1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: What is up Straight Fire? 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Bowyer for Monday debut. Wary 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 3: that twenty third nice, really beautiful weekend. 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Weather in LA was great. 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Sorry to my friends in the Northeast tour, either getting 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: dumped on by snow or an Arctic blast. I forget 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: the exact phrase. Something blast. I forget the exact term, 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: but it's brutal. I was getting text from everybody. They're like, oh, yeah, 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: we hunkered down. I was like, yeah, I remember those days. 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Rob G's never really experienced those, but that cold weather 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: and the snow bomb cyclone, that's the phrase I was 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: looking for. I never heard of that before, like a 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: couple of years ago, and now it's like a big thing. 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: It was a great weekend in LA. Good weekend for sports. 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: I will say I did not wake up at five 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: am to watch USA Canada and hockey. It looks like 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: it was a good match. I didn't know about the 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: overtime rules. Either way, the US gets a big win, 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: pretty exciting stuff. The highlights were great goosebump inducing stuff, 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: similar to that USA basketball win where Curry went bananas. 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: I believe it was two summers ago. 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: It's fun when you can move for your country and 24 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: sports at the same time. 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: Just pretty pretty freaking awesome. 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: We'll start the podcast with I think you have to 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: start with what went down Sunday. 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Here's the good news bad news. 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: So it's now late in the season, twenty ish, twenty five, 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 3: somewhere in that range, depending on which team you're talking about, 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: games left in the season. NBC really does it up 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: big to make Lakers Celtics feel huge. Bob Costas announcing 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: the intro. It felt like an NBA playoff game, and 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: you love that, and the players seemed to care, the 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: fans were into it. 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: It was juiced up. 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: But then the result happens. The Lakers get thumped, and 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: now it's the sky is falling? Can you win a 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: title with Luka Doncic? Rob, we're recording this Sunday night, Okay, 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: I am predicting right now that somewhere on Monday, somebody 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: and I have not talked to Cowherd, somebody somewhere is 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: going to try to float. This is I don't think 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: you can win a title with Luka Doncic. And it's 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: funny because he was fantastic Friday Night. People forget that 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: Friday Night against the Clippers, who had been playing great. 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: Luca and Reeves go to battle with Kawhi and Ben 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: matherin great game. Lakers win. Sunday Lakers not as good 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: against Boston, which is a really flucky team. I did 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 3: not anticipate Baylor's Shireman frustrating Luka Doncic's at times, but 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: that happened. That was the thing, And now it's like, well, 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: I do could you win a title with Luca? And 52 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: now I know Rob is a Luca fan. I don't 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 3: know if he's as big a fan as I am, 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: but I do think that's gonna be a goofy topic. 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 3: Short answer, yes, of course you can. Let's not overreact 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: to a game in February. Just the same way as 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm not going to kill the Rockets for Saturday night 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: blowing an eighteen point lead. We were kind of on 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: the oh, the Rockets are slip sliding before the KB 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: text around the All Star break, right, I think, yes, 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: you can win a title with Luca, that's obvious. 62 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Can you win it this year? Well it's gonna be tough, 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: but it could be done. Anything can be done. 64 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: Guys again the Indiana Pacers. This time last year, nobody 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: would have thought NBA Finals, Nobody would have thought Game seven. 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: Okay, things happen all the time. 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: By the way, SGA did not play Someday thunder one 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: without him against the Cabs. But this idea that oh 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: my gosh, Lakers lost, Lebron's watched the defense is not good? 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: Is Austin Reeves even to two? Bring on Giannis, empty 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: the empty the tank. And even then, I don't know 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: if you could win with Luca. I just feel like 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: people are going overboard rob and killed in the Lakers. 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: So I had to coach my daughter's basketball team during 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: most of the first half of Lakers Celtics. So I 76 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: go to the score table, I'm like, yo, well you 77 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: guys got a Laker score, and they're like, they're down bad, 78 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: they're not good. And I look at them, I'm like, 79 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: they're playing and if they win this game, they're gonna 80 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: be tied for third in the West. 81 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: And they're not good. 82 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: And that's where it's like the reality Lakers have a 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 3: good record, lucas an MVP candidate, Lebron's doing unbelievable things 84 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: at forty one Austin Reeves was an All Star. 