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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let me bring in Tim McMahon, the ESPN

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Speaker 1: NBA reporter who has done a great job keeping an

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Speaker 1: eye on the James Harden situation, and Tim, thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. If I had you on yesterday at this time,

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Speaker 1: what would you have said was going to happen in

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Speaker 1: Houston with James Harden? Well, I would have said that

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Speaker 1: a trade is closer to happening than not. You know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think the trade was close to being completed or

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Speaker 1: they knew that they were close to a trade, whether

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Speaker 1: it was going to be Philly or Brooklyn. And then

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Speaker 1: Harden's performance Tuesday night, by performance, I don't mean five

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Speaker 1: to sixteen for the floor I made the postgame press

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Speaker 1: conference was basically his way of saying, Hey, I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: much to the other side of the bridge, so let

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Speaker 1: me just burn this and you know, you guys can

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Speaker 1: figure out the rest. Do you think he knew he

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Speaker 1: was going to be traded? It was a trade was

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Speaker 1: eminent with what he because I said the same thing

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Speaker 1: yesterday morning when I heard that, I said, that's his

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Speaker 1: exit interview. He's basically saying, see, you do you think

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Speaker 1: he knew at that time that he was going to

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Speaker 1: be traded. Well, I think he knew that it was

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Speaker 1: very close to happening, and he wanted to make sure

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Speaker 1: it happened, you know. So again, whether it was Philly

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Speaker 1: or Brooklyn, he was fine with either place. Obviously, he

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Speaker 1: wanted to get out of Houston. Those are the top

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Speaker 1: two teams on his list, and I think that was

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Speaker 1: his way of saying, Hey, I'm done here. You figure

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Speaker 1: out which one of those two teams I'm going to,

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Speaker 1: but I'm done with the rock It's a tricky legacy

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Speaker 1: with James Harden. I don't know if he cares about

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Speaker 1: his legacy, but you wrote a column on this exact

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Speaker 1: topic here. How do you think Houston will remember James Harden?

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Speaker 1: That it is? It's tricky, complicated, whatever you want to say. Look,

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Speaker 1: with all due respect to Moses Malone, I would say

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Speaker 1: James Harden is the second best player in franchise history,

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Speaker 1: behind only Ki Malajuan. Obviously, the huge difference, there's a

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Speaker 1: kim of LaJuan delivered two championships to Houston. Harden was

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Speaker 1: never able to get the Rockets even to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: And I mean it didn't work out with Dwight Howard.

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Speaker 1: That went up in smoke. Chris Paul went up in smoke.

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Speaker 1: Even quicker Russell Westbrook his old friend from LA and

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Speaker 1: old OKC teammate one year and they were ready to

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Speaker 1: both you know, go at the places and it and

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Speaker 1: then just the way it ended, obviously that's going to

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Speaker 1: be bitter at the same At the same time, it

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Speaker 1: was eight mostly great years individually, brilliant years from James

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Speaker 1: Harden gave the Rockets a chance to at least be

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Speaker 1: contenders for most of that time. And it's funny because

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Speaker 1: Rockets fans, for so much that time, we're kind of

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Speaker 1: defending James Harden, who was the superstar the rest of

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Speaker 1: the league's fans loved to hate, who hated his style

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Speaker 1: playing all that. Rockets fans spent so much time kind

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Speaker 1: of getting this guy back, and their reward is no

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Speaker 1: championship parade and pretty much a slap in the face

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Speaker 1: on the way on town. We'll talk about the Nets

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Speaker 1: and getting James Harden and what that means, but how

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Speaker 1: did the Rockets do in this trade? Well, look, this

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Speaker 1: obviously was about trying to set themselves up for a rebuild.

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Speaker 1: And the Rockets did not get the young franchise cornerstone

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Speaker 1: that they insisted they needed to get in a James

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Speaker 1: Harden deal. They could have, they could have had Ben Simmons,

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Speaker 1: but they've made the decision that they would rather have just,

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Speaker 1: I mean a historic bundle of unprotected first round picks.

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Speaker 1: And so look those picks. Kevin Durant, James Harden, Kyrie

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Speaker 1: Irving will be long gone and the Rockets are still

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Speaker 1: going to be making picks that are the New York

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Speaker 1: just the bundle of picks and say, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's a historic hall. And I think realistically, as far

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Speaker 1: as the team intern a rebuild, that's a good return.

