WEBVTT - NBA Draft Reaction with Matt McEwan

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<v Speaker 1>We're live. I'm sorry, I'm late. There's some protests in

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<v Speaker 1>this city. What else is new on this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>The Heat check Man twenty twenty two draft is history

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<v Speaker 1>and oh my god, the pre draft consensus number one,

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<v Speaker 1>Jabari Smith went third overall to Houston, a team that

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<v Speaker 1>cleared a spot on their roster for him, traded a

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<v Speaker 1>player for him, Paolo ban Carrol, the pre draft consensus

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<v Speaker 1>number three, was drafted number one despite never working out

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<v Speaker 1>with the Magic And that was just the beginning, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>just utter and complete madness. We will break it down

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<v Speaker 1>all along with you, along with some Kyrie news on

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<v Speaker 1>his quote unquote preferred destinations. Seems like a divorce is

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<v Speaker 1>inevitable in Brooklyn. We also have a great interview with

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<v Speaker 1>Matt McEwan, a betting insider. I help us understand all

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<v Speaker 1>of the insanity around the NBA Draft and what that

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<v Speaker 1>meant from a betting perspective. So much chaos, Brock, I

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<v Speaker 1>need you to drop that from Welcome, Welcome to our

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<v Speaker 1>post draft show, live, absolutely live. We are going to

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<v Speaker 1>have on Matt McEwan later on today, editor in chief

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<v Speaker 1>of Sports Betting Dime, friend of the show. He is

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<v Speaker 1>going to break down the odds, betting odds for the

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<v Speaker 1>number one pick and why it went so wonky also

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly before we also get into some news. Google

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<v Speaker 1>Palo Ban Carro's suit for Draft night. If you're wondering

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<v Speaker 1>do I hate this or do I actually love this?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just tell you this. This one little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of news I think will change your mind. If you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was that on Palo Ban Carro's purple suit? Those

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<v Speaker 1>are solitaire diamonds? Fire, absolute fire. Anyone who can put

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<v Speaker 1>I think four carrot diamonds all around his suit, plastered

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<v Speaker 1>on and so on. This man knew he was going

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<v Speaker 1>number one. Sesh all right. So after what felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of news, after what felt like fake information,

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation disinformation about the growing impass, the growing impasse between

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<v Speaker 1>the Brooklyn Nets and the Kyrie Irving camp, which be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just Kyrie Irving. There is no camp, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no It's like, that's just a that's a very large

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<v Speaker 1>over statement. Turns out, where there's smoke, there's burning sage. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets have now all but confirmed they are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to offer Kyrie the max that he's looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Kai is opting out of his deal most likely,

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<v Speaker 1>and is floating out all sorts of wild ass landing

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<v Speaker 1>spots for a sign in trade. Kyrie texted Sat Shams

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<v Speaker 1>and floated out a bunch of teams he would like

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<v Speaker 1>to be traded for. Lakers, Clippers, Knicks, heat Maps, Sixers,

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<v Speaker 1>all of whom don't have any fucking cap space. Sixers.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean to tell me he's gonna play with James Harden?

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is some boys. A week ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have said the odds of Kyrie going to another

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<v Speaker 1>team or zero point zero percent, I would give you

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<v Speaker 1>plus five thousand odds, which is five hundred to one.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me ten dollars, I give you five thousand dollars. Maschool. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anymore. Up and down, Down is up.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie might again be playing with Lebron. This is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of those insane offseasons. This is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like the Lebron James to Lakers offseason. It feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's break it down really quickly. According to Sam Ammick,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a far fetched idea quote that Kyrie will

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<v Speaker 1>be in purple and gold next season, And let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I need it I need it, I want it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what he said. You've got people within the

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<v Speaker 1>league actually thinking, man, I think he might find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get back together with Lebron, And I do

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<v Speaker 1>get the sense that Lebron would open that door, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see if they can pull that off. Leave it

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<v Speaker 1>to the Lakers to sign another future Hall of Famer

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<v Speaker 1>who's a massive headache and probably won't still make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>With you, I cannot express to you how much I

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<v Speaker 1>need this. I cannot express to you how much I

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<v Speaker 1>want this. Because Kyrie and Braun and nobody else that

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<v Speaker 1>can play defense or shoot is just gonna be glorious television.

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<v Speaker 1>Delusional Laker fans will already buy their tickets to the finals,

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<v Speaker 1>are already bet on the Lakers to win it all

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<v Speaker 1>before they'll plan the parade, their location of said parade.

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<v Speaker 1>By training camp, they still won't play defense. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>where or how Kyrie ends up in Lakerland, somehow, Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Presty will end up with another first round pick because

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Once again, the Brooklyn Nets will dominate the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA offseason news and with rumors now that if Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>goes KD goes interesting, I know a lot of DC

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<v Speaker 1>fans think you can get them. You're not gonna get them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna get them. I'm sorry, you're just not.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe a three team trade where Kyrie goes through Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>or Kadi goes to Washington, or maybe be O goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bo goes then to the Nets. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but Katie's not playing for DC, y'all. He might want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Miami. He might want to go to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>He might want to go that Dallas is a good location.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike thinking about Phoenix. Phoenix would be an interesting spot

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Denver interesting spot for him. Chaos is a ladder,

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<v Speaker 1>as they say, and that ladder has a permanent home

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<v Speaker 1>in Barclay Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move forward towards the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>It was absolute madness during the draft. Madness thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>before madness twenty four hours before. Things themed set in

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<v Speaker 1>concrete until they were not. Briefly, here is what happened massively.

