WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: One or Two? 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.480 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:17.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys let go. Are 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.640 you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.760 a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.640 much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:35.320 Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:52.120 bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Oh Okay is Wednesday, December 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.279 twenty first, twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number ninety four. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.640 Welcome the latest edition of The Break live from the 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.640 s WBC Mortgage Studios at the right. We' presented by 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.760 Milla like the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Thank 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.280 you our our producer Chris Beam for bringing a little 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.920 holiday cheer with some good Christmas music there. That was good. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.920 That was pretty good stuff. Yeah yeah, nice little beat 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.959 to it. Do you like it? Sure? Sure? It was outstanding? 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.399 What good? What was all this Greek stuff? Nothing? I'm 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:18.800 just trying to make sure you're in a good mood 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.280 for Christmas. You calling me a grant, I know sometimes 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.360 you're sometimes just not as people used to call me 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.120 Saint Nick all the time, like for other reasons. I'm saying, 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.240 I mean, for what other reasons? I'm just because I'm 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:36.759 saying that you put sat with Nick. No, we covered 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.800 the Saint last. Okay, may be there again. Welcome to 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.440 the show. Appreciate you guys joining us today. We're talking 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:47.279 Cowboys versus Eagles. Today we're gonna get into the Eagles 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.640 offense versus the Dallas defense. We'll talk some more about 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.760 this defense too. I know jay Ron Curse has some 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.600 things to say yesterday I thought were really interesting. But 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.280 let's start first. I want to look at a big 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.240 just the bigger picture around the Philadelphia game. I think 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.640 all of us coming into maybe let's say two weeks ago, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.560 we had this game kind of circled on the calendar 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.560 as this is going to be a real telltell game, 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.080 it is going to be an important game. And then 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.119 the Cowboys lose last weekend and you're in a situation 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.720 where basically Dallas has to win out and Philly has 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.799 to lose out in order for you to in order 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.520 for Dallas to be able to have a shot at 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.320 the at the NFC East title. But despite all that, 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.880 they actually already clinched a playoff spot. My question for 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.959 you guys is how important is this game at this point? 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:39.960 Very important, very important because you're not playing great football 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.200 right now and you need to figure out. I mean, 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.160 this is the time you're to start doing that. And 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.280 I think that that. I mean, this is going to 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.560 be a very very tough matchup, and I think it's 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.239 I think it's very it's important because and also you 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.480 need to be the number five seed. There's no doubt 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.400 about it. You've got to be the five. The difference 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:01.079 between playing at Tampa or Carolina or atlant or whoever 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:05.880 New Orleans is way different than playing at Minnesota or 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:11.799 San Francisco. Yeah, really Minnesota. No. I think it's absolutely 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.959 an important game. And the problem that you're you know, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.480 that you're running into is that you need to play 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.119 like a team that's really desperate. You need to I'm 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.120 one of these guys that always believes in the desperate 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:26.920 team theory. And to Nick's point, you know the Jacksonville game, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.359 the way it ended, it's a bad way that you 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.480 had that game in hand, You're up, you know the team, 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.680 you know you had him beat, and you just couldn't 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.080 finish the game like you finished the game the week before. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.200 I think they need to develop some consistency the last 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.520 three games. I think all these next three games are 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.040 really now it might not be important as far as 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.960 um you know where it looks in the standard I understand, 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.520 like Nick's right about where the seating is. You you 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.280 want to go to one of these NFC South teams. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:54.840 You do not want to have to go back up 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.400 to Minneapolis and let them figure all that out again. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.320 So to me, yeah, but you need to find a 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:04.240 way to not just be spewing oil going into the playoffs. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.560 You know, you need you need, Yeah, I mean it's 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.880 a racing term. I mean, you don't you know, you're 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.480 you're you're running well, all of a sudden, you know, 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.280 the break hub in the twenty four hours, the role 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.279 X twenty four let's go, and now you're not winning 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.119 the race anymore. You know, that's my experience of racing. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.240 And so to me, the Cowboys are in that same way. Yeah, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.880 they're probably not going to win the division, but finish 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.599 this thing out, you know, if you can steal rest 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.360 whatever you have to do, I know, but you need 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.440 to be playing your absolute best. You look at the 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.240 teams that have had success in the playoffs, it's the 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.080 ones that are scrambling their ass off. And there's that 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.559 word ass again that you know, you're scrambling your ass 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.760 off to get into, you know, the postseason, and you're 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.440 battle tested, and you every week is a playoff game. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.520 I kind of feel like the Cowboys need to treat 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.080 these games like playoff games, you know, I mean, you know, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.080 find your best way, get some consistency, have something to 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.280 be able to hang your had on when you have 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.560 to go play in that first round. To me, this 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.239 game has been the most important game since I believe 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.560 it was Week six when they last played the Eagles. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.360 Since then, I've been looking forward to this game anxiously 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.800 because they were so close. And I don't care who 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.200 the quarterback is for them this week, and it does 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.479 not matter. The Cowboys need to go out there and win. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.320 They're at home. If they don't win this, I mean, 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.880 it just it does change your tune on what this 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:35.160 team can even do in the playoffs. Just talk about 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.240 moral victories. This is exactly what this would be for 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.520 the Cowboys. They need to lift their head up and 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.720 beat them and beat them good. I don't if they do, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.520 I don't want it to be a close game either, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.960 Like Yes, it'd be nice if they would go out 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.600 there and win, but it'd be great if they can 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.359 just like take over them and show things that they 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.239 haven't been able to show in the past two weeks, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.960 like areas of improvement, because that gives you hope on 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.800 what's to come, like especially on defense. If they start 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.640 doing certain things, even let's say it's a close game, 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:08.960 but they do certain things like in the running game, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.200 with the secondary things that give you hope in like, Okay, 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.840 there's some hope there. They can improve in the next 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.840 few weeks, and then in the playoffs they can be 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.000 a lot better than what we've seen, especially this last week. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.000 So those are the things that I'm looking at. But 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.640 they definitely need to go out there at at and 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.160 T Stadium and beat the Eagles. You guys, think it's 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.880 a realistic thing at this point at all? Even if 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.640 let's assume for a second that that Hurts is going 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.880 to be out for one, two, maybe three games, Do 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.440 you think it's at all realistic that Dallas can somehow 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.240 pull three wins together and the Philly loses three or 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.320 is this really just playing for the fifth seed? No, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.760 I don't believe that. I don't. I don't believe they 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.760 can do that. I mean that you're basically you're saying 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:54.640 that six things have to happen, and really don't have 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.640 to have six because you got one of them, one 0:06:56.680 --> 0:07:00.560 of them goes together. But now he just said it, 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.800 you need they need to established some consistency. I find 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.239 it hard to believe the Cowboys could win three straight 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:10.480 games at this point right now, especially when it's just 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.200 it's just so hard to keep everyone healthy. I'd have 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.280 a hard time thinking that. And then I also think, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.520 I don't think you go thirteen and one and then 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.360 lose three in a row. I mean, the Eagles are 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.040 a good football team and they're not gonna lose three. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.240 I'll say this though about that, that I never thought 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.960 i'd see a team come back from thirty four points 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.400 down in a football game with five minutes left to 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.560 go and basically in the you know, third and all 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:36.760 of a sudden their rallying. That's the NFL, I always say, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.080 the Minnesota game. Yeah, the strange lady thing. I mean, 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.280 I just believe this the saving grace that you might 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.559 have in this game, or this the way this season 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.960 is going to end or could end. You get a 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.040 victory the Saints the following week or playing against philadelph 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.320 they're playing for a division title. They are they are 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.200 fighting to try in a bad division. They're trying to 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.280 get just if they can find a way to get 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.800 you know, one game, two more. Yeah, if they find 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.560 a way to get two more victories, maybe they win 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.160 this division. So you got you got the Giants who 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.440 beat the Commanders either now they're trying to play. You know, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.240 you've got teams that aren't have the you know, the 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.120 U haul in the parking lot and there got one 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.920 foot in the parking lot and one foot in the 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.200 locker room. You know, you've got teams that legitimately playing 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.520 the Eagles that are trying to win football games. And 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.600 that's maybe you're not good enough. Maybe you're the you know, 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.840 maybe you're the Giants and you're not good enough. And 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.280 maybe you're the Saints and you're not good enough. But 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.800 that's at least your hope. And they got But on 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.200 the flip side, though, the Cowboys also face those teams 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.920 as well. Tennessee will be fighting exactly and the Commanders. Yeah, 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.920 so yeah, it works both ways. So like you said, 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.440 if you can find the consistency to beat these teams 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.599 to get in and all of a sudden you're on 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.880 a high going in and they're on a downward slide. 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.640 You know that that momentum is huge in the playoffs, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.679 It really really is. I mean, if my Ka Parsons 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.559 analysis is right, then I guess the quarterback sho didn't 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:08.240 really matter matter that whole life. I'm just saying. I'm 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.880 just saying these if it's scheme wise and what they're 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.920 doing just offensively with the kind of plays are calling, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.520 and she still work for them. Well, but here's the thing, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.920 And that's that's the part I wonder about for Philadelphia. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.520 And we'll see how how hurt the shoulder is, like, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.920 we don't really know. We'll find out a lot about 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.640 that by how much they're willing to play him and 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.400 if they change what they do schematically, because when you 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.400 think about it, their scheme probably does have to change. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.839 I think what makes them so dangerous offensively is the 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.200 fact that that quarterback can run, run, and he can 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.839 run physically, And I wonder if the shoulder really is 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.760 a problem, even if he plays, does it make them say, hey, 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.320 we're going to call a few less of those plays 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.960 where he's actually running the ball and maybe he's going 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.760 to run the ball a little bit differently. We've seen 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.760 him with Dack Nick. You talk about it all the time. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.599 In order for Dallas to be successful, Dak has to 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.120 be the Dack from twenty sixteen and seventeen where he 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.839 was an aggressive runner. He took what was there and 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:00.839 if you were coming to attack, you better bring you 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.360 better bring your hat right. So it's it's that kind 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.480 of thing where it does make me think, are they 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.000 will they have to change schematically what they're able to do, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.800 what they're doing offensively, and if they are, can they 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.040 be as successful? Can they take advantage of all those 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.280 opportunities and all those skill players that they have with 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.040 a Gardner Minshew who doesn't give you that same running ability, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.920 maybe some running ability, but not the same kind of 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.520 running ability that Jalen Hurts does. I keep thinking back 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:29.040 at the Houston game and them changing quarterbacks and kind 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.640 of how what that did to the Cowboys defense. I mean, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.880 it threw them off completely, I think for the Cowboys 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.360 defense where they didn't really know how to answer against 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.200 the switch at the quarterback position. So it just keeps 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.240 it's gonna be a tough game, regardless who goes out 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.280 there in plays, is just gonna be a tough game 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.120 for the Cowboys. I think the running quarterback gives some problems. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.880 I think it's the misdirection that gives them even more problems. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.480 I agree with that. I think it's the they do 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.560 not handle movement going one way and then being able 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.360 to react. They're they're so trained and go get it. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.680 That movement gives them problems. Then all of a sudden, 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.439 movement turns into big lineman in front and pullers and 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.000 you know, guys like that. And so the running Cormack. 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.200 I mean, you watch Hurts play. They got him hurt. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.960 I mean they did they as much as they run him. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.760 They you know, you kind of figured something like this 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.080 was gonna happen, that he's gonna you know, it might 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.719 not be a separation or a spread, whatever it is. 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.679 But the way that they run him like he's like 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.000 a power. It's like a power running game with him. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.680 It's a direct snap, it's pullers, it's him taking off running. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.640 You know, he breaks the pocket, he runs. What happens 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.079 he gets whacked in the middle of the field, shoulder, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.360 everything going into the ground. You know, that's your guy 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.040 right there. And their offense, like you said, Derek, is 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.280 based on his ability to take the ball and run 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:55.000 it in certain situations. But if you're the Eagles, wouldn't 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.480 you want to just set him out like you're in 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:02.600 the playoffs already? Like it doesn't seem smart. And I'm 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.679 not saying Jalen hurts whether he wants to play or not, 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.439 him as a player, you as a head coach, and 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.880 you as a team, wouldn't you want him to just 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.480 sit down? Heal? And now they put him in the 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.679 situation they really did. Yeah, But I mean I think 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.480 that that makes sense. The only issue you said I 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.800 think about for them is they have not clinched that 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.800 number one seed, and the number one seed gets a 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.920 huge advantage. They're the only team that won't be playing 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.640 on wildcard weekend, and so until they clinched that, if 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.760 I were them, I would be like, we gotta do 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.280 that first, and so we gotta give ourselves the best 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.599 chance to win there. Yeah. But to her point, is 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.199 is it better to sit now and get ready to 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.880 play next week against the Saints? You know, like he 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.440 sits this week, A lot can happen. If if Jalen hurts, 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.320 sits this week and the Cowboys win, and then they 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.520 go and say, okay, now he's better, he's rested, he 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.800 goes and they beat the Saints. If that happens that 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.679 scenario where they lose to the Cowboys without him and 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.800 he goes and beats the Saints, they could rest him 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.320 the next week. You could rest him the next week 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.800 and he wins the MVP. He wins the MVP right there, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.680 because you see the value with him. Does the same 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.719 thing happen? If they win this week, they get to 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.600 put on those hats that you talked about right there 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.400 at at and T Stadium. They I think they may 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.440 clinch at that point the number one seed. They get 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.360 all that done this week, and then they got two weeks. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.400 But you're taking week risk. You're taking a huge risk. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.199 Let's say he injuries, yes, because he's already banked up right, Well, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.199 it depends on how that's that's the part. We don't 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.080 know how serious this injury is, and so yes, you're right, 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.000 if it's a serious injury. I know this. If my 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.560 shoulder hurts, I don't want to throw it fifty times. Yeah, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.719 I don't want to get hit again and then you're 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.000 screwed for whatever is to come into playoffs. I'm just 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.840 saying like, it just seems that the risk versus reward 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.760 doesn't seem worth it. If I'm them, let's say the 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.319 same situation was happening with Dak, I would not want 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.439 to play doc this weekend, sit him down, and let's 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.839 see for next week. I'm just I'm more on the 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:08.360 let's let's be saved. I would be if I was them, 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.599 I would be confident they can win this game with 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:16.240 Gardner Minshew at quarterback too. Yeah, this defense. This usually 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.760 when you play the Eagles late in the year, three 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.200 of their five offensive linemen are on the injured list. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.000 It's not the case. All five of these guys are 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.440 clean and ready to go. You get Dallas Goddard back, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.560 you got Sanders Gainwell, Boston Scott, you got running backs, 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.720 you got the defense. It's you know, Cowboys won four 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:38.000 or five games. Cowboys beat Cincinnati with the backup quarterback. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.600 This team can beat you with Gardner Minshew at quarterback. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.400 That's that's the thing. It's not like that they're the 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.800 Cowboys are dealing with a lot of stuff. Injury wise, 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.840 this team isn't and that's why they got the record 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.120 they do. And one of the reasons why they might 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.080 think that is exactly what jay Ron Curse tucked about 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.360 yesterday with the Gardner defense. We're gonna take a first break. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.000 When we come back, we're gonna talk about some of 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.880 those comments and how right he is, or if you 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.760 guys disagree, we'll talk about them we come back. 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Stop by 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.960 the nearest store or log onto dot Dallas Cowboys dot 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.680 Com a fanatics experience and score holiday shopping winning touchdown. 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:31.879 Welcome back. Second segment of the Break Life in the 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.320 s WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, this segment brought 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.720 to you by blockchain dot Com. Let's talk about j 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.639 Ron Curse. He had some interesting comments to that he 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:44.639 made yesterday of the media about the defense. Chris, you hey, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.160 I think you have that pulled up for us. Let's 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.440 take a listen right now. You know we talked about 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.160 bend it's one of the best defenses in the league. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.439 In the past two weeks, we haven't shown it at all, 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.240 So I mean you are what you put on tape. Yeah, 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.840 you know it just point we haven't. We haven't gotten 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.960 a job done. We haven't gotten a job done at all. 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:09.480 And just speaking solely from the defense. You know, we 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.080 scored a third or four points. So Sunday we should 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:14.879 we should come out with the victory. We should come 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:16.640 up with the victory, and it should be a comfortable 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:21.440 victim if we played the VD the defense that that 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.800 we think we are. That was j Ron Curse Safety 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.440 for the Cowboys, talking about the defense and their struggles 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.439 over the last couple of weeks. It's kind of interesting 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.320 to me that and our show is included with this. Yeah, 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.040 it seems interesting to me that coming out of this game, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.199 there's been so much talk about Dak Prescott, so much 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.919 talk about Noah Brown. We talked about the coordinator yesterday. 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:45.800 We've talked about a lot of different things. We've had 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.719 some conversation about the defense. But quite frankly, I think 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.560 j Ron Curse hit the nail on the head. That 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.760 game on Sunday was about the defense, not being what 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.840 we thought they were because what we saw early in 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.600 the season, they were giving up less than twenty points 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:02.399 a game. Yeah, you're given up that few points. Thirty 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.280 four should be again a way to comfortably win this game. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.360 Question for you guys is is it as simple as 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.439 the personnel's personnel that they've lost or do you think 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.440 there's something deeper going on with this defense. I think 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.399 the answer is both. I do. I do think that. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.640 I'm never one to say, well, that's just an excuse 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.960 about injuries. No injuries matter. That's why people get paid 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.600 differently in the league, because some people are just better 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.040 than others. And so it's okay to say that they're 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.479 they're hurting, especially when you keep having the injuries at 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.080 the same position. So it's a tough one at cornerback 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:36.960 right now, and it's and it's been a struggle. But 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.080 I do think, and I'll let Brian speak to this 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.360 even more about I think that teams are figuring out 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.600 some ways to kind of neutralize Micah Parsons and neutralize 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.159 them things that the Cowboys do the best. Yeah, I 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:49.879 think you're right about that. I will say this for 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.159 Jern Curse, one of the most guttiest goal line stands 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.000 I've ever seen to win a game, you know, and 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.520 in a game that it was a one and eleven 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.719 team you're playing, but you needed to find a way 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.680 to win in this game. Yeah, that game could have 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.040 just been an absolute disaster if you lose that and 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.520 defense those an interception, the balls on the eight yard line, 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.880 and you goal line stand and get them the ball back. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.720 So I see what Curse is doing here. He's a 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.359 stand up guy. This defense is really really banged up. 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.320 But the first half of the season, they've got you 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.560 to this point. They've got you to the point where 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:24.760 you're now in the tournament. You know, you won games 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.000 with a backup quarterback because of your defense. This is 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.960 about the offense. Now, I'll keep saying this. You know, 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:35.040 when you're really beat up and compromised, somebody else has 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:39.520 to pick things up. I need to hear offensive players saying, listen, 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.920 we got to help our defense here. You know they're 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:43.720 beat up over there a little bit, but we'll pick 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.919 this thing up. I heard drunk. I heard Curse talking 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:51.240 about defense needs to play better. I didn't heard anything 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.119 about the offense needs to play better. I don't know. 