him Shannahannigans and what else can you say? 536 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: It's the the perfect comment for him. But we've got 537 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: Chris in New Hampshire, who's been sitting waiting very patiently, 538 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: Chris Young Lina here, you got a pretty good trade question. 539 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Yes I do, I do, Thank you, gentlemen. I'll start 540 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: off by saying, I think I may be addicted to 541 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: trade and so uh, I want to make sure I 542 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: don't do something that is unnecessary. UH. I have started 543 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: line up Stafford uh running back from pretty solid Adrian Peterson, 544 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: m J D and Flex. I have Menden Hall uh 545 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: tight end, I got Graham and then at the wide 546 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: receivers UM, I have pang Atron. So I'm set there. 547 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: I have to start three. I have Jordy Nelson and 548 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: Mike Williams Tampa Bay. Uh. Just I mean the disappointment 549 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: with Mike Williams. Uh, it's just terrible at this point. 550 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm sick of him. I want him off my team 551 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: or at least on the bench. I have Stafford and 552 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: big Ben. I start one quarterback. I'm thinking there's a 553 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: guy out there right now that UM has four solid 554 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: wide receivers. I'd feel a j Green, Brandon Lloyd, Mike 555 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: Wallace and UM there's the fourth fourth one there started 556 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm losing my trade about there. But Uh, he's kind 557 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: of week at quarterback. So I was thinking of trade 558 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: and Stafford right now because my my waiver Wire also 559 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: has some secondary quarterbacks I can go out there and 560 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: get if I needed, h uh, the plug and play 561 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: with Big Ben and someone else at the third. Fourth 562 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: receiver is Anklan Bolden. Sorry, um, so I was thinking 563 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: of trying to trade Stafford over to him. Maybe package 564 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: Mike Williams and Stafford for um someone like a Wallace 565 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: and maybe a t Bow. He does have Tebow, but 566 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: he's kind of nervous with him. I'm just kind of 567 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: trying to think what your thoughts were. I would do 568 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: that if if you could get Mike Wallace and Tebow 569 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: in exchange for Roethlisberger and Williams. First off, you'd have 570 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: to wear one of those black things about trading Stafford Stafford. Okay, Um, 571 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: that I don't do. I mean as much to get 572 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Tebow back and Mike Wallace. But you're gonna play Calvin 573 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: Johnson and Jordy Nelson. How many wide receivers do you start? 574 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: Three or two? I played three, so I had Calvin 575 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: Johnson Shorty Nelson. So Mike Williams has been your starter 576 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: Mike Williams has been my starter. You know what, First 577 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: I offer Roethlisberger, Uh, and Elliott you know my whole thing. 578 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: If you ain't trade and you ain't trying. But I 579 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: would try Roethlisberger first. Always low ball your your your 580 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: trade partner first, and then let them be mad and say, 581 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is a terrible offer, and then 582 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: come back with something stronger. So I would offer big 583 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: Ben and Williams for Wallace. I doubt the owner will 584 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: take that. I wouldn't even package Williams. I mean Stafford 585 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: for a while. It's straight up is pretty good. But 586 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: if you can get Tebow back. But let me tell 587 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: you something, Chris. When Fab says he would low ball first, 588 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: trust me, he means it. But as far I just 589 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: I just want to throw one thing out on Roethlisberger. 590 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: He plays a very The Steelers in general play a 591 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: very favorable schedule. Uh. They play the NFC West this year, 592 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: as does all the all the teams the NFC North. 593 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: His next couple of weeks, He's got Arizona Cardinals, then 594 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: New England. New England has had a lot of trouble 595 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: stopping opposing passing games. Uh. You know, Roethlisberger would not 596 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: necessarily be a bad guy. Obviously, if you're getting Tebow, 597 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: you probably start Tebow most of the time. But I'm saying, 598 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: if you have to start Roethlisberger considering their schedule, it's 599 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: not a bad player. And if it's a one for 600 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: one and you do trade Stafford, do not take anything 601 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: less than Mike Wallace. Yeah, I totally agree. And at 602 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: XM Fantasy and at eight nine six, three to six 603 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: A two, it's NFL Fantasy Live on series two tim 604 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: x M eight E seven Jason Smith alongside Elliot Harris 605 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: and Michael Fabiano from the NFL Network and NFL dot Com. 606 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: We'll keep helping you set your starting lineups right now 607 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: again eight eight nine six, three to six say two 608 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: trade advice, and straight ahead we'll get to some starts 609 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: and sits for week seven in the NFL. Will take 610 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: a look at some quarterbacks with our top ranked Michael Fabiano. 