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Speaker 1: twenty first, twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number ninety four.
Speaker 1: Welcome the latest edition of The Break live from the
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Speaker 1: holiday cheer with some good Christmas music there. That was good.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good stuff. Yeah yeah, nice little beat
Speaker 1: to it. Do you like it? Sure? Sure? It was outstanding?
Speaker 1: What good? What was all this Greek stuff? Nothing? I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to make sure you're in a good mood
Speaker 1: for Christmas. You calling me a grant, I know sometimes
Speaker 1: you're sometimes just not as people used to call me
Speaker 1: Saint Nick all the time, like for other reasons. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I mean, for what other reasons? I'm just because I'm
Speaker 1: saying that you put sat with Nick. No, we covered
Speaker 1: the Saint last. Okay, may be there again. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Appreciate you guys joining us today. We're talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Eagles. Today we're gonna get into the Eagles
Speaker 1: offense versus the Dallas defense. We'll talk some more about
Speaker 1: this defense too. I know jay Ron Curse has some
Speaker 1: things to say yesterday I thought were really interesting. But
Speaker 1: let's start first. I want to look at a big
Speaker 1: just the bigger picture around the Philadelphia game. I think
Speaker 1: all of us coming into maybe let's say two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: we had this game kind of circled on the calendar
Speaker 1: as this is going to be a real telltell game,
Speaker 1: it is going to be an important game. And then
Speaker 1: the Cowboys lose last weekend and you're in a situation
Speaker 1: where basically Dallas has to win out and Philly has
Speaker 1: to lose out in order for you to in order
Speaker 1: for Dallas to be able to have a shot at
Speaker 1: the at the NFC East title. But despite all that,
Speaker 1: they actually already clinched a playoff spot. My question for
Speaker 1: you guys is how important is this game at this point?
Speaker 1: Very important, very important because you're not playing great football
Speaker 1: right now and you need to figure out. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the time you're to start doing that. And
Speaker 1: I think that that. I mean, this is going to
Speaker 1: be a very very tough matchup, and I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it's very it's important because and also you
Speaker 1: need to be the number five seed. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about it. You've got to be the five. The difference
Speaker 1: between playing at Tampa or Carolina or atlant or whoever
Speaker 1: New Orleans is way different than playing at Minnesota or
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Yeah, really Minnesota. No. I think it's absolutely
Speaker 1: an important game. And the problem that you're you know,
Speaker 1: that you're running into is that you need to play
Speaker 1: like a team that's really desperate. You need to I'm
Speaker 1: one of these guys that always believes in the desperate
Speaker 1: team theory. And to Nick's point, you know the Jacksonville game,
Speaker 1: the way it ended, it's a bad way that you
Speaker 1: had that game in hand, You're up, you know the team,
Speaker 1: you know you had him beat, and you just couldn't
Speaker 1: finish the game like you finished the game the week before.
Speaker 1: I think they need to develop some consistency the last
Speaker 1: three games. I think all these next three games are
Speaker 1: really now it might not be important as far as
Speaker 1: um you know where it looks in the standard I understand,
Speaker 1: like Nick's right about where the seating is. You you
Speaker 1: want to go to one of these NFC South teams.
Speaker 1: You do not want to have to go back up
Speaker 1: to Minneapolis and let them figure all that out again.
Speaker 1: So to me, yeah, but you need to find a
Speaker 1: way to not just be spewing oil going into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You know, you need you need, Yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a racing term. I mean, you don't you know, you're
Speaker 1: you're you're running well, all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: the break hub in the twenty four hours, the role
Speaker 1: X twenty four let's go, and now you're not winning
Speaker 1: the race anymore. You know, that's my experience of racing.
Speaker 1: And so to me, the Cowboys are in that same way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're probably not going to win the division, but finish
Speaker 1: this thing out, you know, if you can steal rest
Speaker 1: whatever you have to do, I know, but you need
Speaker 1: to be playing your absolute best. You look at the
Speaker 1: teams that have had success in the playoffs, it's the
Speaker 1: ones that are scrambling their ass off. And there's that
Speaker 1: word ass again that you know, you're scrambling your ass
Speaker 1: off to get into, you know, the postseason, and you're
Speaker 1: battle tested, and you every week is a playoff game.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like the Cowboys need to treat
Speaker 1: these games like playoff games, you know, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: find your best way, get some consistency, have something to
Speaker 1: be able to hang your had on when you have
Speaker 1: to go play in that first round. To me, this
Speaker 1: game has been the most important game since I believe
Speaker 1: it was Week six when they last played the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Since then, I've been looking forward to this game anxiously
Speaker 1: because they were so close. And I don't care who
Speaker 1: the quarterback is for them this week, and it does
Speaker 1: not matter. The Cowboys need to go out there and win.
