1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang on today's show. Okay, so Chandler Jones 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: is not expected to play this week? What now? What 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: does Van's Joseph have up his sleeve to compensate for 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Jones's absence? Also, what does coach Joseph have in store 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: for Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt? But first, remember the 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: initial injury report of the week is just that, the initial, 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: meaning the beginning. There's still a lot of time left 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: before Sunday It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode four eighty two, 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: by Hunday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy Cardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts. 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Going for Hopkins one hand to catch in a touchdown, 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. All right, 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: m J, you want the good news or the bad 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: news when it comes to the injury report. Your choice. 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Let's go with the good news. All right, the good 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: news And I know you saw this earlier on Thursday. 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: But good to see both Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: on the practice field during the open portion, each dealing 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: with rib injuries and the fact that ribs now all 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden is the injury for the Arizona Cardinals 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. But look, it is an issue. 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: It's hard to breathe and it is hard to move. 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Yet I'll say this, both Murphy and Wilson moving very 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: well during the open portion of practice. Yeah, Darren, the 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: open portion or practice, they're flying around. Obviously they do 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: some pre practice drills and they were participating and it 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: looked like they didn't miss any time. But clearly, you know, 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: when you get a rehab and you don't play for 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: a week, you already get back on the field. So 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: it was encouraging and borrowing any setbacks. You're gonna have 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: your top two starters along with Robert Alford. I gotta 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: think Hamilton's going to be in there, and we always 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: know that Isaiah Simmons can be that wild card. Been 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: very impressed with Antonio Hamilton and sometimes bird Gang. It 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: is hard to notice everyone on the football field, especially 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: if the ball is not thrown that direction or thrown 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: there away. But Hamilton and coverage, We've heard nothing but 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: good things from players, from coaches, and they even vance 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: Joseph earlier on Thursday bringing up that how credits or 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: how key that Hamilton is in special teams. He's become 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: one of the Jeff Rogers core guys, meaning you can 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: play all four phases of special teams and then go 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: out there and play you know, forty five fifty snaps. 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about it on the postgame show 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: and it's probably midway through. I'm like, we haven't even 48 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: mentioned Marco Wilson or Byron Murphy, and we know that 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: Murse off to a great start. Obviously he's in the 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: top five, I want to say with the interceptions. So 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to give Vans a lot of credit and 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: more of the secondary coaches, between Marcus Robinson and Greg Williams, 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: because they got They went into that game with Chase Whittaker, 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Are you throwing Hamilton and Robert Alfer and they survived. 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: They were not. You know, I think initially they targeted 56 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Chase Whittaker when he got in the game as a 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: nickel corner, and after that, I mean, he was making tackles. 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: He almost had a sack. So get the staff credit 59 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: because they do. They value those reps in practice and 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: offseason workouts, and you could see that the game wasn't 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: too big for a guy like Chase Whittaker. It's funny 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: you go back to the conversation in the off season 63 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: and hey, I'm as guilty as charge talking about, Hey, 64 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: this team needs to address the cornerback position in free agency, 65 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: in the draft, and maybe even more so in the 66 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: off season. It was a huge talking point. Yet what 67 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: have we seen since Week one that Byron Murphy, Marco Wilson, 68 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Robert Alfer, they have handled their roles even in the 69 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: absence of Malcolm Butler. We thought that was going to 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: be a huge loss, knock on wood. Through five games, 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: they have held their own. And the stats that I 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: love from Mike helm Stat was with the Arizona Cardinal's 73 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: media relations department. He's been following this. The Cardinals defense 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: has not allowed a receiver to hit one hundred yards 75 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: yet this season. And you talk about some of the 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: names of the receivers that they've played this season, household names, 77 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: yet none of them have cracked the entry mark. Yeah, 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: you go back to week one when he was healthy, 79 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, A J. Brown, Week two, Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielan. 80 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: You know, Week three, you know you had two former 81 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: first round picks, and then you had Marvin Jones. And 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: week four, you know you have Robert Woods and Cooper 83 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: Cup and then you throw into Seawan Jackson. And then 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: last week it was more Deeba will Samuel and then 85 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: he throw in Brandon I yuk, So, I mean, that's 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: that's impressive. And you know, I think Advance was alluding 87 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: to on Thursday, which is the day he meets with 88 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: the media, it's not always going to look good. It 89 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: could be ugly at times, but their their goals are 90 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: points allowed, and you know third down and then making 91 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: teams kick the field goals in the red zone, so 92 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: they may give up to three hundred yards whether it's 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: passing or rushing, and there are times it looks a 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: little sloppy and it's ugly, but at the end of 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: the day, Ay, you want to score more points than 96 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: your opponent, obviously, and b you want to get teams 97 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: off the field on third down. The Cardinals did a 98 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: great job. They were three for eleven. The niners, and 99 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: then they were one for five on four down. So again, 100 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: I really liked this staff. I think I think it's 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: a really good mixture of young coaches and then you 102 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: got a lot of experience there. And I think Vans 103 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: has earned the right to be said, you know, he's 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: made major strides because in the first year, Patrick gets suspended, 105 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Alfred doesn't make the season, and all of a sudden, 106 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: Biber and Murphy's your number one corners. So they've come 107 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: a long way. And you can make the case that 108 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: when Buddha Baker's on and we know that and Jalen 109 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 1: Thompson and you're throwing these corners when Wilson and Murphy 110 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: and Alfred out there. That's probably one of the strengths 111 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: of this defense, considering they do rotate a lot of 112 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: linebackers in defensive lineman. Those those are stable guys. They 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: don't come off the field. Six passes defense for bay 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: or Murphy that is tops on the team. Second most 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons with three, and then Lucky Poet has three 116 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: at the line to score. Would have thought he had 117 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: some hops. I don't know about hopital might be just 118 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: the long reach and the football's being thrown kind of 119 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: maybe instead of over the hands of the defensive line, 120 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: kind of trying to go through the hands. And you 121 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: can't do that against Lucky photo him. No, but but 122 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: also those calves, I would think he'd be in a 123 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: jump over, you know, maybe an eight cardon or something. 