WEBVTT - #279 - Earn Your Leisure 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.200 Bootleg cap podcast. I've been watching these guys for a 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.000 very long time. I feel like that they are spearheading 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.959 a really dope movement of financial literacy and the hip 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.560 hop community and communities of color and just younger generations. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:13.960 I've learned a lot from y'all. Man, we got to 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:19.520 earn your leisure podcasts in the building. It's good. First 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.240 things first, how did y'all link up? We grew up together. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.520 So he's two years older than me. So I was 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.960 in sixth grade and he was in eighth grade. And 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.080 at the time, there was a member this movie Eddie 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:38.720 Woopie Goldberg Go Over with Your Coach. They had extras, 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.120 and so they took a group of kids from our 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.000 neighborhood and we went to Madison Square Garden and we 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.239 were extras in the movie. We actually never even made 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.640 the final cut, but it was pretty dope experience to 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.840 be on a movie set. So I was always hanging 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.200 around with older kids my whole life. So everybody knew 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.280 me because I was a different school, but I didn't 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.080 know him because he was new to the neighborhood. So 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.320 we were all there, and I was always kind of 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.360 like introverted, so I just stated to myself. So everybody 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:05.679 was talking to me, and he came over and he 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:07.360 was just like was talking to me, like he already 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:09.520 knew who I was, And I'm like, who is this? 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.760 Why is he talking to me? Like so that's the 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.800 first time that we met on this set of a movie. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.560 I was like twelve, he was probably like fourteen, and yeah, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.680 we just been friends ever since. You've been rocking ever since? Yeah, yeah, 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.800 what was like for me because like, well, this is 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:29.760 a random curve because you guys were a natty. I 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.880 do have a random when I watched these basketball movies 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.120 that get filmed and there's like real NBA players in them, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.440 and like people in the crowd. I always wonder if 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.759 they go in and they like pause a game. Oh 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.280 yet and they're like, all right, guys, this is for 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.280 a movie or do they like do a whole fake game. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.680 It's a whole So, like what happened was they took 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.360 us to the garden and they let us go on 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.080 the court, and like, if we made a shot, there 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.960 was people in the crowd they would chair, but it 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.840 would be cheering for us, and so then obviously they 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.400 would cut in between live footas of real games, but 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.720 the audience reaction would be actually us. That was the 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.000 first time we actually got paid for anything or any 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.120 of the Knicks actually there. So what's so funny is 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.400 that they weren't in the movie, but we were in 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.760 the garden. So they had a game that day. So 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.880 we were seeing as we were like wrapping up the shoot, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.400 we saw some of the Knicks come in. What's the 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.800 era here? It's just like Charlie word, like, this is 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:22.080 Charlie rich Child Davis. I saw him come off and 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.680 they will if I get the day correct. They were 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.360 playing the Pistons. Wow. So it was like Green Hills 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:28.800 coming to the garden and so we know what's so 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.800 crazy is that I forget this. Hubert Davis walks in 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.680 right and it's a group of us and we was 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.040 like little kids, like twelve thirteen years old. So we 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.880 seen Hubert David like you, weert what's up man, because 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.760 like can we get your autograph? And he just looked 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:44.600 and just kept and kept walking. And he's not the 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.760 guy I think we might watch. That's why Jordan will 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.000 be killing you or something. That's why that's why Menchell 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:56.000 isn't making your jersey. But I just it's just crazy 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.160 because it's like, you know, twenty years later and I 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.520 still remember that. So it's you gotta be careful how 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.160 you treat people because you never know, right, And it's 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.640 like that's something that even now to this day, we 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.120 try to, you know, accommodate people the best thing that 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.040 we possibly can, and if we can't accommodate it, we'll 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:12.760 we'll try to, like let you know why we can't 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:13.959 do this. Then we got to catch a flight. We 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.840 got I never forget, like we was little kids and 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:21.280 we saw him and he was not interested in stopping 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.880 at all. As a kid, I had great experiences with 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.200 some NBA players, but there was two. One of them 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:29.920 it's okay because it was Charles Barkley. He was an 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.600 ass outside of a Cardinals game. But the other guy, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:38.000 George McLeod's bum ass from the Suns. You remember George 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.040 McLoud like a fake three and D guy before three 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.800 and D was the thing. Fuck George McLeod, he was. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.320 It's crazy because like you guys obviously now are you know, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.720 I feel like when it comes to like financial literacy, 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.160 like I think of you guys in the same meaning 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.680 as I think of a guy like Gary Vee or 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.160 even more educational though obviously, like I feel like you 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.840 guys are giving out so much information and I've really 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.440 leveled up the last few years. Is it like you know, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.680 you guys probably go out and get recognized, get stopped 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.800 all the time at this point, right, Yeah, yeah, pretty 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.960 pretty pretty often. Man. It's something you get adjusted to. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.520 But it's not easy at first, right when you walk 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.200 around and we're from New York, so we just got 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:17.560 the New York state of mind, Like, you know, they 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.760 looking at me and they realize like, oh wait, they're 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.800 looking at me because of the things that we've done. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.479 But it's cool, man, everything's been rooted in education. I'm 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.120 glad that you brought that up. You said, you know, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.240 it's more educational because it started in the classroom for 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.240 us with teaching young kids about financial literacy, then obviously 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.680 him as a professional doing it for adults, and then realizing, 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.000 you know, there's really no age limit to this education. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.080 We really need to give it to everybody. So it's 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.160 one of those things that you know, no age limit. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.560 Outside of the content game, obviously, you guys are very 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:49.120 successful in creating great content with real substance. What before 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.039 you guys got into doing this podcast, what was like 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:57.279 your guys's main sources of income. I was I was 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.760 a teacher. So I was a middle school teacher. I 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.159 taught health and PHYSICID the guy, the pe guy. I 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:04.680 was a peg the you know, the number one place 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.039 that kids love to go. So I had a great 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.920 man only until I got into the classroom, like, Yo, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.760 what am I doing here? But it helped me. Man 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.480 helped me with with with structure, it helped me with 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.200 lesson planning, and it also helped me see what was 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.640 being taught to kids. And as I saw like my 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.320 classroom teachers, I'm just like, yo, what are we teaching 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:22.880 these kids? Like they're not going to use any of this. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.240 And that was kind of the thing that's for me, Like, Yo, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.680 there's an opportunity to teach kids things that are going 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.240 to be acquable in the future, financial literacy being one 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.040 of them. And so it kind of became the thing 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:33.400 was like, Yo, if I'm gonna get paid for this, 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.160 I'd rather be a service than a disservice. And so 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:37.960 we had an opportunity in the summer to create a 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.120 program and during the program, we're going to pay the 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.240 kids based on how they performed that their internships. And 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:44.599 you know, it was five hundred dollars, which is a 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:45.880 lot for a fourteen year old. And it was like, Yo, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.919 if we don't teach them the value of money and 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.160 the things you can do with it and how I 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.080 could be used as a tool, it's going to be 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:53.840 the same cycle. And so I was like, Yo, if 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.520 we give them information now, let's see what they'll be 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.160 got in the future. And so education, and like I said, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.919 has always been the root room for me. And it 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.160 cuts through what about you. I was a financial advisa, 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.360 so you were kind of helping the same type of 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.720 thing what I was doing now what I am doing now. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.960 So yeah, helping people with their finances, investing, insurance, retirement planning. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.839 And that's kind of how I had the idea to 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.320 go on social media because I saw that there was 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.279 a need for it. I saw the gap. I saw 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:25.000 how little people knew about finances. Even very educated people, doctors, lawyers, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.760 they didn't know about the basics when it comes to investing. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.880 So it's like, all right, vast majority of people in 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.400 this world need the information. And social media was and 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.920 is the I think the best way to reach the masses, 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.679 and that was the idea was, like, all right, let's 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.000 really double down on social media and use this as 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:50.640 a platform to you know, spread the message. Yeah. I mean, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:55.239 even me as like a semi successful guy up until 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.000 maybe like four or five years ago when I really 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.880 started watching y'all. Shit, Like, I feel like I learned 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.600 how to like really leverage my credit and leverage credit 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.720 cards in your favor through you guys, like a lot 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.320 of shit I was not doing, you know what I 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.080 mean Like that, I'm like, oh shit, there's like and 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.640 like I know that there's some states. I think there 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.680 was a state that might have been Florida. I don't 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.840 want to give Rotten DeSantis too much credit, but I 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:23.400 think Florida might be introducing financial literacy as a Florida 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.160 New Jersey. It's like twenty something states now that have 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.120 mandated financial literacy. Is still not in New York where 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.920 we're from. It so not in the majority of states, 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.080 but there are more and more states that's looking to 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.520 implement that. Yeah, for you guys, you know, we're kind 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.680 of in a weird place in terms of the economy 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.400 because like we just got out of this, like, you know, 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.400 this thing that didn't make sense and that was COVID 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.600 And somehow during the pandemic everything shot through the roof 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.880 The real estate shit was insane, like this isn't real. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.840 I kept telling everybody, guys, know, way, this is real. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.640 And I bought a house. Yeah, I took advantage of 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.560 that interest rate. And I don't plan on selling it 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.680 for a very long time, so you know, I made 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.400 that decision kind of knowing that, you know, I might 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.840 lose some equity, but it'll be all right in the 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.480 long run. But what do you like, Like the real 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.360 estate market's kind of crazy right now. A lot of 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:21.200 places are finally kind of correcting. Like what did you 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.200 guys take away from the pandemic because there was a 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.040 lot of hard assets that shot through the roofs that 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:30.040 are correcting now. Like, did you guys learn anything personally 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.000 about any because you guys, yeah, we look at you 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:34.560 as like, you know, but I feel like there was 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.640 a lot of wild shit going on from twenty twenty 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.640 to now, tons of it. Yeah. I think one of 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.880 the things we stood by was like there's always opportunities 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.600 and crisis, Like in a crisis and so two thousand 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.800 and eight deal was a crisis and it was like damn, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.080 we didn't have the capital to take advantage of it. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.000 But we were in prime position at this point to say, 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.520 all right, the market is pulled back. You know, there's 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.679 an opportunity to invest in things. You said one of 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.080 the good things was real estate, right, Like interest rates 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.280 were at two and a quarter, and it was like, wait, 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.680 this is opportunity to refinance. So this is an opportunity 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.560 to use a helot these things where we were educated on. 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.280 So it was like, all right, we're in promposition to 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.440 take advantage of it, but not only us. It was like, yo, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.800 what if our community understood that they could use it 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.720 to their advantage. And so during that time, we created 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.680 you know, our show market Mondays, which is about stock investing, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.760 and it took off because people would listening to it 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.679 and they would getting the information and they were actually 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.320 applying it. You guess we're doing that like live on Zoom, Yeah, 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.680 live every Monday. And it was like wow, people were 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.920 actually seeing positive returns and it was like, oh, this 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.320 is incredible. And there's one thing like when you give 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.040 people information, it's one thing, right, but when you give 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.880 them information and it puts money in their pocket. It 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.480 becomes totally different. It's like a totally different relationship. Now, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.640 it's like, wait, I have to come back. In fact, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.000 when I come back, I got to tell my friends 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.679 about it because this is legit. And so we was 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.000 always rooted in the education of it, but when people 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.720 started applying it was like, all right, it took it 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.640 to a different level. Yeah. The helock thing something I 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.520 just recently learned about too, and break it. What that is, 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.000 it's obviously is that that's that's a line of credit. Yeah, 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.280 take against your house, right, Yeah, a home equity line 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.480 of credit. And it's crazy because people was using that 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:09.720 to their advantages. Was like, like you said, you had 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.560 equity in your home, you could take it out, you 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.719 can use it for repairs, you can use it. A 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:15.040 lot of people are trying to use it for other 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.800 investments or you could just can't take it out without 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.720 touching it, and then it's there if you need it, 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.400 right exactly. And then what happened when we started getting 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.120 educated around it, people started taking advantage of it. Banks 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.200 started realizing and they were like, all right, well, we're 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.160 going to stop moor from this product crazy, right, because 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:31.920 it was like, oh, this is an opportunity that people 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.760 could use to their advantage. And so it's one of 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.240 those things like when you have the education and the 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.200 timing of situations happened, you got to be prepared for it. 