Speaker 1: They're at home. If they don't win this, I mean,
Speaker 1: it just it does change your tune on what this
Speaker 1: team can even do in the playoffs. Just talk about
Speaker 1: moral victories. This is exactly what this would be for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They need to lift their head up and
Speaker 1: beat them and beat them good. I don't if they do,
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be a close game either,
Speaker 1: Like Yes, it'd be nice if they would go out
Speaker 1: there and win, but it'd be great if they can
Speaker 1: just like take over them and show things that they
Speaker 1: haven't been able to show in the past two weeks,
Speaker 1: like areas of improvement, because that gives you hope on
Speaker 1: what's to come, like especially on defense. If they start
Speaker 1: doing certain things, even let's say it's a close game,
Speaker 1: but they do certain things like in the running game,
Speaker 1: with the secondary things that give you hope in like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's some hope there. They can improve in the next
Speaker 1: few weeks, and then in the playoffs they can be
Speaker 1: a lot better than what we've seen, especially this last week.
Speaker 1: So those are the things that I'm looking at. But
Speaker 1: they definitely need to go out there at at and
Speaker 1: T Stadium and beat the Eagles. You guys, think it's
Speaker 1: a realistic thing at this point at all? Even if
Speaker 1: let's assume for a second that that Hurts is going
Speaker 1: to be out for one, two, maybe three games, Do
Speaker 1: you think it's at all realistic that Dallas can somehow
Speaker 1: pull three wins together and the Philly loses three or
Speaker 1: is this really just playing for the fifth seed? No,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I don't. I don't believe they
Speaker 1: can do that. I mean that you're basically you're saying
Speaker 1: that six things have to happen, and really don't have
Speaker 1: to have six because you got one of them, one
Speaker 1: of them goes together. But now he just said it,
Speaker 1: you need they need to established some consistency. I find
Speaker 1: it hard to believe the Cowboys could win three straight
Speaker 1: games at this point right now, especially when it's just
Speaker 1: it's just so hard to keep everyone healthy. I'd have
Speaker 1: a hard time thinking that. And then I also think,
Speaker 1: I don't think you go thirteen and one and then
Speaker 1: lose three in a row. I mean, the Eagles are
Speaker 1: a good football team and they're not gonna lose three.
Speaker 1: I'll say this though about that, that I never thought
Speaker 1: i'd see a team come back from thirty four points
Speaker 1: down in a football game with five minutes left to
Speaker 1: go and basically in the you know, third and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden their rallying. That's the NFL, I always say,
Speaker 1: the Minnesota game. Yeah, the strange lady thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just believe this the saving grace that you might
Speaker 1: have in this game, or this the way this season
Speaker 1: is going to end or could end. You get a
Speaker 1: victory the Saints the following week or playing against philadelph
Speaker 1: they're playing for a division title. They are they are
Speaker 1: fighting to try in a bad division. They're trying to
Speaker 1: get just if they can find a way to get
Speaker 1: you know, one game, two more. Yeah, if they find
Speaker 1: a way to get two more victories, maybe they win
Speaker 1: this division. So you got you got the Giants who
Speaker 1: beat the Commanders either now they're trying to play. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got teams that aren't have the you know, the
Speaker 1: U haul in the parking lot and there got one
Speaker 1: foot in the parking lot and one foot in the
Speaker 1: locker room. You know, you've got teams that legitimately playing
Speaker 1: the Eagles that are trying to win football games. And
Speaker 1: that's maybe you're not good enough. Maybe you're the you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you're the Giants and you're not good enough. And
Speaker 1: maybe you're the Saints and you're not good enough. But
Speaker 1: that's at least your hope. And they got But on
Speaker 1: the flip side, though, the Cowboys also face those teams
Speaker 1: as well. Tennessee will be fighting exactly and the Commanders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it works both ways. So like you said,
Speaker 1: if you can find the consistency to beat these teams
Speaker 1: to get in and all of a sudden you're on
Speaker 1: a high going in and they're on a downward slide.
Speaker 1: You know that that momentum is huge in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: It really really is. I mean, if my Ka Parsons
Speaker 1: analysis is right, then I guess the quarterback sho didn't
Speaker 1: really matter matter that whole life. I'm just saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying these if it's scheme wise and what they're
Speaker 1: doing just offensively with the kind of plays are calling,
Speaker 1: and she still work for them. Well, but here's the thing,
Speaker 1: And that's that's the part I wonder about for Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: And we'll see how how hurt the shoulder is, like,
Speaker 1: we don't really know. We'll find out a lot about
Speaker 1: that by how much they're willing to play him and
Speaker 1: if they change what they do schematically, because when you
Speaker 1: think about it, their scheme probably does have to change.
Speaker 1: I think what makes them so dangerous offensively is the
Speaker 1: fact that that quarterback can run, run, and he can
Speaker 1: run physically, And I wonder if the shoulder really is
Speaker 1: a problem, even if he plays, does it make them say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to call a few less of those plays
Speaker 1: where he's actually running the ball and maybe he's going
Speaker 1: to run the ball a little bit differently. We've seen
Speaker 1: him with Dack Nick. You talk about it all the time.