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: But anyways, yeah, that's I like the way him and 125 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence are playing. I think we know what they 126 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: getting in. You know, Corey Peters, he's steady, Eddie. We're 127 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: seeing more out of Zach Allen. We're seeing more out 128 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: of j. J. Watt. And we'll get into, you know, 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: maybe the difference him playing the last couple of years 130 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: in Houston and how he's adapted to a different techno 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: on this Cardinals defensive line. Cardinals defense sixth in scoring 132 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: nineteen points they are allowing per game. As JJ Watt said, quote, 133 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: as long as we end up with more points than 134 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: they do, we're in a good spot. And the Cardinals 135 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: are at five. And oh, all right, we mentioned good 136 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: news bad news with respects to the injury report. You 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: want the bad news now, sure? All right? The bad 138 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: news is this between the Cardinals and Browns, a combine 139 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: sixteen players did not practice on Wednesday, and only one, 140 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: Corey Peters, was because of rest. Now we'll have to 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: wait and see how this progresses, but it is telling 142 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: that Jordan Hicks absent for a second straight day, DeAndre 143 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Hopkins absent for a second straight day due to illness, 144 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: Tenor Vallejo absent for a second straight day. So banged up, 145 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: especially at inside linebacker, and a lot more I think 146 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: is going to be on the plates, as Zavan Collins, 147 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: depending on the health, Hicks, who's deal with a toe issue. 148 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: It is something as you get closer to Friday and 149 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: that final injury report, you start looking at more of 150 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: these names. All right, does DNP go to limited? Does 151 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: it stay at DNP? And then all of a sudden, 152 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: what is the designation on Friday. We don't get caught 153 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: up on Wednesday, but you start to think a little 154 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: bit more on Thursday and then definitely on Friday. But 155 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to Hicks, I think he is one 156 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: of those players there's a handful, especially on the Cardinals team, 157 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: that could go an entire week without practicing. He's played 158 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: darn near every single snap on Sunday. He knows the 159 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: defense in and out. It would not concern me one 160 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: bits much like DeAndre Hopkins. If we do not see 161 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Hicks practice at all this week, good observation, and I 162 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: couldn't agree more. And the thing is is he's played 163 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: at a high level. He's in great shape. You know, 164 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: he's wearing the Captain's scene. He gets guys lined up. 165 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: I think he's taken a lot of pressure off of 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: Zaven Collins. And we know that Isaiah Simmons, you know, 167 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: has learned to play least four or different positions. So 168 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: you know, I like that group. And again, it all 169 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: starts up front when you got to somehow contain the 170 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: run game. They're not going to shut the run game down. 171 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: This we've got to contain it. And you know, the 172 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: first and second downs and both of the backs, I 173 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: mean they get to the second level, Craig, they're off 174 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: to the races, and you know, between Nick Chubb and 175 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: then Kareem Hunt, I mean, they got a really good 176 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: one two punch. Now we'll just have to wait and 177 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: see on the other side when it comes to their 178 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: starting tackles. Yeah, the tackle Tedrick Wills is dealing with 179 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: an ankle injury and Jack Conklin dealing with a knee injury. 180 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: But that is a stout offensive line that the Cardinals 181 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: defense is facing, and they'll face it likely without Chandler Jones. Now, 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: hopefully this is just a one game thing and Jones 183 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: is able to be activated off the reserve COVID nineteen 184 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: list next week. But when you look at the absence 185 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: of number fifty five and you look at okay, what 186 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: are you losing, and you just he always got five 187 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: sacks and all that happened in Week one. He does, 188 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: though have fourteen quarterback hits that leads the team and 189 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: his second most in the league. So it does show 190 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: that Chandler Jones, even though he hasn't been able to 191 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback and bring him down since Week one, 192 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: he is getting to the quarterback. But I say that 193 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: this is hopefully just a one time occurrence. And then 194 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: you look back at last season when Chandler Jones had 195 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: his season end in Week five against the Jets. Last year, 196 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were able to get to the quarterback forty 197 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: eight sacks, the fourth most in the league. Now, what 198 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: do you do if your vanch Joseph and Chandler Jones 199 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: is unavailable with this Sunday The options that are presented 200 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: to coach Joseph against this Brown's defense and offensive line, 201 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Chiome Brown's offensive line. I would think you'd have Marcus 202 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: Golden and probably Cannard start, but he didn't mention Dennis Cardick. 203 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: And we know that he's coming off the the ACL 204 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: and you know, and initially he was getting five snaps, 205 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: seven snaps, and then you know, obviously he's gonna his 206 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: snapcount's gonna go up. And then you know, you possibly 207 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: look at a guy like Isaiah Simmons that can come 208 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: off the edge. So yeah, I think it's we're gonna 209 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: see more playing time from possibly Canard. Marcus Golden does 210 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: come off the field sometimes, but on our third down packages, 211 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: they want to get that NASCAR package in there, and 212 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: I would include Guardick in that conversation. Yeah, the NASCAR package, 213 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: what is it? Six seven guys some most standing at 214 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and trying to get as much speed, 215 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: much explosiveness off the line of scrimmage, and then the 216 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: confusion that you try to make a quarterback look all right, 217 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: how many these six seven guys are actually coming at 218 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: me or dropping back exactly? And sometimes you don't know 219 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: it could be five of the six or four of 220 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: the six, or one guy drops it, and you never 221 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: know who is it gonna be the guy in the 222 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: middle of the field or maybe more towards my left 223 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: or my right as I look at it from a 224 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: quarterback's position. But I do think they do. They are 225 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: set up well without Chandler Jones. Hopefully again, if it's 226 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: just one game, Marcus Golden will be huge. Dennis Gardeck, 227 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I think, is getting healthier. His snap count on defense 228 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: is going up. We know what he was able to 229 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: do last season in just ninety three defensive snaps, seven sacks, 230 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: seven tackles for lost, ten quarterback hits. The only problem 231 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: with that MJ that was last season. Guardeck's on film. 232 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: And if you do see if the Browns do see 233 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck on the field more, they're aware of him. 234 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: They know what he can do, what he's capable of doing. Now, 235 