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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody walking to move the sticks? Uh? DJ

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Speaker 1: we get ready for the scouting combine. UM. Today's episode

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Speaker 1: It's my conference call with the media ahead of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine. Our first question comes from day Briquette. Dave,

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Speaker 1: help me sort of sort through you know, Kyle Hamilton's

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Speaker 1: tomato cans out there. Um. And you can build that

427
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: in the middle rounds. You can find really good offensive

428
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 1: linemen in the second and third round. UM. I went

429
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: back and looked up the last five Super Bowl teams.

430
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: So if you look up the last five Super Bowl teams,

431
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 1: that's Super Bowl winning teams. That's twenty five starting offensive lineman.

432
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 1: Of the twenty five starting offensive lineman, three of them

433
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: were homegrown first round picks, so it's four four of

434
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 1: them were Day two picks, seven were Day three picks.

435
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: One was an undrafted free agent, and ten were veterans

436
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 1: that were required uh in free agency or via trade.

437
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 1: So there's you can build an offensive line without using

438
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: all your first round picks to do it. And that's

439
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: that's why I think the Giants are in an interesting

440
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: spot if those top two guys are gone, I don't

441
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: know they necessarily need to force that. Next question comes

442
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: from Bill. We've been to what's the Ohio State players?

443
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we the consensus is that Crystal Lobby

444
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: and the first round picks. I'm curious about the others. Um,

445
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: kind of mid round, second round or mid round guys.

446
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: Maybe starting with Jeremy Ruckert, you kind of address where

447
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: do you think those guys might fit. Yeah. Um, again

448
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's a good group. You start getting to, uh,

449
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'll start with Ruckert. You know, records, somebody

450
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of opportunities there, just in terms

451
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: of targets and you know, went forty two targets this year. Um,

452
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 1: he's kind of a good you know, true why tight

453
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: end hand in the ground. Um, not real flashy, not

454
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: real explosive, but he can help you out in the

455
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: run game. And he's reliable pass catcher. I gave him

456
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: a grade that kind of puts him in that fourth

457
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: round range. UM for this draft, I think it's a

458
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 1: pretty good tight end draft. Don't think we have that.

459
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's no Kyle Pitts, but there is a

460
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: ton of depth. UM, So I think that's probably about

461
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: where he stacks up. Uh petite freer that the tackle

462
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: is probably you know, I have him more in that

463
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, third round. I wouldn't be shocked if he's

464
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: snuck into the second round. But you know, he's got

465
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: real quick feed, he can rework his hands. UM. I

466
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 1: thought he just needed to play with a little more strength.

467
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: He gets gives a little ground versus power. UM. But

468
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of athleticism. There's a lot of

469
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: stuff to work with. UM. Tyreek Smith I think is

470
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: probably in that fourth fourth round range. He's a you know,

471
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: he's talented, he's got a lot of twitch, He's got

472
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot of juice coming off the edge. He just

473
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: needs to be a little more firm in the run game.

474
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: He got washed a little bit too much with that

475
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: Haskell Garrett which I've I've probably called him Garrett Haskell

476
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: at least ten times already in the in the draft process,

477
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: So I'm sure I'm gonna screw that up on draft night.

478
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he's uh, he's you know, he's if you

479
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: watched Akron, you think he was gonna be the first

480
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. He loved playing the Zips. He

481
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: had the three sacks in that game and got after them. Um.

482
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: But you know, he's somebody that I think is probably

483
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: more of like a fifth round, fifth round guy. And

484
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: same for Thayer Mounthsford. Um, as you know, where do

485
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: you play him? Do you play met guard, you play

486
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: m at tackle. He's got good awareness, he just plays

487
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: really high and uh and that got exposed a little

488
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: bit against some of the better competition. Next question comes

489
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: from Eric to Law the DJ A couple of questions

490
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks. First, which quarterback do you think is

491
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: ready to play now? And maybe who has the highest

492
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: long term ceiling? And then which of those guys do

493
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: you think might fit best in the Nathaniel Hacketts system

494
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: there in Denver. By the way, I think we were

495
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: thirty two minutes in before we got the first quarterback questions,

496
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: So that tells you it's a little different draft than uh, um,

497
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: than what we've had. So it's kind of fascinating. But um,

498
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: ready to play right now? I would say Picket. You know,

