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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium. It's Deuce, it's Tamaraw, it's Evan, it's Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's me, it's Matt full House. Today it's a big

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Speaker 1: day because today's cut day. By four o'clock or so,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots have to get down to fifty three and

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Speaker 1: then they'll announce their practice squad. So it's really what

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Speaker 1: sixty five? Now, how many do you have in sixteen sixteen?

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Speaker 1: So it's sixty nine.

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Speaker 4: So at any moment, someone could just walk in here

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Speaker 4: and cut one of us, right, just send us, not

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Speaker 4: for us, so just the players.

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Speaker 8: Funny you should say that, because I thought there was

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Speaker 8: a chance. Yesterday, as Bill was walking into the studio

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Speaker 8: to do some stuff for All Access, you came out

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Speaker 8: kind of stopped, hey, Paul, and you kept going. I

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Speaker 8: was like, wow, maybe to another one. That's that's good.

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Speaker 1: But yes, cuts are today and they've already started to

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Speaker 3: We have thirteen. We're up to thirteen yes day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they cut two guys yesterday, eleven guys the day before.

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Speaker 3: And you got a couple of the trades. And you're

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Speaker 1: Well we should. Let's let's talk about the Pierre Strong trade. First, Uh,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: I think you reap what you sew at the tackle position,

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Speaker 4: the you know, I mean, I just don't think any

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Speaker 4: We've been saying it for a while. And even with

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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know how it's all to come together.

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Speaker 4: Maybe one of these guys turns out to be a

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Speaker 1: This guy, Tyrone Wheatley, is he the guy that was

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Speaker 4: Shape and I think so he was a tight end.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this guy's just coming into it like he's never

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Speaker 4: Okay, but he's like twenty seven too, he's not Yeah.

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Speaker 8: He's older, but he's never never played, never played it

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Speaker 5: I feel like this goes back to kind of what

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Speaker 5: we were saying like all off season, like I wish

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying the same thing.

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Speaker 3: It is so annoying.

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Speaker 4: That's what I just don't care, is why, Like, I

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Speaker 1: Well, they could have got this guy from the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's one option.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you could have probably spent less on Josh

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Speaker 4: Who was on my top fifty big boards. So I

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Speaker 3: That's a Patriot connection right there, Brett b.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, I heard there's you know, speaking

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Speaker 1: at offers for Nick Folk. That was reported earlier, confirmed

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Speaker 1: later by Jeff Howe. So what what?

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Speaker 4: Nothing? Nothing at all?

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Speaker 1: So so I think everything's on the table right now,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know. It's it's a it's a great

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Speaker 1: Who wrote Baringer won the bearer jobs.

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Speaker 4: Seems to have won the although I never get when

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Speaker 1: Are they trying to imply that, like total, any of

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Speaker 8: We all understand that if these guys get cut, most

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Speaker 8: And I use Bill I thought had a really interesting

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Speaker 8: early and maybe you know, your agent gets a little

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Speaker 8: Maybe no one's interested in they say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 8: he's worth using one of my sixteen spots. But I

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Speaker 1: No, but I think you know, guys that get cut early,

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Speaker 1: I think it is doing them a solid because you

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Speaker 1: oh he's available, you know, I'll pick him up and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the it's like the young guys that they

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Speaker 4: you know they probably would like to keep in house

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Speaker 4: Like Paul said it at four with the onslaught of

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Speaker 8: So ye see again, I'm not like, I'm not I

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Speaker 8: to the pract Like I'm not telling you that that's

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Speaker 1: So what's Strong gone? The running back room is Stevenson, Ezekiel, Elliott, Elliott,

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Speaker 1: We're just gone by first names, Elliott, J. J. Taylor, Harris,

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Speaker 1: David Harris. I knew that.

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Speaker 3: And whatever and whatever time Montgomery.

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Speaker 1: But the willingness to get rid of Strong, can you

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Speaker 1: read into maybe Montgomery is going to come back.

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Speaker 3: I guess what he's been pcting.

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Speaker 4: I just think with Montgomery it's like, can we trust

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Speaker 4: You know, and you'd love to keep some insurance for him.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I was just surprised. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 4: based on not much, I thought Strong was better than

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Speaker 4: Kevin Harris. I didn't think Kevin Harris did too much

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Speaker 4: don't feel like he really was able to produce anything

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Speaker 4: maybe maybe they have some some plans with to at

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Speaker 4: least keep him on ice.

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Speaker 1: For well, you know the way they featured him late

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Speaker 1: in that game. Now you think maybe they were just

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Speaker 1: putting tape out there so that, hey, you know he can.

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Speaker 1: He can.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't great tape.

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Speaker 1: You got a couple good plays, you got finger whacked.

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Speaker 1: He had a couple of plays.

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Speaker 8: Pretend it's made.

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Speaker 3: So I really Bill shot it down with Pierre Strong

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Speaker 3: yesterday when Mike Reasee asked him about the scheme changes

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Speaker 3: and if the different offensive coordinators played a role. But

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Speaker 3: he was an outside zone runner in college, and then

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Speaker 3: they came here. They were trying to do the outside

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Speaker 3: then Bill O'Brien is installing a completely different run system

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Speaker 3: now and just watching Pierre Strong try to read out

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Speaker 3: Everybody here was all about Dewan Jones. And he falls

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Speaker 8: And I want to go back to the development, you

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Speaker 8: And most of those guys that Mike and Evan are

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Speaker 5: Especially when you have a quarterback like Mac Jones who

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Speaker 8: So I just want everybody to be intellectually honest about it, right,

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Speaker 8: No, and I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I think what we learned this summer in practice and

437
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Speaker 3: in the preseason is that he's probably not a starting quarterback,

438
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Speaker 3: which he kind of already knew anyways, at least most

439
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: most people, right. So, I think that the the Joe

440
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Speaker 3: Murrays of the world that told us that we were,

441
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Speaker 3: you know, saying we were lying about a quarterback competition

442
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Speaker 3: in the summer. Here in the preseason, I think we

443
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Speaker 3: can all put that to bed. Yeah, Like Mac Jones

444
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 3: is clearly a better quarterback than Bailey Zappy, but I

445
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Speaker 3: still think Bailey Zappy can be a surfaceable backup. If

446
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Speaker 3: he's playing with the starters and they're crafting the game

447
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 3: plans around him being in the game and the play

448
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Speaker 3: calling and things like that, then I think it would

449
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Speaker 3: look a lot different than it did against Tennis Centon.

450
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Speaker 8: That's what Mike and I were talking about in the

451
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Speaker 8: post game the other night, like, yeah, this was we're

452
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Speaker 8: not sugarcoating it. Zappy was in the bad list, right, Yeah,

453
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Speaker 8: but you know everybody's like, oh, you know, do you

454
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Speaker 8: see now see now the different Like, well, no, because

455
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Speaker 8: I didn't see Mac Jones play with that same cast

456
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Speaker 8: of characters for a whole game and get killed. Like

457
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Speaker 8: I didn't see the production being any different. And even

458
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Speaker 8: on the better days, like the second day in Green Bay,

459
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Speaker 8: you guys are telling me there was some plays that

460
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Speaker 8: you know he got it off, but maybe it wouldn't

461
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Speaker 8: have been the same way. So, like the protection is

462
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Speaker 8: an issue, whether it's the first unit or the third

463
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Speaker 8: unit that he was playing behind the other day. Three times,

464
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Speaker 8: three times, I mean he went, this is not here.

465
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Speaker 8: I'm not here to defend Bailey Zappy. He didn't play well.

466
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Speaker 8: I just think to use that as your proof. I

467
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Speaker 8: haven't seen Mac play at all. It's preseason. He played

468
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Speaker 8: three series.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just the offensive line for either quarterback is going

470
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Speaker 3: to be a problem. But it's been a trickle down effect.

471
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Speaker 3: Like we're talking about how their injuries on the starting

472
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Speaker 3: offensive line and Mac is working with Mafi and so

473
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Speaker 3: and those players in the lineup, Well, imagine what it's

474
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Speaker 3: doing to the twos and the threes if like you're

475
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Speaker 3: already elevating those guys, you know, now we're really talking

476
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Speaker 3: about like Micah Vanderpool getting pulled off of what was

477
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Speaker 3: the XFL or something like that, and now he's, you know,

478
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Speaker 3: starting in front of Bailey's Appy in a preseason game.

479
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Speaker 3: So I think it's added even maybe potentially an even

480
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Speaker 3: bigger effect. I'm gonna effect on the guys that Zappi

481
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Speaker 3: has been working with, even than the guys that Mac

482
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Speaker 3: was has been working with. And I just when you

483
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Speaker 3: talk about building depth, you know, to Tamara's point about

484
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Speaker 3: like going out and buying a brand name and free

485
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Speaker 3: agency guys like Riley Reef and Connor McDermott and City

486
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Speaker 3: So changing that's good depth. Those were their options to

487
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Speaker 3: start at right tackle week one from the KICKO that right,

488
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Speaker 3: that's not those guys should have been. Okay, we have

489
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Speaker 3: you know, Orlando Brown, we have Juwan Taylor and Trent Brown.

490
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Speaker 3: But Riley Reef we brought him in as our sixth

491
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Speaker 3: offensive lineman and if we had an injury, then he

492
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Speaker 3: can play guard, he can play tackle, and he can

493
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Speaker 3: play four different spots. And that's good depth. That's your

494
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Speaker 3: Ted Carris right of this year's group. And then you

495
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Speaker 3: go back down the line of you know, Connor McDermott.

496
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Speaker 3: You can still draft City So in the fourth round

497
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Speaker 3: and develop him at tackle, but now he's your third

498
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Speaker 3: or fourth tackle on the depth chart instead of your

499
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Speaker 3: second tackle on the depth chart. So their their problem

500
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Speaker 3: at tackle is not depth. They they've had this summer.

501
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Speaker 3: They don't have a frontline guy outside of maybe Trent Brown.

502
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Speaker 3: And I think we're still all skeptical of what Trent

503
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Speaker 3: Brown is going to bring to the table too.

504
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Speaker 8: And that's the slot thing, you know, with Tamara's plan

505
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Speaker 8: of getting so now you have let's just say Mike

506
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Speaker 8: mclinchy Okay.

507
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Speaker 5: I would have loved that.

508
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Speaker 8: So now you have him, and you're gonna have him

509
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Speaker 8: probably for the next three years if you would sign

510
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Speaker 8: him to a free agent deal, right, and then when

511
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Speaker 8: you draft all these guys like Evan just explained, they're

512
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Speaker 8: there to take Trent brown spot next year when he's gone.

513
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Speaker 8: That's how it's supposed to work. Instead, they just decided, well,

514
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Speaker 8: we'll figure it out on the goat. Now I agree

515
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Speaker 8: with you, Fred, I think it's going to be a

516
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Speaker 8: win you. I wrote that this morning, and I know

517
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Speaker 8: I'm not the only one. A lot of people have

518
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 8: been writing about a when you at tackle, I think

519
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Speaker 8: he'll be fine if he plays tackle. He ain't ready

520
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Speaker 8: to play tackle in Week one. He hasn't done anything

521
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Speaker 8: all off season. Yeah, right, So that's not an ideal

522
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Speaker 8: situation either. In addition to the fact that you're probably

523
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Speaker 8: going to have a guy making his debut at guard

524
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Speaker 8: next to him.

525
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Speaker 1: And against a team against the Eagles that.

526
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Speaker 3: I have to worry about them because they don't have

527
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Speaker 3: much of a defensive line. It's not even the just

528
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Speaker 3: the Eagles. You're the first four month, first month of

529
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Speaker 3: the season, you might be going up against the four

530
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Speaker 3: best fronts in football. You have the Eagles, you have

531
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Speaker 3: the Dolphins, you have the Jets, and you have the Cowboys. Yeah,

532
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: I heard someone who's going to block Micah Parsons in

533
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: this group soround battle. I think on ninety eight five

534
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: was talking about this yesterday, and you know a lot

535
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Speaker 3: of people have made a big deal. Well, all the

536
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 3: quarterbacks they have to face, the pass rushes they have

537
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Speaker 3: to go against this year are pretty formidable.

538
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Speaker 1: You better have a blitz killer ready to go.

539
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Speaker 5: I'm just like confused. I'm like, again, both at this

540
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Speaker 5: position and wide receiver, It's like, why are we just

541
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Speaker 5: getting a bunch of depth but not actually like a

542
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Speaker 5: guy like.

543
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Speaker 3: The guys at least a wide receiver. They have NFL players, right,

544
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Speaker 3: they don't have NFL tackles like they know. That's the

545
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 3: biggest thing. Is like, that's why I'm second guess to

546
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: tackle approach much more than the receiver approach because they

547
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: have three Juju, Parker and Borne are three NFL caliber

548
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: receivers that would be on any roster across the league.

549
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that Connor McDermott is on a roster right.

550
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Speaker 8: Riley Reef is the only quote unquote NFL player out

551
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 8: of that group, and he might just be done. He

552
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Speaker 8: might just be done. I mean, he was on Cincinnati

553
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 8: in Chicago the last two years, couldn't stay to at

554
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 8: either one, and both had among the worst offensive lines

555
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 8: in football in those particular.

556
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Speaker 1: That's the line. Did Calvin Munson earn himself a job

557
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: on this team?

558
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 8: Yeah? I mean I don't know if he has. We'll see.

559
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 8: I mean, I we talked about Mac Wilson last week.

560
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 8: The three of us all kind of agreed, yeah, that

561
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 8: he was a little shaky. I thought Munson was active,

562
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Speaker 8: but as a linebacker, you know, No, I'm wondering as

563
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Speaker 8: a special teamer, and I think they were sort of

564
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 8: looking at those couples.

565
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Speaker 1: Well, what about in Wilson. I mean, Wilson's role was

566
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: spot played depending on the situation. Could he do that?

567
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 8: I don't think so.

568
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 9: No.

569
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 8: I think he's more of a traditional like kind of Yeah.

570
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: I just think that was a preseason game.

571
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Speaker 8: He played the way back up kind of like Tavia

572
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 8: back up kind of thing. I don't think he's a

573
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 8: like I don't think. I mean, listen, I'm not amos

574
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 8: Alonzo Stack. I don't look at him as a sub

575
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 8: a sub option.

576
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: No, And I mean he's just one of those bets.

577
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: He's been around, He's kicked back and forth between here

578
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 4: and Miami and practice squads. Like I don't, I don't

579
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: think you need to save a roster spot for him.

580
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he's one you could just That's.

581
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: My thing with Calvin Bunson's of the world is like there.

582
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: So they cut DeMarcus Mitchell and Jordan Heally a couple

583
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, and I took that as a sign

584
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: that maybe they're not going to carry as many of

585
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: these kicking game aces as they do normally. So you're

586
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: obviously gonna have Slater and I think Brendan Schooler is

587
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: going to make the team too. But other than those

588
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: two guys, unless you want to count like a Chris

589
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: Board or somebody like that, Yeah.

590
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 8: I would count board and say that's three that I

591
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 8: would think most people agree on.

592
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 6: Yah.

593
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 8: Is there a fourth? I don't know.

594
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: I don't.

595
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: I don't think there should be a fourth, is my point.

596
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: And hopefully that them cutting to Marcus Mitchell and Helig

597
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: was a sign that they are looking at it and

598
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 3: saying can't really return kickoffs anymore? And you know, we're

599
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: all the things that we've talked about, with special teams

600
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: getting legislated out and fewer and fewer special team snaps,

601
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: you hope that maybe they're going to adjust the roster

602
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: construction accordingly.