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Speaker 1: But I don't even know if Victor Oladipo is going

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Speaker 1: to be there by season's end. That oh right, no

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Speaker 1: question about that. Look Victor Oladipo, you can tell why

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Speaker 1: they flipped Carris Lavert for Victory Ladipo. I think the

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Speaker 1: first thing you look at as the contracts Lavert is

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Speaker 1: When get he's going to get paid because there's you know,

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Speaker 1: that free agency class has been picked pretty thin. Or

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Speaker 1: I like Carris Lavert a lot, and I got a

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Speaker 1: that when Kyrie was injured and that younger team kind

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Speaker 1: of came to life there. And even Jared Allen in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: he's an energy guy, team guy. Um, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: we don't need rim protectors. But I thought this is

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Speaker 1: sort of those you know, after the dust settles, people go,

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Speaker 1: oh that's right. You know, Indiana looks pretty good. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, when Warren comes back, they have Turner, they

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Speaker 1: And then with Cleveland getting Jared Allen, I think he's

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Speaker 1: think both of those teams that were brought into the

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Speaker 1: deal really benefited and and for Indiana, Victor Oladipo was

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Speaker 1: not going to be back there next year, so this

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Speaker 1: is a chance to get a guy who can be

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Speaker 1: the Rockets did not consider him to be a franchise

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Speaker 1: corner stone, and I think that's accurate. But you know,

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Speaker 1: at a place like Indiana, I think he fits very

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Speaker 1: well with Malcolm Brogden in that back court, you know,

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Speaker 1: with with Sabonus is really kind of their franchise player.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's you know, the contract is reasonable

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Speaker 1: those guys can kind of develop into a Blazer's East

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Speaker 1: progress from them. But if you're going to start two

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Speaker 1: him this summer, but at twenty two, he really fits

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Speaker 1: with what they're building in Cleveland. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: to the Nets now. On and off the court, we're

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Speaker 1: talking to Tim McMann ESPN NBA reporter. Where's Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 1: and how does he fit into all of this? Last

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Speaker 1: I saw him, he was on ZOOMA. Look, I think

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Speaker 1: that is reasonable to look at this trade in some

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Speaker 1: ways as Kyrie Irving insurance. And you know, the Nets

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Speaker 1: terms of the draft compensation. That's what got this over

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Speaker 1: the finish line. They amped that up. Since Kyrie has

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Speaker 1: been you know whatever, you want to call it a wall.

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Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Kevin Durant, even coming off the Achilles

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Speaker 1: is a bona fide superstar in his prime. You've basically

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Speaker 1: at least you really want to. If you're the Nets

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Speaker 1: maximize your opportunity to win a championship with him, You

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Speaker 1: need to have not just a costar, but another superstar

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Speaker 1: to pair with him. To do that, they bring in

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Speaker 1: James Harden. He's say what you want. He's a dude

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Speaker 1: who can efficiently put up thirty five points in eight

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Speaker 1: this point, what they get Kyrie, you can almost look

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Speaker 1: first of all, I don't know when, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm coming back to work. But when he even if

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Speaker 1: Well guess what, You're going to have to sit for

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Speaker 1: a while because you blatantly violated the league's health and

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Speaker 1: safety protocols, just like Harden had to. You know, he

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Speaker 1: didn't end up missing a game because he helped get

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Speaker 1: a game postponed, right, We're so casual about this, tim

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Speaker 1: like Kyrie Irving is missing right in front of our

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Speaker 1: very eyes. It's it's bizarre, but you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie kind of obviously he's the guy who marches the

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Speaker 1: like I understood with Harden Hardened, Let's be honest, he

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Speaker 1: Kyrie's intent is here because he's where he wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: He chose to go to Brooklyn. He's playing with Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: is obviously it's not a situation where he's unhappy about

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Speaker 1: his employer. So you know, at some point Kyrie Irving

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Speaker 1: will offer at least his version of an explanation. I

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Speaker 1: have to figure out whether they actually meet anything. How

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Speaker 1: do you think the Lakers view this trade. Should they

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Speaker 1: be nervous? Honestly, I don't think. I think the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: last night's game, he basically, yeah, well it looks good

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Speaker 1: I think the Lakers feel like if they're healthy and

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Speaker 1: if they're playing up to their potential, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: who they run up against. I mean, Lebron in year

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Speaker 1: the league. He's definitely in that conversation, and Anthony Davis

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Speaker 1: is in that conversation. They've got a night. They upgraded

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Speaker 1: the supporting cast around those guys. This is after they

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Speaker 1: cruised through the playoffs to a championship last year. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Lakers are losing any sleep over what

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn did. Maybe they meet in the finals, maybe they don't.

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Speaker 1: But again, it's it's not disrespect to the NETS. I

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Speaker 1: just think the Lakers probably look at the situation and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're the best team in the league and nothing has changed.

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Speaker 1: Did the seventy sixers win yesterday? I think Doc Rivers

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Speaker 1: if this was up to Daryl Morey, James Harden would

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Speaker 1: be in Philadelphia and Ben Simmons would be in Houston now.

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Speaker 1: But I look, the Sixers have played very well this season.