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<v Speaker 1>Consensus number one pick twenty four hours before the draft

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<v Speaker 1>ended up going third. The guy Houston restructed their restructured

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<v Speaker 1>their roster to draft Powol. Ben Carol ended up going

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<v Speaker 1>number one to Orlando. The team he actually rejected working

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<v Speaker 1>out for five times. They asked him to come in

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<v Speaker 1>for a workout five times, and he was like his

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<v Speaker 1>people's were like, no, why would we do that. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't even care you're taking Jabbari. And they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'd really like to evaluate all three of y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were like, no, we're good, we know you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking Jabbari. Stop playing around. And then they called back like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd like to see we'd like to see Paolo. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, GoF, we told you you're taking Jabbari. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, you know, Monday of the Monday of draft week,

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<v Speaker 1>they call and they're like, hey, any chance we could

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<v Speaker 1>just do like a zoom workout? They're like, no, GoF

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday there, Wednesday before the draft, the day before the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, hey, any chance you could just fly in

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<v Speaker 1>on the way to Barclays. We'll get you in on

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<v Speaker 1>draft day on Thursday. We'll get you out any chance,

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<v Speaker 1>two hour, three hour flight, whatever it is, any chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, it's weird that you'd be asking us

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<v Speaker 1>this day before but still not interested, and I go

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<v Speaker 1>where fine, and they just decided we're taking them anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting stuff, very interesting. Sacramento Kings came out whift again.

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<v Speaker 1>They took Keegan Murray at number four when everybody thought

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<v Speaker 1>that they could move down, and they would move down.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a million suitors for Jade and Ivy, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they got a guy who's probably in a dreamland,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Kuzma. In a dreamland, he turns into Kyle Kuzma.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet they could have just drafted Kyle. They could have

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<v Speaker 1>just taken that number four pick, traded it to the

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<v Speaker 1>Wizards and gotten Kyle Kuzma and probably the number ten pick. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't like Kyle Kuzma's decision making, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a wing player and an athlete, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that keeps Bradley Beal in DC. Detroit Pistons could

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<v Speaker 1>not have drafted Jade n Ivy faster. They were like,

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<v Speaker 1>what this guy's here? Yes, excuse me, yes, created this

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<v Speaker 1>complicated set of moves with trot Troy Weaver twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours ago with everyone killing the Pistons for trading Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Grant for a bag of potato chips, which we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about and people wanted to Then after the draft wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to build a statue around Troy Weaver and Detroit. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how fast things changed. At least a dozen teams were

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<v Speaker 1>jocking to get Jade and Ivy after Detroit picked him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like no. They ended up also making some moves with

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty twenty five first round pick that they got

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<v Speaker 1>from Portland in the Jeremy Grand trade that everyone said

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<v Speaker 1>that they got nothing for to get Jalen Durn. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they moved up to the twelfth spot, thirteen spot, moved

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<v Speaker 1>up to the thirteen spot to get Jalen Durn and

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<v Speaker 1>somehow they screwed the Knicks over in the process. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>discuss the Knicks. Probably the most disappointing draft night for

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks fans. Steven A Smith in consolable. He's getting shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>rubs from Spike Lee. Like Spike Lee's name is Drake

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<v Speaker 1>and steven A's name is Nick Nurse. On the sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>of a finals game. They traded away their eleventh pick

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<v Speaker 1>for a bunch of future first rounders that are protected

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<v Speaker 1>basically for the entire first round, so you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>get them, all right, We're gonna give you twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three first round pick protected up into twenty nine. Uh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what so you mean to tell me unless I win

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<v Speaker 1>the championship next year. Unless unless you win the championship

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<v Speaker 1>next year, I don't get this pick. Yeah. Yeah, Also,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Detroit pick. It doesn't convey unless they are

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth picker. Worse, wait, so you mean to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me Detroit has to make the playoffs next year in

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<v Speaker 1>order for me to get this Yes, and somehow Leon

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<v Speaker 1>Rose neglected to do that research. It's just a few

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<v Speaker 1>first round picks that probably will never convey. They traded

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<v Speaker 1>Kemba Walk, They moved Kemba Walker away, got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>some cap space for Jalen Brunson player. I love a player.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know that. I like a lot table setter.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Point are very traditionally sound set the table, tough

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<v Speaker 1>defensively Villanova, tough guy. But he's largely expected, like, at

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<v Speaker 1>least on draft night, was largely expected to be back

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<v Speaker 1>in a Dallas Maverick's uniform. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>speculation about why you do that, baby, Why you do

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<v Speaker 1>that trade if he's going back to Dallas because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any other options. Mark Cuban thinks he can

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<v Speaker 1>resign him good things he can they can resign them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's probably gonna cost him in the upper twenties

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<v Speaker 1>to get them if they can get them. And now

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy and others are reporting that the Knicks are inching

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<v Speaker 1>closer to making Brunson a reality in New York because

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<v Speaker 1>because because because of the wonderful things he does. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not why. Because Rick Brunson is an assistant for

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<v Speaker 1>the New York next his dad. Yeah, the Brunson family,

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<v Speaker 1>So they must have a little little home cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just not a coincidence. There's another Brunson there

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually his daddy. But this is a big ass

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<v Speaker 1>But what if they can't get Brunson, what do they do?

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<v Speaker 1>What Bruns is like, sorry, dad, I love you, but

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<v Speaker 1>you saw what happened with Patrick Baldwin junior right when

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<v Speaker 1>he went to whatever school that was God his dad

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<v Speaker 1>fired in the process, his draft stock boomed kaboomed. Can

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<v Speaker 1>they go and get de Jontay Murray with some of

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<v Speaker 1>the whack ass pieces that they have and trade those

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<v Speaker 1>away and maybe have to move some first round picks

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<v Speaker 1>that they got they probably won't convey to San Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>M m I don't know that R. C. Buford is

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<v Speaker 1>doing that deal. I don't know if he's like he

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<v Speaker 1>will suss out that those trade that those pieces and

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<v Speaker 1>those those first round picks won't convey. He knows how

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<v Speaker 1>it all works. This could be an unmitigated disaster. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the Knicks. What do you expect? It's Madison Square Garden

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<v Speaker 1>and Dolan And I love Dolan. You guys know that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good dude. Good dude Dolan. I always say

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<v Speaker 1>that JD. And he's also he's also a good guitarist.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard he does a good job. Moving on, Oka

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<v Speaker 1>see found a way to make moves like only Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Presty can. They picked Chad up at number two. They

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<v Speaker 1>traded up to get Uzman Jang at eleven. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to give up two well to get Jang at eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Took another skinny big man who can play and can pass.

