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Speaker 4: Broadcasting live from the world famous Coin Academy. It's another
Speaker 4: episode of Against the Chronicle Show and I'm your host,
Speaker 4: Big Steel, along with Jeff Tonight, we have a gentleman
Speaker 4: I've been trying to get on the show probably for
Speaker 4: the past two years. He just would never talk when
Speaker 4: I tell you so, I described me. He's almost like
Speaker 4: you know how Muhammad Ali was just a cool last motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Certain people is just cool, like you know, like Denzel Washington,
Speaker 4: a cool motherfucker. You feel what I'm saying. Just certain motherfuckers,
Speaker 4: you know, just gonna be cool. This is like him.
Speaker 4: This dude always got a fucking smile on his face,
Speaker 4: and he always got some kind of new venture going
Speaker 4: and would make it so dope. He could have a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of excuses. Now he's probably doing better than
Speaker 4: everybody I know right now for real, the businessman, entrepreneur,
Speaker 4: he's a motherfucker mogo. I'd like to welcome my boy fucker.
Speaker 1: Man appreciate the awesome words.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, oh for sure. You're an inspirational brother. Man.
Speaker 4: I don't just let me. We don't just let anybody
Speaker 4: just come sit down with us.
Speaker 3: Dog.
Speaker 4: You gotta be And my thing is this, you don't
Speaker 4: have to necessarily be the most famous motherfucker in the world.
Speaker 4: You just got to be interesting.
Speaker 1: Dig that.
Speaker 4: You can't be a normal, just a human being walking around.
Speaker 4: I would definitely say you an acception gang of silly motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. A ship with the silly.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we let the ass come to with it.
Speaker 4: We try to focus.
Speaker 3: We try to focus on, you know, on grown up
Speaker 3: on grown up men, and especially from our side of
Speaker 3: the tracks. You know who've who've had a little run
Speaker 3: ins with the street life or the rap street life
Speaker 3: or the gang bang life or whatever. And you know,
Speaker 3: this is what our show is about, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to shine that light on uh motherfuckers who can come
Speaker 3: from them and fucked up. You know, they always cast
Speaker 3: us to be them, them dangerous walks of life or
Speaker 3: the minister societies or you know with my boy, Big
Speaker 3: Daddy Kane, you saw, you know he would grow up
Speaker 3: to be nothing but a hulum. You know that's kind
Speaker 3: of a maybe in zeal or something. The shooting, that's
Speaker 3: kind of that's kind of definition they tag on us
Speaker 3: from the beginning. So we like to shine light on
Speaker 3: like you said in the beginning, I want to focus
Speaker 3: on just the famous rap nigga or none shit like that.
Speaker 3: We like to just focus on positivity from real niggas period.
Speaker 3: You feel me so exactly, And.
Speaker 4: I think that's always been my thing, bro, me coming
Speaker 4: where I come from. You've been back to Cleveland, before. Yeah, Brian,
Speaker 4: from Cleveland to Cleveland is a fucked up city. It's like,
Speaker 4: so I used to dream about getting out that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: I love it. I love my city, but I used
Speaker 4: to dream about getting out of there. I used to say, man,
Speaker 4: And I had the most basic wishes I should dream. Man.
Speaker 4: I used to want to have a house without no
Speaker 4: roaches and the wrecks. That was my most basic dream.
Speaker 4: I said, if I don't have no roaches, I'm own dog.
Speaker 4: You know, if if I don't have no roaches, because
Speaker 4: you know, you can be broke on the West Coast
Speaker 4: and poor dog. At least y'all got this good ass weather,
Speaker 4: and your worst neighborhood looks better than like some of
Speaker 4: our best shit. You know, you could put the heights
Speaker 4: tag at the end of some of these houses, like
Speaker 4: you could put Watts heights, and that'll be in Cleveland.
Speaker 4: That'd be a good neighborhood. Within't to Brian, that'd be
Speaker 4: a cool neighborhood. It's getting better now, man, But I
Speaker 4: used to dream, like a motherfucker. Man. That just what
Speaker 4: it would feel like just to have something. Not that
Speaker 4: my parents was fucked up. They went to work every
Speaker 4: day I'll plawed money and salute my parents. I didn't
Speaker 4: have no bum as parents. But we was in the
Speaker 4: hood thog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every unfortunately we are. We couldn't come from them
Speaker 3: silver spoon lifestyles. You see ship, We saw Steve on TV,
Speaker 3: Ricky Schroeder and bullshit like that. You know, even for
Speaker 3: a normal motherfucker, it's still was hard striving you getting meal.
Speaker 3: Looked at my fucking parents as like hard working motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: But still maybe we was living in Counting, so shit,
Speaker 3: it's you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Motivation.
Speaker 3: It was different from you know when you went over
Speaker 3: the motherfucking uh. You know, maybe if the church member
Speaker 3: was having a function and ship you got to go
Speaker 3: to their house and they living in the great part
Speaker 3: of town. You know, they living in the face. You're
Speaker 3: looking around like now this is living.
Speaker 4: You feel you almost getting nerds for one of the
Speaker 4: homies come over. I remember I had one of the
Speaker 4: homies that stayed like on the heights. He stayed up
Speaker 4: like Shaker Heights. It's kind of liked none of them.
Speaker 4: It was like a little area.
Speaker 3: I didn't had no bust in home.
Speaker 4: See he had he had cousins and stuff, that stayed
Speaker 4: over there, so we would come down right and man,
Speaker 4: he stayed at night over the crib one night and
Speaker 4: a couple of other homies and he said, Broma, go
Speaker 4: downstairs get something to drink. And I was just like, man, damn,
Speaker 4: I said, I got it for you. And so racing
Speaker 4: down the stairs to go to things, he hit them
Speaker 4: lights on. It's like the walls starting move, he said.
Speaker 1: He said, good ship.
Speaker 4: Then the homie was like, homie slipped on the floor.
Speaker 4: He said, man, I think something was playing on my
Speaker 4: leg and I said that that was Ben. That was
Speaker 4: Ben being this motherfucker. You don't exactly come you come
Speaker 4: from the same type of environment, right.
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't come from that type of environment. Man.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Uh, we were standing up and uh, not the best,
Speaker 5: but not the worst of ship.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 4: So he was one of the my heightest niggas.
Speaker 1: I was like in Highland Park. That sh it ain't nothing.
Speaker 5: It was niggas in black fuss. Yeah, it ain't easy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: Uh, my mom's and my peoples come from Chicago, so
Speaker 5: that's the root.
Speaker 4: So you were mid with.
Speaker 5: Yeah at heart you feel me and they deep.
Speaker 3: Where we grind me as some motherfucking hell.
Speaker 5: Yeah right now, So they come from them conditions, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm talking about. And so where we were
Speaker 5: to them with awesomeness, you feel me? Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 5: looking back, it ain't wasn't that awesome, you feel me.
Speaker 5: And then we eventually moved out to dinner Pasadena, which
Speaker 5: is you know, super beautiful, you feel me, manicured lines
Speaker 5: and all the underground shit is hidden, you know, So
Speaker 5: just came on up like Jefferson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And uh, different spots and Dina or you know, you
Speaker 5: got spots and Dina that look like Watts, you know.
Speaker 1: Then you got Spots and.
Speaker 5: Dina that looked like motherfucker Beverly Hills, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, all meshed up real close.
Speaker 3: By, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You got a different dynamic going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: They they work real hard to keep it the rose Parade,
Speaker 5: real Rose paradish, you know what I mean. So they
Speaker 5: paint the projects, they'll keep everything nice and pretty, you
Speaker 5: feel me. So, uh the roaches and shit, nah, but
Speaker 5: I had different shit, like you got all these trees
Speaker 5: and Dina, So you know, Nigga had to deal with
Speaker 5: rats every now and then you feel me. I'm terrified
Speaker 5: to motherfucking rats. Me a rat getting the motherfucking house.
Speaker 1: And this game over. I'm ready to move, you know what,
Speaker 1: burn the whole house down.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Blow that shit up, you
Speaker 5: know what i mean, but not too much rough rough.
Speaker 1: Conditions like that. You know they was hustlers, man.
Speaker 5: Everybody in my family is like the bad boys were
Speaker 5: dope dealers and motherfucking peas, and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And the girls were like, go to work and look
Speaker 5: all professional and shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Which path did you lean towards?
Speaker 1: I was a nerd man, I'm a super nerd.
Speaker 3: You feel me.
Speaker 5: I want all the accolades and dina. You know, niggas
Speaker 5: know me. They know me for championships.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 5: Spelling bees, you know, essay contests, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: What's that ship where they got the math? What was
Speaker 5: we doing that to Cathline? Some shit we was doing,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. An athlete too, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. And then you know, street elements started
Speaker 5: to seep in.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I was gonna ask you, man, because you're
Speaker 4: real well around the dude, and you one of those dudes. Man,
Speaker 4: think you so smart. You probably had to keep your
Speaker 4: ass busy and the kids kept you occupied with something
Speaker 4: at all times, right right, because it seem like you
Speaker 4: can get into some mischievousness which were gonna talk about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would create my own shit. I get into shit,
Speaker 5: but not boring motherfuckers was doing. So I guess the
Speaker 5: first real thing uh me and the boys got into
Speaker 5: it was like stealing shit, jack and shit, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. It was jacking bikes. We take my
Speaker 5: fucker's bikes, hook them up, you know, do all that
Speaker 5: shit slanging, you know. Then that went to cars, you
Speaker 5: feel me, the older homies with jack and cars. Now,
Speaker 5: like I said, I grew up in Harland Park, so
Speaker 5: I was used to dealing with essays.
Speaker 3: You feel me.
Speaker 1: I wasn't uncomfortable dealing with essays, you feel me. And
Speaker 1: then at that time.
Speaker 5: You had niggas pushing the l gang shit, so you
Speaker 5: had to pass than the Latin Kings, you feel me.
Speaker 5: They would fuck with the brothers, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: They end up you know, uh yeah, but uh so
Speaker 5: fucking with them, you feel me. Growing up. Uh, they
Speaker 5: were jacking cars, and I would go over there with
Speaker 5: my boy, oops, and we'd learned how to do this shit,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. We see how they you know,
Speaker 5: break the side off the chevy and move the teeth
Speaker 5: down and start the car up, like oh shot, we
Speaker 5: reverse engineered the science, like damn, how do we get
Speaker 5: to that old jother?
Speaker 1: So we would go on a spree.
Speaker 5: You know, I think that first little round we motherfucking
Speaker 5: broke into probably like fifteen cars, right, so, but we
Speaker 5: was messing up. We couldn't get the car, so we
Speaker 5: just fucking their car up.
Speaker 1: We get in that joint. Uh.
Speaker 5: Knew how to get into different windows and cars, different
Speaker 5: little techniques depending on what the car was whatever and
Speaker 5: so uh. And that's why I ended up going for
Speaker 5: Cherokees too, because you could just pop that little, uh
Speaker 5: little diamond window it used to have, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Just pop that little diamond window and get
Speaker 5: up in the joint, break the little side little box off,
Speaker 5: take it off. And they got these little teeth in there,
Speaker 5: these little metal teeth.
Speaker 1: Click that boy down one time, Dean bean bing, you
Speaker 1: get excited. They didn't want more time, you feel me and.
Speaker 5: You're up out of here, you know. So you had
Speaker 5: to deal with that little box being broken. So you
Speaker 5: see a lot of times cats wrapping something up around
Speaker 5: it or taking you back up, you know. And you
Speaker 5: had easier cars like uh toyotas.
Speaker 1: You could take them out with scissors. You feel me,
Speaker 1: break the scissor off.
Speaker 5: You could open the car with that joint and pop
Speaker 5: punch that joint right down into the uh they got
Speaker 5: issue the ignition and just turn that off of goal.
Speaker 4: I'm tripping all you said, you've broken the cars the
Speaker 4: first I can just imagine the motherfucker coming go to
Speaker 4: word like that. Just don't came and fucked up my oldest.
Speaker 3: I can't get mad as the motherfucker didn't even take
Speaker 3: the motherfuckers came and Tom stood up. Was was was
Speaker 3: after lifestyle? Like because you know you you was You
Speaker 3: was a smart, articulate you know, young kid. Yeah, what
Speaker 3: lured you? Just being in the atmosphere, the environment, my
Speaker 3: peoples I.
Speaker 5: Got I think now as I look back, I think
Speaker 5: I got.