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Speaker 1: The Simmons ebid thing, with the new pieces around him,

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Speaker 1: to a consensus decision within that Sixer's organization that trading

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Speaker 1: young Ben Simmons for thirty one year old James Harden

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Speaker 1: have been a good move for the six or so.

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Speaker 1: Change your opinion, not at all. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna work. I think it's gonna be. I thought they

425
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: bought him in because they wasn't sure what was gonna

426
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Speaker 1: happen with Kyrie. They bought him in as the insurance policy.

427
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: And now I think it's gonna be fascinating watching those

428
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: three guys play together. If they all play together, I mean,

429
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 1: we have no idea what's going on with Kyrie Ree.

430
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: But no, I don't think it's gonna work at all

431
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: because those other guys don't bring in their diversity to

432
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Speaker 1: the table. Those other two guys, they are offensive players,

433
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: they don't play defense, they don't rebound, so there's only

434
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Speaker 1: one basketball. I think it's got zero champs are working.

435
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: But you also, and you know this where it feels

436
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: like Kade could get thirty on sixteen shots. You know

437
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: he would find a way get to the line, and

438
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: he can be economical. The other guys are volume shooters,

439
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: certainly harden Is, and then I just wonder what kind

440
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: of offense do you run when you have three alphas

441
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 1: like that. Well, I think that's why I don't think

442
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. I think it's really gonna be like

443
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: they just gonna take turns and I don't think that's

444
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna work because, like I say, other than Katie, the

445
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: other two guys, they're not gonna Like when Katie went

446
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: to Golden State, He's like, Okay, I'll play defense and

447
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: I'll rebound the ball. I don't see Kyrie and James

448
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: doing that. I think when Katie got the ball, they're

449
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: just gonna be standing around. And so I don't think,

450
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: like I say, listen, I don't think it's gonna work

451
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Speaker 1: at all. It's gonna be fun watching because how once

452
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: seeing how James and Kyrie handled the New York media,

453
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: to me, is gonna be like the most fascinated part

454
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Speaker 1: of this whole thing. But if if we know this,

455
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: the nets have to know this, then how is this

456
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 1: going to work? So what are they thinking that? Why

457
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: is this gonna work in their minds? And we have,

458
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, a big question mark attached to it? Well,

459
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 1: because I think it's what Katy wanted to do. I mean,

460
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: Kady wanted Kyrie. Now I think he realize it now, like, yeah,

461
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: this is not going to work. I better bring James

462
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: in here as an insurance policy. That's what I think happened.

463
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: But clearly Katy is running the organization, So I think

464
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: this was about what he wanted. What do you think

465
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: Steve Nash is thinking today, I'm gonna get to blame

466
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: if this team don't work, They're gonna kill me, like

467
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: you know. And I really think they put Steve in

468
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: a really awkward position because Steve Nash is a help

469
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: obviously was a great player and he's a great guy.

470
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Speaker 1: But you got you got one guy comes out and says, hey,

471
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: we don't need a coach, and now you bring in James,

472
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: who clearly shows up when he wants to. So I

473
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: think it really puts Steve between a rock at a

474
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Speaker 1: hard place. I mean, because listen, if they have to

475
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Speaker 1: get rid of somebody, it's gonna be Steve Nash, but

476
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be James, James or Kad. But you

477
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: think I think Kyrie is the wild card and this

478
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: whole thing, to be honest with you, Yeah, that's what

479
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: I was going to bring up. Do you think that

480
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: they're ready to move on from Kyrie? Because I don't

481
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: know what everybody's kind of casual about where Kyrie is

482
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: and what he's doing. I don't know if he wants

483
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: to play, and he doesn't sound like he's really that

484
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: interested in coming back anytime soon. Well, I think this

485
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: is the reason they made the trade. I think the

486
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: Nets have lawed faith in Kyrie they like and actually

487
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: I think Kevin has law like no, I better bring

488
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Speaker 1: James in here, because listen, even without Kyrie, James and

489
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: kyd together it's pretty formidable. I mean, they're gonna be

490
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Speaker 1: just as good with the without Kyrie. So I think

491
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: Katie's like, yo, man, I can't trust this dude. He

492
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: shows up when he wants to. He's gonna do it

493
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: his own thing. I've got to bring James in. That's hey, hey, listen,

494
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: let's be something something straight. This is probably the greatest

495
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: insurance policy we ever seen in the NBA. How do

496
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: you feel if you're Ben Simmons today, Well, I think

497
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 1: he can relax now and realize that the Sixers this

498
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: is his team and Joel's team. We got no idea

499
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: who the best team in the Eastern Conference is. And

500
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: he's got to see being and Joel got to come

501
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: to the understanding that hey, you know what, we ran

502
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Speaker 1: our other coach out of town. He took he took

503
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Speaker 1: the sword foward for us. Now we got Doc It's

504
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: time for us to start doing our job. We're in

505
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: our prime right now. So I think him and Joel

506
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: got to take a look in the mirror and said, hey, listen,

507
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: we let him blame bred Brown, whether it was true

508
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: or not. We let them blame him. But now we

509
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: got Doc. We have to get our stuff together. You

510
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: think Lebron and ad are concerned about what the Nets

511
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: just did. No, I mean they're still the best duo. Listen,

512
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: there's nobody right now. If you get any fool of

513
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: jackass on your show today, we're all guessing about the Nets.