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: of course they got to stop it, but it is 236 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: something that is not going to catch Cleveland or any 237 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: other opponent by surprise anymore. No, and again, you know, 238 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: they gotta worry about Buda Baker coming off the edge. 239 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: They gotta worry about Isaiah Simmons you know, and one 240 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: of the key matches is going to be in this game. 241 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: We'll obviously get more detailed tomorrow. Is they run three 242 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: tight end sets twenty two percent of the time. The 243 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals have done that five percent of the time this year, 244 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: and so I gotta think that's going mass protection. Clearly, 245 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: they can run the football, averaging one hundred and eighty 246 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: five yards on the ground per game. Between Chub and Hunt, 247 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: they have almost thirteen touchdowns combined. Could be another guy 248 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: in there, maybe Baker's got one. So Cardinals are probably 249 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: going to go a little more nickel and dime defense 250 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: instead of trying to load up on the line when 251 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: you you know, if these guys are blocking, you got 252 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: to hope that the quicker guys are going to get 253 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: to the quarterback or at least contain So that's something 254 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: they haven't really faced this year, you know. And they 255 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: don't run a lot of ten personnel. We know the 256 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals run ten personnel about twenty two percent of the time, 257 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: so they're thirteen personnel one back. Three tight ends is 258 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: equivalent to where the Cardinals running with their ten personnel. 259 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: You look at Dennis Gardeck, he does I don't again, 260 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: coverage wise, I'm not sure, but as far as getting 261 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, he does have that ability. The other 262 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: guys a Devon Kanard, Kylie Fits, Victor d Mukajee. You 263 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: just don't quite know. Kennard has really been I don't 264 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: want to say a disappointment. It's just he hasn't lived 265 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: up to expectations. And one he hasn't played a lot. 266 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: He's played no more than seventeen snaps in any one 267 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: game this season, only eight last week against the forty 268 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: nine ers. But we saw what he was able to 269 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: do against the Detroit lines or with the Detroit lines 270 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: seven sacks in each of those two seasons. Kylie Fitz 271 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: is more of a special teams guy. D Mukage has 272 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: been inactive in the past three games. And then you 273 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: keep bringing up Isaiah Simmons, which is a great option 274 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: as far as his speed to get into the backfield. 275 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, if they're running a lot 276 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: of three tight end sets, you need Simmons in coverage, 277 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: so that takes someone away that you hope can get 278 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: into the backfield. Yeah, I mean I get it. Kennard 279 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: to me provides great depth. This is a perfect scenario. 280 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: But who are you taking off the field? I mean 281 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: the way Marcus is getting to the quarterback. And again 282 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: it's just not the sacks. It's the pressures, you know, 283 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: the knockdowns, the tackle for losses. And when Chandler's out there, 284 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't take him off the field. And 285 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks they don't take off the field and Isaiah Simmons. 286 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: So I think it's just a numbers game there. But 287 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: he's he's a guy that works hard. He knows the defense, 288 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: so he's when if his numbers called and gets more reps. 289 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: But when you have Chandler and all those other, you know, 290 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: hybrid guys, that's the reason why he's coming off the field. 291 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: We'll see if that changes this week without Chandler Jones 292 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: or the expected absence of Chandler Jones. And I'm not 293 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: very optimistic, especially with Kingsbury had to say on Wednesday 294 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: that Jones did one. He's vaccinated too, he tested positive three. 295 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: He's has symptoms, so that certainly makes it. As Kingsberry said, 296 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: a long shot or a stretch is the word he 297 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: used for him to be available on Sunday. Yeah, just 298 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: to give you an idea the report came out on Tuesday, 299 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: so obviously the origins. So if we start on Tuesday, 300 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: and if he would you know it was a symptomatic, 301 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: he would have had two negative tests. Then he would 302 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: have been a long shot, but he could have been 303 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: now here. By hint, going on Tuesday. You throw in 304 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: ten days he has suffered from symptoms. You wonder, you know, 305 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: is he losing any weight. He's going to be able 306 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: to work out on his own, So that puts him 307 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: in line for the Texans game. And then the Cardinals 308 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: will play two games in five days on Thursday night 309 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: against the Packers. So we'll take it now. I just 310 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: don't want this thing to linger for another week or two. 311 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: And again the Texans, they play hard. Obviously the Cardinals 312 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: will be favored in that game, but there's no gimmes 313 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You need your best players out there 314 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: at least for seventeen games. Cardinals Cover two presented by Honday, 315 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As we dive into 316 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: this week six matchup Cardinals and Browns, the Cardinals at 317 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: five and zero, the Browns come in at three and two, 318 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: and they come in as you referenced, earlier with the 319 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: number one rushing offense in the league. They are fifth 320 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: best overall, but number one in rushing yards, rushing touchdowns, 321 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: rushing average, and rushing first downs. And we know that 322 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have had issues stopping the run this season. 323 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: In fact, they rank in the bottom third as far 324 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: as rushing yards allowed per game and second to last 325 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: in rushing yards per carry. Looking back at this season, however, 326 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry seventeen carries for fifty eight yards. You check 327 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: that box. The Cardinals did an excellent job. And then 328 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook twenty two carries one hundred and thirty one yards. 329 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: In the second half, however, nine carries for thirty five yards, 330 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: so maybe a half check mark there. Then James Robinson 331 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: eighty eight yards on fifteen carries almost six yards a pop. 332 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: Darryl Henderson eighty nine yards on fourteen carries almost six 333 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: and a half yards a pop. It's not getting better, MJ. 334 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: It's getting worse. And we focused on weeks one and 335 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: two because you got the number one and number two 336 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: running backs in the league, and Henry and Cook respectively, 337 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: and I think all the attention and focus was on 338 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: those two and for the most part, I give the 339 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals a B B plus against. But when you look 340 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: at what Robinson and Henderson did, it's like, all right, 341 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: something changed, something happened. Where is the focus? What's missing 342 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: as far as the running assignments are concerned. Defensively and 343 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: now heading into this week's contest, you have the best 344 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: rushing offense in the league, a great offensive line which 345 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: I want to touch on. But Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt, 346 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: they are destroying defenses this season. Last week against the Chargers, 347 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: two twenty two rushing yards and three touchdowns combined between 348 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: Chubb and Hunt. That is the