1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: When you're ready to ride Metro, we want you to 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: know we're ready for you. Here are just a few 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: of the people at Metro to tell you how we're 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: doing our part to keep writers safe. We're cleaning before 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: you're found half sound of suns of statist, no mask, 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: no Metro need one. We have a few extras at Metro. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: We're doing our part to keep the DC area moving. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Find out more at well mata dot com slash doing 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: our part. Oh and it is true. This is absolutely 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: nailed down. I heard some good journalism on on this yesterday. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: A little fathead does travel with his own toilet and 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: they do collect his leavings. Oh boy, treating a good journalism. 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Good work. If you can get even better than that journalist, 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: what do you do for the for the government? Deborah J. 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: Saunders is the White House correspondent for the Las Vegas 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: Review Journal and an honored guest here on The Armstrong 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: and Getty Show. Hello, Debra, how are you? I don't 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: clean toilets at the White House? Yeah, that's a heck 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: of a job, collecting that stuff and storing it for 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: future generations. Analyze, I haven't collected it, but we both 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: in our lives, have had to clean the john's at 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: that little radio stations we worked out exactly. We've all 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: had to do it at some sometimes, and of course 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I do it at my house to you know, more 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: than occasionally. So listen to everyone more enlightened higher plane 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: discussion or the president in Hanoi for the big summit 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: and uh, and it's all about the expectations game. Depending 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: on who you ask, I guess well, I mean, the 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: question is will something come of this? Because we had 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: the big summit in Singapore and they came out with 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: a nice sort of agreement. It didn't say much and 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: it actually pulled back from some agreements in the past. 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: And so the question is are we actually going to 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: get something for all this pump for for for this 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: kind of summit that puts Kim Jong on in sort 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: of the community of world leaders who get to do summits, 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: or is this going to be another exercise and showmanship 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: And that's about it. Well, that's I'm going to accuse 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: you of being stuck in the uh, the forms of 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: the past, just because the idea of does he deserve 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: a summit? A summit is where you have deliverable, elevated exactly. 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: You spend months preparing and then the two leaders come together, 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: smile at the summit, and sign the big agreement. I 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: just don't think that's the way Trump works. I think 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: he's trying to forge a relationship that are bare fruit 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: in the future. Well he does. He's a salesman, and 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: every salesman I've ever known thinks they can sell you anything, right. 48 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: I think if they just spend enough time with you, 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: they can get you to buy this. Yes, that's Trump's deal. 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just I think 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: he's approaching it in a very different way than Barack 52 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: Obama would have. And I completely agree with you. But 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: but you can only do that for one summit. You 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: can't keep doing that, right. In other words, so you 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: can say uh, and and there are people who say 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: it that Trump had to deal with him differently UH 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: Asian UH leaders like to deal with having the big 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: the big people out front and then have other people 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: do the details later, and that this was a different 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: way of dealing with with with the Hermit Kingdom. This 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: was a smart way to do it. That's why I 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: hear that. I accept that. The thing is you can't 63 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: keep doing that, and at this point in time, there 64 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: has to be some sort of pulling back of uh 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: beyng Young the where they produced nuclear material. There. There's 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: talk that they may cut a deal where they will 67 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: they will basically destroy that facility. If that happens, that 68 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: would be good, and I assume that the US will 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: pull back on the sanctions. That would be something that 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: could come out of this. Or not, we'll find out. 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in the coverage we were talking about this before. Um, 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: all the coverage comes down to this help Trump or 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: hurt Trump politically, and not enough on the actual what 74 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: we're actually trying to accomplish. This is a big deal. 75 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: We have a country run by a nut job with 76 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and keeps, you know, saying the nutty stuff. 77 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: So it would be nice to get some deliverables, whether 78 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: it helps Trump or not. Yeah, I agree with you. Um, 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: you know I The thing that I was really concentrating 80 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: on last week before they left is are they going 81 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: to be alone? And I think that there's this part 82 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of people in the international community, the 83 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: foreign policy wag stuff like that, who don't like the 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: fact that Donald Trump likes to be alone with these 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: leaders translators only Now in Singapore, he met with Kim 86 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: alone and then they had a big expanded bilateral. All 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: the other big shots are there. Um. So the question 88 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: always with Trump is how personal will this get? Is 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: he gonna come out really, you know, clutching a letter 90 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: with talking about how happy is and how how much 91 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: they love these letters. How personal? I mean he he 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: makes it so personal, and it's one of the reasons 93 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: why people look at it that way. Uh Barack Obama 94 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: didn't try to get into the personalities of this in 95 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: real look more at, for example, the human rights record 96 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: more Korea. So listen, I guess I take a really 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: unconventional view of this, and and there is a major 98 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: caveat to this. But the Kim Jong un is not 99 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: a nut job. I know he is by our standards. 