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Speaker 1: That was pretty good stuff. Yeah yeah, nice little beat

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Speaker 1: What good? What was all this Greek stuff? Nothing? I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that you put sat with Nick. No, we covered

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Speaker 1: the Saint last. Okay, may be there again. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Appreciate you guys joining us today. We're talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Eagles. Today we're gonna get into the Eagles

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Speaker 1: Very important, very important because you're not playing great football

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna make you have to defend the whole

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Speaker 1: field that way. But this is really about the offense now.

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Speaker 1: It's about the offense not turning over the football and

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Speaker 1: figuring out how to win these games when this defense

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Speaker 1: is compromised. Because I don't think it's gonna get any better.

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Speaker 1: You'll have some guys like Blanding. Those guys probably play better,

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Speaker 1: but some of these other guys they brought in need

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Speaker 1: to step up as well, but also too foul or armstrong. Yep, Bohannah,

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Speaker 1: you guys have got to figure out something. Did not

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Speaker 1: let blockers get up on these linebackers that are having

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Speaker 1: problems too. You know, I was thinking it came to

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Speaker 1: my head. I'm like, Okay, is what happened to the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys offense last year in the second half of the year.

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Speaker 1: Now happening to the Cowboys defense this year? Like on

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Speaker 1: the flip side, you know, how they figure something out? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like the last year, the offense was working really, really

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Speaker 1: good and in second half of the season they just

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Speaker 1: kinda weren't producing as they should. And now that's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily fair to say about the defense completely because you

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Speaker 1: have to take into account the amount of injuries. The

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Speaker 1: offense last year was pretty healthy towards the end of

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Speaker 1: the year. But you talk about being able to respond

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Speaker 1: differently with things that you've gotten glimpse off throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: For example, run the offense. That has been the one

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Speaker 1: problem that they consistently had since the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 1: and they haven't. Necessarily. They even started to improve there,

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Speaker 1: but it never really fully clicked to where they have

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Speaker 1: a definite solution to it and how to respond to

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Speaker 1: how to stop the run. Now you knew what you

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Speaker 1: had with Kelvin Joseph. I mean, I just don't understand

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Speaker 1: how you get to this point to where he was

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Speaker 1: your best man available and you're playing him out there,

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Speaker 1: and now you're sitting here, freaking what week is that

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Speaker 1: into December? We're about to be in Christmas. You're sitting

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Speaker 1: here in the end of December trying to have a

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Speaker 1: cornerback competition. And again, not that you expected Anthony Brown

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Speaker 1: to go down, not that you expected expected Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 1: to go down either, but you do expect everybody else

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Speaker 1: that's down the line as a backup to be preparing

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Speaker 1: as if the moment was to come. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: how I assume they handle these practices. You don't just

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Speaker 1: dismiss the guys are down the depth chart. You keep

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Speaker 1: working them out. But the point is, like, it sucks

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Speaker 1: that we're sitting here about to have like a cornerback competition,

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, Okay, who's the best man to

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Speaker 1: go out there? And they have addressed some things with

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Speaker 1: the signing of some veteran guys. But it's just it's

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Speaker 1: the way that And I love dan Quinn, but I

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Speaker 1: do feel disappointed right now because I thought so highly

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Speaker 1: of him and I still do. But the way he's

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Speaker 1: handled the past couple of weeks, it's just I expect

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Speaker 1: the better from him. What did you What did you

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Speaker 1: want different? Because I look at dan Quinn and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: he's trying. I think he's trying and throwing things like

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Speaker 1: he knew the run defensive problem. They went out, they

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Speaker 1: got Hankins. Hankins gets hurt. They like he is. He's

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Speaker 1: looking for solutions here. He's trying to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to make it all work together. Then there's a time

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Speaker 1: he had to move Michael a linebacker and made that

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Speaker 1: move and then realize, well, we're not getting any pass

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Speaker 1: rush one. I don't have him at defense. So he's trying.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you would want him to do different.

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Speaker 1: At some point, the players, Nick, you talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: At some point the players just got to do their

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Speaker 1: jobs right. No, You're absolutely right. I think it comes

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Speaker 1: down to the players and to the talent itself, because

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Speaker 1: you've seen that and Quinn throw guys in there. You

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Speaker 1: talk about Sam Williams when he was first thrown in there,

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Speaker 1: he responded to that he did good. You talked about

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Speaker 1: Darren Blind throwing him out there. He responded to that

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Speaker 1: did good. Now I guess, yes, I guess you do

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Speaker 1: have to put it. You gotta give him credit for Armstrong.