Speaker 1: In order for Dallas to be successful, Dak has to
Speaker 1: be the Dack from twenty sixteen and seventeen where he
Speaker 1: was an aggressive runner. He took what was there and
Speaker 1: if you were coming to attack, you better bring you
Speaker 1: better bring your hat right. So it's it's that kind
Speaker 1: of thing where it does make me think, are they
Speaker 1: will they have to change schematically what they're able to do,
Speaker 1: what they're doing offensively, and if they are, can they
Speaker 1: be as successful? Can they take advantage of all those
Speaker 1: opportunities and all those skill players that they have with
Speaker 1: a Gardner Minshew who doesn't give you that same running ability,
Speaker 1: maybe some running ability, but not the same kind of
Speaker 1: running ability that Jalen Hurts does. I keep thinking back
Speaker 1: at the Houston game and them changing quarterbacks and kind
Speaker 1: of how what that did to the Cowboys defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: it threw them off completely, I think for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: defense where they didn't really know how to answer against
Speaker 1: the switch at the quarterback position. So it just keeps
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough game, regardless who goes out
Speaker 1: there in plays, is just gonna be a tough game
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I think the running quarterback gives some problems.
Speaker 1: I think it's the misdirection that gives them even more problems.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think it's the they do
Speaker 1: not handle movement going one way and then being able
Speaker 1: to react. They're they're so trained and go get it.
Speaker 1: That movement gives them problems. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: movement turns into big lineman in front and pullers and
Speaker 1: you know, guys like that. And so the running Cormack.
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch Hurts play. They got him hurt.
Speaker 1: I mean they did they as much as they run him.
Speaker 1: They you know, you kind of figured something like this
Speaker 1: was gonna happen, that he's gonna you know, it might
Speaker 1: not be a separation or a spread, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But the way that they run him like he's like
Speaker 1: a power. It's like a power running game with him.
Speaker 1: It's a direct snap, it's pullers, it's him taking off running.
Speaker 1: You know, he breaks the pocket, he runs. What happens
Speaker 1: he gets whacked in the middle of the field, shoulder,
Speaker 1: everything going into the ground. You know, that's your guy
Speaker 1: right there. And their offense, like you said, Derek, is
Speaker 1: based on his ability to take the ball and run
Speaker 1: it in certain situations. But if you're the Eagles, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you want to just set him out like you're in
Speaker 1: the playoffs already? Like it doesn't seem smart. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying Jalen hurts whether he wants to play or not,
Speaker 1: him as a player, you as a head coach, and
Speaker 1: you as a team, wouldn't you want him to just
Speaker 1: sit down? Heal? And now they put him in the
Speaker 1: situation they really did. Yeah, But I mean I think
Speaker 1: that that makes sense. The only issue you said I
Speaker 1: think about for them is they have not clinched that
Speaker 1: number one seed, and the number one seed gets a
Speaker 1: huge advantage. They're the only team that won't be playing
Speaker 1: on wildcard weekend, and so until they clinched that, if
Speaker 1: I were them, I would be like, we gotta do
Speaker 1: that first, and so we gotta give ourselves the best
Speaker 1: chance to win there. Yeah. But to her point, is
Speaker 1: is it better to sit now and get ready to
Speaker 1: play next week against the Saints? You know, like he
Speaker 1: sits this week, A lot can happen. If if Jalen hurts,
Speaker 1: sits this week and the Cowboys win, and then they
Speaker 1: go and say, okay, now he's better, he's rested, he
Speaker 1: goes and they beat the Saints. If that happens that
Speaker 1: scenario where they lose to the Cowboys without him and
Speaker 1: he goes and beats the Saints, they could rest him
Speaker 1: the next week. You could rest him the next week
Speaker 1: and he wins the MVP. He wins the MVP right there,
Speaker 1: because you see the value with him. Does the same
Speaker 1: thing happen? If they win this week, they get to
Speaker 1: put on those hats that you talked about right there
Speaker 1: at at and T Stadium. They I think they may
Speaker 1: clinch at that point the number one seed. They get
Speaker 1: all that done this week, and then they got two weeks.
Speaker 1: But you're taking week risk. You're taking a huge risk.
Speaker 1: Let's say he injuries, yes, because he's already banked up right, Well,
Speaker 1: it depends on how that's that's the part. We don't
Speaker 1: know how serious this injury is, and so yes, you're right,
Speaker 1: if it's a serious injury. I know this. If my
Speaker 1: shoulder hurts, I don't want to throw it fifty times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get hit again and then you're
Speaker 1: screwed for whatever is to come into playoffs. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying like, it just seems that the risk versus reward
Speaker 1: doesn't seem worth it. If I'm them, let's say the
Speaker 1: same situation was happening with Dak, I would not want
Speaker 1: to play doc this weekend, sit him down, and let's
Speaker 1: see for next week. I'm just I'm more on the
Speaker 1: let's let's be saved. I would be if I was them,
Speaker 1: I would be confident they can win this game with
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew at quarterback too. Yeah, this defense. This usually
Speaker 1: when you play the Eagles late in the year, three
Speaker 1: of their five offensive linemen are on the injured list.