611 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: That's coming up next serious XM Fantasy Sports Radio. You know, 612 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: guys starting to buy it. It's boy, it's really it's 613 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: it's really not as many as liked as you would 614 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: like that Bradford has not been good this year. Curtis Painter, 615 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: not a lot of faith in name Sanchez, inconsistent, Cobb 616 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: has been terrible his last two games. Devirus Jackson or 617 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Whitehurst, Matt Moore. I mean, and you've got Eli 618 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: off this week, You've got Tom Brady off this week. 619 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: You've got some really good quarterbacks that won't be available 620 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: to you. So again, I think Josh Freeman is a 621 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: good start. Give me, give me a point total. If 622 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: you're starting one of if you're going out, you're starting 623 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: a guy off your bench, you're starting a guy off 624 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: the waiver wire. Give me a point total that you 625 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: can expect to say, Okay, this is a good week 626 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: from my backup quarterback. I think playing this, I think 627 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: if you can get fifteen points from your quarterback, that's 628 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: a good week. If you're getting standard four points for 629 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: a passing touchdown, I think that's very good. I would 630 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: never sneeze at somebody who scores fifteen Fantasy points at 631 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, especially if it's a guy like a Freeman, 632 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: or if it's a guy like a Cutler or a 633 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan who haven't been real consistent this season. Fifteen 634 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: points to me without your number one quarterback in there, 635 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: whether it's because of injury or by I take that 636 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: all day long. Yeah. I think if you're over two 637 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: hundred and two touchdowns, anything else is gravy. Now you 638 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: gotta realize you're gonna get a couple of picks in there. Whatever. 639 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: But I think if you over two hundred and two touchdowns, Elliott, 640 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: I think, Okay, don't get you. You You can't say, oh boy, 641 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: this guy to do it. That's pretty good. I agree. 642 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that you use fifteen as you're 643 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: line of demarcation there because Matt money Smith, who's obviously 644 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: on NFL Fantasy Live with Us on NFL Network. Uh, 645 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: and I did our projections for j Cutler and Josh Freeman, 646 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: and we had Cutler coming in at fourteen point nine, 647 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: the two of us. We had Freeman coming in at 648 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: ten point nine. So we have Freeman much lower than 649 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: you guys do and Cutler were right at that cup. 650 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: But it sounds like you guys both like Freeman over Cutler. 651 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah this week. Yeah, but it's close though, I mean 652 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: it's close. I mean I'm not I'm not I'm not 653 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: upset if I'm saying, okay, color I think it's close. 654 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: Freeman's coming off the bigger week. Obviously, we think they're 655 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: gonna throw the football a little bit more. But you 656 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: know what, they get the ball to Earnest Graham a 657 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: lot last week. I don't know, I don't know I 658 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: can do it to them again. What's funny is that, 659 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: especially with are Johnson out, you've got you've got a 660 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: pocket of quarterbacks about five guys Freeman, shop Flacco, Ryan 661 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: Cutler that you can get a great game one week 662 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: and just an absolute stinker the next week. Uh, those 663 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: guys have not been seriously consistent this season. So you 664 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: play the matchups and you roll the dice, and and 665 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: that's what you're left with, especially during the bi weeks 666 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: and XM Fantasy eight eight eight, nine, six three to 667 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: six eight two. And then we get through to us 668 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: Jason Smith, Michael Fabiano, and Elliot Harrison from the NFL 669 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: Network and NFL dot Com Ball in New Jersey. You're 670 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: an NFL Fantasy Live. What do you got time Team 671 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: nine PPR League. My starting running backs are gonna be 672 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: Graham and Peterson. I need two wide receivers and a 673 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: flex from the following four choices. I got Nate Washington, 674 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: Percy Harvin, Eric Decker, and mark Ingram. You need three 675 