1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Hats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall of Fame, 5 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Mike Gravel. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,278 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 10 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 4: Good to be home, Good to see you, guys. 12 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:00,279 --> 00:01:04,599 Speaker 3: Hello, coach, you said last week on this show that 14 00:01:04,679 --> 00:01:07,758 Speaker 3: a win would fix everything. So is everything fixed? 15 00:01:08,158 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 5: Everything's not fixed. 16 00:01:09,119 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 6: What I would say is a lot of the things 17 00:01:11,039 --> 00:01:12,879 Speaker 6: that were happening over the last few weeks have been 18 00:01:12,919 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 6: symptoms of losing, and you have to win one game 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,758 Speaker 6: before you can start to stack them together. 20 00:01:17,799 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 5: So that's what I meant. 21 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: So symptoms of losing meaning just everybody is everyone. 22 00:01:23,119 --> 00:01:25,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not just in the building, it's outside. I 23 00:01:25,479 --> 00:01:27,318 Speaker 6: can't even go to a grocery store with out well, 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 6: maybe you should change the. 25 00:01:28,119 --> 00:01:30,238 Speaker 5: Time of practice. 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,878 Speaker 6: My mom calls me the solutions people in the building, 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,639 Speaker 6: like everyone has a solution, and what is your mom 28 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 6: recommending recommends this. 29 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 5: Play better, just play just coach better. 30 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:44,599 Speaker 3: Coach better, and play better. Well, that happened yesterday, And 31 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:47,078 Speaker 3: I think, you know, speaking of noise, a lot of 32 00:01:47,119 --> 00:01:50,519 Speaker 3: noise about you calling this football team soft and then 33 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:53,599 Speaker 3: saying they played soft. But seems like that you may 34 00:01:53,639 --> 00:01:56,359 Speaker 3: have known exactly what you were doing, uh, and that 35 00:01:56,639 --> 00:01:58,199 Speaker 3: these guys responded well to that. 36 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:00,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, the guys went out there and played well. I 37 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 6: tried to welcome back last week as far as calling 38 00:02:02,959 --> 00:02:06,079 Speaker 6: them so off. We played soft the last two games, 39 00:02:06,119 --> 00:02:07,439 Speaker 6: and that's what I meant, and I would say, those 40 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:09,319 Speaker 6: guys answer the challenge. I don't think we have soft 41 00:02:09,358 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 6: guys in the locker room. That's just the way we 42 00:02:11,439 --> 00:02:13,599 Speaker 6: played the last two weeks. And I thought they came 43 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:14,199 Speaker 6: out and played well. 44 00:02:14,239 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 7: Yes, Sir Gerd, I know that some of the guys, 45 00:02:17,079 --> 00:02:19,319 Speaker 7: especially the wide receiver group, and we're all like that, 46 00:02:19,478 --> 00:02:24,279 Speaker 7: guys who want the football. We're talking about being more productive, 47 00:02:24,478 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 7: having more opportunities. Seems like they got some chances yesterday 48 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:29,958 Speaker 7: and still had some drops. What are some of the 49 00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:32,559 Speaker 7: issues with maybe the drops that some of these guys 50 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 7: have to focus on a little bit better. 51 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:36,599 Speaker 5: The issue is the drop. So you're exactly right. 