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.920 You got to be ready to take action, because again, 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.160 if you don't, they can pull the plug and say, 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.319 all right, well it was a great opportunity, but you're 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.160 going to miss this one. Do you guys feel like 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.840 this like kind of time that we're getting into with 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.480 a lot of the you know, real estate kind of correcting. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.320 Obviously the interest rates are higher, But do you feel 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.240 like it's it's it's soon. I mean, it's d u 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.720 getting to be a not a not a seller's market, 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.800 a buyer's market. You would think that that's coming soon. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.200 Do you feel like there's going to be some dope 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.160 opportunities to scoop real estate for a lot cheaper than 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.280 I mean, obviously than a year and a half ago. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.120 You know, shit was crazy. There's always opportunities, it's just 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.320 a it depends geographically where you're at, right, So the 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.800 LA market is a lot different from Milwaukee, where like 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.199 right now you could probably buy a home in Milwaukee 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.480 for thirty thousand dollars. Forty thousand dollars, you buy a 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.360 building for fifty thousand dollars right where you can't even 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.760 buy a closet for fifty thousand dollars in La. Right, 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.960 So there's always opportunities. It's just a matter of a 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:46.040 knowing where the opportunities are. But b is there going 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.559 to be a massive correction? I don't think it'll be 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.360 a massive correction, right, It'll probably be some pullbacks in 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.000 areas like Miami or you know, certain parts in New York, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.440 like where the real estate went up a lot. Yeah, 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.040 I saw like Phoenix, Austin, like a lot of those 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.680 hot markets where things just got really crazy. I feel 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.520 like they're gonna probably. I mean, it's the number one 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.480 rule of investing, no matter whether it's doge coin, whether 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:16.760 it's Tesla's stock, whether it's Miami real estate, what goes 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.000 up must come down for sure. That's just like the 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.080 most basic way to think about anything in life. And 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.760 when things start to not make sense, eventually it's going 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.400 to start to cool off very soon. So like when 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.480 you hear Miami people paying over five hundred thousand dollars 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:32.600 over asking and a quarter million dollars over asking and 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.080 buying things in cash. Like they just got so so 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.120 crazy the last couple of years. Yeah, it has to 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.280 pull back eventually because it's just not sustainable. That's what 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.480 happened in Phoenix, Like everybody sold their houses here because 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.600 shit was at all time high and they didn't care 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.760 go into a city like Phoenix that they're moving to 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.840 and the houses are so much cheaper, they're like, oh, 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.240 i'll pay one hundred over that's still like I'm still 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.480 getting a mini mansion from where I was just coming from, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.520 and I still have pocketing a few hundred thousand dollars. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.439 So yeah, we'll see man on the crypto front, Like, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.720 how do y'all feel about crypto now? Because obviously a 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.320 lot of shit has crashed. I've lost some money, for sure, 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.880 not as much, but I lost money in twenty seventeen 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.320 pretty bad because this fucking guy had convinced me to 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:19.400 buyo this ripple. Yeah whatever, and you didn't sell it 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.880 when you had all that money anyway, But how do 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.280 you guys feel about like kind of like obviously because 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.200 I kind of look at crypto as like similar to 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:30.240 like the dot com dot com bubble that happened. You know, 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.200 there was a lot of low hanging fruit scam shit 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.640 going on. But I do feel like like the technology 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.720 of blockchain is something that will probably be around and be, 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.600 you know, a utility for a long time to come. 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.199 But what do you how do y'all feel about it? 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.119 I think crypto is here. The idea of blockchain technology 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.920 is very real, it has very real use cases, and 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:56.120 it's actually being used right now. The functionality and the 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.880 purpose of crypto still has to kind of be worked out. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.920 I feel like it's not something that is really necessary 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.080 right now. Like they still have to kind of figure 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:07.760 out because even if you look at bitcoin, which is 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.760 the most popular cryptocurrency, most people are looking at that 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.600 as a store of value. They're not looking at it. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.320 The word currency is a little misleading because it's not 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.600 being used as currency. It's being hot. They're parking their money. Yeah, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.160 it's more of an investment or you're just hoarding it 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.040 right hoping that it goes up in value. Nobody's going 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.080 to the store and pulling out their bitcoin card and 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.440 shopping at time. Yeah, and it's it's in order for 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.760 currency to be used, it has to be some level 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.480 of stability, like I can't get my head cut today 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.320 for twenty dollars and then go back tomorrow and it 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.480 is fifty dollars, and then the next week is ten dollars. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:43.400 Like that makes sense, And that's how volatile cryptocurrency is. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.200 So right now we're in a winter for crypto. But 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.320 historically crypto has always had these cycles where it's going 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.600 up and then it's going down, then it's going up, 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:57.080 and it's going down. So if history repeats itself, it 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.120 will go up again. But I think it's important to 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.720 to really, you know, if you're going to invest in cryptocurrency, 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:08.880 use coins that have a strong chance of surviving. So 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:14.280 ethereum big coin you said, XRP, different things of that nature, 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.280 where it's like a lot of these meme coins like 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.200 the doge coin and a bunch of these other coins. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.480 It was just like a get rich quick scheme. It 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.440 wasn't really based around any fundamentals, it wasn't based around 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.840 any use case. It was just based around all right, 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.360 let's just pump this coin and everybody had a coin. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.440 My friend who's sitting to the right of me, yeah, 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.480 he thought it was a great idea to invest in 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.280 the coin that Willy D from the Ghetto Boys with 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:44.480 spearheading Willie D Coin, And I was like, and I 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:49.800 was like, I was like, I was like, Willie d 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.960 D a legend. Yeah, for sure, shout out to us. Yeah, 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.080 well you lost all your money. Yeah, I think. I mean, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:58.960 you said it best. I think when you compared it 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.560 to the dot com it makes it's a good analogy. Yeah, right, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.360 But the key is right when the dot com bubble started, 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.960 you had AOLS and you had excite dot coms, right, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:09.920 but you also had Yahoo and you had Amazon. It's 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:11.520 about figuring out which one is going to have the 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.880 long term sustainability. And as we get further inside the 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.600 space of cryptocurrency, and they'll be better and more improved. Coins. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.720 Obviously spoke about the two most prevalent ones. But you 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.320 know Google comes to a two thousand and six or 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.440 YouTube comes in two thousand and six, right, So there's 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.920 an evolution that will happen. It'll become more of a 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.600 use case scenario and it'll be more improved. But it's 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.080 not going anywhere. Right. We've seen this in twenty twelve. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.920 You mentioned twenty seventeen, we felt that pain too. Right, 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.000 we had money in the space and didn't take it out. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.360 I should have sold them. But it's one of those 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.120 things if we're looking at it as a short term 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.960 investment or a long term investment, and so we tend 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.960 to look at things in the long term. Right, So 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.320 it's a space that you will be in and we're 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.880 going to stay in. Right for you, guys, I always 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.440 hear like people say, like, you want to have a 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:00.200 diverse portfolio of investments. Right, there's real estate, there's the 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.160 stock market, there's hard assets. Like what would be your 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.280 guys's advice in terms of like how that should be 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:09.680 broken up? Yeah, yeah, you definitely want to diversify. I mean, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.720 as far as real estate, at the very least, you 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:15.480 should try to own where you live. That's a goal 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.600 that you can at least try to achieve it. And 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.760 some people, some people who are like really rich, say 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:24.080 the opposite. They like have investment properties, but they rent where. Yeah. Well, 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.280 another thing is that for the average person, you can 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.000 own a multi family home. Right. So it's like, because 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.840 that idea is that your home isn't really an investment, 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.400 and if you look at it from that standpoint where 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.000 it's not actually bringing you cash flow, then that's true. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.480 But if you have a multi family home, and I 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.600 don't know if there's a lot of multi families in California, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.359 but I know there are actually, Yeah, so if you 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.800 have a multifamily, now that is an investment that is 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.920 bringing you cash flow and potentially can be you know, 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.320 you could be making money on that as opposed to 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.360 just shuffling money out every single month just to pay 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.480 the mortgage. So that's a good way to even start 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.960 just your investment portfolio. Right. Like, as far as for 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:06.880 the average person, if you just want to start investing 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.760 in real estate, get a multi family home as your 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.280 first investment. Live there. Now you kill two birds, live 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.159 in one, right and rent out the other two units. Right, 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.679 So now, like I said, you kill two birds with 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.280 one stone. Or if you're a business owner, now you 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.359 can live upstairs and your business could be downstairs, and 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.639 then you can rent the other place, you know, if 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:30.960 there's another unit as well. So that's important. And investing 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.399 in the stock market is important as well. Right, you 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.640 want to have some money that's going into stocks long term, 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:41.280 not necessarily like day trading or taking risky bets, but 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.439 you know, we talk about index funds and ETF stuff 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.320 like that, and then you know it's important to say 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.240 for your retirement as well. So if you have a job, 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.240 a lot of jobs, they offer four to one K plans. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.520 If you're self employed, you can have an IRA. So 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.760 now you have, you know, three different things working for you. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.280 You have your retirement, you have your regular stocks, you 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.080 have your real estate play right now, you're develop in 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:00.840 a portfolio. If you have kids, you might want to 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.000 do a college savings plan for them or UTMAH, which 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.879 is allowing you to put money into their investment account. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.040 So now you can start to do some other things. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.600 But those like the three three pillars, I think as 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.639 far as investing, it's concerned for the average person, like 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:18.800 real estate, investing in stocks, just regular brokerage, and then 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.960 retirement account. So like a retirement account, like there's so 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.639 many different ones, and this is something that I'm still like, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.000 I mean, obviously had a four oh one K for 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.560 a long time. I just rolled into an IRA because 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:33.359 I don't work for anybody anymore. But there's like the 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.600 roth IRA, right, like like can you guys kind of 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.240 give me like a breakdown of the differences between those accounts, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.439 some pay do some pay dividends or so it depends 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.119 on how you invest it. So like a IRA is 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.040 an individual retirement account, and you could put it sixty 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:48.440 down I think sixty five. They might have raised it 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.000 to like sixty five hundred to put this year. But 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.639 you put money in and it lowers your taxable income. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.000 So if you put five thousand dollars into an IRA, 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.000 you make one hundred thousand dollars. Now you only pay 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.800 taxes on ninety five thousand. So the money grows and 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:01.760 you can invest the money in a variety of different ways. 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:03.960 So you can invest the money in the SMP, you 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.000 can invest the money in the apple stock. You can 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.000 invest the money in you know, dividend paying companies and 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.199 have the dividends go back into the investment account. So 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:13.680 it's really up to you as far as how you 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:15.800 choose to invest it or who you're working with invests 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:19.280 it for you. But the main benefit is a tax benefit. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.320 That's the difference between just investing it just regular and 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:23.879 investing it in the IRA is that you get a 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.760 tax benefit. Then there was a rough IRA, which is 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.840 a retirement vehicle as well, but you don't get a 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.359 tax benefit from it up front. So if you make 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.520 a hundred thousand, you put five thousand into the row, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.960 if you're still taxed on one hundred thousand, But when 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.439 you take the money out in retirement is tax free. 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.920 So like when you take money out of a retirement 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.120 account of four to one k or IRA, you get tax. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:46.960 You pay state and federal tax. So if you have 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.560 a million dollars, right, and let's say you take out 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:52.679 the whole amount at one time when you're seventy years old, 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.600 now you know you pay federal tax, but that'll put 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.480 you in the highest federal tax bracket because it's treated 0:20:57.520 --> 0:20:59.760 like ordinary income. And then depending on what state, like 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.240 live in California, is the highest state tax thirteen point Well, 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:04.800 you could you could be paying up to like fifty 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:06.520 percent of the money in taxes. So if you take 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.320 out a million, you might net a five hundred thousand. Crazy. 