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<v Speaker 1>He's six eleven, one hundred and ninety pounds, just like Chet.

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<v Speaker 1>They should work out perfect together. They took Jalen Williams

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<v Speaker 1>from Santa Clara at twelve, another good kid who's moved

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<v Speaker 1>up the draft board. Then they took another Jalen Williams

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<v Speaker 1>two Jalen Williams, Yes, one with the al, one with

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<v Speaker 1>the A Y L. Yes, it's true. He played at Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one played at Santa Clara. It's true. Just

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<v Speaker 1>to full on kick ash draft for OKC to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where I say, are they my league past team?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure, but it's close. Sga Giddy, Lou dort Chet,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Williams, Jalen Williams, A lot of them. Chatter that

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to move up to seven. Didn't end up happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Presty still playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers,

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<v Speaker 1>ended up trading three first rounders to the Knicks, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were the three least valuable first round picks that

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<v Speaker 1>he has out of the nineteen that he has. And

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<v Speaker 1>they still have sixteen first rounders in the next six years. Blazers, fam,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Is it good? Is it bad? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I haven't seen the kid play. No one

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<v Speaker 1>has seen Shaden Sharp play in the last twelve months.

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<v Speaker 1>Shade Sharp has not played any competitive basketball in the

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<v Speaker 1>last year, but because of the way that these rules work,

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to declare early for college come in

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<v Speaker 1>and the spring semester, thought about playing when's backcourt for

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky was all banged up. Calipari mench move, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're only gonna hurt yourself in your draft stock. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't need this. They ended up getting bounced out the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. Calipari tie. The kid thinks he could be

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<v Speaker 1>a first round pick next year, number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Next year. We took Shaden Sharp seven. What does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean for a team that says that they are contending

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<v Speaker 1>and building a contender around Dame in the immediate future,

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<v Speaker 1>but we haven't seen him play basketball competitively in over

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<v Speaker 1>a year. I don't know. Does that mean he could

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<v Speaker 1>be a next superstar? Maybe? Am I patient with Shaden?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely is Dame patient with Shaden Sharp? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing that's the big upside. You listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Shaden Sharp talk. He says, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>can be the best player to ever play basketball. I

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do? Since you don't have a comp

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<v Speaker 1>on me, you don't have a scouting report on me

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<v Speaker 1>because I've played no competitive basketball in twelve months. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you what I do. Straight line drives

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<v Speaker 1>to the rim. I play above the rim at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm long. He's six foot He's six foot five with

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<v Speaker 1>a seven foot wingspan, can shoot the three effectively, plays

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<v Speaker 1>very tough defense. He's skinny as hell. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't skinny as hell, who does that remind you of?

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<v Speaker 1>To me? Aunt Edwards? To me shades of brandon Ingram.

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<v Speaker 1>Can he be the next aunt Edwards? Can he be

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<v Speaker 1>the next BI? We're gonna have to see in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of all this, Like I said, KDE rumors flying around.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants to make moves in the draft anymore

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<v Speaker 1>because they're like, we might need the cap space for KD.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that do? Creates more chaos. Memphis Grizzlies seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be involved in half the draft picks in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round, ending up with Jake Lauravia and David Roddy

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<v Speaker 1>at the expense of d Anthony Melton. The Wizards did

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<v Speaker 1>everything that they could do to push Bradley Beale out

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<v Speaker 1>of DC Yeah, by drafting at ten instead of going

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<v Speaker 1>to get a veteran point guard with that number ten spot.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like this was an interesting choice given the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Bradley Beal said that his number one priority

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of his free agency decision is winning. Can

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie point guard out of Wisconsin get you to

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<v Speaker 1>winning in your prime? Bradley Beal, even Bradley Beal, who

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<v Speaker 1>I know is delusional, who I know wants to make

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<v Speaker 1>this work in his heart, knows this is not the way.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was a betting woman, which I am, I

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<v Speaker 1>would bet that Bradley Beal is not happy right now

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<v Speaker 1>with Johnny Davis on this team. What does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>for his free agency status? Possibly deuces, Possibly deuces. San

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Spurs continued. A lot of DC fans want him

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<v Speaker 1>out because he's gonna make sixty million. We'll have to see.

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<v Speaker 1>San Antonio. Spurs continue to march to the beat of

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<v Speaker 1>their own drum. They do not give a fool about

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<v Speaker 1>what anybody thinks. That's why they took Josh Primo twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sloughts higher than anybody thought. That's why they started with

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<v Speaker 1>the Draymond clones in Jeremy Sohan, got better with Malachi

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<v Speaker 1>brand at twenty, who I loved. Then they ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting Blake Wesley at twenty five. All of them were

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<v Speaker 1>way up the Spurs draft board, Brandon being pegged as

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<v Speaker 1>a mid lottery pick at one point. Interesting, interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait to see how this all ends up.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have Matt mcewanon, Wow, what great timing. Amazing

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<v Speaker 1>timing here, So let's talk about it. So first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday we saw a series of unprecedenting swings in the

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<v Speaker 1>odds for who would go number one in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>In the span of eight hours, Jabari Smith went from

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<v Speaker 1>negative ten thousand, which means for every dollar you bet,

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<v Speaker 1>you get back one penny, to plus three hundred to

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<v Speaker 1>plus three hundred, which means for every dollar you bet

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<v Speaker 1>bet you get back three dollars, and then it went

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<v Speaker 1>back down again. Eventual number one pick, Paolo ben Caro

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<v Speaker 1>was plus twenty two hundred, which means every dollar you

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<v Speaker 1>get back, you get every dollar you bet, you get

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two back. Ten days ago. Never seen anything like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Benedict Matherren love him. Ben Mathren maybe gonna be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best players in the draft. Pacers took him

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<v Speaker 1>at number six. Snake this Jeremy Sohan spurs very interesting pickup.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he could become a more offensive shooting threat.