603
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 8: Okay, I think the two young cornerbacks Bolden in speed

604
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 8: will probably you know in that conversation.

605
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: But are we still looking at three tight ends because

606
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: Sicki's back, Henry's getting better. I don't know, and I.

607
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 8: Don't know for the you know today, when we find out,

608
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Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if it's just two with the

609
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 8: intention of adding somebody else. Now, there are some tight ends,

610
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Speaker 8: you know. Albert Oh got released today by Debt. He's

611
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 8: a guy. He's a guy that I love now for

612
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 8: computerly selfish reasons. I'm praying that they don't because I

613
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 8: don't want to have to spell that name all the time.

614
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Speaker 8: I know I'll butcher it just Albert. Yeah, I mean

615
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 8: I can't really write that though.

616
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: That's what we're going to write official stands.

617
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Speaker 8: My guest is somebody you know who's uh, they'll have

618
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 8: three tight ends. I just don't know exactly how they'll

619
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Speaker 8: do it. Well, they cut socle and Ferkser and try

620
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 8: to get one or two of them on the practice squad.

621
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Speaker 8: Will they add a guy, you know off a wave?

622
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 8: I mean, Albert oh is pretty athletic. I don't know

623
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 8: if he fits, like in my mind what they need

624
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 8: and they need a more physical sort of well.

625
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: So I looked it up as to some of his

626
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: like where he played in Denver and stuff, and he

627
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: played all in line like he's not. I looked at

628
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: him as more of like a Kasiki type that was

629
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: this really good athlete that could play in the passing game.

630
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: But I never really thought of him as like an

631
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: inline blocker. And is he According to PFF he had

632
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: a decent grade in terms of blocking. But I haven't

633
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: watched this, that's to my guest. I haven't watched his

634
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: tape to know if like that was, you know, stuff

635
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: more detached from the formation where he's just kind of

636
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: blocking corners and see deer, if he was really going

637
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: up against edge defenders and kicking those guys out and

638
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: stuff like that. So I don't know, But I never

639
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: thought of him in college in terms of a draft

640
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: prospect as a blocking tight end. I thought of him

641
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: as a guy that runs like a four to four

642
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: at two hundred and fifty pair.

643
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Speaker 8: That's how I have always thought of him, even that

644
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 8: game I think we played. Do we play Denver in

645
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 8: the I think we played Denver in the twenty twenty

646
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 8: the Pandemic You. I don't know why the name pandat.

647
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 8: I think he was a rookie in that game, and

648
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 8: he had a couple of chances to make plays and

649
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 8: dropped a couple.

650
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: Of He's also been injured.

651
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 8: Has he had a monster preseason game the other day

652
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 8: the other day and I thought to myself, he must

653
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Speaker 8: be on the roster. My media thought was like, yeah,

654
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Speaker 8: I think he had like over one hundred yards receiving

655
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Speaker 8: on like eight or nine catches in a preseason game.

656
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Speaker 8: So what my immediate thought was he was not long

657
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Speaker 8: for Denver.

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Speaker 3: You know they have a good depth tight end.

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Speaker 1: The way Bill was talking about Booty, is he on

660
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Speaker 1: the team or is he just pumping him up for

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Speaker 1: me be a trade.

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Speaker 4: I think he's on the team me too.

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Speaker 5: Did you see that he was like getting stuff mounted

664
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Speaker 5: in his apartment. Everyone was like, Oh, I guess he's sick.

665
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Speaker 4: Oh he's buying he's playing buying green ban I guess.

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Speaker 8: That's exactly myself.

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Speaker 3: I think he's on the team.

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Speaker 8: I think I think he'll stay, but I don't think

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Speaker 8: he should be buying Green.

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Speaker 1: B and cunning him. Does he stay as a wide

671
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Speaker 1: receiver or developmental quarterback on the practice squad?

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Speaker 3: Practice squad?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think practice squad. I don't think he's a

674
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Speaker 4: receiver though I think that's I don't.

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Speaker 8: Think he I mean, I have absolutely no idea what

676
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Speaker 8: they're going to do with him. I think quarterback, but

677
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Speaker 8: I don't know roster, practice squad. I don't know what

678
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Speaker 8: they're planning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been a good sport about it. But if

680
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Speaker 3: I was only Cunningham, I would be a little irked

681
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Speaker 3: by how I was used in the in the preseason,

682
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Speaker 3: you know. I I'm sure he probably would have gotten

683
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Speaker 3: a series in that Green Bay game if the game

684
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Speaker 3: had had continued. But he's a quarterback, like he's not

685
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Speaker 3: a receiver. And if he was able to play quarterback

686
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Speaker 3: the entire preseason and have all that film at quarterback,

687
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Speaker 3: I think it changes the trajectory for him, Like he

688
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Speaker 3: either is on this team or he's probably claimed by

689
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Speaker 3: another team. If he played quarterback the whole time.

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Speaker 1: All right, and I didn't even get into the secondary,

691
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Speaker 1: but I think I'm feeling still pretty good about the secondary.

692
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Speaker 8: I think, well, I feel pretty good about the safeties.

693
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Speaker 8: I'm not sure about the corners. But it is a

694
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Speaker 8: good sign that Jonathan Jones is back out practicing, which

695
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Speaker 8: is in line with what Karen Grigian reported about a

696
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Speaker 8: week ago that he was projected to be ready to

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Speaker 8: go week one. So's that to me is huge. But

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Speaker 8: I think there's still the uncertainty with Jack Jones and

699
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Speaker 8: now a lot of people. I don't know how you

700
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Speaker 8: guys feel, Mike Tamara and Evan. Does that mean anything

701
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Speaker 8: for Sean Wade? You know, has he made any kind

702
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Speaker 8: of a push. I thought he initially was having a

703
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Speaker 8: pretty solid camp. I didn't like the way he played

704
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Speaker 8: in the games as much, you know, so I don't

705
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Speaker 8: know if there's a spot for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just looking at Jack Jones, remember Brandon Browner played

707
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Speaker 3: him in the in the last preseason game because he's

708
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Speaker 3: suspended for the first four games of the year. Watching

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Speaker 3: Jack Jones out there in Tennessee gave me.

710
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Speaker 8: I said that to a stunt how many it's like

711
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Speaker 8: they they know something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he also did not play, Well.

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Speaker 8: No, he didn't play. So he played like a guy

714
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Speaker 8: who was irritated that he was on the field.

715
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Speaker 3: Yeah, or had something in his mind that wasn't football,

716
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Speaker 3: you know. And I I wrote in game mobs for Raison,

717
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Speaker 3: like Jack Jones a better football player than that, Like

718
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Speaker 3: he should not be getting dusted by third and fourth

719
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Speaker 3: string practice squad receivers and stuff like that, like he's he's.

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Speaker 8: Better than I would just throw out there. And you know,

721
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Speaker 8: sometimes I'm guilty of making too much of it. But

722
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Speaker 8: when you start to see group think developing, and I

723
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Speaker 8: read that a lot over the weekend and into like Monday,

724
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Speaker 8: various roster projections with Sean Wade Judu Jack Jones's uncertainty. Now,

725
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Speaker 8: about a week and a half ago, I was on

726
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Speaker 8: ninety eight five with Beatle and and Hardy and I meant,

727
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Speaker 8: Jack Jones is uncertainty and they interrupted, what do you

728
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 8: mean uncertainty? And I was like, well, I don't know

729
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 8: is he going to be available to play? They all

730
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Speaker 8: just felt like it was a foregone conclusion that he's

731
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Speaker 8: going to be available. Yeah, So now all of a sudden,

732
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Speaker 8: people are writing the uncertainty around Jack Jones, which tells

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Speaker 8: me that somebody knows something, and you know how that goes.

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Speaker 1: Once one person maybe they were just listening to you.

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Speaker 8: One person says it, and then all of a sudden

736
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Speaker 8: it becomes a thing, and then everybody starts to say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's right. You know, friends, Because I think there's a

738
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Speaker 8: chance that he might be able to be on the

739
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Speaker 8: team initially, but that when that whatever the hearing is

740
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Speaker 8: is in September. Now it's between week one and two. Yep,

741
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Speaker 8: who knows what's going to come out of that.

742
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Speaker 3: I still think I've been saying all along. I still

743
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: think that the league suspension that day would happen. You

744
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 3: don't have to be guilty in the court of law

745
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: and it gets suspended by the NFL. And the optics

746
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: of what he did, regardless of if Rose Capaccio works

747
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: her magic or not, is not not not going to

748
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Speaker 3: go over well in New York.

749
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Speaker 1: So all right, A five to five pass five hundred

750
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Speaker 1: is the ACE ticket hotline. Web radio at Patriots dot

751
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: com is the email address. Tonight is the Patriots Premier,

752
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: which is the big event for the Community Relations Department,

753
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: the big fundraiser. It's mandatory all the players have to

754
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: be there, and they sit at different tables with people

755
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: who bought tables, and there's like a little stage show.

756
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: I think Zoe's involved, perhaps, I think. So see up there, yeap,

757
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: And they'll announce the Ron Burton Award tonight, the person

758
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: who did the most in the community this year, and

759
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: we'll talk to him, right, yeah, tomorrow, we'll have that

760
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: first one on one with the Ron Burton Award winner tonight.

761
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: So stuff to look forward to tonight.

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Speaker 8: Remember one hundred years ago when we were part of that.

763
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to do the PFW Annual Awards and

764
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Speaker 1: I would get up there one year with Chris Berman

765
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Speaker 1: and we gave out like, you know, if it was

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, we'd give out the nineteen ninety eight awards,

767
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Speaker 1: you know, Defensive Player of the Year, rookie, the whole thing.

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00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: And then Bill said, no, no, yeah, right, that's that's

769
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Speaker 1: last year. We're not doing that anymore.

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Speaker 8: That's not surprising.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we'd have plaques made and we'd give them

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Speaker 1: to the player.

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Speaker 3: No Rookies of the Year, Oh my gosh, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back in the day, No, because me, Fred and

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Speaker 1: Brian one of these.

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Speaker 4: That one I was I was.

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Speaker 8: I was, I was young.

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Speaker 4: My my sister got to go to it one year

779
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Speaker 4: as part of like I might have been through something

780
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 4: I was blogging, but she sat with with your guy

781
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: Josh Boyce and and couldn't get over how much he

782
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: hated sushi, Like he didn't want anything to do with sushi,

783
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: Like that was what he's like.

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Speaker 8: Oh man, John, just a nice kid takeaway.

785
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Speaker 4: That was like sushi? What could have been?

786
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the phones. Uh the East

787
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Speaker 1: ticket utline. Todd's in North Carolina. What's up Todd?

788
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, talking to my seven year old. We were

789
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 10: having a little bit of problem with my dad eighty

790
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 10: seven and being in the hospital stuff. He said, well,

791
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Speaker 10: how do we keep going? I said, hope. I think

792
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 10: that the same thing we got this year. I didn't

793
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 10: feel it last year, but I still have hope for

794
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 10: this team. I can feel like there's some pieces in

795
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 10: place and things are building, and it's giving me hope.

796
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Speaker 10: Even with the old line. They addressed it finally. I

797
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 10: know it took them a while, but they seem to

798
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 10: be going in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: What do you guys think did they address it? Sorry

800
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Speaker 3: about your dad?

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00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I always I always hesitant to to, you know,

802
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 8: conflate real life with sports. But yeah, I mean I

803
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 8: think if you don't have hope, if you're a fan

804
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 8: of any team right now, when you don't have hope

805
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 8: on the eve of the season, I don't know why

806
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 8: you're a fan of just other team, So you should

807
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 8: have hope. But I just would wonder exactly I have hope?

808
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 8: What are the specific I have hope?

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00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: I have hope and hope and one man and one

810
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: man only.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I have I go in back Jones,

812
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: I go into this season with hope but no expectation.

813
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Speaker 3: It's not even mac Jones yourself, Bill O'Brien. Bill O'Brien

814
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: is my only hope.

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Speaker 5: Do you think he can take this offensive line that

816
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 5: he has right now and scheme something up.

817
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he could if as long as it's

818
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: only one spot. If you're telling me that they're going

819
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: to be down multiple guys Week one against Philly, then

820
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say they're gonna get shell ACKed. But if

821
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Speaker 3: it's one spot, I think that they can figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's go to Willem and Phelim. What's up, William?

823
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 6: What's up?

824
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Speaker 11: Fred? How you doing?

825
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 6: All right?

826
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 8: This will be the opposite of hope.

827
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I hear you. So let's pick up what we

828
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 11: left off at. Shall we remember the conversation and then

829
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Speaker 11: Douce charm didn't on it.

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Speaker 4: Too, so that we like to you and Andrews, and

831
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: you were up. You didn't like that.

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Speaker 11: Look, I'm let me be fair and let me be honest. Okay, Look,

833
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 11: I'm not negative. I just see this stuff.

834
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Speaker 6: You know.

835
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Speaker 11: I'm stuff that you're reporting and stuff I listened to you,

836
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 11: I listen to other podcasts. I'm listening to everything. Okay,

837
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 11: It's just I'm just concerned, fellas. You cannot be there's

838
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 11: no way you can't beat until the call and it

839
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 11: just called. I don't have no hope like that. I mean,

840
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 11: let me let me explain it to you real fast. Okay.

841
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 11: So you had he's in the draft, correct?

842
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 4: You had?

843
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 11: You didn't like darn On right, Paris Johnson? Who else

844
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 11: was there? Dwan Jones? You played around with the Jets though,

845
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 11: and you gave Rod Jones to the Steels. Okay, I

846
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 11: like I Look, I'm a fan of our Christian guns dies.

847
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 11: I get it. But you didn't even want to you

848
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 11: didn't want to get to Wine Jones in the fourth round,

849
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 11: but yet you took what cards us kickers. Do you

850
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 11: understand what I'm saying?

851
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: Oh?

852
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 8: Yeah I do. I do, And yeah, I mean I

853
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 8: think that I like, Look.

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Speaker 11: I know, if I went back to forth with y'all

855
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 11: on Friday or Daddy, whatever we're with, y'all need to understand.

856
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 11: You just understand it. From my point, I'm passionate about

857
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 11: this team. I'm tired of Bill's swim. Maybe he just

858
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 11: don't have I like, I just have identity for offense.

859
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 11: He's a defensive group, you know what I mean, hands

860
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 11: down to him, you know what I mean. But maybe

861
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Speaker 11: he just don't he cannot identify offensive talent, you know

862
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 11: what I mean. And it's I know, I just go

863
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 11: back to what I said again, since Tom left, what

864
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 11: you've done lately? What have you done now?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the concerns, I think that's very legit. You know,

866
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Speaker 8: I don't know how you I mean, you can have

867
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Speaker 8: hope and still be concerned. I mean, I don't think

868
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 8: those two things are mutually exclusive. And I understand where

869
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 8: both of the last two callers are coming from. Just

870
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 8: you can't possibly look at this team and just say, well,

871
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 8: they got everything all set, you know, it's not going

872
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 8: to worry about can't Yeah, okay, y'all.

873
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Take care, all right, thanks. You know, I saw that

874
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: movie Oppenheimer, and it kind of reminds me of that.

875
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: You know, like they're building this weapon that's never been

876
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: used before, and the first time they use it will

877
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: be the first time and no one really knew what

878
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: was going to happen. That's kind of the way it

879
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: is with this offense. You know, it'll be kind of

880
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: the first time with Bill O'Brien, and you know, the

881
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: way it's constituted, we have no idea. There's really nothing

882
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: to go on about like how they're going to do.