514
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody gonna get on here and tell you they

515
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: are the NBA favors right now. If they do that,

516
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: they don't know anything about basketball. I mean, we got

517
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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with your Dan. I said this

518
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Speaker 1: when you said this a few months ago. I would

519
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Speaker 1: love to be a fly on the wall because I

520
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: prayed that they got James hardened, because I want to

521
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: see this social experiment and it's gonna be fun, it's

522
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating, and it's in New York City. Do

523
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: you think the commissioner likes this deal? No, I think

524
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: that he don't. First of all Adam's amazing, but I

525
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: don't think he wants players running the league because because

526
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: because listen, let's get one thing, the commissioner all words

527
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: works for the owners. So I don't think. I mean,

528
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: there's only like three or four players who have this

529
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: type of power. But what they don't understand is when

530
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: you lose your superstars, you ruin franchises that used to

531
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: be a great you know, people say, well, some of

532
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: the teams won the championship. Yeah, but there were still

533
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: great players in other cities. And now we're making so

534
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: many cities irrelevance. And listen, let's I know one thing.

535
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for this, the collective bargaining agreement. When

536
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: these owners slap these boys back, it's gonna be very

537
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: fascinating because everybody's like, well, the players got all this power, yeah,

538
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: but they don't have all that money. And in the

539
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: four or five players who are agreed, they're gonna get

540
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: all that, they gonna get all their money, but these

541
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: guys underneath, they're gonna be hurt. In a few years.

542
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: What do you think Lebron would be worth if there

543
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: was new salary count? Well, I've always thought that was

544
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: a stupid argument. Dan, everybody's making money. Listen, if we

545
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: just gonna pay the superstars, we don't want to be

546
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: paying like three, three or four players, and everybody has

547
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: been making a million dollars. Let's say hypothetically Lebron with

548
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: worth six or seventy millions and not gonna pay everybody

549
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: else at least now we got think about it. There's

550
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: three guys on the nets gonna be making forty million

551
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: dollars and probably only one on the desert to be

552
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: making forty million dollars. And think about it. There's a

553
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: bunch of guys on the Lakers who make six to

554
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen million dollars. They only got to pay

555
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: in Lebron. So I hear guys talk about if there

556
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: was no salary cap. The salary cap worked for the

557
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: other players, not the great players. And let's do act

558
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: like the great players aren't getting complicated. James Harden makes

559
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: forty one million dollars a year. He's good. Same thing

560
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: with Katie and Kyrie. They both make forty million a year.

561
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: But if we're just gonna pay listen, Anthony Davis, Lebron,

562
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: Kad Steph, those guys to probably deserve to be paid

563
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: whatever they can be paid. But then we wouldn't be

564
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: able to pay anybody else because you're not gonna You're

565
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: not gonna pay all the other guys thirty forty million dollar.

566
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Speaker 1: You only need those stars. John Wall makes forty million

567
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: dollars a year. That's my point, Dan, And John Wall

568
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: is a good player. John Wall was a good player.

569
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Speaker 1: I don't want to disparage him. He's a good player.

570
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: But I hate the guys and I get on they

571
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: get on TV said well, if we had the free market,

572
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: well we can pay Lebron. But wait, okay, I'm gonna

573
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: pay Lebron one hundred million. Everybody else on the team

574
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: gonna make a million. What's the most you ever made

575
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: in your career? Five million dollars felt pretty rich, didn't you.

576
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: You know, Dan, I never hate on these young guys

577
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: for making money because I made more money than Doctor

578
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: j and Will Chamberlain and they were and Bill Russell,

579
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: and they were clearly much much better players than me.

580
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: But hey, it's a it's a it is what it is.

581
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I wish all these guys great success, and I hope

582
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: they saved their money. That's the most important thing. But

583
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: you can't ever worry about because because of inflation every generation. Well,

584
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what's gonna be interesting when the COVID

585
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: tax become due, because not just in basketball, there's gonna

586
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: be ramifications in every sport because the COVID thing is real.

587
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: And I think in the next three or four years

588
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: that COVID taxt is gonna come do. It's probably gonna

589
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: be what you said earlier. They're like, hey, you're the

590
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: guys are bombs. I'm gonna pay Lebron, I'm gonna pay

591
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: a d the restue guys gonna take the minimum. And

592
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: I think not just in basketball there, I think it's

593
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: gonna happen like that in every sport because these owners,

594
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: they didn't buy these teams to lose money. Happy New Year,

595
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: Good to see you. Hey, Dan, it's good to see

596
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: you guys. Man. I hope everybody's safe and healthy. This

597
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: COVID thing, man, that's been crazy. And you look good.