52 00:02:36,679 --> 00:02:39,199 Speaker 6: You know those guys they got open, and you know 53 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 6: good receivers, they get open, they catch the ball and 54 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 6: if they're really good, they run with it afterwards. And 55 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:46,719 Speaker 6: we had a bunch of we had a bunch of 56 00:02:46,799 --> 00:02:49,999 Speaker 6: drops yesterday. But those are things that we can correct 57 00:02:50,038 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 6: and look forward to those guys taking the next step. 58 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: But when it comes to correcting that, is that just 59 00:02:55,559 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: reps in practice? Is it a mental thing with some 60 00:02:58,279 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: of these guys. It seems like some you know, you 61 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:02,999 Speaker 3: brought this up a couple of weeks ago with us 62 00:03:03,038 --> 00:03:06,759 Speaker 3: where it's okay to talk and demand the football, but 63 00:03:06,758 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 3: then you got to deliver. 64 00:03:07,959 --> 00:03:11,319 Speaker 6: It seems like I still feel that way, and you 65 00:03:11,359 --> 00:03:13,719 Speaker 6: know a lot of people, well get onto jugs machines 66 00:03:13,799 --> 00:03:15,478 Speaker 6: and do all this and do all that at the 67 00:03:15,519 --> 00:03:17,039 Speaker 6: same time. You don't have a two hundred and fifty 68 00:03:17,038 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 6: pounds linebacker running at you at the same time. And 69 00:03:19,559 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 6: so some of those drops were across the middle. We 70 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,758 Speaker 6: had a couple on the outside. And it comes down 71 00:03:23,799 --> 00:03:24,999 Speaker 6: to concentration. 72 00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 8: When it comes to going into halftime. Yesterday, it seemed 73 00:03:27,399 --> 00:03:29,599 Speaker 8: like you guys were just trying to run the clock down. 74 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,039 Speaker 5: Exactly what we were trying to do. 75 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:34,439 Speaker 6: Anytime you lose your starting quarterback and the game plan 76 00:03:34,559 --> 00:03:38,639 Speaker 6: revolves around the starting your quarterback, and there's a major shift. 77 00:03:38,959 --> 00:03:41,559 Speaker 6: You know, we run the ball. If we pop that run, 78 00:03:41,639 --> 00:03:44,519 Speaker 6: then we'll get into our two minute or no huddle stuff. 79 00:03:44,559 --> 00:03:46,879 Speaker 6: But at the same time, it was an opportunity for 80 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:49,479 Speaker 6: us as a team in all three phases to hit 81 00:03:49,519 --> 00:03:52,679 Speaker 6: the reset button, go back, re energize, make our corrections, 82 00:03:52,679 --> 00:03:53,319 Speaker 6: to come out and play. 83 00:03:53,519 --> 00:03:55,719 Speaker 8: What was your message in the locker room at halftime 84 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 8: after doing so, Yeah. 85 00:03:56,639 --> 00:03:59,079 Speaker 6: The messaging was the same thing I said before the game. 86 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:02,559 Speaker 6: You know, thirty minutes before those guys got dressed and 87 00:04:02,679 --> 00:04:04,919 Speaker 6: it's the next minutup mentality. Before the game, we found 88 00:04:04,959 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 6: out that one of our best players wasn't able to 89 00:04:06,839 --> 00:04:08,879 Speaker 6: go and dug it and I challenged the rest of 90 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:10,799 Speaker 6: the guys like, look, it's the next man up. And 91 00:04:10,999 --> 00:04:13,399 Speaker 6: it stinks to find out, you know, that close to 92 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:15,159 Speaker 6: the game, but it happened. And the same thing in 93 00:04:15,239 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 6: the game when you're starting quarterback, who you expect to 94 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,878 Speaker 6: go out there and play four quarters more. If need 95 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 6: be goes down, it's the next minutut mentality. And I 96 00:04:23,919 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 6: told those guys at halftime, this is the opportunity for 97 00:04:26,599 --> 00:04:28,319 Speaker 6: us to go out there and support Jacobe and that's 98 00:04:28,318 --> 00:04:29,639 Speaker 6: by playing complimentary football. 99 00:04:29,678 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 5: I think that at. 100 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:34,999 Speaker 2: Times, jarn I thought last week was a massive week 101 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:37,959 Speaker 2: for you our perspective outside the building. But the noise 102 00:04:38,119 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: was that a fever pitch about walking back comments the 103 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: locker room these players. 