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:11.760 So but if you have a row and you take 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.919 out a million, you don't pay any taxes, so you 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.720 get one million dollars. So the difference between a WROTH 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:21.480 and a regular IRA is the tax benefits come. One 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.040 is at the beginning, one is at the end. Correct. Yeah, 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.080 So if you're like making decent money, you're kind of 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.679 like fucking up if you're not doing a little bit 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.560 of both, would that be fair? Especially within his income 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.760 limits too. So so it gets a little tricky because 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.040 then it's like, if you make too much money, then well, 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.240 if you're if you're if you're self employed, you can 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.040 you can put money into an ira, no matter how 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:44.600 much money you make. But if you have a job 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.000 and you make too much money, then this income limits debt, 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.520 you can't put money into an ira. So now that's 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.440 why the four one k is beneficial because you could 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.119 put a lot more money into a four one K 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.560 as opposed you could put like three times more money 0:21:57.600 --> 0:21:59.520 into a four and one k then you could put 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.280 into an ira. Yeah, and then if you're self employed, 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:05.639 you can have what's called the sep ira and you 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.040 can put up like sixty thousand dollars a year into 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:11.880 accept ira. What's the tax tax situation with that? It's 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.159 the same you get do you get the tax benefits 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:15.960 on the front of the on the front on the front. Yeah, 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:17.720 it's like a regular ira, but you just put way 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:19.520 more money in. So if you have a sep ira, 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.280 ri r Ira and Let's say I make three hundred 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.320 thousand dollars and I put fifty in. I'm taxed on fifty. 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:32.160 It's a percentage of it's twenty percent of your income 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.560 the lesser of twenty percent or like sixty thousand dollars. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:37.880 And don't quote me on that, but I think that 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:42.040 that's that's around what it is. So it's like a 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.560 calculator to see like which one which one is less? 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.320 Is less? Yeah, but it allows you to put a 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:49.959 lot more money. Then it's like, you know, you have 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.600 the fine benefit plan, you have pension plans. So these 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.720 are all ways that you know. And this is why 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:57.800 education is important, right, because it's like the average person 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.480 is not. They don't care about this or anything, right, 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.000 It's like who cares? But if you're saving three hundred 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.119 thousand dollars a year or you're saving one hundred thousand 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.800 dollars a year, you start to care, right, you know, 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.480 you start to care. It's like, damn, that's a lot 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.399 of money. It's like this this equals and millions and 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.400 millions of dollars. And now you see why the rich 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:18.840 get richer, right, because they're implementing these strategies at a 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.480 very high level. So now they're figuring out how to 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.960 save millions of dollars, how to pay no taxes, how 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.800 to have real estate, and how to actually get money 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.600 back from the government because of you know, different incentives 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.159 and you're talking about opportunity zones and different things of 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.000 that nature. Like there's so many things that's put in 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:39.919 place for the educated and the wealthy to take advantage of, 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:43.400 and then the middle class and then the poor are 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.639 just uneducated and they're not financially in a position to 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.480 do anything, so they never really even think about it. Yeah, 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:54.520 so's it's almost like if you're self employed, right and 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:56.600 you're doing like let's say you're own a business or 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.600 a laundry mat or whatever you're doing, right, there's so 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.120 like we always hear how like Donald Trump don't pay 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.160 taxes or Google doesn't pay taxes, and there's so many 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.080 things you can do instead of writing a check to 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:13.119 the irs. That's the goal, right, you know, I just 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.440 did this like historically my whole life, Like no, I drive, 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:20.600 like shit, I'm a terrible driver. I hate car payments. 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.480 You could ask this guy. I've been kind of like 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:27.280 paid off Toyota my whole life and then I crash 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.200 and I get another paid off car. But like, I 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.879 had like a fucking crazy tax bill last year, and 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.480 my CPA was like, and this was like end in November, 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.000 and she was like, hey, go find a fucking one 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:42.399 hundred thousand dollars car. So I went and buy a car. 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.159 And I don't feel as bad about it now, you know, 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:49.680 because I was gonna either pay the irs or drive 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.679 a car. You know. Yeah the truck car. It was 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:55.760 a truck six pounds there we go, yeah, yeah, I mean, 0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:57.760 but this is the education around. We hear these things 0:24:57.800 --> 0:24:59.800 and it's like, like you just said, you spoke about 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:02.240 the the royal ira for one came even like he said, 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.600 opportunity zones. We just hear these terms and that's kind 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.320 of like, uh, we never know what that means, right, 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:09.320 And then you have to do the education behind and 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.439 it's like, oh, right, well, opportunity zones, how do we 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.320 get that? Well, you have to have capital gains? Well, 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.600 how many of us have capital gains that are over 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.159 a million dollars? Right? And then you realize what we 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.920 can't even participate. There's first education, But then you realize, wait, 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.360 there's a business structure that we're not even a part 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.159 of yet to even be considered to be in this. 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.960 So the education part is the most important. You said, 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.959 what are the things we should invest in? Started investing 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.200 in your education first, right, and then start building those 0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.920 things that we were just talking about. Me And thanks 0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.639 to you guys. Like I mean, I know you guys monetize, 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:40.919 like what you do. Like I'm sure you guys have 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.120 courses and ship, but like you guys are giving away 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.639 all the game for free. That's why I love Russ. 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:49.080 Russ is a rapper who you know. I love Russ 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:53.200 because Russ is like he's people don't like him, but 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.880 he's really giving y'all the fucking crash course of free game, 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.480 like selfless free game and Russell, you know what I mean, 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:02.760 Like these guys like and you guys have the rustle on, 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.480 but like these guys are like just giving away game 0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:07.280 and you guys are giving away game, you know what 0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.600 I mean. I think it's dope because I see some guys. Man, 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:18.600 there was this one dude, ty Lopez's, Oh my god's right, 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.000 just the cringiest dude on the internet man, And like 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.359 he would be doing these videos that pop up on 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.199 my fucking ship would be like in front of his 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:30.280 Lamborghini do you want this sign up? And like it's 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.680 just dope that. I mean, you and you guys aren't 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:34.920 aren't the same, you guys are. I look at you 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:36.840 as an educational platform. I look at guys like that 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.919 or Gary Vee is like motivational. You know, what do 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.199 you guys think of I saw you guys speak on 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.720 this a little. I didn't watch your guys' video on it, 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:50.520 but the Grand cardoone situation. Obviously, Grant's successful. His book 0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:52.840 is cool. But then once I started to kind of 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.680 see him on YouTube, I was like, oh, this guy's 0:26:54.720 --> 0:27:00.560 kind of a cocksucker Loki respectfully, like very success guy. 0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.920 You know, I get it, his book is cool. If 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.680 like if I if I read his book and didn't 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.720 hear how he talked, you know what I mean? Or like, 0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.200 you know, I'm like, oh, this guy's like, you know, 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.480 he's kind of a douche back, but you know, successful. 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:15.840 But there's a lot being made of some of the 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.600 older clips of him talking about how he talks to 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:22.399 the urban community. When you guys see a guy like 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.280 that as somebody who's in that community, who's helping educate 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.040 that community from a genuine place? You know, how do 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.440 you guys feel about that? And I'm sure you guys 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.200 already talked about it because I saw you. I feel 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.720 like it's a marketing strategy, right, So it's like my 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.439 whole thing is, like, you don't have to be black 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:42.840 to be part of hip hop culture. Like you could 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.840 be Asian, you could be white, you could be Latino 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:48.040 like you know, but if you're not a part of 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:53.440 hip hop culture, I don't understand the fascination with trying 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.840 to go over and above to try to identify with 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:58.720 something that you really didn't grow up and you're not 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.240 really passionate about. Like I don't think he's listening to 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.120 Rick Ross's mixtapes, Like why are you hanging around Ross? 0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:08.320 Like when we do it, like it's from a genuine place, 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.000 like before we did this, like we would debate rap 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.480 for hours, like we would debate basketball for hours, Like 0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.800 this is just who we are, Like we can't appropriate 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:20.119 our culture. We are the culture, you know what I'm saying. So, 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.520 but I feel like him and a variety of other 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:27.119 people they use hip hop culture as a way to 0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:33.040 gain notoriety, credibility in the space because everybody knows, like 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.200 you know, once hip hop stamp shoot like that means 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.040 a lot, right, And it's like some things are worth 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.880 more than money. So we don't have the economic power, 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:46.240 but we have the cultural capital. And the cultural capital 0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:50.240 is extremely important and it's extremely valuable. So they see 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.440 that from a business standpoint, they're like, all right, well, 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.400 these rappers, they've been lit for years and they move. 0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.520 Look what we did to fashion, for instance, right, So 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:04.240 it's like from Tommy, he'll figure it out. From Tommy, 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:09.480 he'll figure it to Balinciaga, to Gucci, Tonike, to anything anything, 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.280 any any fashion that's lit. It has to be standing 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.400 by the earth. And that's the thing. So let's take 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:15.760 a high end fact because we spoke with that, but 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.800 dance he was saying, like Gucci, like hip hop culture 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:21.520 probably makes up like five percent of the total pie 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.240 that makes Gucci. Right, that's a valid point, but it 0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:29.120 makes up probably ninety five percent of the influence of 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:32.000 why of why other people are buying it, right, because 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:36.080 it's become so popular. So it's just like Crystal Christal 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.840 hip hop problem exactly. So even if hip hop wasn't 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.120 the number one source of revenue. It became the number 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.280 one source of influence, which made other people want to 0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.920 buy it because it became so popular. So I think 0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.800 people in business have adopted that same strategy where it's like, 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:56.880 all right, even if these aren't my number one consumers, 0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.120 I'm not going to make a tremendous amount of money 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.680 with this community. I can gain a lot of notoriety 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.520 from this community, which would help me make money with 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.600 other communities. So I think that, you know, he's one 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:13.320 of these people that have adapted adopted that strategy, and 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.880 you know it's it's it's a business ploy so it's 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:18.920 it's up to us to see how we feel about it, 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.280 if we accept it or not. But I just feel 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.920 like it's not from a genuine place when you do 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.600 things like that. And like I said, it's not to 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:28.320 say that you can't hang out with rappers, it's not 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.800 to say you can't, you know, go to an NBA game, 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:35.240 But if you if your goal is to embrace culture, 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.840 then you looking at it like music is the only 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.640 part of the culture that's kind offensive because it's like, 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.000 all right, like you're saying, the only thing that we 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.640 bring to the table is entertainment. So if you really 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:53.000 are truly passionate about embracing our culture, then embrace all 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.200 aspects of the culture. Music is a part of it, 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.600 but so is social justice. So it's economics, right, so 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.400 is science. So it's a variety of other things. And 0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:06.080 I never see these people hanging out with political activists. 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.760 I never seen them hanging out with you know, leaders 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.479 in business. I never see them hanging out with the 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:16.280 young tech entrepreneur that's that's in HBCU trying to get 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.520 a startup company done. I only see them hanging out 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:22.480 with rapids. So it becomes questionable as far as their motivation. 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.160 It goes to the part when he's saying like it's awareness, right, 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.800 Like our job is like, all right, let's make the 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.040 people aware of what's happening. If they're not, but they 0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.960 choose to do with it, it's going to be on them, right. 0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.160 There's still people that are going to that champion. But 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.320 it was not surprising. We seen, like you said, we've 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.560 seen us play plenty of times. But the problem was 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.680 for so long we couldn't quantify it. How do we 0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.960 quantify the influence? Right? We can say that this is 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:45.880 the customer base because we can see a sales, but 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.680 how do you quantify justify the level of influence like 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.320 we know it? But from the business standpoint, it's like, well, 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.840 the numbers don't match that until you get a situation 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:58.320 like Kanye and Adita, right, and then you see cultural capital, 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.160 cultural influence removed both and let's see what happens to 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:03.200 the business. And that's what that happened. They're going through 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.720 right now. It's like, well, we just lost two billion dollars. Yeah, 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.840 let's bring it back to the table because we need 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.880 to sell this right, Can we come back? Can we 0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.800 can we renegotiate how we're gonna again be cool or 0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.640 a pair cool to the community that we know got 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.240 us to this level and have you say it's okay 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.200 to sell these things again? If not, what are we 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.080 going to do with this merchandise? How are we going 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:23.840 to move it? What's going to happen to our brand? 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.240 What's going to happen to the people that are existing 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.600 on our brand? If that guy says like, we're not 0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.000 rocking with you, and his core audience says we're not 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.880 rocking with you anymore, which is our culture? Yeah, I 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:38.320 think Kanye is probably single handedly like the most influential. 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.320 I mean, I mean shit, I can't think anybody is 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.560 more influential in terms of culture and fashion. And like 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.160 you know, he's obviously said some things that are questionable 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.920 read true, but man, no, I mean he's the guy 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.840 right as your Sh'S it's up. But he sets the 0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.120 standard now, right, Like Yo, there's the cultural capital, there's 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.000 a cultural influence together. And look what happens now we 0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.400 can quantify it now that there's measurables to say, like 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.800 that happened because this was removed, and like it's crazy 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.560 because like when Yeezy first came out, everyone was like, man, 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:10.400 these are hobo clothes and the earth Tones and everybody's 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:14.760 everybody's wearing the ship. Let's talk about hip hop, guys. 