challenge, a massive challenge 349 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: in front of the Cardinals here on Sunday. Yeah, the 350 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: Browns are first in the NFL with fifty one rushing 351 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: first down and tied for third with one hundred and 352 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: eight four since last year. So and again, the team's 353 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: sixteen scrimmage touchdowns this season are tied for eighth. I'm 354 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: looking at these tight ends. They're combining four hundred and 355 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: twenty six yards, third most from each team's tight ends 356 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and Stefanski as the head coach, has 357 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: never lost two in a row. But I think the 358 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: card according to Joe Woods. He's a defensive coordinator. He 359 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: mentioned he was asked about their corners and obviously Newsome 360 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: and Ward and maybe it's Johnson, but he was confident 361 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: that they all were going to practice today and he 362 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: was hopeful that they all will dress on game day. 363 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: So and then you know, when We've got a chance 364 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: to talk to Calvin Beach and one of the things 365 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: he had to say is, you gotta we're looking at 366 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: the Browns offense here, and I mean what they're doing defensively. 367 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: We can get into the secondary and their issues as 368 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: far as who is up and who is down. But 369 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I think the Cardinals can score 370 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: points in this game. But there was a shootout last 371 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: week between the Charges and Browns. So you gotta get 372 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: you gotta be able to come up with stops. And 373 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: I'll say this about the Cardinals defense when they need stops, Yes, 374 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: I against the forty nine ers, they have gotten those stops, 375 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: especially when it's inside the twenty yard line. So it's 376 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: that I don't know if it's cliche, but you hear 377 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: it all the time, Ben, but don't break when you 378 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: need a third down stop or you need that third 379 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: and goal stop. You get it, you force the field 380 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: goal or hopefully you get no points out of it. 381 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: You know, at the same time, I know what the 382 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: narrative is going to be, and I know what my 383 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: eyes are going to see. Say, if all of a 384 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: sudden that first drive and it's Chubb or it's Hunt 385 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: and they've massive holes and the defense is either not 386 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: making tackles or missing tackles, and then all of a 387 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: sudden you're watching these guys get into the secondary. Yeah, again, 388 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: what I was saying the obviously, I think first down 389 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: is going to be a big down here because if 390 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: they're getting four or five six yards a pop, and 391 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: all of a sudden as second and four, then it 392 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: mean it's third and two and now they you can 393 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: play chess with Vans show Sophie. You know, Vance is 394 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: always saying when teams go to four down for trying 395 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: to convert on a fourth line, he has more tools 396 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: in his playbook or in his toolbox because they only 397 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: can do a certain amount of place. So yeah, I 398 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: mean first and second down they're gonna be big here. 399 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: And you know, we'll see about Jarvis Landry, you know, 400 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. But I agree with you just when you 401 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: look at it as a whole, you know, I do 402 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: think they're gonna match up, but obviously, you know, you 403 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: don't have all your top players on the offensive line 404 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: of defensive line. I'll say this though, at least the 405 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals recognize that there is a problem, that there is 406 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: an issue. Corey Peters brought it up, mentioned that the 407 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: run defense at the top of the list, and Vance 408 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: Joseph talked about, you know, hey, containing the run. He 409 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: wasn't as adamant about stopping the run, which he has 410 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: each and every week, but he understands that Nick Chubb, 411 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: especially it's not the first tackle, it's the second, third, 412 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: fourth tackle that he's breaking and what all of a sudden, 413 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: a two to three yard gain hopefully becomes a six, nine, 414 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: twelve yard game because Nick Chubb is one of the best. 415 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: In fact, he entered this season with the best broken 416 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: tackle rates over the last two seasons. So he is big, 417 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: he is physical, and worse for the Cardinals, he is 418 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: tough to bring down, especially if you try to do 419 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: it one on one. Yeah, I mean, it's amazing that 420 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: how much they've committed to the run game. And the 421 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: fact is that, you know, you would think that, you know, 422 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: they would win some tight games here, but they can 423 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: put points on the board. Again, they're well coached in 424 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: all three phases. I mean, Alex Van Pelt is really 425 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. I think Stefanski and him are on 426 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: the same page all week. Joe Woods does a great 427 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: job getting his guys on matchups, and then the tight 428 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: end the special team's coach. They're really good. So I 429 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: mean this again, if when we talked about the schedule 430 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: coming out, this is one of the most talented teams 431 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: you will play, and you got to give him credit. Obviously, 432 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: they've hit on some picks. They went out in free 433 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: agency and they've added players, veteran players, not just guys 434 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: that are role players. They've added starters. So but again, 435 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's all about the health. And if they're 436 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: not having their two starting tackles, I think that plays 437 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: in the hands what the Cardinals will try to do. Yeah, 438 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: before Sunday's lost to the Chargers, Cleveland had won three straight. 439 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: They're undefeated at home at two and oz and if 440 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: you get behind as far as the Cardinals on the road, 441 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, if the Browns can 442 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: maintain that ground game and then all of a sudden, 443 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: it becomes a different type of game. What's helped the 444 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: Cardinals to the first five weeks is it's either been 445 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: a shootout or they've gotten a lead, a healthy lead 446 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: to where teams have had to abandon the run. I 447 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: don't know, hopefully that happens this Sunday, but if that 448 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: is not the if that does not occur this week, 449 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: as far as the Browns were able to maintain some 450 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: balance to keep the entire playbook open, that's where my 451 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,239 Speaker 1: concern would be, just because it's week six and for 452 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: five weeks now, no one's been able to stop the 453 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: Browns rushing attack. It's not like going into Tennessee week 454 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: one and scared about Derek Henry. Well, that was just 455 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: the first game. Now, all of a sudden, it's five 456 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: games worth of tape and trying to figure out no 457 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: one's had an answer when it's either Nick Chubb or 458 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Karem Hunt. And then don't forget they're capable catching the 459 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield. Yeah, I mean, it's a 460 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: perfect recipe, especially in that division because when it get 461 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: starts getting colder, and they always say you need a 462 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: run game, and you need a defense that can travel 463 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: in the postseason because you know, teams are more conservative. 