104 00:04:43,438 --> 00:04:47,158 Speaker 5: When when has walking back comments ever been like a 105 00:04:47,159 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 5: big deal for me? 106 00:04:47,958 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 6: For me, it's for me though, like situations changed now 107 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 6: and I would always say I always reserve the right 108 00:04:53,078 --> 00:04:55,318 Speaker 6: could change my mind no matter what we're talking about, 109 00:04:55,558 --> 00:04:58,399 Speaker 6: who's starting, who's not starting, Like I always reserve that right. 110 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 6: And you know, we talk about transparency, which I've tried 111 00:05:01,159 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 6: to be with all of you guys, and to me, 112 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,238 Speaker 6: transparency is what I want you to see. I'm not 113 00:05:05,239 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 6: going to say everything that is under the curtain, no, 114 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,678 Speaker 6: But at the same time, the relationship with the media 115 00:05:10,719 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 6: I think is important. So even in saying that you 116 00:05:13,198 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 6: say it's a fever pitch for me, Uh, it doesn't 117 00:05:16,039 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 6: matter as long as my as long as the fan's straight, 118 00:05:18,239 --> 00:05:20,999 Speaker 6: I'm straight. This isn't really adversity for me. I think 119 00:05:20,999 --> 00:05:24,238 Speaker 6: it's a perspective thing. And I'm glad to hear you 120 00:05:24,239 --> 00:05:25,639 Speaker 6: say that the way you said it, because I think 121 00:05:25,678 --> 00:05:28,878 Speaker 6: some people perceive it to be a lack of experience 122 00:05:28,999 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 6: or somebody who's new in a job. 123 00:05:30,678 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: I think is where that. 124 00:05:32,119 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 5: I am doing a job. 125 00:05:33,239 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 6: And what I will say is just like I expect 126 00:05:35,318 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 6: from our team to get better each and every week. 127 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 6: I expect me as a head coach to get better 128 00:05:39,078 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 6: every every single week, and I you know, I demand 129 00:05:41,479 --> 00:05:43,999 Speaker 6: that from our assistant coaches as well. Like you guys 130 00:05:43,999 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 6: got to get better every single week. It doesn't matter 131 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 6: who the players are out on the field. We expect 132 00:05:48,479 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 6: to go out there and win and play winning football. 133 00:05:50,719 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: So are you also demanding from your assistance a new 134 00:05:54,239 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: touchdown celebration every week? Is there a name for that? 135 00:05:58,359 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 6: Look, I'm just happy we're scoring scoring touchdowns if they are, 136 00:06:01,479 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 6: So what's. 137 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 9: That part of the player now? 138 00:06:04,479 --> 00:06:07,558 Speaker 6: Honestly, you know when Kraft released the h he released 139 00:06:07,558 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 6: the shoes, you know, AVP was joking around like the 140 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 6: old kid and play like we're just out there having 141 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:14,199 Speaker 6: fun man. Look at the end of the day, Look, 142 00:06:14,239 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 6: winning is fun, and it's fun winning and that's kind 143 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 6: of our mindset. 144 00:06:18,958 --> 00:06:22,158 Speaker 2: Just what you totally nentwered that properly. And Greg is 145 00:06:22,159 --> 00:06:24,158 Speaker 2: waiting one day for me to actually do my job 146 00:06:24,198 --> 00:06:28,318 Speaker 2: well enough to celebrate. But the part of that huge 147 00:06:29,078 --> 00:06:33,758 Speaker 2: noise outside the building was led by the guy you replaced. 