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Speaker 1: our part. Oh and it is true. This is absolutely
Speaker 1: nailed down. I heard some good journalism on on this yesterday.
Speaker 1: A little fathead does travel with his own toilet and
Speaker 1: they do collect his leavings. Oh boy, treating a good journalism.
Speaker 1: Good work. If you can get even better than that journalist,
Speaker 1: what do you do for the for the government? Deborah J.
Speaker 1: Saunders is the White House correspondent for the Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Review Journal and an honored guest here on The Armstrong
Speaker 1: and Getty Show. Hello, Debra, how are you? I don't
Speaker 1: clean toilets at the White House? Yeah, that's a heck
Speaker 1: of a job, collecting that stuff and storing it for
Speaker 1: future generations. Analyze, I haven't collected it, but we both
Speaker 1: in our lives, have had to clean the john's at
Speaker 1: that little radio stations we worked out exactly. We've all
Speaker 1: had to do it at some sometimes, and of course
Speaker 1: I do it at my house to you know, more
Speaker 1: than occasionally. So listen to everyone more enlightened higher plane
Speaker 1: discussion or the president in Hanoi for the big summit
Speaker 1: and uh, and it's all about the expectations game. Depending
Speaker 1: on who you ask, I guess well, I mean, the
Speaker 1: question is will something come of this? Because we had
Speaker 1: the big summit in Singapore and they came out with
Speaker 1: a nice sort of agreement. It didn't say much and
Speaker 1: it actually pulled back from some agreements in the past.
Speaker 1: And so the question is are we actually going to
Speaker 1: get something for all this pump for for for this
Speaker 1: kind of summit that puts Kim Jong on in sort
Speaker 1: of the community of world leaders who get to do summits,
Speaker 1: or is this going to be another exercise and showmanship
Speaker 1: And that's about it. Well, that's I'm going to accuse
Speaker 1: you of being stuck in the uh, the forms of
Speaker 1: the past, just because the idea of does he deserve
Speaker 1: a summit? A summit is where you have deliverable, elevated exactly.
Speaker 1: You spend months preparing and then the two leaders come together,
Speaker 1: smile at the summit, and sign the big agreement. I
Speaker 1: just don't think that's the way Trump works. I think
Speaker 1: he's trying to forge a relationship that are bare fruit
Speaker 1: in the future. Well he does. He's a salesman, and
Speaker 1: every salesman I've ever known thinks they can sell you anything, right.
Speaker 1: I think if they just spend enough time with you,
Speaker 1: they can get you to buy this. Yes, that's Trump's deal.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just I think
Speaker 1: he's approaching it in a very different way than Barack
Speaker 1: Obama would have. And I completely agree with you. But
Speaker 1: but you can only do that for one summit. You
Speaker 1: can't keep doing that, right. In other words, so you
Speaker 1: can say uh, and and there are people who say
Speaker 1: it that Trump had to deal with him differently UH
Speaker 1: Asian UH leaders like to deal with having the big
Speaker 1: the big people out front and then have other people
Speaker 1: do the details later, and that this was a different
Speaker 1: way of dealing with with with the Hermit Kingdom. This
Speaker 1: was a smart way to do it. That's why I
Speaker 1: hear that. I accept that. The thing is you can't
Speaker 1: keep doing that, and at this point in time, there
Speaker 1: has to be some sort of pulling back of uh
Speaker 1: beyng Young the where they produced nuclear material. There. There's
Speaker 1: talk that they may cut a deal where they will
Speaker 1: they will basically destroy that facility. If that happens, that
Speaker 1: would be good, and I assume that the US will
Speaker 1: pull back on the sanctions. That would be something that
Speaker 1: could come out of this. Or not, we'll find out.
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in the coverage we were talking about this before. Um,
Speaker 1: all the coverage comes down to this help Trump or
Speaker 1: hurt Trump politically, and not enough on the actual what
Speaker 1: we're actually trying to accomplish. This is a big deal.
Speaker 1: We have a country run by a nut job with
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and keeps, you know, saying the nutty stuff.
Speaker 1: So it would be nice to get some deliverables, whether
Speaker 1: it helps Trump or not. Yeah, I agree with you. Um,
Speaker 1: you know I The thing that I was really concentrating
Speaker 1: on last week before they left is are they going
Speaker 1: to be alone? And I think that there's this part
Speaker 1: of a lot of people in the international community, the
Speaker 1: foreign policy wag stuff like that, who don't like the
Speaker 1: fact that Donald Trump likes to be alone with these
Speaker 1: leaders translators only Now in Singapore, he met with Kim
Speaker 1: alone and then they had a big expanded bilateral. All
Speaker 1: the other big shots are there. Um. So the question
Speaker 1: always with Trump is how personal will this get? Is
Speaker 1: he gonna come out really, you know, clutching a letter
Speaker 1: with talking about how happy is and how how much
Speaker 1: they love these letters. How personal? I mean he he
Speaker 1: makes it so personal, and it's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why people look at it that way. Uh Barack Obama
Speaker 1: didn't try to get into the personalities of this in
Speaker 1: real look more at, for example, the human rights record
Speaker 1: more Korea. So listen, I guess I take a really
Speaker 1: unconventional view of this, and and there is a major
Speaker 1: caveat to this. But the Kim Jong un is not
Speaker 1: a nut job. I know he is by our standards.
Speaker 1: He's he's highly irrational, but he heads up the hermit
Speaker 1: kingdom famously isolated, maybe the most isolated country on Earth.