Speaker 1: A problem or I had a problem. You feel me.
Speaker 5: I just like to get into things like being a
Speaker 5: live wire.
Speaker 3: You feel me. It's chievous, that's what we do with
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We definitely seemed like one of them cats that's so
Speaker 4: smart that you just got to keep his ass occupied
Speaker 4: with something. Man, you know what you're going in to soccer?
Speaker 5: That's engaging me though, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 5: I was engaging the heart racing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: pulling it off, having the heart to do it, getting
Speaker 5: the car driving, not even knowing how to drive a car.
Speaker 5: You know, first we just started off like, man, we
Speaker 5: don't need to.
Speaker 4: Figure out how oh is you doing all this?
Speaker 1: This is like elementary school, you feel me. Then it's
Speaker 1: just like fifth grade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they shit, it's on milk crate trying to steer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got cracked for it right now, Jane Cars, Nah,
Speaker 5: I ain't never got caught up for nothing until like
Speaker 5: high school.
Speaker 4: We gonna get through that right here. So you go,
Speaker 4: that's your entry point. Is the fucking with cars?
Speaker 5: This ship, I mean gang of Cars were talking about
Speaker 5: going in sixty seconds?
Speaker 4: Was you making some money?
Speaker 1: Not till later it was just for the fun of it.
Speaker 3: You always just getting cars just to jo Niggas did
Speaker 3: then enough that the hood was just just doing we
Speaker 3: didn't know about making money and dry this motherfucker around
Speaker 3: the park off right like that right niggas he thinking about, no, buddy,
Speaker 3: I gotta go home. Later, were about to see an
Speaker 3: even with Nigga twelve and coming home with money, and
Speaker 3: you do this ship for fun. That's why I said.
Speaker 1: You, what's your favorite carjacking movie? Only made like four.
Speaker 3: Five of them. That New Jersey Drive was the ship
Speaker 3: New Jersey Drive. I did a song on that soundtrack
Speaker 3: and motherfucker's added that movie was was cracking.
Speaker 5: And that was kind of like that mimic kind of
Speaker 5: close they were. They had East Coast feel to it though,
Speaker 5: but just like that, like we had a crew the cars,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, man, let's go get
Speaker 5: a whip.
Speaker 1: Let's go get it.
Speaker 5: And I used to hang out with older people too,
Speaker 5: so and that's when we started learning how to make
Speaker 5: the money. When the older homies was seeing how we were.
Speaker 5: We were getting all these whips.
Speaker 1: Like how these little niggas pulling off more whipstock? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I just had a good spot too, Like I never
Speaker 5: went to nobody's house. Your house is your sacred ground.
Speaker 5: I always believe you a fool if you go into
Speaker 5: a man's crib.
Speaker 1: Trying to take from him.
Speaker 5: So you know you got coming, whatever you got coming.
Speaker 5: But when you to me, you out in public, low key,
Speaker 5: your shit is supposed.
Speaker 1: To get taken if you park it spur certain spots.
Speaker 5: You feel me, if you park in your fly luxury
Speaker 5: car all the way in the back of the theater,
Speaker 5: all in the cut nigga with coverings and bushes, you asking.
Speaker 1: Me to take this.
Speaker 4: Basically in front of a roost from and some shit.
Speaker 5: If you leave in your keys in your car and
Speaker 5: you think you got enough time to run in the
Speaker 5: store and I'm walking by the younger version this were
Speaker 5: talking about the you know, we interviewing this younger version
Speaker 5: cat right, you know we're going back in time because
Speaker 5: I've learned how to channel those energies and we could
Speaker 5: get to that later, but I learned how to channel that, uh,
Speaker 5: that feeling that comes up like you want to get
Speaker 5: into something, into business adventures. And that's why you're always
Speaker 5: saying I always got a new venture because that energy
Speaker 5: I've learned to get excited about, Like you know, I
Speaker 5: break down when I go to a concert and I
Speaker 5: don't enjoy any kind.
Speaker 1: You could take me to any.
Speaker 5: Concert and I'll enjoy it for the whole art of
Speaker 5: the business part of it.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 5: I break down the whole shit. I get invited to
Speaker 5: QBES three on three. I follow a cord all the
Speaker 5: way outside to the motherfucking satellite uh truck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like damn, where's this.
Speaker 4: Rock figure out?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: See the type of dude you would roll up to
Speaker 4: this motherfucker to be a satellite and a parking like
Speaker 4: you're talking, I can go live.
Speaker 1: That's why I got this screen. I'm at that three
Speaker 1: on three.
Speaker 5: Were there for a whole separate for some West comedy
Speaker 5: gym shit, and we invited out Cuban vite rplaw go.
Speaker 5: We on this trip, and we down there chilling pictures
Speaker 5: on the web with all this doctor j everybody out there,
Speaker 5: and I'm tripping a fanning of some whole other stuff.
Speaker 5: I'm tripping on the logistics, the arena, the price going
Speaker 5: over here as opposed to why he went from crypto to.
Speaker 1: Whooped you whoop. I'm following the cords.
Speaker 5: I understand where the tables are, just like we got
Speaker 5: the media center broken down, So I'll following the cords.
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, where's these? Why is it a test here?
Speaker 5: And why is it rolling there instead of going here?
Speaker 5: So I'm following it and I'm like, damn, this is
Speaker 5: a long cable. I thought you lose after so many
Speaker 5: I said, oh, this is a different type of cabling.
Speaker 1: Oh look at the you know.
Speaker 5: And I go all the way outside to the satellite truck,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So you know I've learned
Speaker 5: the channel all that energy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So you know not to digress. But you know, the
Speaker 5: youngster you feel me had it that same way he was.
Speaker 5: He would get juiced up and had nowhere to wrecked it.
Speaker 5: And you're too young to even be allowed to so
Speaker 5: many activities. You can't drive, you can't do this, you
Speaker 5: can't do that, you can't do that. You can't you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Because they expect your mind to
Speaker 5: be at a different But if your IQ is kind
Speaker 5: of higher and you already like with it, you think
Speaker 5: you wit it. Like this little person thinks he don't
Speaker 5: see himself as this little dude. I'm looking back at
Speaker 5: fifth grader's I look, I'm driving sometimes, man, I look,
Speaker 5: I said, ain't no way, bro?
Speaker 1: Was that me? Not that little dude. Ain't no way,
Speaker 1: ain't no way.
Speaker 5: And that's probably why he got away with a little
Speaker 5: shit too, because you probably see him walking through the
Speaker 5: parking lit I ain't no way man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look that's what I say. You look real inconspicuous, like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is a cool dude. He's not hurting the white
Speaker 4: nice y.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The next thing you know, they whipped.
Speaker 1: Gone up gown gown gown.
Speaker 5: And so we might double back at this spot. I
Speaker 5: might get two cars out the parking lot, bounce, we
Speaker 5: go parking.
Speaker 1: Like, man, let's go back.
Speaker 5: That was That was kind of because we were timing
Speaker 5: like there wasn't no security or ain't nobody, you know,
Speaker 5: it's just empty.
Speaker 1: Let's go back, take another one, same spot.
Speaker 4: You feel me, He's going back to the same.
Speaker 1: Same spot, burning him out. Yeah, it was a big old.
Speaker 3: Like I said, when you mother frush, because when you
Speaker 3: were at that, I don't mind.
Speaker 4: Yeah, was always the big black nigga. So everywhere I went,
Speaker 4: people knew it was him. He was over there. He
Speaker 4: was the one over there fight you know. So I
Speaker 4: was always getting cut. You just looked like you was
Speaker 4: one of them. Hide and plain sight, just blending in
Speaker 4: type of little kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know, uh yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they would never suspect he could be walking around
Speaker 4: the crime scene. They didn't think about his head.
Speaker 5: And yeah, they ain't worried about me, you know, and
Speaker 5: even at school when I would get into stuff at school,
Speaker 5: because it would.
Speaker 1: Be the same way.
Speaker 5: You know, I'd be the kid that got in trouble
Speaker 5: for selling candy or you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know why I.
Speaker 3: Didn't want a nigga push him candle? Well what did
Speaker 3: they what they associate that with? I used to try
Speaker 3: to push candy at school. You used to always get
Speaker 3: in trouble. Why why they wrote the ship it's fucking candy.
Speaker 3: Well you know what they think thinking they like nigga,
Speaker 3: you push it herving were he ain't got diabetes or something,
Speaker 3: they eat a candy bar, they might be liable because
Speaker 3: they can say they got it, that's true, or somebody
Speaker 3: choke on some shit or your ass crazy.
Speaker 4: And you never put the raised blades in the muffler,
Speaker 4: that's true, that's true.
Speaker 3: We ain't putting nowherey We serving indeed got all that
Speaker 3: hypothetical ship you cover with. It's motherfucker talking about razor blades.
Speaker 4: Sh hypothetical. They got case scenarios for your ass. You
Speaker 4: can't eat the next we don't want to be liable
Speaker 4: or something that they still thinking say they don't.
Speaker 3: Want to motherfucker, go ahead, spend their twenty five cent
Speaker 3: on this loud Later on this pack that I got
Speaker 3: for fifteen cent, I'll trying to serve it for twenty five. Man,
Speaker 3: Let me get off y'all having these little weaked shit.
Speaker 3: Y'all give it the kids, I cream and Ship at school.
Speaker 3: Let the nigga serve some candy. Trying to get my introduction.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get my introduction going. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, right all right, I'm trying to get my
Speaker 3: introduction to the to the hood, to the hood. Ways
Speaker 3: you get me, I'll see the niggas out there like okay, okay,
Speaker 3: that's all. Let me go to the store this morning.
Speaker 3: Give me a couple of these suckers a couple of packs,
Speaker 3: and now, Laters and Ship won't if you won't, and
Speaker 3: I'm breaking the motherfuckers down. No, you can't get the
Speaker 3: whole pack, my nigga. You get one now, Later, nigga,
Speaker 3: ten cent, give it up. I'm trying to get my
Speaker 3: introduction going.
Speaker 1: Imagine if the educators had the power to uh.
Speaker 5: Witness that and harness that energy and start crafting that,
Speaker 5: you know, that entrepreneurialship any early you would flo.
Speaker 3: Had a mind stealers and more of CEOs of corporations
Speaker 3: exactly so exactly one more thing. They don't want you hustling, Okay,
Speaker 3: but they get your ass out there and hustle a
Speaker 3: boxing can exact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure here you might be impeded.
Speaker 3: They come up here and serve my own ship. But
Speaker 3: then every year y'all rolled around and want me take
Speaker 3: these thousand dollar bars of chocolate hout on the block.
Speaker 3: Now you're feeling pressured because if you don't sell enough,
Speaker 3: you can't go on that motherfucking trippers. Yes, knowing your
Speaker 3: check this out family broke as a motherfucker. Ain't nobody
Speaker 3: trying to buy no five dollar chocolate bars. Now you're
Speaker 3: trying to hustle everybody in the family, the sister, the aunties,
Speaker 3: You calling up people at the church. You trying to
Speaker 3: sell these motherfucking five dollar chocolate bars.
Speaker 4: Nigga, fuck you crazy. I'm gonna tell you what I did. Man.
Speaker 4: They gave me a box of candy bars and seal
Speaker 4: and I have to steal a double because I was
Speaker 4: on the football team.
Speaker 3: And say say you didn't eat some of the montherfun.
Speaker 4: I ate.
Speaker 3: This, man, I say, you want try your bob to
Speaker 3: pay for him like.
Speaker 4: This, I had like a double box. I played football,
Speaker 4: so I had to raise little fifty dollars from my
Speaker 4: little uniform, you know, Cleveland school to support the motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So I go home and I'm like, I got a dollar, right,
Speaker 4: I don't say that. I said I could eat one.
Speaker 3: There was one t that trick nigga that shouldn't got work,
Speaker 3: and it was one of the ones thought that had
Speaker 3: the rice crispy things in the caramel, right, and I
Speaker 3: ate that and I.
Speaker 4: Said, man, I get me. I was just gonna eat lunch.
Speaker 4: I ain't one with the carremel. And that ship was
Speaker 4: so good. They didn't know I don't make like chen
Speaker 4: candy bars.
Speaker 3: Dog, you can't just the ballate about five of the
Speaker 3: motherfuckers and he looking at the up the little envelope
Speaker 3: and it got one dollar in that something I.