148 00:06:33,999 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: And I know you don't want to get into personal stuff, 149 00:06:35,958 --> 00:06:38,158 Speaker 2: but is it surprising on any level for you that 150 00:06:38,198 --> 00:06:40,558 Speaker 2: a guy you played for took you an eight overall, 151 00:06:40,919 --> 00:06:43,399 Speaker 2: worked on his staff for years, is so quick to 152 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:46,198 Speaker 2: criticize and sort of knock you when you're down. 153 00:06:46,558 --> 00:06:47,959 Speaker 5: Well, I was ten overall. 154 00:06:48,359 --> 00:06:51,038 Speaker 9: Sorry they traded back for. 155 00:06:52,039 --> 00:06:53,958 Speaker 5: They didn't trade back from me to ten, they traded 156 00:06:53,999 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 5: back from seven to ten. 157 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: Uh. 158 00:06:57,799 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 6: You know, Look, I learned a lot from from coach, 159 00:07:00,078 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 6: and you know I learned a lot on the field 160 00:07:02,039 --> 00:07:04,998 Speaker 6: off the field, all those things and saying that, you know, 161 00:07:05,039 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 6: I just gotta I have to do what I believe. 162 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:08,439 Speaker 5: In, And that's what it comes down to. 163 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,919 Speaker 4: Gerard isn't the most important thing. 164 00:07:10,919 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 7: And I think for us on the outside, we don't 165 00:07:14,599 --> 00:07:16,919 Speaker 7: really know what's being said on the inside. 166 00:07:16,958 --> 00:07:19,599 Speaker 4: And I think, yeah, it is, but then we have. 167 00:07:19,679 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 5: A problem, right. 168 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 7: Well, but a lot of the players they were saying, well, 169 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:27,439 Speaker 7: this is the message that Gerard was giving us before 170 00:07:27,519 --> 00:07:29,839 Speaker 7: he got to the media, and that the most important thing, 171 00:07:30,119 --> 00:07:32,399 Speaker 7: at least it was for me, is that what the 172 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:36,159 Speaker 7: players are getting before the media gets you know, you're 173 00:07:36,159 --> 00:07:38,319 Speaker 7: out there and you're giving you postgame interviews that kind 174 00:07:38,359 --> 00:07:38,559 Speaker 7: of thing. 175 00:07:39,119 --> 00:07:41,999 Speaker 6: Very I'm very open with the players. I'm very transparent, 176 00:07:42,078 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 6: you know. And you would know this being a player, 177 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:46,799 Speaker 6: like you have so many people around you that will lie. 178 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:48,999 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and they'll tell you it's not your fault. 179 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:51,799 Speaker 6: You know, well this should have happened. That should have happened. 180 00:07:52,039 --> 00:07:53,639 Speaker 6: And I feel like my job is to tell you 181 00:07:53,679 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 6: the truth. And I always I live in truth and 182 00:07:57,279 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 6: I have no reason to lie. My mom always used 183 00:07:59,119 --> 00:08:00,319 Speaker 6: to joke around, is it worth. 184 00:08:00,159 --> 00:08:00,759 Speaker 4: Going to hell over? 185 00:08:00,799 --> 00:08:04,039 Speaker 5: I'm like, no, Mom, No. So I try to be very. 186 00:08:03,919 --> 00:08:07,439 Speaker 6: Truthful and again like, no matter what the noise is outside, 187 00:08:07,479 --> 00:08:09,919 Speaker 6: I'm very upfront with our players, and I think they 188 00:08:09,958 --> 00:08:10,518 Speaker 6: appreciate that. 189 00:08:10,759 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 8: I know you've already said to media this morning that 190 00:08:12,719 --> 00:08:15,759 Speaker 8: Drake is in concussion protocol. When he came off the 191 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:19,839 Speaker 8: field yesterday. What was he feeling what went into him 192 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:21,759 Speaker 8: having to get checked out, And then I know you've 193 00:08:21,799 --> 00:08:23,879 Speaker 8: said that during halftime he said to you that he 194 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:25,639 Speaker 8: felt like he could go back out there. 