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: It would have been an All Star if not for 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: the injury. 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: And it's all anyway, Well, they're not good, and are 88 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: we really do this? This goes to back to the 89 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: rings culture thing. So what if the Lakers aren't right 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: there with the best record in the league that they're 91 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: not good? They stink and it's a little bit annoying, 92 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: but I get it, like this is what we do now. 93 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: I will say this, Rob, We've got about two three 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: weeks before March Madness starts, So NBA is gonna be 95 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: super hot for the next two and a half weeks, 96 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: then Championship Week, March Madness, then everybody takes a break 97 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: on the NBA Usually during that first like brackets come out, 98 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: then there's Tuesday, there's all this gambling, there's bracket contest. 99 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: The first four days are amazing, and then NBA like 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: does it come back until that money? 101 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: So there there's gonna be a break. 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just stick with my initial thoughts, Rob, Yes, 103 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: this Lakers team can win a title this year. 104 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: Obviously they're not the favorites or even close. And yeah, 105 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: of course you can win a tight with Luca. You 106 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: just got to build around him. 107 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: They've had him on the on the team for maybe 108 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: not even thirteen months. Rob just a consternation with every 109 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: Laker losses. Oh this guy is falling. Oh my gosh, 110 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: it's over. I can't believe they paid Jake Laavia. Like, guys, 111 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: could we settle down? 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 4: Why is Jake Laravia catching strays right now? Man? I 113 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: like it fair. 114 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: I like Jake michaela Ravia. He's good, he's solid, he's 115 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: a great guy. 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: You know, Alex Carusoe Austin Reeves well, one of the 117 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 4: great white players of Lakers history. You know, so we're 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 4: excited about that. 119 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: Wow, that's easy Carivas. 120 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see. Look as far as the 121 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: Lakers go, like you, I agree with your overall sentiment 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: that you have a lot of you know, sky is 123 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: falling type of stuff. That's because it's the Lakers. Like, 124 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 4: that's part of what comes with being a Lakers fan 125 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: or a Lakers player, or someone who follows sports media 126 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: is the Lakers the cowboys, you know, two biggest ones 127 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: off the top of my head. If they do something good, 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: their praise to the high heaven. Right, Like, you'll get 129 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: a lead on one of your favorite debate shows saying 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: Lakers win a big road game against the Knicks, are 131 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: they championship contenders? It's like, well, it's a Tuesday night, 132 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: you know, in March, Like, let's relax a second, you know, 133 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: but that's what you're going to get. And so what Conversely, 134 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: when they have a game like they did on Sunday 135 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: where they get their doors blown off basically wire to wire, 136 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: it felt like, you know, it got a little more 137 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: ugly at the end, but they were down, you know, 138 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: basically double digits from the second quarter on. And of 139 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: course you're going to see a lot of people overreacting 140 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: and saying, well, they're obviously they suck, you know, the clearly, 141 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: even though they're one game out of third place, they 142 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: may as well be a playing team because look at 143 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: how bad they are, like Lebron, They Lebron, Luca and 144 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: Austin don't play any defense, and they're always complaining about fouls, 145 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: and you look how an athletic they are, and so 146 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: on and so forth. So it doesn't surprise me that 147 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: that's what's going to be the narrative coming out here 148 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: on Monday. What I will say is, with regards to 149 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: this specific game on Sunday night, and even to your 150 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: point about the Knicks Rockets game is both of those 151 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: games to me was a lot of confirmation bias because 152 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: even though I'm a huge Laker fan, even though like you, 153 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: I think they have like a dark horse outside Jant, 154 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: if things break their way, they can make a run. 155 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: Because anytime you have a top five player, you feel 156 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: like you have a shot against anybody. But the Lakers, 157 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: to me, their big bugaboo is they're unathletic. They don't 158 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: defend well. And when they run into young teams or 159 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: teams that have lively legs, teams that play hard. Something 160 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: as simple as playing hard in the NBA is a skill, right, 161 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: Like we talk about that with Detroit. I don't know 162 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: how much top heavy you know talent they have, but 163 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: they play hard night tonight tonight, and that's gonna win 164 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: you a lot of games in the NBA. So when 165 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: the Lakers run into a team like Boston, who I 166 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 4: don't think this is a Jason Tatum thing, but because 167 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: Tatum is out, they're playing a lot of scrappy guys 168 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: who are just fighting for their NBA lives. They play really, 169 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: really hard every night and That's why they're one of 170 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: the surprise stories of the league. So when the Lakers 171 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: run into a team like that, they tend to look 172 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: very slow, they tend to look very lethargic, they tend 173 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: to look very unathletic. They tend to look like, you know, 174 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: one of the worst teams in the NBA, the way 175 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: the dog hansls say. So, I wasn't surprised to see 176 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: them lose the way they did. Like, if they lose, 177 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: they lose, it it is, but when they lose like that, 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: it would make sense it would happen against the team 179 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: like Boston. Same thing with the Knicks and the Rockets. 180 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: Right going back to the other night, we were talking 181 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: about this last week that Houston had been backsliding for 182 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 4: about a month now, you know, going before the KD tweets, 183 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 4: they get to the All Star Break, they come out 184 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: with a nice road win, I think against the Charlotte Hornets, 185 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: who had been playing pretty well up to that point, 186 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: and you feel like, hey, maybe it wasn't as bad 187 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: as we thought. Maybe, you know, this was a galvanizing situation. 188 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: Katie apologize to the team. They're all komba ya again. 189 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: Houston Rocket's Twitter account is putting out videos of Katie 190 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: rallying at the troops that practice, and it's like, are 191 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: we sure about that? And then you see what happens 192 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: against the Knicks, where one thing goes wrong, then another 193 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 4: thing goes wrong, and a third thing goes wrong, and 194 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 4: it's snowballs out of control and guys are arguing and 195 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 4: bickering and finger pointing, and nobody's on the same page. 196 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: And it's like confirmation biased to me and maybe to you, 197 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: where it's like, we saw this coming. You don't have 198 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: a backslade like you did for the last month, coupled 199 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: with a Kdie Twitter spear situation and expect everything to 200 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 4: be cool, like this is kind of what we expected 201 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 4: to happen at some point when things go bad, they 202 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 4: can't come together the way a good team would or should, 203 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: and they're gonna let things get out of control. So 204 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: in both of those instances, you know, I wasn't surprised 205 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: by either one, But to your original point, I believe 206 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: each one is gonna get blown to a stratospheric you know. 207 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Comparison, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup 208 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports 209 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: radio dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR 210 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: to listen live. 211 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, nobody, and I mean nobody is going to be like, 212 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: are the Nuggets in trouble because they lost to the 213 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: curry Less Warriors by double digits? Mind you getting up 214 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty eight points. 215 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: In Golden Stick. This is who the Warrior started, folks. 216 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: Okay, before you, before you kill the Lakers, just keep 217 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: it one hundred Guy Santos, Did I say that right? 218 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: Rob Gie Santos, E Santos man legend, that's the g 219 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: the g U I Gi Santos. Al Horford, who I 220 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: think just file for Social Security this week. I'm not 221 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: sure he's very old. De Anthony Melton, Moses Moody, who 222 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: I like at Spencer, a converted lacrosse player coming off 223 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: the bench. Brandon Podzemski, will Richard Quinton Post, Gary Payton. 224 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: I mean, if I told you that was the words 225 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: line of you would say they're tanking for a J. 226 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: Demonsa honestly, and they beat the Nuggets. Who oh, by 227 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: the way, oh, by the way, had Jamal Murray, had Jokich, 228 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: had Braun had Cameron Johnson. Okay, by the way Cam Johnson. 229 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: They are running him out of Denver. They cannot stand him. 230 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: They were like, he's got to be one and done. 231 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: We can't have this guy. So so the Nuggets lose. 232 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: Will they be on any on any big a block 233 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: stories on Monday anywhere or even Tuesday? Of course, Oh 234 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: nobody cares. Meanwhile, Yokich is what number two in the 235 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: straw Pole, the ESPN MVP straw Pole, which is pretty accurate. 236 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: Sga is still not playing. I don't know how long 237 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: it's been since he's played a basketball game. It's been 238 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: a long ass time. They win without him on Sunday 239 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: against the Caves. 