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.600 I don't want to, I don't. I mean, give me 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.520 each one of your guys's top five favorite albums. Favorite albums, 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:27.320 not mcs because that's hip hop rap rap rap. For me, 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.800 my favorite album of all time, it was written Okay 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.520 but No Affirmative Action is one of my favorite songs ever. 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.200 It was written that changed my life, so it was 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.160 written I would go with that another album that changed 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:43.400 my life. Is the infamous by Ma Yes Yo Big. 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:47.400 I remember I met Big Noid in Tampa. I was 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:52.080 just like, bro give that's a classic verse. Oh my god. 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.040 Sometimes I wish I had three different faces. Shout out 0:33:56.080 --> 0:34:00.640 Tonoid man, rest in peace to Prodigy. For sure, I 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.880 would speed it up to a little current times. Victory 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.520 Lap is definitely a favorite of mine. Yeah, I think 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:14.320 a very classic album and as aged gracefully gets better. Yeah, agree, 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:22.320 it's up there. I probably would go Life After Death, Biggie, 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:27.680 that's up there for me. And then another album that 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.520 changed my life was Volume two from jay Z. That's 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.400 probably my favorite jay Z album. That's an interesting favorite 0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.040 jay Z album choice, Yeah, because for me, it's moments 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.920 in time, right. So it's like everybody's gonna say Illmatic 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.680 is the favorite NAS album, but Illmatic I appreciated Ellmatic. 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.600 I was ten years old, but when it was written 0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.680 came out, I was twelve years old. You don't really 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.960 see that much. It's a big difference between being ten 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.160 and twelve, for sure. So when I was twelve and 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.440 it was like I was coming into becoming a man 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.200 and I can understand it and now it's real shit, 0:34:58.280 --> 0:34:59.560 like you know, what I'm saying like coming to your man. 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.480 You know you're going to I'm going to puberty, You're 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.080 becoming a young adult. So it's like everything that he 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.200 was just saying, it was just hitting me different short 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.799 and it was like, so the same thing with Volume two. 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.360 Like I was in middle school when that came out, 0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:19.040 and I never forget, like everybody was playing that album, man, 0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.400 and that was like the album that changed five million records' 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.439 so five million records and it was like every song 0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.840 on that album is just dope and the delivery and everything. 0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.319 So it's like that was a moment in time and 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.000 that was the transition for jay Z because we had 0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:36.600 New jay Z's for a long time as far as 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.799 his music was concerning. Now that is the album that 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.360 sparked the Hard Knock Life tour. Yeah, that was that 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.919 was everything. He was never the same after the album 0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:47.239 he was. He became hole, he became whole album. So 0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.680 that's my top five hip hop album. About top five, 0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:52.840 I'll change it because we got some of the similar ones. 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.759 Ellmatic is my favorite album of any genre of all time. 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.040 I'm there with you that dog style for me, But 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.319 so like in the in the studio. We got the 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.360 albums like looking at us, that doggy Style is definitely 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:10.399 on the only built a Links is in there. Life 0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.960 after Death is definitely I think that the greatest double 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.719 CD ever made. Sure better than Ready to Die to 0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:23.400 a lot a lot better Ready to Die, he said 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.520 the mob Deep Joint. So I'll go I'll go with 0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.600 one of my favorite guys of all time. I'll say 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.759 The Carter Too is one of my favorite albums all 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:33.359 the time. Wayne, Wayne is my guy. I'm a die 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:38.120 hard Wayne guy. And then man, there's there's a couple 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:43.279 that are super important. If I have to, if I 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.960 have to, It's It's It's Jay, but it's too I'm 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.680 gonna go to for J. I think Blueprint for J 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.920 and four for four. It's one of my favorite albums 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.640 just because of the growth right like we had. We 0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.400 saw some of our rappers not make it to adulthood, 0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.200 to fatherhood, to fully mature. So to watch him from 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:10.880 reasonable doubt to get to volume one, volume two obviously 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.960 Blueprint and then to grow and have transgressions and have 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.520 life experience and to express that. Plus the financial literacy 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.600 piece inside tons of tons of gems like kind of 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:26.759 the first like successful, like grown up, yeah, like grown man, 0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:28.960 Like now is that life is good? And I was like, oh, 0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.200 that's growth, that's fatherhood. We're experiencing these things at the 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.080 same time, and like now he's talking about financial literacy 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.279 and four for four and he's talking about marriage and 0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.640 he's talking about like real grown man ship and legacy 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:40.719 and we're going through those things in real life. And 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.920 I'm like, yo, this is probably one of my favorite 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:44.799 pieces of work that he's ever done. So those are 0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.960 my five. And if we had to count Lawrence Hill's 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.719 Miseducation and his hip Hop, we thought that in it. Yeah, 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:55.520 I mean, yo, yeah, you guys, I would uh Volume 0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.120 two four for four of those, I mean you know. 0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.400 I would say about jay Z is like there's a 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.680 couple of jay Z albums that I just did not like. 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.239 Magna Car The Holy Girl was one that just kind 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:06.600 of he tried to advance us in the art world 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.360 on that one. We wasn't ready. We got a fucking 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:14.240 Sam song for Nicholas and Dimes. I still we forgive 0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:18.320 them for that one. And the album that people dislike 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:22.560 that I love is Blueprint too, because the double or 0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.920 the Point one is the better one because they kind 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.839 of took all the best songs and they but that 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:33.280 Meet the Parents is so mad, even like the Blueprint 0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.440 two record, That Blueprint or that just Play is produced 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.879 with like the with the flutes and Ship, Oh yeah, 0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:41.600 that ship is crazy. He was. It was like the 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:45.120 last time he took shots at nas. Yeah, because coofie 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.880 don't mean it be right, yes, because you don't understand 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:49.640 that it don't mean it to to be nice. It's been 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.680 dope to see you guys interviewing artists now, and I 0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.920 think you guys are interviewing artists from like away, Like 0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.239 I love the perspective when you guys talk to someone 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.440 like the Russell Rick Ross, like for you guys like 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:05.120 kind of going from being like a I mean, you 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:09.200 guys are still independent, but you guys obviously have blown 0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.920 up and you guys are doing dope ship now with 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:13.839 Revolt and doing all you guys are doing a lot 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.160 of cool shit. Like how cool is it to be 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.239 able to interview a guy like Rick Ross and have 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:23.440 conversations with these guys that you guys dope. It's a 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:28.319 real moment, Like you know, as far as fans before anything, sure, 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:32.320 listening to music growing up and arguing, having debates, having 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:36.399 fights about music like you know I have. I used 0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:40.040 to have almost physical fist fights about Nas and jay 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.520 Z And during that time, I fucking was team Nas 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.360 so hard. I just refused to listen to jay Z 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.239 for about a year. So it's like them. So now 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.239 that have Dan Dashed on speed Own, it's crazy, like 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:53.680 you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's not even 0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.880 a surreal moment, and it's just like Rick Ross, like 0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.560 being in his house and chopping it up with him, 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.000 like no saying, like having conversations with I t. I 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.480 was one of my favorite rappers of all time. Talking 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:07.000 to TI, I like trap music, Urban Legend or King? 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.440 Where are you at all of them? Okay, all you 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.040 gotta pick one trap music to me because that said 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.440 the vibe he changed and he's got that doing my 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:16.840 job on there. But that a y I think that 0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.600 was a Kanye It was it. I feel like from 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.920 a musical standpoint, he got into his bag with Urban 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:29.400 Legend and the King album. Urban Legend is probably my 0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:34.080 favorite album. But trap music, I mean he created trap music. 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.279 He said it. He's the first person to say trap music. 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.640 So like that alone is Hall of Fame status, but 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.640 she would just leave this boozy thing alone. I saw 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:44.719 a video last night and him at his restaurant on 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.680 the mic holding up the paperwork, and it was like, 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.360 you know what, somebody somebody talking to us the other day. 0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.360 I think it was Big Boy. It was like, you 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.920 live long enough to for people to hate you. They 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.680 start to see flaws in you. They start to say, oh, yeah, yeah, 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.200 your music is wag and it's it's unfortunate, right, because 0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:06.759 it's like the longer you live, the more opportunities you 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.359 have to fuck up to be discredited. Yeah, because you're 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.560 under the If you're as famous as Tie, you're famous. 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.040 Tips I guy man, he's a he's a close friend 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.439 of the show. I think one of the funny things 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.160 he said is like, I don't I don't like somebody 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.000 that get fly and then get shy, like yo, those 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:24.960 don't talk crazy and then not show up when they 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.360 invited to prove or to try to discribe me and 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.040 not you know, come to see what it's actually true. 0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:32.520 I just think like certain ship should be like the 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.640 Tip Tips I guy, you know TI, I think is 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.880 like he's t I don't even acknowledge the ship, like 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:39.719 just keep it moving your tip, bro, like you're one 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:41.840 of the ghosts. It's crazy, man, I mean that's what 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.960 I'm saying. Like we hip hop babies, like I always 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.239 like I'm literally like a hip hop baby born in 0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.279 South Bronx, grew up listening to rock Can and kar 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:53.320 Rest up until this point now where it's like obviously 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.160 you heard the list of people that we named it 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.480 our albums, Like getting to meet Nas and him telling 0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.560 us that he listens to what we're doing, Like like 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.360 think about the nostalgia that that It's just like one 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:04.520 of these moments in might be like ya, this is real. 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.080 Like this guy we listen to growing up and helped 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:08.920 shape and mold some of the things and how we 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.520 saw life is now listening to us for what we 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.840 do in education and the financial space. It's like pretty crazy. 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.680 Like even like the way we look at Jay and 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.480 being able to be at the Rock Nation brunch, it 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.680 like right, like this is real life. That's the kind 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.839 of shit you see on Instagram every year. It's like, yeah, 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.040 you see it and now you're there and like you know, 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.160 we looked up like we watched these guys like we 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.759 watched Puff and now to know Puff and sit with 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.319 him and him tell us how important the work we're doing. 0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.400 It's like it's not something you can write in a script. 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.720 It's just like kind of surreal because we're living these moments. 0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.719 But we have a reverence for these people, you know 0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:43.000 what I'm saying, Like, like you said, Tip is this 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.000 guy and like like we we allgue you all the time. 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:47.680 He's like, yo, I used to say, yo, Wayne's the 0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.440 best rapp alive and he's like, no, Tips the best 0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.400 too from the South. 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Yes, but my best friend, 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.799 he always says, it's like I know his top five albums. Right. 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:52.759 So we're on comments score Bus and I'm like, hey, 0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:56.719 you have his third favorite album of all time and 0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.680 he's like third, what are the other two? I'm like, dude, 0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:04.279 he loves Resurrection, but he thinks a Quemini is much better. Ceminize. 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.360 That's another class I got right there. I got it. 0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.080 This is on my wall too, Yeah, I got that 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.279 man love. Hey, who's the goat from the Bronx. I'm 0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:14.080 gonna listen. If I'm forgetting it, it's gotta be Caress 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:18.600 fat Joor pun Right, I'll say this is fat Joe 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:22.640 because of the longer big pun. Kress is the pioneer 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.439 and he's he's always gonna be the godfather, right, Big 0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.200 Pun was the lyrical assassin. I mean, Big Pun is 0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.040 the best rapper. He's a he just didn't have to 0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:36.239 have a long enough Fat Joe. Fat Joe is one 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.680 of the most underrated people in hip hop history because 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.399 all the time. He came out in ninety two and 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:44.319 he's still relevant. He's more relevant now he's ever was, 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:46.960 not even just from rapping, just from a personality standpoint. 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.080 He just loved like he's like he's like kind of 0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.000 like the East Coast Snoop kind of yeah, you know, 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.480 just love you see him. You know, he's like thirty 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.640 years in the game, and he's just as relevant now 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:59.120 as he ever was. And he has a lot of 0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.080 hit records, and he's a beast of a rap Like 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.480 he's an m C s MC you can rap. I 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.399 gets fucking verse on like Big L's album, Like man 0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:12.399 is one of those guys one krs. Yeah, it's gotta 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.000 be Fat Joe for a while, Like even to middle school. 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:16.400 If people ask me who the best rapper was, I 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:20.239 would tell you Krus. But like you said, it's a longevity, yeah, 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.480 and those guys, it's it's unfortunate because they're not The 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.160 thing is, like like the Pioneers, they're not that much 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.240 older than some of the guys we hold in deep reference. 0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:31.440 Like you said, came out in ninety. Gangster is a O. 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.560 G J and jay Z are not far in h right. 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.360 There might be a three year age difference, but we 0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:38.279 look at them very differently when we talk about their 0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.879 hip hop. Cardi B's up there because she's probably idn't 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:45.720 think she's the most she's the most commercially successful artist 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:49.239 to ever come out of the French. French TiO I 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.120 think French. You gotta put French as far as like 0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:54.480 as we're talking about commercial success and singles and music 0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:57.239 that's dominated. You got a Dimon record, Now Cardi has 0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.840 two Dimon record. Cardi is way more musically said, we 0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.040 got put them in a conversation for the Bronx, that's yeah. 0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.720 If we're talking lyrics and if you're putting the five together, 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:06.880 Remy got to be in there. If we're talking just lyrics, 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:09.880 but you gotta you got to mention your friends. As 0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:13.839 far as commercial success, that's the best album though it's 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:19.320 Capital Punishment or from the Bronx Invasion of Privacy. You know, 0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:21.479 that's a great album. That Cardi b album is great. 