499
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: Picket's got a lot of experience. UM. He to me

500
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: is somebody when you watch all these guys and you

501
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: kind of watch him all one after another. Um, it's

502
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: just different with how quickly he operates, just getting through progressions, UM,

503
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: getting the ball where it needs to be. He's not

504
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't have you know, wow arm strength. He doesn't

505
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: blow you away with that, but he's he's he's got

506
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: really good vision. He throws with anticipation and timing. Um,

507
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: I think he'd be you know, he'd be ready to

508
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: come in and play right away. Um. In terms of

509
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: the upside, you know, I don't know how you see

510
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: any but other than the leak, willis just in terms

511
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 1: of what he can do, um, you know once he

512
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: gets it all figured out. But I mean he's got

513
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: a huge arm. Not real tall obviously, just a little

514
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: over six ft tall, but he is built. Now, he

515
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: is a powerfully built guy. UM who can drive the ball.

516
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: You know, he saw it at the Senior Bowl when

517
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: it was raining and everybody else was struggling. He didn't

518
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: have any issues whatsoever. This guy can really power the football.

519
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: He can make off platform throws, he can create, Um,

520
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: you can use it the you know, design quarterback run

521
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: game with him and uh and he's outstanding with that,

522
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: just so strong and physical. So um, I think he

523
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: would be the one with the most upside. And then

524
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: the third part of that question, who fits best? Um, Yeah,

525
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: you know I would probably I would probably say pick it.

526
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, Matt Corrall is really intriguing, but I would say,

527
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: just with how they operate and uh, you know what

528
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: they want want to want from the quarterback position, you know,

529
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I would probably lean towards Pickett is fitting them best.

530
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: Next question comes from John Craicy. Daniel's up about the Canadians,

531
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: um be moving up in the METCI let's go. Let's

532
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: go with Metchi. I figured you'd want to start with him,

533
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: but also Jess Lakeda Penn State Edge and from London,

534
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: Ontario Western University, Deonte Night Edge guy from the Shrine Bull,

535
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: and any other Canadians you might have heard of. Yeah,

536
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: I haven't done Night yet from the Shrine Ball. I

537
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to the combine. If if I'm correct, Um,

538
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 1: but I'll get to him. I promise you'll get to him.

539
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: You can hit me on Twitter and I'll get back

540
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: to you on that. Metchi is gonna be a great

541
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: value pick in this draft. Um, he is a ready

542
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: made slot He's he's really really a crisp route runner.

543
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: He's tough, he's strong. Um, you know, the a c

544
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: L injury is you know, it's just a matter of

545
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: where you take him. But I don't think his game

546
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: was really ever built on speed. So um, I think

547
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: you know I wrote down in my comparison, you reminded

548
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: me kind of like a Mari Rodgers type player, Um,

549
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: who went to the Packers just because he can. He

550
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things. Man, he's in

551
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: terms of those of whip routes that they asked him

552
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: to run, he's outstanding at it. So, UM, I would

553
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: guess with the injury and a pretty deep receiver Corps

554
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: got Lee, he might you know, the third fourth round.

555
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets in the fourth round. Um be a

556
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: heck of a heck of a pick for somebody. And

557
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: then Luketta is uh, you know, he just a real

558
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: versatile player. And you talked to some some coaches around

559
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: the league right now and kind of where everything's going.

560
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: We've we've been talking about position list players forever. Um,

561
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: he's a different style when it comes to that in

562
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: terms of what he can do. But he can do

563
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: more than one thing. Um, so his ability to play

564
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: off the ball, it's ability to rush off the edge.

565
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: I love the fact that the guy just plays with

566
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: fantastic energy. He just has always bounced around. He's got

567
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: a lot of juice, he's got a lot of life. Um,

568
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: he's got really really violent hands when he takes on blocks.

569
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: You know, some of the change of direction stuff and

570
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: some of the stiffness you're just gonna have to live with.