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<v Speaker 1>But like a Draymond Green. Loved Jake Laavia and that

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<v Speaker 1>pick Grizzlies took him at nineteen. He's a dog. He

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<v Speaker 1>fits in with what they want to do. Absolutely, Max

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<v Speaker 1>Christy on the Lakers number thirty five. Quick little story.

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers targeted Andrew Nemhard, but he went number thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were very, very happy to get Christy in

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<v Speaker 1>this spot. Probably ranked in the twenties on many draft boards,

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<v Speaker 1>basically a better version of thht. Lakers also ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting Scottie Pippen Junior and Sharif O'Neill. Interesting pedigree of

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<v Speaker 1>names there, and then the Pelicans end up getting EJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladell at forty one. Is he gonna be this? This

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<v Speaker 1>Ayu de soon move version like somebody who slipped in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft probably should have been a number one pick

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<v Speaker 1>or number first round pick. I'm not sure, but it

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<v Speaker 1>could be who I think is Suskeek and Murray. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a diet Wish version of Kyle Kuzma. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute dream if he becomes Kyle Kuzma. And I

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<v Speaker 1>put this out there because the Kings have been atrocious

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<v Speaker 1>in their draft history. This is a team that took

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin Bagley at two, Luca went three, took Thomas Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>f five, Dame went six, jimmerferdn At ted ten, Clay

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<v Speaker 1>Win eleven. So the Kings don't get any benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the doubt from me at all. When Keegan is a

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<v Speaker 1>nice piece, that's fine. But Jaden Ivy was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody said will will make an impact now, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Kings are gonna get murdered for this pick. I

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<v Speaker 1>also am a little suspect on Dyson Daniels, a little

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<v Speaker 1>suspect on Uzman Jang. We'll break that down the next

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<v Speaker 1>teak mq andon. Wow, what great timing. Amazing timing here,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about it. So first and foremost, yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>we saw a series of unprecedenting swings in the odds

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<v Speaker 1>for who would go number one in the draft. In

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<v Speaker 1>the span of eight hours, Jabari Smith went from negative

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand, which means for every dollar you bet you

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<v Speaker 1>get back one penny, to plus three hundred to plus

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred, which means for every dollar you bet bet

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<v Speaker 1>you get back three dollars, and then it went back

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<v Speaker 1>down again. Eventual number one pick PLO Ben Carol was

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<v Speaker 1>plus twenty two hundred, which means every dollar you get

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<v Speaker 1>back you get every dollar you bet you get twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two back ten days ago. Never seen anything like this,

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<v Speaker 1>so to help us understand what all happened and how

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<v Speaker 1>it might affect future drafts as a league as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome Matt McEwan. Matt is editor in chief of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sports Betting Dime. He has been a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>a show for a long time now. He is also

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<v Speaker 1>he has created their futures trackers, score predictors and other

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<v Speaker 1>betting models. Welcome to the show, Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>He so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks for coming on. Man. It was what a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy time it is to be a sports betting person

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<v Speaker 1>in the business. I had people even that were people

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<v Speaker 1>that were newsbreakers who wanted to get my perspective in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of how this blew up on Twitter, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not just gambling Twitter, but NBA Twitter. So I figured,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for the people to get somebody on who

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<v Speaker 1>does this all the time and understands how markets move.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to have you on explain to those

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<v Speaker 1>maybe who don't bet or don't understand, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>these things go, how we can get odds change so

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<v Speaker 1>rapidly and so wildly in such a short period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just in one direction where everything goes and stays,

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<v Speaker 1>but then in every direction.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I'm interested all boils down to money. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>And these sports books they aren't you know, they're in

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<v Speaker 4>the betting industry, but they're not into making bets themselves. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>They're not sitting here saying, okay, we're okay if we're

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<v Speaker 4>you know, have.

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<v Speaker 3>This massive liability on Palo to go first.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, their job is to even the money up proportionally.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>What they want is, again it's not necessarily an equal

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<v Speaker 4>amount of money on each side, but what they need

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<v Speaker 4>is a proportional amount of money on each side.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I say that because hey, if you got minus

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<v Speaker 4>one ten odds on each side, sure you want equal

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<v Speaker 4>money on each side. But when we're talking about something

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<v Speaker 4>like you just said there where Jabari Smith was minus

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<v Speaker 4>ten thousand, you know that's okay. You you you should

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot more money on Jabari Smith than you

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<v Speaker 4>should have on anybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know this, this was just very interesting to

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<v Speaker 4>see the money flowing, right, And that's exactly what happened

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<v Speaker 4>here was you know, and we live in this age

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<v Speaker 4>of social media now and it's becoming stronger in the

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<v Speaker 4>insiders and the rumors, and and you know, whether they're

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<v Speaker 4>real or or fake, they're flowing right. And all it takes,

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<v Speaker 4>as we've seen, is one of them to get a

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<v Speaker 4>ton of people on it willing to say, Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna throw some money on this side. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's got some value. All of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 4>create some steam. You got a ton of money coming

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<v Speaker 4>in there. The book starts saying, we can't have this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, if this event occurs now, we would be

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<v Speaker 4>out a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do we have to do.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to start driving some money on the other options. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So that's where you see this fluctuation happening, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>why you saw it happen so fast, so wildly, like

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 4>you described there, right, there was just this massive flow

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<v Speaker 4>of money that started about seventy two hours ago on

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<v Speaker 4>Palo there. And you know, then Wadge sends out his

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<v Speaker 4>tweet that it is going to be Jabbari, and all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, everybody's back on Jabbari, and so then

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<v Speaker 4>they've got to swing it again because they're all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden liable again. They're not in a good position

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<v Speaker 4>in where the money's lying, right, So it was wild

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, for those who are familiar, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>NFL fans as well, we saw this happen in the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL draft too, right with Aiden Hutchinson and Trevon Walker.