195 00:08:25,759 --> 00:08:27,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a I mean, look, it was called 196 00:08:27,799 --> 00:08:29,958 Speaker 6: down from the league and they, you know, they wanted 197 00:08:29,958 --> 00:08:32,399 Speaker 6: to do further evaluation. You know when I went in 198 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:34,838 Speaker 6: there at halftime, he wanted to go back out there. 199 00:08:34,839 --> 00:08:37,759 Speaker 6: But obviously he didn't pass the test, and not going 200 00:08:37,839 --> 00:08:39,799 Speaker 6: to get too far into that, but you know, at 201 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:41,239 Speaker 6: the same time, he went out there and threw a 202 00:08:41,239 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 6: couple of good balls after. I guess I suppose I 203 00:08:44,239 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 6: would put him in the protocol. 204 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me get quick to the Helman's Mail question 205 00:08:49,078 --> 00:08:51,479 Speaker 3: of the week. You can purchase Helman's mayonnaise at your 206 00:08:51,479 --> 00:08:54,519 Speaker 3: local Walmart or grocery store to add extra deliciousness and 207 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: creamy flavor to your game day dishes this football season. 208 00:08:57,359 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: On that note, on Drake May Boomer Asiasin was on 209 00:09:00,719 --> 00:09:04,999 Speaker 3: with us earlier this morning talking about young quarterbacks who 210 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 3: want to run the ball and don't always take care 211 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:11,999 Speaker 3: of themselves. Is that something that you want to keep 212 00:09:12,359 --> 00:09:13,239 Speaker 3: reminding Drake May. 213 00:09:13,359 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 6: Now this goes back to like darn if you do, 214 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 6: darn if you don't, you know, and well, we should 215 00:09:19,599 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 6: put him in the first week, or we should put 216 00:09:20,999 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 6: him in here. And it's like, you know, you know 217 00:09:23,119 --> 00:09:25,159 Speaker 6: at a certain time, like we're always going to do 218 00:09:25,199 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 6: what's best for the football team. And look, the quarterback 219 00:09:28,039 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 6: is the most important position on the field. However you 220 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:33,958 Speaker 6: feel about that, you know, the quarterbacks in the most positioned, sorry, 221 00:09:33,959 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 6: the most important position on the field, and he has 222 00:09:36,999 --> 00:09:37,958 Speaker 6: to protect himself. 223 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 5: A little better. 224 00:09:38,319 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 3: You're sitting right next to a darned if you don't 225 00:09:41,599 --> 00:09:44,159 Speaker 3: guy who thinks your record would be four and four 226 00:09:44,199 --> 00:09:45,239 Speaker 3: if you had started draking. 227 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,479 Speaker 6: And the thing about it, that's fine for him to 228 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 6: have that opinion, Like everyone can have that opinion. We 229 00:09:50,359 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 6: also had a guy go out there and get hit 230 00:09:52,479 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 6: fifty times in four games or whatever it is, So 231 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 6: it's fine. 232 00:09:55,639 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 2: You told the CBS broadcast crew that Drake May had 233 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 2: a lot to be thankful for, not just in how 234 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: Jacoby Presett handles himself and learning, but that Jacoby Brissette 235 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,159 Speaker 2: took a beating in those first games that allowed Drake 236 00:10:08,199 --> 00:10:10,799 Speaker 2: May to come in healthy. What did you think of 237 00:10:10,919 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissette's comments after the game where he seemed to 238 00:10:14,479 --> 00:10:17,159 Speaker 2: take some of the slights personally from the media and 239 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: the fans as he went in and won that game 240 00:10:18,999 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: in the second half. 241 00:10:19,759 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 6: He's a competitor and I think, you know, if you 242 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 6: do listen to that stuff, you might as well make 243 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:25,159 Speaker 6: it a chip on your shoulder so you can go 244 00:10:25,199 --> 00:10:25,999 Speaker 6: out there and play hard. 245 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:30,119 Speaker 7: Well, give us a little insight because we hear from him, buddy, 246 00:10:30,119 --> 00:10:33,519 Speaker 7: he's very quiet and Christian Gonzales as far as what 247 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,639 Speaker 7: we have from him, you know, when he comes on 248 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 7: this he comes on this station, give us an insight 249 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 7: to what he's like as a player, as a person, 250 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 7: because he looks like he's has the potential to get 251 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 7: into an air of being one of the best corners 252 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:50,759 Speaker 7: in National Football League? 253 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 4: What makes him so special? 254 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:54,639 Speaker 7: Like it's been week after week with this guy going 255 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 7: against some great players. 256 00:10:55,759 --> 00:10:59,039 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say the corners, the good corners that 257 00:10:59,119 --> 00:11:02,039 Speaker 6: I've played with where we're talking about to leave or 258 00:11:02,159 --> 00:11:06,799 Speaker 6: well maybe not to leave, but Reavis and you know Gilmour, 259 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 6: some of these guys they're quiet off the field, but 260 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:13,039 Speaker 6: once they cross the white lines, it's all business. It's 261 00:11:13,079 --> 00:11:16,078 Speaker 6: all being a competitor. And that's Gonzo Like maybe you 262 00:11:16,119 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 6: can see. You can see it and try to get 263 00:11:17,599 --> 00:11:19,919 Speaker 6: whatever you want out of him as far as like talking, 264 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 6: But when he crossed the white lines. When he crosses 265 00:11:22,599 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 6: the white lines, he's a very good. 266 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 3: Player momentum wise. How big was the punt return yesterday? 267 00:11:27,839 --> 00:11:31,159 Speaker 6: It was huge And that goes back to the complimentary 268 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 6: football where you know three and out punt return and 269 00:11:33,719 --> 00:11:35,958 Speaker 6: we've been saying it for a while now. He's almost 270 00:11:36,039 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 6: popped a few this season, but you know, good part 271 00:11:39,359 --> 00:11:40,519 Speaker 6: returning that led to a touchdown. 272 00:11:40,599 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 5: That is that's what we're trying to do. 273 00:11:42,319 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 8: Does it feel like a respect thing when you hear 274 00:11:44,719 --> 00:11:46,919 Speaker 8: the outside noise? I know that you try to block 275 00:11:46,959 --> 00:11:49,639 Speaker 8: it out, but nobody had picked you guys to win 276 00:11:49,639 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 8: in this one. Then Drake goes down and I think 277 00:11:51,719 --> 00:11:54,078 Speaker 8: people expected the Jets to for you guys to just 278 00:11:54,199 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 8: roll over and die. Like does the team talk about that? 279 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 8: Do you guys use Do you feel like the guys 280 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:02,639 Speaker 8: use that to their advantage to go out there and 281 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:03,399 Speaker 8: prove people wrong. 282 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 5: We use the pressure just to get closer as a unit. 283 00:12:05,959 --> 00:12:08,999 Speaker 6: And once again, you know, it takes on the team, 284 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 6: takes on the personality of the head coach and the quarterback, 285 00:12:12,039 --> 00:12:13,958 Speaker 6: and for me, I'm anchored in something that's a lot 286 00:12:13,999 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 6: different than people agreeing or disagree with what I do 287 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:19,159 Speaker 6: and what I say. So I'm always going to do 288 00:12:19,199 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 6: what's best for the Patriot organization, and I think the 289 00:12:21,479 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 6: Craft family for allowing Elliott myself to run this organization. 