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.800 I don't you know they asked Dak the questions about 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.840 turnovers and stuff. I need to be better, I need 0:20:57.880 --> 0:20:59.959 to stay, don't need to be aggressive, need to think 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.600 about things. You know. It's now time for the offense, 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.720 you know, and they're they're too beat up to play 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:10.240 the way they need to play. And Nick, I appreciate 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.359 you acknowledging the thing about how teams have figured some 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.159 things out here. Absolutely they have. They figured out that, 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.440 you know what, we could paralyze this defense with with 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:24.480 movement and with you know, with deception and counters and 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.359 play with their eyes. And when they play with their eyes, 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:29.760 the Cowboys aren't as good a defense because they're not 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.200 always discipline enough to play. And maybe that's the thing 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.520 that bothers me the most about it, because you're going 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:39.480 to see teams continue to run counters and boots and waggles, 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.960 and they're gonna make you have to defend the whole 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:45.040 field that way. But this is really about the offense now. 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.399 It's about the offense not turning over the football and 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.800 figuring out how to win these games when this defense 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.600 is compromised. Because I don't think it's gonna get any better. 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.800 You'll have some guys like Blanding. Those guys probably play better, 0:21:57.880 --> 0:21:59.600 but some of these other guys they brought in need 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:05.600 to step up as well, but also too foul or armstrong. Yep, Bohannah, 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.320 you guys have got to figure out something. Did not 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.080 let blockers get up on these linebackers that are having 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:14.879 problems too. You know, I was thinking it came to 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.520 my head. I'm like, Okay, is what happened to the 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.880 Cowboys offense last year in the second half of the year. 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.000 Now happening to the Cowboys defense this year? Like on 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.520 the flip side, you know, how they figure something out? Yeah, 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:30.760 Like the last year, the offense was working really, really 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:32.840 good and in second half of the season they just 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.720 kinda weren't producing as they should. And now that's not 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:40.399 necessarily fair to say about the defense completely because you 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.560 have to take into account the amount of injuries. The 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:47.040 offense last year was pretty healthy towards the end of 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:51.719 the year. But you talk about being able to respond 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:57.760 differently with things that you've gotten glimpse off throughout the season. 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.320 For example, run the offense. That has been the one 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.520 problem that they consistently had since the beginning of the year, 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:09.280 and they haven't. Necessarily. They even started to improve there, 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:14.080 but it never really fully clicked to where they have 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.359 a definite solution to it and how to respond to 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.920 how to stop the run. Now you knew what you 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.080 had with Kelvin Joseph. I mean, I just don't understand 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.440 how you get to this point to where he was 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.919 your best man available and you're playing him out there, 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.960 and now you're sitting here, freaking what week is that 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.720 into December? We're about to be in Christmas. You're sitting 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:40.080 here in the end of December trying to have a 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:45.040 cornerback competition. And again, not that you expected Anthony Brown 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.240 to go down, not that you expected expected Jordan Lewis 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:53.000 to go down either, but you do expect everybody else 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.240 that's down the line as a backup to be preparing 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.960 as if the moment was to come. I mean, that's 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.119 how I assume they handle these practices. You don't just 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:06.520 dismiss the guys are down the depth chart. You keep 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.440 working them out. But the point is, like, it sucks 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.240 that we're sitting here about to have like a cornerback competition, 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.399 trying to figure out, Okay, who's the best man to 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.639 go out there? And they have addressed some things with 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:21.600 the signing of some veteran guys. But it's just it's 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:26.119 the way that And I love dan Quinn, but I 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.919 do feel disappointed right now because I thought so highly 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.960 of him and I still do. But the way he's 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:38.280 handled the past couple of weeks, it's just I expect 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.280 the better from him. What did you What did you 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.000 want different? Because I look at dan Quinn and I'm like, 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.520 he's trying. I think he's trying and throwing things like 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.199 he knew the run defensive problem. They went out, they 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.760 got Hankins. Hankins gets hurt. They like he is. He's 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.679 looking for solutions here. He's trying to figure out how 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.080 to make it all work together. Then there's a time 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.879 he had to move Michael a linebacker and made that 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.320 move and then realize, well, we're not getting any pass 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.040 rush one. I don't have him at defense. So he's trying. 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.439 I don't know what you would want him to do different. 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.080 At some point, the players, Nick, you talked about this yesterday. 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:12.919 At some point the players just got to do their 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.240 jobs right. No, You're absolutely right. I think it comes 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.600 down to the players and to the talent itself, because 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:20.560 you've seen that and Quinn throw guys in there. You 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.160 talk about Sam Williams when he was first thrown in there, 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.960 he responded to that he did good. You talked about 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.840 Darren Blind throwing him out there. He responded to that 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:33.359 did good. Now I guess, yes, I guess you do 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.840 have to put it. You gotta give him credit for Armstrong. 0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:37.919 They got rid resolutely, they got rid of, they got 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:40.239 rid of, you know, they got Gregory Gregory, and then 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.320 they put they say, well, hey, no, this guy's just 0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.240 as good and he's had a great eye for the 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.600 talent development. But I guess he might have missed on Joseph. 