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 4>We even saw it. I mean, if you go a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit further back, Icky and Evan Neil, all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden, we're the favorites to go first overall, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and the same type of thing. It didn't happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>as you know, as abruptly as this one did. But

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 4>as as more markets come online, right, more people are betting,

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<v Speaker 4>there's more money available to be bet and just more

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 4>rumors going around, right, So that's that's why it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>essentially the money.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm curious what can betters learn from this the

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<v Speaker 1>next time it happens, and is there a philosophy because

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like seventy two hours ago there was no

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<v Speaker 1>news that was the reason that Paolo was getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of influx of money other than just the value

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<v Speaker 1>of seeing twenty two twenty one to one odds.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so I mean, if there's a lassing here, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think this goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Beyond sports even Tristan and I know this is a

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<v Speaker 4>sports podcast, but I mean, if there's a lesson, it

0:27:55.840 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 4>is you know, understand the sources that that you're you're trusting, right,

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 4>And it's you know, these insiders understand that they don't

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 4>need firm, credible evidence to go and put out a report, right,

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 4>they just need a rumor and and it's and it's

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 4>a report. So you know, if there's a lesson that

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 4>you had here, I think it's, uh, it's one, you know,

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 4>know your sources, but two, understand that around these drafts,

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 4>nobody knows anything you know, and and the teams themselves

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 4>are are thrown out fake reports to try to throw

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 4>each other off of you know, each other's scent, right.

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 4>The I mean, you know, nobody, nobody wants to nobody.

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 4>They they don't want everybody else knowing who they're taking

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 4>first overall, right, They they would love, they would have loved,

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, somebody to try to trade up to come

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 4>get Jabbari Smith because you know they wanted Jabbari Smith

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 4>and that was their guy, right. So it's it's just

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 4>knowing that these drafts are very unpredictable and and you

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 4>know when you do see twenty two hundred, huts, it

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 4>is worth a little sprinkle. You know, obviously we bet responsibly,

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 4>and you know, don't don't put your life savings on

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 4>something like this, but a couple bucks at twenty two

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 4>hundred at that point, I mean, you know, obviously you

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 4>were laughing come come draft day, if you if you

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 4>got on that train early.

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>How does this compare to other drafts that we've seen

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, because it feels like most are pretty

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>consensus number, Like I'm thinking about the Zion draft. There

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>was nothing that anyone could do to get me to

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>draft any to get me to put money on anyone

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>but Zion. And so how does what we saw last

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>night compared to maybe what you've seen in prior drafts?

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 4>You are absolutely correct, right, I think this was the

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 4>first draft in a little bit that we have seen

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of skepticism over like who who is

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 4>the true number one here?

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Right and there?

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 4>There wasn't any clear sign that it is this guy.

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 4>So no, this this was unique. This, this, wanted to

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 4>be very honest with you, reminded me of of certain

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 4>NFL drafts where there isn't that top flight quarterback right

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 4>whenever you have the top quarterback, you know, you know

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 4>who's going number one. But this reminded me of that

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 4>where it was all of a sudden, you know there.

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 4>I know Chat didn't really ever see like you know,

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 4>his odds short in a ton, but.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I think plus one eighty all the way down to

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>one ten back up the plus four hundred up to

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty two hundred on draft day, So a little.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Some some movement there, right, But he he What I

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 4>was saying is essentially he never became a favorite, right

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 4>like he there there there wasn't this swing to Chat wolveson.

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, it very well could have

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 4>been Chet as well, like there were there were three

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>guys that really it could have been any one of these, right,

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 4>And no that this was truly unique. And this is

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, you get these betting opportunities very seldomly, you know,

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 4>these these types of things, don't. I mean that the

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 4>draft itself only shows up once a year, and like

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 4>you said, most are you know, consensus, there's a number one,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 4>this guy's going. Don't waste your money on anything else, right,

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 4>So no, I mean to your to your point before

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, understand when there is uncertainty and capitalize.

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you think this changes how information like the news

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>information business around events like the draft? Like, does this

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>put does this put pressure on maybe making these non

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>sporting sporting events illegal nationwide because they are so predicated

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>on information and not something that's like completely unpredictable, given

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>that there's already five states, including New York, where it's

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>not legal.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 4>So I personally don't believe we're going to see this

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 4>this mass rush to like, hey, let's not offer odds here.

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 3>This is just too much.

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 4>I think the you know, the moves we'll see are

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 4>are likely going to be you know, there's some states

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 4>that basically shut shut it down like twenty four hours prior.

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 4>That's that's one step I think we would see well

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 4>before anything like that. The other one is just cap

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 4>in the bets, right, like take you know, and they

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 4>already do to an extent. You know, every sportsbook has

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 4>the right to refuse any bet that you come to

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 4>them with, and they do you know, if you showed

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 4>up with you know, half a million dollars on Paolo,

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't think any sportsbook would have taken at.

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Twenty two to one.

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 4>They're like, nah, dog, no, chance, right, No, nobody wants

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 4>that liability.

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Would they let me ask you a quick follow up question,

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>would they move the line even if they didn't take

0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the bet? Just like say I gets them five, I

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>want to put five hundred thousand dollars on Palo twenty

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>two to one. They turn me away? Do then the

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>traders go back into a little powwow and say, holy shit,

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>we there's something that might be don't.

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So that in itself may not move the line

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 4>right away, but that's gonna put high alert on that

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 4>line all of a sudden, and you're gonna have somebody

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 4>watching that line and watching every bet from there out

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 4>that comes in on that line, right and and yeah,

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 4>your your your next bet on that draft is not

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna be accepted as quickly as it would have been

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 4>ten minutes ago. Right, So it may not shut it down,

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 4>but high alert that that that's gonna get the attention.

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 4>So, you know, those are the moves I think we

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 4>would see right just and and and we already do see.