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: of those four. Leave out I leave out Nate Washington. Man. 676 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: I just don't like Nate Washington. Ever since Kenny. I know, 677 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Elliott's already laughing because he does like Nate Washington. But 678 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: ever since Britt's gone down, Nate Washington's production has gone 679 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: down because he's drawn the number one corner from the 680 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: opposing team. And if you look at Nate Washington production 681 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: while he's been with the Tennessee Titans and the number one, 682 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: he's not very good. It's not very good. I mean, 683 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: Justin Gage was actually a better fantasy actor than him. 684 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: Uh for a I'm there with the Tennessee Titans. I 685 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: like the matchup with mark Ingram against the Colts. I 686 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: like the matchup with Decker, who's now the number one 687 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: wide receiver for the Broncos playing against the Dolphins. Percy 688 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: Harvin I don't particularly care for but I like him 689 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: more than in Nate Washington only because he's going to 690 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: be a guy who will give you some rushing yards potentially. 691 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: And again I'm just I'm not a Nate Washington guy. Yeah, 692 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: That's where I came down. To for me too, between 693 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: Harvard and Washington. With Harvon didn't have a week to week, 694 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: and with Washington, I thought he would do better as 695 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: the number one wide receiver. Your point is, well, take 696 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: him that he's always double covered. Right. Well, let me 697 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: just throw this out here since I got called out 698 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: here by my co host for liking Nate Washington. The 699 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: reason I like you, I like actually the other co host, 700 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: the Italian one. Uh. The reason I like Nate Washington 701 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: is because they're playing the Texans, and the Texans had 702 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: trouble getting to Flacco last week. Flacco was able to 703 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: complete some deep, deep balls and and uh, I just 704 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: see the Titans being able to do that to Nate 705 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: or with Nate Washington this weekend. Eric Decker. I have 706 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: Eric Decker on my team. I want Eric Decker to 707 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: be good, But the reality is he caught two passes 708 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: for negative four yards last week and he's got a 709 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: new quarterback in there. Until I see that he and 710 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 1: Tebow has some kind of connection, then I actually trust 711 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: hassleback to Washington more than I do Tebow to Decker. 712 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: So for me, the decision would come down between Harvin 713 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: and Decker as opposed to Harvin and Washington. What say you, Jason? 714 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: It comes down to me between Harvard and Nate Washington, 715 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: and I like Nate Washington more. Look, Tebow's got to 716 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: throw the ball to somebody. Eric Decker has proven he's 717 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, maybe de Marius Thomas, but with 718 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Lloyd out of the equation, he has to throw 719 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: the football to Eric Decker. Percy Harvin, I'm not convinced 720 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 1: that going into this week suddenly he's gona a big 721 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: week From Christian Ponder, I have more confidence, if I'm 722 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: talking about getting points from anybody, I have more confidence 723 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: than Nate Washington will get in the end zone than 724 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: I will Percy Harvon. So for me, it comes down 725 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: to that Ingra I'm not a big fan of, but 726 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: he has been in the end zone the last couple 727 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: of weeks. Maybe he's starting to get it. But yeah, 728 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: for me, it comes down to I just I don't 729 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't trust Nate Washington. That's just me. Eight eight 730 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: eight XM NFC eight at eight nine six three to 731 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: six eight two Jason Smith, Michael Fabiano, Elliot Harrison from 732 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live, the NFL Network, also NFL dot Com 733 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll get to some big starts and 734 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: sits four running backs also continue to help you set 735 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: your fantasy lineup, as NFL Fantasy Live on series two 736 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: ten x seven rolls on can be available to you. 737 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: So again, I think Josh Freeman is a good start. 