883
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 8: And I could absolutely envision in sort of a you know,

884
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 8: a reasonable period early, you know, in the first half

885
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 8: of the season where they're doing a good job of

886
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 8: identifying weaknesses for the opponent and attacking them and having

887
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 8: good schemes and good, good sequences, and then eventually the

888
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 8: talent wins out and you figure out And I think

889
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 8: that that's largely what we saw two years ago, where

890
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 8: the offense was okay and then eventually, like you sort

891
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 8: of run out of ways to have Jacoby Myers, throw

892
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 8: a pass to somebody and set a pick for this

893
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 8: guy and figure out, how can we consider Like I

894
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 8: thought we even saw signs of it, albeit with secondary personnel.

895
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 8: How many slants have they they thrown in this preseason

896
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 8: and then by the third quarter they would just slam

897
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 8: in the crap out of every slant against Tennessee. Now,

898
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 8: I get it's a preseason game. It's not a traditional

899
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 8: game plan. You're just running. But I think that they

900
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 8: I think their game plans are going to involve our pos,

901
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 8: slants off of those, and then some deep shots, yeah,

902
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 8: you know, mixed in. I think r Po is a

903
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 8: tough on offensive lineman, so your offensive line is struggling

904
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 8: a little bit to protect. I don't think that's a

905
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 8: good way to help them. So I think they'll have

906
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 8: some success when they're with the newness of what they're doing.

907
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 8: Then the question will be how do they sustain it?

908
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: Do you think? I was just thinking to Fret's point

909
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 4: is this is the least you've ever seen, not just mac Jones,

910
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: but like a starting offense and start like I feel

911
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: like of the preseasons.

912
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 8: I don't want to I don't want to say the

913
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 8: two thousand and eight, Brady didn't take a single snap

914
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 8: the entire preseason and we all know what happened ten

915
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 8: minutes into the.

916
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: Season, but the rest of the guys did.

917
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, but they didn't. You didn't get to see the

918
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 8: first offense is duces point.

919
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

920
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 4: And what was the questioning like with Bill on that,

921
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: Like does he just be like, well, we're just doing

922
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 4: what's best of the team, Like, you know, why aren't

923
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: you playing Tom at all?

924
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 8: This year he had I don't remember specifically, but I mean, yeah,

925
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 8: I know he dealing with an injury in that in

926
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 8: that summer. This year, I wonder if the conventional thought

927
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 8: that a lot of us have been using is like

928
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 8: he didn't want he didn't feel like comfortable enough to

929
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 8: put him out there based on the personnel that was

930
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 8: that was going to be with them. And I think

931
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 8: that's worrisome, you know, the last the last two years.

932
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 8: You know, I'll use last year because rookie year isn't fair.

933
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 8: Last year he played in that third preseason game significantly,

934
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 8: and and and.

935
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: They didn't do well, and he stayed out a little longer,

936
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: so they probably wanted it.

937
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 8: So it's not like, well, Bill doesn't believe in playing

938
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 8: his front line guys in the third preseason and we

939
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 8: just saw him do it last.

940
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: Year, right, Well, what changes was it? Injury? Was it?

941
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: You felt like, you know, last year it was just

942
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: a tonnage issue with all the joints practices in preseason

943
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 4: games and then traveling to Miami early, and we're trying

944
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: to think that.

945
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 8: I think he didn't. I think he took some hits

946
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 8: in that in that Green Bay game, and I think

947
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 8: he didn't want to risk it.

948
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: It's a new offense. He got three rives in a

949
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 4: preseason game and those and albeit those two joint practices,

950
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 4: which was a high volume of stuff, but still it's

951
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: not within the flow of the game, and you know,

952
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: like it's hard to establish kind of a real rhythm.

953
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: It's you know, it'll be different when you have a

954
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: red jersey on in practice. Oh yeah, it changes your mindset.

955
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: They can't hit me, no, and I don't have to

956
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: worry about that.

957
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: There were so many times too in that Green Bay

958
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 4: practice where you know, we're talking about passes on both

959
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 4: sides where you see the defensive end get by and

960
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 4: tap the quarterback on the butt and kind of celebrate

961
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: and then the past comes out and it's beautiful and

962
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 4: everyone's like, oh my god, you know, both sides, it's just.

963
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 8: And what the ptice setting sort of clouds a little bit.

964
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 8: Is even when you want to say, like even if

965
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 8: you're watching it closely and you're doing it quote unquote right,

966
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 8: and you're saying, okay, that fifty yard pass to Parker,

967
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 8: that wouldn't have happened. That was a sack. Okay, But

968
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 8: then you go to the next play and they just

969
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 8: run the next play, but you don't say the next

970
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 8: play was third and nineteen right right, because he got

971
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 8: sacked on second and tent, you know what I mean.

972
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 4: So even thensequences for correct and build on it, you

973
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: don't really have the feeling of or even to the

974
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: other flip side, hey we did hit that play. It's

975
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 4: first and ten on the twelve now and we're trying

976
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: to score and we feel good and we got to momentum.

977
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: It's now we're just right back at the thirty again

978
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: and we're you know, trying to run our plays. So

979
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what to expect. I mean,

980
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: I think you try to hide in that excitement a

981
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: little bit. If you don't know what to expect. But

982
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: I think I think the hard part isn't Evan, I

983
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: mean laid it all out. Was we just we spent

984
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 4: so much time this off season talking about the tackles,

985
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 4: and it's and that's exactly what has happened. And so

986
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: it's it's hard to you know, fake enthusiasm when the

987
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: one part you thought was going to be the weakness

988
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: has kind of turning out to be the weakness.

989
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, excitement turns to anxiousness. You know, you're

990
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 1: more anxious to.

991
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: That defensive line coming in. And I mean, and I

992
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 4: agree with the general point that you know, maybe cole

993
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: Strange's is going to be okay this week, and maybe

994
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: Michael and whenus okay, and I think you know, maybe

995
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: they have four of them, but they're like, as you

996
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: pointed out, many times, they missed the whole summer, Like

997
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 4: how can you feel great about you ready to hop

998
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: in against Fletcher Cox and company? Like it's you know,

999
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 4: especially when those are guys that even if Cole Strain

1000
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: and those guys were here the whole time of the summer,

1001
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 4: I beat.

1002
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 8: And the other thing too, is I don't look at

1003
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 8: those two guys the same when you has proven that

1004
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 8: he is rock solid, Strange hasn't. You know, we're hoping

1005
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 8: Strange takes the year two.

1006
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: Jump, especially with the power of like Jalen Carter, Flescher

1007
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: Cox like those guys. That's what troubles him. And you know,

1008
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 4: coming off a knee injury kind of hasn't really had

1009
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: any game action and he got hurt the first day

1010
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 4: of pads.

1011
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 8: We're keeping Freddie away hungry. Just to add to you know,

1012
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 8: some of the stuff that we've been hearing in terms

1013
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 8: of the roster construction wide receiver, people still continue to

1014
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 8: sort of throw out there that teams are interested in

1015
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 8: Kendrick Bourne. I don't know if you've seen any of

1016
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 8: this stuff, and I think Jeff Howe another warm day,

1017
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 8: well he confirmed that and also said that the Patriots,

1018
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 8: you know, haven't really been interested in that, which to

1019
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 8: me would make sense. I think Born figures to be

1020
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 8: a part of you know, it's born in Parker and

1021
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 8: to a lesser extent, Juju, because we haven't seen much

1022
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 8: from Juju, and I worry about that knee. But is

1023
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 8: it to Mario Douglas, Taekwon Thornton, does he open on

1024
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 8: I r like, is he on the team today but

1025
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 8: has to get placed on IR tomorrow? Like, I don't know,

1026
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 8: I have no idea what to expect from him about.

1027
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 8: How do you guys feel about the wide receiver room?

1028
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: The same kind of thing? I mean, it's it's you know,

1029
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: there are some new pieces, like I kind of feel

1030
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: okay with it, and juju, I really do. I mean,

1031
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: I guess I'm more worried about the other stuff right now.

1032
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: I feel good about it.

1033
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 8: It's prob'ly more worried about the offensive line, but I

1034
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 8: don't feel good about it.

1035
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I feel good about his targets. I think, I think

1036
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: it's okay. And I'm including the Mario Douglas in that,

1037
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: you know, and I think it's one of the ones

1038
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: I feel the best about. Yeah, I think it's gonna

1039
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: be okay. But he's gonna need a little bit of time,

1040
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: you know.

1041
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: Well that's Douglas. It's like he's one of the only

1042
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 4: ones you feel like could get could a theoretically get open.

1043
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna need that binky.

1044
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, well he's not going to be your binkie.

1045
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1046
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 8: I mean, that's asking way too much of a kid.

1047
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean kids done well in the past. I

1048
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: have hopes. I have hope.

1049
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 8: Yes, the fifth overall pick of the draft, like Jamar

1050
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 8: Chase has done well in the past. I hope Julian

1051
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 8: Edelman it wasn't a binkie his first couple of years.

1052
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 12: Uh.

1053
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to Bill. Let's hear what Bill's saying.

1054
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 13: We'll let you know one if don't want anything happens.

1055
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 13: We're a few balls in here.

1056
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 8: Are guys gonna practice today? If don't anticipate them making

1057
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 8: the team start, are gonna tell them before practice?

1058
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 6: How was that gonna work?

1059
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, there's multiple players in multiple different situations and combinations.

1060
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 6: So mm hmm.

1061
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 14: Go to your your competition few games said, very competive.

1062
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 14: You trust the chance to hope her to start the season.

1063
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 15: Everybody, it's on our team, I trust, Otherwise it wouldn't

1064
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 15: be on.

1065
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 6: Our team's best nine.

1066
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 15: Kings Comble.

1067
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, well again, whatever the role is. If the players

1068
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 13: on our team, then it's because we're comfortable with them doing.

1069
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 13: If we aren't, then I wish you find somebody else.

1070
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 8: After releasing McSorley yesterday, you feel good about just going

1071
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 8: into the season with two quarterbacks are looking to add there.

1072
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, Ben, you know, we talk about this every year.

1073
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 13: What the roster is today, what it is tomorrow, what

1074
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 13: is the next day? Like, there's gonna be changes on

1075
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 13: our roster and every other roster in the league. Every

1076
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 13: single team will have roster transactions over the next multiple days,

1077
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 13: including some up until the day before the opener.

1078
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 15: So it's a process, work through it.

1079
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 13: Some guys will come back, some guys won't. You know,

1080
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 13: we acquire players from another team, two players from another team.

1081
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 13: There's multiple things going on. So so I'm not gonna,

1082
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 13: you know, comment about where we are aren't today because

1083
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 13: the process is far from being over right in the

1084
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 13: middle of it.

1085
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 15: And not all the players that you would ask about

1086
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 15: who aren't here aren't necessarily not gonna be back here.

1087
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 15: So see how it goes.

1088
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: Coach, what did you see from Tyrone Wheatley and Vaderian

1089
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: Will the making good fits in your system?

1090
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1091
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 13: Well, acquired both young players. They I think they have

1092
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 13: upside and I want to work with them. So put

1093
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 13: them out there and see how it goes on.

1094
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 16: Those two guys, thought, how much does your scouting report

1095
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 16: and there coming out of college in the influence decision

1096
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 16: versus what you've seen from them in the NFL, which

1097
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 16: probably isn't that much great and they haven't played that.

1098
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 13: Much, right, Well, I mean with Wheatley, you know, played

1099
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 13: tight end in college, so less on him. I mean

1100
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 13: low when I played for five years at Illinois, so

1101
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 13: more on him in college. Loose had two years in

1102
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 13: the league and played every snap against Tennessee at left tackle,

1103
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 13: so some film on him. Wheatley played in pre season,

1104
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 13: so none. It's a combination of things. Uh, we have

1105
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 13: Wheatley and for uh a workout last year I think

1106
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 13: it was. So there's information comes from various sources, college film,

1107
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 13: college interviews, pro film workouts, other information we've gathered along

1108
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 13: the way so that the Scout department does they do

1109
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 13: a good job of it.

1110
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: So Bill One and Bryce Bearinger kind of your with

1111
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: your evaluation.

1112
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 14: I've never drafted the open ride.

1113
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 17: Jusment to the NFL of course last weeks.

1114
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1115
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 13: Look, I think any any young player obviously a big

1116
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 13: adjustment coming in the National Football League.

1117
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 8: Long way to go.

1118
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 15: They've experienced some things, they'll all experience.

1119
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 13: A lot more how they'll do and other challenges and

1120
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 13: more challenges at any position, but especially that position in

1121
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 13: New England over the course of the year is going

1122
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 13: to be something they'll have to deal with, you know, So.

1123
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 15: We'll see.

1124
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 13: Certainly in Michigan State had their share of balmy days

1125
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 13: as we will, but other ones as well. So, but

1126
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 13: I mean it's a whole different. You know, everything's different.

1127
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 13: Russia's better, the returns are better. You know, it's harder

1128
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 13: to tenements side of the you know, it's everything's harder.

1129
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 15: So and that's true for all rookies. See how it goes, really.

1130
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 18: See cold strange a couple of times arrival in practice

1131
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 18: Nottic obviously expect them to practice today.

1132
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, day to day. We'll see how he is today.

1133
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 15: See how it goes.

1134
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 9: Bill.

1135
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 19: I know previous years we've talked about it difficult. Today

1136
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 19: this can't be for players who are not going to

1137
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 19: be making this team. I'm wondering if you might share

1138
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 19: a little bit about how that process goes for you

1139
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 19: and for your status in terms of communicating that with

1140
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 19: the players is one on one conversations and anything you

1141
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 19: might be able to share about how how challenging a

1142
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 19: day this is.

1143
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, yeah, it's tough today.

1144
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 13: Uh you know, for everyone, we have relationships with players,

1145
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 13: some over extended period of time, some less.

1146
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 15: But yeah, you know, we talked about it the other day.

1147
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 15: It's it is.

1148
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 13: It's difficult for everyone. It's difficult on the relationships. But

1149
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 13: we all knew this day was coming, and this is

1150
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 13: part of the process. And it's a very competitive league

1151
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 13: and there's a lot of a lot of very talented

1152
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 13: you know players, and they compete and not everybody can you.

1153
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 15: Have a spot, So that's difficult.

1154
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 13: Again, I would, as always, like I always do, caution

1155
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 13: you about, you know, thinking I.

1156
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 15: Things are over when they're not necessarily over. On a

1157
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 15: lot of levels.

1158
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 13: They may not be over here, that may not be

1159
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 13: over somewhere else. Players have certainly gone left here and

1160
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 13: gone and had careers, and players have been released by

1161
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 13: other teams and come here the Rob Ninkovich's of the

1162
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 13: world or whatever the you know, tough day for him

1163
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 13: and that's the end of his line. And it definitely

1164
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 13: wasn't so, you know, it's the stories aren't over here.

1165
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 13: This is one step in the process for us and

1166
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 13: and the players, and for some it will be. For

1167
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 13: others it won't be. And some players that we release

1168
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 13: will come back and play for us, be on the

1169
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 13: practice squad, and some won't. That's again, we all knew

1170
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 13: those numbers and and the math when we started.

1171
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 15: I don't know exactly what they'll be. We have general ideas,

1172
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 15: So that's that's the way it is every here. But yeah,

1173
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 15: it's always difficult to.

1174
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 13: Even have to tell the player that he's not going

1175
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 13: to be on the roster, he's going to be on

1176
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 13: the practice squad, or he's not going.

1177
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 15: To be here at all, or whatever it is.