Speaker 4: Phoned out right. I thought it was a cut pound
Speaker 4: on the inside of that motherfucker that you got a
Speaker 4: free cheese hamburger up at Wendy's. You got a free
Speaker 4: hamburger Wendy. So I saw those, I went took my
Speaker 4: six things to Wendy's. That nigga, you I ain't have
Speaker 4: no money. I'm trying to I'm smart. I use this
Speaker 4: man before you know what, man, My mama came in there.
Speaker 4: She said, give me them candy bars. She had some
Speaker 4: people at the church that go by all of them,
Speaker 4: so I'll come with one. She said, what other box
Speaker 4: that boy? And I'm like, oh, I might have left
Speaker 4: that school of lork. He said, quick wiring, motherfucker, you
Speaker 4: ain't left no boxing schools up. She went in the
Speaker 4: room and pulled my things back and saw that box
Speaker 4: and the rappers all behind the bed. She whopped my
Speaker 4: ass to beat your got my ass. She had to
Speaker 4: take her money from she got away for that whole bot.
Speaker 3: She said, all dollars that all that ship. But it
Speaker 3: come on you on your schemes. Why they do that
Speaker 3: to us.
Speaker 4: Though, using pieces in their business like this, No I don't.
Speaker 3: I just don't get that ship. Nigga. We and we
Speaker 3: already like you know, struggling, starving. They expect the nigga
Speaker 3: to go out. Who the fuck can afford to pay
Speaker 3: for a five dollar chocolate bar?
Speaker 1: The people coming out of Ralphs.
Speaker 3: And then your black ass can't go to the motherfucking
Speaker 3: white neighborhood is selling them because they gonna look at
Speaker 3: you like, nigga, you gonna stole these motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: Right man? You know what?
Speaker 3: So twelve then they used to rob niggas blind man,
Speaker 3: what the fuck was all that boys? Ship? And it
Speaker 3: always went down to the motherfucking I never got your
Speaker 3: CDs man, my motherfucking records, But what it was, I
Speaker 3: got an ass hooper for that too.
Speaker 4: I did that ship right, and they were still just random.
Speaker 3: Out smart enough to know not to do that bullshit.
Speaker 3: It was just having you got your ass knocked out.
Speaker 4: And I put my mama's name on that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Remember that big ass motherfucking phone that just sit on
Speaker 3: the table. It was big and green or yellow. Nigga,
Speaker 3: you get cracked like a motherfucker bean. You come in
Speaker 3: here with some fucking record scabs and ship please, niggas,
Speaker 3: I'm talking about it. I used to try to run
Speaker 3: to the stove for some twelve inures when raps started, Cause, man,
Speaker 3: let me walk in the store with a fucking record
Speaker 3: in the house. Moms would kick your motherfucking what the
Speaker 3: fuck you spending money on this ship? Fu? Man?
Speaker 4: You know what my mama, man, I signed them for
Speaker 4: my mama's name, right. I was one of them niggas
Speaker 4: side with my mama's name. Right. So she kept getting
Speaker 4: these albums. She what is this?
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 3: Ain't one of this sposed?
Speaker 1: Mom's on the phone, all you.
Speaker 3: Gotta be upside the head for the caddy and you
Speaker 3: with it did so fucking could love be a house
Speaker 3: ship to pick this up.
Speaker 4: Mom's on the phone with the people, right, She's like,
Speaker 4: I haven't ordered nothing to do, not send nothing else
Speaker 4: over here out of order. They said, well, we have
Speaker 4: a the sign thing. My mom says, you ain't gotta
Speaker 4: sign nothing from me. Send it them people. This the mail, right,
Speaker 4: they send the they send a thing.
Speaker 3: She'd have seen your ass.
Speaker 4: She was like, other right there. My mama said, come here,
Speaker 4: can't what was this right here? And I said, I
Speaker 4: don't know, mama, And this you gotta remember this back
Speaker 4: in the day. So the ship was all pig dog
Speaker 4: right there. And so my mama, man, she grabbed this
Speaker 4: thing that you can get strapped to a person. Just
Speaker 4: bore my ass off the skin record. It was your
Speaker 4: ass ordering through. They just sent every Columbnia house. Yes, everything,
Speaker 4: come over there. She had Duran, Duran come, he ordered
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 3: He wasn't even getting no nigger records.
Speaker 4: He was just getting They were taking you. They would
Speaker 4: send you the top records. You didn't have no order
Speaker 4: things outside of your initial ship. They based on your taste.
Speaker 4: And you know, I guess probably because I ordered some
Speaker 4: mom remember that she used to go the craft.
Speaker 3: Work ship for friends.
Speaker 4: I ordered all that ship.
Speaker 3: Right what, I'll see why she got your ass. Somebody
Speaker 3: getting told you get your glass to low Beach. It's
Speaker 3: sticky call it. He got running up candy accounts and
Speaker 3: record fucking clear of the house and count.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so a mecca.
Speaker 3: So you're in the middle school when this is going on,
Speaker 3: when you're selling the candy and stuff, right, No, that
Speaker 3: was elementary school.
Speaker 4: Elementary school. So what was your next kip you're doing?
Speaker 4: How long did you fuck with the cars?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: I don't think that ever really left me, but we
Speaker 5: just went wild once we realized how to do it,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. In junior high, I think
Speaker 5: we went wild doing that stuff. And then you know, uh,
Speaker 5: the older dudes got kind of caught up in some
Speaker 5: big ass sting and that kind of slowed everybody's down,
Speaker 5: you know, slowed the tempo down on that, you feel me,
Speaker 5: But the skill set in the thrill to just be
Speaker 5: like uh, for me, it was more being able to
Speaker 5: I thought it was fascinating being able to turn this
Speaker 5: thing on, you know what I mean, to be able
Speaker 5: to like crack a safe or because each thing, each
Speaker 5: model was different, and then each year they got like
Speaker 5: smarter and would create a little different mechanisms to make
Speaker 5: it harder for you to get that joint, you know,
Speaker 5: Like the Grand Cherokee you couldn't do it no more
Speaker 5: that same move that you did on the little wagon,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And all the Chevyes was
Speaker 5: kind of like easy work, you know. So it's just
Speaker 5: like the models, and then you start wanting to learn
Speaker 5: how to do the hot wiring. You know, you want
Speaker 5: to start learning different techniques, like it started turning digital,
Speaker 5: so you know, being able to do the capture keys,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and turn them joints on,
Speaker 5: capturing the signals for the garages and all that good stuff,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you got advanced with it then yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: The niggas are walking around now with antennas and shipp
Speaker 4: through Yeah right now for your fob. Is that yeah,
Speaker 4: And take the signal for your fob and turn your
Speaker 4: shit on.
Speaker 1: Turn your ship right down, and your ship.
Speaker 4: That's why motherfuckers got the maganism key cases with the
Speaker 4: don't even.
Speaker 1: Yeah you just take you go to a car and
Speaker 1: program again and just turn the car on. Just hook
Speaker 1: up into that joint it's a computer and turn that
Speaker 1: joint on.
Speaker 4: You feel me? That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So, I mean that's sophisticated.
Speaker 5: So you know, I don't think nobody will really be
Speaker 5: on that because there's so much tracking and stuff like
Speaker 5: that on cars now, you know, Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm about the loop. I don't know anymore. But I
Speaker 1: would assume I would assume.
Speaker 5: That those cats would It'll have to be like a
Speaker 5: like they're gone to sixty seconds type thing, like where
Speaker 5: it's a big order and you're doing something for like
Speaker 5: one of those syndicate cats that's gonna be sending it
Speaker 5: on afraid or something.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Let's fuck up a nigga, put your car on the boat.
Speaker 3: See that again for again. Oh yeah, man, you let
Speaker 3: motherfucker tell you right down.
Speaker 4: He's so crazy. When I went to New Mexico State,
Speaker 4: you would always see on the news they had a
Speaker 4: video the police chief over there driving the stolen car
Speaker 4: Chexas plates still on and everything. They come right over there,
Speaker 4: pass snatch a car if you able to drive in
Speaker 4: that fuck they ain't. Nobody do nothing about this showing
Speaker 4: on tape, Life on tape. Police officer in the Mexican
Speaker 4: town of Waters is driving a stolen car still had
Speaker 4: the nerve to add of plates on there.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question. You believe in carma?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Hell yeah?
Speaker 3: How about you? Definitely? So?
Speaker 5: You know how about uh you seen like that Spider
Speaker 5: Man shit, different dimensions you believe in different.
Speaker 1: Dimensions the reality? Yeah? So, uh dig this right. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the car jacket ship. Uh.
Speaker 5: Me and wifey. You know this is a few years
Speaker 5: move now. Me and wife are doing her thing and
Speaker 5: uh I get her a car for you know, a
Speaker 5: push present for her, uh for my first born Phoenix
Speaker 5: her Uh dream car was a range driver.
Speaker 1: So we get this rains.
Speaker 5: And I hook it up like you know, put all.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm into curating making things look pretty, so
Speaker 5: I make this.
Speaker 1: Car like a work of perfection. She loved this thing.
Speaker 1: It was like a root beer purple Matt Freeze.
Speaker 4: I can see some stuff. You you got very good take.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I appreciate it. You feel me, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm outside the car outside you feel me?
Speaker 5: And I mean in seconds, I go outside and I
Speaker 5: don't even notice because I got so many little whips.
Speaker 5: You feel me, don't even notice. I go on to
Speaker 5: my other car. It wasn't until I get in my
Speaker 5: Testa and I look at the the armrest is broken off.
Speaker 4: I said, somebody tried to check I'll break into my car.
Speaker 5: And I remember my keys being in the in the
Speaker 5: range and I looked, I said, out the range gone.
Speaker 1: So I go and rewind the tape.
Speaker 5: I mean we talking about seconds, Yeah, be lapsed.
Speaker 4: They was just up in there, motherfuck, go and gone.
Speaker 5: But I left my key in there, so they were
Speaker 5: just and they were just going through the cars. And uh,
Speaker 5: happened to notice that my car turned on. You know what,
Speaker 5: I'm saying, oh, it's on. You feel me now? Of
Speaker 5: all my cars, I always got my tracker shit on
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, call it whatever reason.
Speaker 1: You want to. This one instance, I ain't got the
Speaker 1: tracking system turned on on my guard right, So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I can't even get to it.
Speaker 5: So I put a little apb out through the little
Speaker 5: through the streets, like, man, if y'all get eyes on
Speaker 5: my prize, man, let me know, so we could go
Speaker 5: repossess it and all that.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking in my head, I was mad. I
Speaker 1: was hot, steaming. I was like, boy, they so lucky
Speaker 1: I had that, you know. I was like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 5: And I said, if I would have came outside, it
Speaker 5: would have just been drama.
Speaker 4: You feel me?
Speaker 1: And I got happy, man, I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: that was the little that was my I hope that
Speaker 1: nigga has a good time.
Speaker 5: I hope that nigga has a good time in the web. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I said, to clear my slate, I hope that clears
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 4: You feel me?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Uh, wife, he was mad for a cool minute, and
Speaker 5: I was trying to explain to her. You know that
Speaker 5: little perspect active right there, you know, what I mean.
Speaker 5: I was like, that was me in a different dimension.
Speaker 5: I don't want to come out and hurt me in
Speaker 5: a different.
Speaker 1: You know, for reality, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And in mosity, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, over a whip, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I got insurance, I got I got the bread back
Speaker 1: for the car and all that through the insurance and
Speaker 1: all that good stuff.
Speaker 4: So they just they stripped that motherfucker on.
Speaker 5: We never got it back, y'all, never got the car.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: They ended up catch getting caught up.
Speaker 5: The young KB got caught up because he had a
Speaker 5: he was potting. This got greedy, you know, everybody was
Speaker 5: trying to salvage the things in the cars. It was
Speaker 5: eye watching there. They tried to slang the eye watch
Speaker 5: and got them caught up. They ended up doing time
Speaker 5: over some whole other ship unrelated to the car, and
Speaker 5: then they found the car. But they had already cast
Speaker 5: me out for the car. So they wasn't gonna give
Speaker 5: it back to me on you know, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know they cast you reflp.
Speaker 3: They gonna reflp.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They wanted to soth with that motherfucker.
Speaker 5: So so I felt like that cleared up the whole
Speaker 5: little slate. But it was just a trip. How I
Speaker 5: had had to go on my mind and just feel
Speaker 5: about it. I was like, man, now because I was
Speaker 5: looking on the camera at these motherfuckers how they't move
Speaker 5: it and getting down right, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, man, yeah, it's a whole different thing, you know.