598
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: You look like I'm getting in shape, Dan, I promise.

599
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: That's my New year's resolution, to get my fat be

600
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm tired of being fat. It doesn't look good, it

601
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good. So that's my new year's resolution. I'm listening.

602
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm tired of wearing all black clothes. I want to

603
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: wear some. I want to wear some ladder colors this year.

604
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: That's my goal. I want to go on my other close,

605
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: not all black. What do you weigh now? H three thirty?

606
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: What's the most you weigh? Three fifty? What's shack way? Oh,

607
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: he'd be able if you get on the scale. It's

608
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: gonna be saying. It's gonna say one person at a time.

609
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's Shack. Is Shack four spins is? What

610
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: does he weigh? Four hundred? Oh yeah, hell yeah, Oh

611
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: my god, hell yeah. But do you know what to

612
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: think about it? I ain't fat. He's just the biggest

613
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: human being I've ever been around in my life. I mean,

614
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: you know you've been around that fact, they're never gonna

615
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: be fat. He just just he's just humongous. How did

616
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: you compete with that? You're six to four and a

617
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: half or whatever, and you competed with that? Man? It

618
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: just listen and me and Kevin McHale him said as

619
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: many times he was saying that. The first time he

620
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: saw Shack, he was standing beside Robert Parris. He says, yeah,

621
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: it's about time for us to fifth in, to get

622
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: out of Kevin kail tails that story all the time.

623
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: He said, the first time he saw Shakil, he was

624
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: Robert Parris. It's time for us to get him look

625
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: for another profession because these kids are too big now.

626
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: But you see Steve Nash be an MVP with his size.

627
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: It's Steph Curry like, that's what's amazing to us when

628
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: we see this and see how big guys are fast, strong. Yeah,

629
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, but listen, I didn't play against Will Chamberlin,

630
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: but other than should Kill and I guess Will Chamblin,

631
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: those were the only two guys who were bigger, stronger

632
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 1: than everybody else. I mean, listen, I played against guys

633
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: who were seven feet tall, but they didn't have should

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Speaker 1: Kill's athletic ability and things like that. You know, Mark

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Speaker 1: Eden was a hell of a player. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to think of Motombo, but those guys you the best,

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Speaker 1: like night and day. When you talk about athletic ability.

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Speaker 1: Mark Eaton was a hell of a shot block and

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Speaker 1: sold Mutombo. But if those guys were to get in

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Speaker 1: a foot race or jump in contest with Shaq, it

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Speaker 1: would be a no brainer. I mean that guy. That

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Speaker 1: guy was the most dominating, physically imposing guy ever played

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Speaker 1: against the scene in my life. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: when you played against another seven foot, like when I

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Speaker 1: played against Mkale who was seven feet or Parish. Those

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Speaker 1: guys were big, but they had they didn't have the

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Speaker 1: most amazing athletic ability. You know, just to see Shack

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Speaker 1: he's like leading the fast break, you know. He he's

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Speaker 1: so desperately wanted to be a point guard at times

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Speaker 1: and just be out there and running the running the

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Speaker 1: three on two break. Oh dude, I'm telling you to

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Speaker 1: be to be that big and that fast, it is

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Speaker 1: just crazy, Dan, I mean it really was. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you so always. Thanks for joining us,

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Speaker 1: and we hope to see you soon. Yes, sir, my

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Speaker 1: brother be safe. That's Charles Bartek TNT inside the NBA Analyst.

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Speaker 1: the co host, but in his mind he's basically the

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Speaker 1: host of First Things First on Fox Sports one and

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Speaker 1: the former Houston sports radio host Patrick Mahomes apologist and

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Speaker 1: maybe James Harden apologist and wanted to check in with

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Speaker 1: Nick Right who joins us now, Good morning Nick? What

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Speaker 1: on earth does Patrick Mahomes ever have to apologize for

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Speaker 1: not thinking everyone feel bad because he's too good? Like?

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Speaker 1: What I don't understand? Oh? I know, you've got Kansas

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Speaker 1: City beating who in the Super Bowl? Green Bay. It's

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Speaker 1: very chalky. It'll be the hey question for you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: would Rogers Mahomes be the greatest quarterback matchup in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Lever? We've had Montana Elway, we had Bradshaw

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Speaker 1: stallback a couple times, we had Breeze Manning. Would this

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Speaker 1: go to the top of that list? What say you? Dan? Patrick?