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Them to an extent. They just may continue moving in

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>that direction.

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you're you know, they take less you know, five

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 4>figure bets, four figure bets on these types of events, right,

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't think we'll they take they take too much handle,

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, for for what it is, like it's it's

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 4>worth it for them.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Right. So, Adrian wolj Jzanowski, as well as Sham Sharanya

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to the top newsbreakers in the business have been courted.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>It's no secret they're being courted by books. How does

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>this change if woj is working for someone like points Bet.

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so, I mean that's an interesting one in in

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 3>my opinion here, you know, and I think what what

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 3>we all hope this means is just that his information

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 3>goes to the books first.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Right, That's what they're paying the seven million dollars or

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is for.

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 4>And and that's it, and it's it's basically before you

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 4>go public, it's hey, just let us know so that

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 4>we can put our line either on alert, we can

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 4>move it, or we can just take it down.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, And uh so, what what does that do?

0:34:58.840 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 4>As a better it gives you less opportunities to expose

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 4>a bad line. But again, as we've said, like this

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 4>is only like the informational based betting events too, right,

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 4>so you know, sure Woh might have an injury to

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 4>report ahead of time, right. I feel there's I feel

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 4>there's enough people that are, you know, privy to that

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 4>information that you'll still get it in a reasonable time,

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, And when it comes to a single game

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 4>like that, there's enough handle on it that you're not

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 4>going to instantly start moving that line. So you know,

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 4>it does though, it will limit your opportunities to expose

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 4>a bad line.

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you think what we saw was good for basketball

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>or bad for basketball?

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 4>I thought it was good, So I mean, I'll be

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 4>very honest with you, and and just again from I

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 4>hate to keep calling back to the NFL here. I'm

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 4>sure you know I'm a bit NFL fan. The NFL

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Draft for me anyways, and I think for most Americans

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 4>as well, is a much bigger event than the NBA

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Draft is, you know, and the betting handle says so

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 4>as well. You know, the Johnny Avello was on talking

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 4>about the NFL Draft being at least three times the

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 4>handle of the the NBA Draft, you know. So I

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 4>feel it was good. I feel all this because I mean,

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, every time someone sees a long shot win, right,

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 4>their head gets filled with that could be me, you know,

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 4>next time, maybe maybe that could be me. Maybe I

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 4>could be that lottery winner next time, right, So I.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Think it's great for basketball.

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 4>I think it will drive a little more interest in

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 4>next year's draft and you know, specifically betting on the

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 4>draft as well, right, which I mean that drives a

0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 4>lot of interest.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>We saw a trade before the draft, Christian Wood got

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>moved based on the perception, the false perception that Jabari

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>was a lock to go number one, that Carol was

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>going to be there for Houston at number three. Does

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>this does that change like pre draft trades from got

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>from teams in the lottery perhaps, Like how do you

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>think this changes? I guess how how teams communicate with

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>one another, you know.

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 3>What I mean?

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 4>I think that was always a concern, you know, like

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 4>that was always a risk that that they were taking

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 4>in doing so, right, And I would you know, be

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 4>willing to bet money that this isn't the first time

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 4>that you know, one team maybe fed another team that

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 4>information about what they were doing. You know, I don't

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 4>think that's that's never happened before. So I you know what,

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.240
<v Speaker 4>I I don't I don't think that has any effect.

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, Houston maybe.

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Got burned a little bit, but I think they're gonna

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 4>be okay to borri Ma.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking at odds now for Rookie of the Year,

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and I see that Paolo ban Cao is the odds

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>on favorite plus three hundred. Why does this say he's

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>in Detroit. That's so weird. Anyway, that's strange. Palo ban

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Caro plus plus three hundred. The longest odd that I

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:33.760
<v Speaker 1>see on sports betting Dime is Jalen Duran at thirty

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>to one. I'm curious, though, for those who have never

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>bet on Rookie of the Year before, what's the smartest

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>strategy to bet on that?

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 4>So in in my opinion, here from what I've seen,

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 4>and you know, I've I've been tracking these Rookie of

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 4>the Year odds for about six years now, right, It

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 4>ultimately the main factor is points, sadly, right, which you know,

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of the basketball purists get a

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 4>little upset over this. You know, there's there's a lot

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 4>that goes into the game that you know, and points

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 4>is the sexy stat, right, And it's it's points. It's

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 4>highlight reel plays. You know, how how many times are

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 4>you gonna see Jabbari throwing down on on you know,

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 4>some some big forward.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 3>As well.

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 4>As they're there, they're recently, what I've seen is some

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 4>team success go into it, though, you know, and I

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 4>team team success comes in when there isn't a clear

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 4>cut super sexy point scorer, highlight reel, most night player,

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 4>then it deffers to and And I mean, I think

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 4>that's what you saw with Scottie Barx this this past year,

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 4>winning winning Rookie of the Year, right you looked at

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 4>the Raptors and said he wasn't really key piece in

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 4>getting them to the playoffs going from you know, picking

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 4>was at four uh to up into the playoffs there,

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, so, yeah, he played a massive role on

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 4>that team, and all of a sudden, I think for

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 4>the first time in a while, we saw that come

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 4>into play.

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:17.239
<v Speaker 3>But for the.

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 4>Most part, I think you're looking at which which player

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 4>is going to be on the floor and score.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm betting, I'm betting, and Jamari.

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm take me through the reason the reasoning

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>for that. Jabari obviously on the on the Houston Rocket's

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>going to be playing alongside Jalen Green, a noted chucker

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>willing passer, but noted Chucker can put up you know

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>ten threes a night. Kevin Porter Junior, another noted chucker

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>on that team as well, will shoot from anywhere, not

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>a willing passer. So take me through kind of your

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:54.800
<v Speaker 1>strategy on how you get to Jabbari.

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>So right away, I look, you know, looking at the

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:03.240
<v Speaker 3>favorite Paalo there. I don't love him in that.