Speaker 4: Like you said, it's usually big people behind that shit,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, these was kids, man, this was actually young.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you man that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Often to you, yeah, yeah, often to Earth for HERD fifteen. Hey,
Speaker 4: so you progressed on you got the cars going. Yeah,
Speaker 4: something about you strip me man, that you had that
Speaker 4: she was out there just in a little bit.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The ISM's always been in my body, you know. But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, you know that that just comes.
Speaker 5: Uh it's all just natural, just natural shit, man, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, charismatic shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I heard with older pe people. So I had older girlfriends,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. My girlfriends were really like
Speaker 5: from my class, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I might, like, you know, back.
Speaker 5: In the day, flirt around her, but those were mostly
Speaker 5: like my homegirls.
Speaker 1: My girls are older because I used to hang around
Speaker 1: doing older shit. You know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: I had a package in my hand.
Speaker 5: You know, I had a pound by fourth grade, you
Speaker 5: feel me, and was serving pounds of stress, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm talking about. Hanging with you know older hanging
Speaker 5: with that older crowd, you know, and hoop and playing basketball.
Speaker 5: Just had me around certain crewis I just knew, just
Speaker 5: ended up knowing a lot of motherfuckers through different weird
Speaker 5: little situations, you know what I'm saying. And I would
Speaker 5: always have something that would some weird shit that I
Speaker 5: shouldn't have had, like a whip, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: And like, damn what you got a whip for? Like
Speaker 5: you meet og Sky, you know Sky being an og
Speaker 5: around Dina for a long time.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I came with a nice whip with him. Like, man, hey,
Speaker 1: I heard you cash out for interiors. Man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so I'm sure that's a trip.
Speaker 5: Looking again, when you look at the youngster I'm looking
Speaker 5: at this youngster approaching me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the is this? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So, uh, it's just a trip, man, It's just the
Speaker 5: natural shit that just goes on you end up running
Speaker 5: into and meeting certain people. You know, and one of
Speaker 5: my homegirls was in the game real early.
Speaker 1: You feel me, so you know.
Speaker 5: I got a lot of introduction to that world, you know,
Speaker 5: from being around her.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 5: She could go out there manager now, she would be
Speaker 5: doing her thing, and you know this nigga will be
Speaker 5: whooping on her, you feel me, and the homegirls.
Speaker 1: Would be like, you know, Macca, you gotta you know
Speaker 1: telling this.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, cause I'm really you know, my
Speaker 5: lineage comes from it.
Speaker 1: You can go get the book, you.
Speaker 5: Know, check it out, Pimp Life Part one and two
Speaker 5: by Chicago Red You Feel Me on Amazon right now, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, and it talks about that little lineage of
Speaker 5: ship that just passed on from Chicago and all. You know, Chicago.
Speaker 5: The Mill West is different, man, how they hustle, you know.
Speaker 5: And I don't think out here in Cali even to
Speaker 5: this day, like they I'm sure there's some pickpocket motherfuckers,
Speaker 5: you know, Cat and Pig's.
Speaker 4: Like that's a big thing out here. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I mean now I couldn't speak on it. Uh. I
Speaker 3: think we had our little episodes with peak pocket and
Speaker 3: all that. But that would you know, that had to
Speaker 3: be probably in a different element, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: think it would have been no neighborhood type of scenarios
Speaker 3: or what it gotta be like, you know, some kind
Speaker 3: of like maybe you walking downtown in La or somewhere Hollywood,
Speaker 3: don't or some ship like that, you know, trying to
Speaker 3: pickpocket a nigga at the local nikash neighborhood. Exactly, you
Speaker 3: feel me.
Speaker 5: No, That's what I'm trying to say. Oh, it's like
Speaker 5: in the Midwest they got cruise. They was calling them cannons,
Speaker 5: you feel me. And so these cats would move like
Speaker 5: in cruise to Jack and the ain't yeah, like you said,
Speaker 5: ain't gonna just go to the liquor store, nigga. They
Speaker 5: gonna plan it out like we're gonna hit this event
Speaker 5: or that event.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I think I was in one of them cannons men
Speaker 4: when I was in Cleveland. We didn't call it that.
Speaker 4: Weeks all walking to like lost in some ship like
Speaker 4: that Rember Lost is Brian. It was like our seven eleven,
Speaker 4: we're walking that motherfucker eight of us. Nick just grab
Speaker 4: a thing and beat jerkys off the shelf. Another nigga
Speaker 4: might grab a case of beer and the chiff you
Speaker 4: just walk past the mother fucker like this. They make
Speaker 4: the look natures like this.
Speaker 5: That's that flash mob shit. That's that's flash mob shit
Speaker 5: I'm talking about. Like, like you got three people and
Speaker 5: you know, one catch job may be the you know,
Speaker 5: be talking to you.
Speaker 1: One cat's job maybe to do something else.
Speaker 4: You'll got a whole con going on.
Speaker 5: That's how they move, That's how they move. That's what
Speaker 5: I'm trying to say, that the hustles be different out there,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And so when you come
Speaker 5: from the parents of these cats, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: or the like my family, it was fourteen kids on
Speaker 5: my dad's side and twelve on my mom's side, you
Speaker 5: know what i mean. These ain't rich families, you know,
Speaker 5: these black families and these households. And it was because
Speaker 5: of the laws that these situations even existed. So you
Speaker 5: can't even blame your people. It was illegal to get abortions,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't until row versus
Speaker 5: way that you know, motherfuckers could even do shit like that,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And so if they chose
Speaker 5: to do something they have to go to an underground
Speaker 5: doctor who doing shit with a hangar and all type
Speaker 5: of weird shit.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Chicks nowadays they just go into seven eleven popa pill,
Speaker 5: you feel me. So it controls and therefore you know
Speaker 5: it's different. So back then, you had these families, all
Speaker 5: these big families, you know what I mean, starving and
Speaker 5: under one roof. You know you're gonna have some of
Speaker 5: the dudes doing some underhanded shit in the community.
Speaker 1: God damn it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And so in the Midwest, you got these cats doing
Speaker 5: all this shit. And I come from these big families,
Speaker 5: so it's certain shit to just pass down that is them.
Speaker 5: Was just definitely one of them things that was just
Speaker 5: passed down, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So you got the home girl out there living a
Speaker 4: fast life and they just gave you the wheels.
Speaker 5: Start turning your head now, now, man, I'm telling you,
Speaker 5: it was always we would we we were doing parties,
Speaker 5: you feel me. In high school, right, the crew, my
Speaker 5: crew was known for having trees.
Speaker 1: And throwing parties, you feel me.
Speaker 5: And I had a lot of respect in the community because,
Speaker 5: like I was saying out early on, I was doing
Speaker 5: all type of stuff and would half stuff for the
Speaker 5: older people. So when they would me, they were it
Speaker 5: was always like excitement. When older cats see me, they
Speaker 5: you know, they smiling ear to ear, like, man.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker is this natter, This motherfucker got woa whoa boy?
Speaker 1: This motherfucker. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And so when I come around, it's always love, you
Speaker 5: feel me, And uh, that love would go into these parties. Man,
Speaker 5: I'm throwing these parties, and I'd had these chicks at
Speaker 5: the parties and they would be jumping, man, and the
Speaker 5: girls that would want to come out to these parties,
Speaker 5: you feel me wanted to be like at the time, Uh,
Speaker 5: I'm battling with girls going wild?
Speaker 4: Right, Oh so you had so you putting them on video,
Speaker 4: can on all this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we live on the internet. You feel me going,
Speaker 1: I'm wired up?
Speaker 5: You feel me, uh, or we'll feel however we're doing
Speaker 5: at the parties wherever we was doing, we're known for
Speaker 5: throwing these little functions, and so we record them and
Speaker 5: then had a footage available online.
Speaker 1: I'm streaming it, you feel me, uh, And at that.
Speaker 5: Time it's like damn near impossible to stream. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: figure out the way these streams are right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I had encoders. I knew it's the same shit now
Speaker 5: that goes on. They just do it in the background
Speaker 5: so smooth. Don't know what's going on. They in code
Speaker 5: that everything's being encoded as it's happening. It's just so smooth.
Speaker 5: You don't have to have a separate encoder over here
Speaker 5: and running this over here. And you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: you ain't got to have all all these functions and
Speaker 5: boxes and transmitters and converters because it's just naturally shit.
Speaker 5: I could send you a video right now with us
Speaker 5: not even having no wires. Yeah, you feel me so uh,
Speaker 5: you know, to be able to deliver this back in
Speaker 5: the day was kind of, you know, a trip.
Speaker 1: You feel me?
Speaker 5: And I'm getting views and a lot of U traction,
Speaker 5: not even from local people, it's from people I don't.
Speaker 1: Even know, just out there in the cyber space.
Speaker 4: Feel these high school girls, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we in high school and some of them older.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a mix because I got I got older.
Speaker 1: Homegirls putting us in the middle. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because motherfucking uh, I don't get food. Your
Speaker 3: motherfuckers love some crazy content. Starting back from then, it
Speaker 3: wasn't even you, wasn't even considerate time to you.
Speaker 4: If you're a nigga in Texas somewhere or or motherfucking
Speaker 4: Minnesota and you're like, oh, they're having a party out there,
Speaker 4: and there's my chicks on there, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: they let the.
Speaker 1: Ship twerking and ship you had.
Speaker 4: The girl was like getting busy and dropping like it's
Speaker 4: hard and all that ship.
Speaker 1: It's just a regular party.
Speaker 5: But you know, you have your chicks to get a
Speaker 5: little wild and start twerking or some ship, you know
Speaker 5: what i mean, popping their cheeks and ship.
Speaker 4: So you're really out there competing against the girls.
Speaker 5: Going well, and when it comes down to volume and
Speaker 5: downloads and ship, you know what I'm saying. And so uh,
Speaker 5: but I'm not monetizing that.
Speaker 1: I'm just putting the ship out.
Speaker 4: I'm just doing it being a young nigga.
Speaker 1: Don't know what you're doing. You feel me, don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But it's just leading the different ship, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 1: One thing leads to the next, lead.
Speaker 4: To us talk about them That's what was the next face.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know.
Speaker 5: Uh so we're throwing parties, you know, we got shit
Speaker 5: rigged up, you know. Uh and uh so the homegirls
Speaker 5: getting whooped off right uh and they hollering me to
Speaker 5: go holler at you know, holler at this motherfucker. And
Speaker 5: I'm telling you can't. You know, she got to That's
Speaker 5: what she's fucking with, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: she basically getting in my ear like if we go
Speaker 5: down here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'll pay you you.
Speaker 5: Feel me, just make sure nobody you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: fox with me. And you know, being a little activated soul,
Speaker 5: I'm like, ain't nobody gonna do nothing, you know, blah blah,
Speaker 5: let's go, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So you know, uh, I don't even have a car.
Speaker 5: I'm paying the homeboy to take me down there, so
Speaker 5: it'd be like four of it. We packed in the car,
Speaker 5: you know, like we and I got her ask in
Speaker 5: the car. We all packed in this mouger rolling down
Speaker 5: walking in the back of the shit youngsters. Man, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Uh, And she already knew what
Speaker 5: to do. You know what I mean, she would tell
Speaker 5: we're going to Sunset and Western you know, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: Just let me off right here. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: What it do?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, I'm like, okay for Shure,
Speaker 5: And as all this is going on, I'm picking shit up,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: Just on the fly, naturally, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And so what happens is, you know, everybody rolling in
Speaker 5: a pack and his home. She knew he wasn't around
Speaker 5: on the blade, but uh, his folk, his peoples saw her,
Speaker 5: and when they see her, they were like, hey, what this.
Speaker 1: Is doing out here? And uh, you know, my nigga
Speaker 1: ain't out here.