464 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: You don't think you're going to score forty points lest 465 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: you're able to force a couple of turnovers. So, I mean, 466 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to find a better 467 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: one two punch than this. You know, it's all Derrick Henry, right, 468 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: and then it's all Delvin Cook, and then it's all 469 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: James Robinson, Okay, and then you get to the Niners 470 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: running back by committee, you get to the Rams running 471 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: back by committee. I mean, this is the best one 472 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: two punch in the National Football League. And they've invested 473 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: heavenly onto the offensive line. I mean they have JC 474 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: Tredder there, they have been Tonio. They've done a really 475 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: good job, you know, getting physical and trying to win 476 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: it the line of scrimmage. In that division, you have 477 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: to be able to run the football vants. Joseph called 478 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: it old school. He's football the Woody Hayes three yards 479 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: in a cloud of does not quite that, but that's 480 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: what old school football is. When you're lining up under 481 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: center with tie it in or two or maybe even 482 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: three two backs or one back, you know, split I 483 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: formation offset. I mean stuff that you know we all 484 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: grew up seeing, yet we don't see it a lot, 485 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: and it becomes oh, hey look exot of creative play 486 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: call and when we see that type of formations now, 487 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: But I do think that's what we're going to see 488 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: a lot of because until you show you can stop it, yes, 489 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: teams are going to continue to run the ball down 490 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. You know we didn't hear the words shut down, 491 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: shut the run game contain, yes, I mean not the 492 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: tier already, you know, forecasting of foreshadowing, but contain contain. 493 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: And you know the fact is that you know, if 494 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: they can get them out on some three and outs, 495 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: it's only going to help them and get fuel positions. 496 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: So I'm just more curious to see what their offensive 497 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: line looks like because on paper going to the season, 498 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: they had the best offensive line gratings over the last 499 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: year or so. And then when you bring in a 500 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: couple of tight ends and now you're going mass protection. 501 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: So it's going to get harder to get to the quarterback. 502 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: But you just can't let these guys get to the 503 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: second level. Easier said than done. Left to right the 504 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: Browns offensive line Jedrick Wills solid rookie season, first Brown pick. 505 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: He's trending up left guard Joel Betonio pro bowler. Center 506 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: JC Treder has played one hundred percent of the snaps 507 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: since arriving in Cleveland and twenty seventeen plus. These also 508 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: the NFLPA president. Right guard Wyatt Teller, second team All 509 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: Pro last year, right tackle Jack Conklin first team All 510 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: Pro last season. That's solid. That's even better than solid. Yet, Will's, Treder, 511 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: and Conklin all dealing with either an ankle or knee 512 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: issue heading into this contest. But I do expect all 513 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: three to play. It's just how healthy can you be 514 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: for an entire sixty minute Well, and that's sixty percent 515 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: of your line. Okay, So again, I'm glad you brought 516 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: up all those awards because it's not misleading what I 517 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: was saying. It's true. So mate, And the question becomes 518 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: do they start the game? Can they finish? But that 519 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: could be a little bit a weakness because they're not 520 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: one hundred percent and that's where they can try to 521 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: attack that again, be interesting to see if they start 522 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: the game, are they able to finish the game because 523 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: of obviously nagging injuries, and once your season starts, they 524 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: don't go away unless you get a buy a week 525 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: or you know, you get a big league and you 526 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: could take guys out of the game. Pain tolerance, how 527 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: do you handle you know, you're feeling good, yet at 528 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, do you risk 529 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: further injury? And then and I can't remember if we 530 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: brought this up earlier this week here on Cardinals cover two, 531 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday probab partner of the Arizona Cardinals. But 532 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns play on Thursday. It is a quick turnaround, 533 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: much like we saw with the Rams, much like we 534 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: saw with the Jaguars. So and this is a non 535 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: conference game, these two teams, the Browns and Cardinals. No 536 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: one's gonna say it publicly, no one will acknowledge it. 537 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: You could afford to lose this game if you're the 538 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: Browns or the Cardinals. No, no one wants to see 539 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: that happen. But this does not affect standings, tiebreakers, any 540 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: of that stuff. So, you know, does Cleveland now look 541 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: at Sunday and say, Okay, well we've got Denver coming 542 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: up on Thursday? You know, is that more important than 543 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: a game Sunday afternoon against the Cards. I mean, I 544 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: have no idea, No, it's it's a fair point. It's 545 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: just interesting how all that shakes out. But I just think, 546 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, they get another loss, and you're gonna start hearing, 547 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna start hearing, Okay, this is a team now 548 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: to say that Browns are gonna get to the Super Bowl, 549 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: they had the roster going into decease it Now if 550 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: you drop another game and be this first time when 551 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: there's the Fantasies lost two in a row and they 552 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: can blame it on injuries, but they're also gonna blame 553 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. And when you when Van said old school football, 554 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: the first thing I thought is, Okay, yeah, it's only 555 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: week six, you know. And granted, because you get there 556 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: in late October, November, and December, it could be cold, 557 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: but I gotta think the grasses are going to be 558 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: as green as it normally would. And I think it 559 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: like Brian Pipe and Clay Matthews and Jim Brown just 560 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: lining up and run the football. And it's kind of 561 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: like in some of these Cardinals games when they are 562 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: protecting the lead in the fourth quarter, it's almost the 563 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: other team knows you're gonna run, and they still can't 564 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: stop it, and that becomes you know, you know exactly 565 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. Yet you're right. You can have 566 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: a game plan and be in the right spot, you 567 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: still have to be able to slow them down or 568 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: stop them, and you know, easier said than done. Coach 569 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Joseph he talked about how exhaustive it was to prepare 570 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: for the Rams in forty nine ers because of how 571 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: complicated those offenses are, and defensively, you've got to be 572 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: ready for one check, two check, three checks on a 573 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: certain play. Yet you can have the perfect game plan. 574 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: Yet if I'm better than you, m J, I'm going 575 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: to beat you. Even if you know that I'm going 576 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: to run rights and you're there before I get there. Yeah, 577 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's that's By the way, I 578 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: just looked at the forecast for Cleveland on Sunday, Partly cloudy, 579 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: temperatures in the fifties. They are expecting rain on Friday 580 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: and Saturday. Whether that means anything or not. Outside of 581 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, Paul Calvisi and Chris Melvin having to stand 582 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: on the sidelines for the entire ball game, we worry 583 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: about those guys when the weather gets a little bit uh, well, 584 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: let's say when it's non Arizona weather and you're outdoors 585 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: versus indoors. But it look, I'm not that I'm worried. 