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Speaker 1: They got rid resolutely, they got rid of, they got

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Speaker 1: rid of, you know, they got Gregory Gregory, and then

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Speaker 1: they put they say, well, hey, no, this guy's just

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Speaker 1: as good and he's had a great eye for the

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Speaker 1: talent development. But I guess he might have missed on Joseph.

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Speaker 1: On Joseph, and I honestly it seems like it definitely

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Speaker 1: missed on Joseph. Yeah, And that seems to me like

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Speaker 1: that's one of those things where and Brian, you've worked

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Speaker 1: in personnel, so you could speak to this, but you're

509
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Speaker 1: not gonna go one hundred percent. And this is one

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Speaker 1: where I bet right now the people that were in

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Speaker 1: the room saying I think we can get something out

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Speaker 1: of Joseph or right now, like man, we might have

513
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Speaker 1: messed this one up. Like it happens like that's that's

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Speaker 1: where I mean, I come on this show and I apologize,

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Speaker 1: I love you, I just have to talk this out.

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Speaker 1: But yes, it comes down to the player and the

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Speaker 1: talent that I'm not a fan of right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing about it is, I, as the former personnel guy,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, do this with Joseph, do this with Joseph,

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Speaker 1: do this, and then you see things not work and

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Speaker 1: you're like, man, maybe they that was a mess up

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Speaker 1: on our part. Personal guys. We'll wear that one. We'll

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Speaker 1: wear that one. But the thing about it is now,

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Speaker 1: it's it's you know, you need something to change, and

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Speaker 1: now you really you're you're just searching for that change.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they need to get back to being able

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Speaker 1: to rush the passer. That's number one. That's their strength.

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Speaker 1: Because I've said this before. If they don't rush the passer,

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Speaker 1: they're very ordinary defense because their secondary can't hold up,

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Speaker 1: especially with the way it's configured now, it can't hold

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Speaker 1: say is just in this team in general, one thing

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Speaker 1: I love about this coaching staff, and it goes offense

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Speaker 1: defense too. They are not we saw for a lot

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Speaker 1: of years with Jason Garrett. They would have a player

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Speaker 1: and he would be struggling and they would be like,

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Speaker 1: it's going to keep going with and they'll keep going

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Speaker 1: with him. And you're watching and you get a guy

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Speaker 1: that's that tackle that gives up six sacks in a

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Speaker 1: game like that happens, right, what we've seen is it

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Speaker 1: happened with Josh Ball. He had those two mistakes. They're like,

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Speaker 1: get somebody else in there, Like, let's get him out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you just need to have a break Kelvin Joseph

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Speaker 1: last week two touchdowns, all right, get him out. We

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Speaker 1: need to get somebody else in there. I actually applaud

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Speaker 1: the fact they're not gonna just sit on it and say, well,

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Speaker 1: somehow miraculously, the guys just gonna play better, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: get somebody else. And so for them to have a

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Speaker 1: cornerback controversy, I mean, a cornerback competition at this point.

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Speaker 1: It's not ideal, but it's better than the alternative of saying,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna trust that Joseph is going to get better.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather than bring in these vets and say, let's

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Speaker 1: just throw what we can throw at it at this point,

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Speaker 1: and let's see how we can get better in this situation.

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Speaker 1: You're also you don't seem to here about what the

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Speaker 1: know it's not. It's not working out. And I don't

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Speaker 1: both quarterbacks. My question for you guys, how difficult is that?

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Speaker 1: How difficult is it when you have to prepare for

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Speaker 1: for Hurts first, is what I would do. I would

639
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: I would try and and and just because that's going

640
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: to be the harder of the prep because if all

641
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, if you see that now, they can

642
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: also gauge this. You know, you practice, you know yesterday,

643
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: you practice today, you practice, you know thirty, So you're

644
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: going to see during the week the progression of whether

645
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: he practices or not. If Hurts keeps not practicing, then

646
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: every day I'm going like preparing for two, preparing for two,

647
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: preparing for one, preparing for one. That's what I would do,

648
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: just as I read the injury report. But the harder

649
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: of the preparation will be for hurt. So make sure

650
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: you take care of that, you know, Nick sirianni uh

651
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: he was, he was like, hey's this guy's Wolverine. He's

652
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: got superpowers, he can regenerate body parts. You know. I'm like, well, geez,

653
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: and put him out there for the US military. I mean, neck,

654
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: he can save the world, you know that kind of thing.

655
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: But you can tell I don't really like Nick Sirianni

656
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: very much. But the thing about it a lot, I

657
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: don't want to call him what his shady called, you know,

658
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: our guy. So but anyway, I would prepare for hurts.