Speaker 1: And I think drawing him out, putting him on the
Speaker 1: world stage, forcing him to engage in the world is
Speaker 1: a very productive goal. Now, it's definitely playing a long game.
Speaker 1: And honestly, it depends, like you're describing on Trump and
Speaker 1: personal meetings and private meetings and the rest of it.
Speaker 1: Um and and as soon as the administration changes, well
Speaker 1: that'll go up and smoke, which is why specifics are
Speaker 1: important and foreign policy. But see, I think having sum
Speaker 1: it after summat and having this guy more and more
Speaker 1: engaged in the world is actually the ruble in itself.
Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see. Deborah Saunders of the Las
Speaker 1: Vegas Review Journal is on the line. Do you have
Speaker 1: any idea how Trump will be taken in the information
Speaker 1: tomorrow when Cohen's testifying, And there's some reporting out today
Speaker 1: that Cohen's gonna claim Trump is was breaking laws while
Speaker 1: in the White House and making racist jokes and all
Speaker 1: kinds of different stuff. You know, this is really nasty,
Speaker 1: the fact that they're going to have Michael Cohen testify
Speaker 1: while the US President is in Vietnam trying to put
Speaker 1: together a summit to de nuclearize North Korea. I mean,
Speaker 1: having them be the world from nuclear holocaust. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. So I mean, I just think we'll see
Speaker 1: how far these guys want to push it. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it looks good to have Michael Cohen testifying. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: Trump is trying to get a deal, and and I
Speaker 1: may be skeptical about what will be done, although you
Speaker 1: know something could could easily could happen. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of people who want to see something good come
Speaker 1: of this. But the idea that Trump has to put
Speaker 1: up with this at this moment, it's just long. I
Speaker 1: think we would agree on that. Yeah, God, you would think,
Speaker 1: so do it do it Friday or do it next week.
Speaker 1: You could get to it fine with the whole Cohen stuff,
Speaker 1: But God, Danny can't have the president, like Joe said,
Speaker 1: trying to avert nuclear armageddon and then somebody whispering his
Speaker 1: Cohen just said, you'd called a bunch of black guys,
Speaker 1: but the inn word and a bunch of people are
Speaker 1: now seriously talking about impeachment, sir. Anyway, Kim Jong Luin
Speaker 1: is waiting for you in the next round. You can't
Speaker 1: have that, that seems I mean, I can picture the
Speaker 1: WAPO in the New York Times going berserk if the
Speaker 1: Republicans were trying to undermine Barack Obama as he's in
Speaker 1: the final moments of, for instance, the nuclear arms deal.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Washington Post has a full page
Speaker 1: story today about a campaign staffer who said that Trump
Speaker 1: tried to kiss her. Yeah, I heard about that, and
Speaker 1: everybody who was said to have been there said that
Speaker 1: didn't happen. So that's great. Yeah, we're going to get
Speaker 1: to a Columbia School of Journalism poll of Americans about
Speaker 1: their attitudes toward journalists. And it's it's not super it's
Speaker 1: it's a little if faith, Deborah. I wonder why I
Speaker 1: saw that story this morning. I could couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it had been up online yesterday, but you
Speaker 1: have a fully at least it wasn't on the front page,
Speaker 1: which is what the New York Times had done in sixteen.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I I'm sorry, I just don't consider
Speaker 1: that to be curious full page curious people would actually
Speaker 1: want to write a huge story about interesting. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we shall see. Deborah J. Saunders is the White House
Speaker 1: correspondent for the Las Vegas Review Journal. Well you might
Speaker 1: have some fancy righting to do, Debora. We'll let you
Speaker 1: rest your right and wrist and get it stretched out.
Speaker 1: Maybe I sit a little bit and get ready. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, good to talk to you. Thanks. So I
Speaker 1: haven't read this. Uh, Sean mentioned it was on a
Speaker 1: Twitter on a tweet yesterday from somewhere, but it's now.
Speaker 1: It's in the Washington Post. Some woman claims that Trump
Speaker 1: kissed her, tried to kiss her and she turned her head,
Speaker 1: and now she's suing for many many dollars for emotional distress.
Speaker 1: That somebody tried to kiss her. It could be true,
Speaker 1: But why now seems pretty weird, just in that you
Speaker 1: didn't want to bring him down during his campaign in
Speaker 1: no time during the last two years? What what? What's
Speaker 1: the Is there an answer for the why now? I
Speaker 1: don't know. There could be an answer, but I have
Speaker 1: not gone deep into this story. So the theory I
Speaker 1: saw thrown out is that she was lawyering up to
Speaker 1: figure out how to break her non disclosure agreement that
Speaker 1: that Trump signed, and part of working with it, you
Speaker 1: signed these things. Okay, she was part of the campaign.
Speaker 1: That's funny. I heard about this story a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago. I hadn't realized it was the same girl. Okay,
Speaker 1: woman whatever? Um? Alright? So yeah, wild was she at
Speaker 1: the time? But I don't know. I quit asking me stuff.
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the store. Say it's ridiculously just happened.
Speaker 1: I'll find out our age. Yeah, I just wonder she
Speaker 1: is point two year older fifty two year old one. Alright, well,
Speaker 1: it's going to become a thing. It could become a thing.
Speaker 1: Why don't you cover that story. I'll cover the nuclear
Speaker 1: arms peel. It could be the big story the next
Speaker 1: next two weeks for all, I have some really good condescensial.
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