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:23.760 I can't even front that she was good and I'm 0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.319 a guy that was great Historically, Like I don't relate 0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:28.400 to a lot of women's like music get up, but 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:32.840 that Cardio album is crazy. She delivered. Definitely. She's a 0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:36.239 historical figure when it comes to hip hop already. She's 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.000 done so much with and it's like she only has 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.440 one album. I mean, she has a mixtape ship. But 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.520 like if we're thinking, like since like the world is 0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.600 known Cardi Invasion of Privacy and a bunch of bunch 0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:47.759 of hits she's held. She's held a wave for like 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.600 eight years now, Like she's held the throng and she's 0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:52.640 like he held it for a long time. Shout out 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.920 to Nikki another New Yorker. I'm just saying, I don't know. 0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:58.960 It could be longer than that. I don't know, but 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:03.080 that was It's like twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, late twenty seventeen. 0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.040 She wanted to Grammy into twenty nineteen, So what six years? Okay, 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.240 six years, so she's she's been a number one female 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.600 artist for six years. Nicki Minaj had it for a 0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:14.000 long time and then Carti took it. Yeah, I think 0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.520 the difference between like I think Cardi is like probably 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:21.040 the most in my opinion, like likable personality. Like people 0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.239 just related her. She's very hilarious, Like she got to 0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.720 McDonald's meal right now. Yeah, Like I booked an offset 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.160 at my club for super Bowl weekend and I went 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:31.000 to the Airbnb to drop off his money and like 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:32.799 he's playing me his album and shit, she just came 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.840 out of the bedroom. She was. She's just like the 0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.840 nicest girl. Yeah, I mean super like super personable, you 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:41.080 know what I mean she has. Yeah, her personality is infectious. 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.319 Like we saw that personality you don't love and hip 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.040 hop until obviously we both fail. It should matters too, 0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:49.319 because you thinking about Fat Joe. If tomorrow it came 0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.959 out that Fat Joe was hosting Good Morning America, we'd 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.000 be like that's crazy, but we'd also be like, I 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:56.759 see it. Yeah, yeah, he's great, he can do it all. Yeah, 0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.160 and we know him personally, so we just we actually 0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:00.839 just had a two hour with de Bait with him 0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:05.160 at in Utah the All Star. We ran into him 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:08.040 in fab It was random at this restaurant and We 0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:13.680 had a two hour debate with Joe about music, and yeah, 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.440 he's a very he's a very he's a very opinion. 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.480 What was what was his wife? Because I've forgotten into 0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:20.719 arguments with fat Joe about wrapped what what was the 0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:24.520 opinion he was he was standing on. I don't want 0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:28.400 to say too much. You know, you know what Joe is. 0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.759 He has a great memory. But some things fifty list 0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:34.800 with that, and then he wasn't about that. Was he 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:37.360 on the top fifty? He was not in the list. 0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:39.879 That's agreed. He wasn't arguing about himself, which he said 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.759 he should have been on it. But some of the 0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:45.480 people on the list I will make I will let 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.000 them remain nameless. But he was confused about some of 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:49.680 the people on the list. I was confused by some 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.000 of the people I was confused about. I'm confused by 0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:53.759 a lot of the people on the list. And he 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.440 never was saying like I should be on it. He 0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:57.440 was just confused by some people were on it. He 0:50:57.960 --> 0:50:59.759 should have been on it, but he definitely should be 0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.799 on it. And obviously what we just said, and we 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.960 had a spirited debate about the longevity of people's careers 0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:10.239 and what makes the legendary and so like again like 0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:11.800 he's one of those guys and you just had thirty 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:13.880 years Like some of these people that have made the 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:16.400 list maybe had two songs and we can't remember a 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:20.400 memorable verse or song. And so it's interesting. Man, the 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.239 people that make these lists, we don't know who they are. 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.879 My question stone exactly, and it was billboard and put 0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:29.640 together and that's what it was. Yeah, we don't know 0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:31.399 who did it. But my thing was like, yo, let's 0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:34.279 why don't we create something. Well, we have people who 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:38.920 we agree are valid enough and qualified enough to make 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:41.319 an opinion on this. Let's like get ten people in 0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:43.239 a room and make a list that makes sense. I 0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:47.120 saw it, what I saw. What I saw. Rick Ross 0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.919 was number fifty. That's why the list. It's funny because 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:53.360 I did a list. Remember a few years ago, somebody 0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.600 put out their list of favorite like top rappers and 0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:57.799 went viral. I forget who did it. So I did 0:51:57.800 --> 0:51:59.560 my own list and I had Rick Ross of ten, 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.319 which people were like, you're fucking crazy, he's at least 0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:07.319 top twenty. I'm my gosh, he's got a classic. He's 0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:09.040 got a classic. Which one are you saying this classic. 0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:11.200 I think Teflon Donn is the one everyone should agree on. 0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:17.360 But I think deeper than rape, like deeper than one 0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:20.000 to me, and it's a classic. To me, it's a classic. 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:23.000 I always tell everybody like there's like classics to us, 0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.640 and then there's like consensus classics change the game though, 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.239 that's when he want to get fifty and that's when 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.160 he became a mainstream superstar artist. But I think there's 0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:36.080 like two classifications of classics. I think there's like the 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.839 consensus classics that like nobody wants to disagree with cult, 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:42.359 the cult class doggy style, Get Richard Died, Trying, Good Kid, 0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.120 Mad City, Like there's no like if anybody who knows 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.520 hip hop can't say ship if you say my Beautiful 0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:50.160 dartwss if fans in classic, right, But then I think 0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.839 there's like there's there are other kind of like That's 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:55.920 why I always say Drake has classic albums? To me? 0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:58.960 Which one I like Take Care? And I like Nothing 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:03.760 was the same. Yeah, I think Drake's I think Drake's 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:05.520 best album. I don't even know if it is an album. 0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:08.879 If you're reading this, it is too late, Yes, like 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:11.799 nothing as the best. Nothing was the same as money 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.680 if if you're reading this, it's too late. Every song 0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:20.279 one there, like it's just tainted to me because I 0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:23.839 heard the Quentin Miller references. I'm not even I'm rocking 0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:25.400 with that. I'm just doesn't in the back end of 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:28.239 that album through the six kind of wo like that 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.520 was that was the one, nothing that the one to me. 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.160 But but I always say that Drake is an artist 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:38.160 who is yet to have a consensus classic. He doesn't 0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:40.800 have a classic like and that he doesn't have Illmatic, 0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.000 he doesn't have an Ilmatic, he doesn't have an a Quemini. 0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:45.680 He doesn't have one of those. Now there's an argument 0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:47.399 to be made to take care could be one of those, 0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:50.480 but it's still an argument. There's an argument. That's where 0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:53.719 I'm at with like, motherfuckers will swear that bro I 0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:57.080 was just Freddie Gibbs with this guy. I argued with 0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.040 Drake for about an hour and a half about this 0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:01.279 in person for time I met him, because I'm pretty 0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.000 harsh on Drake, but not like as a dick, because 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.480 I'm a fan. This motherfucker was like, oh, I know 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:11.160 exactly who you are, and I was like, hey man, 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.840 because I'm with my guys. I gotta keep the same energy. 0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:17.640 I was like, you know, I just went viral recently 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:19.400 because I said you didn't have a classic albabal So 0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.080 and He's like, well, you know, someone like you would 0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:26.440 never understand. So we were arguing first. It was at 0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:29.360 least an hour. We're sitting at the bar at Harriet's 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.120 and Westie and I'm just explaining to him why I 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:33.000 don't like, I'm like, no, you have a classic. I 0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:35.160 think nothing was the same as a classic. Why do 0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:37.279 you say somebody like you wouldn't understand because I'm not 0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:40.200 from Toronto. So he's like pretty much looking at me 0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:44.440 like I'm some fucking old head, fucking back dude, And 0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:47.120 I'm like, no, I love your ship, but you gotta 0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:49.720 be a little more vulnerable, Like I don't know Drake's 0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:53.560 like stance on social issues, like you know what I mean. 0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.680 I wonder what he thinks his classics are. Drake doesn't 0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.680 From that conversation, Drake, did you get a sense of 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:02.319 like what it went? From that? And then we ended 0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:04.600 up and here was me fifty thousand dollars because we 0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:07.239 bet we had an art. Then well we went into it. 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:12.919 We went into this this huge basketball argument. It was great, 0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:15.200 It was great. It was like we walked away that 0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:16.759 night and it was one of those night roiss like, Yo, 0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:20.440 tonight really happened. Like I argue with Drake for almost 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.880 two hours at a bar with Freddie Gibbs about wrapping 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:27.280 NBA and he bet me that year that my Phoenix 0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:29.840 Suns would not go further than the Warriors. And that 0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:31.319 was the year we went to the finals and lost 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:33.920 to the Bucks fifty grand Oh, that's not that long 0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:38.520 did you have for I haven't seen him. Oh, I 0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.759 definitely hit him on the did he read it? Of 0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:45.080 course not if you're reading this. We left. But I 0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.520 also think that albums aren't looked at the same like 0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:50.520 when we was growing up. Albums meant to lie right 0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:55.000 your album cover, that everything the inside of the writing, 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:58.200 like people used to tell stories. I think good kid 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.799 Man City. I would say Victory Left too. That's like 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:05.040 the last album where it really like because if you 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:07.840 listen to Victory, Lap and Game actually did this on 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:10.319 the album too, but the songs bleed into each other, 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:13.040 so the beats actually end up so like when you 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:15.560 hear like real big, real big, and then it's like 0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:18.959 the other song, well the song after that with se 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:24.000 Long the basis, they bleed into each other. So it's 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.720 like you who did a really good driver that recently? 0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.840 Just like note metro Booman's album, it's I hears, it's crazy, 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:34.240 it's incredible. I think the forties master that that that 0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:36.839 just the transition from songs and even inside the same 0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.120 song into what I'm saying, I think I think the 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.759 last classic of this time, like for this era, I 0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.240 think My Turn. I think Little Babies is the last 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:48.359 classic album. I think time will tell. Yeah, but that's era. 0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:51.359 But I feel like Little Babies Essentials is the best 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:56.880 Essentials on Apple Music. But that's a different conversation. Randomly, 0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.439 let me just throw this out. But what I'm saying 0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:03.080 is that now it's become more about singles, and it's 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:06.799 not really about a body of work. It's about even 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:12.440 if you have fifteen songs, it's like, let's make fifteen records. 0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:15.480 They don't really have. They're not cohesive, like Good Kid, 0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:18.320 Mad City is telling the story right, It's not about 0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:21.640 making a cohesive body of work. It's just about making 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:26.080 songs that sound good. Some people we can't not Kendrick 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:27.840 then because that's what he just did. I just said, Kendrick, 0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:29.920 he's the last one. But I'm not. You said good 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.280 Kid City. But classic, I don't think that album that 0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:34.280 he put out, I don't think it's being known as 0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:36.360 a classic. Butterfly. I mean, I think that's a classic 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:40.000 to me, me too, but it's a very cult class 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.320 all the Rising album. I love that album, me too 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:46.160 and an Aged So Good Love. I think Drakes have 0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:48.480 to just sit down and just say, Okay, this is 0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:51.439 a legacy player. Think but I think so Drake. Drake 0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:53.840 has the ability to a legacy play where he just 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:55.919 sits down and says, you know what, I'm just going 0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.920 to just make an album that he just said that 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:00.680 he said he might be giving it up. I mean, 0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:04.280 he just did a fucking em album, so he could 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:05.560 do whatever he wants to say. But he could he 0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:07.720 could make a concept album. He could put his head down, 0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:10.280 get what the alchemist just blaze? But does he want 0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:12.440 to That's why he just did that. I don't know 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.240 if y'all saw the whole Little Yachty interview, but he 0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:17.160 was kind of saying like he's this is the tail 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.840 end of he might just be the passion for it 0:58:19.880 --> 0:58:21.600 is not the same. He's a race commented himself as 0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:24.120 as the greatest of all time. Right, so it's like 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:27.320 if you question one, I saw the question mark face 0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:30.400 the greatest successful rapper. Well when you say that's the 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.320 biggest hit maker. So here's the thing about the greatest 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.320 of all time, right, it's like a three headed monster 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.880 like it is. You've heard some reference tracks that kind 0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:41.840 of but it kind of just kind of just made 0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.640 me look at that a little, that conversation a little, 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:46.520 since when when's the last time you heard the reference 0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:52.040 truck the Quentin Miller thing. Say, so, I undertand I understand. 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.800 I've been in studios of rappers. I get it, motherfuckers 0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:57.360 get help with lines. But that was the whole song. 0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:01.160 That's a fact. But listen, go ahead, go ahead, the 0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:04.080 greatest of all time. We didn't know that jay Z 0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:06.320 took ninety nine problems from iced T. I didn't know that. 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:09.720 I didn't know that verse was from Bumbe. I didn't 0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.919 know that. I never heard the song before I knew 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.520 the Biggie reference is because we heard the music. But 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:17.640 a lot of people, if you're from Memphis, Tennessee, you 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.560 might not even knew that, bring them out, bring them out. 0:59:20.600 --> 0:59:22.840 It's hard to yell when the bad rails in your mouth. 0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:25.080 You might not have known that that's actually Biggie Small. 