240 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: I think it was like twenty two to four early 241 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: in that game. I saw it early. I was like, yeah, 242 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm not watching that. 243 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: I will say, you know, I We'll get to college 244 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: basketball in a second, but you know, football's over. 245 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: There's no combine to watch that. 246 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: I think the Combines starts at the end of this 247 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 3: week early next week. And I got into this cheesy 248 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: show a couple of years ago called The Night Agent 249 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: on Netflix. 250 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: Have you seen it? 251 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: Rob? I have not. 252 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's not terrible, it's kind of basic, but 253 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: you if you watch the first season, you'll be like, oh, 254 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: this is good, and then it goes easily. There's not 255 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: a lot of heavy lifting to do, right, there's a 256 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: little like oh did that interesting? 257 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: And so season three. That's the thing. I think I've 258 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: talked about this. 259 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: I don't know when these seasons come out because I'm 260 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: not like, let me just go over to Netflix and 261 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: see what they've got. 262 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: I never do that. I do that with cable. 263 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: I'll turn on the cable and then I will check, 264 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: you know, the movie channels to see if Top Gun 265 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: Maverick is showing for the seventeen time this week, and 266 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 3: I'll probably have it on in the background and that 267 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: I know when sports games are. 268 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: But I don't go to. 269 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: Amazon Prime and say what do they have that's new. 270 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: My daughter was on Netflix and I say, you got 271 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: to turn that show off. So she gets out of 272 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 3: Netflix and as she's eggs hitting Rob, I see new 273 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: and new season of Night Agent. So in between sports 274 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: all weekend, I was buzzing through Night Agent season three. 275 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: It's great, texted my mom, texted by brother because they 276 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: watched it as well. 277 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: You gotta check out new season just drop. 278 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: And I'm not one of these early adopters like when 279 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: the season drops. 280 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: But it's like ten episodes. 281 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: In hour each and you could buzz through the pretty quickly, 282 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: so literally, miss it's a good show Michigan Duke, which 283 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 3: we could get into now. Saturday was awesome. As soon 284 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: as halftime hits. I'm watching twenty minutes of Night Agent. 285 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm not even do you ever do that? 286 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 4: Rob? 287 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: Were you watching? You get that into shows? Yes? 288 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: And you know what's funny about that is that you 289 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 4: bring that up is you know, I was watching a 290 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: lot of sports over the weekend, but in between the sports, 291 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: you know, I watched the Big boxing game on Saturday, 292 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: and I watched the Laker game. 293 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: Whoa, what was the boxing Saturday? Oh, Ryan Garcia? That's right, yeah, yeah, 294 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: I saw the highlight. 295 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: But you know, before and after all of these events, 296 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: when I had the TV or the tablets on myself, 297 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 4: I'm watching reruns of the show Shipping Wars on A 298 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: and E. 299 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: What the hell is that? 300 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 4: I can't help it? Guys bid on things to ship 301 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: across the country and then Shenanigan's in Sue and it's like, 302 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: how do they get this giant inflatable baby from Texas 303 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: to Tennessee. We'll find out. It's like, yeah, I have 304 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: no idea why, but I'm locked in. 305 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: You're on shipp Any Wars, okay, like twelve year old show, 306 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: and I'm all in. And now I'm guessing you're not 307 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: watching that with the wife. No, yeah, that's a solo thing. Yeah, 308 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: like yeah, the wives they don't care about this stuff. 309 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 3: But in all honesty, like Michigan Duke was tremendous, and 310 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: I know I talked about night Age. 311 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: The game was great. 312 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: I had Michigan Day didn't end up winning four shot selection, 313 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: but I know we've talked about this a little. You 314 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: guys don't have a huge college basketball nerd. Saturday was amazing. 315 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: Houston Arizona was great. I did have Arizona, didn't give 316 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: that out. I just you know, better personally. And then 317 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: lost on Michigan. But those two games, it was like, Wow, 318 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: this sport is in them. And then aj debonsa Saturday 319 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: night I didn't see much of it, so the highlights 320 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: went off and beat Iowa State, And like, I know, Rob, 321 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: you're not as big in college hoops, but are these 322 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: superstar names Darren Peterson, Debansa, Cameron Boozer are they getting 323 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: you to a TV at all? 324 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: Are you getting into it? Do you care? Absolutely? Absolutely? 