Speaker 1: It's not the case. All five of these guys are
Speaker 1: clean and ready to go. You get Dallas Goddard back,
Speaker 1: you got Sanders Gainwell, Boston Scott, you got running backs,
Speaker 1: you got the defense. It's you know, Cowboys won four
Speaker 1: or five games. Cowboys beat Cincinnati with the backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: This team can beat you with Gardner Minshew at quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing. It's not like that they're the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are dealing with a lot of stuff. Injury wise,
Speaker 1: this team isn't and that's why they got the record
Speaker 1: they do. And one of the reasons why they might
Speaker 1: think that is exactly what jay Ron Curse tucked about
Speaker 1: yesterday with the Gardner defense. We're gonna take a first break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna talk about some of
Speaker 1: those comments and how right he is, or if you
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Second segment of the Break Life in the
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Speaker 1: Ron Curse. He had some interesting comments to that he
Speaker 1: made yesterday of the media about the defense. Chris, you hey,
Speaker 1: I think you have that pulled up for us. Let's
Speaker 1: take a listen right now. You know we talked about
Speaker 1: bend it's one of the best defenses in the league.
Speaker 1: In the past two weeks, we haven't shown it at all,
Speaker 1: So I mean you are what you put on tape. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it just point we haven't. We haven't gotten
Speaker 1: a job done. We haven't gotten a job done at all.
Speaker 1: And just speaking solely from the defense. You know, we
Speaker 1: scored a third or four points. So Sunday we should
Speaker 1: we should come out with the victory. We should come
Speaker 1: up with the victory, and it should be a comfortable
Speaker 1: victim if we played the VD the defense that that
Speaker 1: we think we are. That was j Ron Curse Safety
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, talking about the defense and their struggles
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. It's kind of interesting
Speaker 1: to me that and our show is included with this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems interesting to me that coming out of this game,
Speaker 1: there's been so much talk about Dak Prescott, so much
Speaker 1: talk about Noah Brown. We talked about the coordinator yesterday.
Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot of different things. We've had
Speaker 1: some conversation about the defense. But quite frankly, I think
Speaker 1: j Ron Curse hit the nail on the head. That
Speaker 1: game on Sunday was about the defense, not being what
Speaker 1: we thought they were because what we saw early in
Speaker 1: the season, they were giving up less than twenty points
Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, you're given up that few points. Thirty
Speaker 1: four should be again a way to comfortably win this game.
Speaker 1: Question for you guys is is it as simple as
Speaker 1: the personnel's personnel that they've lost or do you think
Speaker 1: there's something deeper going on with this defense. I think
Speaker 1: the answer is both. I do. I do think that.
Speaker 1: I'm never one to say, well, that's just an excuse
Speaker 1: about injuries. No injuries matter. That's why people get paid
Speaker 1: differently in the league, because some people are just better
Speaker 1: than others. And so it's okay to say that they're
Speaker 1: they're hurting, especially when you keep having the injuries at
Speaker 1: the same position. So it's a tough one at cornerback
Speaker 1: right now, and it's and it's been a struggle. But
Speaker 1: I do think, and I'll let Brian speak to this
Speaker 1: even more about I think that teams are figuring out
Speaker 1: some ways to kind of neutralize Micah Parsons and neutralize
Speaker 1: them things that the Cowboys do the best. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you're right about that. I will say this for
Speaker 1: Jern Curse, one of the most guttiest goal line stands
Speaker 1: I've ever seen to win a game, you know, and
Speaker 1: in a game that it was a one and eleven
Speaker 1: team you're playing, but you needed to find a way
Speaker 1: to win in this game. Yeah, that game could have
Speaker 1: just been an absolute disaster if you lose that and
Speaker 1: defense those an interception, the balls on the eight yard line,
Speaker 1: and you goal line stand and get them the ball back.
Speaker 1: So I see what Curse is doing here. He's a
Speaker 1: stand up guy. This defense is really really banged up.
Speaker 1: But the first half of the season, they've got you
Speaker 1: to this point. They've got you to the point where
Speaker 1: you're now in the tournament. You know, you won games
Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback because of your defense. This is
Speaker 1: about the offense. Now, I'll keep saying this. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're really beat up and compromised, somebody else has
Speaker 1: to pick things up. I need to hear offensive players saying, listen,
Speaker 1: we got to help our defense here. You know they're
Speaker 1: beat up over there a little bit, but we'll pick
Speaker 1: this thing up. I heard drunk. I heard Curse talking
Speaker 1: about defense needs to play better. I didn't heard anything
Speaker 1: about the offense needs to play better. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't you know they asked Dak the questions about
Speaker 1: turnovers and stuff. I need to be better, I need
Speaker 1: to stay, don't need to be aggressive, need to think
Speaker 1: about things. You know. It's now time for the offense,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're they're too beat up to play
Speaker 1: the way they need to play. And Nick, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you acknowledging the thing about how teams have figured some
Speaker 1: things out here. Absolutely they have. They figured out that,
Speaker 1: you know what, we could paralyze this defense with with
Speaker 1: movement and with you know, with deception and counters and
Speaker 1: play with their eyes. And when they play with their eyes,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys aren't as good a defense because they're not
Speaker 1: always discipline enough to play. And maybe that's the thing
Speaker 1: that bothers me the most about it, because you're going
Speaker 1: to see teams continue to run counters and boots and waggles,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna make you have to defend the whole
Speaker 1: field that way. But this is really about the offense now.