1178
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 13: But like I said, unfortunately, that's that's part of the

1179
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 13: process what we all signed up for. We knew that's

1180
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 13: what it is, and this is one of the days

1181
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 13: that it happens.

1182
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 15: So yeah, I appreciate it.

1183
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. That was Bill Belichick.

1184
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 8: You know, he's, oh, what's it turn you My god?

1185
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: That was Bill Belichick, and he said, right off the bat,

1186
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of balls in the air.

1187
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on right now.

1188
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, they have situations with guys that aren't active

1189
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 8: that they have to decide by four o'clock how they're

1190
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 8: going to open the season. Cody Davis, Calvin Anderson or two.

1191
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 8: I mean, even Trey Flowers I think is still on pup.

1192
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 8: Then the health we talked right before we went to

1193
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 8: Bill about Taekwon Thornton, all those offensive linemen. Where are

1194
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 8: they standing in terms of their physical availability? Yeah, there

1195
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 8: are a lot of balls in the air, and that

1196
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 8: it's not even taken to consideration. What we talked about

1197
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 8: like a guy like Albert Oh, would they put a

1198
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 8: claim in on him? If they do that, they'll do

1199
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 8: that today, right or tomorrow. I guess by tomorrow.

1200
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: That was just one of my biggest questions from the

1201
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 4: trades is if they had to does it make sense

1202
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 4: to wait because so many people get cut? Like how

1203
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 4: much of a sense do they have of all the

1204
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 4: depth charts of Hey, this tackle might get cut. So

1205
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: we either can you know, trade Pierre Strong and go

1206
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 4: get a tackle, or maybe we wait and we see who.

1207
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 8: Gets If you want, but if you want the guy, right,

1208
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 8: you got to make the trade like like like like

1209
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 8: you you were talking about Nick Folk early in the show, Mike,

1210
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 8: So I mean I would say, you know, from a

1211
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 8: rational standpoint, well, why would anybody trade for Nick Folk?

1212
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 8: He's going to get cut. But then you have to fight.

1213
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 8: Then you have to fight. The four teams that are

1214
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 8: supposedly like I think I saw like Dallas in Denver,

1215
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 8: I saw like three or four teams that could possibly

1216
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 8: be in the market for a kicker. Well, then you

1217
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 8: have to fight all those teams and possibly outbid them,

1218
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 8: you know, whereas you give him a seventh round pick

1219
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 8: and you get nick full.

1220
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: Right, let's get back to the phones. Eight five five

1221
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: pats five hundred. Eric is in Amherstburg.

1222
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 8: What's up er Hill township? Favorite?

1223
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 17: So, yeah, that he's here.

1224
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 8: If I had a dollar time someone said that I

1225
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 8: have about what did Evan in Tamarago?

1226
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 20: By the way, disappointed.

1227
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 11: Inut on that.

1228
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 17: So if Bill has the same kind of a year

1229
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 17: as I think he's had drop things since twenty seventeen,

1230
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 17: do you think that he could possibly get relieved of

1231
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 17: GM duties before coaching duties. I know that's a really

1232
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 17: long stretch, but I just think since twenty seventeen, his

1233
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 17: drafting and his free agents findings that completely went downhill

1234
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 17: compared to what they were in the early dynasty is

1235
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 17: what I'll call it. And I'll take the answer off.

1236
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: Well, have a great buy, all right, thanks?

1237
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 6: Eric?

1238
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I never rule anything out. I would

1239
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 8: be completely and totally floored if Bill agrees to just

1240
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 8: you know, seed all the power in just coach, No way,

1241
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 8: I can't imagine that that's going to be the same.

1242
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: But what about Macro just having a little bit more?

1243
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 8: Say, I can't see it. No, as long as I

1244
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 8: mean a little bit more a little bit less. I

1245
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 8: don't know how to define that. But final say, if

1246
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 8: it's not Bill, I can't see him staying yeah. And again,

1247
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 8: maybe he'd surprised you. Maybe he said, you know what,

1248
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 8: I'm seventy whatever years old. I want to coach one

1249
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 8: of a couple of years. I don't want to go

1250
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 8: somewhere else. I just coach. Maybe that'll happen. I'd be

1251
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 8: very doubtful that that would happen to Uh.

1252
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: Nick is in Rhode Island.

1253
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 6: What's up? Nick?

1254
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 4: Oh?

1255
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: Nick is not in Rhode Island anymore. He's gone.

1256
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 8: Good job, didn't pay. So I love this on ninety

1257
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 8: five the sports Ups Italian subs or any other type

1258
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 8: of sub for the rest of your life, this or that.

1259
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 4: Easy any other stuff Italian.

1260
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: I agree it's easy, so meaning if if you pick

1261
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: the any other you can never have that Italian again.

1262
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 8: I couldn't do that.

1263
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: I think I'd do any other. I can still have baconry,

1264
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: you can have your cheeseburger sub, you can have your

1265
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: steak and cheesemi. Yeah, I think i'd go with you

1266
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: any other.

1267
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: That much on the on that program, that program, this

1268
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 4: or that, you just people like throw in oh general,

1269
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 4: it's not it's not thought of by said hosts.

1270
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 8: Well, sometimes sometimes they are, but sometimes they don't. The

1271
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 8: listeners suggest they don't like to talk about sports. So

1272
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 8: you know, saying that is that show cannot be accused

1273
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 8: of that. That's the morning show on that on my station,

1274
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 8: as you like to say, they don't like to talk

1275
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 8: about sports. They had an unbelievable interview today. I'll let

1276
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 8: you get to the call first. Uh yeah, we'll get

1277
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 8: to that later.

1278
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: Nick, and Rhode Island is back.

1279
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 8: What's up?

1280
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 6: Nick?

1281
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,479
Speaker 20: Yeah, I don't know if you guys heard Bert Breer

1282
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 20: the other night. He's talking about, excuse me, the Pats

1283
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 20: looking to trade. He mentioned in a very like withholding way.

1284
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 20: He was like, yeah, think about a team that just

1285
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 20: hired a new coach. That was kind of his clue.

1286
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 20: So I kind of looked into it. I think he's

1287
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 20: talking about zach Ertz. I know Bill had had a

1288
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 20: crush on him whatever years ago. Wondering if to me

1289
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 20: that doesn't move the needle that much, if that's what

1290
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 20: we're looking to trade, I guess not at all, but

1291
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 20: wondering what you guys think about that.

1292
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 4: I think it's SICKI right, I mean, is that he's

1293
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 4: kind of like an old an older version of.

1294
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1295
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 8: I mean, I like zach Ertz as a player. I

1296
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 8: think he's He's had a really really good probably a

1297
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Speaker 8: better career than Kaziki, But you're adding another sort of

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Speaker 8: past catching tight I think that, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 8: Evan talked about pro football focuses assessment of Alberto I see,

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Speaker 8: you know, speaking of Albert Breer. I saw he had

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Speaker 8: a retweet along the same lines of what I was

1302
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 8: thinking about Alberta when he was saying, you know, he

1303
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 8: might add a you know, a run blocking element. So

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Speaker 8: if he's a well rounded guy in thought of as

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Speaker 8: you know, a reasonable enough blocker, I would take a

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Speaker 8: I would take a flyer. I would too. Last year

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 8: of his rookie deal, so cheap money.

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Speaker 4: Young guy, maybe some potential still third to third tight end.

1309
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Speaker 4: Take a shot on him if he develops. I mean,

1310
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Speaker 4: Hunter Henry's a free agent. Kaziki's a free agent, right

1311
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 4: like that, there's no long terms to.

1312
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Speaker 8: Be well, he would be a free agent too if

1313
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Speaker 8: they if they claim on waivers, he'd be appending free agent.

1314
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Speaker 4: That's somebody to try out. Maybe give him an extension.

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Speaker 8: Maybe Matt Lacasse is available.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Jody in Atlanta. Jo Is Hey was

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Speaker 1: going on guys, Hey, hey, so I'm from Atlanta, and uh,

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Speaker 1: since we played up in Nashville.

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Speaker 21: We drove up to the game and go watch and uh,

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Speaker 21: I mean definitely wasn't the most entertaining game, but you know,

1321
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 21: he's time you get to watch football this greatly.

1322
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 20: But I was a little concerned.

1323
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 21: I was trying to watch and I tried to, you know,

1324
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 21: watch into people's individual reps instead of trying to watch

1325
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 21: that the game as a whole. And I noticed they

1326
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Speaker 21: were playing maphu uh in like three different roles that

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Speaker 21: it looks like he played down in the box a

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Speaker 21: little bit, and then he played safety and then I

1329
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 21: think they had him over at splat corner at one point.

1330
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Speaker 21: How do you guys think that they're gonna use him?

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Speaker 21: Kind of going into the season, do you think he'll

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Speaker 21: be more of the second level or more at the

1333
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Speaker 21: third level?

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Speaker 8: Good question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's in between.

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Speaker 3: I think he did.

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01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 8: He definitely started that linebacker and then he ended up.

1338
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Speaker 1: I think he's that big safety that comes down a lot,

1339
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, yeah.

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Speaker 21: I I so if they keep him back there, then

1341
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 21: then who's on the who's on the outs or do

1342
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 21: you think they're gonna keep all their safety because yeah.

1343
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 8: They have well it depends on who you think is in.

1344
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 8: But I mean they Phillips, Dougger, Pepper's and uh Mapoo, right, yeah,

1345
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 8: and Mills and yeah those are the five. Yeah, Okay,

1346
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 8: now I think that I think eventually they want Mapoo

1347
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 8: to be a linebacker, but I don't know if they

1348
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 8: feel like he's ready yet for that. I don't know.

1349
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 8: I mean, that's just my my feeling from Afar. He

1350
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 8: spent more time with you agree, Mike in the secondary

1351
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 8: all summer.

1352
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 6: All of it.

1353
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, yeah, but he started the game the

1354
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 8: other night as a linebacker, not as a not as

1355
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 8: a safety in the box. He was playing linebacker the

1356
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 8: first couple of series. You could see it on TV.

1357
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, yes, it looked to me like he played

1358
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: safety the whole time. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

1359
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 4: I mean, my impression is that the guy moves to

1360
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 4: the second level in a passing down to cover running

1361
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 4: back and people lose their minds. Like I just, I

1362
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 4: don't think he's ever gonna play three to four week

1363
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 4: side linebacker next to Juwan Bentley when hey, we got

1364
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 4: to stop the run. I just I don't see it.

1365
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 4: I don't see it. I think he moves really well.

1366
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: I thought I was on the same thing Evan was on.

1367
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 8: He just ruined my whole day.

1368
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 6: Sorry.

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01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 4: I think he's got great speed. I think, you know,

1370
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 4: unfortunately people might not want to hear it. But I

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Speaker 4: think he might be Kyle Dugger next year. That's what

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Speaker 4: I think.

1373
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,479
Speaker 1: Wow, Because Kyle Dugger may not be I mean, yeah, wow.

1374
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Speaker 4: And I don't know how he gets in this year.

1375
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: I thought, I think Mills has been really good. I

1376
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 4: think it's going to take an injury or some poor

1377
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 4: performance for him to actually get in and have a

1378
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 4: role other than maybe like a special team's up and

1379
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 4: down game day kind of guy.

1380
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 8: Wow.

1381
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, And I like.

1382
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 8: Him, Yeah, I think he has a chat. I mean

1383
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 8: I'm gonna keep my dream alive, Jody. I think that

1384
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 8: Bill's targeting of him tells me that maybe he's at

1385
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 8: least interested in because I think as a safety, he's

1386
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 8: a safety, he's another SAT like. I don't think there's

1387
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 8: anything wrong with their safeties. I think they're good players.

1388
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 8: I think there's some versatility there. But I don't see

1389
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 8: him as like the next Ed Reid or Troy Paulamalo,

1390
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 8: you know, who's going to change the game. I think

1391
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 8: at linebacker, his skill set is intriguing to me, and

1392
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 8: that could be something different, but Mike's probably right.

1393
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I I'll just say, I mean, you know, Evan, thanks.

1394
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: I don't know what this means, but I really love

1395
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 4: this next Gen site that we have access to now,

1396
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 4: which is you know, you you can watch everything that

1397
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 4: give you the dots on every play and you know,

1398
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 4: and it records everybody's speeds and stuff, and you know,

1399
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 4: and and Evin pointed it out and I and I

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01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 4: noticed it too, and you know, it's you know, he

1401
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 4: is consistently take this for what it's worth.

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01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 8: I don't know what this is, this is gonna but

1403
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 8: he's the fastest.

1404
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 4: Guy on the field. A lot of the snaps he

1405
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 4: played the other right now, I don't know what that means,

1406
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 4: but he's the fast He's the guy.

1407
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 8: Who's the fastest on the speed. I think his speed

1408
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 8: is definitely a parent. But I did not like that

1409
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 8: play as much as most. I don't think he took

1410
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 8: a good one and I think he got very lucky.

1411
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 4: Totally fair. I I just I think for me, the

1412
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: observation was that he can run.

1413
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 8: Absolutely and absolutely, you know, I want to linebacker.

1414
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 4: And that's why I you know, I wonder what what

1415
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 4: is it going to be? Is there a you know,

1416
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 4: a free safety, you know that kind of role? Is

1417
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 4: is he is that what they see in him? I

1418
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 4: think he's a really unique player. I mean, I know

1419
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 4: Greg was a little bit down on his play. Evan

1420
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 4: was a little higher. I mean, I just I just

1421
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 4: like his trade.

1422
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: But don't you think those traits don't you think those

1423
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: traits are so important when you're playing a quarterback who

1424
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: can extend plays with his feet. Oh, and there's so

1425
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: many of them that we're going to play. That's where

1426
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: we get burned. It's not so much the first three

1427
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: five seconds. It's when we cover well and then the

1428
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: play breaks down and then we get burned. So if

1429
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: you have a guy like Mapu who's got that kind

1430
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: of speed, maybe he minimize the damage that happens when

1431
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: the play breaks down. I don't know, but I think

1432
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: they've been lacking that.

1433
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just he's got an interesting combination of I

1434
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 4: didn't know how fast he was, and that's just what

1435
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 4: piqued my interest with that, because what I did like

1436
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 4: about him was that he throws his shoulder into guys.

1437
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 4: He's a hard hitter and he just seems to see

1438
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: things and go. He has that recognition skill that you

1439
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 4: don't know.

1440
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 8: The funny thing about that is I think he wants

1441
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 8: to be that, but he didn't look like. I didn't

1442
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 8: like his tackling the other night. I mean he for

1443
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 8: the most part, they were able to make the tackle,

1444
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 8: but some.

1445
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: Of them weren't. They weren't.

1446
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 8: He comes and the play down the sideline. I think

1447
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 8: it was Spears. Spears who was fast. Yep, he had

1448
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 8: the total angle. He had the angle and got out

1449
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 8: run and he barely got it with a shoe string tackle.

1450
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 8: And I didn't love the coverage. I know a lot

1451
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 8: of people disagreed with me. I didn't love the coverage

1452
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 8: on the tight end. I thought of the throw was put,

1453
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 8: you know, back corner high point. Nothing he could have

1454
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 8: done about it.

1455
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 4: I think these are all fair points that you said,

1456
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 4: and that's and that's you know, just part of watching

1457
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 4: a kid play his first game. And there's no question

1458
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 4: some some lumps there. But just as far as the traits,

1459
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: I think he continues to be kind of unique. And

1460
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 4: and that's why the intrigue of of could he play

1461
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: some line? You know, I don't know, I'm with my

1462
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 4: maybe it's coming up, yeah, like coming up as a

1463
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 4: safety with the bad like I get that, Like you know,

1464
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 4: I get that kind of mistake from a rookie you're

1465
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 4: not really used to the NFL speed all of a sudden.