0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:28.520 That's not that I knew it, but like, you know 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:32.120 what I'm saying. So it's like, is that a reference track? No, No, 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:36.600 it's not track I sage. But how you don't know it? 0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:39.040 Like I hadn't know. I just found out two days 0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:41.360 ago that ninety nine Problems was from ic T. I 0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:45.120 just found out a week ago that that verse was 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:49.360 from that, not the verse the strong, not a whole 0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:51.800 having a pussy but the pussy. Have no goddamn sense 0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:54.200 trying to put that's a reference. That's a bar. Did 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:58.160 you know that? I didn't know it. It's a bar 0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:02.800 bar for saying Drake is the goat. I get it. 1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:07.440 His numbers are on the board's but there's only a 1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:11.880 few goats. Yeah, there's only many. How many are there? Drake, Kanye, 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:19.600 jay Z, Nas, Tupac, Biggie Smalls, Kendrick Lamar. I think 1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:21.920 it's too little, Wayne. I can't I can't give I 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:25.680 can't say its early. Yes, okay, so Biggie had two albums. 1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:28.760 Once again, you live long. Wait wait, wait, wait, I'm 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:31.560 not going with it. Big Big Biggie is a goat 1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:33.840 off of two albums. Two albums. You can say three 1:00:33.840 --> 1:00:37.440 because of the double album. Okay, Kendrick, it has to 1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:39.440 be a goat off of his body of work already, 1:00:39.480 --> 1:00:43.400 because there's an argument Kendrick's going, then he has to 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:45.960 be going that. The the argument of it is too 1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:49.520 early in his career. He dropped, he passed away. God, 1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:54.560 I forbid, he passed away. He has classics people ten years. Yes, 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:56.800 it's not like he's not selling out shows every time 1:00:56.800 --> 1:00:58.520 he does, and it's not like he's putting out putting 1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:01.920 out bodies of war quality music. He's going. But I 1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:05.160 also look at it like Kendrick to me is like Eminem. 1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:08.200 Oh no, well, by the way, Eminem's you got to 1:01:08.240 --> 1:01:12.840 give it. But Eminem has never sniffed an album as 1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:15.720 good as Kendrick's best two albums, three albums. I'm just 1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:18.840 saying as far as like cultural influence, right, I listened 1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:21.160 to Good Kid, Mass City, I listened to Butterfly, but 1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:24.240 like I hang around like some younger kids and the 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:27.960 cultural and we spoke about this with different people. Kendrick 1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:31.680 the cultural influence is not there, maybe not in New Year. 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:36.439 I think in L A is no. I don't know. 1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:38.640 I know people from L. I don't disagree with you, 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:41.200 and that's that's no. No, I don't disagree with you 1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:44.760 in terms of like Kendrick might not have the cultural 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:48.560 influence that Future has or Drake has. Future is another one. 1:01:48.560 --> 1:01:53.520 He's he's a goot, He's a goat, futures ago, he's God. Listen, 1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:57.120 my top ten can be legends. He's gold He's just golden, 1:01:58.120 --> 1:02:01.320 just golded bro futures like top five most influential rapper. 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:04.720 I'm just saying, is he he's golding. But I'm just saying, 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:07.760 like like when I say, like you, I think he's 1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:10.280 I think I think he's the greatest club artist of 1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:12.920 all time. I think he has I think he has 1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:15.080 a classic. I think Dirty S Probably Too is a 1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:18.800 classic album. He's got classic. I think that his longevity 1:02:18.840 --> 1:02:21.600 is still he's still going. But I do think that 1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:25.840 like Eminem never, I never in life ever listened to 1:02:25.840 --> 1:02:28.640 Eminem's music. You never listened to the Eminem Show? I did? 1:02:28.680 --> 1:02:31.280 I think that's I never listened to a lot of 1:02:31.400 --> 1:02:35.280 Commons is great Man's and then that mixtape era where 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:37.480 he was on All the Greenland. I think it was 1:02:37.520 --> 1:02:39.680 Conway or somebody said, like, we don't look like there's 1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:42.480 no disrespect. Listen. I've been in the car with Conway 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:45.280 and Denver, Colorado. He was in the car and he 1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:49.400 was playing the most random Eminem album cuts and I 1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:53.120 filmed it because I was like, he went back to 1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:57.080 the Marshall Man like, check out my guy actually listening 1:02:57.080 --> 1:02:59.280 to Eminem, Like listen, I'm just saying, as far as 1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:03.360 I think Jones said this right growing up, growing up, 1:03:03.440 --> 1:03:06.400 like the people that I was around, right, never in 1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:09.200 life ever played Eminem's music. So I think that like 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:18.440 influence culturally is because Eminem definitely undeniably had cultural influence, 1:03:19.120 --> 1:03:22.680 maybe not in what he didn't have. He didn't have 1:03:22.720 --> 1:03:26.880 no influence, no, no, no no culture. No no, I'm not 1:03:26.920 --> 1:03:30.280 saying he I'm not saying. I mean he influenced pop 1:03:30.360 --> 1:03:34.800 culture and American pop culture, American American. He influenced American culture. 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:38.480 He did not like nobody was like dressing like this 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:41.360 guy and the Jordan's sweatsuits. Let me put those on. 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:43.600 Nobody was doing that. But he opened up, He opened 1:03:43.640 --> 1:03:47.400 the door for due audience. He also gave us fifty cents. 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:49.680 He didn't give us. He didn't give us. We had 1:03:50.320 --> 1:03:53.080 New York, we have you had the mixtapes, and he 1:03:53.120 --> 1:03:55.040 played a part. And if he would have had his 1:03:55.080 --> 1:03:58.840 second wave after the Colombia deal, but he played a part. 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:03.840 Major went, but I got the XXL behind you listen, listen. 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:07.640 But Weanster came out fifty cent. Was in a bidding 1:04:07.680 --> 1:04:11.600 war bro like Wanster was already done. They mastered the Rescue, 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:15.280 but Wanster was done by who produced that record. It 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:18.640 wasn't it wasn't it wasn't no, it was what we 1:04:18.800 --> 1:04:21.040 call it. His first person that he was working with 1:04:21.760 --> 1:04:25.680 from New York was shot Money Yo Wangster. By the 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:29.040 Tom Winster came out fifty cent and he was listening. 1:04:29.040 --> 1:04:32.680 He was gonna be whoever listen. The differences is in 1:04:32.720 --> 1:04:39.680 the club. The club is what changed mainstream mainstream. So 1:04:39.720 --> 1:04:42.520 I'm saying fifty would have been like hen It could 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:44.240 have been like dip Set and Cameron. We don't know. 1:04:44.640 --> 1:04:46.440 And I'm not saying dips. I'm not trying to discount 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:49.880 dip Set and love those guys. I'm a huge fucking 1:04:49.880 --> 1:04:52.560 dip Set guy. But I think we can all agree, 1:04:52.560 --> 1:04:56.280 like commercially like he was never like a superstar. No, 1:04:56.400 --> 1:04:59.720 they didn't, but they had more cultural they had then 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:03.240 g Unit they did. They had way more cultural influence. Disagree, 1:05:03.320 --> 1:05:06.240 but I'm saying fifty we don't know what his ceiling 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:09.480 would have been without a doctor j Eminem co signs 1:05:11.080 --> 1:05:14.760 and get Richard I trying. That's got Eminem and Dre's 1:05:14.800 --> 1:05:17.320 fingerprints all over it. But a lot of those records 1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:19.600 already there, but a lot of those wrecks. I mean, 1:05:19.720 --> 1:05:22.000 the biggest records were already there. Twenty one questions already there, 1:05:22.040 --> 1:05:26.040 many men was already there. Langston was already there in 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:30.440 the club, Yes, in the club, wasn't he produced by Dre? 1:05:30.680 --> 1:05:33.840 Patiently waiting. I don't think that's one of his better records. Heat, 1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:37.960 but heats crazy with the with the with the that 1:05:38.160 --> 1:05:40.840 he's the one with the gunshot okay, and the beat. 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:43.920 I mean they played a major part in making him 1:05:43.920 --> 1:05:46.520 a mainstream artist for sure. I just think that like 1:05:46.640 --> 1:05:49.400 Eminem might not like as an artist, he doesn't have 1:05:49.400 --> 1:05:51.840 the cultural influence as a dipsy. But this is exactly so. 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:53.480 This this is an interesting and like I said, no 1:05:53.520 --> 1:05:55.680 disrespect because those guys, every single person that we just 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:59.080 named is allegend. Eminem's alegend. But what I'm saying is 1:05:59.080 --> 1:06:03.200 that mainstream success and cultural influence are two different things. Correct, 1:06:03.360 --> 1:06:07.920 Eminem had tremendous mainstream success, he didn't have any cultural influence. 1:06:08.000 --> 1:06:10.760 There's no disrespect. I've never seen anybody say that they 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:14.720 wanted like Dipset didn't have mainstream success. They had tremendous, 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:19.480 but they had tremendous cultural influence. Their cultural influence way 1:06:19.720 --> 1:06:22.480 out surpassed the amount of records that they sold. I agree, 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:24.080 like you know what I'm saying. So there's certain people 1:06:24.160 --> 1:06:28.440 that have strong cultural influence and are not successful as 1:06:28.480 --> 1:06:30.160 far as selling a bunch of records, and there's some 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:32.520 people that sell a bunch of records and don't have 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:36.520 cultural I just think Eminem's cultural influence is different. So 1:06:36.560 --> 1:06:42.720 then where's Drake Drake? Because what's the cultural in the 1:06:42.800 --> 1:06:46.120 urban community. I'm gonna tell you. Because every club in 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:48.520 America that you go to they play and Drake. Every 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:52.400 radio station they playing Drake. Drake has that sounds like 1:06:55.480 --> 1:06:58.000 so me and my boy Glasses Malone because g Malone 1:06:58.040 --> 1:07:01.320 says this about Drake. Drake, what what's the what's Drake's 1:07:01.320 --> 1:07:03.760 culture that he's bringing to the table. Listen, listen, he's 1:07:03.800 --> 1:07:06.720 bringing Toronto, Canada. Let me let me plain something to you. 1:07:07.000 --> 1:07:11.960 I went to Toronto, Canada fifteen years ago. Before before Drake, 1:07:12.000 --> 1:07:14.080 nobody even knew who Drake was. It used to be 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:17.720 ten dollars to get into a club. They had no 1:07:17.840 --> 1:07:21.040 sense of like how we was doing things as far 1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:22.960 as bottle service and none of that was none of that. 1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:24.480 You go to it, you go up there and just 1:07:24.520 --> 1:07:26.600 because you was an American, you get treated like, oh, 1:07:26.640 --> 1:07:28.800 your royalty. I came back after Drake, everything was changed. 1:07:28.800 --> 1:07:30.440 It was one hundred dollars to tell me the cultural 1:07:30.440 --> 1:07:32.520 influence here that he has because I've never seen somebody 1:07:32.600 --> 1:07:35.240 try to dress like Drake. No, he has no influence 1:07:35.280 --> 1:07:36.520 when it comes to fashion. But what does he have 1:07:36.560 --> 1:07:39.840 an influence on music? He changed? No, no, no no, no, 1:07:40.160 --> 1:07:43.680 I'm saying as far as Drake's influence is his like 1:07:43.680 --> 1:07:46.560 to me asaf Rocky has like cultural influence right that 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:49.080 like we can like on a certain on a certain level. 1:07:49.200 --> 1:07:51.680 That's That's what I'm saying that Drake don't have that. 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:55.320 Because I said that that's the same thing with with Asap. 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:57.440 Is the same thing with a guy like Tyler the 1:07:57.480 --> 1:08:02.520 creator who's had ones culturally and now also and the 1:08:02.600 --> 1:08:05.600 rush's coming around, and now he's had the mainstream success 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:09.240 where it's like the cut his whole crew. Here's what 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:12.800 I'm saying. Right, you could go to the Highlight Row 1:08:13.160 --> 1:08:16.000 and you're gonna hear Drake. You could go to Dykeman 1:08:16.160 --> 1:08:19.280 basketball tournament in New York. You're gonna hear Drake. You're 1:08:19.280 --> 1:08:24.800 not gonna hear Eminem and Dykeman You're not. But but 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:31.120 you're gonna hear You're gonna hear T Pain and everywhere 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:34.200 T Pains. He has influenced, he had, he had influence 1:08:34.240 --> 1:08:37.240 on music mainstream. How about this? How about this? How 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:39.840 about this? You could go to like thirty different types 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:42.439 of places in America. Right now, I'm not saying Dykeman, 1:08:42.560 --> 1:08:46.439 I'm not saying the Bronx. I'm saying, depending on where 1:08:46.479 --> 1:08:49.800 you go in let's say twenty twelve, you might hear 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:54.120 Flow Rider in like twelve spots. Right, that's gonna happen. 1:08:54.520 --> 1:08:58.840 But influence is not just all right, we gotta we 1:08:58.880 --> 1:09:01.840 gotta break down with this influen. It's really me. Part 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:04.880 of influence is fashion, Like, so you got to people 1:09:04.960 --> 1:09:09.479 rap like Drake, yes, or does he Drake sounded like 1:09:09.560 --> 1:09:12.880 Drake he implemented. He influenced a lot of you. But 1:09:12.920 --> 1:09:16.360 do you think the same time is kind of He's 1:09:16.439 --> 1:09:20.240 really good at sampling culture. Absolutely, Like one album movie 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:22.680 like I like the British Ship, Let me in and 1:09:22.760 --> 1:09:24.679 put gigs on my ship, and then the other album, 1:09:25.520 --> 1:09:27.280 I'm going to do a house album. We gotta give 1:09:27.360 --> 1:09:29.320 him credit for that because I love the fact that 1:09:29.320 --> 1:09:32.559 he's he's he's turning up those but he has and 1:09:32.560 --> 1:09:34.200 he's bringing new eyes to that. It's the same thing, 1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:36.400 like he has the air for it. He's bringing. It's like, Yo, 1:09:36.479 --> 1:09:39.120 I like that sound. Let me incorporate that sound number 1:09:39.120 --> 1:09:40.960 one because I like it. But number two, let me 1:09:41.040 --> 1:09:42.799 highlight the people that are doing it, and it brings 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:44.880 more attention to that sound. It's like, and I had 1:09:44.880 --> 1:09:46.560 this conversation before it was like, yo, did we know 1:09:46.600 --> 1:09:48.320 who whiz Kid was before he did a song with him? 1:09:48.920 --> 1:09:51.960 I don't disagree. I think Drake and now like you 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:53.840 look at Whiskey and it's like, Yo, this guy is 1:09:54.080 --> 1:09:57.600 just the biggest artists. Let's get back to this influence conversation. 1:09:58.000 --> 1:10:01.120 There's different types of influence. So you got influence of fashion. 1:10:01.760 --> 1:10:04.040 So Kanye West is probably the biggest influence when it 1:10:04.040 --> 1:10:07.720 comes to fashion. He's influenced culture when it comes to music. No, 1:10:07.760 --> 1:10:13.000 I'm just saying just fashion. Dipset influenced fashion, right, So 1:10:13.040 --> 1:10:16.439 there's different people that have played major parts of influence. 1:10:16.560 --> 1:10:20.679 Jay Z at one point influenced fashion. NAS influenced fashion 1:10:20.720 --> 1:10:27.200 early yeah, asat Rocky influenced fashion to a certain What 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:30.360 was NAS's influence on fashion that Ray Kwan wasn't already? 1:10:30.520 --> 1:10:34.120 They were both. They were came out and with the 1:10:34.160 --> 1:10:38.120 aver Rex. You guys were there the aver Rex. Are 1:10:38.160 --> 1:10:40.479 we giving? Are we giving Nas the Averax leather jacket credit? 1:10:40.880 --> 1:10:44.280 It's not, It's not. That's what I think. The Streets 1:10:45.080 --> 1:10:48.479 was the flyest rapper. So when he came with the 1:10:48.479 --> 1:10:52.320 fade in the part that's hip hop culture, the Army Jackets, 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:54.400 sneaker Uzi on the Island and my army jacket line. 1:10:55.000 --> 1:10:57.800 Army Jackets were a New York staple for a very 1:10:57.800 --> 1:11:00.720 long period of time. He helped pioneer that. Then he 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:02.720 then he got flying with it. Was written when he 1:11:02.760 --> 1:11:05.880 started wearing the leather coats and the ava rexes and 1:11:05.920 --> 1:11:08.599 all of that, Like those were those fashion billboards when 1:11:08.600 --> 1:11:11.120 we was watching videos like Yo, I got it, but 1:11:11.120 --> 1:11:12.680 they all got fled around the same tongue, right, So 1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:14.960 then then you see and then you see Big with 1:11:14.960 --> 1:11:17.760 as and then you see Nas and that's that same, 1:11:17.840 --> 1:11:20.559 right they all start and nos were more similar as 1:11:20.560 --> 1:11:23.640 part that that dressers. No, Big was more. He was 1:11:23.680 --> 1:11:27.320 more flamboyant, and he was more like you had to 1:11:27.320 --> 1:11:29.360 have a bag to dress like you you can funk 1:11:29.400 --> 1:11:37.719 around shirts and played that parties. But so Drake's influences music. 1:11:37.760 --> 1:11:40.439 But let's so then then then you got gang culture. 1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:47.240 That's influential. Dip set another. They influenced gang culture tremendously 1:11:47.240 --> 1:11:49.280 in New York. There was no gangs in New York. 1:11:49.320 --> 1:11:51.640 Now gang culture is embedded in New York culture. And 1:11:51.680 --> 1:11:53.400 they played a major part. Not to say that that's 1:11:53.400 --> 1:12:00.000 something that's positive, but it's influenced from Snoop Dogg, Nipsey, 1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:03.040 because all of these guys influenced gang culture and they 1:12:03.320 --> 1:12:06.559 on the masses from even Chief Keith in Chicago, right 1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:09.599 for all of that that's gang culture. Then you got 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:13.200 influence as far as actual music, right. So this is 1:12:13.240 --> 1:12:17.000 why I say Drake. Drake doesn't have any street influence, 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:20.479 he doesn't have any fashion influence, but his musical influence 1:12:20.520 --> 1:12:22.960 is undeniable. I even look at a little baby. I 1:12:23.000 --> 1:12:25.800 don't think anybody wants to dress like little baby. He 1:12:25.840 --> 1:12:28.519 doesn't have any influence when it comes to fashion. His 1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:31.679 influenced when it comes to music is like you're playing 1:12:31.880 --> 1:12:34.240 like anywhere I go in America. It could be Wisconsin, 1:12:34.360 --> 1:12:37.479 it could be Brooklyn, it could be South Central. I'm 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:40.320 gonna hear his music being played. I'm not here Kendrick 1:12:40.400 --> 1:12:47.040 Lamar's music. I'm not hearing Kendrick Lamar's music. No, because 1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:52.120 Eminem was not influential in black neighborhoods. I didn't Nobody 1:12:52.120 --> 1:12:54.280 wanted to dress like Eminem. Nobody would listening to Eminem. 1:12:54.520 --> 1:12:59.720 Eminem is the worst dresser of it was. They was 1:12:59.720 --> 1:13:02.439 listening to him in the middle of America. But Eminem 1:13:02.439 --> 1:13:04.200 influenced a lot of white kids to be like, Oh, 1:13:04.240 --> 1:13:06.080 it's okay for me to wear it. Do rat. I 1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:08.800 wasn't one of them. Held I knew he Apployd. He 1:13:08.840 --> 1:13:12.800 influenced pop culture. He influenced American culture. He influenced metal, 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:15.920 that is culture. That's always my thing. But hip hop 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:19.200 culture is driven by black people. I agree, he didn't 1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:23.800 drive that's what that influenced, never influenced Black culture. Is 1:13:23.840 --> 1:13:27.240 not a goat. He is a goat, but he's he's not. 1:13:28.200 --> 1:13:34.479 He is guarded as somebody who was tremendously influent, influential, right, 1:13:34.560 --> 1:13:36.920 because I never listened to him. So the thing is 1:13:36.960 --> 1:13:38.759 like fifty would argue that, right, Like he would definitely 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:42.840 say there's an augumentary relation. Obviously. Also, even even if 1:13:42.840 --> 1:13:45.760 you give ten percent of the fifty credit, like, hey, 1:13:45.800 --> 1:13:47.680 you get ten percent of white, fifty is fifty for 1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:50.160 those that's all. That's like Jimmy I been right, I 1:13:50.160 --> 1:13:54.040 mean yeah, but it's Leor. That's like saying Leo Cohen 1:13:54.120 --> 1:13:56.320 is different. I think it's just different because we're talking 1:13:56.320 --> 1:13:58.920 about Eminem's the biggest rapper in the hip hop culture 1:13:58.920 --> 1:14:01.960 is American culture, right, that's it, right, hip hop culture 1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:05.840 is American culture and influenced American culture. Right. He might 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:07.920 have brought more eyes to it when I go to concerts. 