Speaker 5: So they roll up on her and she trip and
Speaker 5: she called me and uh, I hop out on these
Speaker 5: cats and we started exchanging words and shit, you feel me,
Speaker 5: and I'm popping my shit, you feel me? And he's
Speaker 5: popping his shit. He looked like a little flip at
Speaker 5: the time, he popping his shit, you know. And I'm
Speaker 5: telling him, like, you know, you know, it's Macca for
Speaker 5: the record, you know what I'm saying this, and that
Speaker 5: I had a whole little theme song and all that
Speaker 5: good shit, and he's basically telling me to get my
Speaker 5: little square ass off the block, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Because I came out there with the church slacks with
Speaker 5: with the red Gator belt and a red silk shirt,
Speaker 5: you know, with the red Stacey Adam Gator shoes, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And these catches like can throwback
Speaker 5: jerseys with the chains on, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, looking like a little flip at the time,
Speaker 5: and shit, you know what I mean, like get your
Speaker 5: square ass off the blade man, you know, whoa whoa
Speaker 5: whoa man and this and that and I'm popping my shit,
Speaker 5: you know, whoo whooa. But again, like you know, uh,
Speaker 5: it's a car full of these motherfuckers. And uh, I
Speaker 5: guess whatever I said at the end, I don't really remember,
Speaker 5: but I remember making this nigga smile, you feel me?
Speaker 5: And so whatever our exchange was and how heated it
Speaker 5: was at first, and the bucket of this.
Speaker 1: And the bucket of that, you feel me.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I walked back to my my little Honda,
Speaker 5: you feel me, with my niggas.
Speaker 1: In there looking at like wolves and what to do.
Speaker 5: And uh, he drove off in his motherfucking expedition on
Speaker 5: big ass rims and.
Speaker 4: He probably just called his own way to.
Speaker 1: Right whatever he had to, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, uh, but officially I hadn't served no news,
Speaker 5: so it really was still his work, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And we was out there on some faulty pretenses, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So yeah, he could have pulled
Speaker 5: up and did whatever, you know what I mean. Uh,
Speaker 5: and he would have had the right to do that,
Speaker 5: you know, but we ended up playing that game for
Speaker 5: a while. We sneak out there, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: do our thing, you know, sneak back out there, and
Speaker 5: every time it just got me because it's when you
Speaker 5: go out there, it's real street. It ain't it's a blade,
Speaker 5: but it ain't like it's everything going on out that motherfucker,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Every motherfucking thing. It's dope
Speaker 5: real So this niggas trying to rob these motherfuckers taste, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's everything going on out there. Nigga is going down.
Speaker 1: It's and uh, it was wild back then.
Speaker 5: Were talking about sunset in two thousand and two or
Speaker 5: some shit like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 5: Were still letting everything go on in Hollywood Division District,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Uh, And it was all
Speaker 5: type of ship you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you hadn't so you just rolling with home girl.
Speaker 4: But you never served her no notice.
Speaker 5: No, not at that time, you feel me. It wasn't
Speaker 5: until after our our prim or some.
Speaker 1: Shit like that.
Speaker 4: So you're still this is all high school, the all
Speaker 4: high school led up to Oh for sure. Yeah, let's
Speaker 4: let's let's continue on.
Speaker 5: It's the lead up, you feel Yeah, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. She Uh, this is the people I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: And so uh by the time, you know, I get
Speaker 5: to like prome with it, you feel me.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: So I'm in the graphics academy at at the in
Speaker 5: my high school, you feel me. So they had the
Speaker 5: high school, then they had a separate academy in the back.
Speaker 1: They had a little focus or whatever, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And my my focus was graphics. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They teach you shit about the computer design, printing shit
Speaker 5: up on the big press, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: the whole nine and so it would go hand in hand.
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with these graphics.
Speaker 5: Doing this, this whole streaming shit, the party shits. I'm
Speaker 5: putting up my own flyers. You know, the whole nine Uh,
Speaker 5: the whole school know about our little crew, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I got shit on lockdown with these trees,
Speaker 5: you feel me. That's a whole nother.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a whole lot of things.
Speaker 5: I mean that went on and transpired, that led up,
Speaker 5: that all came together at the same time. That just
Speaker 5: made it like a boiling pot for shit to just happen. Man,
Speaker 5: when I came up off of this one lick and dinah,
Speaker 5: I ended up having the chronic now and then my
Speaker 5: plug there was my chronic plug was so vicious.
Speaker 1: It was an accident, but vicious accident. It was actually
Speaker 1: some white boys.
Speaker 5: I called them the f one fifty boys because these
Speaker 5: niggas were in high school. They had houses on riverside
Speaker 5: with no furniture in the motherfucker not real sand demons
Speaker 5: with no furniture.
Speaker 1: In the motherfuckers.
Speaker 5: And they'd be skateboarding coming down the steps, and shit,
Speaker 5: the mom would be outside watering plants. This nigga's bedroom
Speaker 5: would I mean Itah, his bedroom would be vicious with
Speaker 5: all types of iguanda tanks, and you know, bongs and
Speaker 5: shit for a kid that was like just blown away.
Speaker 1: Like these niggas just living like this.
Speaker 5: You know, it wasn't great living living. You know, they're
Speaker 5: probably renting the shit and doing all types of little
Speaker 5: crooked shit. And they dad's had the hydroponics growing in
Speaker 5: the house and all that they living in the trap basically,
Speaker 5: you feel me. And so he would have all this
Speaker 5: tree nigga, I mean exotic chronic. I'm talking about different options,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, you know, and I ain't.
Speaker 5: I never ran across nobody. They had it like that,
Speaker 5: old or young. They just had it, you know, so
Speaker 5: many varieties and my fingertips, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And so I would take I would get like a
Speaker 5: QP of this, a QP of that, and bring it
Speaker 5: back to the town and I shutting down.
Speaker 1: Shit.
Speaker 5: I'd have different prices for then I make my bags
Speaker 5: one point once and one point two.
Speaker 1: Back the time we had to little you know, to
Speaker 1: remember the little weed.
Speaker 5: Well, but yeah, come on little bagies and shit. You know,
Speaker 5: it would be damn there bustling, you feel me. And
Speaker 5: I had a little logo on my shit, and then
Speaker 5: we set it up where you know, because we had
Speaker 5: school police.
Speaker 1: And they hated me so bad. You feel me.
Speaker 5: Uh, the motherfucker was always harassing me, man, you feel me.
Speaker 5: And so motherfucker had to create a whole little system
Speaker 5: just to sell some goddamn weed in the motherfucker.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: We had to do it like the carters and shit.
Speaker 5: We had to put the little weed in this locker,
Speaker 5: in that locker. They would bring the dogs trying to
Speaker 5: sniff out the lockers.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: The whole shit again, that's just that energy, you see.
Speaker 5: It was an entrepreneurialship energy that the motherfucker had at
Speaker 5: all times that just wanted to like, oh, you're trying
Speaker 5: to give me, Well, I'm gonna do it like.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You always think of a work around, you know.
Speaker 1: So you would have to order the tree right here.
Speaker 1: We gave a cold word to cat up there.
Speaker 5: We get the thing, bring it down so they would
Speaker 5: never catch us with nothing on us, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. And they ended up suspending me. When they
Speaker 5: did finally give me, they came in the classroom back
Speaker 5: to at the graphics Academy with the dogs. I'm getting
Speaker 5: all type of text on the little two way at
Speaker 5: the time, the little flip way busy.
Speaker 1: They got the dogs on campus. They got the dogs
Speaker 1: on campus.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm like tripping, I don't I know. Me
Speaker 5: said bring the motherfuckers and showing up right to the classroom.
Speaker 5: They come in the classroom staring at me, and they
Speaker 5: tell the teacher.
Speaker 1: We need everybody to evacuate. We're going to do a
Speaker 1: random search of the classroom. While they're staring at me.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The teacher over here and shit, you know what i mean.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know what. Everybody whispering? Bad thing?
Speaker 5: You know, it was the reputation to your reputation means
Speaker 5: everything once they staying your reputation brouh. And it's important
Speaker 5: that young cash realize that it ain't cool trying to
Speaker 5: be cool. You feel me, You're real, you know, motherfucker
Speaker 5: trying to be cool and hold the reputation of being.
Speaker 1: Cool really ain't cool in the long run.
Speaker 5: You know, the adults that make decisions just talking about you.
Speaker 5: The kids are whispering about you to the dotes and
Speaker 5: behind the up.
Speaker 1: Hey they got a party. Oh, they do these type
Speaker 1: of things. It you know, we're whoop and all that type.
Speaker 3: Of shit, the loyalty is very low.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So, uh, you know that shit really wasn't cool because
Speaker 5: it was a bad thing. That reputation just did me
Speaker 5: no good as far as pushing me further monetarily or
Speaker 5: any opportunities or anything like that. And as matter of fact,
Speaker 5: a lot of the teachers, I won't say a lot,
Speaker 5: because it was a lot of teachers that had compassionate
Speaker 5: love for me still to this day. But if some
Speaker 5: of the it made some of the motherfucker's big time
Speaker 5: haters and you know.
Speaker 1: Haters their roll to this day. You feel me.
Speaker 5: So I say that to the youngsters to say, like,
Speaker 5: even if you are getting into shit, you know, keep
Speaker 5: your motherfucking shit cool till you get your mind calibrated.
Speaker 5: It's a non scientifical fact that, you know, male teens
Speaker 5: don't get their ship right today, damn their twenty something.
Speaker 3: It's really we don't mature at a slow pace.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it turns into stress if you can,
Speaker 5: if you could channel that ship right because just like you.
Speaker 3: Said, we get into a lot of mischievous shit as
Speaker 3: young men, and it seems like, you know, young ladies
Speaker 3: are a little more grounded when it comes to being
Speaker 3: mature wise, I don't. Yeah, that's not for everyone, but
Speaker 3: especially from from Like I say again, products of the environment.
Speaker 3: Man tend to have you in in situations where sedented disadvantage.
Speaker 3: You get me so and then you know, like I said,
Speaker 3: when we young, we just we like to do. I'm curious.
Speaker 3: I'm curious, especially as a young motherfucker trying to make
Speaker 3: a name for itself or be somebody. A lot of
Speaker 3: that curiosity is gonna catch your motherfucker.
Speaker 4: And this sounds like this leads you to go to jail.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I end up doing time over this ship.
Speaker 5: I'm wilding out, you know what I'm saying, because my
Speaker 5: energy is just I tried to channel.
Speaker 1: Let my bro and all.
Speaker 5: Them were able to move through school and stay focused
Speaker 5: through sports.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 5: My sports would always collide with this image and reputation.
Speaker 5: You feel me, because a lot of times I wasn't
Speaker 5: even doing nothing, but the reputation was so strong that
Speaker 5: you know, it was like it has to be this
Speaker 5: one fucker, right, it got to be a.
Speaker 4: You know, you developed that reputation, so you had a
Speaker 4: stigma around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it had a stigma. And then It also made
Speaker 5: me build an attitude of like, you know, I gotta
Speaker 5: get it done no matter what somebody saying, and fuck
Speaker 5: what they talking about, I'm anna win still. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: still win, you feel me. And so that's how I
Speaker 5: kind of pushed through. I started learning how to make
Speaker 5: money from all the shit I was doing, and it
Speaker 5: was kind of like game over, you know, once I
Speaker 5: got I graduated, you know what I mean. I graduated
Speaker 5: all types of little chains, you know, medallions and shit
Speaker 5: they give you when you get little honors.
Speaker 1: See, school was easy.
Speaker 5: If I wanted to, I could have got a four
Speaker 5: point h you know what I mean all throughout school.
Speaker 1: But I just never was at the motherfucker you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, the streets. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then uh so, uh they got this thing called
Speaker 5: the Golden State Exam right where they only picked like
Speaker 5: three cats out the school to go take this test.
Speaker 5: It's a math test, and uh it's one of my
Speaker 5: biggest regrets man, you know. So if you out there,
Speaker 5: mister Anderson, this for you, man. Uh, my man's was
Speaker 5: my math teacher, you know, Geometry, Advanced Math. I did
Speaker 5: TRIG just because I was I didn't have to take
Speaker 5: it no more.
Speaker 1: I just bored.
Speaker 5: He told me that any motherfucker who can pass my
Speaker 5: test and not come to class got this shit?
Speaker 1: Doawn you feel me?
Speaker 5: So he said, there's two people that should be ahead
Speaker 5: of you taking this motherfucker test. You know what I mean,
Speaker 5: like based on the GPA and shit. But I want
Speaker 5: to nominate you to take the motherfucking tests, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, so that you could try to bring
Speaker 5: home this award. He was like, Man, if you get this,
Speaker 5: he said, it's a guarantee shoe into any college you want.
Speaker 5: But you believe the day of the test, this nigga
Speaker 5: didn't go.
Speaker 4: He didn't go.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to the goddamn test.
Speaker 3: Man, you didn't go.
Speaker 4: Blah blah. I forgot all about the motherfucker man, and
Speaker 4: she was thinking about mother shit some.
