WEBVTT - Fat Joe 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.960 R and B money. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:06.120 We are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:16.040 Take Malachi. We are the authority on R and B 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.800 Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine. This the 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.279 all N B money buck eyes Yeah, real R and B. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:32.720 The authority told them the ship. Well all things R 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.120 and B fighties and gentlemen. Today we have a guy 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:42.800 my friends. Uh, it's in his blood, in his blood, 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:47.839 that sen his blood. Every every birthday, every birthday. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.960 I fight time when you can we wind the time 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:58.280 because hello, Sally's that's. 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.000 Why fight the time when you you can readwind? 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.080 Why look brand new? 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:09.399 Bro? Let me say something every every time I've before, now, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.319 before we've gotten into business together, every time I've ever 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.960 seen you and met you, it's always been about inclusion. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:21.080 It's always been about putting your arms around and making 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.600 sure that everybody feels welcome, that you are giving the 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.640 greetings and giving the love. And I've never seen anything different. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.000 That's just who I am, you know what I'm saying. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.920 So I'm I'm I like being happy and I want 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.440 to make sure my people happy. Yeah, And so that's 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.240 what it's all about. And so the days of you know, 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.520 we can talk about a lot of shit. We going 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:49.360 there now off rip. I never liked the major label 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:53.200 record companies. I never liked how they did our artists 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:57.600 from the past. I remember they used to they used 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.320 to put Old School at Noon tours together and they 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.600 have guys twenty two, twenty one, twenty three on tour 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.480 calling them old School at Noon. So if you get 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.519 dropped off a major label, they automatically call you old 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.080 School at Noon. But you're only twenty three. Yeah, you know, 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:14.840 you got these guys and I don't want to say 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.520 their names because really they're really legendary to me, but 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.040 they would have them on Old School at Noon tours 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.600 and shit like that. So I made a note of it. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.000 I say, yo, listen, they gonna do me the same way. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.000 So I got to make sure to diversify and make 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.560 sure I get to it. And I love seeing my 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.160 fellow artists look good like you look good. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:36.400 You know. 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:38.880 I was in Beverly Hill's and you know, I'm good 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.960 friends with Johnny Gill and he pulled up in the 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:46.640 boys boy yard back. I was like, you know, I 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.320 want all my guys looking good, making money getting there. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.400 That's what it's all about for me. It's never been 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.280 about just me. You know when the kid plays, he'd 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.400 be like, my boy, my boy never been like that 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:01.480 with me. Had been about everybody eating. Inclusion is all 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:02.520 all I'm about. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:07.880 Bro, You've navigated thirty plus successful. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.840 Years in this shit pretty crazy. 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:16.160 Really crazy. It doesn't happen right, and like it's not. 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:21.079 It's not. You're at the thirtieth year and we're we're 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.960 seeing some fall off. No, you know, you're you're you're 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.360 in a thirtieth year looking like Lebron as I would 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.000 like to say, yeah, Lebron and it's twenty first. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.320 You know that's Lebron amazes me. You know, to be 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:37.200 in that shape, still be competitive, but you're in that shape. Yeah, 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.160 I don't want a better shape. Well, you know, God 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.680 is pushing me through it. And so what people got 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.680 to know is that I put my hands in God. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.720 You know, when people try to, you know, say cancel 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.800 me or or start some shit, I don't even worry. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.200 I just know God is going to push me through 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:58.840 because you know where my heart is. Everything, everything's the journey. 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.480 You know, it can't faster for certain people, came slower 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.520 for certain people. But it really is, like Nipsey said, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.320 this this career thing is really a marathon. And so 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.080 it just keep going and keep going, and who knows, 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.840 something leads to something, something leads to something, you know, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.320 and then you know it used to be when we started, 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:21.840 it was about, you know, I used to be with 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:26.000 Biggie Smalls every day recipes b ig twenty seven years 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.279 and we never took pictures because that was considered sucker 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.400 shit at that time, right, And now I take pictures 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.200 of anything, like I'll be sitting parking the car, like, yo, 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.960 take a pic because we got to capture the moment. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.880 But when I came up, it was all about if 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.680 you win the club. You would see Fat Joe. You 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.320 would think, yo, I can't talk to this guy. Yeah, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.799 you know, I got the gangsters around me. I'm standing 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.120 there like, don't look. Because that's what the wave was 0:04:54.320 --> 0:05:01.280 at the time. And so during COVID, everybody stuck home. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.200 They allowed me to turn on the IG Live and 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:08.200 show people my real person nine because they knew lean back, 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.080 they knew the songs, they didn't really know Fat Joe 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.240 the personality. And even at that time when we would 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.160 go do interviews, it was like we had to be 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.680 real guarded. You know, you got the the Wendy Williams, 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.359 the Miss Jones ebro at one time where they're all 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.640 trying to jam you up. You know, no disrespect y'all, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.800 but you know that's where that's where our interviews was. 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.200 So all of us had to put up those little 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.560 invisible bars. So during the COVID it was like, all right, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:44.040 everybody the fuck out anyway, laugh Joe, Joe jokes, play 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.520 the Jones girls, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.200 I'm starting to ship with the Jones girls every every 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.920 day and to try to on to check it to 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.240 everybody like oh shit, I ain't No. Fat Joe was 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:02.120 like this. But and so you never know where this 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.800 journey gonna take you because it just opened so many 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.640 different doors, you know what I'm saying. Like I never 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.840 thought when I was hustling on the block, I'd be 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:14.080 selling men's hair grooming products all over the world. But 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:15.520 we're doing it with trapping. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:16.920 Trapped. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:24.000 It's scary out here. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.760 Let's go back there, uh, Fat Joe to the to 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:34.880 the Bronx sho did Little Joe desire to be a 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.159 rapper a mobile in that sense and entertained? 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.400 Let me tell you a story I told a million times, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.520 but I'm gonna tell you I remember being taught. First 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:46.800 of all, it wasn't for young people. There was no Instagram, 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.640 the biggest we could think of with Sanford and Son 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.920 and George Jefferson. We ain't see nobody else that look 0:06:56.120 --> 0:07:00.560 like us. And I'm in the Bronx and I hate 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.440 to tell y'all, but it was like a war zone. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.400 It was like Ukraine. Pronce was fucked up. It wasn't 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.279 no real buildings or nothing, no playgrounds. And I remember 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.559 sitting out there with my boy Louis one day, twelve 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.520 years old, and I was like, Yo, this broke shit. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.440 This ain't for me. He was looking at me like 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.800 what I was like, Yo, bro I'm not gonna be broke, 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.360 you know. And so I always remember that moment where 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.280 it was in my DNA that I knew there was 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.600 more for me out there. I didn't know what it was. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.240 So I was out in the street getting a bunch 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.560 of money, you know. He tried to kill me maybe 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.440 thirty forty times, literally, like the bullet had my name 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:42.600 on it, shooting at Fat Joey. And so my man 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:47.040 Diamond D from d TC stepped to me and said yo, Joe, man, 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.960 you gotta you gotta change your life and they're gonna 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:49.440 kill you out. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.320 Are you rapping at this point? You're not right? But 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:52.920 this is your guys. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.000 You really have to understand. Fat Joe was born. So 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.400 you know the Muslims they go to Saudi Arabia to 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:03.120 go to mech Yeah. I literally there's just just no 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.280 way a line, there's no way to doing it. I 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.400 literally was born in the birth place of hip hop. No, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.320 not on the West Side, not on the East Side, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:16.480 not on this Grandmaster Flash was out my window DJ 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.840 and every day Melle Mail was playing pickup games of basketball. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.760 Ruby d the first Latino I MC, Shot Rock the 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.880 first female MC. They af from a hood, my hood, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.880 like the inception of hip hop. You know, first time 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:35.439 somebody probably broke dance or this. That's my hood, right, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.280 so I'm watching it. So I've been to hip hop 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.439 since I was born. I did everything from MC to 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.960 break dance to graffiti, right, I did the whole culture. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.440 Thing only thing I could never do good was DJ. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.880 It's the only thing I could never DJ. Wright and 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.280 I used to try, but and so it was either 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.120 hustle or hip hop. So my man Diamond d was 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.160 on already Lort and That's was on and Diamond was like, Yo, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:01.839 let's go to the studio. I'll pay Joe. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:02.720 So we went in there. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.840 We made a demo that became my first single, flow Joe, 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.600 that went number one in America, single song. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:10.480 Recorded first, So. 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:14.640 Yeah, it went out the park. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:15.280 That's crazy. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:19.360 It went out the park number one in America. Our cio. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.800 Out the project, not even first out in the project. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.520 I'm still in the project, you know. I moved out 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.000 the projects because I was getting money before I rapped. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:36.280 But I was in the project to about my second album, 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.240 and when it's when I realized, all righty, you you're 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.880 rap star now and they starting to view you a 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.840 little different. So for me, I would have still been 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.559 in the projects right now, you know. But it got 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.360 to where it was a lot of jealousy. It was, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.320 you know, I got up in the project showing them 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.880 I ain't changed. I'm still fat Joe. And then it 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.439 just got to the point where I realized, I was like, damn, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.120 you know, we one day we had a riot in 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.439 the project because of me, right, So I basically I 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.559 used to run the projects like you know, King of Zamonga, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.200 you know what I'm saying. And then I became a rapper, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.480 so now they're seeing me on TV and all that, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.960 so they started to looking at me like I changed. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.760 I went soft. I'm a rapper. I can't punch you 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:23.280 in your face. I can't. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.360 You know, you know I'm aper. 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.880 No, no, no, I'm a rapper. Of course I can't 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.840 punch you in like you know, you know what I'm saying. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:36.880 So it's like it got to that point. And then 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.640 one day we had like half the projects fight half 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.839 the projects because some dude told me, like, Yo, the 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.120 fuck you think you're doing that? I smacked his cheek 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:45.960 off real quick. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:46.960 Bomb. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.199 I didn't even think about it. I left, you know it. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.360 It was just a normal currence to me. I left, 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.199 I came back. Then there was a dude there that 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.280 I grew up with his kindergarten and he was angry 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.400 and I don't even say his name. I said, Yo, Pito, 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.959 what's up? PTOs that he was the name fat Pito, 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.560 Fat Joe, Fatito. We grew up since kindergarten. What you mean, 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:08.360 what's up, nigga? 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:10.320 What's up? 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.280 You snapped? That was my brother in law. You slap, 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.839 and he swung on me and that's not suggested right, 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:25.880 and so swung on me. Miss I almost let him 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.080 get away with it. I almost let him get away 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.880 with it. I backed up. I went in the car. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.559 I never forget I tell you this story, Rich, I 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.640 never forget. My brother full Flex stopped me and said, Yo, Joe, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.000 I know it's speed though, but you know if you 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.920 walk away right now, they ain't gonna respect you like 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.319 that in the hood no more. I said, damn, but 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.160 it's Peto. He said, Yo, bro, it's up to you. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.400 I know it's feet though. He was telling me, like, 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.760 I know you don't want to do nothing to Beto. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.520 You know what I'm saying. Someone in the trunk. I 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.520 pulled out the shots. You remember they used to add 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.080 the yellow shots, the big Michellan shit. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:00.719 Yeah, I know, exact household it. 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.360 I started beating beat though up with the Michelan shit, 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:08.000 and then the whole whoever was jealous of Fat Joe 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.080 Fort Fat Joe that day, whoever was my real brothers 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.160 in the projects Fort dumb So it was half of 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.360 the projects again, I mean, fifty guys a getting like 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:22.000 everybody going up. Brothers was fighting brothers and my brother 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.800 Hard Power. Oh he was fighting my brother Gizmo, who 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.760 started TS. TS went with Gizmo went with the other side. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.640 So it was like all our life we knew each other. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.280 We all had like a big riot because they was 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.880 defending me. They was like, fuck that, Joey, Joey'll brother, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.240 you know what I'm saying. Then the other half it 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:41.280 was a little bit jealous. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.240 We had to we did. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.160 We won for sure, you know what I'm saying. And 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.760 then and then you know, but that taught me like, man, 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.000 you can't really get out of here like that. On Man, 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.640 these guys are seeing you on TV, and so it's 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.840 not your perception of dumb changes a lot of times, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.320 you know, as an artist, people's perception if you change, 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.199 and so you can still be the same person. You 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.959 the same you know, we all kids at heart, but 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.040 they start looking at you different, and so you know, 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.440 you know, that's that's what happens. 