Speaker 1: It's about the offense not turning over the football and
Speaker 1: figuring out how to win these games when this defense
Speaker 1: is compromised. Because I don't think it's gonna get any better.
Speaker 1: You'll have some guys like Blanding. Those guys probably play better,
Speaker 1: but some of these other guys they brought in need
Speaker 1: to step up as well, but also too foul or armstrong. Yep, Bohannah,
Speaker 1: you guys have got to figure out something. Did not
Speaker 1: let blockers get up on these linebackers that are having
Speaker 1: problems too. You know, I was thinking it came to
Speaker 1: my head. I'm like, Okay, is what happened to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense last year in the second half of the year.
Speaker 1: Now happening to the Cowboys defense this year? Like on
Speaker 1: the flip side, you know, how they figure something out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like the last year, the offense was working really, really
Speaker 1: good and in second half of the season they just
Speaker 1: kinda weren't producing as they should. And now that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily fair to say about the defense completely because you
Speaker 1: have to take into account the amount of injuries. The
Speaker 1: offense last year was pretty healthy towards the end of
Speaker 1: the year. But you talk about being able to respond
Speaker 1: differently with things that you've gotten glimpse off throughout the season.
Speaker 1: For example, run the offense. That has been the one
Speaker 1: problem that they consistently had since the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: and they haven't. Necessarily. They even started to improve there,
Speaker 1: but it never really fully clicked to where they have
Speaker 1: a definite solution to it and how to respond to
Speaker 1: how to stop the run. Now you knew what you
Speaker 1: had with Kelvin Joseph. I mean, I just don't understand
Speaker 1: how you get to this point to where he was
Speaker 1: your best man available and you're playing him out there,
Speaker 1: and now you're sitting here, freaking what week is that
Speaker 1: into December? We're about to be in Christmas. You're sitting
Speaker 1: here in the end of December trying to have a
Speaker 1: cornerback competition. And again, not that you expected Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: to go down, not that you expected expected Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: to go down either, but you do expect everybody else
Speaker 1: that's down the line as a backup to be preparing
Speaker 1: as if the moment was to come. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: how I assume they handle these practices. You don't just
Speaker 1: dismiss the guys are down the depth chart. You keep
Speaker 1: working them out. But the point is, like, it sucks
Speaker 1: that we're sitting here about to have like a cornerback competition,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, Okay, who's the best man to
Speaker 1: go out there? And they have addressed some things with
Speaker 1: the signing of some veteran guys. But it's just it's
Speaker 1: the way that And I love dan Quinn, but I
Speaker 1: do feel disappointed right now because I thought so highly
Speaker 1: of him and I still do. But the way he's
Speaker 1: handled the past couple of weeks, it's just I expect
Speaker 1: the better from him. What did you What did you
Speaker 1: want different? Because I look at dan Quinn and I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's trying. I think he's trying and throwing things like
Speaker 1: he knew the run defensive problem. They went out, they
Speaker 1: got Hankins. Hankins gets hurt. They like he is. He's
Speaker 1: looking for solutions here. He's trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to make it all work together. Then there's a time
Speaker 1: he had to move Michael a linebacker and made that
Speaker 1: move and then realize, well, we're not getting any pass
Speaker 1: rush one. I don't have him at defense. So he's trying.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you would want him to do different.
Speaker 1: At some point, the players, Nick, you talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: At some point the players just got to do their
Speaker 1: jobs right. No, You're absolutely right. I think it comes
Speaker 1: down to the players and to the talent itself, because
Speaker 1: you've seen that and Quinn throw guys in there. You
Speaker 1: talk about Sam Williams when he was first thrown in there,
Speaker 1: he responded to that he did good. You talked about
Speaker 1: Darren Blind throwing him out there. He responded to that
Speaker 1: did good. Now I guess, yes, I guess you do
Speaker 1: have to put it. You gotta give him credit for Armstrong.
Speaker 1: They got rid resolutely, they got rid of, they got
Speaker 1: rid of, you know, they got Gregory Gregory, and then
Speaker 1: they put they say, well, hey, no, this guy's just
Speaker 1: as good and he's had a great eye for the
Speaker 1: talent development. But I guess he might have missed on Joseph.