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:09.800 When I look, it doesn't look like me when I 1:14:09.800 --> 1:14:11.880 go to concerts, right, he might have brought attention to it. 1:14:12.040 --> 1:14:13.720 Now fans are saying, like, yo, I listened to that. 1:14:13.760 --> 1:14:15.719 I listened to this person. You gotta give him credit 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:18.760 for that. Now as far as like people bumping and ship, nah, 1:14:18.920 --> 1:14:21.120 I didn't. I listened. I listened to the eminem So 1:14:21.200 --> 1:14:22.920 I thought it was a great album. But it's probably 1:14:22.920 --> 1:14:24.720 like the last time I listened to like front to 1:14:24.760 --> 1:14:26.599 back from him. But I know he has great songs. 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:28.840 I know he's great. Great business decision by the way, 1:14:29.040 --> 1:14:30.880 but I mean he makes he made. I mean the 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:33.840 Rihanna joints on. I think that was recovery. Yeah, yeah, 1:14:33.880 --> 1:14:36.960 he had recovery those pretty way. Yeah, those good songs. Right, 1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:39.519 So I can't discount him and say like he had 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:41.800 no influence. His last album wasn't bad music could be 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:44.719 murdered Bible. Actually is that when he did the rapping 1:14:44.760 --> 1:14:47.360 at the fastest, that was the one he had like 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:51.519 Juice World on. Is that he's terrible? He was he 1:14:51.640 --> 1:14:54.320 rapping like he had Yeah the rap rap God was 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:58.000 That wasn't rap God was Marshall Matters LP two. I 1:14:58.040 --> 1:15:00.679 believe like that takes talent to do. But it's also 1:15:00.720 --> 1:15:03.479 like nobody wants to nobody's nobody's gonna recite that. It 1:15:03.520 --> 1:15:04.680 was just like, oh, that was a good piece of 1:15:04.760 --> 1:15:07.240 art that you did, right, Yeah, I don't know, man, 1:15:07.360 --> 1:15:09.880 I think I think, uh, you know, there's a go 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:11.439 I mean, I got push a t in my top 1:15:11.560 --> 1:15:14.080 like eight, so he's in top eight, but my personal 1:15:14.120 --> 1:15:18.559 list not in like the all time uh ship, I 1:15:18.600 --> 1:15:20.640 got set Will, which is a great I think that 1:15:20.720 --> 1:15:24.120 might be a classic. Yeah, I would say it's nas 1:15:24.840 --> 1:15:30.120 yay nas yay. Ho Hove to me is like the 1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:33.439 undisputed greatest of all time that like if like I 1:15:33.479 --> 1:15:35.120 just think, like, if I'm going to put the real 1:15:35.160 --> 1:15:36.800 list together, he's I think the only one that can 1:15:36.880 --> 1:15:40.080 challenge Hohove is Drake and Kanye. The only thing with 1:15:40.160 --> 1:15:43.040 Kanye is like Kanye to me, when I put like 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:45.720 the mc glasses on, it's a little fuzzy because I 1:15:45.720 --> 1:15:50.880 think he gets a lot of that was, yeah, a 1:15:50.880 --> 1:15:53.920 whole lot. But to me, I think Kanye is the 1:15:53.920 --> 1:15:56.080 greatest artist of all time. Personally, I think he's got 1:15:56.080 --> 1:15:59.040 the best discography. I think if I'm like if I 1:15:59.080 --> 1:16:01.400 had to go on an island with one guy's out 1:16:01.400 --> 1:16:04.519 of your work it But yeah, but yeah, I would 1:16:04.560 --> 1:16:14.920 go nas Hove Yay, Andre Kendrick ghost Face. It's my 1:16:15.000 --> 1:16:17.559 personal list off the top of my head. By the way, 1:16:17.600 --> 1:16:21.000 push a T's up there. Rick Ross is around ten. 1:16:21.600 --> 1:16:24.400 Common for Me's up there. I love Common. I just 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:30.160 think he had like you said, Drake did, not my 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:33.559 personal No. I got Freddy Gibbs like real high on 1:16:33.600 --> 1:16:38.280 my personal ship. I think, I mean Freddy ever just 1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:41.000 for my personal like I think like for me, like 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:44.120 I think Alfredo, he's got to me to me three 1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:49.639 classic albums like Pata that's just me though I've never 1:16:49.680 --> 1:16:52.280 listened to You got to listen to Alfredo fully pretty, 1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:54.479 you know. So you know what's so crazy about this 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:57.200 Freddy gae situation. You know the only Freddy Gibbs song 1:16:57.240 --> 1:17:00.160 I've ever heard in my life, the song Yeah with 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:03.000 Bennie the Butcher. Oh well, it's actually a very good song, 1:17:03.120 --> 1:17:06.200 great song. It will never happen again. Probably won't perform there, 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:09.559 probably not. Well, Bennie still performs because it's his biggest sommer. 1:17:10.160 --> 1:17:14.840 It's his biggest song, Yeah is it? Cole now? That 1:17:14.920 --> 1:17:19.200 probably is now? I think one Way Flight is now 1:17:19.240 --> 1:17:21.200 it's got to be a second biggest song. He still performs. 1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:23.400 It sucks. I'm type with both of them. It's a 1:17:23.400 --> 1:17:24.840 hell of a wreck. And we see Benny all the time. 1:17:24.880 --> 1:17:27.519 Bennie's my god, No, I love his that's a classic. 1:17:28.040 --> 1:17:31.519 That's a classic. That's that albums Alfredo and he doesn't 1:17:31.560 --> 1:17:33.960 have a Benny doesn't have an album. He's got a 1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:37.599 mixed your termber boy, who did I say? He said 1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:41.920 Alchemist Hippo. Yeah, listen, Toreddy gives Alfredo that's the name 1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:46.639 of it. Yeah, I mean, that's the one he got 1:17:46.680 --> 1:17:49.479 nominated for Grammy for great, great body of work. Yeah, 1:17:49.479 --> 1:17:50.920 I mean, I think. But then if I can putting 1:17:50.920 --> 1:17:53.040 together the list is different because I'm like, it's jay 1:17:53.120 --> 1:17:56.280 Z Drake is in there. I got a little Wayne 1:17:56.280 --> 1:17:58.559 real Low on my ship though I never listened like Low. 1:17:58.640 --> 1:18:00.439 As far as we like. In the top five, I 1:18:00.439 --> 1:18:04.240 think Lil Wayne and I love this my god. This 1:18:04.280 --> 1:18:06.040 is I'm just letting you know. This is my guy. No, 1:18:06.200 --> 1:18:11.240 this is my guy. Seventh the Carter two, I actually 1:18:11.240 --> 1:18:13.080 think my personal favorite. I like the first Carter the 1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:16.800 most for me. Hey, we got to stop the interview 1:18:16.840 --> 1:18:19.080 to tell you about our good folks at Blue Chew. Baby. 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:20.680 That's right, A lot of people keep asking me, does 1:18:20.720 --> 1:18:23.080 blue Choo work? Fuck? 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Okay? The last time he 1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:14.479 put out anything that was great was the first note. Listen, 1:22:14.520 --> 1:22:18.040 wait wait wait. The last time Lil Wayne puts some 1:22:18.040 --> 1:22:20.480 ship out that I was like, Yeah, Wayne's that motherfucker 1:22:20.560 --> 1:22:23.919 was no ceilings. And that was in nine the Cardiff 1:22:24.520 --> 1:22:27.400 fucking trash good records on the car. There's like two 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:30.080 good songs and good records, The and the and and 1:22:30.120 --> 1:22:32.680 guess what. The best rapping on that album was on 1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:39.679 the interludes when it was six okay, but also okay, okay, okay, fine, 1:22:39.760 --> 1:22:42.600 great record, but that being said, Carter Ford can go 1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:45.800 right in the fucking recycle Ben Okay, Now we're not 1:22:45.800 --> 1:22:50.559 gonna do its. Great records, Carter five, I'll give you're 1:22:50.640 --> 1:22:53.479 forgetting I Am Not a Human Being and the bullshit 1:22:53.680 --> 1:22:56.000 rock album No, No, No No, because we still got 1:22:56.040 --> 1:23:00.120 great records on No you got Drop the World with 1:23:00.160 --> 1:23:02.280 Eminem Dropped the World is not I don't think that's 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:04.519 a great record, but you got No right above it's 1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:07.240 on that with Drake. That's a great record. It's right 1:23:07.280 --> 1:23:10.400 above it. I like that song. There's a great intro 1:23:10.520 --> 1:23:12.960 to that HBO show that the rock Star. That's a fact. 1:23:13.000 --> 1:23:15.800 That licensing and the licensed that too. Listen, that has 1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:18.200 great records. You've got not only because we're not gonna 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:19.800 we're not gonna do this wing right, We're not waiting 1:23:20.080 --> 1:23:22.599 this is and we're not gonna act like five hundred 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:24.760 degrees was good? Are we No, we're not counting that. 1:23:24.840 --> 1:23:26.280 So all I'm gonna be with you? Are we gonna 1:23:26.280 --> 1:23:28.080 go because I like the block is hot, the block 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:31.760 is great. The Carter one is lights out. Carter two, 1:23:31.840 --> 1:23:33.120 like I said, is in my top five. I think 1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:36.120 old time. Carter three is Are you starting Oda Wyne's 1:23:36.120 --> 1:23:38.160 career at the first Carter No, I'm signing with the 1:23:38.200 --> 1:23:40.160 block is hot because that's one of the block of 1:23:40.240 --> 1:23:44.080 hot was great, lights out was whatever degree it was terrible. 1:23:44.160 --> 1:23:46.760 There was a phase. Okay, Carter one was great, changed it. 1:23:47.240 --> 1:23:51.439 Carter two we already no cemented. Carter three classic and 1:23:51.760 --> 1:23:56.160 animost commercially successful. Do you find it interesting? By the way, 1:23:56.160 --> 1:23:58.559 the new song he dropped the DMX sample the swizz 1:23:58.560 --> 1:24:01.599 Bee is fire it? But what about the just deal 1:24:01.600 --> 1:24:05.360 with a couple of five three to two one? That's 1:24:05.360 --> 1:24:08.599 a great song. Sometimes a great record still put out good. 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:11.760 The verse he did with Nikki and Drake, he killed that. 1:24:12.800 --> 1:24:14.920 He's still putting out good. Let me let me versus 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:17.479 and good records he hasn't probably put out when we 1:24:17.520 --> 1:24:19.680 look at his like, let me say, let me say 1:24:19.680 --> 1:24:21.759 something about this because he's been here since he was sixteen. 1:24:21.800 --> 1:24:23.720 You bring up a good point. He's forty one and 1:24:23.760 --> 1:24:25.519 now you can critique hm. You bring up a good point. 1:24:25.520 --> 1:24:28.000 But everybody. This is why we got to appreciate pac 1:24:28.160 --> 1:24:30.519 even though he's not the best lyricists. And it's like 1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:33.000 for me, everybody's different from me as a rapper. Pak 1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:37.599 is but but influentially but let me let lyricists. But 1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:40.840 I think Park's probably top two most influential, probably number one. 1:24:41.000 --> 1:24:44.080 But the thing is to him, they the thing about 1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:48.200 it is this for me personally, right, And this is 1:24:48.200 --> 1:24:53.640 what I put Eminem, Lil Wayne and a variety of 1:24:53.680 --> 1:24:58.200 other artists in the same category where they're very talented 1:24:58.479 --> 1:25:04.960 and they're extreme. But let's say this though. For me, right, music, 1:25:05.000 --> 1:25:06.560 growing up, music used to help me get through my 1:25:06.640 --> 1:25:09.439 day and it was education. So like some of the 1:25:09.680 --> 1:25:12.800 my favorite rappers are like a Z and like these 1:25:12.800 --> 1:25:14.799 are things like and I listen to what he's saying, 1:25:15.439 --> 1:25:17.960 and the ship that he's talking about is real ship. 1:25:18.080 --> 1:25:22.439 Like it's actually education, Like I'm learning things, I'm hearing things. 1:25:22.479 --> 1:25:24.680 I'm like, I don't know what that word means. He's 1:25:24.760 --> 1:25:32.360 rapping about real ship. So when I hear rappers like googlet, no, 1:25:32.439 --> 1:25:34.519 little Baby's rapping about real ship. That's what I'm trying 1:25:34.520 --> 1:25:37.160 to tell you. Little Baby is nostalgic from the nineties 1:25:37.240 --> 1:25:39.680 perspective when he when he's saying, like the ship that 1:25:39.720 --> 1:25:43.000 he's talking about, he's actually rapping, like he's think Little 1:25:43.000 --> 1:25:45.479 Baby is the most improved rapper we've ever seen in 1:25:45.560 --> 1:25:49.000 real time he's saying, he's saying, like little Baby is 1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:51.960 really rapping real lyrics that's coming out of his mouth. 1:25:52.160 --> 1:25:55.240 My my thing with Lil Wayne has always been what 1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:57.920 are you rapping about? I got six bathrooms like a 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:00.200 ship all day? Like you always use that line. I'm 1:26:00.240 --> 1:26:02.840 just saying you like, that's the only line. I'm just saying, 1:26:03.040 --> 1:26:05.880 like you rapping about things? You guys who have is 1:26:06.439 --> 1:26:09.000 that's why? Like, that's why, like Ti I, because when 1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:11.200 Ti I was rapping, it was real ship. Like I 1:26:11.200 --> 1:26:14.000 can understand the words that he's saying. It makes sense 1:26:14.040 --> 1:26:17.599 to me. He's telling the story. I'm getting it, you know. Also, 1:26:18.000 --> 1:26:21.519 rapping about ship is Drake, No, Drake's rapping about ship, bro, 1:26:21.640 --> 1:26:24.840 What is he rapping about beside ledges? That's that's it. 1:26:24.880 --> 1:26:26.559 That's it. That's it. That's it. But it's but it's 1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:28.639 still it's still it's still at least he's rapping about 1:26:28.680 --> 1:26:31.760 something like Eminem and Wayne something is my dog. They 1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:34.680 just they wrapped, they wrapped forty eight bar saying you 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:38.320 can find they haven't wrapped anything Lil Wayne has. True, 1:26:38.360 --> 1:26:41.120 Lil Wayne has such an insane amount of music out 1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:43.240 that it'd be unfair to us to say he doesn't 1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:45.360 rap back. That's what I'm saying. If you go saying 1:26:45.400 --> 1:26:47.559 as far as you go back to the car to four, 1:26:47.640 --> 1:26:50.960 right is not a lyricist like haba love is on 1:26:51.000 --> 1:26:53.320 that on that the album, right is he not talking 1:26:53.360 --> 1:26:57.479 about like a real situation, that's realize ship. You could 1:26:57.520 --> 1:26:59.560 you could take that one line. I could take I 1:26:59.600 --> 1:27:02.040 could listen and not to say doctor k Boot wasn't. 1:27:02.040 --> 1:27:05.840 Probably the best song is hard. That's just hard talk 1:27:05.920 --> 1:27:09.679 about given instructions. That's a bad reference. That's a bad 1:27:09.680 --> 1:27:13.000 referenced referenceample, it's a bad reference. You can find a 1:27:13.040 --> 1:27:15.120 bar that's like, why do you say that? Listen? I 1:27:15.200 --> 1:27:17.559 look listen. I have to say I love Lil Wayne. 1:27:17.720 --> 1:27:19.960 I'm a fan of like a lot of Little Wayne music, 1:27:20.040 --> 1:27:23.920 like most like I feel like dying is my ship. 1:27:24.640 --> 1:27:27.200 But that's some. That's some. That's a mixtape. Ship mixtape Wayne. 1:27:27.360 --> 1:27:32.120 It's incredible. But I just had albums but I just think, 1:27:32.200 --> 1:27:34.680 like when I think of Wayne and the way he's regarded, 1:27:35.240 --> 1:27:40.800 I just don't know if the quality overall lines up 1:27:40.840 --> 1:27:46.439 with someone like Hendrick lamar Or and it goes back 1:27:46.479 --> 1:27:50.600 what you're wrapping about, what you're rapping about, even like 1:27:50.600 --> 1:27:53.759 like I think of like d m X, who maybe 1:27:53.880 --> 1:27:56.720 wasn't like I kind of look at X in the 1:27:56.760 --> 1:27:58.160 same way that I look at Park. It was more 1:27:58.200 --> 1:28:00.559 about the delivery, the content, how it may you feel, 1:28:00.600 --> 1:28:03.080 you know what I'm saying, Like DMX and Tupac are 1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:05.000 two of the greatest of all time. Even know I 1:28:05.080 --> 1:28:08.200 said what I said about Black, But I just like 1:28:08.360 --> 1:28:10.720 when I think of little Wayne, I don't know a 1:28:10.960 --> 1:28:14.439 time when litl Wayne has ever made me feel like ship. 1:28:14.680 --> 1:28:16.519 I think of a time Jay Z's made me feel 1:28:16.560 --> 1:28:18.800 that way. I think of a time Jake Coles made 1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:20.519 me feel that And I don't you know, Jake Cole's 1:28:20.560 --> 1:28:24.040 another one. Jake Cole's up there. He's up there. He's 1:28:24.160 --> 1:28:27.120 another one who doesn't have a consensus classic. Even though 1:28:27.160 --> 1:28:28.920 Forest Hills Drive is a classic to me and a 1:28:28.920 --> 1:28:31.760 lot of people that he's wrapping about. I agree he's 1:28:31.880 --> 1:28:33.679 up there. Like the fact he did a whole album 1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:36.559 about like fucking people like this whole drug shit going 1:28:36.720 --> 1:28:46.040 in nineteen whatever. I love different. He's legendary. Wortils drives 1:28:46.080 --> 1:28:47.960 in credit like love your best one for sure, we 1:28:48.360 --> 1:28:51.160 give him. He got a lot of records to his records. 1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:55.120 Dope Clods one of the ones for sure. And for 1:28:55.160 --> 1:28:57.160 what it's worth, this is a crazy statement to make, 1:28:58.200 --> 1:29:02.360 but I've seen when Cole was touring whatever album that 1:29:02.520 --> 1:29:06.439 was at the time was twenty sixteen, so it wasn't 1:29:06.439 --> 1:29:09.760 it was the one that had neighbors on it. Your 1:29:09.800 --> 1:29:13.799 Eyes Only, I think, yeah, that's yeah. I hated that album. 1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:15.840 But when he was touring that album at the same time, 1:29:15.920 --> 1:29:19.600 Kendrick was torn Dan I went to I went to 1:29:19.640 --> 1:29:26.680 both both in La and j Cole. I'm telling you man, 1:29:26.760 --> 1:29:28.120 when he came out with the prison suit he was 1:29:28.120 --> 1:29:29.960 in the middle of I think Dave was fucking when 1:29:30.000 --> 1:29:32.519 Cole had I went to both shows. I feel like 1:29:32.520 --> 1:29:35.519 the energy at the Cole La show was like ten 1:29:35.560 --> 1:29:38.120 times crazy. Kendrick show, that's crazy. Were just talking about 1:29:38.120 --> 1:29:41.440 that show. That was a He put on a great performance. 1:29:41.520 --> 1:29:45.120 Everything looked good, you could feel it. The passion was there. 1:29:45.240 --> 1:29:47.360 It was like, yo, he has records that belonged in 1:29:47.439 --> 1:29:51.240 arenas and along the stage. Kendrick has that too, Yeah, 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:55.200 but he's mastered now the stage presence. Like this last tour, 1:29:55.320 --> 1:29:57.800 Kendrick took it to a different level. He took it 1:29:57.800 --> 1:30:00.559 to it was like only only like we only seen 1:30:00.680 --> 1:30:02.439 like Drake does it now because he has the money 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:06.600 to have all the pyro and have all the like, Oh, 1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:09.639 it's crazy. Drake had that like basketball, the Cordy Court 1:30:09.640 --> 1:30:11.160 and all that, Like he has the money now. It 1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:12.880 didn't start that way, but like the first person I 1:30:12.880 --> 1:30:15.559 obviously do that was yet for sure before you even 1:30:15.560 --> 1:30:17.080 had the capital to do it. And that's a crazy thing. 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:19.800 We think about Jay's influence. How is it's live shows? 1:30:19.880 --> 1:30:21.519 He had to When I went to the Glow and 1:30:21.520 --> 1:30:24.439 the Dark tour, I went to Kanye's first tour, Brianna opened, 1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:29.840 I was there. I went to Confession's tour and Drake no, 1:30:30.160 --> 1:30:33.400 so that's his first tour for he was opening ads. Actually, 1:30:33.520 --> 1:30:36.320 so my best friend's brother like my childhood best friends 1:30:36.400 --> 1:30:39.639 brothers in a group called Dilated People's. So Dilated People's 1:30:39.640 --> 1:30:41.840 had a song with Kanye called this Way, but they 1:30:41.880 --> 1:30:45.040 also opened the College Dropout tour. So I actually went 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:47.920 as like a fifteen year old kid, went to like 1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:49.640 four the dates when came out here to La went 1:30:49.640 --> 1:30:51.400 to the House of Blues twice, and then when he 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:54.800 came to Phoenix, I got to meet Kanye backstage. But 1:30:55.880 --> 1:30:58.200 that show was did you go to the college Dropout Show? 1:30:58.479 --> 1:31:00.920 I didn't Confessions. So the first time I saw You 1:31:01.200 --> 1:31:03.840 See a Consequence do Spaceship Live and he had the 1:31:03.880 --> 1:31:06.519 hip hop Violini's chick out there, John Legend was just 1:31:06.600 --> 1:31:09.519 up there, just on stage, just fucking like no one cared, 1:31:09.640 --> 1:31:12.640 Like I'm telling you going to dark. That's when it 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:15.960 was like, this guy's different. He's different, and now you 1:31:16.000 --> 1:31:17.360 can see it when you look at trave and he 1:31:17.439 --> 1:31:19.800 got the roller coaster going through the crowd and like 1:31:20.040 --> 1:31:22.120 he changed it. Then he had to floating stage for 1:31:22.160 --> 1:31:24.320 the same Pablo, and I was like, no, this is 1:31:24.320 --> 1:31:25.920 the greatest thing of it. I still haven't seen a 1:31:25.960 --> 1:31:28.839 show that was better than that show. When he's floating, 1:31:28.880 --> 1:31:31.080 and I'm like, that's art and now the guys are 1:31:31.120 --> 1:31:32.720 doing it, they're seeing it, and like, all right, we 1:31:32.760 --> 1:31:34.720 can take pieces of that in our own way and 1:31:34.760 --> 1:31:36.880 be creative with it. So it's the stage a lot 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:39.599 of the stage. But it's like, let's get back to bars. 1:31:39.880 --> 1:31:42.040 This is why I like being a butcher. This real ship. 1:31:42.120 --> 1:31:47.080 He's rapped, he's real rap. Nipsey Hustle is nostalgic to 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:50.160 the era that I grew up on, where he's rapping 1:31:50.200 --> 1:31:55.640 about things that are relatable, they're understandable. He's coherent when 1:31:55.680 --> 1:31:59.439 he speaks. This is something that's important in rap music. 1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:04.439 A lot of these rappers are not that. And when 1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:07.040 we talk about the greatest of all time, you gotta 1:32:07.160 --> 1:32:10.000 have that as a component because it's like, you could 1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:12.480 be a great rapper, but what are you rapping about. 