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00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: Let's get I'm not all about I'm about doing my

660
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: homework to try and and and I'll tax watch games. Yeah,

661
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: I actually watch games, and I do it for this

662
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: show too. This is this is gonna be tough though.

663
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: And we all know this. We all, I mean we've

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00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: we know the Philadelphia Eagles enough to know the AJ

665
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: Browns and Smith at wide receiver, and you know what

666
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: they bring. The offensive line, Jordan My alot of Landing Dickerson.

667
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: They they've they're they're outstanding. It's a it's a group

668
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: that when they with hurts, it's a hard offense to

669
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: stop because of the thread of the running corps back,

670
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: that ability just to take the snap on second and

671
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: ten and run for a first down or break a pocket,

672
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: you know. So it's about discipline. It's about it's about

673
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: the ability, and it's very simplistic to say it's about tackling.

674
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: It's about getting bodies to the ball and getting guys

675
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: on the ground, and you know they got back. We'll

676
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: see how much they get out of Dallas Goddard. But

677
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: when we played the previous time, Dallas Goddard was the

678
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: big screen pass guy. You know that's people do not

679
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 1: want to Now if Gardner Minshew's the quarterback, I will

680
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: feel like that they're going to You're gonna see a

681
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: lot of Sanders, You're gonna see a lot of Gainwell,

682
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: the running. I don't know if you'll see the quarterback

683
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: run as much. I don't think you'll see the quarterback

684
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: behind him as Ian books, so you know they've got

685
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: guys that can kind of do the offense, but I

686
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: don't think you'll see the element of the quarterback running

687
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: the ball like you do with Hurts. So if that's

688
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: the case, then be ready, be ready for the backs,

689
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: be ready for the screen game. They do a lot

690
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: of combination routes. When I talk about that, it's the

691
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, the vertical and then the outs behind it.

692
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: They kind of work little route combinations and they make

693
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: it really easy for Hurts just to have to throw

694
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: the ball, and they kind of tick down the field.

695
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: And they could also hit you with the home run ball.

696
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: With with Smith, I mean he could he could fly.

697
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: Brown can get down the field. They're really good blocking

698
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: up front. It's an athletic big line. The movement and

699
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: all that will be a problem for you in this game.

700
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: And like I said, they're coming into this game really

701
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: really healthy. Other than at quarterback, you've watched obviously several games, Brian,

702
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. Let's assume it hurts plays. Yeah,

703
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: have you been able to because I think right now

704
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: he's playing on a level where he's really m VP status.

705
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: That is how he's playing right now. People can say

706
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: what they want to say about him. He's playing at

707
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: that level. Have you find an area found an area

708
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: of his game where you think that you think is

709
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: exploitable and that's something that Dallas's defense can actually exploit.

710
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: He when he when you have turnovers and games, you

711
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: know in this in this last game and he against

712
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: the Bears, he threw two interceptions and both of them

713
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: were off balance, moving backwards, kind of not feet planted throws.

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00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm not gonna say he's going to get greedy,

715
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: but sometimes he trust his arm a little more than

716
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: he probably should. So if you're trusting your arm, when

717
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: he could stand there and throw, I feel like that's

718
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: game on for him. But when you get him kind

719
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: of falling back sideways making him have to make a

720
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: he'll make some bad decisions. He gets away with some

721
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: bad decisions too, But the Bears made him pay for

722
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: a couple. But balls were floated into areas where, bro,

723
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: why'd you throw that? You know what we're looking at

724
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: where he was trying to make that Almost like with Dak.

725
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes we see Dak that you know, he's trying to

726
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: make the big play to Tony Pollard down the sidelines

727
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: instead of hitting Noah Brown dragon underneath on third down

728
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: to get the first you know, he tries to hit

729
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: the I think that's the thing with hurts when his

730
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: feet aren't set. I think it's a problem for him

731
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: because I don't know if he gets enough on the ball,

732
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: and then his decision making could be a little a

733
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: little a little wonky there too. And we said it

734
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: all along that you know with digs can cover you

735
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: know pretty much anyone it's that second receiver. You feel

736
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: like that they have the best second receiver in the

737
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: league in in DeVante Smith. Yeah, for the combination. Yeah,

738
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: the thing about the thing about the combination too. But

739
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: but I mean you just talk about the second receivers.

740
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they've played some teams that have had some

741
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: good in Minnesota has a couple of good receivers. But

742
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: you're in a you're in a in this situation. Smith

743
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: is like he's so it's like his routes are like

744
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: big play routes. It's not like, oh, let's catch a

745
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: screen and just kind of go or oh it's a

746
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: little slammer. Oh, It's just it is like deep or

747
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: a cross or down the field, and when he catches

748
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: the ball, it's generally a big play. That's the thing

749
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: that makes him so great at you know, as a

750
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: second receiver, you got a big old A J. Brown.