1466
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 4: You know, that's a really hard thing. I'm sure Devin

1467
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 4: mccorty could really talk to that of you know, being

1468
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 4: in the free safety position and recognizing this guy and

1469
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 4: I've got to take an angle in the middle of

1470
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 4: the field and you know, make sure I'm able to

1471
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 4: tackle him. So I I unfortunately, I think he's going

1472
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 4: to kind of be a red shirt year unless you know,

1473
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 4: Mills gets hurt or you know, some of those safeties

1474
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 4: start to go down, but.

1475
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 8: That would really surprise a lot of people.

1476
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 4: I'm kind of disappointed in the take of myself, to

1477
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 4: be totally honest, Like I don't want to.

1478
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 8: Be saying that he's putting himself in take because.

1479
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 4: I love, like I'd love to just see them, like,

1480
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 4: let's get going with this kid, and let's not burn

1481
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 4: a year on him, especially if he's going to be

1482
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 4: involved with there.

1483
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 8: I think, so we're talking about Calvin Munson and mac Wilson, like,

1484
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 8: you know, a room for both of you.

1485
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 4: Get him out? Yeah, what are we doing?

1486
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1487
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 4: No, And I think maybe that's where you're it's like

1488
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 4: six two six, that's Paul, he runs, you know what.

1489
01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, I think he's better going forward

1490
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 4: than not totally the same. But I remember with Merriweather

1491
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 4: and things were different back then with defense, like they

1492
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 4: didn't play as much. They were you know, three four

1493
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 4: four defensive backs and they'd really probably just bring an

1494
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 4: extra defensive back on for passing downs. But that might

1495
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 4: be where mop who gets it is you know that

1496
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 4: linebacker roll cover, you know, put him in the bar back,

1497
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 4: third and seven, put him in there. You've got some

1498
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 4: things you can do with him with that speed, that size,

1499
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 4: that hit.

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Speaker 6: It's your Verizon.

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Speaker 9: Pauly's really had an understated role for the defense. You'l

1524
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 9: goal try By badly fans off the upright and added

1525
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 9: through Carrow's through good for batche from forty four. So

1526
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 9: the Titans take the lead off the point. It's a

1527
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,919
Speaker 9: three to nothing game. In the preseason finale in Nashville,

1528
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 9: Jason Hiness out of LSU so you can hear for

1529
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 9: the Patriots. Now have left guard replaying ferens play action.

1530
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 9: Pay By exactly asked to staft it. Let's just scramble

1531
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 9: and runs his way under the arms of the defender.

1532
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 9: Didn't go Autrey for the ball loose, stop down and

1533
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 9: Jaden Peebe coming up with it. For tennis, soon.

1534
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 11: Ruling on the field as a fumble recovered by the defense.

1535
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 23: Step down now, I thought he was down here. Now

1536
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 23: he got in trouble. Now the ball got knocked out

1537
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 23: right when he got back into the pocket. That's a

1538
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 23: good call. Ball pops out. You're gonna see him step

1539
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 23: up here, steps up left, doesn't like it, fills it

1540
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 23: off the edge and if Bank gets it popped out

1541
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 23: right there.

1542
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 6: He's got to protect the ball. Better to loose with

1543
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 6: the ball there.

1544
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 9: Magually hit it got forty four it now from twenty

1545
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 9: six and they can't.

1546
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 6: Is good.

1547
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 9: So the Patriots with a giveaway on the strip, SAT

1548
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 9: defense holds Tennessee to three six nothing in the first.

1549
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 8: Those two guys Webbin Munson could be fighting for a spot.

1550
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 9: JJ Taylor takes the screen. It's outside and he bruises

1551
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 9: his way forward, shouldering into a defender with a first

1552
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 9: down catch and run for the Pats. Okay, ten yards

1553
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 9: a little screen.

1554
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 23: He's gonna get a chip, but he's gonna leak out

1555
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 23: here into the left flat, so they're setting up screen. Remember,

1556
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 23: offensive line cannot cut outside the tackle box there anymore,

1557
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 23: so all you gotta do is just walt some guys

1558
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 23: off and get two hits right there.

1559
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 6: Jenj picks up a nice game, keep making plays kid.

1560
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 9: Through maybe half the practice squad, there is little to

1561
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 9: no separation in terms of the talent of a lot

1562
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 9: of those players. Where the running outside and the broken

1563
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 9: tackle and spears the fours out of Adams. Eventually with

1564
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 9: the first down for Tennessee.

1565
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 6: That's a good strong run.

1566
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 23: Right there, and he's stiff arms and runs over Jack

1567
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 23: Jack Jones here and Jones.

1568
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 6: It's got to be better.

1569
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 5: You know this.

1570
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 23: This run kicks out backside. You're the last guy defense

1571
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 23: back there. Hand right to the head, stiff arm.

1572
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 9: Got to remind you that while you're seeing our video

1573
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 9: images is the home the Titans that have the angles

1574
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 9: for a pitch the offentials and Calvin Munson, I mean

1575
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 9: over the January. SI has it for the Patriots. Another

1576
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 9: big play for the linebacker making his cakes tonight, you

1577
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 9: Tennessee man Munson.

1578
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 6: Make it some place. See the best thing about this

1579
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 6: is the ball as it's deflected and it comes.

1580
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 8: Up see it.

1581
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 6: Make sure it doesn't hit the ground. It's gonna be

1582
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 6: on top of the defensive player. He gets it.

1583
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 9: He's got that more.

1584
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 6: Frank co oheris asking immacular reception. Yeah, he stays what

1585
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 6: he does.

1586
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 23: He helps secure the ball by landing up top of

1587
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 23: the offensive player. Pitch catches this slips happy and then

1588
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 23: if he takes a pile driving still in ten and

1589
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 23: do the vid so he makes up for the short

1590
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 23: arm on the previous possession, gets gets the slant chip

1591
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 23: sort of stuck right on the numbers here makes it

1592
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 23: an easy catch for him.

1593
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 6: By zappy, that's an easier throw too.

1594
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 23: It doesn't throw this ninety five miles an hour like

1595
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 23: the last one, and then you just catch him.

1596
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 6: What else are you gonna do with it? He's got

1597
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 6: extra five there, he's.

1598
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 9: At six up to eight over nine in twenty three

1599
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 9: in all. Now the Patriots have their first and goal

1600
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 9: to go down by six. The gift to Harris through

1601
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 9: the right side and the m zone touchdown Patriots.

1602
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 23: It's about as easy a touchdown run as you could

1603
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 23: have preseason game number thirty.

1604
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 6: A lot of guys mixing and matching up front.

1605
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 23: This just goes right up the middle and it's hat

1606
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 23: on a hat, so Andrews is in its center.

1607
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 6: He gets the initial turn right there. That's the key.

1608
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 6: It's that right side, the right side all turns right

1609
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 6: and the backer gets picked.

1610
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 9: Willis will a turn in the game of reversing directions.

1611
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 9: Westmas his way in the open patio. I crossed the

1612
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 9: forty five and it eventually caught by Roberts twenty three

1613
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 9: yards for Julius Chestnut.

1614
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 23: And it's a bad angle at the back end here.

1615
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 23: Now it's a heck of a run. It's over pursuit

1616
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 23: to the right. They do a good job walling it off,

1617
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 23: and there's our angle right there where you missed the

1618
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 23: tackle from deep. That's a good job Roberts hustling downfield,

1619
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 23: you know for a big guy staying with it. He

1620
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 23: could have quit gave up there, stays with it and

1621
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 23: ends up getting to the ball.

1622
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,799
Speaker 9: Care the kick by Badgeley, Well why to the left?

1623
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 9: So the Patriots still have the lead. I'm a missed

1624
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 9: from thirty nine thanks to the effort by robertson company.

1625
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 9: And Willis works in the gun waiting on the tenth

1626
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 9: snap of this series, he looks to throw it and

1627
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 9: he talkses all put a touchdown.

1628
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 6: Hey, you're in that score in.

1629
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 23: The celebration for tennessee two consecutive plays, excellent feet.

1630
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 6: I believe Willis here fill the pressure.

1631
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 23: He's makes a couple of plays getting outside the pocket

1632
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 23: tonight squares the shoulders back against the line of scrimmage here,

1633
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 23: so you're gonna see the pressure again. And right there

1634
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 23: if for Go gets beat, that's a good ball. Keep

1635
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 23: that ball nice low right out front, sticking between the numbers.

1636
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 9: Will's going back and looking at it throws, it's picked

1637
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 9: off and Giles Harris, the former Buffalo Bill has a

1638
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 9: theft is a New England Patriot.

1639
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 23: Ice read ice read by him dropping underneath the coverage

1640
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 23: from the backside. Quarterback didn't see him. Tried to float

1641
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 23: the ball in there. This ball may have been tipped

1642
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:50,959
Speaker 23: at the line of scrimmage.

1643
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 9: Willis flushed right, directing traffic to the end zone. Touchdown Tennessee.

1644
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 9: Beautiful throw as he finds now, Harris Jackson.

1645
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 6: He created his.

1646
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 23: Own groove here tonight. He didn't start well, no tim

1647
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 23: leek Willis, but he hung in there. He started to

1648
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 23: make some place, gains some confidence, used his legs that

1649
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 23: set up throwing angles to where he could find his guys.

1650
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 23: Pocket too long in that pocket, man, that clockeat's got

1651
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 23: to be ticking tick and ticket.

1652
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 6: They recovered it. He didn't get just getting on it.

1653
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 9: But they're gonna give it away with a punt.

1654
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 6: He's gonna shout at Billy, oh hear.

1655
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1656
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 6: Ball definitely came out.

1657
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 9: He was able to still secure it with that left hand.

1658
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 6: Came down the body.

1659
01:17:49,640 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 9: Stonehouse, second ear butter for Tennessee and into the end zone.

1660
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 9: Don't return it. He's gonna try. No, oh my, there's

1661
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 9: an inexperienced guys is.

1662
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 6: Not happy of that. What's he doing? Supposed to put your.

1663
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 9: Foot in the five yard? But the Patriots will start

1664
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 9: inside the five for one of those specialist jobs pleasure,

1665
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 9: you know.

1666
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 6: Those up top to fourth cat.

1667
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 9: Sacked and as told you, the ball came loose again.

1668
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 9: Third fumble for Bailey in this game. He's recovered two

1669
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 9: of them.

1670
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 23: You can't control the rush. It's very frustrating night for him.

1671
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,799
Speaker 23: Billy keeps putting him back out there.

1672
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: All right back here and Patriots unfiltered. It's deuced Paul

1673
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: and Fred holding down the fort. Tamarron Evan ran off

1674
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: to Bill Belichick's press conference.

1675
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,839
Speaker 4: I think they might have gone to practice, now, practice

1676
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 4: and attendance. See who's out there? I did see?

1677
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 13: Uh?

1678
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: I thought we were down to like minimal attendance. That

1679
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: like for media, you can only send one per outlet, right,

1680
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: So what's going on?

1681
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1682
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, might just I don't know. We'll have

1683
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: to find out who who actually went out there.

1684
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 8: We'll see, okay, all right, don't you don't have to

1685
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 8: blow the whistle on ourselves. No, I know, but lets

1686
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 8: someone else got us in trouble.

1687
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Web Radio at Patriots dot com is

1688
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: the email address eight five past five hundred eight.

1689
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 4: I was just gonna I was gonna share with the

1690
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 4: crew that Alvin Calvin Anderson is being activated today from

1691
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 4: NFI according to the field Yates, So he will start

1692
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,560
Speaker 4: practicing immediately. You'll probably be out there today. So a

1693
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 4: little bit of of reinforcements. I guess that was I mean,

1694
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 4: he played left tackle the whole time. There were Oh

1695
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 4: and I and Rapaport just confirming, yes, Patriots are trading

1696
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: Nick Folk to the Titans. Oh so there you go

1697
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 4: four a twenty twenty five seventh round pick.

1698
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what did you think?

1699
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 8: I mean, like, I'm not trying to be disrespectful.

1700
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 4: What is the first rounder?

1701
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: What about twenty twenty four? We're not having a draft

1702
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty or thirty eight year old kicker?

1703
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 8: What did you think they were going to get for him?

1704
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 17: No?

1705
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like maybe a draft pick next

1706
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: year instead of two years from now.

1707
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1708
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 8: Wow.

1709
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: Anyway, alarms are about to go off. They're testing the

1710
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: fire lines.

1711
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 8: But hopefully you won't hear anything.

1712
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have our specialists, right, so the rookies,

1713
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 1: we have our kickers.

1714
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let's go. I mean I think everybody's just

1715
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 4: like you drafted them.

1716
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: Are we now nervous about those game winning three field goals?

1717
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 4: Like the least of my worries right now?

1718
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: If we get to that.

1719
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 4: Point, Well, now I'm just like, well, hey, maybe we

1720
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 4: could kick sixty yarders if we have to.

1721
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1722
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think when you draft, when you

1723
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 8: spend draft capital on this stuff, it's automatic. Yeah, you

1724
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 8: have to keep them unless the guy really just craps out,

1725
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 8: like justin.

1726
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: Wan in Monterrey. Is Mike Okay, he says these last

1727
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 1: few weeks has been really down on the team. Even Paul,

1728
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: who was the great White Snark, looks like Homer in comparison.

1729
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: Where is the guy who was excited to be done

1730
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: with the Brady era to begin the new one?

1731
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 8: Just trying to provide something broken?

1732
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 4: No, I mean I've had fun. I mean there's been

1733
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 4: there's been some good stuff this summer, but I mean

1734
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 4: top of the show was all about the tackles, and

1735
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 4: like I said, all spring you spent talking about tackles.

1736
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: But I think the point of the emailer is you

1737
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: should be happy if the Brady errors have continued.

1738
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 8: This is what you wanted, this is what you asked.

1739
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 4: So wrong. I should have realized that Tom Brady was

1740
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 4: actually good, and we should we.

1741
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 8: Should have just left. In retrospect, we should have kept

1742
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 8: him when he come.

1743
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one, and we'd be going for foreigner.

1744
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: When he comes back for week one.

1745
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 4: You can, you know, apologize. Yeah, well, I'm just waiting

1746
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 4: because I'm assuming maybe at some point our past will

1747
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 4: cross in this building, and I'm just hoping Paul's not

1748
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 4: there to be like, you know, he hates you, like

1749
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:57,879
Speaker 4: you know he's Paul's gonna.

1750
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 8: Tell me I would I would never, I know.

1751
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 4: I know you wouldn't realize I would do it.

1752
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 8: Someone who had a sense of humor that would be funny.

1753
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 8: I wouldn't do I wouldn't embarrass it.

1754
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: No, Christian is in La. What's up? Christian?

1755
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 17: Hey you guys, Good morning for a good afternoon.

1756
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 18: So it seems like with Ezekiel, Elliott and Verman dre

1757
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 18: Stevens that we had the power back spot sort of

1758
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 18: filled out and understood.

1759
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 11: So I'm struggling to understand.

1760
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 18: Why we didn't try to trade like a Damien Harris

1761
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 18: or a packaged with time Montgomery to get alignment instead

1762
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 18: of what I considered the player that felt like he

1763
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 18: could have grown to be a really dangerous third down

1764
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 18: back with his receiving ability and speed and Pierre Strong.

1765
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 18: Was it that Harris or mont didn't have any trade value?