1:32:12.640 --> 1:32:14.920 I think Wayne is one of the greatest of all time, 1:32:14.960 --> 1:32:16.639 but he's to me, he's not in the top ten. 1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:20.840 And I think everybody who talks about Wayne thinks he's 1:32:20.840 --> 1:32:23.000 like number one. I think Wayne and Kobe are kind 1:32:23.000 --> 1:32:26.439 of the same God rest Kobe soul, like Kobe fans 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:29.800 and little Wayne fans are very similar. You guys are 1:32:29.840 --> 1:32:31.960 basketball fans. No, No No, what I'm about to say is 1:32:31.960 --> 1:32:34.960 a fact. Listen, if you talk to somebody who loves 1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:38.000 Kobe is the greatest basketball player, he's the goat or 1:32:38.040 --> 1:32:41.000 he's the closest thing to Jordan because they jaded. They're jaded, 1:32:41.280 --> 1:32:44.160 and also they don't watch a lot of basketball. Okay, 1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:47.840 so if we're like like like where he really is 1:32:47.840 --> 1:32:50.960 is like seven or eight, if maybe maybe not even 1:32:50.960 --> 1:32:53.040 that he might there's a lot of publications that don't 1:32:53.040 --> 1:32:55.760 have Kobe in the top ten, but I'm saying, like, 1:32:55.800 --> 1:32:59.559 at best he's like seventh all time probably like probably, 1:33:00.200 --> 1:33:03.559 And to me, that's like great, It's still a Kobe 1:33:03.560 --> 1:33:07.639 Bryant over fucking Kareem Abuil. Listen when you start even 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:10.720 Tim Duncan, no, I'm putting moment when you say I'm 1:33:10.720 --> 1:33:14.960 one thousand rings, two different dynasties on the same team. 1:33:15.240 --> 1:33:17.680 Kobe's in two different dynasties. And as when you say that, 1:33:17.680 --> 1:33:19.840 when you say that as a fact, did it work 1:33:19.920 --> 1:33:23.360 with Manu? Was a Hall of Famer? Tony Parker's going 1:33:23.360 --> 1:33:25.360 to the Hall of Fame. It's popa bitches going to 1:33:25.439 --> 1:33:27.720 the Hall of Fame. Okay, So you're David Robinson's in 1:33:27.720 --> 1:33:31.400 the Hall of Fame. David Robinson, you can't even come 1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:34.880 the Hall of Famers, Okay, but relaxed on the David Robbins. Yeah, 1:33:34.880 --> 1:33:36.960 but like how much did they play together? Tim Duncan 1:33:37.080 --> 1:33:38.840 was where do you win? His first how about you? No? 1:33:39.920 --> 1:33:41.240 Where do you win? His first show? It was the 1:33:41.880 --> 1:33:44.760 lockout year? And who was on the team David who 1:33:44.800 --> 1:33:47.559 was the best player on the team. This is my 1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:50.719 thing with Cobe. Rest in peace, God bless God right there, 1:33:51.000 --> 1:33:54.759 God bless I love Kobe Mamba mentality forever. You weren't 1:33:54.800 --> 1:33:58.360 the best player on the team, Bro when on three 1:33:58.840 --> 1:34:02.040 shock Bro three time, three time, the best player on 1:34:02.240 --> 1:34:03.800 the final is what I would like to point out 1:34:03.800 --> 1:34:05.479 about Kobe. He was the best player on the final 1:34:05.720 --> 1:34:08.920 the last. Lebron was always the best play on point 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:13.440 out something specific every single Wait, wait a minute, because 1:34:13.479 --> 1:34:17.559 I am a Lebron. This coms you, guys. Lebron's to me, 1:34:17.640 --> 1:34:20.479 it's either him or Jordan, but that he's like, I'm 1:34:20.479 --> 1:34:24.479 just using because they they some people, Lebron, They're fucking insane. 1:34:25.040 --> 1:34:27.719 And I would like to point out, Okay, Shaquille O'Neal 1:34:27.880 --> 1:34:30.920 leaves get to ring with d Wade in Miami, gets carried, 1:34:31.000 --> 1:34:33.120 gets carried to her what was going on with the 1:34:33.160 --> 1:34:35.680 Lakers at that time? They were they were they were 1:34:35.680 --> 1:34:38.400 scratching into the playoffs as eight seeds and getting bounced 1:34:38.439 --> 1:34:40.400 out by my Phoenix Suns in round one. He got 1:34:40.439 --> 1:34:42.639 caught with a charge. That does he railed three years 1:34:42.640 --> 1:34:48.479 in a row that effect. But who's he playing with? Chrisms? Okay, Okay, 1:34:48.520 --> 1:34:51.439 so then then I'd like to circle let's circle back. 1:34:51.640 --> 1:34:58.000 No disrespect of those guys. Two Lebron, Yeah, who got 1:34:58.000 --> 1:35:00.080 to the finals in seven? The best of the to 1:35:00.160 --> 1:35:02.439 do this? Ship man, Lebron, He's the He's the best. 1:35:02.439 --> 1:35:07.679 I have a Lebron James toy right there, going got 1:35:07.680 --> 1:35:10.440 to the finals in seven? Who was on his team? 1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:15.800 Moe Williams All Star? What he he didn't make it 1:35:15.840 --> 1:35:19.200 All Stars? He did? Listen, listen, listen, listen. We're not 1:35:19.439 --> 1:35:20.840 this is what we're not going to. Okay, Look, that 1:35:20.960 --> 1:35:24.880 was the worst team outside of Alan Eric, outside of 1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:28.080 Alan I. That was the worst team ever to take 1:35:28.120 --> 1:35:31.799 the NBA debate beat They beat the defending NBA champion. 1:35:32.120 --> 1:35:34.679 He's the conference finals. The act that I not gonna 1:35:34.720 --> 1:35:37.280 act like Lebron to have a terrible cast of characters 1:35:37.320 --> 1:35:39.240 that he just every time. Why Marshall was on this 1:35:40.000 --> 1:35:41.400 You're not going to do that. I think we're not 1:35:41.400 --> 1:35:44.080 going to. That's what We're not going to down on y'all. Finished. 1:35:44.200 --> 1:35:45.840 You could debate that or we could just stay fast. 1:35:46.120 --> 1:35:49.120 Was Williams and all star? Yes once I believe what 1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:52.400 time I'm because of Lebron and because of Lebron not finished? 1:35:52.400 --> 1:35:54.639 What do you do without Leron? Also finished? Because of them? 1:35:55.439 --> 1:35:58.920 You're about to say, oh god, they all stars? Right, 1:35:59.080 --> 1:36:01.040 I'm just saying, who have a big man in the East. 1:36:01.080 --> 1:36:05.720 I'm just saying fat Ben Wallace had two big men. No, 1:36:06.160 --> 1:36:08.439 I'm just saying the team was terrible. The team was 1:36:08.520 --> 1:36:10.320 just saying that those guys are all stars, right, Alan 1:36:10.320 --> 1:36:12.920 and I m a team works. Now you go back 1:36:12.920 --> 1:36:14.719 to that Laker team and you tell me the second 1:36:14.760 --> 1:36:17.920 best player what Laker team? The what is he talking about? 1:36:18.200 --> 1:36:20.200 That went to the finals? No? No, no, the teams 1:36:20.200 --> 1:36:22.720 win exactly the final. I'm telling you the name of 1:36:22.800 --> 1:36:25.080 that the next best player? He had A he had 1:36:25.240 --> 1:36:27.040 Lebron J they have a good tell me the next 1:36:27.120 --> 1:36:32.040 best player. Let's look, I'll tell you right now. If 1:36:32.040 --> 1:36:35.080 you tell me MEVI think I'm out here, So would 1:36:35.080 --> 1:36:38.400 we go? I'm out? And we'd agree that two thousand 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:41.719 and six o seven they were forty to and forty 1:36:41.840 --> 1:36:43.840 and I think they were the eighth seed. So this 1:36:43.880 --> 1:36:45.240 is where this is when they lost to the number 1:36:45.280 --> 1:36:50.240 one seed. Sons correct the phoenix sense of Tim Thomas. Okay, okay, 1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:52.360 wait a minute, Sim Thomas is on that team. Who 1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:55.639 was on the team in six Andrew Biden was? That's 1:36:55.680 --> 1:36:58.479 a fact. That is a fact. Was he the first 1:36:58.520 --> 1:37:02.000 brown year? Okay? Okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait, 1:37:02.600 --> 1:37:05.880 then we agree he was not all he's the first pick? 1:37:06.680 --> 1:37:09.960 Can we agree at the very least picking what can 1:37:10.000 --> 1:37:13.080 we agree? Can we agree that one of the greatest 1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:17.160 role players and six men of all time before crack 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:19.439 hit him was lamar Odoms. That's a fact because he 1:37:19.560 --> 1:37:22.840 was on the team. That's a fact. Anybody on that 1:37:22.880 --> 1:37:26.200 on that Cavaliers team, that's a fact. Is better than 1:37:26.240 --> 1:37:29.360 anybody on the get off fat, that's a fact. Always 1:37:29.400 --> 1:37:32.560 better than anybody that caps. I saw Lebron fact. I 1:37:32.600 --> 1:37:36.320 can't look at it. It does get bad. You got 1:37:36.320 --> 1:37:42.519 fucking Edrew who was starting that's the starting guard. But 1:37:42.520 --> 1:37:45.559 look at Lebron's Chris Mims is the starting center. Andrew. 1:37:45.960 --> 1:37:48.599 If you're supposed to be better than Lebron, get out 1:37:48.600 --> 1:37:50.280 of the fucking first round. If you're supposed to be 1:37:50.320 --> 1:37:52.280 better Lebron win a championship, and he did that and 1:37:52.320 --> 1:37:54.400 on nine and ten and he lost and old again 1:37:54.479 --> 1:37:56.960 because Jerry West served him up. Paul fucking Gasaw on 1:37:56.960 --> 1:37:59.200 a plate. No, the NBA did a disservice by not 1:37:59.280 --> 1:38:01.080 letting them have Chris Paul, and that's how they got 1:38:01.120 --> 1:38:04.120 powers because they felt bad and they should have done that. Right, 1:38:04.160 --> 1:38:05.880 How do you how do you say you can't trade 1:38:05.880 --> 1:38:09.639 them to this? I love Kobe, Kobe too, I love Kobe. 1:38:09.760 --> 1:38:14.280 Tim duncans he's not better, No, no, no, Tim Duncan. 1:38:14.320 --> 1:38:17.000 You want to talk about influence Tim Duncan has Can 1:38:17.040 --> 1:38:19.519 we talk about zero Tim Duncan beating the finals? Tim 1:38:19.600 --> 1:38:21.519 Duncan is the worst dress NBA player of all time? 1:38:21.560 --> 1:38:24.240 Oh yeah, the worst geen? No, yeah he is. He's 1:38:24.280 --> 1:38:26.040 worse than Jordan, but Jordan's jeans. Can we have a 1:38:27.040 --> 1:38:31.760 Jordan's Jacobs. But Tim Duncan was sandals, bro. Yeah, he 1:38:32.240 --> 1:38:35.160 never he never tried to cares exactly say he's just 1:38:35.200 --> 1:38:37.400 the worst. Still the hell of a player. Yeah, no, 1:38:37.479 --> 1:38:39.479 he's a Hall of Famer. He's probably top ten, he's 1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:42.240 just not had a probably top ten. Yeah, probably impeccable. 1:38:42.280 --> 1:38:46.280 His career hasn't been impeccable. No, he's he's a he's 1:38:46.320 --> 1:38:51.519 a top ten. He's one of the top. Tim That's 1:38:51.560 --> 1:38:53.479 what I'm saying. You're the best of your position, the 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:56.840 greatest of all time, and the zero discussion ascute as that, right, 1:38:56.840 --> 1:38:59.519 If Michael Jordan's at the two guard position, okay you can, 1:38:59.600 --> 1:39:01.960 oh you're nothing. Is the Michael Jordan of the power 1:39:01.960 --> 1:39:03.920 forward position. The only person who's going to be the 1:39:03.960 --> 1:39:07.160 lowest Jordan's Kobe, right, is the greatest of the two. 1:39:08.120 --> 1:39:10.200 Kobe's the second best. You got Jordan in front of 1:39:10.640 --> 1:39:12.839 who's he having in front of him? Who was chasingh 1:39:12.920 --> 1:39:15.599 was Pa before Tim Duncan came along. It was Carmelo 1:39:15.720 --> 1:39:18.599 and Karmelong. But then he's not even your top ten. 1:39:19.080 --> 1:39:21.839 I mean he also two time MVP is not top ten. 1:39:21.880 --> 1:39:24.760 I mean, I mean he twelve year old, you know 1:39:24.800 --> 1:39:28.720 what I mean? That did happened? I'm so surprised by 1:39:28.720 --> 1:39:30.840 the way the fact that they had that other very 1:39:30.880 --> 1:39:32.639 up their judging the du contest with all he did 1:39:32.720 --> 1:39:38.360 was anyway? Uh shot. Listen, man, what is what is 1:39:38.479 --> 1:39:42.679 next for earn your leisure? When does this come out, Uh, 1:39:42.840 --> 1:39:45.760 probably Wednesday next week. So we got a big show 1:39:45.800 --> 1:39:47.600 in l A. You guys invited if you want to 1:39:47.600 --> 1:39:51.960 come on show did marchin leven eleventh. That appreciate you. 1:39:52.040 --> 1:39:53.800 Market Monday's Live. We're going to bring out a lot 1:39:53.840 --> 1:39:56.400 of the surprises I got. You guys gotta complaint me 1:39:56.439 --> 1:39:58.559 with the with the investor guy. You guys do Market 1:39:58.560 --> 1:40:01.000 Mondays with he he's gonna be this. He's out here 1:40:01.040 --> 1:40:03.760 right now. Yeah, for sure he's gonna be at the show. 1:40:03.800 --> 1:40:05.800 So Market we got a lot. So we're doing a 1:40:05.840 --> 1:40:08.799 world tour actually for Market Mondays and the first stop 1:40:08.920 --> 1:40:11.640 is La. After La, we go to Toronto, then we 1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:13.320 go to London, then we go to Chicago, then we 1:40:13.320 --> 1:40:16.160 go to Ghana. So wow, that's dope man. Yeah. So 1:40:16.200 --> 1:40:18.360 it's a live show, and our live shows are different. 1:40:18.640 --> 1:40:22.360 It's not like a seminar like it's entertainment. It's theatrics, 1:40:22.479 --> 1:40:25.360 is education, it's all of it. It's a vibe like 1:40:25.439 --> 1:40:27.640 people wearing their best clothes like it's it's dope. You 1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:32.719 gone it all? So no vote theater March eleventh dope. 1:40:32.760 --> 1:40:34.639 And then you know, we got a bunch of differ stuff. 1:40:34.640 --> 1:40:37.960 We're cooking up invest Fest. We were working on that. 1:40:38.000 --> 1:40:40.599 We're gonna announce details on that. That's our financial literacy festival. 1:40:40.640 --> 1:40:42.439 That saw a big, big, big thing that we're do 1:40:42.520 --> 1:40:44.560 in Atlanta every year. So this year is gonna be 1:40:44.600 --> 1:40:46.360 even bigger than it was last year. Actually we had 1:40:46.360 --> 1:40:48.439 Tyler Perry, Steve Harvey. You had fourteen thousand people, So 1:40:48.439 --> 1:40:50.559 this year we're looking for twenty thousand. So yeah, it's 1:40:50.560 --> 1:40:54.360 gonna be crazy. Yeah, three thousand, fourteen, twenty thousand, and then, 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:57.280 you know, just just a bunch of other things. Man, Content, 1:40:57.360 --> 1:41:01.320 more content, more ways to know, expand on the education 1:41:01.720 --> 1:41:04.639 with a podcast network, so Earlyer Leaders and media company 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:07.040 we have we produced podcasts. You guys have podcasts under 1:41:07.040 --> 1:41:09.320 the umbrella. Yeah, seven shows on the Umbrella. They're all 1:41:09.360 --> 1:41:12.760 doing well. So yeah, man, just just looking to just 1:41:12.760 --> 1:41:14.519 to keep expanding. Who do you guys want to interview 1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:16.600 that you haven't interviewed yet in terms of I mean, 1:41:16.640 --> 1:41:20.400 obviously we know you want to interview Drake, you want 1:41:20.439 --> 1:41:22.840 to interview Lil Wayne, But I mean I mean in 1:41:22.920 --> 1:41:24.680 terms that you guys think you could have some Like 1:41:24.720 --> 1:41:27.320 I think the Ross interview was incredible because she guys 1:41:27.360 --> 1:41:29.000 kind of went over some of the franchise shit, and 1:41:29.360 --> 1:41:30.960 I think you know you and the Russell made a 1:41:30.960 --> 1:41:33.000 lot of sense in terms of like what y'all do. 1:41:33.000 --> 1:41:35.320 Who's somebody you guys really want to talk to? I 1:41:35.360 --> 1:41:37.400 always say, and I'll say until he sits next to us, 1:41:37.479 --> 1:41:39.920 and I think it's gonna happen. Sean Carter, I think 1:41:40.000 --> 1:41:42.080 jay Z makes a lot of sense. Worse, I think 1:41:42.080 --> 1:41:44.719 that's the one, right, Yeah, just from a standpoint of 1:41:44.920 --> 1:41:48.840 where we started, especially you know, writing financial literacy lesson plans, 1:41:48.920 --> 1:41:52.120 It started with him and that line that he had 1:41:52.160 --> 1:41:55.200 in Reasonable Doubt, which is his first album obviously all 1:41:55.240 --> 1:41:57.640 Black Scottish Sports and Entertainment until he even and so 1:41:57.920 --> 1:42:01.240 just just peeling that line upon a part in dissecting 1:42:01.280 --> 1:42:04.080 it and really seeing like, wait, let's try to debunk this. 1:42:04.160 --> 1:42:06.200 Let's try to show value in other different ways outside 1:42:06.200 --> 1:42:07.800 of those two things, to show that we can be 1:42:08.320 --> 1:42:10.400 anything we really want if we had the education and 1:42:10.439 --> 1:42:14.280 the resources around it. Just having him there from that 1:42:14.360 --> 1:42:16.960 line to this, I think definitely my number one. That 1:42:16.960 --> 1:42:19.720 would be crazy, Yeah, I think, you know, just thinking 1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:23.719 on a bigger scale, possible Elon Musk Jeff Bezo's Allego 1:42:23.800 --> 1:42:25.960 Dan Goti, who's the richest black person in the world, 1:42:26.000 --> 1:42:30.639 and the Nigeria Warren Buffett. The Musk thing could happen. 1:42:30.840 --> 1:42:33.120 Elon Muther think it definitely could happen. I feel like 1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:36.040 it's just about you know, him being aware of it 1:42:36.160 --> 1:42:37.920 in the right space. It's like Kanye, I feel like 1:42:37.920 --> 1:42:40.120 you'll do anything if it's just depending how he wakes 1:42:40.200 --> 1:42:41.720 up in the morning, you know what I mean. But 1:42:41.760 --> 1:42:44.519 the Elon, I think, will that'll break the Internet? Did 1:42:44.520 --> 1:42:47.479 you guys, like, do you like? I mean, what do 1:42:47.479 --> 1:42:50.880 you guys feel about Twitter? Since he's taken over. I 1:42:50.960 --> 1:42:54.880 was never really huge on Twitter. I appreciate Twitter because 1:42:54.920 --> 1:42:56.400 it's like you just go in there and just say 1:42:56.400 --> 1:42:58.200 you're random thoughts and get off. Like it doesn't I 1:42:58.320 --> 1:43:00.679 use it for like sports news and like random shit. 1:43:01.520 --> 1:43:04.519 It's it's not as addictive as Instagram for me, right, 1:43:05.000 --> 1:43:07.160 So I appreciate Twitter. I think, you know, I don't 1:43:07.160 --> 1:43:09.559 see anything bad. I just feel like Elon's like we're 1:43:09.600 --> 1:43:11.760 just kind of like watching the trial and era of 1:43:11.840 --> 1:43:15.040 like this really rich duge just out firing eighty percent 1:43:15.040 --> 1:43:16.720 of the staff and then figuring it out on the fly. 1:43:16.920 --> 1:43:18.400 So it's kind of cool that it's like to me, 1:43:18.439 --> 1:43:20.840 it's like kind of cool to be like this motherfucker's 1:43:20.880 --> 1:43:23.120 so rich. He's just using this shit as like, yeah, 1:43:23.360 --> 1:43:25.639 there's another asset, and then it'll be a private company 1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:28.240 and it'll be you know, we'll figure out what he 1:43:28.280 --> 1:43:30.240 does with it. But it's a place for people to 1:43:30.680 --> 1:43:33.639 It's a new form of news for a generation. Right, 1:43:33.680 --> 1:43:35.200 Like we used to have to I used to read 1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:37.280 the newspaper, right well, I used to watch the news, 1:43:37.280 --> 1:43:38.840 and now it's like people just go to their phone. 1:43:38.840 --> 1:43:42.120 It's like, oh, no, tweet, something just happened in the world, right, 1:43:42.400 --> 1:43:49.120 I mean, though, last question, let's say someone's got ten 1:43:49.200 --> 1:43:51.920 grand saved up. You guys have covered a bunch of 1:43:51.920 --> 1:43:54.799 industries on your show, whether it's the vending machine hustle, 1:43:55.080 --> 1:43:57.360 or the trucking shit or there's so many ways people 1:43:57.400 --> 1:43:59.760 can get my If you guys were talking to some 1:44:00.760 --> 1:44:04.360 who had ten thousand dollars of like, not that's not 1:44:04.400 --> 1:44:05.960 all the money they had, but they got ten grand 1:44:06.000 --> 1:44:08.719 to start a business with, or to try to invest 1:44:08.800 --> 1:44:12.320 or how would you suggest them what would you have 1:44:12.400 --> 1:44:16.040 them do with that ten grand? If you're advising, the 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:18.479 first thing is to formulate a plan before you just 1:44:18.640 --> 1:44:20.719 really think about what you want to do. Right, Because 1:44:20.760 --> 1:44:23.040 you could do vendor machines, you can buy some stock, 1:44:23.680 --> 1:44:25.640 you can depend on what part of the country, then 1:44:25.640 --> 1:44:29.479 you could potentially buy real estate. But it's going to 1:44:29.520 --> 1:44:31.800 be hard to do anything successful if you don't really 1:44:31.800 --> 1:44:33.920 have a plan in place. So I would say, before 1:44:33.920 --> 1:44:36.800 you do anything, educate yourself, sit down with a pen 1:44:36.880 --> 1:44:40.680 and paper and physically write out a plan of like 1:44:41.160 --> 1:44:45.080 what you think is your best option. And then from there, 1:44:45.240 --> 1:44:47.400 like I said, you could do either one of those things. 1:44:47.800 --> 1:44:51.120 But you've always invest in stocks with very low amount 1:44:51.160 --> 1:44:52.920 of money. You can invest in stocks one thousand dollars, 1:44:52.960 --> 1:44:54.240 so if you want to just put now, you're not 1:44:54.280 --> 1:44:57.439 going to turn that ten thousand to a million, but 1:44:57.720 --> 1:44:59.479 at least it'll be working for you over the course 1:44:59.520 --> 1:45:01.400 of time. If you want to start a business, like 1:45:01.400 --> 1:45:05.200 you said some low costing businesses you have mentioned vending machines, 1:45:05.520 --> 1:45:08.759 you can definitely start that business for under ten thousand dollars. 1:45:08.800 --> 1:45:11.040 So you guys say you got five at your school 1:45:11.040 --> 1:45:14.519 you went to, Yeah, yeah, it's pretty profitable too, and 1:45:14.720 --> 1:45:16.400 it brings in like thirty five hundred a month. Something 1:45:16.439 --> 1:45:20.519 like that that's great. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, it's one 1:45:20.560 --> 1:45:21.920 of those things. Man. It was like there was an 1:45:21.920 --> 1:45:24.639 opportunity there. It's something that we know it was needed. 1:45:24.640 --> 1:45:26.519 The school didn't have any you guys just hire someone 1:45:26.600 --> 1:45:29.760 to go refill it things right there. He runs the 1:45:29.800 --> 1:45:32.080 Vendom machine business for us. But it was a great 1:45:32.120 --> 1:45:33.640 way to give back to our school. You know, we 1:45:33.680 --> 1:45:36.559 didn't see anybody doing anything like that. And the best 1:45:36.600 --> 1:45:38.960 part is that we give a percentage of every month 1:45:39.200 --> 1:45:42.200 of the revenue we give back to the senior class. 1:45:42.720 --> 1:45:44.600 So when we talk about economic hardship, how do we 1:45:44.600 --> 1:45:47.519 combat it? Well, what happens if we can subsidize what 1:45:47.560 --> 1:45:49.760 the prom cost was, or what the yearbook was or 1:45:49.800 --> 1:45:52.320 senior dudes give money to the senior class so they 1:45:52.360 --> 1:45:53.880 don't need to have bake sales and they don't have 1:45:53.880 --> 1:45:56.920 to have these raffles. Right, they're actually creating that economy. 1:45:57.040 --> 1:45:58.640 The kids that are in the school spend money in 1:45:58.640 --> 1:46:00.680 the ven machine, every piece of that, and everybody's going 1:46:00.760 --> 1:46:03.040 to be a senior at some point and so everybody benefits. 1:46:03.080 --> 1:46:05.960 I appreciate you all pulling up. Thank you for having 1:46:06.040 --> 1:46:10.200 us brother. Appreciate March eleventh, the Novo go to go 1:46:10.280 --> 1:46:13.400 to Elesia dot com under the market Monday's World Tour 1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:16.560 tab and if you're in l A, Southern California on 1:46:16.600 --> 1:46:19.439 the West Coast period, pull up the drive. This is 1:46:19.439 --> 1:46:21.360 our first time we ever doing the show, cause we've 1:46:21.360 --> 1:46:24.960 done shows all around the world, New York, London, all over, 1:46:25.000 --> 1:46:26.639 but this is our first time ever doing the show 1:46:27.160 --> 1:46:29.720 in l A on the West coast period. So that's 1:46:29.760 --> 1:46:32.600 a huge that's a dope venue, legendary venue. Yeah, we 1:46:32.680 --> 1:46:36.479 have the verses. We love the versus versus. It was 1:46:37.120 --> 1:46:40.720 it was ray Ja and Omri versus Sammy and and 1:46:40.840 --> 1:46:42.960 uh Mario that that was undercar but it was Mario 1:46:43.160 --> 1:46:46.920 versus was it? It was Mario versus a Mario. I 1:46:46.960 --> 1:46:48.720 always tell everybody that that was the R and B 1:46:48.880 --> 1:46:52.840 version of the dip set locks joint, because I think 1:46:52.840 --> 1:46:55.840 a lot of people were like dip set dip sets, like, no, 1:46:56.840 --> 1:46:59.000 you knew you're going you went in think of Mario 1:46:59.120 --> 1:47:01.320 the hotel. No, no, no oh. I didn't think that, 1:47:01.479 --> 1:47:05.360 but I think that what happened was Omaron has definitively 1:47:05.400 --> 1:47:09.719 more hits than Mario, but Mario actually sang better performer. 1:47:09.880 --> 1:47:12.479 He performed he's sang his heart out and like a 1:47:12.560 --> 1:47:18.400 Marion was eating water. People knew he did that. I couldn't. 1:47:18.400 --> 1:47:23.000 I couldn't even believe it. And Tim, and he's from 1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:24.800 l A wearing Tims in l A. I'm like, what's 1:47:24.800 --> 1:47:28.880 happening here? Interesting night? Interesting? But we were fron We 1:47:28.880 --> 1:47:31.680 were front row for that dipet lots battle. That was 1:47:31.760 --> 1:47:39.160 fucking crazy. Yeah, well look the eleventh Novo watch the podcast. 1:47:39.240 --> 1:47:42.160 How many Market Mondays on Monday? How many like pieces 1:47:42.160 --> 1:47:44.960 of content you guys usually dropping in a month? Well, 1:47:45.080 --> 1:47:47.920 Market Monday comes out every Monday. That's a leisure comes 1:47:47.960 --> 1:47:51.400 out every Tuesday, so at least age and then you 1:47:51.439 --> 1:47:54.160 guys clip everything and yep, there it is. At the minimum. 1:47:54.160 --> 1:47:57.960 Appreciate you all pulling up a big fan of you guys, man, Yes, sir, 1:47:58.040 --> 1:47:58.600 appreciate you