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:18.160 Wow, is I'm sure there's a moment. I'm sure there's 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.200 that moment in other moments where it's like you are 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.880 graduating to a place of success on a different side, 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:31.640 but there's this urge to maintain the street credibility, the 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.600 street credibility. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.760 Did that we put it down in this game, like 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.280 in this in this rap game without saying no names, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.840 because I'm cool with a lot of people, not even 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.079 cool brothers, but we we smashed anybody who tried to 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.360 fuck with us, like literally everybody who try to fuck 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:46.679 with us. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:53.000 And this is all yeah, yeah, none of this can 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.520 be used none of all what I'm saying, none of 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.840 this can use against. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.000 It's been so it was like, you gotta understand hip hop. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:12.320 They ain't no PhD, they ain't no bachelorists degree. It's 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.440 like you got a bunch of guys that could rap. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.160 They probably normally wouldn't even have a career on a 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.360 job if they didn't know how to rap. They aunt 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.880 to Rogers, everybody who just came home from jail. Everybody 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.080 think they tough. Everybody did so every now and then 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.520 you gotta like reassure them that this is what happens. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.760 It's interesting for me because me growing up in the 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.640 Bay Area, I always I watched I watched you as 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.520 a kid, and I watched your career and it was 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.960 very parallel to e forties for me. I think on 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.320 the East Coast forty because I know him so well, 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.560 that's my guy, and I'm watching you on the whole 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:55.520 other side of the country. 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.960 I'm like, this is very familiar to me. Yeah, it 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:00.320 is very familiar to me. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.400 Like and it was funny because and even and even 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.600 how it's how it's uh come to life now later 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.800 in your career, businessman, business life. But you guys were 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.560 always independent. You guys always had your wife with you. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.160 It was also it was it was watching a man 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.600 do business right, because we have a lot of little 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.440 boys in this industry. It's very few men who are 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.880 handling their business and who are approaching everything as a man. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:34.160 First, all we asked is men is respect. We're not 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.680 trying to say nobody, We're not trying to disrespect nobody. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.160 This is what this is about. Yeah, So the only 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.440 reason I come to do a podcast, so I do 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.800 my own talk show or whatever the case may be, 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.320 is transparency. Yes, you know, we got people who look 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.920 up to us, whether they're R and B, whether they're rappers, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.760 and they got to hear these type of stories. They 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.400 gotta hear these business moves, they gotta hear how fat 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.520 you'oin fifty are friends now brothers when they was trying 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:01.120 to kill each other. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:01.840 They got here. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.880 I was there, I was going, but not they even 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.680 dwell on that. But I'm just saying they got to 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.200 see the growth so they can know, you know, like 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.480 even Fat Joe, I'm a dreamer, I'm a believer. But 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.440 if somebody does it. You know, I used to go 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.920 to puff Daddy's house and just stare at the walls, 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.240 to the ceilings and the marble and be like, yo, 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.200 we could get ship like this, you know, or someone 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.160 I hear a deal. You know, fifty cent just closed 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.760 this TV show man. We could do that. And so 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.240 I've always looked at everything like I got to see 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.520 it to believe it, and from a lens of not jealousy, 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:46.360 but inspiration. And so that's what's so important about outlets 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.440 like this. It's like we got to share that information 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.920 with the youth. Has somebody broke down to me when 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.320 I was a young kid wilding in the industry and 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.200 all like, yo, bro, this ain't good for business. Somebody, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.880 I really rest of the known out of switch right there. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.320 I would it would have saved me a bunch of 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.760 paying bells, paying rents, you know, you know, I was 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.719 going MTV Awards that that year, not even that all 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.119 them year awards. I had bet for fifty, so I 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.800 have to fly in with fifty guys. I had to 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.520 put fifty guys in fifty old towels. You know, we 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.800 popped in fifty bottles, hundred bottles. You know that's that's 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:30.040 a big purse. You the boss, sit down there. The 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.040 wars real because the last thing you want is to 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.040 get caught off point. So you got to be right 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.600 so that all that ship costs. So it's for the 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.960 the youth to understand. Don't get involved in that. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:44.840 You know what I'm saying. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.080 We get we we we pray to God right. First 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.679 of all, God is everything to meet. God is everything right, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.919 and so we pray to God to get us out 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.880 of these terrible situations. And then once you're there, everybody 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.719 race to see how they how they asshole? You ever 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.240 watched them? How many you want a ward? Shows? You watch? 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.800 And whoever's hot at the time, it's their chance to 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.240 act like an asshole while they getting their ward. It's 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.040 like yeah, yah, yeah, I'm like, yo, bro, just be humble, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.240 be happy, you know. And with R and B, you 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.239 got a lot of complicated, Like you met a lot 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:28.399 of R and B singers that're like mentally complicated, right, Like. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.960 Well, it's just that like with R and B. You know, 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.840 for the most part, R and B is a very 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.480 much solo venture, right, and so it's not like it's 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.359 not like cruise or where you like, where there's an 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.280 accountability system in a sense, right, you always have your 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.119 one guy that's like, hey man, we shouldn't like I 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.240 have my guy right here. It's like that, ain't it. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.440 We need to be on that or we shouldn't do this. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.560 There's a crew, there's a sense of brotherhood, sense of family, 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.520 camaraderie as R and B artists is just. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:18:59.920 Used like everybody for themselves. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:04.440 It is is I equate it to it being we're 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.520 all in high school. It's the one girl that everybody 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.000 likes and everybody's their friend. As soon as one guy 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.560 gets her, he tucks her and says, you better not 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.080 talk to none of these motherfuckers again. 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:15.640 That's what it is. That's what R and B music 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.160 is exactly. I got the girl. So whoever is whoever 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.040 is the top R and B guy? I got the girl? 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.120 Well you talk to you talking in the sense of executives. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:25.240 No, I'm talking in the. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.160 Sense of artists. I'm talking about the artists. You gotta 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.159 think about it like this. We can go back to 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.400 the history of R and B music and point out 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.800 that probably and you know a lot of niggas gonna 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.960 get mad at me about this. Keith Sweat is one 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.000 of the last artists to actually put other R and 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:47.320 B artists on silk and too many raptors that do 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.520 that too, Keith Sweat, But it's more, it's more round. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.720 You're not selfish like baby Face wrote all of Bobby 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.600 Brown's all that ship. You wrote a bunch of shit, yo, Bro. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.920 That's very giving, absolutely, because everybody's like, you know, like, 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.200 oh I got to hit. I'm not giving this to nobody. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:08.280 Give somebody a hit. It's crazy. But so in a sense, 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.000 Keith Sweat definitely put a bunch of them on. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.159 A bunch of people on You want talk. 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.359 About Keith Sweat, you know what I'm saying. Keith Sweat. 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.119 All right, Let's go back to fat yo, when all 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.320 the gangsters was getting money. And it's weird because they 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.920 put them all in jail. They all died. But I 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.080 grew up at a time where you turn the corner, 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.480 it looked like it was bombed up, and then you 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:33.040 bump into ten benzes and beamers and little kids are 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:37.000 playing basketball with big rope chains with plates like you know, 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.000 the dudes is sitting in the corner dapping dan doubt 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.879 like I grew up in a fly time where guys 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.600 was out there stunting crazy like that. That's that's the 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:50.840 time I come from, right and so. But even though 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:55.000 these guys were selling massive drugs, shooting people every day, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:59.440 every time you went into the most notorious guy's car, 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:14.680 when he pressed plate, it was Keith Sweat. It's just 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:23.600 nowhere around. There was nowhere around playing laying drives in 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:28.120 the ship. No, it's a fat ye. That's why you say. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.800 You say, Yo, Joe man, you always get Keith Sweat 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:35.360 at your birthday, fucking right, because my guys somemi ever, 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.080 they know what the is. When he did singing, they're like, yo, 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.159 he got Keith Sweat up in this motherfucker. Like you know, 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.280 Keith Sweat man, I don't. I try to tell him 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:48.280 all the time. I don't think he knows what he 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.439 meant to the gangsters in the hallm in the Bronx 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.040 and around America. You know Keith Sweat, I don't know 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.359 he was singing love ballance, but that was some they 0:21:57.440 --> 0:21:57.679 had that. 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.879