Speaker 1: On Joseph, and I honestly it seems like it definitely
Speaker 1: missed on Joseph. Yeah, And that seems to me like
Speaker 1: that's one of those things where and Brian, you've worked
Speaker 1: in personnel, so you could speak to this, but you're
Speaker 1: not gonna go one hundred percent. And this is one
Speaker 1: where I bet right now the people that were in
Speaker 1: the room saying I think we can get something out
Speaker 1: of Joseph or right now, like man, we might have
Speaker 1: messed this one up. Like it happens like that's that's
Speaker 1: where I mean, I come on this show and I apologize,
Speaker 1: I love you, I just have to talk this out.
Speaker 1: But yes, it comes down to the player and the
Speaker 1: talent that I'm not a fan of right now. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, I, as the former personnel guy,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, do this with Joseph, do this with Joseph,
Speaker 1: do this, and then you see things not work and
Speaker 1: you're like, man, maybe they that was a mess up
Speaker 1: on our part. Personal guys. We'll wear that one. We'll
Speaker 1: wear that one. But the thing about it is now,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, you need something to change, and
Speaker 1: now you really you're you're just searching for that change.
Speaker 1: I mean, they need to get back to being able
Speaker 1: to rush the passer. That's number one. That's their strength.
Speaker 1: Because I've said this before. If they don't rush the passer,
Speaker 1: they're very ordinary defense because their secondary can't hold up,
Speaker 1: especially with the way it's configured now, it can't hold
Speaker 1: up well enough. And you know the other thing I'll
Speaker 1: say is just in this team in general, one thing
Speaker 1: I love about this coaching staff, and it goes offense
Speaker 1: defense too. They are not we saw for a lot
Speaker 1: of years with Jason Garrett. They would have a player
Speaker 1: and he would be struggling and they would be like,
Speaker 1: it's going to keep going with and they'll keep going
Speaker 1: with him. And you're watching and you get a guy
Speaker 1: that's that tackle that gives up six sacks in a
Speaker 1: game like that happens, right, what we've seen is it
Speaker 1: happened with Josh Ball. He had those two mistakes. They're like,
Speaker 1: get somebody else in there, Like, let's get him out.
Speaker 1: Maybe you just need to have a break Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: last week two touchdowns, all right, get him out. We
Speaker 1: need to get somebody else in there. I actually applaud
Speaker 1: the fact they're not gonna just sit on it and say, well,
Speaker 1: somehow miraculously, the guys just gonna play better, right, Like,
Speaker 1: get somebody else. And so for them to have a
Speaker 1: cornerback controversy, I mean, a cornerback competition at this point.
Speaker 1: It's not ideal, but it's better than the alternative of saying,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna trust that Joseph is going to get better.
Speaker 1: I'd rather than bring in these vets and say, let's
Speaker 1: just throw what we can throw at it at this point,
Speaker 1: and let's see how we can get better in this situation.
Speaker 1: You're also you don't seem to here about what the
Speaker 1: what the draft picks status is, and that not in
Speaker 1: terms of playing now, in terms of keeping him. That's fine,
Speaker 1: then that's always going to be the case. But you know,
Speaker 1: Chaz Green was a was a top one hundred pick
Speaker 1: and they wanted to see what he could do. And
Speaker 1: tell Vin Joseph is a second round pick, and you
Speaker 1: know it's not. It's not working out. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that anyone cares right now of what draft status is.
Speaker 1: Even Jerry on the radio and asked about him yesterday said,
Speaker 1: you know what, sometimes draft picks take a little longer
Speaker 1: to develop. He didn't call him a bus but he
Speaker 1: said sometimes it doesn't mean even if you're a high pick,
Speaker 1: it takes longer for you to develop. Ye. All right,
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I'll talk Philadelphia offense versus Dallas defense
Speaker 1: in this final ten minutes of the show. McCarthy said
Speaker 1: earlier this week, the Dallas is going to prepare for
Speaker 1: both quarterbacks. My question for you guys, how difficult is that?
Speaker 1: How difficult is it when you have to prepare for
Speaker 1: two different quarterbacks, particularly at that position. I would prepare
Speaker 1: for Hurts first, is what I would do. I would
Speaker 1: I would try and and and just because that's going
Speaker 1: to be the harder of the prep because if all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, if you see that now, they can
Speaker 1: also gauge this. You know, you practice, you know yesterday,
Speaker 1: you practice today, you practice, you know thirty, So you're
Speaker 1: going to see during the week the progression of whether
Speaker 1: he practices or not. If Hurts keeps not practicing, then
Speaker 1: every day I'm going like preparing for two, preparing for two,
Speaker 1: preparing for one, preparing for one. That's what I would do,
Speaker 1: just as I read the injury report. But the harder
Speaker 1: of the preparation will be for hurt. So make sure
Speaker 1: you take care of that, you know, Nick sirianni uh
Speaker 1: he was, he was like, hey's this guy's Wolverine. He's
Speaker 1: got superpowers, he can regenerate body parts. You know. I'm like, well, geez,
Speaker 1: and put him out there for the US military. I mean, neck,
Speaker 1: he can save the world, you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But you can tell I don't really like Nick Sirianni
Speaker 1: very much. But the thing about it a lot, I
Speaker 1: don't want to call him what his shady called, you know,
Speaker 1: our guy. So but anyway, I would prepare for hurts.