1766
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 18: Why we got rid of them instead of Strong? What

1767
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 18: do you what are you guys thinking?

1768
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 8: Yep?

1769
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: I think that well Evan. If you heard the beginning

1770
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: of the show, Evan said that strong style of running

1771
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: was more suited to what they were trying to do.

1772
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: Last year was the outside runs, and this year he

1773
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: was kind of in his way. He said, a square

1774
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: peg in a round hole.

1775
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 8: And in fairness, Bill said that didn't have anything to

1776
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 8: do with it.

1777
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, he did.

1778
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 8: No, I'm just I just want to present both sides.

1779
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 8: I've often said, you don't always listen to what Bill says,

1780
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 8: you know, yeah, stuff like that. But he was asked

1781
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 8: that question yesterday and said it didn't have anything to

1782
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 8: do with it.

1783
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you mentioned Damien Harris. He meant Kevin Kevin Harris.

1784
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean Strong, has I don't listen. I

1785
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 8: don't think the trade value was ridiculously high on any

1786
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 8: of those three, but I would say Pierre Strong's was

1787
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 8: higher than Kevin Harris's and certainly Time Montgomery at this

1788
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 8: stage of his career.

1789
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 6: But right well, I.

1790
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 18: Would say package do they do?

1791
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 17: They do that where they would package two players, but the.

1792
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 8: Other team has to want it. The other team has

1793
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 8: to want it like you have to, like Bill says,

1794
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 8: you have to trade something to get something. It's hard.

1795
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: With time on Comry two, he thanks Christian.

1796
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 8: That's why I think he has no trade value.

1797
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 4: I was just going to point out, Paul, you know,

1798
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 4: you did the profile to leave on Strong and and

1799
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 4: you were kind of early on, like I think we

1800
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 4: were all just penciling him in as the third down back,

1801
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 4: and I think you were one of the first. He

1802
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 4: wasn't really that guy, and so I think that lends

1803
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 4: a little bit of credence towards, you know, maybe the style,

1804
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,480
Speaker 4: but I never really saw much of anything.

1805
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 8: But Evan's talking about the running style. He's more suited

1806
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 8: to the zone runs that they were trying to do

1807
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 8: last year. That was what intrigued him, not as opposed

1808
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 8: to as opposed to the just sort of. But here's

1809
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 8: the thing. When given opportunities to catch screen passes and whatnot,

1810
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 8: he didn't look out of place. Now, the intricacies of

1811
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 8: what they want you to do, I don't know. Maybe

1812
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 8: he didn't have those, Maybe he didn't have the instincts

1813
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 8: as a blitz pick up guy. Maybe he wasn't great

1814
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 8: at running routes. I don't know. But the handful of

1815
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 8: times he got his hands on the ball, he tended

1816
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 8: to make something happen. I thought he had a really

1817
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 8: nice in the game the other night. I mean, they

1818
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,560
Speaker 8: had seventy nine yards of total offense. He had like

1819
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 8: twelve of them on that play, right, So I just thought,

1820
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 8: I'm not up in arms about it. I'm not changing

1821
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 8: my views on running backs. I just thought it was

1822
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 8: a curious decision to end an experiment with a guy

1823
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 8: one year in to get what they got. Now, if

1824
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 8: it was to get like Josh Jones, a guy who

1825
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 8: started some games in the league, that would be different.

1826
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 8: This is to get a guy who played tight end

1827
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 8: until twenty minutes ago and has never played on a roster.

1828
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 8: I just besides the fact that you had the same

1829
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 8: guy in for a workout last year. You could have

1830
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 8: had him for nothing. That's exactly what I thought, Paul

1831
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 8: when they did the move.

1832
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 4: Is sometimes they do things that I'm just like, you

1833
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 4: can already see the SoundBite, and I'm like, well, there

1834
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 4: it is. You just traded a fourth round for a

1835
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 4: guy who wasn't even in the league a year ago.

1836
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: Not ideal, uh Rick and Louisville. I know, I'm probably

1837
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: making more of it than needed, but I really like

1838
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: Nick Folk. Maybe I should find Hardy and we could

1839
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: go drink ourselves into oblivion. I never say anything he

1840
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: did wrong.

1841
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 8: There's a lot of reason why Nick, Folks. He was

1842
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 8: he was balls, he was like ninety yeah and whatever.

1843
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 8: Four years he never missed. There's no what, what possible

1844
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 8: reason could you have to not like Nick?

1845
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, with a with a short little blip in

1846
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: between the page has been pretty good with uh you

1847
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: know field goal kickers.

1848
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 8: Just ask him about it.

1849
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: But n Goskowski and now Folk, you know, I mean,

1850
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty good run.

1851
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 8: That's a pretty good run, folks.

1852
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:32,560
Speaker 4: Just a great story. I mean, you know this just

1853
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 4: it never happens. You signed this like cast off guy.

1854
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 4: That's a punchline. And then he becomes you know, super

1855
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 4: solid for you, I.

1856
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 8: Think want.

1857
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 4: But like that like a thirty eight year old guy

1858
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 4: and like he's been kicked, yeah, thirty five. I think

1859
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 4: just the the Tampa woman was the one which he

1860
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 4: would hit Jack.

1861
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 8: He was good earlier in his career.

1862
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: Jack writes him, what is the realistic longevity of Bill

1863
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: O'Brien on this team? If this year is bad and

1864
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: we're looking for a new quarterback? Is he staying around

1865
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: for that? If this year is a success, how much

1866
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: longer is he willing to stay with the team? Any

1867
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: possible interest into becoming a head coach again, whether it

1868
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: may be here or elsewhere, or do you think he'll

1869
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 1: just ride this out for however long Bill is here?

1870
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I mean, I think there's maybe

1871
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 4: something to be said for him being from around here

1872
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 4: and maybe he'll ride it out a little bit to

1873
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 4: you know, he's been all around the country for a while.

1874
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 4: Maybe he likes being back here. But it's a it's

1875
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 4: a good question.

1876
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 8: I don't have I don't have the answer to it.

1877
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 8: Mike is right, you know, it's a good question. My

1878
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 8: guess is if he gets a head coaching opportunity, he'll go.

1879
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 8: I think he wants to be a head coach again

1880
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 8: in the league.

1881
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dan and Poughkeepsie.

1882
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 9: What's up Dan, Hey, guys.

1883
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 12: So I'm itching for the season to get started. So

1884
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 12: I've been watching old past games from the past, like

1885
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 12: pre dynasty. Just to let you know, I've watched the

1886
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 12: eighty five and the ninety six championship games. Right now,

1887
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 12: have the one regular season finale against Miami in O one.

1888
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 12: Is there any games as a fan you watched that

1889
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 12: maybe you would want to watch for the first time again?

1890
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh God, there's plenty. I mean, just go down the

1891
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: list of all the great games that the Pagers had.

1892
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 4: Just you know, I'm sure Paul can give you some

1893
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 4: Drew Bledsoe greatest hits.

1894
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 8: No, I mean there's a lot of there's a lot

1895
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 8: of games like that. But I mean, you want to

1896
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 8: go back old school like Minnesota. So he watched the AFC,

1897
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 8: the eighty five AFC Championship. That was the that was

1898
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 8: the snapping of the Orange Bowl. Jinks down there. Well,

1899
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 8: the next year in eighty six, the last game of

1900
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 8: the year, they had to win in Miami to win

1901
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 8: the division. Great game down there and they won back

1902
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 8: to back in the Orange Bowl, so I think it

1903
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 8: was the regular season finale in eighty six they won

1904
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 8: down in Miami. That was a great game to watch.

1905
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 8: I mean, Drew, I could give you a million.

1906
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 4: Get the Minnesota ninety five one though, that's.

1907
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 8: That's ninety four four sorry nine Minnesota. Even all those

1908
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 8: games down the stretch were just terrific. The Jets game

1909
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 8: here in December, I think Boomer size and threw a

1910
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 8: pick six to Ricky Reynolds right in front of me

1911
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 8: in front.

1912
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 4: Of the Tuna Buls. Those are pretty good ones too.

1913
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 6: Oh.

1914
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 1: I did not like that first Tuna Bowl, man. That

1915
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: was one of the most emotional game like I ever watched,

1916
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: because it was just it was more than just a game.

1917
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 1: That was the beginning of the end with my girlfriend.

1918
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 1: This was a this was a blood fuse.

1919
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 8: It was but I was I was completely like Fred says,

1920
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:36,520
Speaker 8: I was completely irrational.

1921
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: It was it was it was the border war. You

1922
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 1: just we can't lose this game. We can't lose this game.

1923
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: And they you know the way it ended in overtime.

1924
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 4: What a game that was, which she's trying to like

1925
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 4: play stuff during the game, for you, and he's like, so,

1926
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 4: could we just go get some groceries?

1927
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 8: But I was it was just the two of us,

1928
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 8: and I'm like hocking ship around, like hello, whoa, whoa,

1929
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 8: whoa hocking ship around? Oh yeah, yeah, I was spaking thirst.

1930
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: He did it twice.

1931
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 8: I was speaking the first word. Wow, that was a ducism.

1932
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 8: But no, no apparent reason. I wasn't even upset. I apologize, Yeah,

1933
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 8: I was. I was throwing things around. Yeah, go ahead, Dan,

1934
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 8: it was long to be onto that.

1935
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 12: Paul, thank you. But also I would like to ask,

1936
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 12: I just found out that my great grandfather went to

1937
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 12: practices at Ryan's.

1938
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 8: What years were those Oh it was for like twenty years, right,

1939
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 8: I want to say seventy six to ninety two thousand two,

1940
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 8: two thousand and two, No, yeah, the year we opened

1941
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 8: up here we went, so it's two thousand and two, right, thanks. Yeah,

1942
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 8: it's almost like I wrote a story.

1943
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 12: You guys have been very helpful, Thank you.

1944
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 8: All right, Yeah, it was seventy something. I don't know

1945
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 8: the exact first year, it was like seventy six. Yeah,

1946
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,839
Speaker 8: so it was you know, a little before.

1947
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: Bryan reminds me of recently last week, Pete Carroll had

1948
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: a quote, I guess he was on Richard Sherman's podcast

1949
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: about you know, when Pete first got here and he

1950
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: wanted to serve a certain type of food and we're

1951
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 1: not serving that, and they served in bologney sandwiches and chips.

1952
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's kind of weird, because like

1953
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: back in the day, Brian, we would eat with the players.

1954
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 8: I said this to different people.

1955
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: Now, well, no, but confirmed, and I talked to his

1956
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: own I said, what's he talking about? And he said,

1957
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: he's talking about like at lunch up in you know,

1958
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: back in the old stadium, they used the VIP Club

1959
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: as sort of the lunch room for the players because

1960
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: they didn't have a lunch room, and they would put

1961
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: out like a deli bar. So you make your own sandwiches,

1962
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: is what Zoe said. It was, you know, It's like

1963
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: he said, we didn't care. It was like, you make

1964
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: your own sandwich. It wasn't just blog No, it wasn't

1965
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: just bologna. I mean, so Pete kind of exaggerated.

1966
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 8: It's not what they have now, I mean now, But

1967
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 8: I think the point as Pete tried to he wanted to, Yeah,

1968
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 8: he wanted to orchestrate what the meals were. It wasn't

1969
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 8: allowed to. I think that was the point.

1970
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it.

1971
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 4: Seems like they eventually got there because everything I've ever

1972
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 4: heard is that the.

1973
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: Food for the oh yeah, I mean yeah, absolutely, and

1974
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 1: it's personalized. Yeah, you go in there and Deuce has

1975
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: what he wants and what he needs, you know, to

1976
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: keep either lose calories or gain calories.

1977
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 8: But friend's right, Like we used to go when we

1978
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 8: were at Bryant and we would have dinner. And when

1979
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 8: we first when I first started there was like we

1980
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 8: ate in the same calf as.

1981
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 6: The the play.

1982
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to wait until they were.

1983
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 8: Done, had to wait till they were done, and then

1984
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 8: we could go in. But steaks, lobster, good, good stuff.

1985
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 8: Then the next year we were in a different calf,

1986
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 8: but but.

1987
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: Still it was real food.

1988
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 5: You know.

1989
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 8: It wasn't like boloneywich better than that.

1990
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: So I was wondering, but Zoe said that, yeah, they'd

1991
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: have a deli bar for lunch, you know, you make

1992
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: your own seal.

1993
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 8: And that was during mini camps too.

1994
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't like all the time, Pete, come on, Pete, yeah,

1995
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: a little a little bit better, But I do know Pete.

1996
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 8: To defend Pete, he did have he asked for some

1997
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 8: things and yeah, never not any Yeah, it was remember

1998
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 8: the rug thing.

1999
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: The budget was a lot tighter back then than it

2000
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 1: is now.

2001
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 8: Wanted to change a rug and wasn't allowed to.

2002
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Like the carpet in his office looked like there was

2003
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: a death scene there.

2004
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 8: You know, you've never you've never been there, right, like

2005
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 8: you inside the old stadium, the old stadium offices were

2006
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 8: just I mean, there's no other way to put it.

2007
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 8: They were horrific. Yeah, they were really bad. And that's

2008
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 8: why Robert worked so hard to build this place because

2009
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 8: he understood how antiquated, you know, how like here, you.

2010
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: Know, you can find a bathroom right that has less pressure,

2011
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Like there there were

2012
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: like two bathrooms and one of them you shared with

2013
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: the greasy ass coaches, you know, and like it was

2014
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: just a mess. It was the whole play. Like the

2015
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: backstairs led to the locker room, and it just the smell.

2016
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 8: Of you urine if it was really wet, like it

2017
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 8: it would come in through the back of the just awful.

2018
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 12: It was.

2019
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 4: It was like all in the above the locker room,

2020
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 4: that end of the stage.

2021
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 1: East whatever direction and no compass. It was all in

2022
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: one area.

2023
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 8: They like passed that office like super box right.

2024
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: Right, the VIP box. Yeah, and then you know during

2025
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: the week, during the week, there was a coat closet

2026
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 1: in that va and that's where a lot of our

2027
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: guys worked. We would in one time they had an event,

2028
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: we had a double. We had to work and checking coats.

2029
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding because we weren't done,

2030
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: so we had to be the people taking in the

2031
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 1: coats and giving people their tickets while we did our work.

2032
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 4: Tips on.

2033
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: I think there were a few tips passed around effort.

2034
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 8: That was pretty Paul. Yeah, I have to work in

2035
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 8: the col closet.

2036
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

2037
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

2038
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 4: I mean I did get to Reebok had a box

2039
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 4: at that one, so we got to go to a

2040
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 4: couple of games up in the I think I've told

2041
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 4: the story. I was dropping ice out the window on

2042
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 4: the poor fans below. I still feel terrible about that.

2043
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 8: Oh so you were actually in the press box one.

2044
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that one, a big one overlooking from the side. Yeah,

2045
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 4: it is that Rebok, the heyday of Rebok, Those days

2046
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 4: where the mid eighties.

2047
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean players would come, you know, players

2048
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: from like Texas and stuff would come and say.

2049
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 8: High school yeah, literally not as good as their high school, yeah,

2050
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 8: let alone college.

2051
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a dump. And it was never nice, Like

2052
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 1: from day one, it wasn't nice.

2053
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 8: The day they opened it, it wasn't nice.

2054
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 4: No, I was terrifying. I mean I went my mi

2055
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 4: went there as a kid, before we were in there,

2056
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 4: and before we were in the box, just sitting in

2057
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 4: the stands and looking out into the like the cage

2058
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 4: where they would like lock guys up and they were

2059
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 4: like fights going on, and I'm like, the first.