738 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: Give me, give me a point total if you're starting 739 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: one of if you're going out and you're starting a 740 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: guy off your bench, you're starting a guy with the 741 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: waiver wire, give me a point total that you can 742 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: expect to say, Okay, this is a good week from 743 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: my backup quarterback. I think playing this, I think if 744 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: you can get fifteen points from your quarterback, that's a 745 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: good week. If you're getting standard four points for a 746 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: passing touchdown, I think that's very good. I would never 747 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: sneeze at somebody who scores fifteen fantasy points at the 748 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: quarterback position, especially if it's a guy like a Freeman, 749 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: or if it's a guy like a Cutler or a 750 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan who haven't been real consistent this season. Fifteen 751 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: points to me without your number one quarterback in there, 752 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: whether because of injury or by I take that all 753 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: day long. Yeah. I think if you're over two hundred 754 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. Anything else is gravy. Now, I gotta 755 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: realize you're gonna get a couple of picks in there. Whatever. 756 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: But I think if you over two hundred and two touchdowns, Elliott, 757 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: I think, okay, don't get you can't say, oh boy, 758 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: this guy to do it, that's pretty good. I agree. 759 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that you use fifteen as you're 760 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: line of demarcation there because Matt money Smith, who's obviously 761 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: on NFL Fantasy Live with Us on NFL Network, he 762 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: and I did our projections for j Cutler and Josh Freeman, 763 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: and we had Cutler coming in at fourteen point nine, 764 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: the two of us, we had Freeman coming in at 765 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: ten point nine. So we have Freeman much lower than 766 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: you guys do. And Cutler were right at that cup. 767 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: But it sounds like you guys both like Freeman over Cutler. 768 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Yeah this week. Yeah, but it's close though, I mean 769 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: it's close. I mean, I'm not I'm not I'm not 770 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 1: upset if I'm saying, okay, color, I think it's close. 771 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: Freeman's coming off the bigger week. Obviously, we think they're 772 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: gonna throw the football a little bit more. But you 773 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: know what, they get the ball to Earnest Graham a lot. 774 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Last week he ran over. I don't know, I don't know. 775 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: I could do it to him again. What's funny is that, 776 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: especially with are Johnson out, you've got you've got a 777 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: pocket of quarterbacks about five guys Freeman, Shop Flacco, Ryan 778 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: Cutler that you can get a great game one week 779 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: and just an absolute stinker the next week. Uh, those 780 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: guys have not been seriously consistent this season. So you 781 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: play the matchups, and you roll the dice, and and 782 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: that's what you're left with, especially during the bio weeks 783 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: XM Fantasy three to six, eight two. And then we 784 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: get through to us Jason Smith, Michael Fabiano, and Elliot 785 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: Harrison from the NFL Network and NFL dot Com Ball 786 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. You're an NFL Fantasy Live. What do 787 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: you got time team? Not PR League. My starting running 788 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: backs are gonna be Graham and Peterson. I need two 789 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers and a flex from the following four choices. 790 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: I got Date Washington, Percy Harvin, Eric Decker and mark Ingram. 791 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: You need three of those four? Correct? Who do I 792 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: leave out? I leave out Nate Washington Man I just 793 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: don't like Nate Washington ever since Kenny. I know Elliott's 794 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: already laughing because he does like Nate Washington. But ever 795 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: since Britt's gone down, Nate Washington's production has gone down 796 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 1: because he's drawn the number one corner from the opposing team. 797 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: And if you look at Nate Washington's production while he's 798 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: been with the Tennessee Titans and the number one, he's 799 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: not very good. It's not very good. I mean, Justin 800 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: Gage was actually a better fantasy actor than him, uh 801 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: for a time there with the Tennessee Titans. I like 802 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: the matchup with mark Ingram against the Colts. I like 803 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: the matchup with Decker who's now the number one wide 804 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: receiver for the Broncos playing against the Dolphins. Percy Harvin 805 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't particularly care for, but I like him more 806 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: than in Nate Washington only because he's going to be 807 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: a guy who will give you some rushing yards potentially. 