290 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:29,239 Speaker 3: You surprised by where Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are 291 00:12:29,319 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: right now? 292 00:12:30,199 --> 00:12:33,879 Speaker 6: I can't, you know, Honestly, I don't get into the 293 00:12:33,959 --> 00:12:36,879 Speaker 6: other teams. I'm just worried about us. Well, I shouldn't 294 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 6: say worried about us, but my only concern is the Patriots. 295 00:12:39,799 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 4: Well, does being used to being in the media, does 296 00:12:43,719 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: it help you with being able to deal with some 297 00:12:47,359 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 4: of the criticism where people go, oh, he doesn't have experience, 298 00:12:52,839 --> 00:12:54,479 Speaker 4: or which I don't. 299 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,119 Speaker 7: You know, You've been coaching in the NFL for eight years, 300 00:12:57,119 --> 00:12:59,639 Speaker 7: so I don't really understand what that is. But does 301 00:12:59,719 --> 00:13:02,519 Speaker 7: being in the media help with you not letting that 302 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,958 Speaker 7: frustrate you? 303 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:07,639 Speaker 6: You know, I learned very early in my career at Tennessee. 304 00:13:07,719 --> 00:13:11,239 Speaker 6: I learned even here in the NFL not to don't 305 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:16,279 Speaker 6: google yourself, don't pull don't type your name in the Twitter. Hey, 306 00:13:16,319 --> 00:13:18,399 Speaker 6: I learned that as a player, and I was Rookie 307 00:13:18,439 --> 00:13:20,919 Speaker 6: of the Year, and after my rookie year, I was like, 308 00:13:21,239 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 6: you know, everyone around here and everyone around me, I 309 00:13:24,199 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 6: guess it's fickle for the most part, except for my 310 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,639 Speaker 6: my inner circle. So and once again like it's the fan. Look, 311 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:32,119 Speaker 6: they pay for those tickets and they expect to see 312 00:13:32,119 --> 00:13:33,119 Speaker 6: a team that goes out. 313 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:34,999 Speaker 5: There and performs with all and wins. I understand that. 314 00:13:35,239 --> 00:13:38,919 Speaker 6: I understand you guys have to you know, sell advertisements. 315 00:13:38,999 --> 00:13:42,919 Speaker 6: I understand all that stuff. And so for me, winning 316 00:13:42,999 --> 00:13:46,519 Speaker 6: cures all. And I would say, you know, building a sustainable, 317 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 6: winning organization for the future is also top of mine. 318 00:13:49,919 --> 00:13:51,879 Speaker 3: And just you know, you talk about it all the time, 319 00:13:52,079 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 3: being transparent, and that's what I love about getting the 320 00:13:54,479 --> 00:13:57,119 Speaker 3: opportunity to have you address all this stuff. I know 321 00:13:57,159 --> 00:14:00,239 Speaker 3: you essentially said this week you didn't have an issue 322 00:14:00,239 --> 00:14:03,479 Speaker 3: with guys and how they're conducting themselves when they're not 323 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 3: on the field. 324 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,639 Speaker 6: You know, Can I just go back to that, like 325 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 6: guys being out in London simply not true and so 326 00:14:12,159 --> 00:14:18,159 Speaker 6: and so those stories continue to come out where it's 327 00:14:18,239 --> 00:14:20,399 Speaker 6: just not true, not true. So I'm not sure where 328 00:14:20,439 --> 00:14:22,359 Speaker 6: it's coming from, But I mean you got. Everyone has 329 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:24,959 Speaker 6: their sources. Again, working in the media, I understand how 330 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:26,199 Speaker 6: that works, but it's simply not true. 331 00:14:26,319 --> 00:14:27,839 Speaker 9: So nobody miss curfew in London. 332 00:14:28,079 --> 00:14:28,719 Speaker 5: I'm saying this. 333 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:31,639 Speaker 6: We we didn't every I'm saying this, we did not 334 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:34,039 Speaker 6: have people out in London. That's what I'm saying. I'm 335 00:14:34,079 --> 00:14:35,879 Speaker 6: not going back to London. I don't want to go 336 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:36,519 Speaker 6: back to London. 