2060
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 8: Game I went to.

2061
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 4: Terrifying.

2062
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 8: I will I will say the only redeeming quality the

2063
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 8: stadium had was the sitelines for fans were excellent.

2064
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, like wide open.

2065
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 8: I mean the seats stunk, I mean most of them

2066
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 8: were metal benches. Yeah, but you had like there was

2067
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:08,759
Speaker 8: good sightline.

2068
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 4: Do you remember when we were in the stands when

2069
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 4: it rained there. I remember there being like a river

2070
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 4: coming down like through the stands and there were so

2071
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 4: many like kind of up and downs through the cement

2072
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 4: stairs all around the stead. It was like you couldn't

2073
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 4: walk down certain areas because there was just a plus one.

2074
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 1: As you probably remember, it was all bench seats, so

2075
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, you go to the bathroom and then someone

2076
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: had slid over. You know, it's like that costed fights.

2077
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, it was just the bathrooms with the leaky

2078
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 1: pipes and it's just something out of a horror movie.

2079
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: It was just terrible.

2080
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:39,680
Speaker 4: I miss it.

2081
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Like we we had, we had, we had, we had

2082
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: four season tickets between five guys and it got so bad,

2083
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: like we ended up arguing, oh, this is my week

2084
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: to sit out. No, no, I went last week, you know,

2085
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 1: like you didn't want to go at the end of it.

2086
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 1: It was terrible.

2087
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 4: Well they were bad too, man. It was just not

2088
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 4: a lot of good teams until those mid eighties they

2089
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 4: had a couple, but then early nineties, woof.

2090
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see Pat Nagawam, good afternoon. My question for

2091
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: the day is do you think Bill is taking a

2092
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: chance on unproven commodities at offensive tackle instead of signing

2093
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 1: Corey Cunningham, who was released by the Giants has played

2094
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: here and has proven he can play in the league.

2095
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 1: We're not getting anyone with a modicum of high level

2096
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: talent at that position at this point, but why not

2097
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: take someone with at least the system in NFL experience.

2098
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't get it. I mean, I

2099
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 4: guess if you want to look at the glass half full,

2100
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 4: that they're they're trying to find somebody that they can

2101
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 4: have long term that's you know, young, but it's just hard.

2102
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 4: I mean, from Calvin Anderson to to you know, these

2103
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 4: two new guys that they traded for just not a

2104
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 4: lot of experience, not a lot of you know, when

2105
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 4: you get those free agents in and you say, this

2106
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 4: is what this guy has done in the league, and

2107
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 4: this is what he could do for us. Like all

2108
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 4: of these guys, it's either you know, the older ones,

2109
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 4: can he hold on? Can we squeeze one more season

2110
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 4: out of it? Or you know, we're hoping that a

2111
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 4: Calvin Anderson or a Tyrone or Vaderian Lowe is suddenly

2112
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 4: going to come here and blossom into that tackle. But

2113
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 4: it's a huge long term need next year too, and

2114
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 4: when you's up too, So I mean you've just you've

2115
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 4: got major questions and not just this year.

2116
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, would you feel better if they signed a guy

2117
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 8: like Corey Cunningham.

2118
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 4: Specifically him, not really, because he's been here forever and

2119
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 4: he couldn't even get on the field when they probably

2120
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 4: could have used him.

2121
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 8: So I mean he was I mean, he's spent two

2122
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 8: years here, Like.

2123
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,839
Speaker 4: At least I can fool myself into thinking like Vederian

2124
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 4: Low might develop into something because he hasn't been here before. Yeah,

2125
01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 4: that's probably the same guy.

2126
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 8: Is he better than you know? More accomplished is probably

2127
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 8: the better word than the two guys they signed. Yes,

2128
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:37,480
Speaker 8: he's played for parts of five seasons and he's participated

2129
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 8: in thirty one career games, six starts all in his

2130
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,759
Speaker 8: rookie year in Arizona. Hasn't started a game since eighteen.

2131
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 8: So what I think he's established himself as is not

2132
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 8: good enough. But that's probably a higher level than these

2133
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 8: two guys are at right now. But I don't think

2134
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 8: he's an option for you to start.

2135
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 4: Well, that's just like, what does the line look like

2136
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 4: week one? I mean, you know, are these guys? I

2137
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 4: think's right? You're probably gonna have two guys getting their

2138
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 4: first career start against the Philly offensive defensive line.

2139
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 1: I think it's so when you I think Fred's right,

2140
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: David writes in he says Nick Folk is innocent. I

2141
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 1: don't think Nick Folk regressed last year. I think the

2142
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 1: Jack Bailey, the Jake Bailey injury greatly impacted his kicking,

2143
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: considering Bailey had never been the ball holder for Folk

2144
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: once Bailey got hurt, or had been the ball holder

2145
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 1: once Bailey got hurt, Folk never looked the same. I

2146
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 1: don't know was he well?

2147
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 8: Then? So what do I need him for? I just

2148
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 8: needed Jake Bailey back as the holder. I guess no, Listen,

2149
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 8: I think that the Jake Bailey absence that you probably

2150
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 8: is more relevant is the kickoff guy. I think the kickoffs,

2151
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 8: the added workload to Folk probably affected him a little

2152
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 8: bit in field goals, but even Nanny, I mean, it's

2153
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 8: not like you fell apart. Yeah, the guy made roughly

2154
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 8: not I mean, I don't have the numbers in front

2155
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,919
Speaker 8: of me, but I gotta think he was around ninety.

2156
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 4: Percent inside of fifty even money, I gotta think he was.

2157
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 8: He was around ninety percent in his time as a Patriot.

2158
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Speaker 8: The field goals, Yeah, he was excellent.

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01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 1: Jason and Ohio loved the show. Been listening almost a decade.

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01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: Between Evan Paul Deuce, You've built the best Patriots talk

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01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: show available. Excellent chemistry and talent. Yes, the interviews you

2162
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: put on YouTube, especially the Bill Belichick interviewers, have some

2163
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: of the worst audio quality. You cannot hear reporters at all,

2164
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: and even on max volume, Bill is barely audible. Incredibly

2165
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: frustrating to be interested in this content when it is

2166
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 1: consistently subpar. Sorry, just being honest.

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01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Well, new press conference room this year. I

2168
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:38,879
Speaker 4: don't know if that's a complaint going back to last.

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01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 8: Year, but we've had a lot of time. Yeah, I

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01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 8: actually had to go down and take part in like

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01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 8: a simulated press conference because they're trying to get that well,

2172
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 8: you know, up to speed, but it's not.

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01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 1: Well Like for example, today, it was actually good at

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01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 1: least what I was listening. I could hear it, but

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01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: it varies, you know, depending on location and the equipment

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01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 1: that's available there and all that. So yeah, no, I

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01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: I share in David's frustration. Sometimes you can hear the

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01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 1: reporter's questions.

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Speaker 8: It's tough.

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01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 4: I don't know how you would get them consistently when

2181
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 4: they're all over the room unless you had a guy

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01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 4: with a mic going.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're in a set room that you use

2184
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 1: all you can make it up in which we're doing

2185
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 1: with the media workroom. But when you're outside or you're

2186
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 1: on the road after a game, you never know what

2187
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: that postgame press conference room is going to look like.

2188
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's tough. Yeah, you know, but I hear you.

2189
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: You know, we're always trying to get.

2190
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 8: That another cut that some of the folks on Twitter

2191
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 8: are reporting Anthony. Sorry, Claire, looks like Anthony Firkser is

2192
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 8: being cut.

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01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Roger and Saint Louis. I want to hear your

2194
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: thoughts about the rest of the league. So let's get

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01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: your twenty twenty three seasons of perlatives. My choices are

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01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,520
Speaker 1: in parentheses. Worst team, he says, the Falcons.

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01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 8: Oh, I would disagree. I think the Falcons building some

2198
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,879
Speaker 8: young especially old positions. Worst team in football?

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01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 1: Are the Colts going to be any good? Yeah?

2200
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 4: That was what I was thinking.

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01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 8: I think the Cardinals will be the worst team.

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01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

2203
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: They're trying to the most disappointing team, he says, the Eagles. Eagles,

2204
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say the Jets, of course.

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01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 8: Okay, so that's a good answer. Can you give me

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01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 8: what you really think? Now, the Jets, but your real answer.

2207
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm hoping.

2208
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 8: I know that's what you're hoping.

2209
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Speaker 1: Okay, Most disappointing.

2210
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 8: Detroit Lions.

2211
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 1: Well that could be. But what do the Broncos because

2212
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 1: Peyton's there, if they're bad, is at a disappointing I

2213
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: don't know, I know, but now they've got Sean Payton, I.

2214
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 8: Know, but they still won like four games, like I know, maybe.

2215
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 1: Five, But aren't hopes high there now that they don't him?

2216
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Most surprisingly good team Patriots? Okay, surprised, he says, Raiders.

2217
01:42:59,600 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 8: Surprise.

2218
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 4: I don't thinkers.

2219
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 8: Who do we think is surprising?

2220
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 1: I mean Carolina could be one of the worst teams too,

2221
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: By the way.

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Speaker 8: I think Carolina is decent. Yeah yeah, Now they're gonna

2223
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 8: have a breaking in a rookie quarterback, so I don't

2224
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 8: know how many games are gonna win, but they have

2225
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 8: some talent. Surprisingly good team I don't.

2226
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think Jacksonville.

2227
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 8: I think people are expecting Cargo Bears.

2228
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 1: Really Okay, wow, all right, that's a good one. What

2229
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: about Packers? Speaking of I.

2230
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 8: Think I think the Packers are good, yeah, in a

2231
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 8: terrible conference.

2232
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 1: Best offense, he says, the Chargers.

2233
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 8: Best offense. I don't know. Man, I think I think that's.

2234
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 1: Proven best defense, he says, the Packers.

2235
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 8: I mean, here's where you want to be. I want

2236
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:48,719
Speaker 8: to be ho horrific Patriots.

2237
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 4: I like that Philly front.

2238
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 8: Yeah I do too.

2239
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 1: Uh, he says. Also, what is your general level of

2240
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 1: interest in the rest of the league this season? Like

2241
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 1: how excited are you to watch non Patriots games. I

2242
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: feel the least interested in this season as I have

2243
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 1: in a long time, excluding the pandemic season.

2244
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 8: See, I go the opposite. When the Patriots are really good,

2245
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 8: I'm not all that interested in what anybody else is doing,

2246
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 8: And when they're not, my interest is higher.

2247
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm interested. I'm interested. I mean I brought

2248
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 4: up Jacksonville. I am I'm curious to see those teams, like,

2249
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 4: you know, teams on the rise that are, you know,

2250
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Speaker 4: trying to take a next step and have a good

2251
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 4: young quarterback. Like that's what interests me is is you know,

2252
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 4: and of course Kansas City, are they gonna be able

2253
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 4: to hang on and continue.

2254
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 1: Their high level of play?

2255
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Speaker 4: But but I think Jacksonville's is the team I'm curious

2256
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 4: to watch. AFC South Fields kind of like it's there

2257
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 4: for the taking if they if they're able to put

2258
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 4: it together and it just might kind of, you know,

2259
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 4: start to alter the power structure in the IIC a

2260
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 4: little bit. And who is that Jacksonville?

2261
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they're the odds on favorite again to

2262
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 8: repeat in that division, but I don't know how good

2263
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 8: they are.

2264
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's that's why I'm kind of like, you know,

2265
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 4: with Ridley in the mix with that, like.

2266
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 8: There's there's two bad teams in that division and with

2267
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 8: Houston and the Colts, and I think Tennessee will be okay. Yeah,

2268
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 8: and I I think Jacksonville is the best. Now you

2269
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 8: have to prove that you're worthy of that.

2270
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 4: That's yeah, that's just kind of that's what I'm interested in.

2271
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 4: You know, are they are they able to be? I

2272
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 4: mean even the last year with the playoff game with

2273
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 4: them against the Chargers, you know, that's kind of a

2274
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 4: coming out moment potentially of of hate it all of

2275
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 4: a sudden turning around. We'll see if they can carried over.

2276
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: Uh David and Bethlehem, says Thornton is in the next

2277
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 1: the next to go, can't block not good? Laterally speed

2278
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 1: only when untouched. NFL is not yet a flag football league.

2279
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 8: Did he just say, Thorntonton can't block.

2280
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, no kidding, So yeah, it's one hundred and nothing.

2281
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, like I didn't block. I don't draft my wide

2282
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 8: receivers to block.

2283
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,480
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's unfortunate. Offensive line has sided.

2284
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 1: A little, breaking, well breaking, according to Jacket and Aba.

2285
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 1: He says, Yahoo is reporting the Patriots have cut Chasing Hines.

2286
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 8: Yes, we reported that about forty five.

2287
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh we did. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought

2288
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 1: he was good.

2289
01:45:58,040 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 4: Mike just mentioned it with my words.

2290
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: I thought he was getting good, good reviews here, good enough.

2291
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 1: I guess, Yeah, duncan.

2292
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:05,839
Speaker 4: Hunh three rookies.

2293
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 8: I mean it's like Jake Andrews, you know, like gotta

2294
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 8: cut last year's draft. Pitts cut this year's draft. Tells

2295
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 8: you you had a great draft.

2296
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: You got to keep them all that last year's draft

2297
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: is Jack says, Is anyone else concerned with Adrian Clem's

2298
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 1: history of leaving the Steelers team halfway through the season

2299
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:26,719
Speaker 1: when he's heading into another difficult situation, not necessarily saying

2300
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 1: he's going to leave again, but maybe says something about

2301
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 1: his lack of ability to tough out a less than

2302
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: ideal situation. I don't know what the circumstances.

2303
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 8: I don't If I thought that he left Pittsburgh because

2304
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh was getting hard, I'd be worried about it. Yeah,

2305
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 8: I don't think that's why, right. I think he got

2306
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 8: offered a job that he felt was better at Oregon.

2307
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: Let's see two part question from Jesse and Dayton, Ohio.

2308
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: First part, I see the trades going down for players

2309
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:56,800
Speaker 1: like Isaiah Simmons. For seventh, we see all these athletes

2310
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 1: getting graded for peanuts. Why do you think we never

2311
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 1: make these raides. We make a lot of those trades. Actually, yeah,

2312
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, I just do a little. I think the

2313
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: picture guys who never really did much and we'd give

2314
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: them nothing, And.

2315
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 8: I think they commuted their fair shared trades over the years.

2316
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 8: But I mean, yeah, I don't know.

2317
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: Second part. I'm moving in the next two years. My

2318
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:21,679
Speaker 1: wife will be done with medical school and we're looking

2319
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 1: at different places. I'd love to move up north near Boston,

2320
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 1: but my wife doesn't want a crazy commute. What are

2321
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 1: your opinions of the commute to work intoor? Good areas

2322
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: to live near Boston?

2323
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,800
Speaker 4: Well, if she wants to take the train, you can

2324
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 4: come live live near Foxboro.

2325
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,560
Speaker 8: There's it's a nice commuter rail right into the I

2326
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 8: need more information where are you working, where you're working?

2327
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 4: What you go to go to the back bay. You

2328
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 4: gotta go to South State.

2329
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: I mean if you're staying in Dayton, Ohio.

2330
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a tough commute.

2331
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 6: I agree.

2332
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 1: For the kids are back, Evan and Tamara are back.

2333
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 4: Wow, first one of the years.

2334
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 1: All right, the floor is yours.

