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<v Speaker 1>Oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, boy boys, it's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm strong Andy.

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<v Speaker 1>Two different thoughts slash topics about young men, one serious,

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<v Speaker 1>one seriously stupid. The first one I thought this is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. I've been sitting on it for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>It's seeking to explain some of the young men nihilist

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<v Speaker 1>alt right angry you know whatever Croyper thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see that video over the weekend of Nick

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<v Speaker 3>Fuintes and some of those other well known influencers of

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<v Speaker 3>that whole super aggressive male Nazi thing, And they're riding

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<v Speaker 3>on a bus. They're going out partying and listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the Kanye West Hyle Hitler song. Did you see that?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's really arming. So they posted it themselves. They're

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<v Speaker 3>playing the Kanye West hil Hitler and they're all smiling

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<v Speaker 3>and laughing and waving their hands in the air about

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<v Speaker 3>how cool that is that they're Nazis singing the Nazi song.

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<v Speaker 2>They are human rage bait ah yes, correct, and engagement bait.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, here is and to the extent

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not that the people, the young men particularly

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<v Speaker 1>who are into it and follow that. I'm I don't

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<v Speaker 1>just want to yell at them that you're stupid. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to understand them. Ah so, and this is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, this is just a short part of a

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<v Speaker 1>long reflection on the Trump coalition and why it's cracking

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<v Speaker 1>up a bit. And this are this author takes a

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<v Speaker 1>look at different, you know, aspects of the support for

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and and he turns his attention to your Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Fuentes Tucker Carlson thing in the Heritage Foundation Delio. And

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<v Speaker 1>he writes this, many observers still imagine this America First

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<v Speaker 1>Revolt as a spontaneous bottom up development, young men alienated

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<v Speaker 1>by economic and cultural collapse simply discovering isolationism and conspiratorial

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<v Speaker 1>politics on their own. That story is half true at best.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where he gets to his point, what's actually happening

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<v Speaker 1>in What's actually happened is simpler and more deliberate. For

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<v Speaker 1>two decades, progressive institutions racialized every public discourse, taught an

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<v Speaker 1>entire generation of boys that their skin color made them

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<v Speaker 1>inherently suspect, and demonized the traditional markers of male identity, strength, duty, faith, family,

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<v Speaker 1>nation as forms of toxic oppression. The result was not

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<v Speaker 1>a political movement, but a wide spread kind of non

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<v Speaker 1>coherent mood of distrust, and he numbers the aspects of it.

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<v Speaker 1>One nothing works anymore. Two the system is rigged. Three

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<v Speaker 1>the people in charge hate us and always will.

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<v Speaker 2>Four.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything they tell us to care about democracy abroad, allies,

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<v Speaker 1>global leadership is just another way to bleed the country dry.

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<v Speaker 1>That mood is real, it is raw. It is also

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<v Speaker 1>politically malleable. I think about myself if I had been

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<v Speaker 1>raised and schooled in that getting that message and that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that environment, it would end it very very badly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Because you know, if you if somebody keeps telling

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<v Speaker 3>you over and over again, you should be upset and

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<v Speaker 3>miserable because look at the way you're being treated, even

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<v Speaker 3>though the reality is you live in a perfectly fine house.

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<v Speaker 3>You got plenty of food, you're healthy, you got all

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<v Speaker 3>the things that human beings have wanted forever. But if

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<v Speaker 3>somebody constantly told you no, no, no, there's somebody else

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<v Speaker 3>with more and they're keeping you from having it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you could you you would do would twist you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what about the part that I was just saying though,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're told your piece of crap because you're masculine,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>White, your entire life or would that leave you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, even if it's not well, if somebody's telling

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<v Speaker 3>you that all the time, yeah, it's gonna it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get into your system.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and yeah, oh my god, did we.

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<v Speaker 1>Fall asleep at the switch letting our education system become that?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Aspect of the Nick Fuentes thing in that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have sex and all that is just so weird to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that that responds to the sexual aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of what I was just talking about, what I was

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<v Speaker 1>just reading about, where you know, any if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, put your hand on top of a

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<v Speaker 1>girl's hand, that's sexual.

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<v Speaker 2>Assault unless you've gotten her permission.

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<v Speaker 1>And women have become militantly progressive and the rest of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could be discovering and kicked out of college

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<v Speaker 3>based on her word with no uh, no investigation or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that, and even.

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<v Speaker 2>Though it turns out she's a psycho batch or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah cycle wow, the technical term the uh so you

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<v Speaker 1>would you would say the same thing about sex as

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<v Speaker 1>you would about democracy abroad, allies, global leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>Et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's I don't care about that because everybody who's

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<v Speaker 1>been pushing that's a liar and says I'm a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of crap.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean clearly it's true to a certain extent.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we know the statistics on people coupling and having sex.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just surprising to me. I mean, you can convince

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<v Speaker 3>me that there's global this or that, but man, my

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<v Speaker 3>desire to get some is like in my genes. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to overcome that, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if the emotional beatings, because that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>school system has been for young men, particularly young white men,

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<v Speaker 1>It's been an emotional beating over and over again, that

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<v Speaker 1>that might be enough to you know, end your sex drive.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think we did the experiment. We've seen the result.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would agree. Yeah. So two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, I apologize we should have been better. And