808 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: And again I'm just I'm not a Nate Washington guy. Yeah, 809 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: That's where I came down to for me too, between 810 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: Harvan and Washington. With Harvon week to week and with Washington, 811 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: I thought he would do better as the number one 812 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Your point is well taken that he's always 813 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: double covered. Right. Well, let me just throw this out 814 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: here since I got called out here by my co 815 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: host for liking Nate Washington. The reason I like you, 816 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: I like actually the other co host, the Italian one. Uh. 817 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: The reason I like Nate Washington is because they're playing 818 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: the Texans, and the Texans had trouble getting to Flacco 819 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: last week. Flacco was able to complete some deep, deep 820 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: balls and and uh, I just see the Titans being 821 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: able to do that to Nate or with Nate Washington 822 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: this weekend. Eric Decker, I have Eric Decker on my team. 823 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: I want Eric Decker to be good, But the reality 824 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: is he caught two passes for negative four yards last week, 825 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: and he's got a new quarterback in there. Until I 826 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: see that he and Tebow have some kind of connection, 827 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: then I actually trust hassleback to Washington more than I 828 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: do Tibo to Decker. So for me, the decision would 829 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: come down between harvn and Decker as opposed to Harvan 830 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: and Washington. What say you, Jason? It comes down to 831 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: me between Harvard and Nate Washington, And I like Nate 832 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: Washington more look, Tebow's got to throw the ball to somebody. 833 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: Eric Decker has proven he's the guy. I mean, maybe 834 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: de Marius Thomas, but with Brandon Lloyd out of the equation, 835 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: he has to throw the football to a Decker. Percy Harvin, 836 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that going into this week suddenly he's 837 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: gonna a big week. From Christian Ponder, I have more 838 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: confidence if I'm talking about getting points from anybody, I 839 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: have more confidence than Nate Washington will get in the 840 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: end zone than I will Percy Harvon. So for me, 841 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: it comes down to that Ingram not a big fan 842 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: of but he has been in the end zone the 843 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, maybe starting to get it. But yeah, 844 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: for me, it comes down to I don't I don't 845 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: trust Nate Washington. That's just me. Eight eight eight XM 846 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: Fantasy eight at eight nine six three to six eight 847 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: two Jason Smith, Michael Fabriano, Elliot Harrison from NFL Fantasy Live, 848 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: the NFL Network also NFL dot Com. Coming up next, 849 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: we'll get to some big starts and sits for running backs. 850 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: Also continue to help you set your fantasy lineup as 851 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live on Series two ten XM eight seven 852 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: rolls on We you know the down Boys go to 853 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: the end zone. Jason Smith, Michael Fabiano, Elliot Harrison from 854 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: NFL Network and NFL dot Com, as we help you 855 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: set your lineups over the next hour plus. Here on 856 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: the show today, gonna give you some running back starts 857 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: over the next couple of minutes. Here Michael Fabiano, the 858 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: top rated expert across the nation as far as started 859 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: six percentage, goes some running backs we like right there, 860 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys. I'll kick it off. I 861 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,959 Speaker 1: like Jackie Battle, I've been saying for the last week. Look, 862 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: I love his potential because he is a guy who 863 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: there's once or twice a year there's that running back 864 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: on the waiver wire who has that potential to be 865 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: a number one running back for the rest of the season. 866 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: Battles that guy. I think de Marco Murray could be 867 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: that guy in Dallas because Felix Jones is injury and 868 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 1: he's not been able to produce. But Fabs, there's guys 869 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: you'd like to and I know Ryan Matthews highlights that list. Yeah, 870 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, your your Jets just not very good against 871 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: the run this year. There a lot of average of 872 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: about twenty two phasy points per game the running backs 873 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: that sixth month, and it looks like he's going to 874 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: be back. So Ryan Matthews a nice start, and you 875 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: gotta wrote Richard menten Hall as well, great game last 876 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: week and I think his success will continue against the Cardinals. 877 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: We mentioned mark Ingram is a good start. Jackie Battle 878 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: also maybe a flex play against the Raiders. We don't 879 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: know what's going on with the backfield situation. Washington keep 880 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: tabs on that, but I do think Ryan Duran, if 881 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: you're desperate you need a flex starter, you can roll 882 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: with him. And you mentioned de Marco Murray. I mean 883 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: he is a very nice sleep of this week. The 884 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: Rams have been terrible against the run. We all know that, 885 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: although the Packers couldn't do anything against him last week. 886 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: But I think de Marco Murray because Felix Jones is 887 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: out for several weeks with that ankle, comes in and 888 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,479 Speaker 1: sees a lot of targets, a lot of touches, maybe 889 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: two Shark choice also plays a role in this offense. 