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.960 On Joseph, and I honestly it seems like it definitely 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:53.920 missed on Joseph. Yeah, And that seems to me like 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.000 that's one of those things where and Brian, you've worked 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.240 in personnel, so you could speak to this, but you're 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.720 not gonna go one hundred percent. And this is one 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.159 where I bet right now the people that were in 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.160 the room saying I think we can get something out 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.240 of Joseph or right now, like man, we might have 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.120 messed this one up. Like it happens like that's that's 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.560 where I mean, I come on this show and I apologize, 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:16.360 I love you, I just have to talk this out. 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.680 But yes, it comes down to the player and the 0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:20.560 talent that I'm not a fan of right now. Well, 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.560 the thing about it is, I, as the former personnel guy, 0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.840 I'm saying, well, do this with Joseph, do this with Joseph, 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.040 do this, and then you see things not work and 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.720 you're like, man, maybe they that was a mess up 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.680 on our part. Personal guys. We'll wear that one. We'll 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:36.960 wear that one. But the thing about it is now, 0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.639 it's it's you know, you need something to change, and 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.879 now you really you're you're just searching for that change. 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.080 I mean, they need to get back to being able 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.520 to rush the passer. That's number one. That's their strength. 0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.520 Because I've said this before. If they don't rush the passer, 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:57.320 they're very ordinary defense because their secondary can't hold up, 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:01.000 especially with the way it's configured now, it can't hold 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:02.680 up well enough. And you know the other thing I'll 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.840 say is just in this team in general, one thing 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.080 I love about this coaching staff, and it goes offense 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.399 defense too. They are not we saw for a lot 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.399 of years with Jason Garrett. They would have a player 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.720 and he would be struggling and they would be like, 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:16.840 it's going to keep going with and they'll keep going 0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.640 with him. And you're watching and you get a guy 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.760 that's that tackle that gives up six sacks in a 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.920 game like that happens, right, what we've seen is it 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.040 happened with Josh Ball. He had those two mistakes. They're like, 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:28.919 get somebody else in there, Like, let's get him out. 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.480 Maybe you just need to have a break Kelvin Joseph 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.520 last week two touchdowns, all right, get him out. We 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.080 need to get somebody else in there. I actually applaud 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.960 the fact they're not gonna just sit on it and say, well, 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.000 somehow miraculously, the guys just gonna play better, right, Like, 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:42.879 get somebody else. And so for them to have a 0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.600 cornerback controversy, I mean, a cornerback competition at this point. 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.680 It's not ideal, but it's better than the alternative of saying, 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.560 we're just gonna trust that Joseph is going to get better. 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.200 I'd rather than bring in these vets and say, let's 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:55.800 just throw what we can throw at it at this point, 0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.720 and let's see how we can get better in this situation. 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.680 You're also you don't seem to here about what the 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:04.159 what the draft picks status is, and that not in 0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.240 terms of playing now, in terms of keeping him. That's fine, 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:09.840 then that's always going to be the case. But you know, 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.200 Chaz Green was a was a top one hundred pick 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:13.879 and they wanted to see what he could do. And 0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.320 tell Vin Joseph is a second round pick, and you 0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.680 know it's not. It's not working out. And I don't 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.960 think that anyone cares right now of what draft status is. 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.960 Even Jerry on the radio and asked about him yesterday said, 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.800 you know what, sometimes draft picks take a little longer 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:31.639 to develop. He didn't call him a bus but he 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.200 said sometimes it doesn't mean even if you're a high pick, 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:36.879 it takes longer for you to develop. Ye. All right, 0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.440 we're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. We're 0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.920 gonna talk about the Philadelphia offense versus Dallas defense. 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Welcome Back final 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.520 segment matter they still lose? Yeah, Welcome Back final segment 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.520 of the Break Life in that subc Morgan Studios at 0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.320 the Star, presented by Milla like the only beer of 0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:10.520 the Dallas Cowboys. I'll talk Philadelphia offense versus Dallas defense 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.680 in this final ten minutes of the show. McCarthy said 0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:15.440 earlier this week, the Dallas is going to prepare for 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.840 both quarterbacks. My question for you guys, how difficult is that? 0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:19.680 How difficult is it when you have to prepare for 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:24.000 two different quarterbacks, particularly at that position. I would prepare 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.880 for Hurts first, is what I would do. I would 0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.400 I would try and and and just because that's going 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.680 to be the harder of the prep because if all 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.800 of a sudden, if you see that now, they can 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.840 also gauge this. You know, you practice, you know yesterday, 0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.360 you practice today, you practice, you know thirty, So you're 0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.440 going to see during the week the progression of whether 0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:46.480 he practices or not. If Hurts keeps not practicing, then 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:50.440 every day I'm going like preparing for two, preparing for two, 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.080 preparing for one, preparing for one. That's what I would do, 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.960 just as I read the injury report. But the harder 0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.800 of the preparation will be for hurt. So make sure 0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.320 you take care of that, you know, Nick sirianni uh 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.960 he was, he was like, hey's this guy's Wolverine. He's 0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:12.240 got superpowers, he can regenerate body parts. You know. I'm like, well, geez, 0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.520 and put him out there for the US military. I mean, neck, 0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.520 he can save the world, you know that kind of thing. 