571
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: But I would say, Lookette is probably a you know,

572
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: a third round type guy, probably in that range. Next

573
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: question comes to involvement minimum DJ. Thanks for doing this man,

574
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: no problem in general. Question really is is about the

575
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: value of the combine itself. Still. I know what's changed

576
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: over the years, but with all the technology that's been

577
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: added for the league. I mean, Steve Kain was telling

578
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: me that they use FaceTime more than they ever thought

579
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: they would in their lives to get you know, just

580
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: a further interview prospects. Can you talk about the value

581
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: that it still has for teams today and how much

582
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: the combine has changed overall. Yeah, I still think it

583
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: has value. It definitely has changed, you know, and talked

584
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: earlier about some of the guys that are coming out

585
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: there doing their media obligations and then going back home. Um,

586
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: but you also have the ability through you know, like

587
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: you were saying, with FaceTime or zoom or whatever you

588
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: use to be able to get a lot more interviews

589
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: and conversations with these guys. I think it's still valuable

590
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of of watching these guys all move

591
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: around on the field together. Um, you know, when you've

592
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: got corners and uh, you know, you've got four corners

593
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: that you've got the same grade on, you know, and

594
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: you think they're potential starters. You have them all kind

595
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: of in your third round stack, and then they're out

596
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: on the same field at the same time doing the

597
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: same drills. Man, it really helps you. It really helps

598
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: you be able to separate those and evaluate those guys

599
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: just in terms of how they move. I've always said,

600
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, the combine the All Star Games, you know,

601
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: they don't provide wild swings, but they can't they can

602
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, break ties, and I think that's they're still

603
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: value there. And um, you know, I think some people

604
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: would say, well, you see everything on the tape, so

605
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: you don't to have the combine and what's the point

606
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: of the pro day you have all this technology. Yeah, well,

607
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: you know what if I watch a corner and he

608
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: never plays press, um, I want to see how he

609
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: how he moves when he gets up in there. If

610
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: it's watch a corner and he's always in a side turn,

611
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I want to see how he pedals. So you get

612
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: in these drill sessions, you get a chance to fill

613
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: in some of the gaps for some of these guys

614
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: doing things they haven't done before. You might have a

615
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: defensive end that's two hundred and thirty pounds and you

616
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: got to write him up as an off the ball linebacker. Well,

617
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: I sure as heck would like to see him do

618
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: some linebacker drills and it helps for context to see

619
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: him do those drills with other linebackers. Um, so I

620
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: still think there's a lot of value to it. Next

621
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: question comes from Tim Tournament. Hey, Daniel, thanks for taking

622
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: the time as always, No problem, Hey, I just you

623
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: obviously mocked Aid into Detroit at number two. But I'm

624
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: just curious in your evaluation, what's the biggest difference between

625
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: hutch and Thibodeaux when you watch and evaluate them on tape. Well,

626
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, first of all, I think Hutchinson

627
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: just has more ways to get to the quarterback. UM.

628
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: I think he's got more tools in that regard. UM.

629
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: I also think he plays, you know, a lot harder

630
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. I think that's a little bit

631
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: of the knock on Thibodeau, as there's times where you know,

632
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: the effort kind of comes and goes a little bit.

633
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: You don't ever see that with Hutchinson. UM. I think

634
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: both guys have a little bit of ankle tightness that

635
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: that shows up. I don't think either one of them

636
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: are elite you know, bend at the top of your

637
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: rush guys. UM. But I think that you know, Aiden's

638
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: showing a little bit more um, you know, snap and

639
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: explosiveness with his hands on contact. You see it in

640
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: flashes with Thibodeau. But I think overall kind of the

641
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: theme is that Hutchinson, especially on this year, when you

642
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: compare those two guys just down in down out, game

643
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: and game out, was just more consistent throughout the season.

644
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: Next question comes from Dead for our A couple of questions,

645
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: one more general, one more specific. Uh, I mean it's

646
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: kind of with Kyle Hamilton's You hear some people say

647
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: that safety is in a premium position, which I I'm

648
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: kind of at a loss in today's NFL. Where do

649
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: you stand on the importance of the safety in any defense?

650
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: And then, um, everyone's looking for the next Michael Parsons

651
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: in this draft. Good luck. But is there a guy

652
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: like Devin Lloyd or someone else who could be that

653
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: off ball edge kind of hybrid right away? Um? Yeah,

654
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, there's not. I love some of the

655
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: players in this draft of Michael Parsons is pretty unique.