100 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: He's he's highly irrational, but he heads up the hermit 101 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: kingdom famously isolated, maybe the most isolated country on Earth. 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: And I think drawing him out, putting him on the 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: world stage, forcing him to engage in the world is 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: a very productive goal. Now, it's definitely playing a long game. 105 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: And honestly, it depends, like you're describing on Trump and 106 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: personal meetings and private meetings and the rest of it. 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: Um and and as soon as the administration changes, well 108 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: that'll go up and smoke, which is why specifics are 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: important and foreign policy. But see, I think having sum 110 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: it after summat and having this guy more and more 111 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: engaged in the world is actually the ruble in itself. 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see. Deborah Saunders of the Las 113 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: Vegas Review Journal is on the line. Do you have 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: any idea how Trump will be taken in the information 115 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow when Cohen's testifying, And there's some reporting out today 116 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: that Cohen's gonna claim Trump is was breaking laws while 117 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: in the White House and making racist jokes and all 118 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: kinds of different stuff. You know, this is really nasty, 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: the fact that they're going to have Michael Cohen testify 120 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: while the US President is in Vietnam trying to put 121 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: together a summit to de nuclearize North Korea. I mean, 122 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: having them be the world from nuclear holocaust. Yes, yeah, 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: that's right. So I mean, I just think we'll see 124 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: how far these guys want to push it. But I 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: don't think it looks good to have Michael Cohen testifying. Well, uh, 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Trump is trying to get a deal, and and I 127 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: may be skeptical about what will be done, although you 128 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: know something could could easily could happen. There are a 129 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: lot of people who want to see something good come 130 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: of this. But the idea that Trump has to put 131 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: up with this at this moment, it's just long. I 132 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: think we would agree on that. Yeah, God, you would think, 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: so do it do it Friday or do it next week. 134 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: You could get to it fine with the whole Cohen stuff, 135 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: But God, Danny can't have the president, like Joe said, 136 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: trying to avert nuclear armageddon and then somebody whispering his 137 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: Cohen just said, you'd called a bunch of black guys, 138 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: but the inn word and a bunch of people are 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: now seriously talking about impeachment, sir. Anyway, Kim Jong Luin 140 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: is waiting for you in the next round. You can't 141 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: have that, that seems I mean, I can picture the 142 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: WAPO in the New York Times going berserk if the 143 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: Republicans were trying to undermine Barack Obama as he's in 144 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: the final moments of, for instance, the nuclear arms deal. 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 1: By the way, the Washington Post has a full page 146 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: story today about a campaign staffer who said that Trump 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: tried to kiss her. Yeah, I heard about that, and 148 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: everybody who was said to have been there said that 149 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: didn't happen. So that's great. Yeah, we're going to get 150 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: to a Columbia School of Journalism poll of Americans about 151 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: their attitudes toward journalists. And it's it's not super it's 152 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: it's a little if faith, Deborah. I wonder why I 153 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: saw that story this morning. I could couldn't believe it. 154 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it had been up online yesterday, but you 155 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: have a fully at least it wasn't on the front page, 156 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: which is what the New York Times had done in sixteen. 157 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: But I mean, I I'm sorry, I just don't consider 158 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: that to be curious full page curious people would actually 159 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: want to write a huge story about interesting. Yeah, yeah, 160 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: we shall see. Deborah J. Saunders is the White House 161 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: correspondent for the Las Vegas Review Journal. Well you might 162 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: have some fancy righting to do, Debora. We'll let you 163 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: rest your right and wrist and get it stretched out. 164 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: Maybe I sit a little bit and get ready. Okay, 165 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: all right, good to talk to you. Thanks. So I 166 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: haven't read this. Uh, Sean mentioned it was on a 167 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: Twitter on a tweet yesterday from somewhere, but it's now. 168 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: It's in the Washington Post. Some woman claims that Trump 169 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: kissed her, tried to kiss her and she turned her head, 170 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: and now she's suing for many many dollars for emotional distress. 171 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: That somebody tried to kiss her. It could be true, 172 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: But why now seems pretty weird, just in that you 173 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to bring him down during his campaign in 174 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: no time during the last two years? What what? What's 175 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: the Is there an answer for the why now? I 176 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: don't know. There could be an answer, but I have 177 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: not gone deep into this story. So the theory I 178 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: saw thrown out is that she was lawyering up to 179 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: figure out how to break her non disclosure agreement that 180 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: that Trump signed, and part of working with it, you 181 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: signed these things. Okay, she was part of the campaign. 182 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: That's funny. I heard about this story a couple of 183 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: days ago. I hadn't realized it was the same girl. Okay, 184 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: woman whatever? Um? Alright? So yeah, wild was she at 185 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: the time? But I don't know. I quit asking me stuff. 186 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the store. Say it's ridiculously just happened. 187 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: I'll find out our age. Yeah, I just wonder she 188 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: is point two year older fifty two year old one. Alright, well, 189 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: it's going to become a thing. It could become a thing. 190 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Why don't you cover that story. I'll cover the nuclear 191 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: arms peel. 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