586 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: It is a little bit of a concern as far 587 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: as the inability to stop the run and all of 588 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, hey, look, we faced the number one rushing 589 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: team in the National Football League now to combat that. 590 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: And this was some interesting conversation with Vance Joseph and 591 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: JJ Watt earlier on Thursday. As we continue here on 592 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday probably partner the Arizona Cardinals, 593 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: we heard from coach Joseph first. He was asked about 594 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: JJ Watts and it was Coach Joseph who brought up 595 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: that Watt is playing more inside, meaning in between guard 596 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: center tackle. Treat me guard center guard when you look 597 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: at the offensive line. Then he has and I think 598 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned three or four years. Watt acknowledged that it's 599 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: not like he's never played it before, but it has 600 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: been a while and maybe that's why we haven't seen 601 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: JJ watt numbers. Through the first five games, he's been 602 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: very good. He's graded out very well, we just haven't 603 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: seen the sacks. And I think people point to, hey, 604 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: JJ Watt, three time Defensive Player of the Year, You're 605 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: held without a sack through five games. What's going on. Well, 606 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's more scheme. Maybe it's JJ Watt helping taking 607 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: on a double team, a triple team and allowing a 608 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones or Marcus Golden to make the tackle or 609 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: get the sack. Yeah, and he was very honest. He 610 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: thought he got off to a slow start in week one, 611 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: he thought he got off to a slow star in 612 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: week two. And normally you would think he's not as 613 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: facing as many double teams as he did a year ago. 614 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: He led the league with thirty six percent. That was 615 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: just because they didn't have anybody around him. But I'll 616 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: say this, and I mentioned it a few different times, 617 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: JJ wat was freelancing early in the season, and again 618 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: him and Chandler both in my opinion, were freelancing. Now 619 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: they had the ability to cover, meaning, yeah, I may 620 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: not be in the right spot, but I'm still going 621 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: to be able to make a tackle or somebody else 622 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: will Van said, the entire job of the defense is 623 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: do your job. When we've heard this before, Gap integrity gap, 624 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: control gap this and I think JJ now is settling 625 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: into his new role to where it's not so much 626 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: five technique or three technique, it's more four technique And 627 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: that's probably his skill set based on the other players 628 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: around him. But I did notice he was freelancing and 629 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: he's a type of player. Like I said, it's not 630 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: a bad thing, but if you're expected to be in 631 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: a certain area, you have to be in that area. 632 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to make a play. Yet it doesn't have 633 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: to be you every single play. It can be the 634 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: guy next to you. It's your teammate, and it's a 635 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: trust factor that if I can't make the play, I'm 636 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: doing my job. Do I have the trust and the 637 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: guy next to me? If I'm doing my job, does 638 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: the team? Does my teammate now all of a sudden 639 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: in position to make a play well? And I gotta 640 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: think some of this is film session. I mean, you 641 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: gotta think a guy like JJ Watt because he's going 642 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: into a new conference. Okay, so he's playing different defense, 643 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: offensive line. So tell me, I gotta think some of 644 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: his film session. Or he sees a formation and he thinks, okay, 645 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm smarter than them even though he doesn't no technically, 646 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: he has an idea based on the formation. Who the 647 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: running backs are in the game, is a quarterback on 648 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: the shotguns the under center, so film session, he's taking 649 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: some chances again and he's probably gonna win five out 650 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: of ten, But what about the other five times? Looking 651 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: at Watt's numbers, ten tackle, four tackles for loss, six 652 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: quarterback hits one past defense, there are no sacks so far, 653 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: but he is I think the past two weeks, when 654 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: you look and love or hate Pro Football Focus, they 655 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: have graded out JJ Watt the highest graded Cardinals defender 656 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: each of the past two weeks. And we have seen 657 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: what be disruptive. We have seen him in the backfield. 658 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: Do we want to see it on a more consistent basis? 659 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're talking about here and what 660 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: coach Joseph and you alluded to as far as just 661 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: doing your job. It doesn't matter if JJ Watt gets 662 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: that TfL. But Marcus Golden does like he foted two 663 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 1: does Richard Lawrence does. Because j. J. Watt was where 664 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,959 Speaker 1: he was supposed to be. He didn't freelance, he didn't 665 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: get off his block. He stayed where he was supposed 666 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: to be to allow a Zach Allen, Richard Lawrence or 667 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: whomever to free up and then make that tackle. And 668 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: it's very difficult for any player, veteran or rookie, because 669 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: everyone wants to be the guy to make the play. 670 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: Yet sometimes you have to take a step back because 671 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: you're told to do X to allow your teammate to 672 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: do Y and Z. Yeah, and when Doca was here, 673 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: and we know how explosive he was, just based on 674 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: his tree trunk, thighs and his legs, he would freelance, 675 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: but he was also able to you know, split double team. 676 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: So there's a good and bad about it. But the 677 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: way this defense is set it set up is do 678 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: your job. JJ Watt on Thursday quote nobody cares who 679 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: gets the credit. We just want the plays made. There's 680 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: no egos And I completely agree with him. Yet at 681 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: the same time, it's easier said than done. And sometimes 682 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment you mentioned it, JJ 683 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: Watt film Session knows certain tendencies for guys that maybe 684 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: a Richard Lawrence doesn't or Lucky Photo doesn't, and realizes, 685 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: you know what if I just maybe I'll do what 686 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do and then quickly get off my 687 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: block instead of holding it for a full second. It's 688 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: a half second. Well, no, it needs to be a 689 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: full second. That's what Vance Joseph put in for that 690 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: particular defensive call. So I think it is all a 691 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: learning process, and I don't know if it's a learning curve, 692 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: but just realizing what you're supposed to do in this 693 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: defensive system and then trusting the guys around you, and 694 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: that takes time. Understanding the abilities and deficiencies of what 695 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: your teammates can and cannot do. Yeah, we can go 696 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: bay back to his initial press conference. You know, all 697 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: familiar with this defense. I'm familiar. I played for fans. Well, 698 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: each week there's different matchups, there's different schemes, there's different rotations. 