0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.760 But you can tell I don't really like Nick Sirianni 0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.800 very much. But the thing about it a lot, I 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.280 don't want to call him what his shady called, you know, 0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.400 our guy. So but anyway, I would prepare for hurts. 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.640 Let's get I'm not all about I'm about doing my 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.400 homework to try and and and I'll tax watch games. Yeah, 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:36.920 I actually watch games, and I do it for this 0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.480 show too. This is this is gonna be tough though. 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.440 And we all know this. We all, I mean we've 0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.040 we know the Philadelphia Eagles enough to know the AJ 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.240 Browns and Smith at wide receiver, and you know what 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.200 they bring. The offensive line, Jordan My alot of Landing Dickerson. 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.960 They they've they're they're outstanding. It's a it's a group 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.240 that when they with hurts, it's a hard offense to 0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.360 stop because of the thread of the running corps back, 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.480 that ability just to take the snap on second and 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:06.040 ten and run for a first down or break a pocket, 0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:09.799 you know. So it's about discipline. It's about it's about 0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.760 the ability, and it's very simplistic to say it's about tackling. 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:16.520 It's about getting bodies to the ball and getting guys 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.000 on the ground, and you know they got back. We'll 0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:20.920 see how much they get out of Dallas Goddard. But 0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.480 when we played the previous time, Dallas Goddard was the 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.120 big screen pass guy. You know that's people do not 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.919 want to Now if Gardner Minshew's the quarterback, I will 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.480 feel like that they're going to You're gonna see a 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:36.000 lot of Sanders, You're gonna see a lot of Gainwell, 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.240 the running. I don't know if you'll see the quarterback 0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.720 run as much. I don't think you'll see the quarterback 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.440 behind him as Ian books, so you know they've got 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.120 guys that can kind of do the offense, but I 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.240 don't think you'll see the element of the quarterback running 0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.239 the ball like you do with Hurts. So if that's 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:55.440 the case, then be ready, be ready for the backs, 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.279 be ready for the screen game. They do a lot 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.320 of combination routes. When I talk about that, it's the 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.239 you know, the vertical and then the outs behind it. 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.160 They kind of work little route combinations and they make 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.719 it really easy for Hurts just to have to throw 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.640 the ball, and they kind of tick down the field. 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.759 And they could also hit you with the home run ball. 0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.680 With with Smith, I mean he could he could fly. 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.760 Brown can get down the field. They're really good blocking 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.840 up front. It's an athletic big line. The movement and 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:24.799 all that will be a problem for you in this game. 0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.720 And like I said, they're coming into this game really 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:32.320 really healthy. Other than at quarterback, you've watched obviously several games, Brian, 0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.799 let me ask you this question. Let's assume it hurts plays. Yeah, 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.520 have you been able to because I think right now 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.280 he's playing on a level where he's really m VP status. 0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.239 That is how he's playing right now. People can say 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:44.640 what they want to say about him. He's playing at 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.799 that level. Have you find an area found an area 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.160 of his game where you think that you think is 0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.240 exploitable and that's something that Dallas's defense can actually exploit. 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.680 He when he when you have turnovers and games, you 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:58.880 know in this in this last game and he against 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.920 the Bears, he threw two interceptions and both of them 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:07.080 were off balance, moving backwards, kind of not feet planted throws. 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.560 Sometimes I'm not gonna say he's going to get greedy, 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.520 but sometimes he trust his arm a little more than 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.520 he probably should. So if you're trusting your arm, when 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.360 he could stand there and throw, I feel like that's 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.359 game on for him. But when you get him kind 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.800 of falling back sideways making him have to make a 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.480 he'll make some bad decisions. He gets away with some 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.080 bad decisions too, But the Bears made him pay for 0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:36.680 a couple. But balls were floated into areas where, bro, 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:38.640 why'd you throw that? You know what we're looking at 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:41.120 where he was trying to make that Almost like with Dak. 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.600 Sometimes we see Dak that you know, he's trying to 0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.680 make the big play to Tony Pollard down the sidelines 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.399 instead of hitting Noah Brown dragon underneath on third down 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.120 to get the first you know, he tries to hit 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.360 the I think that's the thing with hurts when his 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:58.120 feet aren't set. I think it's a problem for him 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.600 because I don't know if he gets enough on the ball, 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.040 and then his decision making could be a little a 0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.400 little a little wonky there too. And we said it 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.120 all along that you know with digs can cover you 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:12.200 know pretty much anyone it's that second receiver. You feel 0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:13.880 like that they have the best second receiver in the 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.719 league in in DeVante Smith. Yeah, for the combination. Yeah, 0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.920 the thing about the thing about the combination too. But 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.400 but I mean you just talk about the second receivers. 