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Speaker 1: Is the matchup this weekend in New Orleans better than

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Speaker 1: that matchup even though it's not in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: historically Breeze and Brady, Well, that's very interesting if they

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Speaker 1: were both at their apex. Yes, but he Breeze and Brady, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you would have the greatest ever and then Breeze,

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Speaker 1: who is somewhere from five to nine. So yes, I

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Speaker 1: would say so, but because Brady and listen, Brady the

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Speaker 1: last five weeks has made me look like a total moron.

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Speaker 1: So he's been very, very good. But obviously he's not

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Speaker 1: as great as he once was, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: Breeze as close to as great as he once was.

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Speaker 1: It seems like Rogers somehow has reclaimed his peak and

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Speaker 1: Mahomes just keeps ascending and ascending. So I just think

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Speaker 1: it's kind of where they're at on the mountaintop, so

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Speaker 1: to speak. The most pressure on which player this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Going into the those left in the postseason, the most

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Speaker 1: pressure is on which player. I do think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Mahomes because they are the huge

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Speaker 1: or a double digit favored against the Browns, and so

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Speaker 1: I think a loss would be somewhat of an indict

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Speaker 1: on the way they played at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: I think that they put it in cruise control once

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Speaker 1: they essentially locked up the one seed. So aside from Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: I think there is massive pressure on Rogers because I

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Speaker 1: understand the Rams have the number one defense. I get it,

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's in Lambeau

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Speaker 1: and so if they lose that game, when he is

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Speaker 1: going to be the league MVP, when they're a touchdown

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Speaker 1: favorite in Lambo, it's gonna be twenty five degrees, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a tough one for him. I think Brady

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Speaker 1: and Breese are both kind of free rolling, and I

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Speaker 1: think Lamar and Josh Allen are somewhat free rolling because

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Speaker 1: they both got their first playoff win last week. They

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Speaker 1: both played really well last week, and they're young enough

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Speaker 1: that I don't think anyone's gonna kill the loser of

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Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, I'd probably go Rogers because I think

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Speaker 1: we're looking at the bigger picture of what one more

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Speaker 1: super Bowl would mean. And Mahomes has time breeze in Brady,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of if they win one grade,

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Speaker 1: but they're emeritus right now. I just think with Rogers,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you move up the ladder. I

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Speaker 1: think in people's minds when you add that second. Peyton

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Speaker 1: is one of those where Rogers then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, Farves only got one. So I would say,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Okay, if Rogers wins it,

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Speaker 1: if someone says, Aaron Rodgers is now unquestionably this is

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Speaker 1: so corny sports radio with God, I love it. Unquestionably

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Speaker 1: quarterback Mount Rushmore that he's minted there. So Brady is

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Speaker 1: locked in. I would argue Montana's locked in, and I

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Speaker 1: would argue Peyton Manning's locked in. I'm not counting Red

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Speaker 1: Grange and the guys who I don't know actually existed

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Speaker 1: outside of Peter King's memory, like I'm talking about like

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Speaker 1: the Mots last fifty years. Okay, at fourth spots open,

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Speaker 1: does Rogers slam that door shut if he gets it?

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Speaker 1: What if Breeze gets his second Well, that's the other

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Speaker 1: thing he could say, No, it's mine. I have the

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Speaker 1: two rings. So because the thing for Rogers and Breeze,

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Speaker 1: it's not just they both only have one ring, they

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Speaker 1: second ring. It was defense pushed, but he got the

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Speaker 1: Broncos to the Super Bowl the year he drew fifty

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Speaker 1: five touchdowns, right like that was all him getting there.

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Speaker 1: And he got a saint or a cult steam to

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl where he was the driving force that

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Speaker 1: when they didn't win it. So I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: for what hurt Rodgers and Breese. Isn't just the one ring,

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Speaker 1: it's also the one appearance. You know this, Dan, I'm

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Speaker 1: a Lebron James fan, So I think getting to the

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Speaker 1: championship is a massive accomplishment that must be respected, not denigrated,

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Speaker 1: even if you don't win it. And I brought up Lebron,

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Speaker 1: and I brought up you know when we get you know,

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Speaker 1: three great talents together. I think Chris Bosh is as

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Speaker 1: important with the Miami Heat success as Lebron and Wade are.

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Speaker 1: To this degree, he understood his role in every single night.

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Speaker 1: He didn't cause any problems. I'll be a spot up three.

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Speaker 1: You want me to play defense, rebund I'll do all

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Speaker 1: those things. Kevin love with what he did in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: He understood his role is that that third man in

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Speaker 1: has a really difficulty. What the Celtics did it, Gray

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Speaker 1: knew exactly what his role was there and so like

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Speaker 1: with here's the problem for the Nets. Let's just go

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Speaker 1: through their big Let's assume Kyrie comes back. Okay, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant can't be the third guy. He's second best player

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Speaker 1: in the whole league. He has to be the leading actor. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie is the third best guy. But what his skill

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Speaker 1: set is is not at all what the third best

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Speaker 1: what you're he isn't. His whole utility as a basketball

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Speaker 1: He's not a great passer, and he's a bad defender.