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 4>Offense necessarily, and what I mean, I don't love his usage.

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot that, like I think, Orlando has this

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 4>idea that they're gonna compete this year a little bit,

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, which I see you laugh at and I

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of do internally too, because it's the Orlando magic

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:20.799
<v Speaker 4>and we haven't seen them really do that in a

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 4>long time now. But there's a lot of players in

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 4>Orlando that want the ball as well, and especially if

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, like Markel Foltz has like a

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 4>summer where all of a sudden he finds himself again

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 4>and now of a sudden, you've got just all these

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 4>guys that want to get their own I mean, that's

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:45.439
<v Speaker 4>a full that's a loaded roster of young, hungry players there, right.

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 4>So I'm out on him, and his odds are just

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 4>a little little too short for me. With with his

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 4>situation looking around elsewhere, Chat, I have fears over him

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 4>just in the NBA in general. You know, his his

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 4>weight worries me a little bit, and and just how yeah,

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 4>how thin he is, how lean he is. So I

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 4>don't know what that's gonna look like in the NBA,

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 4>I have. I have some doubts there admittedly, So you know,

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 4>looking basically, I look at those top three guys because

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 4>I think they stand above the rest and and and

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, those those are, yeah, in my opinion, the

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 4>kind of top tier guys. And I do look to Houston,

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 4>and that's a situation where you have a team there

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 4>that isn't too far removed from being championship contenders year

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 4>in year out, right, And I think you have a

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 4>like that that's that's still a proud team that wants

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 4>to get back to competing. And I think they've seen

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.879
<v Speaker 4>they can't do that playing basketball the way they did

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 4>the way that you just mentioned them doing. And I

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 4>think there's going to be a very concerted effort from

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 4>the coaching staff to get the ball into Jabbari's hands

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 4>and to be a little more efficient offensively. You know,

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 4>it's very efficient throwing down dunks, so I think we're

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 4>gonna see a lot of Jabbari this year.

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I think we're gonna see the offense run.

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Through Jabbari a little more than some expect, because, like

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 4>I said, I know, I mean Jalen Green shot taker.

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 4>I think Houston's I think Houston's gonna do everything they

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 4>can to put the ball through Jabari's hands. And I

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 4>think he'll be, you know, a little similar to Scottie

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 4>in Toronto, where he's almost like the focal point of

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 4>the offense. He may not score all the points, but

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 4>I think the ball is gonna run through him pretty consistently.

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 1>If if Bradley Beal ends up leaving Washington, is there

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.919
<v Speaker 1>a chance that the line moves on Johnny Davis? It's

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>plus two thousand now, so wow, yeah, that's a great value.

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>So would you take a flyer? And also, on top

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of Johnny Davis, are there any other So I guess

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the two part of question, any other long shots that

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.919
<v Speaker 1>you absolutely love and then long shots that you would

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>absolutely stay away from outside of maybe Mark Williams and

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Durn because of the usage rate.

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 4>So Johnny Davis isn't is a very interesting name there, right,

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 4>And I just have my concerns, like is Bradley Beal

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:40.760
<v Speaker 4>really leaving?

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I don't know.

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 4>At plus two thousand, I absolutely think that's worth a

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 4>little sprinkle. It's not something that I would put a

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 4>ton on there, because I mean, the whole Bradley Beal

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.200
<v Speaker 4>situation is just again it's another one of these like

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.239
<v Speaker 4>NBA draft things like I don't think any but he

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 4>knows the real truth.

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Here, you know.

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 4>And and again I don't like betting a lot of

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:09.320
<v Speaker 4>money on things that I have no idea about, right.

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 3>So when it comes to other long shots, I'm just

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 3>pulling on the board here.

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 4>There's honestly, there's not a ton of names far down

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 4>the board that grab my attention.

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>What about how are you feeling about Shaden Sharp in Portland?

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 4>So, I mean, funny enough, I was just about to

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 4>mention Benedict Mathrin because I wanted him to end up

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 4>in Portland. That that like that that I thought was

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 4>a really ideal fit. And if he ended up there,

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 4>he I think I would have been betting Benedict Mathron,

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 4>Shade and Sharp, I think at twelve to one, same

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 4>things similar to Johnny Davis, where I think it's worth

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 4>a little sprinkle. I'm not I'm not putting a ton

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 4>on on that, but he's He's probably as far down

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 4>the board as I would look, which isn't far, I know,

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 4>but I like it. I mean, you know, Dame wants

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 4>to win now, for Portland to win. I do think

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 4>Dame's going to be taking the final shot every game,

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, and I think that is the best thing

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 4>for Portland. As you know, I think we probably all

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 4>agree with We've seen over the years what that looks like.

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 4>So I do if you're looking, if you're looking outside

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 4>the top tier, I think Shaden Sharp is the the

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, best candidate there for you know, a little

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 4>bit of a long shot.

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Matt. When are we gonna get Kyrie destination odds? Kdie

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>destination odds? What's up with that?

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 4>So, you know what, those are always interesting that, you know,

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:48.359
<v Speaker 4>the books. I do feel the books kind of trying

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 4>to slide those in there real quick, and you know,

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.359
<v Speaker 4>don't they don't make it super public because.

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>They never promote it.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 3>No, and there's a.

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 4>Reason they don't want, you know know, first bet in

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 4>to be you know, one hundred thousand dollars on some

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 4>guy who knows Kevin Durant and you know.

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 3>Knows where he's going.

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:12.959
<v Speaker 4>The books aren't going to open anything there until they

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:17.359
<v Speaker 4>feel they have enough information, right, and again.

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Who knows when that is?

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you had to ask me, I honestly, I

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 4>don't know that we even see any Durant. Odds, I wouldn't.

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.720
<v Speaker 4>I it wouldn't surprise me if we see some Kyrie.

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.399
<v Speaker 4>But I think they'll come late, like there'll there'll there

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 4>will be an announcement and and and they'll come late.