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.320 I mean, they've played some teams that have had some 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:27.480 good in Minnesota has a couple of good receivers. But 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:31.440 you're in a you're in a in this situation. Smith 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:37.160 is like he's so it's like his routes are like 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.960 big play routes. It's not like, oh, let's catch a 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.040 screen and just kind of go or oh it's a 0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:46.520 little slammer. Oh, It's just it is like deep or 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.480 a cross or down the field, and when he catches 0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:53.160 the ball, it's generally a big play. That's the thing 0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.520 that makes him so great at you know, as a 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.480 second receiver, you got a big old A J. Brown. 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.360 It's gonna just do a lot of the inside stuff, 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.320 catch the ball underneath, you know that kind of stuff. 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.360 And then you got Smith. It's just gonna clear and 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.520 go and then they're gonna take a shot because oh wait, 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.359 we're karn a J. Brown here. But all of a sudden, 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.960 you got the clear that's open, and now they hit 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.160 the ball all the way down the field because they're 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.239 getting the protection to throw the ball. So he is 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.920 outstanding just for the big play aspect of the I 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.279 mean justin you know, making those kinds of catches. He's 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:30.920 one of the best. Um we've taken kind of a 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.319 break from like the amount of penalties that the cow 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:38.239 was getting. You call it, we take a break. I 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:39.800 called him out for that, so I might have to 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.280 call him out again to keep it going. My question 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:45.440 for you was gonna be, like, do you think that 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:51.360 on defense? Because now you're trying to make up for 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.400 the type of game you put out last week and 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.560 you're trying to get these guys, and these guys are 0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:01.239 trying to like make PLAYCE tackled here and that did 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:05.040 they now become a little more Uh, what's the worstest 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:13.000 passive accessible susceptible making those types of mistakes that now 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.920 you're kind of drawing penalty calls on yourself. Yeah. I 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.680 was really worried about uh, you know, uh, with Joseph 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.799 playing in press coverage, you know, I was really kind 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:27.879 of worried about him if getting holding penalties and things 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.400 like that. I was checking to see real quick if 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.640 you if I knew who the crew was for this game, 0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:36.520 because sometimes I could tell because last week's game there 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:41.239 these the the official Sean Smith's crew was very much 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.880 unnecessary roughness. Had one of those. You had one of 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:47.399 those in the game, you know with Williams. They were 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.920 very much defensive holding and defensive PI and they were 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:54.360 also OPI offensive passenger for which they didn't call in 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.040 the game at all. There was a couple of different 0:39:56.080 --> 0:40:00.359 opportunities where they could where they could have definitely uh 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.200 you know taken. They could have called it on Jacksonville 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:06.760 for a push off. I felt like Joseph got pushed. 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.319 There were a couple of different times routes Kirk got 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.879 Kirk pushed one time that they could have they could 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.120 have called so uh yeah, it just makes it. I 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:16.400 think it's a lot of it's a lot to do 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.239 with with what the crew is, what the cruise going on. 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.319 I mean I think that that's a yeah, they don't 0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:24.440 have the cruise up yet. Who's who's ref in this 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.279 game yet? So but yeah, but you know, tomorrow we'll 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.239 come in here or we'll talk about it, and I'll 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.040 be able to tell you like, hey, you need to 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.759 worry about these penalties this week. But I think the 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.160 Cowboys have done a really good job the pre snaps stuff. 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.640 That's the stuff I think that kills this team a lot. 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:46.000 About twenty eight penalties and three games in November, including 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.560 thirteen in the in the uh Thanksgiving the game, but 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.960 three games in November, twenty eight penalties, three games in 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:59.640 December nine eight eight, Yeah, yeah, Alex, Alex camping is 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.640 reasoning or thought in this whole thing is because you're 0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.239 you know, this is a huge game for you. Now 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.680 you're maybe just trying too hard to make the play 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.360 or whatever word. Now you become a little reckless in 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.520 that aspect to now you're drawing some pen like unnecessary 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:20.840 penalties on yourself. It just just the thought that in 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:25.040 case some of these younger guys or whatever, uh where, 0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:28.040 that could maybe become a problem again, even though they're 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:31.000 taking a short break from that. You know, another thing 0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.879 about this Cowboys defense, Um, the last two games they've 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:39.160 given up there, they've they've allowed their opponents to have 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:42.520 a season high in third down percentage in Houston at 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.640 forty six point seven. That barely was the most. But 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.960 then Jacksonville sixty six point wow. Yeah, eight out of 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.480 getting off the field. Yeah, and so you know, and 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.720 that and a lot of that too, is the running 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:59.000 to keep it manageable. Yeah, stay ahead of the chains bit. Yeah, 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.320 it's kind of one of the cliches we always talk about, 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.880 but in this case, it's staying ahead of the chains 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.600 works for teams who are playing the Cowboys right now. Yeah, 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.640 we appreciate you guys to join us. We're back tomorrow. 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:11.960 We're gonna jump into Philadelphia as a defense versus the 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.839 Dallas offense, and we're gonna wrap it up. It's gonna 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.319 be our final show of the week before we head 0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.080 into Christmas. So make sure you join us. We'll get 0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:23.160 you guys ready for Cowboys Christmas Eve versus the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.520 Till then for Nick Eatman. Brian brought us Amber Garcia 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.400 on Derek Eagles Miss Him in the Break live on 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:42.480 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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