699 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: So again we just assumed it was a plug in play. Yes, 700 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: he missed a lot of training camp. At a matter 701 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: of fact, he missed the entire training camp. And he 702 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: was in football shape, I'm not going to say that. 703 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: And he was, you know, working out, he's in the 704 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: film room. But you know, at the same time, though, 705 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: maybe we were expect acting too much. Things to happen 706 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: too early, because again Rondo Moore, different position, you know, 707 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson. I mean, he's definitely passed the eye test 708 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: Biber and Murphin's making the stride Zach Allen. So but 709 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: I think we were we were just thinking he's gonna 710 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: get you know, I don't I never thought he could 711 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: double digits in sacks, but maybe five to seven. But 712 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: right now, what they're asking him to do is be 713 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: part of that run defense and free up other guys 714 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: so they can come up and clean up. Yeah, there's 715 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: a problem right now, there is leaking within that run defense. JJ. 716 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 1: We need you inside to help show it up. Once 717 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: that's done, maybe you can go back outside and get 718 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. And we see some quarterback hits, but 719 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: I would not mind if the quarterback SATs. We don't 720 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: see any of them, but we do see TFLs as 721 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: far as what he was able to do to Derrick 722 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: Henry and blow up plays in the backfield, and he's 723 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: had like when when Trevor Lawrence threw that that hell 724 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: Mary or pick six he was able to get in 725 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: his face. I mean, it's almost like him in Chace 726 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: had been in the backfield. It's just they haven't had 727 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: the stat to back it up, not finishing where at 728 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: the end of the game we look and say, hey, look, 729 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: you know six sacks or whatever it's But they're close 730 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: and and they're affecting the plays. You got to give 731 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: the other team's credit because they say, you can't hold 732 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: the ball against his defense. So they're they're close. I mean, 733 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: Chandler was so close last week. And I love the 734 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: fact that he on the on the Trey Lance run. 735 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: He was he was trailing, he couldn't get there, but 736 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: he forced him to go to the sidelines, and that's 737 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: where Isaiah Simmons and Tenor Vallejo lit him up. So 738 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: they're close. It's just you got they're being told get 739 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: rid of the ball, don't hold on the ball because 740 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna play into their hands. And we know that 741 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: at this point in time, it's about stabbing for the ball, 742 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: forcing turnovers. Last point I want to make about the 743 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns at the offense as we continue here on 744 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover Too, presented by Hunday Proud partner of the 745 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. You brought up the three tight ends that 746 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: they have and utilize a lot Austin Hooper, David Najoku 747 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: and Harrison Bryant. Now you look at all three of those, 748 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: and last week it was Najoku who really had the 749 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: highlights of all highlights as far as what he was 750 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: able to do from the tight end position one hundred 751 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: and forty nine yards on seven catches, including a seventy 752 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: one yard reception for a score fifty seven yards after 753 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: the catch. First Brown's tight end since twenty fifteen to 754 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: go over one hundred receiving yards. They're in there to block. 755 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, if they release, is that 756 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, is that Isaiah Simmons, Well, they've got three. 757 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: We need another guy. I mean, who's Jayalen Thompson. And 758 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: we've seen him up near the line of scrimmage a 759 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: lot more, especially last week without Byron Murphy and Marco Wilson. Yeah, 760 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: and one thing that you know, I think it was 761 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: Kyle Van and Box pointed out based on the preseason 762 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: game small sample, but this this secondary is a well 763 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: tackling team there. They're not afraid to stick their face 764 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: in the fan. And even Marco Wilson, even though he 765 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: made me a little bit more finesse because of his 766 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 1: skill set and his speed and his you know, cornerback traits. 767 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson, he'll stick his face in a fan Buddha 768 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. Sometimes you gotta, hey, slow down a little bit, 769 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: big guy, so that that's encouraging, But it's on the 770 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: d line, the front seven to not allow those guys 771 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: to get to the second layer. The joke, who also 772 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: dealing with a knee injury, by the way, did not 773 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. Again, I think a lot of this stuff. 774 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: Everyone will be available on Sunday. It's just a matter of, Okay, 775 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: you know how effective you are, how close to one 776 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: hundred percent, because once the season kicks off, you're never 777 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. But you're at ninety five percent? Are 778 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: you at ninety two percent? There are a lot of 779 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: bumps and bruises if you will that you just have 780 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: to learn to play through. Yet they show up on 781 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: the statue or excuse me, on the injury report. Yeah, 782 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm just reading a story coming out of Cleveland. Joe Woods, 783 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: as we talked about, optimistically, have all this cornerbacks and 784 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 1: defensive ends to try to slow down the high powered offense. 785 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett knee and ankle Javidy Jadeveon Clowney knee and 786 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: elbow at Tach McKinley ankle and knee. Returned to practice 787 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: Thursday after sitting out and say Clowney didn't play, and 788 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 1: he said it for the second straight day. Denzel Award, 789 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: Greg Newsom, Greedy Williams practice now. News has missed the 790 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: last two games, and according to Joe Woods, he's still 791 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 1: he's still kind of learned the position. So I don't 792 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: know how much they want to see him out there 793 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: versus some of their veteran guys. Greedy Williams is a 794 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: high pick, and we know that Denzel Awards one of 795 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: the better football players in the AFC. Both Ward and 796 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: Williams three passes defense and Williams last week a career 797 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: high ten tackles, first career of furs fumble and Newsome, 798 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: as we talked about on Wednesday, inactive the past two games. 799 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: But it's certainly trending in the direction that the Browns 800 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: are going to be healthier than perhaps they have over 801 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. Yeah, Ward told reporters he 802 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: would play in Newsom said he still needs to prove 803 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,479 Speaker 1: himself because his calf's not one hundred percent, so that's 804 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: probably be a game time decision. Really looking and I 805 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: think we say this every single week, but as far 806 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: as the matchups are concerned, the Titans was a good 807 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: because of all the preseason talk about Tennessee. The Rams 808 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 1: obviously a good test just because well they're the Rams. 809 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 1: And then the Browns. I don't know if there was 810 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: a team that was talked more about in the offseason 811 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: than the Cleveland Browns, and a lot of it was because, Hey, 812 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: it's Baker Mayfield. Maybe he's matured, Maybe this is the 813 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: season he's relying a lot on a ground game. Yet 814 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: you always look back at the quarterback and we haven't 815 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: talked a lot about Baker Mayfield outside of the individual 816 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: rivalry with him and Kyler Murray. But Mayfield is completed, 817 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: or last week completed almost seventy two percent of his 818 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: past attempts for over three hundred yards and two touchdowns. 