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.359
<v Speaker 1>So if you have an idea of where you think

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:46.120
<v Speaker 1>KD Kyrie end up, would you then just place I

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>guess back back in backing into it and just place

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 1>future future bets on you know, futures bets on teams.

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 4>That's what I would recommend, because I mean the other

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.800
<v Speaker 4>thing too that you're dealing with there is similar to

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 4>the NBA draft, where I mean, if you want to

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 4>lay a big chunk of money on something like that,

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 4>decent chance they're not taking your bet, right, So I

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't wait if you have some credible information on.

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Where one or both may go.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 4>The futures market is a little better there, and again

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 4>maybe not even the the championship futures, but you know,

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 4>look into division if win totals come out, you know

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 4>in time for that, you know that that's in my opinion,

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 4>one of I know it's not the lottery ticket that

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people like, right, but that's that's one

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 4>that that you know a little more certainty around that,

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 4>a little better probability of actually hitting that bet.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Final question, I guess, as you said, if you have

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>more definitive information, then you know, maybe you can go

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>ahead and place a bed on X, Y or z

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>because you know something that others don't know. How do

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>books from your perspective, keep it keep track on? You

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:59.720
<v Speaker 1>know who they can limit as a as a better

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like you know, can woj bet, can Sham's bet? Can

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Jerry West bet? You know what? What where are we

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>at in terms of the murkiness of I know Calvin

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Ridley can't bet, he cannot anyone, but but like, where's

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the line here?

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:24.840
<v Speaker 4>So, from from my understanding, the leagues are submitting names

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 4>at this point.

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:28.839
<v Speaker 3>Now again, don't don't quote me on.

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:33.240
<v Speaker 1>This because as you're live on the broadcast.

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 4>If it hasn't happened yet, it's going to start happening. There,

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 4>there's gonna be names and and you know, the the

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 4>onus in the past has just always been on like

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 4>the teams, the leagues, right, and the sports books were

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 4>doing a favor, you know that, like the Calvin Ridley thing.

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Like they basically said, hey, like sure, we'll take your bet,

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 4>but like we gotta go notify the NFL of this, right,

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 4>Like all these leagues are getting money from these sports books.

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 4>They're partnered with the sports books, right, So I mean

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 4>they don't want that, like they these both sides want

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:16.399
<v Speaker 4>this to be a nice, clean, uh trustworthy, credible partnership here, right,

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 4>They don't want this drama. So it's you know, it's

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 4>growing into a partnership here of hey, here's here's you know,

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 4>names do not take these or on the sportsbook side,

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 4>if somebody slips in, yeah, Jerry West slips in and

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 4>makes a bet, they might call the NBA and say, hey,

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 4>what's up here, like, you know, should should we take this?

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Should?

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they can always cancel a bet after it's made, right,

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:43.240
<v Speaker 4>So it's it is it's getting to a point where

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.239
<v Speaker 4>where the two sides are really going to start working

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 4>together and and they have to because you know, you

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 4>you there's already enough skepticism around, you know, sports betting

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 4>and just nervousness around or what is this doing to

0:50:56.560 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 4>the to the integrity of the game, right, And.

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Neither side wants that.

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Neither side wants these questions, So it will it's going

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 4>to continue just growing into this nice shared partnership of hey,

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 4>don't let this person bet Okay, okay.

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, awesome stuff, Matt, Thank you so much for joining us, sir.

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>We'll have to do it later on this season when

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie ends up somewhere and Katie either ends up somewhere

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>or he doesn't.

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, my pleasure.

0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Trist I had one for you. I think I saw

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:31.880
<v Speaker 4>you liked my Toronto Raptors. Christian Kloka, Oh.

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>My god, that's a great pickup. He is right, He's

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>exactly what Massi wants. Massi likes international players. He likes

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:43.600
<v Speaker 1>players who are a long and athletic who can switch

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 1>on defense. Christian coloco I pegged Arizona as being one

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of the surprise teams of this year before they even

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:54.359
<v Speaker 1>played a regular season game because of what you know

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing from the coaching staff coming from Gonzaga and

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:00.319
<v Speaker 1>some of these other guys. So I watched a lot

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.919
<v Speaker 1>of Christian Cloaco and I was impressed by him. He's

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 1>he's an athletic freak. I think that was a very

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>underrated such a Toronto pick, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't have to give up OG andob to

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 1>us in order to get what you wanted.

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm really happy we did. I'm really happy. I love

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 3>O G.

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 4>But I mean that that was a big hole on

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.000
<v Speaker 4>the Raptors roster. We didn't have that big kind of

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:24.319
<v Speaker 4>banger to play at center. And funny enough, I'm with

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 4>some bachelor party here for the weekend and a bunch

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 4>of Raptors fanned around fans around me. Here, there's people

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 4>here who are more excited about the Ron Harper Junior signing.

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 4>That's a big one too, So like they're they're they're

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 4>going wild out there about Ron Harper Junior. And I'm

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 4>in here at saying I don't not that I don't

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 4>like Ron Harper JUNR. But I'm the one, like I'm

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:49.399
<v Speaker 4>the quiet voice here saying, hey, Christian Cloaco, I think

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.880
<v Speaker 4>is gonna gonna do sometthing't.

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Sleep, do not sleep. He's gonna he might start at five.

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:56.880
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you as much as I like what

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.520
<v Speaker 4>precious kind of broad he's He's a little undersized, you know.

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, at least you have someone who can bang with

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Joel Embid.

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Now that's what they need.

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Precious to chew is cute and all against the Warriors,

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:12.719
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes you need that defensive versatility against guys like

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jojo, against guys like you know, the Lopez,

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Any Lopez and.

0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Exactly he's great to throw on Yannis who you know. Sure,

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 4>go ahead, Darren to shoot shoot the three, you know,

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 4>but that length to put on him. Yeah, absolutely, I'm

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 4>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tris, Go Raptors, Go Raptors. Have a great one. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor party. We will talk to you soon, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much Chris for talk.

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