656
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: Um in that regard. I'm with you, though, Doug on

657
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: the importance of safeties. You know, I've been around some

658
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: really good ones, and I absolutely see the value. And

659
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: I think today I'd argue that's more valuable than it's

660
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: ever been because it's such a space game and you

661
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: need tacklers. You need guys back there that can cover

662
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: and guys that can tackle. Um, and then if you

663
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: have the the versatility to be able to do multiple

664
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: things that cover in the slot or you know, match

665
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: up with tight ends. Um, I just think it's never

666
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: been more important to have guys like that. You if

667
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: you've got a safety that that can't consistently cover tackle,

668
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: you are in big trouble with the way the game

669
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: is right now, with all a spread and speed that

670
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna see. So, yeah, I'm with you. I know

671
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: league wide, you hear a mixed bag on that. I

672
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: I still think there's tremendous value with that position, um,

673
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: in terms of like the do everything you know, guys

674
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: off the ball on the edge. Devin Lloyd's is my

675
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: first choice there. Um, He's he's explosive. He's not gonna

676
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: run as fast as as mikea did, but he's got length,

677
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: he's got instincts. He's outstanding in past coverage, Like if

678
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: you watch a Stanford game, he's gotta pick six in

679
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: that game. Is pretty cool. Um. But now he's he's

680
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: somebody that can do a little bit of both. From

681
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: that regard, I would also add um from Georgia, I

682
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: mean Kay Walker can he can do some different things too.

683
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: He's kind of a unique package with his ability to

684
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: play off the ball and rush as well. Next question

685
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: comes from Antoine's Daley. Hey, DJ, I know you talked

686
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: about Cabon Thibodeau a little bit, but also talk about

687
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: Rome McKinley Oregon prospect and also uh but Calee right

688
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: and some of the other Duck prospects you see as well. Sure, Um,

689
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean McKinley's got a ton of production, that's for sure.

690
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: I think we're he got six picks, I believe, Yeah.

691
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean he played, he plays in the middle of

692
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: the field. He's got really good eyes. I thought there

693
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: were sometimes he got a little bit greedy. Um, you

694
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: don't get six picks without being willing to take some chances.

695
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: So there's times he gets a little bit aggressive. Um,

696
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's uh, there's some mistackles in space that

697
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: bothered me a little bit. That's probably why I dropped

698
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: him down a little bit lower. But you've got ball production,

699
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: You've got somebody that plays, you know, plays pretty fast.

700
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: So I think he's somebody that's gonna, Yeah, would where

701
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: I have him great and we'll see how this whole

702
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: draft shakes out. Let's see him running all that stuff.

703
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: But I was I have him more down probably in

704
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: that fifth round range. Um, Michael Right, he's got a

705
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: real slight build. Um, he's really fluid from off. He's uh,

706
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, he's somebody that's it's usually in good position,

707
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: except when he's looking at his wristband against Ohio State

708
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: and I think with Garrett Wilson that went right by him. Uh,

709
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: got caught peeking on that one. But he's another one.

710
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: I just think you want to see him be a

711
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: little bit stronger, a little bit more physical. You know

712
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: you're talking, you know, fourth, fifth round for me. Next

713
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: question comes from Tom rock d J. I know we've

714
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: we've seen the sort of the evolution of the tight

715
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: end position a little bit over the last few years

716
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: and more basketball player type players and guys who were explosive.

717
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: You talked a little bit about Jeremy Ruckert. Uh, you know,

718
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: how hard is it to maybe project and fit him

719
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: into that role in the NFL based on what he

720
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: was asked to do at Ohio State. Yeah, I mean

721
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: you got to say a little bit of it down

722
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. You know, your chance to ask him

723
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: to do some different things. Um, but you know he's

724
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: I remember seeing this kid at the opening at the

725
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: Nike opening, which was you know for all the top

726
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: high school players. We were covering that for NFL Network

727
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: that year that he was coming out, was justin Field

728
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence, and he stood out. I mean knows

729
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: him as a high school kid. Just his ability to

730
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: to really go get the football, so you know, we

731
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: can do that. I don't think he's you know, ultra

732
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: ultra twitched up and explosive. Um, but I think you know,

733
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: you want guys that are dynamic. But it's also it's

734
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: sure it's nice to be able to put your hand

735
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: in the ground and actually be a friend of the

736
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: running back and not just the quarterback. And I think

737
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: he can do that. So I think that's where he's

738
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: going to help his value a little bit. The numbers

739
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: in the production aren't great, but if you go and

740
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: look at you know, look at the top tight ends

741
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL and for the most part you look

742
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: at their production with guys like George Kittle, UM, it

743
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: was a it's a traits over production position right now.