325 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: Oh? Well, but to your point, I'm not like, hey, 326 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: number one versus number three, I'm definitely gonna tune in 327 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: and watch it, you know, be like I'm not planning 328 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: my schedule around it, but when it's on, I'm I'm 329 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: putting it on, like I'll make sure, like, oh, I 330 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: didn't realize that Duke was playing right now at you know, 331 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: twelve thirty Pacific. I'm gonna throw it on the TV 332 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: because I want to see Boozer. I want to see Dabantsa. 333 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: I want to see Darren Peterson, like I want to 334 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: see it was a cuff, right, the young kid, Yeah, Arkansas. 335 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: And it's like, because I've been told, and I've been hearing, 336 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: and you've been telling me even off the air, how 337 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: great this draft class is, I need to see it 338 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: for myself because they're saying that this is, if not 339 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: the best, one of the best in a generation. So 340 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: I'm like, it's so. 341 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: I did a segment on the Herd World was like this, 342 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: So the eighty four draft class head Jordan, Elijah Wan 343 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: and Barkley, which is legendary. The two thousand and three 344 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: had Lebron Wade Mellow. I think there was someone else 345 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: really good in there, and then ninety six had Kobe Nash. 346 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: It was somebody else. 347 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: I mean, those were iverson that those were ridiculous drafts, 348 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: and I am of the beliefs that this one will 349 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: rival those three in terms. 350 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Now I know it. 351 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: Listen, it's gonna be tough. 352 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: I mean, Elijah Won, Barkley and Jordan that's three of 353 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: the top like forty players in the history of the 354 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: sport in one draft. I don't know if we'll get there. 355 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: I saw a lot from Boozer. I mean, I know 356 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: the scoring wasn't there, and he's not an elite, elite athlete. 357 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: I don't think he's as good as Cooper Flag, but 358 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: he's a great passer. He's a high iq guy and 359 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: in the clutch, oh my gosh, big time three, making 360 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: all the plays at both ends. 361 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: And he was largely outclassed by the twenty three year olds. 362 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: He's only eighteen, and yet Lendeborg twenty three year old, 363 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: was great, but Boozer got him in the clutch. It 364 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: was really a high level game. And the other one, 365 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: the De Bonca showing Saturday night. 366 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: He looks. It's weird. 367 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: Rob. 368 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've detected this. So the media 369 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: picks and chooses who they like. They really don't like 370 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 3: Darren Peterson right now, Yeah, because he sits out and 371 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: now all these jokes are flying, like Kansas got smoked 372 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: by Cincinnati Saturday and I'm like, what's going on here? 373 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: And all these people are joking, Well, they didn't anticipate 374 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: Peterson playing in the second half, and he kind of 375 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: killed him. You know, people are making fun of him 376 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: for playing. And all they asked Dabonsa was, hey, you 377 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: played forty minutes. Can you talk about what it's like 378 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: to play forty minutes? Because Peterson never plays forty minutes 379 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: or even close. And it just it got a little weird, 380 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: and you could tell the media is all in on 381 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: Debonsa and they are selling their Peterson stock. 382 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: It's just weird how the media gets involved like that. 383 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean it goes back to your original 384 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: point to open up the podcast, like it's made to 385 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 4: get blown out of proportion, right, It's made to have 386 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: a situation where we're talking about it on a Monday 387 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: in the middle of February. Because even though the ratings 388 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: say college basketball is doing phenomenally, which they like. Television wise, 389 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: it's incredible, right, But on a day to day, week 390 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: to week basis, for the casual sports fan, it just 391 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 4: really doesn't doesn't resonate because, you know, the way college 392 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 4: basketball is now, you don't get the guys there for 393 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 4: more than a year usually like the best players, and 394 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 4: you don't grow with them the way you did it, 395 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 4: you know in the nineties or even the early two thousands, 396 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 4: where it's like, hey, I saw two or three years 397 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: of the Fab five. I saw two or three years 398 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: of you know, the duke teams with like Alton Brand 399 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 4: and Coorg mcgeey and those guys, like the North Carolina teams, 400 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 4: and so once you had the one and done era, 401 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 4: and now what we have is one and done plus 402 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: a transfer portal. It's like, I don't even know where 403 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 4: most of these kids played nowadays. You just mentioned it 404 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: that the Michigan Duke game, Michigan almost won because they 405 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: have a twenty three year old on their on their