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Speaker 1: So the only guy whose game is suited to it,

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Speaker 1: and the only guy who's ever done it, is Hard Harden.

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Speaker 1: The only finals he ever made, he gave he was

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Speaker 1: the third best guy. He has led the league and assists.

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Speaker 1: He can be a great distributor. Now, James Harden has

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Speaker 1: claimed the only thing he cares about winning a championship.

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Speaker 1: Houston been over backwards to do everything for him. He

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Speaker 1: torched it on his way out in pursuit of a championship.

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Speaker 1: If that's true, if all he cares about is a championship,

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Speaker 1: then he is the guy that says I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go from being the greatest scorer of my generation and

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest scorers ever to twenty two points

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Speaker 1: per game. I don't know that he's going to do that,

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Speaker 1: but he's the only one who can do it, like

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Speaker 1: Kyrie can't do that or else. He's just not like

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to disrespect him, but his skill set

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Speaker 1: is so specific to having the ball in his hands

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Speaker 1: and scoring. Harden's the only guy who can do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he will. Even if he does,

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Speaker 1: that team is going to be horrifyingly bad defensible. That

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Speaker 1: teams I don't think gonna be good enough Dan. If

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Speaker 1: Kyrie is being a good soldier and they didn't lose

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Speaker 1: Den Wittie, do the Nets need to make this deal?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they needed to make it, But I

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Speaker 1: do think that there is a fear of the Lakers

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Speaker 1: that looms over the whole league. And I think it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if we don't have a big three, our big two

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Speaker 1: is not better than they're big two, Like Lebron's better

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Speaker 1: So even if we have death, the Lakers added death,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers have cohesion, so instead they're going in on

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Speaker 1: a third star and it is I do get it.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's the only teams that are beating Lebron post MAVs

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Speaker 1: have had three or four Hall of Famers on them,

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Speaker 1: So I understand the philosophy, but I just think that

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Speaker 1: if you're going to have to get through Joel Embiide

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Speaker 1: Jannis and then Anthony Davis and Lebron having do you

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Speaker 1: know the backup center for the nets is it's Jeff Green?

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Speaker 1: Do you have the backup power forward for the nets

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Speaker 1: is it's Jeff Green's identical twin brother, also named Jeff Green,

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Speaker 1: and the starter is DeAndre Jordan. To have no front

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Speaker 1: court rim protection, to me is a big problem, and

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Speaker 1: I just don't think I get why they did it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a big risk. Though Lebron's got there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of upside for Lebron if he would happen

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Speaker 1: to beat a team that had all three on it,

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Speaker 1: you know just how we would look at White he'd

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Speaker 1: beat you know that that talented team, Well yeah, I

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Speaker 1: a team with three you know, future League MVPs and Harden,

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Speaker 1: Russ and Katie. His next ring came against a team

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Speaker 1: with four future Hall of Famers and a two time

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Speaker 1: finals MVPN. People like, oh, Tim Duncan wasn't good that year.

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan was first Team All NBA that y're in,

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Speaker 1: Tony Parker the second team, and his third ring came

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Speaker 1: against a seventy three win team, and his fourth ring

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Speaker 1: came against you know, in the bubble and the pandemic

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Speaker 1: with no home games. So yeah, the fifth ring against

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Speaker 1: this team. I mean, at this point, it's all like

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Speaker 1: Lebron much like Brady competing with ghosts. The they're really

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Speaker 1: competing with each other for the title of greatest team

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Speaker 1: sport athlete ever because they both clearly announced themselves the

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Speaker 1: greatest player in their respective sports. But yeah, it'd be nice.

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Speaker 1: But I wonder about this, Nick, you bring up Brady,

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Speaker 1: and I see parallels with Brady and Lebron because they

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Speaker 1: got there and they did lose when they got there.

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Speaker 1: Whereas if Montana had six Super Bowl rings, just like

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Speaker 1: you know, Mike has six NBA titles and no losses,

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Speaker 1: would we have a different argument if Montana had six

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls no losses as opposed to Brady with six

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls and three losses. I think we would and

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Speaker 1: I think that is an indictment on the collective intelligence

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Speaker 1: of the country. I don't understand it. I've never ever

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Speaker 1: understood this idea that, you know what, Michael Jordan getting

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Speaker 1: bounced early and therefore keeping a pristine finals resume is

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Speaker 1: better than Lebron James at twenty two, scoring forty eight

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Speaker 1: against Detroit, carrying a team there and then losing like

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Speaker 1: his last year in Cleveland. Jeff Green second mentioned for

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Speaker 1: Jeff Green Dam Jeff Green was the second best player

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Speaker 1: on that cav Sea once Kevin Love went out, they

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Speaker 1: made the finals. The idea that we used that against him,

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Speaker 1: I've never understood, but a lot of people do. I

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't do it if it were the Olympics. Olympics,

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Speaker 1: we don't say, well, one guy has four goals and

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Speaker 1: the other guy has four goals and two silvers. We're

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Speaker 1: not like, well, those silver medals really hurt you. They're like, no,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good, that's impressive. We like silver medals. They're

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Speaker 1: not as good as golds, but they're better than no medals.