Speaker 1: Whole other ship.
Speaker 4: Man. He was mad, the motherfucker was.
Speaker 1: He was disappointed in it. He wasn't mad. He was
Speaker 1: just like the wind was knocked.
Speaker 4: Out of niggas he knew. He said, Man, this nigga
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 5: He was, yeah, he was, eyes were big as fuck.
Speaker 5: Why do you think you did? I said, I should
Speaker 5: just lied to the nigga.
Speaker 1: And just like, man, I think I did great.
Speaker 4: Saying.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I totally forgot mistakee. He was like, no,
Speaker 1: what I said?
Speaker 4: Oh man, if you'd have won that, that could have
Speaker 4: possibly changed your whole trajectory.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 5: He was so confident in it. He wasn't even warming
Speaker 5: me up.
Speaker 4: So you just naturally take it. I don't even know
Speaker 4: if I did, I take tricker knowledgey, I might have
Speaker 4: had somebody else do that shit for me.
Speaker 3: That nigga said that I have somebody to do it.
Speaker 3: You get through this whole phase. You went to high school. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get to the part. So you figured
Speaker 3: out how to make money and.
Speaker 1: Everything, right, Yeah, I figured out I to make that.
Speaker 4: You're making money from the streaming shit now?
Speaker 5: Yeah, for making money from the downloads, making money off
Speaker 5: of e ros. I got a gang little bitches. You
Speaker 5: feel me, uh, every little chick. So once I figure
Speaker 5: out the little system.
Speaker 1: My mind just goes.
Speaker 5: I go crazy, like it just locks in like a
Speaker 5: missile and anything that comes in is either going over
Speaker 5: here or I don't want to talk to it. You
Speaker 5: feel me either going over here, I don't want to
Speaker 5: talk to it. You know what I'm saying, we either
Speaker 5: doing this. I don't even want to talk. You don't
Speaker 5: need to you don't even need to know me.
Speaker 1: We don't even need to conversate, So.
Speaker 4: Get sent.
Speaker 1: It got so bad. I wouldn't even talk to dudes
Speaker 1: if you weren't in the game.
Speaker 5: I don't even need to talk to you because you
Speaker 5: so scol nigga, you just gonna be gonna You're just
Speaker 5: too square for me to hang out with.
Speaker 1: Nigga, I gotta get this here.
Speaker 5: I gotta get to this over here. I don't really
Speaker 5: have no time to even be over here. I gotta
Speaker 5: get to this over here. You feel me, So when
Speaker 5: I would come out, it'd be like out of a cocoon.
Speaker 5: I just emerged, you know, out of after so long
Speaker 5: of just pushing, you know, foot to the pedal.
Speaker 1: And mind you, this wasn't a long time.
Speaker 5: That this isn't occurs before I get cracked off too.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just that so much was happening during
Speaker 5: high school that it just blended.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's just so much shit that just happened.
Speaker 5: It felt like this one blend. But when you look
Speaker 5: at the transcripts and the timelines and shit, they got
Speaker 5: it all wrong. It's the whole case was all messed up, bro,
Speaker 5: it was. It was a nightmare. Everybody lied and I'm
Speaker 5: talking about the people involved, police and all that shit.
Speaker 5: You feel me, got all jumbled up just so they
Speaker 5: could create something. You know what I am definitely always
Speaker 5: remorse about when I look back at all this shit
Speaker 5: is that we really could have. You know, all this
Speaker 5: shit impacted lives.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We Uh, it was so much shit that happened, Bro,
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, it was just so much shit that
Speaker 5: happened just from us being out there.
Speaker 1: Uh. You know I've had homegirls get attacked.
Speaker 4: You feel me.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I've had to defend shit and do shit.
Speaker 5: But that don't take away from what they have to
Speaker 5: go through, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: So I'm always remorseful for the shit like being involved,
Speaker 5: like I've lost homies, uh Wild One missions or whatever.
Speaker 5: I always feel bad that, you know, even though we
Speaker 5: were all in agreeance to go on the mission.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 5: The fact that you lose somebody always kind of fuck
Speaker 5: with your head, you feel me, So, you know, let.
Speaker 4: Me ask you this. Another thing is a misconception. Man,
Speaker 4: when you talk about temping. Man, you out there with
Speaker 4: them brads every day and they bring you some good money,
Speaker 4: you got to have some kind of then you've got
Speaker 4: to care bottom to a certain extent, or you didn't
Speaker 4: give a fuck up.
Speaker 5: Now, it's not that, it's just that the game dictates
Speaker 5: that that bitch is gonna be playing games.
Speaker 1: Exactly or you know, you can't.
Speaker 5: You know, she on bullshit, So it'd take a while
Speaker 5: before you can even trust that she ain't on bullshit
Speaker 5: for you to give a fuck. You feel me, and
Speaker 5: usually that shit don't even last that long for you know,
Speaker 5: it's the numbers game. You're going through some shit. You
Speaker 5: might get a sixty day run, ninety day run, you know,
Speaker 5: a year run is like unheard of. You feel me
Speaker 5: two years, you know, shit that starts to be your bitch.
Speaker 4: So these girls, it's just like a lot of high turnover,
Speaker 4: a lot of trends in activity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for most of the part, you know, because uh,
Speaker 5: whatever has led them to this path. You know, they
Speaker 5: nature is to be wild and to you know, it's.
Speaker 1: A crazy lifestyle.
Speaker 5: You know, when you're really talking about people that are
Speaker 5: game related and really in the game you feel me.
Speaker 5: They know she got the choice to bounce it anytime
Speaker 5: you feel me.
Speaker 1: She could choose this.
Speaker 5: Nigga walking around here to get away from you. So
Speaker 5: it ain't like she's stuck, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: That just could say uh you know, or even open
Speaker 5: the door any niggas ready to rescue her at.
Speaker 1: Any time, any trick you feel me. Uh So, bitch
Speaker 1: got options.
Speaker 4: So you had some brawls lead you because the trick
Speaker 4: said I'm in love with you, baby, and I want
Speaker 4: to marry you.
Speaker 1: I ain't never that happened to me, but I know
Speaker 1: if niggas has happened too, you know, So don't be square.
Speaker 4: Niggas is come here.
Speaker 3: You just be pulling about your hat. Don't you still
Speaker 3: that she wanted to bury you and the love that
Speaker 3: type of ship? Absolutely absolutely and just saw that movie
Speaker 3: and probably start thinking, I hope I meet me a
Speaker 3: rich motherfucker one day.
Speaker 1: These niggas are on. Are you listening to the music.
Speaker 4: Now that Oh yes, a lot of simple going on and.
Speaker 5: He's no simping. They're literally tricking. The's telling you, nigga, uh, nigga,
Speaker 5: I pay all these niggas to athletes. Everybody advertise it
Speaker 5: to the bitches. No, these songs be advertisements to the
Speaker 5: whole communit like.
Speaker 3: I'll pay you yeah where their fuck it, I will
Speaker 3: pay you whatever just for a piece of ass, the
Speaker 3: walker on the side of a nigg just to say
Speaker 3: that I got the fuck with you too. Yeah, I'll pass.
Speaker 1: I never will be.
Speaker 4: And that will be. I think the game just evolves.
Speaker 1: Nah, I mean it's the same shit man. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody still gotta go to work.
Speaker 3: Somebody ain't involved from the simp. That's that ain't happening.
Speaker 3: It's just that we got a gang of niggas who
Speaker 3: feel like I'm gonna beat you to it, so I'm
Speaker 3: gonna just toss it out there. It ain't those of
Speaker 3: the yester year of a nigga who can really got
Speaker 3: the gift of gap with that wordplay is the difference
Speaker 3: than a nigga who go, nigga, I'm a big celebrity. Here,
Speaker 3: take this hundred thousand, go buy you a purse, some
Speaker 3: titties and ass and a new.
Speaker 1: Pair of shoes, and yeah, man, you got.
Speaker 3: They make it simple. They they make it they they
Speaker 3: are so simple that they make it hard for the
Speaker 3: for a real motherfucking nigga on just that aspect, because
Speaker 3: what female, you don't want that.
Speaker 5: No way though, Like when you're ready to settle down,
Speaker 5: you don't want that bitch, no way.
Speaker 1: No, that ain't the bitch you want.
Speaker 3: And then a lot of motherfuckers don't understand that once
Speaker 3: you get that title of ran through and then you
Speaker 3: look up and you like, you know forty, you know,
Speaker 3: you done been around the block a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Now you want a nigga to come along and be
Speaker 3: straight and real, And then it's all, damn, wasn't wasn't
Speaker 3: he paying for it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And wasn't he paying for it? Didn't I see you
Speaker 3: at court side with him? It didn't I see you
Speaker 3: riding the roads with him.
Speaker 4: I don't think people give you know what?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: That bushy good ENOUGH'TI fu?
Speaker 4: I'm gone you this when I saw Kanye Mary Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 4: I see it. This niggas about to marry this bro?
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen when you have kids? And she looks back,
Speaker 4: Not that I judge. You know, people do what they
Speaker 4: want to do, but we it's not exactly like it's
Speaker 4: the fucking sixties. What moms could have did something that
Speaker 4: a nigga and never seen it.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Do you realize if she
Speaker 5: didn't do what she did, she wouldn't be where she
Speaker 5: at right now. That shit catapulted her motherfucking shit that
Speaker 5: I don't know any other moves, not say she wouldn't
Speaker 5: have made it or wouldn't have been famous, or but
Speaker 5: that shit catapulted her and her family to a place
Speaker 5: and it was managed. The energy of that shit was
Speaker 5: managed very well by her mama into being something that
Speaker 5: developed into a big time, billion dollar, multi billion dollar brand.
Speaker 4: So her lawn ray Jed not.
Speaker 1: Just blowing them.
Speaker 5: They recorded it, and I just recorded it. They did
Speaker 5: it at a time where she was a socially with
Speaker 5: old girl and ray J was had a sizeable name,
Speaker 5: and they got a deal with Vivid.
Speaker 1: That deal got.
Speaker 5: Them paid and kept their name popping and motherfucking the press,
Speaker 5: and with that energy they kept going, I ain't check
Speaker 5: this out.
Speaker 4: The play they ran is the play they ran.
Speaker 5: Like you said, we're trying to get a distribution deal
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 1: I would love VH.
Speaker 5: Wanting to give a come up in this motherfucker talking
Speaker 5: about a deal. So who what bitch, gotta do what
Speaker 5: so that that can happen.
Speaker 3: She made a whole bunch of paper. But what happens
Speaker 3: when little North get bigger? Nobody cared, Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Speaker 3: You're going to backwards route, and don't nobody care about
Speaker 3: that ship. Nobody's gonna give a fuck of what she did.
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna give a fuck. But who ain't fucking and sucking?
Speaker 3: You got a regular bitch right now, fucking and sucking
Speaker 3: right now on tape nothing, stop playing. You got it.
Speaker 3: You got regular motherfuckers fucking and sucking for nothing. So
Speaker 3: always have what what what? Somebody's gonna be like she
Speaker 3: and you didn't know that, right, So you late, l attitude,
Speaker 3: My attitude gonna be like nigga, my mama worth a
Speaker 3: billion dollars. Right, You're late, You're late. You want to break,
Speaker 3: you want to bring up somebody had their mouth around
Speaker 3: somebody's balls, motherfucker. If you don't, if you don't look
Speaker 3: at my motherfucking crib outside and what I ride in
Speaker 3: and who my dad is and who WoT they want?
Speaker 3: I could give her care less about who sucked who
Speaker 3: or what video happened? Fifteen twenty years ago.
Speaker 5: But look how tactical it was right after that.
Speaker 1: Who is it, uh nigga that read Reggie Bush?
Speaker 5: Yeah, then when Reggie after Reggie was hot for that year,
Speaker 5: then after that went to uh you go the next man.
Speaker 3: I don't even follow the story, the story of it's
Speaker 3: the natural pastime. It's the natural pastime like baseball and
Speaker 3: hot dogs and apple pie. Nigga.
Speaker 4: Hey, it was the first producer that was producing. I
Speaker 4: think he'd producing some stuff with Tupac, the first cat
Speaker 4: that Kim was with. She was with her. She was
Speaker 4: with the Scotts Shooter, not a Scotts.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 4: His name was miss it was missing with Scott's thrash,
Speaker 4: but it was a It was a producer. I forget
Speaker 4: his name, but she was messed with him because they
Speaker 4: used to go to swing clubs together. A lot of
Speaker 4: people used to know that, like Kim King was a swinging.