Speaker 1: Let's get I'm not all about I'm about doing my
Speaker 1: homework to try and and and I'll tax watch games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually watch games, and I do it for this
Speaker 1: show too. This is this is gonna be tough though.
Speaker 1: And we all know this. We all, I mean we've
Speaker 1: we know the Philadelphia Eagles enough to know the AJ
Speaker 1: Browns and Smith at wide receiver, and you know what
Speaker 1: they bring. The offensive line, Jordan My alot of Landing Dickerson.
Speaker 1: They they've they're they're outstanding. It's a it's a group
Speaker 1: that when they with hurts, it's a hard offense to
Speaker 1: stop because of the thread of the running corps back,
Speaker 1: that ability just to take the snap on second and
Speaker 1: ten and run for a first down or break a pocket,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's about discipline. It's about it's about
Speaker 1: the ability, and it's very simplistic to say it's about tackling.
Speaker 1: It's about getting bodies to the ball and getting guys
Speaker 1: on the ground, and you know they got back. We'll
Speaker 1: see how much they get out of Dallas Goddard. But
Speaker 1: when we played the previous time, Dallas Goddard was the
Speaker 1: big screen pass guy. You know that's people do not
Speaker 1: want to Now if Gardner Minshew's the quarterback, I will
Speaker 1: feel like that they're going to You're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of Sanders, You're gonna see a lot of Gainwell,
Speaker 1: the running. I don't know if you'll see the quarterback
Speaker 1: run as much. I don't think you'll see the quarterback
Speaker 1: behind him as Ian books, so you know they've got
Speaker 1: guys that can kind of do the offense, but I
Speaker 1: don't think you'll see the element of the quarterback running
Speaker 1: the ball like you do with Hurts. So if that's
Speaker 1: the case, then be ready, be ready for the backs,
Speaker 1: be ready for the screen game. They do a lot
Speaker 1: of combination routes. When I talk about that, it's the
Speaker 1: you know, the vertical and then the outs behind it.
Speaker 1: They kind of work little route combinations and they make
Speaker 1: it really easy for Hurts just to have to throw
Speaker 1: the ball, and they kind of tick down the field.
Speaker 1: And they could also hit you with the home run ball.
Speaker 1: With with Smith, I mean he could he could fly.
Speaker 1: Brown can get down the field. They're really good blocking
Speaker 1: up front. It's an athletic big line. The movement and
Speaker 1: all that will be a problem for you in this game.
Speaker 1: And like I said, they're coming into this game really
Speaker 1: really healthy. Other than at quarterback, you've watched obviously several games, Brian,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. Let's assume it hurts plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you been able to because I think right now
Speaker 1: he's playing on a level where he's really m VP status.
Speaker 1: That is how he's playing right now. People can say
Speaker 1: what they want to say about him. He's playing at
Speaker 1: that level. Have you find an area found an area
Speaker 1: of his game where you think that you think is
Speaker 1: exploitable and that's something that Dallas's defense can actually exploit.
Speaker 1: He when he when you have turnovers and games, you
Speaker 1: know in this in this last game and he against
Speaker 1: the Bears, he threw two interceptions and both of them
Speaker 1: were off balance, moving backwards, kind of not feet planted throws.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm not gonna say he's going to get greedy,
Speaker 1: but sometimes he trust his arm a little more than
Speaker 1: he probably should. So if you're trusting your arm, when
Speaker 1: he could stand there and throw, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: game on for him. But when you get him kind
Speaker 1: of falling back sideways making him have to make a
Speaker 1: he'll make some bad decisions. He gets away with some
Speaker 1: bad decisions too, But the Bears made him pay for
Speaker 1: a couple. But balls were floated into areas where, bro,
Speaker 1: why'd you throw that? You know what we're looking at
Speaker 1: where he was trying to make that Almost like with Dak.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we see Dak that you know, he's trying to
Speaker 1: make the big play to Tony Pollard down the sidelines
Speaker 1: instead of hitting Noah Brown dragon underneath on third down
Speaker 1: to get the first you know, he tries to hit
Speaker 1: the I think that's the thing with hurts when his
Speaker 1: feet aren't set. I think it's a problem for him
Speaker 1: because I don't know if he gets enough on the ball,
Speaker 1: and then his decision making could be a little a
Speaker 1: little a little wonky there too. And we said it
Speaker 1: all along that you know with digs can cover you
Speaker 1: know pretty much anyone it's that second receiver. You feel
Speaker 1: like that they have the best second receiver in the
Speaker 1: league in in DeVante Smith. Yeah, for the combination. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing about the thing about the combination too. But
Speaker 1: but I mean you just talk about the second receivers.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've played some teams that have had some
Speaker 1: good in Minnesota has a couple of good receivers. But
Speaker 1: you're in a you're in a in this situation. Smith
Speaker 1: is like he's so it's like his routes are like
Speaker 1: big play routes. It's not like, oh, let's catch a
Speaker 1: screen and just kind of go or oh it's a
Speaker 1: little slammer. Oh, It's just it is like deep or
Speaker 1: a cross or down the field, and when he catches
Speaker 1: the ball, it's generally a big play. That's the thing
Speaker 1: that makes him so great at you know, as a
Speaker 1: second receiver, you got a big old A J. Brown.