2335
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,839
Speaker 3: First of all, That's awesome that we have the practice

2336
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 3: jingle back. I'm excited. That means we're getting closer. So

2337
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:16,400
Speaker 3: a little bit of absences and the grousing out there.

2338
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 3: The grousing out there today was there was sixty seven

2339
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 3: players on the field. We know that sixty nine guys,

2340
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 3: including the sixteen man practice squad, are going to be here.

2341
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,839
Speaker 3: So I think we have a pretty good idea roughly

2342
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:31,640
Speaker 3: of who the guys are that are going to be

2343
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 3: on the team based off of practice today. So absences

2344
01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 3: and I know a few of these guys have already

2345
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 3: been reported as cut or whatever. Nick Folk, Isaiah Bolden,

2346
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 3: Taekwon Thornton, JJ Taylor, Chasing Hines, Riley, Reeve, Connor McDermott,

2347
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 3: and Anthony Ferkser, so Folk and Chase and Hines have

2348
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 3: already been reported gone, and Ferkser was just reported that

2349
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 3: he's been cut by the Patriots as well. So JJ

2350
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 3: Taylor seems to be the other name in that list

2351
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 3: that might have gotten cut in time. Montgomery was there

2352
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 3: and as was Kevin Harris. So either whether it's practice

2353
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 3: squad for Kevin Harris or active roster, looks like those

2354
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 3: two guys are here and JJ Taylor is not.

2355
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 8: That's interesting. I would have thought they would have. Uh well,

2356
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 8: I mean you could see he might be on the

2357
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 8: practice squad too. But and Thornton some people said, was

2358
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 8: up on the upper field or something. Taekwon Thornton.

2359
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Taekwon Thornton was, you know, up there with the

2360
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 3: we don't get into the upper field stuff too much.

2361
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 8: No, but I just like, like, if he's not there

2362
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 8: at all, you know you wanted it, but someone saw him. Yeah,

2363
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 8: I mean I don't think there's anything terribly surprising there.

2364
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 5: And yeah, and Calvin Anderson was there today.

2365
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Calvin Anderson was there. And the two new tackles

2366
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 3: were also there tomorrow. Douglas no longer in red, which

2367
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 3: is which is good, and him and Booty were both

2368
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 3: there and uh so.

2369
01:49:55,400 --> 01:50:00,600
Speaker 1: So we're back to just one person from each outlet. No,

2370
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,440
Speaker 1: you can have multiple Okay.

2371
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah you can. But I think the biggest thing just

2372
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 3: out of this list is just, uh, you know, some

2373
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 3: of these guys, like for instance, Malie Cunningham was at practice.

2374
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 3: Now does that mean that they're hoping to get him

2375
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 3: back on the practice squad so he's going to be

2376
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 3: around or did he make the team?

2377
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 8: Right? He said, there was sixty seven, sixty seven guys.

2378
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 8: That's still fourteen guys out there that you guys saw

2379
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 8: that won't be on the fifty three man roster. It's

2380
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 8: still a lot.

2381
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 4: Yes, must be weird practicing and then feeling like this

2382
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 4: might be.

2383
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 13: It for me.

2384
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 8: Well, that's the whole timing with the premiere that Fred

2385
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 8: and I were talking about. It used to be extremely

2386
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 8: uncomfortable because there's potentially guys that are there that oh,

2387
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 8: by the way, you just got claimed on waivers or whatever.

2388
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 6: You know.

2389
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 5: Right, Donald was talking about that this morning when I

2390
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 5: was in her office. She said, like, even like trades

2391
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 5: that have happened like today that the guys have come

2392
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 5: in like whatever they've wore, like flying in here they

2393
01:50:57,360 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 5: were to the premiere Wow, because they still had.

2394
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 1: To still have to come Wow. Sal writes in who

2395
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: do you think is a dark horse candidate next in

2396
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 1: line to get an extension with the team. I'll take

2397
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 1: a gander at the crystal ball and say it's going

2398
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 1: to be Anthony Jennings. He's been a team first, guy

2399
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 1: who keeps his mouth shut, does all the dirty work,

2400
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 1: and doesn't accumulate all the fancy stats, not to mention

2401
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 1: he won't be breaking the bank. I think all the

2402
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: signs are there based on players they usually tend to

2403
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: keep around.

2404
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 4: Gone, We'll sign Jennings though that that seems a checks

2405
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 4: for the That's just.

2406
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 3: It's Anthony Jennings because he's affordable, right, Like, that's that's

2407
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 3: what we're going off of here. All the rest of

2408
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 3: that stuff, because God forbid, we pay Kyle Duggar to

2409
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 3: stick around. Nope, can't do.

2410
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 4: That, draft Marty Mapu, I hate that it has to

2411
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 4: be like that though, like affordable, Yeah, that's uh.

2412
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 3: I still think if you're them, you have to put

2413
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 3: an offer in front of Kyle Duggart before week one,

2414
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 3: whether he's signed it or not. As a totally different conversation,

2415
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 3: but you have to at least try like they did

2416
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 3: with you know, Shaq Mason and John Jones and other guys.

2417
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 1: Should I read a negative email about Hardy? Sure, Okay,

2418
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: I'll make sure Noah in Chicago. First, thank you for everything.

2419
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 1: This is my favorite podcast to listen to, and as

2420
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 1: a Patriots transplant, your show really keeps me connected to

2421
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 1: all things Patriots. Second, I wanted to thank you guys

2422
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: for bringing Evan on the show. It's been awesome listening

2423
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: to his thoughts and opinions, and I really appreciate the

2424
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: insight he provides. Third, not to be rude, but is

2425
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 1: Hardy on the chopping block? I know he's a friend

2426
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: of the show, but the pre and post game shows

2427
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 1: have become largely about soothing or feeding Hardy's ego, and

2428
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: he offers little actual information about the team or the game.

2429
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 1: It's so frustrated. Wow, we should bring this accurate Hardy

2430
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 1: to I don't know if Hardy has an ego. I think,

2431
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 1: if anything in this room, I think if anything, he's

2432
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: got inferior play.

2433
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 8: Yes, I would agree.

2434
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

2435
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's a very busy guy. He's got ninety

2436
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 1: eight point five and he does serious. He's got the

2437
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:13,719
Speaker 1: music show, you know, so he's got golf, the golf

2438
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 1: show that he does show. But he gets free stuff

2439
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 1: for that, so I'm a little jealous. He gets clubs

2440
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: he took care of. Yes, I did custom p HG clubs.

2441
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 8: He gave you clubs?

2442
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: No, he got those he got free and I got

2443
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: his leftovers. Oh did you?

2444
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 8: He said he gave me a set of irons?

2445
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 1: Nice? What kind?

2446
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 8: I don't know. I didn't look at him yet.

2447
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 1: You don't even look at him.

2448
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 8: No, we just the other night when we were leave,

2449
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 8: when he put him in my.

2450
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 1: Trunk, so you have you're not even curious to what

2451
01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 1: they are.

2452
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 8: No, I'll look at him when I get a chance.

2453
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: I would want to know what kind of clubs I

2454
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: got some new clubs? Are you excited? I've been working

2455
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 1: on the set of irons.

2456
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 4: Just rolling around in the back of his car, right

2457
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 4: a bag.

2458
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: I'd want to know, like the Calloways, the aspect that

2459
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 1: from him, not you, I expect, you know, like i'd

2460
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 1: be excited to get a new set of eyes.

2461
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 3: Mike, how's your putting?

2462
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 5: Hell?

2463
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 4: No, I just I used to go off a little bit,

2464
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 4: but I just I'm not the time, the time, the time,

2465
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 4: A dedicated guy.

2466
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's got blogs.

2467
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: A lot of times.

2468
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 4: I've said before when we lived in California, we had

2469
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 4: a Part three near my house that in the Part

2470
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 4: three nine hole really nice. It was great, short, easy

2471
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 4: to play, didn't have to hit the drivers or anything

2472
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 4: like that. You could just go on with a nine

2473
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 4: at the wedge. And I love that kind of go.

2474
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:36,919
Speaker 1: Over under before the deadline today. Number of trades, hey point.

2475
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 8: Another one after so we count.

2476
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 1: Another trade.

2477
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna say they're done. Three trades.

2478
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 4: I think is enough.

2479
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll say under.

2480
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 1: I say, I say over.

2481
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 8: Now, you didn't say like claiming guys off.

2482
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's gonna be tons of that. Yeah,

2483
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, you know, a straight trade asset for

2484
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 1: asset one.

2485
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 4: How many players start for the Patriots in Week one

2486
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 4: that are not currently on or not currently let's just

2487
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 4: say as of the last preseason game, we're not on

2488
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 4: the roster.

2489
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 3: The active raw st. Yeah it was Calvin Anderson.

2490
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 4: That's that's okay too, like one. But I'm saying to

2491
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 4: their guys that were on other teams for training camp

2492
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 4: that you think are going to start. I don't think so,

2493
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 4: and i'd include those two tackles as potentially I don't think.

2494
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 4: I don't think any of them.

2495
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: No.

2496
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 3: I think Calvin Anderson might. But he's kind of the

2497
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 3: right tackle. We were talking about that because he we

2498
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 3: saw him exclusively a left tackle in the spring, and

2499
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 3: he's mostly played on the left side in Denver as well.

2500
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 3: But you would think week one you're gonna have to

2501
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 3: platoon him. I don't think he can go wire to

2502
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 3: wire without any training camp or preseason, so switching out,

2503
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 3: like would you would you flip it just to I

2504
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 3: don't think so. That's too many moving parts. So I

2505
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 3: alould think that he would be on the right side

2506
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:56,880
Speaker 3: and maybe he platoons it with one of the new

2507
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 3: guys or city so or something like that.

2508
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 4: Wait, what was the grousing in the Get.

2509
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 3: To the gro Oh? No, the grousing was just about

2510
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 3: you know who's there?

2511
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 9: Who?

2512
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 6: You know?

2513
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 3: It was this guy practiced and you.

2514
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 1: Know we'll get the list and everyone.

2515
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 3: Find well, it's you know in the grousing's defense. Okay,

2516
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 3: when you when you have to write, when you have

2517
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 3: to write an instant analysis of the of the team,

2518
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 3: the job to be and and they take until eight

2519
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 3: o'clock at night to set out the press release of

2520
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 3: who was cut and that that that's fair. It's it's

2521
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 3: a legit, right.

2522
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say that the time

2523
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 4: frame was too short of access to view, that you

2524
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 4: couldn't get through.

2525
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 3: I mean it was so there was a little bit

2526
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:49,879
Speaker 3: of Bill grousing because Bill gets up to the podium

2527
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 3: and says, we have a lot of balls in the

2528
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 3: air or whatever it is that he said. The second

2529
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 3: he walks off the podium, Nick Folk gets traded, Calvin

2530
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 3: Anderson comes off of n F. I like the balls

2531
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 3: started to drop, Like the time that was very impeccable.

2532
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 5: It was like immediately after he left the room.

2533
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean it could have you know, it could

2534
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 1: have happened while he was walking there and he didn't

2535
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 1: actually know until.

2536
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 4: He's off he's off the podium. Go ahead, pull pull

2537
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 4: the trigger.

2538
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 3: I took it from literally bears probably in the room.

2539
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 1: Like go spiing. Fresno says, no one Chicago can go

2540
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: get bent already absolutely contributes solid and extensive analysis in

2541
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: the pre and postgame shows. He's also hilarious and gives

2542
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 1: good krusty he does. He does a good crusty the clown.

2543
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 1: He does that really well. And this is a big

2544
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 1: season for him because he's a big Detroit Lions fan,

2545
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 1: so he's got high hopes.

2546
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 8: That's one of the reasons why I picked them as

2547
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 8: my disappointing.

2548
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 4: To Ah, he gave you his irons. You haven't even

2549
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 4: looked at him, and you're already needling.

2550
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: I know. Did you at least thank him?

2551
01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 6: Of course?

2552
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 1: What did you just like toss some into the thing

2553
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 1: without even looking?

2554
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:05,440
Speaker 8: He said, So we went. We went to play last week.

2555
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 8: We played at this club, at his club, his club,

2556
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 8: mister Hardy Bushwood. There was a lot of mister Hardy.

2557
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 8: So as we were playing and he said, you know,

2558
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 8: I have a set in my garage that that I'm

2559
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 8: not using. And I was like, you don't need to

2560
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:22,680
Speaker 8: do that, Like I don't you know. He's like, no, listen,

2561
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,160
Speaker 8: they literally do not get used. They're just sitting there.

2562
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 8: Take them. You know, you might rather than go out

2563
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 8: and buy a sad or whatever. I was like, if

2564
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 8: you're really never ever using these, by all me, I

2565
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:36,120
Speaker 8: was very thankful.

2566
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 1: He could have sold them.

2567
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 8: He absolutely could.

2568
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 4: Looking for new clubs, and you asked hardy about the

2569
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 4: ones you who would have looked at them instantly, not

2570
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 4: just like it's a dead body at two.

2571
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 8: O'clock in the morning, and I didn't give a quick

2572
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 8: look at the reins when they go and there, She's like,

2573
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 8: you gotta eat.

2574
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 1: That was like a week That was like a week

2575
01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 1: ago Friday night. Yeah, so between now and then, you're

2576
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 1: not even curious what kind of clubs are in your

2577
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 1: in your trunk.

2578
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 8: I feel like, well, to me, it doesn't matter because

2579
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 8: I don't know enough about the clubs to say, oh,

2580
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:08,520
Speaker 8: they are too sos like I.

2581
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 1: Don't know, so then why not just keep using the

2582
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 1: clubs you have?

2583
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 8: It's minor from nineteen seventy three.

2584
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 4: They're like the blades, correct your woods are actually made of? Would?

2585
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 1: No, I haven't I have for Simmons.

2586
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 8: I have a new driver. But the irons are legitimately

2587
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 8: like an original set of pings.

2588
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 1: They're like rusty.

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Speaker 8: Getting there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, iron sharp.

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Speaker 24: But then all the more reason to be excited about it.

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Speaker 24: I am excited about them what they are. But when

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Speaker 24: I play, I'll let you know. You know how they felt, my.

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Speaker 1: Guess, and this is what I next spring, he'll find out.

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Speaker 8: No I play, I play, I play every week. My guess,

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Speaker 8: and this is what I told Hardy, is it's user error.

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Speaker 8: It's not the club like I understand. The clubs are

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Speaker 8: really old. Yeah, and even if I hit them all

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Speaker 8: exactly right, they would not be as good as you know,

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Speaker 8: normal clubs. But my guess is, I'm not going to

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Speaker 8: hit the new ones any better they hit the old

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Speaker 8: ones because it's me. It's my fault.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the problem, it's you.

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Speaker 1: Correct, So then he should have given the clubs to me.

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Speaker 8: Well, I've played with you.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, probably right, it's not probably.

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Speaker 4: The country club game.

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Speaker 1: I've gotten better for you.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to play you in tennis though, better

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Speaker 3: bring your sunscreened no golf.

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Speaker 8: I've gotten better. All right.

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Speaker 1: That'll be uh it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, we'll be back on Thursday.

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Speaker 8: This will be the last week. Yeah that we will

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Speaker 8: only be giving you two shows.

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Speaker 6: Right then we go to.

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Speaker 1: Three three a week and all video starting next week,

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Speaker 1: all shows all video, I apologie, including Catch twenty two

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Speaker 1: and including the playbook with John Rook, all video. So

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Speaker 1: it's a whole new season I don't know about the team,

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Speaker 1: but we're upgrading here, all right. Talk to you Thursday.

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