Speaker 3: I don't know nothing about what yeah, yeah you be
Speaker 3: you know about you bed in the Hollywood parties and
Speaker 3: ship knowing all that crazy ship. I was a nigga
Speaker 3: sitting up at the house in the back eye drinking
Speaker 3: drinking a pie that j with the hoby h You
Speaker 3: was up at the parties doing always gotta ride with
Speaker 3: the motherfucking uh each elevator elevation from the elevation.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to.
Speaker 3: The odds wide shut type of ship, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Yeah, so she didn't care. She was gonna
Speaker 3: do whatever she had to do it. Her mama's a pimp.
Speaker 5: Too, That's what I'm trying to say. It's all about
Speaker 5: how you want to phrase it. If they want to
Speaker 5: call you a pimp, it's a derogatory term.
Speaker 1: Man. You know, call me no pimp, not a pimp.
Speaker 5: I don't even think I ever was a We're gonna
Speaker 5: say that Macca was a businessman that made bad moral
Speaker 5: decisions and you know, reformed his thought process and goals doing.
Speaker 4: Some incredible stuff. Now, So for sure, I'm gonna try
Speaker 4: to I'm fast forward a little bit, man, So you
Speaker 4: wind up pretty much being a gentleman of leisure and
Speaker 4: a promoter.
Speaker 5: Yep, a big promoter. I was just promoting the technology.
Speaker 5: I was messing with the technology, and I had a
Speaker 5: lot of homegirls that I knew that were doing exotic dancing, stripping.
Speaker 5: They were escorting, and I would try to blend those
Speaker 5: worlds together, you feel me. They told me my only
Speaker 5: crime was having young bitches in the video. So those
Speaker 5: were my homegirls from high school. They were in the video.
Speaker 4: So they went back and they got you from the
Speaker 4: early stuff when you was doing when you was a
Speaker 4: high school.
Speaker 3: Dude, yourself exactly.
Speaker 4: You was just really just taping your peers. You wasn't
Speaker 4: thinking the bout I don't hit released first. She's not
Speaker 4: over eighteen, yeah, and I didn't.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even didn't have released for anybody, no paperwork
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 4: So they had an idea you was doing all the
Speaker 4: other shit, but they chose just take the most minute
Speaker 4: shit and just really just say, okay, we go get
Speaker 4: them with this.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they took to they actually I had like
Speaker 5: two hundred counts and they took it from uh.
Speaker 1: One one tape.
Speaker 5: It was actually from just one scene where two chicks
Speaker 5: are hitting each other with a deal though, you feel me.
Speaker 5: And so each frame, you know, video is comprised of
Speaker 5: multiple frames, forty frames or secondary you know, so each
Speaker 5: frame was considered a count to carry like six months,
Speaker 5: and so the match was six months onto my flane.
Speaker 5: But it was so many goddamn counts.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, man. Now the girls don't they ain't anonymous
Speaker 4: no more. They tried to call them the court and ship.
Speaker 1: Oh they did all that shit. Boy, we did it.
Speaker 4: Their parents just sit up there, probably never knew about
Speaker 4: the ship. Now, they like.
Speaker 3: Got exactly.
Speaker 5: To those right, and that's what had everybody making their
Speaker 5: stories extra, you know what I mean? But uh, you
Speaker 5: feel me. It was a learning experience, bro, I had
Speaker 5: to go through that ship. I wouldn't have been I
Speaker 5: don't see any other way that I would have came
Speaker 5: out or got.
Speaker 1: To this point.
Speaker 5: I'm sure there was some way it could have happened,
Speaker 5: but I couldn't see it where. You know, I was
Speaker 5: able to control and harness, you know, learn about meditation,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, get spiritually inclined, Uh, gain
Speaker 5: myself up about the world, just reading a bunch of
Speaker 5: historical books, all that.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 5: I just really went in depth. Feed my brain. You
Speaker 5: feel me, because you couldn't do anything right. So I
Speaker 5: still had that energy coming in me, and I had
Speaker 5: these walls containing me, so I had to pour it
Speaker 5: out in a different way than that was happening through you.
Speaker 4: Most of your time.
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to man that energy was
Speaker 1: still there. So I created programs in there called many
Speaker 1: Change where you know, we ran through this whole step.
Speaker 1: My cousin, uh crime, he was with me.
Speaker 5: It was my cousin as well, uh some cats from
Speaker 5: Dean and they were locked up with me. We came
Speaker 5: together and made this uh this program called men a
Speaker 5: Change where it was a business program. We taught you marketing,
Speaker 5: We taught you uh business uh entities and uh we
Speaker 5: taught you uh like the basic laws like employee employment law,
Speaker 5: HR law and uh you come up you'd write your
Speaker 5: whole business plan. Was the final step in this program,
Speaker 5: you feel me, and it taught cats how to take
Speaker 5: they uh that they hustle mentality and converted into some
Speaker 5: type of business ideas.
Speaker 1: So everybody had to have.
Speaker 5: A business move that they were gonna pull on the
Speaker 5: streets you feel me with limited resources and all that,
Speaker 5: and then we comprise the whole thing and the second part.
Speaker 5: If they made it to the second stage, we had
Speaker 5: this program where it was called mean Jeans and everybody
Speaker 5: got handed a business in this fake monopoly community and
Speaker 5: you did business.
Speaker 1: So you learned about how to.
Speaker 5: Keep your check your check book, balance ledgers, you know,
Speaker 5: putting out orders and you know.
Speaker 1: And shit like that. Oh my crew, you feel me,
Speaker 1: But yet that's how my mind works. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say.
Speaker 5: You know, it just got to come out someway and
Speaker 5: I was just structuring shit to try to give it
Speaker 5: out to cats, and so.
Speaker 1: That came out.
Speaker 5: That's how we ended up getting those rehabilitation homes. When uh,
Speaker 5: we get released, man, everything just started being flooded. I said, well,
Speaker 5: the bread is right here. You know, the government wants
Speaker 5: to give you money to handle these things they need
Speaker 5: handled in the community.
Speaker 1: So I structured a lot of my thoughts and patterns
Speaker 1: over just trying to get that game out to cats.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Uh credit, you know, trying to give casts the game
Speaker 1: on credit.
Speaker 5: You feel me. A lot of us just behind time
Speaker 5: on that education. But if it was fed to us earlier,
Speaker 5: we'd be more skilled with it.
Speaker 1: It's not rocket fucking sry.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 4: You put together crazy stuff. Tell me you put together
Speaker 4: even the new means of financial distribution and moving money around.
Speaker 4: You were luckedant career.
Speaker 1: Now that was when I got out.
Speaker 5: So while I was locked up, but I ended up
Speaker 5: doing a publishing company. A lot of cats had these
Speaker 5: crazy stories. So I was My girl was going to
Speaker 5: law school at the time, so we would talk a
Speaker 5: lot of law, you know, on the phone. We would
Speaker 5: talk a lot of shit. I'm learning shit, she's going
Speaker 5: learning shit. So we just sharpening each other up, iron
Speaker 5: sharpening iron, you know. And I was like, well, you
Speaker 5: should send me in a contract, the basic contract that
Speaker 5: gives me they movie release rights, the TV movie, this, this,
Speaker 5: and that, you know. And so these cats would sign
Speaker 5: these contracts and release their rights to me. And I
Speaker 5: didn't have nothing. I just knew the story, but I'd
Speaker 5: had them release their rights to me.
Speaker 1: You feel me? Then I stayed. I was like, fuck it.
Speaker 5: Most of these dudes had handwritten novels. And we were
Speaker 5: going back behind the wall, uh, doing like computer classes,
Speaker 5: typing and shit. So I'm talking to the teachers and popping.
Speaker 1: To them like would it be alrights?
Speaker 5: The guys are in here type and these manuals up
Speaker 5: digitizing these handwritten books. These motherfuckers would handwrite these novels,
Speaker 5: you feel me. So I'm digitizing all these stories and
Speaker 5: I got all these books, and then I end up running.
Speaker 1: Into being free. Who got a podcast? Now? At the coin.
Speaker 5: Ben was a editor from Mattel White Boy, and I'm like, uh,
Speaker 5: he heard about me pub We published my cousin's book,
Speaker 5: Pimp Life. You feel me from the joint, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? They had presses and shit. I was
Speaker 5: in graphics with the presses, so I knew how to
Speaker 5: do all this shit, which put me in these positions.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you gotta really look at the divinity behind shit,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, to realize that. You know,
Speaker 5: you think you bump in your head, but you was
Speaker 5: meant to bump your head. You feel me, you just
Speaker 5: can't be scared to take to you know, travel, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, cause I feel I'm like, uh,
Speaker 5: I know now, I don't even feel now.
Speaker 1: You learn that when you get connected with your.
Speaker 5: Spirituality, Like a nigga wasn't just uh ah called the
Speaker 5: nigga was chosen right, and uh you heard these blockages
Speaker 5: like like the Lord could hearten the Pharaoh's heart.
Speaker 4: Mm.
Speaker 5: So you're telling me he didn't want them to get released.
Speaker 5: They had to go do that, right, They had time
Speaker 5: he wanted them to do so when he softened, they
Speaker 5: hardly just released them motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: So some shit makes more sense now. While this officer
Speaker 5: was tripping on me, why this was happening, why I
Speaker 5: had to go through there or whatever.
Speaker 1: Or dained to happen.
Speaker 5: I had these hoop skills that weren't being translated on
Speaker 5: the court, but in the joint, them hoop skills. Boy
Speaker 5: had me get in favor with niggas because they wanted
Speaker 5: me the hoop or be on their squad or whatever
Speaker 5: you feel me, and so all of that shit.
Speaker 1: Man, So you.
Speaker 4: Actually wound up publishing. He published your cousin's book, and
Speaker 4: they wound.
Speaker 1: Up actually selling units.
Speaker 5: We've got to They have a prison catalog called Walking
Speaker 5: Horse and some other shit like access all that. We
Speaker 5: end up printing up these books back there, getting Walking
Speaker 5: Horse to accept the order of like five thousand books.
Speaker 5: We get cashed out for these books. The cats and
Speaker 5: the joints hearing aboudy we sending out mailers. They're buying
Speaker 5: the books. We sending the books to these niggas in
Speaker 5: the joint. Uh you know, I think we we was
Speaker 5: clearing some bread, you feel me? And uh so people
Speaker 5: are hearing about and they want us to do the
Speaker 5: same for their books. So I got I'm getting the
Speaker 5: rights for all these books, and I end up paroling
Speaker 5: with these books, and I published the Gang a little
Speaker 5: books running.
Speaker 1: You know they on Amazon right now, you feel me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And uh, just doing that hustling, I saw the power
Speaker 5: to penitentiary, reached back into pen you know, made my
Speaker 5: money through convict assistant. Then that the thing you talking about.
Speaker 5: When La County Jail had shut down accepting payments from
Speaker 5: payments from inmates families, there was no way to put
Speaker 5: money on the books unless they physically went down there
Speaker 5: to the jail.
Speaker 4: A lot of people can't even get the ejail.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. So I started up a service where you know,
Speaker 5: you put the payments. I mean, we take the money
Speaker 5: down there, putting on their books. You feel me?
Speaker 1: Uh? As shit was killing that. Uh.
Speaker 5: That led to me getting to the trucking business because
Speaker 5: the money running through those accounts.
Speaker 1: Although I wasn't getting a lot of profit off of.
Speaker 5: It, the gross you know what I mean, they may
Speaker 5: put two hundred dollars on the dude's account, I'm only
Speaker 5: getting ten dollars of that. But the fact that I
Speaker 5: got this boat running through these accounts, I started getting deals,
Speaker 5: credit lines and loans and shit for merchants merchant accounts.
Speaker 5: So I passed that game on the cats about running
Speaker 5: money through your account so that you can know, be
Speaker 5: able to get these loans for equipment and shit, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And then it's up to you
Speaker 5: to make that equipment make money for you, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. So we went and got the box trucks.
Speaker 5: We were doing the on track deliveries with the box trucks.
Speaker 5: When the box trucks will get worn down and beat up,
Speaker 5: we'd wrap them and turn them into advertisement, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. You know, just one thing just kept
Speaker 5: leading to another, and so that energy from way back
Speaker 5: in the past being wild and all that shit got
Speaker 5: focused and honed inn in the prison and now I
Speaker 5: just you know, focused that shit in just different directions, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean. You know, it's crazy. Many history
Speaker 4: sound like a damn movie.