744
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: You're trying to find guys that have the ability to

745
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: do those things. You don't necessarily have to have seen

746
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: them do it, but you want to know they have

747
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: that ability. That's why I could argue, you know, corners

748
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: in terms of workouts in in pro days and combine.

749
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: I think corners have the most writing on it because

750
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: you you've got to really be able to run there.

751
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: I would say tight ends or second, because it's really

752
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: evolved into being a traits position. Um, you know, you

753
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: get the traits and you can figure the rest of

754
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: it out. Next question comes from Rich meaning, hey, g

755
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: G a jet question with four and ten. I guess

756
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: one school of thought is that you have to do

757
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: everything possible with your top resources to help your quarterback

758
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: as much as possible to reach his potential. But you

759
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: also have a head coach was a defensive guy whose

760
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: defense was thirty second in the league in most of

761
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: the categories. So if you're Joe Douglas, it might be

762
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: an interesting dilemma there. How do you think Joe proceeds well?

763
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's it's hard with any of

764
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: these teams this time before free agency to say with

765
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: any certainty they need to do this out or the other.

766
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: I think they're in a great cap situation, and I

767
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: think they've kind of positioned themselves to be pretty aggressive,

768
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: so I would expect they will be pretty active in

769
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: free agency, and I think that might clear the picture

770
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: up a little bit in terms of where they could

771
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: go with four and ten UM. But you know there's

772
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: the it's a good thing and a bad thing, right.

773
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: The bad news is you've got a lot of needs.

774
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: The good news is you've got a lot of needs,

775
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: so you can take you know, the best players that

776
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: are available in those spots. UM. But you know, I

777
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: think they've got to come through this offseason. They've got

778
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: to UH, they've got to get another playmaker to help

779
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I think they need an interior lineman, um

780
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: to help the quarterback. I think they need a tight

781
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: end to help the quarterback. Now, the good news is

782
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: tight ends and free agency it's a really deep crowded group.

783
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: The tight ends and the draft are deep crowded group.

784
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: So I don't think they need to devote any early

785
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: resources in the draft to to get that problem solved.

786
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: And I think from an interior offensive lineman standpoint, UM,

787
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: there's some guys in free agency, UM that are interesting,

788
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: and then you also have the prospect of getting guys

789
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: on Day two. UM. So when I look at their

790
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: picks in the first round, I look at some of

791
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: the remaining needs, and I think playmaker, you know, a

792
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: receiver would be interesting if you love a guy um.

793
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: And obviously on defense, I think in edge, rusher, in

794
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: a corner. I think those three positions you probably get

795
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: two out of those three. Next question comes from Jordy Epstein. Hi, Daniel,

796
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have spoken a lot about dan Quinn's influence

797
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: on their personnel philosophy. I'm curious how much you factor

798
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: that in when you looked at what you thought would

799
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: be a good fit for the was this here and

800
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: how you think he's influencing what they're looking for? Yeah,

801
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean dan is um. I think when they were

802
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, the phrase that that him and Thomas Demetroff

803
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: would always use was urgent athletes. You're looking for guys

804
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: that were very you know, just sudden, explosive, um and

805
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: pretty dynamic. And you know, Michael Parsons definitely fits the

806
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: bill when you're thinking about those traits, when you look

807
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: at him in this upcoming draft and say, okay, defensively

808
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: you need a corner um. I mean Kyler Gordon from

809
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: from Washington as somebody I think that would be very

810
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: fascinating fit there because he's got this size and length

811
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: that you love. He's big time explosive. When you get

812
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: to the combine, This dude's gonna jump over forty He's

813
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: gonna run the four three's like he's He's a pretty

814
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: dynamic athlete. It'd be fun to see him on the

815
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: other side of digs Um. I think he would be

816
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: a great fit there. And then I believe I've had

817
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: the Kobe Dean um going in there and some of

818
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: these mock drafts. Who's the definition of an urgent athlete?