right, 406 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 4: like like that kind of changes the discourse a little bit. 407 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 4: And so what you're seeing now is what can we 408 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: throw out there that's gonna get people who don't necessarily 409 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: follow on a day to day basis our sport. That's 410 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: gonna get people talking about it. What's something that myself, 411 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: who doesn't watch every game like that, What can I 412 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: talk about intelligently that's gonna get people to lock in? 413 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 4: And this Darren Peterson story, you know we've done a 414 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 4: lot of time on on this podcast, is one of 415 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: those things that everybody has an opinion on because all 416 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: the scouts say, yeah, this guy is incredible. This guy is, 417 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: you know, if not number one, at worst the number 418 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 4: two overall pick. And he doesn't like to finish games. 419 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 4: He keeps pulling himself out. He sits out games like 420 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: and then you start questioning people who have never seen 421 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 4: him play, question his heart, question his work ethic. People 422 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: have no idea that he's been dealing with injuries, you know, 423 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: basically since his since high school. But you have to 424 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: research that because I don't know anybody. I just know 425 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: that this kid has a finished game, So I don't 426 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 4: want me to dropt me though you've never seen him play, 427 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: And so it's real easy, low hanging fruit type stuff 428 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: to be like, well, Darren Peterson, despite when they played 429 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: head to head outperformed him despite being viewed when they 430 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: do play as the better pro prospects. Yeah, it's easier 431 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: to pit these two guys against them from that perspective 432 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 4: rather than actually watch the games or do a little 433 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 4: bit of research. 434 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one hundred percent, no doubt about it. 435 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 436 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 437 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 438 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: listen live. 439 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 3: It's a wacky time, but like you said, you've got 440 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: to produce a radio show. And you know, I mean 441 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: no disrespect those guys. They're not locked in on college hoops. 442 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: But when you sell Darren Peterson the way you do 443 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: easy money, I guess we can wrap up with this. Well, Okay, 444 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: there's two NFL stories. One's a little one's a little sad. 445 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: So we'll close with that. But I don't know if 446 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: you saw this headline Sunday, Rob, they are not expecting 447 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: Tush push proposal this year, okay for the NFL Competition 448 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: Committee chairman said that he's not anticipating that. Okay, Rob, 449 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: this is my read on that there's enough people who 450 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: want it and are pissed off, and that's why they 451 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: have McKay saying this, Well, we're not anticipating it. I 452 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: would expect some outrage in the media tomorrow. I would 453 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: expect more of what we got to get rid of 454 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: this crap equal freaking out, and I would not be 455 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: surprised if this was a hey, we need a push, 456 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: we need to help in the media. I personally don't 457 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 3: totally care about it, but I do believe that enough 458 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: people in the league. One my guess is it will 459 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: be banned. But you're what's your read on this? 460 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: I think it's definitely gonna get banned. 461 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, just because. 462 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: It's as much as we believe sports are a meritocracy 463 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: and it is something that we all kind of grew 464 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 4: up on. It's like, hey, that may the best man 465 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: win or the best team, whatever you want to say it. Nowadays, 466 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 4: first and foremost, it's an entertainment product. It's television, it's ratings, 467 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 4: it's eyeballs, and the tush push, as effective as it is, 468 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: is not good television. And the NFL knows that, and 469 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: that's why they've done all these rules to make sure 470 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 4: that the quarterbacks are as healthy as possible. They've eliminated. 471 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: You know, the defensives receiver hits. You know, you don't 472 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: get that anymore. You know, you can't hit a quarterback 473 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: anywhere within, you know, above his shoulders, below his waist, 474 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 4: and it's got to be you can't fall on. Like, 475 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 4: every possible rule is geared towards protecting the quarterback and 476 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: ensuring that the best product for television is available. And 477 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: the tush push is looks like a ruggery scrum. So 478 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: I'm telling you I would not be shocked. I actually 479 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 4: I would be shocked if it is still here in 480 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. 481 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, for what it's worth, the numbers are twenty twenty 482 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: four two hundred, sorry, one hundred and one toush pushes 483 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, one hundred and twelve, So not up 484 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: that much, but two teams, the Eagles and Bills, have 485 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: the lion's share of it. What I think concerns the league, 486 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: rob this is my guess, is that we started to 487 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: see like the Steelers and Seahawks not jeopardize their quarterback. 