Speaker 1: It's gonna just do a lot of the inside stuff,
Speaker 1: catch the ball underneath, you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And then you got Smith. It's just gonna clear and
Speaker 1: go and then they're gonna take a shot because oh wait,
Speaker 1: we're karn a J. Brown here. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you got the clear that's open, and now they hit
Speaker 1: the ball all the way down the field because they're
Speaker 1: getting the protection to throw the ball. So he is
Speaker 1: outstanding just for the big play aspect of the I
Speaker 1: mean justin you know, making those kinds of catches. He's
Speaker 1: one of the best. Um we've taken kind of a
Speaker 1: break from like the amount of penalties that the cow
Speaker 1: was getting. You call it, we take a break. I
Speaker 1: called him out for that, so I might have to
Speaker 1: call him out again to keep it going. My question
Speaker 1: for you was gonna be, like, do you think that
Speaker 1: on defense? Because now you're trying to make up for
Speaker 1: the type of game you put out last week and
Speaker 1: you're trying to get these guys, and these guys are
Speaker 1: trying to like make PLAYCE tackled here and that did
Speaker 1: they now become a little more Uh, what's the worstest
Speaker 1: passive accessible susceptible making those types of mistakes that now
Speaker 1: you're kind of drawing penalty calls on yourself. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was really worried about uh, you know, uh, with Joseph
Speaker 1: playing in press coverage, you know, I was really kind
Speaker 1: of worried about him if getting holding penalties and things
Speaker 1: like that. I was checking to see real quick if
Speaker 1: you if I knew who the crew was for this game,
Speaker 1: because sometimes I could tell because last week's game there
Speaker 1: these the the official Sean Smith's crew was very much
Speaker 1: unnecessary roughness. Had one of those. You had one of
Speaker 1: those in the game, you know with Williams. They were
Speaker 1: very much defensive holding and defensive PI and they were
Speaker 1: also OPI offensive passenger for which they didn't call in
Speaker 1: the game at all. There was a couple of different
Speaker 1: opportunities where they could where they could have definitely uh
Speaker 1: you know taken. They could have called it on Jacksonville
Speaker 1: for a push off. I felt like Joseph got pushed.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of different times routes Kirk got
Speaker 1: Kirk pushed one time that they could have they could
Speaker 1: have called so uh yeah, it just makes it. I
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of it's a lot to do
Speaker 1: with with what the crew is, what the cruise going on.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that's a yeah, they don't
Speaker 1: have the cruise up yet. Who's who's ref in this
Speaker 1: game yet? So but yeah, but you know, tomorrow we'll
Speaker 1: come in here or we'll talk about it, and I'll
Speaker 1: be able to tell you like, hey, you need to
Speaker 1: worry about these penalties this week. But I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have done a really good job the pre snaps stuff.
Speaker 1: That's the stuff I think that kills this team a lot.
Speaker 1: About twenty eight penalties and three games in November, including
Speaker 1: thirteen in the in the uh Thanksgiving the game, but
Speaker 1: three games in November, twenty eight penalties, three games in
Speaker 1: December nine eight eight, Yeah, yeah, Alex, Alex camping is
Speaker 1: reasoning or thought in this whole thing is because you're
Speaker 1: you know, this is a huge game for you. Now
Speaker 1: you're maybe just trying too hard to make the play
Speaker 1: or whatever word. Now you become a little reckless in
Speaker 1: that aspect to now you're drawing some pen like unnecessary
Speaker 1: penalties on yourself. It just just the thought that in
Speaker 1: case some of these younger guys or whatever, uh where,
Speaker 1: that could maybe become a problem again, even though they're
Speaker 1: taking a short break from that. You know, another thing
Speaker 1: about this Cowboys defense, Um, the last two games they've
Speaker 1: given up there, they've they've allowed their opponents to have
Speaker 1: a season high in third down percentage in Houston at
Speaker 1: forty six point seven. That barely was the most. But
Speaker 1: then Jacksonville sixty six point wow. Yeah, eight out of
Speaker 1: getting off the field. Yeah, and so you know, and
Speaker 1: that and a lot of that too, is the running
Speaker 1: to keep it manageable. Yeah, stay ahead of the chains bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of one of the cliches we always talk about,
Speaker 1: but in this case, it's staying ahead of the chains
Speaker 1: works for teams who are playing the Cowboys right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys to join us. We're back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're gonna jump into Philadelphia as a defense versus the
Speaker 1: Dallas offense, and we're gonna wrap it up. It's gonna
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