751
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna just do a lot of the inside stuff,

752
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: catch the ball underneath, you know that kind of stuff.

753
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: And then you got Smith. It's just gonna clear and

754
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: go and then they're gonna take a shot because oh wait,

755
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: we're karn a J. Brown here. But all of a sudden,

756
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: you got the clear that's open, and now they hit

757
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: the ball all the way down the field because they're

758
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: getting the protection to throw the ball. So he is

759
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: outstanding just for the big play aspect of the I

760
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: mean justin you know, making those kinds of catches. He's

761
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: one of the best. Um we've taken kind of a

762
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: break from like the amount of penalties that the cow

763
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: was getting. You call it, we take a break. I

764
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: called him out for that, so I might have to

765
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: call him out again to keep it going. My question

766
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: for you was gonna be, like, do you think that

767
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: on defense? Because now you're trying to make up for

768
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: the type of game you put out last week and

769
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: you're trying to get these guys, and these guys are

770
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: trying to like make PLAYCE tackled here and that did

771
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: they now become a little more Uh, what's the worstest

772
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: passive accessible susceptible making those types of mistakes that now

773
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: you're kind of drawing penalty calls on yourself. Yeah. I

774
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: was really worried about uh, you know, uh, with Joseph

775
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: playing in press coverage, you know, I was really kind

776
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: of worried about him if getting holding penalties and things

777
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: like that. I was checking to see real quick if

778
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: you if I knew who the crew was for this game,

779
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: because sometimes I could tell because last week's game there

780
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: these the the official Sean Smith's crew was very much

781
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: unnecessary roughness. Had one of those. You had one of

782
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: those in the game, you know with Williams. They were

783
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: very much defensive holding and defensive PI and they were

784
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: also OPI offensive passenger for which they didn't call in

785
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: the game at all. There was a couple of different

786
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: opportunities where they could where they could have definitely uh

787
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: you know taken. They could have called it on Jacksonville

788
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: for a push off. I felt like Joseph got pushed.

789
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: There were a couple of different times routes Kirk got

790
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: Kirk pushed one time that they could have they could

791
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: have called so uh yeah, it just makes it. I

792
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of it's a lot to do

793
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: with with what the crew is, what the cruise going on.

794
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: I mean I think that that's a yeah, they don't

795
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: have the cruise up yet. Who's who's ref in this

796
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: game yet? So but yeah, but you know, tomorrow we'll

797
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: come in here or we'll talk about it, and I'll

798
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: be able to tell you like, hey, you need to

799
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: worry about these penalties this week. But I think the

800
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys have done a really good job the pre snaps stuff.

801
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: That's the stuff I think that kills this team a lot.

802
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: About twenty eight penalties and three games in November, including

803
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: thirteen in the in the uh Thanksgiving the game, but

804
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: three games in November, twenty eight penalties, three games in

805
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: December nine eight eight, Yeah, yeah, Alex, Alex camping is

806
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: reasoning or thought in this whole thing is because you're

807
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: you know, this is a huge game for you. Now

808
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: you're maybe just trying too hard to make the play

809
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: or whatever word. Now you become a little reckless in

810
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: that aspect to now you're drawing some pen like unnecessary

811
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: penalties on yourself. It just just the thought that in

812
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: case some of these younger guys or whatever, uh where,

813
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: that could maybe become a problem again, even though they're

814
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: taking a short break from that. You know, another thing

815
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: about this Cowboys defense, Um, the last two games they've

816
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: given up there, they've they've allowed their opponents to have

817
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: a season high in third down percentage in Houston at

818
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: forty six point seven. That barely was the most. But

819
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: then Jacksonville sixty six point wow. Yeah, eight out of

820
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: getting off the field. Yeah, and so you know, and

821
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: that and a lot of that too, is the running

822
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: to keep it manageable. Yeah, stay ahead of the chains bit. Yeah,

823
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of one of the cliches we always talk about,

824
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: but in this case, it's staying ahead of the chains

825
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: works for teams who are playing the Cowboys right now. Yeah,

826
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Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys to join us. We're back tomorrow.

827
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna jump into Philadelphia as a defense versus the

828
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: Dallas offense, and we're gonna wrap it up. It's gonna

829
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Speaker 1: be our final show of the week before we head

830
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: into Christmas. So make sure you join us. We'll get

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Speaker 1: you guys ready for Cowboys Christmas Eve versus the Philadelphia Eagles.

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,520
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