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Speaker 1: And I'm there with you. I you know the fact

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Speaker 1: that you get to play in a championship game as

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Speaker 1: opposed to not getting in a championship game. He just

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Speaker 1: means you lost earlier. It's not like you didn't lose.

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Speaker 1: That's the part that drives me nuts. You did lose.

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Speaker 1: People the stuff, and I'm not here to, you know,

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Speaker 1: bash Michael Jordan. He's definitely at least the third best

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Speaker 1: basketball player. But I did they act like he played

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Speaker 1: six years. He didn't. He has played six years. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, they do this weird memory whole thing

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Speaker 1: where an iconic moment is the double nickel in the Garden.

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Speaker 1: But that's a season I'm told didn't happen because he

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Speaker 1: lost there, Like the Bulls never lost. They did. I

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Speaker 1: watched it. They lost to a team that then lost

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Speaker 1: in the finals. But okay, whatever, what do I know?

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Speaker 1: You you went up a couple of octaves there. I

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Speaker 1: think Mariah Carey is pretty impressive when she does it.

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Speaker 1: That was sort of a Mariah Carey ish going up

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Speaker 1: a couple octaves there. Yeah, you're you're you're kind of

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Speaker 1: pressed in my buttons here. Do you notice though, something

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Speaker 1: that's going on in the NBA? Dan, It's an odd

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Speaker 1: little thing. There's a migration eastward. The king goes west,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, mothers like, oh, I want

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Speaker 1: to make the finals. I love it in Miami's looking good.

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Speaker 1: The Rockets play the Lakers in the in the second

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Speaker 1: round and Russ is like, get me out of hearts,

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Speaker 1: like picking out of your all. Going east. Everyone's like,

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Speaker 1: a I'd like to make a finals before I retire,

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Speaker 1: and the Kauhi is the one guy who's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: going west too, and it's like, okay, well goodbye, to

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Speaker 1: see you later. So it's just a very interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you though, but I'm with you on the

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Speaker 1: lebron bandwagon. I am, I'm with you on it. It's smart.

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Speaker 1: It's the only reason I come on the show. And

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Speaker 1: you you're starting to look more a little bit more

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Speaker 1: like Alan Rickman from die Hard. Alan Ria Is that

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Speaker 1: the villain? Yeah, Hans Grub Yeah, okay, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to even to do with that's a compliment. How's

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Speaker 1: that a compliment? Because he's a great actor, a handsome man.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's okay, it's a great actor. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be if you if I were like, hey, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you know what you're looking like John Gazzale. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be I can't be like, hey, he won an oscar.

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Speaker 1: It's Did anyone ever call him a great looking man?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, so that's not nice. Alan Rickman is a

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Speaker 1: handsome guy and he wasn't a terrorist. His his character

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Speaker 1: was Okay, why are you all fire? You're sensitive here?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I'm not sensitive. I just thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who do you want me to look like? Who have

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Speaker 1: you been told you look like a bad guy? You

909
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: are because you guys, your guys are gonna put up

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Speaker 1: the video. There's all right. There's a soccer player named

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Speaker 1: Frank Reebery who people say I look like. But if

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Speaker 1: you put up the picture of him, he has a

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Speaker 1: facial scar from like a car accident. I don't even

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Speaker 1: have a facial scaring. People like you look like him.

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Speaker 1: I get that, I get early stage Tom Green. None

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Speaker 1: of these things are true. Story. I'll tell you real quick,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we're late. I was going to the

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Speaker 1: bodega buy my house to buy a black and mild,

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Speaker 1: and some guys were hanging out outside and I hear

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Speaker 1: him talking like as I walk in They're like, dude,

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Speaker 1: that's the guy. That's the guy, that's the guy from TV.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, they want the show. I get

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Speaker 1: my black and Mile to come out and like what's up, fellas,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, do the thing. I'm like the thing

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Speaker 1: they wanted me to do, a Tom Green bit. I

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Speaker 1: thought I was Tom Green at least at least they

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Speaker 1: sort of recognized you. No, they didn't. They thought I

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Speaker 1: was a funny looking different guy with a high pitched voice. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now we're really all I'm so late. I gotta go hereon.

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Speaker 1: Ok I'm up against a break. You know how this works,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to be here anymore. That's nick right,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, good to talk to you. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern

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