819
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Now he might not have the big time size that

820
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: you that you look for, um, but in terms of

821
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: just playing with your hair on fire and uh and

822
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: playing fast from snap to whistle, he fits that. And

823
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: then also the added bonuses you have all the intelligence

824
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: and all the leadership, and I think he could take

825
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: some stuff off of Parsons plate, maybe even free him

826
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: up a little bit more, uh to do some more

827
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: work off the edge. I just I would love to

828
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: see that fit with Dan Quinn. Next question comes from

829
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: Ethan cadro Hid. Thanks for doing this. I was looking

830
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: at your latest mock and you have Washington at eleven

831
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: going a different direction, not quarterback, despite all five being

832
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: there one. Why did you go that direction? To which

833
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks do you think is the best fit

834
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: for the Commanders? Yeah, I mean it's just challenging because

835
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: I don't there's none of the quarterbacks just completely blow

836
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: you away that say Okay, slam dunk, you've got to

837
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: take him. Um. And I just think about Ron Rivera,

838
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: where he's at in his career, and I look at

839
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: some of the pieces on this roster and I'm I'm

840
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: just wondering if they end up trying to go the

841
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: veteran route. So when you do these op drafts, you

842
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: play with different scenarios. The first the first one, and

843
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: you do you say, okay, they take the quarterback. What

844
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, this is how the path that they go down? Um.

845
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: But when you look at you know some other options

846
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: that could be out there from the veteran market, and

847
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: you say, okay, if they were to go with the

848
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback, what's the play here? And if Schurff's leaving

849
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Speaker 1: UM in free agency, which I think a lot of

850
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: people expect to happen, Um, you're gonna have a hole there.

851
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Speaker 1: So I think I had them that I have to

852
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Speaker 1: think Kenyan Green, I want to say is Uh so

853
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: I had going there too. I think is the best.

854
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: I think he's the best interior a linement in the

855
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Speaker 1: draft who's got some real uh you know, some real power,

856
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: some real strength. He can anchor down and pass pro

857
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fascinating to see who kind of

858
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Speaker 1: blinks when it comes to these quarterbacks. I don't have

859
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Speaker 1: one with a top ten grade, but I also don't

860
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Speaker 1: have a dying need of the position personally in the

861
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Jeremiah household. So I'm curious to see who the first

862
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: team is to say, okay, yeah, we're all in on

863
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: one of these guys. Next question comes from James Johnson.

864
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Speaker 1: You know what's up. DJ, appreciate you doing this and

865
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Speaker 1: I hope all the Wills so x man you too. Yeah.

866
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Speaker 1: My question is um actually on the Jazz's behalf. And

867
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: you spoke on the receivers already. Uh so it looks

868
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: like we know what they pretty much can do at

869
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: first overall between you know, Neil or one of the

870
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: past for rushers that you've already talked on. But with

871
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Speaker 1: the thirty third overall pick, it's my big question. Is

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Speaker 1: there a wide receiver one or wide receiver too, like

873
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Speaker 1: prospect that has wide receiver one, the ride receiver to

874
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Speaker 1: potential should I say prospect that would be available there

875
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Speaker 1: at thirty third overall that you think they could get

876
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: because clearly, aside from the offensive line, they need help

877
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Well, we see receivers that our first

878
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: round guys, you know, fall out of the first round

879
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: every year, and part of it's just because we have

880
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: the sheer numbers. Um. But if you look at the

881
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: white outs that have been taken in the second round

882
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: of the last handful of years, you're gonna see a

883
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: ton of studs from you know, and just look at

884
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: old mess I mean from from DK metcalf A, J. Brown,

885
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Elijah More, those three wide receivers from one school, Um,

886
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, Terry McLaurin, on and on and on and on.

887
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: We can we can go through a Deebo Samuel. Every

888
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: year we see guys with with big grades that end

889
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: up falling into the second round just because the sheer

890
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: number of whiteouts that we have. So um, yeah, they

891
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: could end up getting a number one or number two receiver. Right,

892
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Speaker 1: I'm curious. We we we talked about him a little bit,

893
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: but you know, Jamison Williams where does he go. Does

894
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: he still go in the first round off that injury? Um,

895
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, you're the Jags. Shoot, that's you talk

896
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: about the hitting a home run. When he gets healthy.

897
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: You've got a dynamic player for Trevor to work with here,

898
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: So that would be kind of a slam dunk no brainer. Um.

899
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Speaker 1: You know we've talked about a Lava and Dotson. Does

900
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Speaker 1: one of them fall out? I think trailing Burkes would

901
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: be long gone. Um, kind of a wild card. It

902
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: might be a little early there with that first pick.