819 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: He is, I think growing into the role of quarterback. 820 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: He's just maybe a little bit behind a Lamar Jackson, 821 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: a Josh Allen to where all of a sudden, Cleveland 822 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: fans see what's happening in Baltimore and Buffalo and wondering 823 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: why it's not happening in Cleveland, and they completely changed 824 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: her offense. And that's why I was impressed that they 825 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: went on love it in five last year. Now, I 826 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: did read over the last couple of days there. He's 827 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 1: see much more better or better quarterbacks this year than 828 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 1: last year. So that but they were eleven and five, 829 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,479 Speaker 1: and he can make all the throws. He's a tough guy. 830 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: He's not afraid to run, so you just got to 831 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: be in your pus and ques with him. But he's 832 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: got a strong arm. He can make all the throws. 833 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: And I think Kyler alluded to that, just how competitive 834 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 1: they both were when they read at Oklahoma first time 835 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: in his young career, talking about Baker Mayfield that he 836 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: has the same head coach in back to back seasons. 837 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: And that's another you know, you talk about the turnover 838 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: and the talent trying to develop. Well, if you've got 839 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: different voices in your head and then all of a 840 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: sudden you're asked to keep getting better, that's not always easy. Well, 841 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, the thought process was, you know, 842 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: like we talked about Kyler in year two, we did 843 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: see some strides and we're year three, we're seeing big 844 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: time strides. But I think they thought, you know, he 845 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: would be able to take that next step considering what 846 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: they've invested in the offensive line and the weapons they 847 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: had in the backfield. They lose another game, though, It's 848 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: it's again that divisions. You know, we'll see what the 849 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: Steelers do. Cincinnati's an up and coming team with Joe 850 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 1: Burrow in that young defense, and then you got to 851 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: deal with the Ravens. So you know, they got their 852 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: work cutter in that division. It is something that the 853 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: Cardinals need to be aware of. Yet at the same time, 854 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has been sacked thirteen times this season, so 855 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: as good as that offensive line has been, sometimes they 856 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: get had. Yet you know, we talk about you know, 857 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys always jokes. You know, there's seventy snaps in 858 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: a ball game, and I'm good for sixty eight of 859 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: the seventy. That's a great percentage. Yet the two snaps 860 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,479 Speaker 1: I was not good at. I allowed a pressure or sack, 861 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, people thought I had a 862 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: bad day. Yeah, well, they can't hand the ball off 863 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. No, they're gonna want 864 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: to if you want to get rid of the sacks 865 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: just handed off. We got more on the Cardinals Browns matchup, 866 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,439 Speaker 1: obviously on Friday when we put Mike Jarecki to work 867 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: on Thursday, he watches a little Thursday night football and 868 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: does some homework and comes back on Friday with his 869 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: three keys. He's for a victory plus the X factor 870 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: and this year the intangible. But hopefully, and Jay, because 871 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: you're gonna be so busy tonight that last night's on 872 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: Wednesday evening, you were able and hopefully everyone was able 873 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: to catch episode four of Cardinals Folk Tales Drafting Jake 874 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,760 Speaker 1: talking about Asue quarterback Jake Plummer and the Cardinals selecting 875 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: him in the second round back in nineteen ninety seven. 876 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: It is available now YouTube dot com, slash as Cardinals, 877 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash as Cardinals, plus an article and 878 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: podcast on asy Cardinals dot Com. Yeah, it brought back 879 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: a lot of great memories. I'm a big Jake Plumber fan. 880 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: You know, he kind of beats to his own drum. 881 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: He tells you how he feels. He was a wiry guy, 882 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: and you know he loved he loved balling, and you know, 883 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: early on, you know he went he had a ton 884 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: of sacks and then he I just like the way 885 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: he approached the game, even at a issue, and how 886 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 1: he approaches life after football. He's he's He's just a 887 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 1: really good dude and a good friend when you look 888 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: at just his entire career and who he is and 889 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: what he stands for. Drafting Jake, it's episode four of 890 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals Folk Tales available now. Look back at the selection 891 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: former ASU quarterback Jake Plumber in the nineteen ninety seven 892 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: NFL draft. YouTube dot com slash as Cardinals is where 893 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: you can find that, and again as Cardinals dot com 894 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: for the article and podcast that accompanies it all a 895 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 1: total package. On each of these episodes of Cardinals Folk Tales, 896 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: good show m J had a lot of fun. This 897 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: was good love dissecting these matchups. We get real in 898 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 1: depth and of course we'll kind of do it once 899 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: again but on a broader scale on Friday and really 900 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: say what the Cardinals need to do to make sure 901 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: they come out of Cleveland with a six NL record. Yeah, 902 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: this has been fun. I mean again, they're not gonna 903 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: win every game, but they should be in a lot 904 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: of games. And you know this team is now being 905 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: hunted you know they're they're hunting. I mean teams are 906 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: hunting them that there's no surprise what they're doing. And 907 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: now teams will say, we got we gotta slow these 908 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: guys down. I didn't say shut them down, and we 909 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: need to slow them down. So it's been a great 910 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: start to the season. And give the coaches in the 911 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: players a ton of credit because they put the work in. 912 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of trust there, there's there's camaraderie, there's accountability, 913 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of good things going on, and 914 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: they just they just need to stick stick together and 915 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: have that one day, one game approach, and I think 916 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 1: they're going to have a great season. As our friend 917 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: and colleague bertram Berry liked to say, coaches Sunday to Saturday, 918 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: players on Sunday, and through five games, through five weeks, 919 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: that's exactly what has transpired. Coaches put the players in 920 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: position to make plays, and the players are making plays 921 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: on game day. And on that note, we will put 922 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented 923 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: by Hunday proud partner the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special 924 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: thanks to our executive producer Jim I'm a hundred four, 925 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: Mike Drecky, I'm Greg rayel Loop. We'll talk to you 926 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two,