890 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: Maybe he's a flex starter in a deeper league, But 891 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: I go with upside. I go with youth. And I'm 892 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: going with Murray over Choice this week if I had 893 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: to pick one of the two. Yeah, I've been talking 894 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: up to Marco Murray. I think Jason Garrett starting to 895 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: trust him. We've seen him play. He played Week one 896 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: against the Jets. Uh, he's gotten on the field. Uh 897 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: you know, two shard Choice came in there. He put 898 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: the ball on the carpet and the first or second 899 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: quarter against the Patriots. And when you're a backup running 900 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: back and you're handling the ball five, six, eight times 901 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: a game, tops, you can't fumble. You just you can't 902 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: do it because the coaches aren't gonna have confidence in you. 903 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 1: I think Murray is a guy who gets the majority 904 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: of the plays there. But we do have one caller 905 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: on the line, Brian in Chicago. Brian, what's up man? Hey? 906 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: Thanks take him a call. I appreciate it. Hey. I'm 907 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm friving one of my league right now. I've been 908 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: doing really good, but this by league is killing me. 909 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: I got like Stevie Johnson, Fred Jackson, Bradshaw all on 910 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: a buy so I'm really fighting for guys. I drafted 911 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: Daniel Thomas. I'm thinking about the pardon him. Um, but 912 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: I got Sydney Rice as my third receivers a flex. 913 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't really have any other options to really go 914 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: with unless I go to waiver wire. Do you think 915 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: I should just roll with that instead of making any 916 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: transactions or should I go for the waiver wire and 917 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: maybe go after that Murray kid from Dallas and drop 918 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: somebody else on my on my roster. I'm just I 919 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: don't really want to just you know, suck it up 920 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: for one week and you know, possibly take a loss 921 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: because I'm doing pretty well in my league. I'm finally 922 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: with the most points scored so far, you know, and 923 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to just like nail it in for 924 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: a week, you know, right, Brian, Well, I I you know, 925 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: I'll just say this before I let Jason Fabs get 926 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: to it. Then. I don't know that Sydney Rice is 927 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: a horrible play against the Browns. I agree with you, Jason. 928 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: I could see some points being scored in that game. 929 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 1: I like DeMarco Murray, but that doesn't mean that he's 930 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: gonna out of warm, right. So I don't think when 931 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: you say should you go to the waiver wire and 932 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: get to Marco Murray, I'm not sold that he's necessarily 933 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna outproduce Sidney Rice because Sydney Rice, like him or not, 934 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: is a number one option in Seattle. But I'll defer 935 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: to you guys. But he Here's the thing is I 936 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: like de Marco Murray going forward. I think he's gonna 937 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: keep this job. Fabs, I think, you know, Felix Jones 938 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: is hurt. He's not. He's gonna be out about a month. 939 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: They don't trust a sharp choice. He's a guy that's 940 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 1: gonna be He's not a Bernard Scott who's gonna play 941 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: one week when Cedric Benson serves aspension, that's gonna be 942 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: back to Cedric Benson. I think he's a guy going forward. 943 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: I'd go out and get him. I think you have 944 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: to go and get him. I agree with Elliott, though, 945 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: I think Sidney Rice not a bad play at all. Uh. 946 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: You know, unless you've got just like you know, an 947 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: all star fantasy roster, there's gotta be somebody you can drop, 948 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: a second tight end, a second kicker or defense. Because 949 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people do that for some 950 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: unforeseen ca reason that I have no idea why. But 951 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: I still go out and get Murray and not not 952 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: at the expense of Sydney Rice. But there's gotta be 953 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: a spot that you can replace uh with Murray. So 954 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: you're saying, drop Neil Rackers and go get to market 955 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: number two Kickers. 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