903
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: But George Pickens from from Georgia, who has had some injuries,

904
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: is really really gifted. Um, so to me, I think,

905
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of thought he'd be more back

906
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: end of who But we'll see how he goes through

907
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: the spring. Because that guy's he can really go up

908
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: and get the football. He's he's just you know, has

909
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: that ability to play above the rim. And he's a

910
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: pretty crisp ro out runner for somebody who's you know,

911
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: six ft three. So he's an interesting one. I think

912
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: those are kind of the names that would keep an

913
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: eye on. After that you're talking about maybe you slide

914
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Speaker 1: down a little bit, you get into the David Bells,

915
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: the Christian Watson's, you know, the sky More's, the Jalen

916
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: Tilberts of the world. Yeah, you you, You pretty much

917
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head of what I was

918
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Speaker 1: thinking with Pickings. He was a name that came up,

919
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: freaky athlete, kind of hurt by them the A c

920
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Speaker 1: L situation a little bit. And Williams, I mean, you

921
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: know a lot of people say what they like about

922
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Speaker 1: Trink Baky, but Williams with the a c L injury

923
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Speaker 1: fall into them. That's the ideal Trump. I've heard. I've

924
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: heard that everybody likes to have fun with the a

925
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Speaker 1: c L, with the nine or days. But uh no,

926
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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd have too many complaining Jags fans

927
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Speaker 1: if they end up with Jamison Williams the top of

928
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: the second round. Thank you. Next question comes from Emmanuel Morgan. Daniel, Um,

929
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Speaker 1: what do you think teams learned last season about the

930
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: availuming's process without a draft ums doing a pro days

931
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Speaker 1: and how do you think they'll kind of applay at

932
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: dis sting on the Combins deck. Oh, that's that's a

933
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: good question. I think really it's been discussed a little bit,

934
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: but the ability to communicate with these guys um over

935
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Speaker 1: zoom and be able to use that technology to your advantage.

936
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Speaker 1: I think is something that's going to carry over in

937
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: a big way. Um you know, getting a chance to

938
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Speaker 1: watch tape and share your screen and go over video

939
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Speaker 1: with players like that. Used to not be able to

940
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Speaker 1: do that in order to have a film session with somebody.

941
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: You've got your fifteen minutes at the combine and you

942
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: had one opportunity to bring him in um to the facility,

943
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: and then maybe you go out there for the pro

944
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: day and you know, you've got thirty other position coaches

945
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: that are trying to meet with the same kid the

946
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: day before, so that can get kind of tricky. Now

947
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: you can do it as you know almos much as

948
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: you want to get with them and really get a

949
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: sense for how how they learn and and uh and

950
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: what you're seeing, what they're seeing and how that meshes.

951
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: So I think that's something you're definitely gonna see carry over.

952
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: And I think the GPS stuff, um, that's real. I

953
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: think a lot of people relied on that, A lot

954
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: of teams relied on that last year, and I think

955
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna be again the case. The one thing I

956
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: would say, is there's a discrepancy on you know, on

957
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that you get from different schools. Um,

958
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: some of the numbers I've received from some schools not

959
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: necessarily buying because it doesn't match up. I have a

960
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: hard time believing some of these tight ends are faster

961
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: than Tyreek Kill. So, uh, some of that, some of

962
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: that stuff you've got to kind of stift through and

963
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: sort through. UM. But I do think the teams have

964
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: their own, uh you know software that they've been able

965
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: to to use some of this GPS stuff off of

966
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: the tape in trying to get real game speed numbers

967
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: versus just what we might get at at at forty.

968
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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for us. I hope

969
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: you guys have enjoyed that again, another marathon on. They're

970
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: appreciating to be able doing all the editing there to

971
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Speaker 1: get to get that in a little more consumable form.

972
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Speaker 1: So appreciate you guys hanging with me on that one.

973
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Speaker 1: Hopefully you are able to get a little something out

974
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Speaker 1: of that. Hopefully you'll join us for our coverage uh

975
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: from Indianapolis at the NFL Scout and Combine. That's March

976
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: three through March six, we'll have all the workouts covered

977
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: for you right here on NFL Network. So thank you

978
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Speaker 1: guys so much for hanging with us today. We'll catch

979
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Speaker 1: you next time right here on Move the sticks.