488 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: They started to bring in. 489 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: Tight ends to do the toushbush. I forget the guy 490 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 3: on the Steelers, but he didn't do much and all 491 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: he would do. 492 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: He was like their toushbush guy. And then the Seahawks 493 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: would do it with a tight end. 494 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: I think it was Barner because you know, they don't 495 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 3: want to jeopardize Sam Donald or whatever. But if you 496 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: just extrapolate that, if you're around the league, everyone should 497 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: have the toushpush in their bag. 498 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: No. 499 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, the problem is not everybody can do it. Well 500 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: that's the thing, Like that's the issue. 501 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: Well, but that's the thing. 502 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 3: The Steelers could not do it with Aaron Rodgers. They 503 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: can do it with the tight end pushing a tight end, 504 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy was mobile. 505 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: The Seahawks didn't want to do it with Donald, I forget. 506 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: I think it was Daniel Jones who got hurt doing 507 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: it or maybe cancussed, so they abandon that. 508 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: But everybody has someone on their team that can do 509 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: the tush push. 510 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: Everybody has one of these freek athletes who can squat 511 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 3: five hundred pounds and he's the perfect guy for the toushbush, right. 512 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Hurts is ideal. Josh Allen is a 513 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: cheat code. I think if they don't been, and my 514 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: guess would be we see more of it and not 515 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: just quarterbacks. 516 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: That would be my read. Would do you anticipate like it? 517 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: Don't you think every team should have that. You should 518 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: not be handing off on fourth and one, Roub, you 519 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: know that. 520 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: No, Yeah, and you should definitely not be doing what 521 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: the Steelers do where they sneak in a tight end 522 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: or a full back whatever to run the touch push, 523 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: but they leave Aaron Rodgers on the field and he's 524 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: standing there with his hands in his pocket. 525 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: Total waste. 526 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: It's a total waste of a player, Like you got 527 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 4: to have another person to push or just some kind 528 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: of extra thread out there if you're gonna be out there. 529 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 530 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: The thing is like everybody can do it, you know, 531 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: theoretically you said you can find a two hundred and 532 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 4: twenty five pound guy with strong legs to do it, right. 533 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: I think what makes what makes the Eagles one different 534 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: is that their interior offensive line is so good and 535 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: they're doing it for so long, so they've kind of 536 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: perfected that push and buffalo. Like how many guys are 537 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: built like Josh Allen, like anybody not just saying it 538 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 4: fullback or at time, Like, how many guys are six five, 539 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 4: two sixty in the NFL? Nowadays are built like a 540 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: tree trunk. Not many, not many. 541 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 3: We'll wrap up with this is this terrible story the 542 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: Rondale Moore, the Purdue star who was in the NFL 543 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: for a few years, only twenty five years old, died 544 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: over the weekend. According to the AP, it was a 545 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: self inflicted gunshot wound in his garage. It's funny because 546 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 3: when I I shouldn't say the word it's funny, but 547 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: I was like, I heard Rondeale Moore. 548 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: I was like, really, isn't He's still in the league, 549 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: isn't he? And then I looked it up. 550 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: And so he missed all of twenty twenty four because 551 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: he had the dislocated knee. And then in twenty twenty 552 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 3: five he goes to training camp with the Vikings and 553 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: suffers a knee injury on the other knee, so his 554 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 3: right knee last time, now it's his left knee, and 555 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: missed the whole season. 556 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: So you missed two seasons in a row. 557 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: And it's just devastating for this, you know, to go 558 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: down like this, and just an awful, awful story on 559 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 3: ronde Moore, and so many athletes came out and we're like, dude, 560 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: I was just dming with him last week. 561 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: Wow. You know football is tough. Bands, sports are hard. 562 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: Life is hard, and you know, prayers up to the 563 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 2: roundel Moore family. I remember that guy at Purdue. Just 564 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: an electric talent. The guy was a superstar. Uh, every 565 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: touch was so dynamic. I think he went in the 566 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: second round. And you know, just the life, life cut 567 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 2: too short. But we'll stop it there. We'll see tomorrow.