337 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:39,839 Speaker 5: Is this me going back? I don't want I'm not 338 00:14:39,999 --> 00:14:40,679 Speaker 5: walking it back. 339 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:44,279 Speaker 6: What I'm saying is Nashville very probably put some restrictions 340 00:14:44,279 --> 00:14:46,999 Speaker 6: in place down there. Listen, the guys in the locker room, 341 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:48,359 Speaker 6: they do what we need to do to go out 342 00:14:48,359 --> 00:14:52,639 Speaker 6: there and perform and look well when or whatever happens happens. 343 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:54,519 Speaker 6: But at the same time, these guys are professionals and 344 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:55,479 Speaker 6: they've acted that way. 345 00:14:56,239 --> 00:14:59,239 Speaker 3: How you know, I know you can't be specific, but 346 00:14:59,439 --> 00:15:01,799 Speaker 3: Drake may you think he's we won't see him for 347 00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:06,119 Speaker 3: a while or what's I'm not sure you're yeah, Okay, Yeah, 348 00:15:06,159 --> 00:15:06,599 Speaker 3: that's honest. 349 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:08,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, that is honest. The internet that got me on 350 00:15:08,199 --> 00:15:11,959 Speaker 7: alcohol priceis went at stadium. So I don't believe anything 351 00:15:11,999 --> 00:15:13,639 Speaker 7: I see on the end of the Okay. 352 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:23,319 Speaker 10: Absolutely, you're thereout yeah, but you just instagram to. 353 00:15:25,119 --> 00:15:27,319 Speaker 5: Headlines on instagraming story. 354 00:15:29,199 --> 00:15:30,759 Speaker 9: Says he was coaching. You're at Brock. 355 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:33,279 Speaker 5: I don't believe anything on the internet. 356 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:36,119 Speaker 3: No, speaking of coaching. Just before you go a little 357 00:15:36,199 --> 00:15:38,799 Speaker 3: little back and forth between you and coach Wiggins. So 358 00:15:38,879 --> 00:15:40,319 Speaker 3: I want to it was off air, but I want 359 00:15:40,359 --> 00:15:43,239 Speaker 3: to ask you, how would you have defended on that? 360 00:15:43,319 --> 00:15:44,839 Speaker 3: Jaydon Daniels Hill Mary. 361 00:15:45,319 --> 00:15:49,799 Speaker 6: Look, First of all, we said, we said to hell, 362 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:52,199 Speaker 6: Mary is a fifty to fifty ball, and it's not. 363 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:54,359 Speaker 3: And that's what we say, fifty fifty ball. 364 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:56,439 Speaker 6: You know, we say we can say whatever we want to. 365 00:15:56,519 --> 00:15:58,759 Speaker 6: It comes down to execution. Whether you want to rush 366 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:00,959 Speaker 6: it or you want to cover it comes down to execution. 367 00:16:01,119 --> 00:16:04,479 Speaker 6: And you can't have a free guy behind everyone else 368 00:16:04,519 --> 00:16:06,039 Speaker 6: with nobody boxing them out. 369 00:16:06,239 --> 00:16:09,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about other guys like taunting the opposing fans? 370 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:09,599 Speaker 3: Is that good? 371 00:16:09,599 --> 00:16:11,919 Speaker 5: While going Yeah, look, if you're gonna do that, you 372 00:16:11,959 --> 00:16:12,919 Speaker 5: better go out there make. 373 00:16:12,839 --> 00:16:16,359 Speaker 6: A play again, going back to how look you could talk. 374 00:16:16,439 --> 00:16:17,919 Speaker 6: All I know is you want to, but you better 375 00:16:17,999 --> 00:16:19,839 Speaker 6: back it up, don't You were that guy at the 376 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:21,439 Speaker 6: basketball court like risk band? 377 00:16:26,239 --> 00:16:28,599 Speaker 3: All right, Coach Mayo, great to see, a great job, 378 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,639 Speaker 3: great win for sure. 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Let's 388 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:53,319 Speaker 9: just get one thing done. 389 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:56,039 Speaker 3: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can 390 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:56,639 Speaker 3: move along. 391 00:16:56,719 --> 00:16:58,199 Speaker 9: That's kind of my biggest thing. 392 00:16:58,239 --> 00:17:00,919 Speaker 1: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.