Speaker 3: Theyre definitely there's a good inspiration for you know, niggas
Speaker 3: who do uh you know, who go through hard times
Speaker 3: and go through wrong choices, Like I said, a lot
Speaker 3: of us, do you know. I was fortunate to start
Speaker 3: writing songs and doing ship and you know, taking that route. Uh,
Speaker 3: some dudes go to sports route. You know, some dudes
Speaker 3: have that brain to where they can come up with
Speaker 3: technology and ship like that. So it just goes to
Speaker 3: show that you can't underestimate. Uh the book by its
Speaker 3: cover of phrase nobody out.
Speaker 4: Then on top of that, man, you got a whole
Speaker 4: assistant living piece for the inmates. I know you want
Speaker 4: to shoutut at Homie go mac y'all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, we be doing this thing. It's like twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5: My wife and myself we started up this this nonprofit
Speaker 5: called Victory Starts Now, and the main focus was, excuse me,
Speaker 5: give cats housing when they get out the joint, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Uh, Because I knew a lot of cats they.
Speaker 5: Were going to these sober living spots, and these sober
Speaker 5: living spots were terrible conditions. I mean it was dusty,
Speaker 5: holy couches outside that they were sitting on, just rough.
Speaker 5: They were taking their EBT money, you know, to do
Speaker 5: the you know, so it was just a lot of
Speaker 5: that type of stuff. I was able to find a
Speaker 5: program I forget that shit was called I think it
Speaker 5: was the Pilot program back then with the certain office,
Speaker 5: and they would give cats vouchers for their room for
Speaker 5: their housing.
Speaker 1: So I would have them.
Speaker 5: Cats sign up, get that voucher and put them in
Speaker 5: a room, you know what I mean, and they'd pay
Speaker 5: for those little rooms. At the time, it was only
Speaker 5: like three bands of month.
Speaker 1: To get one of those little duplexes in the hood,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Uh, that shit didn't went up to like seven bands now.
Speaker 1: But uh, you're giving them.
Speaker 5: Little spots and I would just had them cats, you know,
Speaker 5: functioning in there. But I took it serious, like how
Speaker 5: I wanted them to run. I wanted them to program.
Speaker 5: I wanted the staff to wear uniforms.
Speaker 3: You feel me.
Speaker 5: My wife's always been compassionate about you know, uh the
Speaker 5: impact of community.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: And so you know, she's always was down there helping
Speaker 5: doing every you know, anything and everything she could, you know,
Speaker 5: putting her her expertise and touch the shit, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And one day it just you know,
Speaker 5: took off where my fuck got a contract man, and
Speaker 5: uh just blew up. And each contract we just had
Speaker 5: to keep raising the bar as to what we had
Speaker 5: to provide man, nurses, clinicians, all that shit, man. And
Speaker 5: so we give back, giving food to the community, making
Speaker 5: sure cats got housing, you know, and all that this shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You're also a very creative cap man. You know you
Speaker 4: do some game shows, movies, series like you got some
Speaker 4: incredible stuff, dude, like you got you probably, Man, I
Speaker 4: can't really get along with everybody an everybody because I'm
Speaker 4: a real creative dude. I don't think people know I
Speaker 4: got like shows on the internet now, like I do
Speaker 4: a lot of shit. My mind is always because also
Speaker 4: I understand, you know, we weird motherfuckers. We wired a
Speaker 4: little different, right right, you know we're wired a little different.
Speaker 3: It's a little different, yeah, man, And that's what's saunderstand.
Speaker 4: And you know we're right here now on the coin Academy. Man,
Speaker 4: it's a home. It's an incredible place. When did you
Speaker 4: build When did you get this built?
Speaker 1: About four years ago? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Or yet twenty night me and five now ship yeah
Speaker 5: five years well five?
Speaker 4: And I don't see you do everything here from having
Speaker 4: credible like just everything he do is fly Like I
Speaker 4: remember you wasn't at you with you here when we
Speaker 4: first got to deal with Black Effect. You got us
Speaker 4: about the age of speed. I was like.
Speaker 1: Champagne shout out to Jigger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, be Champagne. I ever had, Man, just incredible things. Man,
Speaker 4: You ever look back on your life and you like, Man, thank.
Speaker 5: You God all the time. Man, all praise to the
Speaker 5: most high, you know. Uh, it's definitely divine. And so
Speaker 5: I already know that I have to keep doing the
Speaker 5: bigger purpose of things. You know, it ain't It ain't
Speaker 5: never about the bread for me. You know, that's just
Speaker 5: like a byproduct the ship, you know, or you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes it's a little a little yard stick, let you know,
Speaker 5: how you how you progress or what have you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Uh, but it ain't never about that, man. It's about
Speaker 5: really I feel I really don't even feel accomplished, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm talking about, Like I got it. There's
Speaker 5: so much that we got to do for me to
Speaker 5: feel like we really got some a win or something,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we got a building, you know, we
Speaker 1: got some shows you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: That we're working on. But we need the contract, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And that's where the money comes in.
Speaker 5: It's a measuring stick like Okay, yeah this program is
Speaker 5: now funded doing it this or you know, we got
Speaker 5: this sponsorship or what have you. So you know, we
Speaker 5: still got work to do, connecting the dots, connecting with
Speaker 5: the right people. You know, it's just never, never feels done.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: And again this is about reaching out to those young
Speaker 5: those young souls, alternate ego us trying to get to
Speaker 5: them as quick as we can, to as many as
Speaker 5: we can, you feel me, so we could direct the
Speaker 5: energy because we really as a people are impacted differently too.
Speaker 5: Like I was saying about those laws early on, you know,
Speaker 5: they still affect us differently than every other segment in
Speaker 5: the goddamn population.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these so traconian laws, man, they got out here. Man,
Speaker 4: it's just it's real ill man.
Speaker 3: And you wonder how Like I.
Speaker 4: Was looking at watch the stuff about the presidential race,
Speaker 4: and I was really thinking, I said, Man, don't lend
Speaker 4: them motherfuckers give a fuck about us, not near one
Speaker 4: of them. It's hard, bro.
Speaker 5: The history of us is cargo. Man created cargo. It's
Speaker 5: hard for a motherfucker to look at you as something
Speaker 5: different when they've been when they great great dad and
Speaker 5: daddies and everybody else been trained to think of you
Speaker 5: a certain way. You feel me, and you have no
Speaker 5: other country. You feel me. Mexican come over here. He
Speaker 5: got Mexico as his home base. That's still always gonna
Speaker 5: give pride.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he know it's heretics.
Speaker 4: He knows it's lenear. We don't know ours.
Speaker 5: It ain't even about linear, It's just about the political
Speaker 5: power that a motherfucker has right now. You know that
Speaker 5: motherfucker can have somebody speak on their behalf or you know,
Speaker 5: talk on their behalf.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 5: You can't run back nowhere, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You can't say I'm done with this motherfucker, I'm gone.
Speaker 1: I mean, we actually do.
Speaker 5: They told us we could come back to Libya and Ghana,
Speaker 5: They told us to come home.
Speaker 4: You really want to go back to fucking Liberia of
Speaker 4: some fucking work.
Speaker 1: That's what we gotta get out.
Speaker 5: This mindset we're in, programmed just to be scared of it,
Speaker 5: you feel me. That's the whole point of what I'm
Speaker 5: trying to say. We gotta, uh, we gotta change the
Speaker 5: way we look at it so that we could make
Speaker 5: it have a different impact, cause otherwise you just sitting here.
Speaker 5: The tax laws, you know, they got tax laws for
Speaker 5: every single country, got a treaty, a tax treaty.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Uh, or a reason, a grant or something. They give
Speaker 5: a certain population of people because they feel they impacted
Speaker 5: them a certain way. Indians could get the Native Americans
Speaker 5: to get a portion land. That's saying that's a good
Speaker 5: they did something great for them, but they will give
Speaker 5: them land.
Speaker 4: We don't get nothing.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about a uh uh, who do we blow up?
Speaker 5: Japanese come over here, they get certain, Chinese, they get certain.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: We ain't getting nothing.
Speaker 5: Cause nigga, they just they think you cargo.
Speaker 4: You ain't.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. We ain't got no
Speaker 1: country to represent.
Speaker 5: It's no political power otherwhere that represents you as a
Speaker 5: black man. Basically, they are the only motherfucking political power
Speaker 5: that may any notion or reference for us.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. That shit's crazy.
Speaker 5: And so they didn't come over here and write the
Speaker 5: Bill of Rights for us. They were talking about us
Speaker 5: like cargo from the beginning.
Speaker 1: You did what I'm talking about. So motherfuckers was trying
Speaker 1: to write.
Speaker 5: Us out of this motherfucker like we weren't human.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: It was actually the constitution of a three phystves man.
Speaker 1: You did, Now you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So it was actually written in there, and so it's
Speaker 5: hard to get them to see pass all that. And
Speaker 5: these laws are still created like that, and these motherfuckers
Speaker 5: still move as a byproduct to all that. And then
Speaker 5: you got their kids that the ones even if they
Speaker 5: not racist, if they gained goofy to it, they just
Speaker 5: you know, they just as.
Speaker 1: Bad to exactly you feel me it, man.
Speaker 5: So if we the one cats that finally get it
Speaker 5: or woke up to it and get the bag or
Speaker 5: get the energy to do something, you feel me, got
Speaker 5: to be able to use it to reach back, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, and create these platforms you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, to let cats catch them early. Man,
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. There's some cats that's too
Speaker 5: wild and they asses ain't gonna I ain't gonna calm down.
Speaker 5: It ain't in they energy, it ain't in they nature,
Speaker 5: it ain't any even in a uh, it's not part
Speaker 5: of their.
Speaker 1: Path to calm down.
Speaker 5: But some cats could actually be diverted, you feel me.
Speaker 5: Their energy could be swerved, you feel me. And and
Speaker 5: there's laws that's written they won't even let you swerve
Speaker 5: them out the situation they got lost for everybody else
Speaker 5: to have swerved. Oh you know what, you know, we
Speaker 5: think we can divert you and do this differently. Instead
Speaker 5: of you going to jail, we'll divert you. But it
Speaker 5: comes to this skin color. It ain't too much diversion
Speaker 5: going on unless you got a mental health problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's real. Let me ask you this, bro, You've
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Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: A lot of y'all talk like y'all got hands, you
Speaker 5: really don't have hands, you feel me. A lot of
Speaker 5: y'all swear you could fight. You really don't know how
Speaker 5: to fight, you know what I mean? And if you
Speaker 5: want to prove that you can fight, or you think
Speaker 5: you really want to test that metal out, you come
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 4: Podcasters?
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Speaker 4: Man? What say on that song? I only exercise one
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Speaker 3: Fan, I think, uh.
Speaker 4: I'm leading the box into the boxes.
Speaker 1: I think they got a belt they going.
Speaker 5: Uh the boys six hundred is supposed to be fading
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think they're gonna be on the influencer
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Speaker 4: And you got influence a car coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to influence a car coming. We want
Speaker 1: to stack it up. Though before we were gonna drop it.
Speaker 5: I think we was gonna do it in March, but
Speaker 5: I want I want it to be a more heavyweighted thing.
Speaker 5: And I got confirmed that I might be able to
Speaker 5: pull off some where. I have some pro fighters going
Speaker 5: to exhibition fight against each other.
Speaker 1: It won't go on their.
Speaker 5: Record, but they'll be able to box it out, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? And uh, yeah, they'll have to
Speaker 5: have headgear on and all that for me to get
Speaker 5: a sanctioned right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You know that I would love to see a few
Speaker 4: of these podcasts and scrap now. But I know the
Speaker 4: motherfuckers can't do them run they mom.
Speaker 1: They can't fight.
Speaker 5: So if you won't, you could get trained up. Come
Speaker 5: to the F and F Fight camp and get trained
Speaker 5: up so you get your hands up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I need probably like a good three months with you though,
Speaker 5: to get you right. If you're an athlete, nine times
Speaker 5: out of ten we could get your hands right, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. If you're not an athlete, it
Speaker 5: might just take you longer because you're coordination and footwork
Speaker 5: gonna have to be don everything.
Speaker 3: These dudes that get knocked the fuck out, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: motherfuckers get knocked out.
Speaker 1: Anybody can get knocked the fuck No.
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Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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