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<v Speaker 1>number two, I wonder if this generation will be written

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<v Speaker 1>about like the Lost Generation and various notable generations young

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<v Speaker 1>men through history. Almost certainly, Yeah, it'll be robots doing

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<v Speaker 1>the writing, thanks to Elon and the crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>But youah, add in some porn addiction and a couple

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<v Speaker 3>other things, and then it just gets it gets bad fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmm mmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, that's the serious part, and it depressed the crap

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<v Speaker 1>out of me. Here's the less serious part, although it's

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<v Speaker 1>also uneffing believable. I'm sure you've looked that. You followed this,

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen the articles the boys breaking their bones to

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<v Speaker 1>be hotter. In online forums for looks Maxers, teenage boys

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<v Speaker 1>share tips on how to get jacked, sharpen your jawline,

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<v Speaker 1>and suppress your appetite with meth.

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<v Speaker 3>My son, my youngest, was talking about the whole jawline

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<v Speaker 3>thing when he was like nine, has like, I'd never

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<v Speaker 3>heard of the concept of a jaw line when I

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<v Speaker 3>was a little tiny kid, and who's got the right

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<v Speaker 3>jaw line and all that sort of stuff that's not Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel Blank was thirteen when he became obsessed with improving

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<v Speaker 1>his looks, and at fifteen or sixteen, he started doing

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<v Speaker 1>facial exercises he'd learned about in YouTube videos that are

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<v Speaker 1>facial exercise promised to give him a more contoured face.

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<v Speaker 2>Katie, your hipped at all.

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<v Speaker 1>This right now?

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<v Speaker 4>These are being pushed all over social media in these

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<v Speaker 4>different rubber balls you can bite on that make your cats.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me get just real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>A few years later, he started bone smashing another technique

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<v Speaker 1>he'd learned online, which involved hitting himself in the face

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<v Speaker 1>with a hammer one minute in each place every day,

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<v Speaker 1>in an effort to create microfractures.

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<v Speaker 2>In his jaw line and cheekbones.

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<v Speaker 1>The bones were supposed to get bigger as they healed,

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<v Speaker 1>giving him a more chiseled look.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote. I got a permanent swelling, he told me. But

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<v Speaker 2>it looked good.

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<v Speaker 3>So uh. We don't like criticizing children, but I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like a human that hits themselves in the face with

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<v Speaker 3>a hammer. I don't know that's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's that the crime is its own punishment.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I just there's gotta be a Darwin thing

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<v Speaker 3>there at some level, isn't it. You're a person that

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<v Speaker 3>hits themselves in the face with a hammer.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, this guy I'm quoting his well known

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five year old Swedish influencer, Okay, he started doing

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<v Speaker 1>Massi jumps, named for a tribe of towering East African herders.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing the twenty five year old Swedish influencer

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<v Speaker 1>does regret is the time he injected the bottoms of

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<v Speaker 1>his heels with highluronic acid.

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<v Speaker 2>To make himself taller.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, I give up, so yeah, mean too. Tell me

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<v Speaker 3>more about these facial exercises, because my head, as everyone knows,

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<v Speaker 3>is round as a basketball. It's like a perfect sphere

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<v Speaker 3>that usually can only be created in space.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's A Mexican drug dealer once called you not

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<v Speaker 1>only Charlie Brown, but mister clean.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true, this is true. What are some of

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<v Speaker 3>these faces exercises?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? You know, I was sneezing uncontrollably. I hit my

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<v Speaker 1>hir called to cough button. But they certainly will work

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<v Speaker 1>well for sneezing. I wanted to finish the injecting his

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<v Speaker 1>heels thing. It basically created a big like round thing

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<v Speaker 1>in my heels. From what I could gather, the treatment

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<v Speaker 1>was like implanting high heels in the soles of your foot.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote. I was walking on my tippy toes a bit

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<v Speaker 2>and the results didn't even last.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote. When you walk every day with all the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>from the ground, the filler gets flatter. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep injecting myself with filler all the time just

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<v Speaker 1>to get some extra inches and inches.

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<v Speaker 3>It couldn't have been inches, It couldn't have been multiple inches.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a quote from him.

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<v Speaker 3>How much better was your life being a half inch taller, dude?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you really notice it? Being really a fantastic worth

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<v Speaker 3>the pain and the odd way to get there? Stop

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<v Speaker 3>the hammering?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you'd have to buy new pants, right unless, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the short pants are kind of in.

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<v Speaker 2>And so on. These looks masking discord chats, for.

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<v Speaker 3>Instance, Yeah I need the face exercises.

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<v Speaker 1>Where boys as young as fourteen exchange tips. Someone's always

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<v Speaker 1>asking for advice and someone's always giving it. Questions range

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<v Speaker 1>from the benign, something as simple as a request for

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<v Speaker 1>advice on a more flattering haircut, to the alarming quote.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started MEF like a week ago because I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get hollow cheeks. But now my heart has

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<v Speaker 1>been acting really weird again. But BPM has been randomly

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<v Speaker 1>rising up by like thirty when I'm just chilling, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of worried. Should I get myself checked by a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor or something. I just think this is natural selection.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>The de facto of initiation ceremony in spaces like this

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<v Speaker 1>is to have your face bluntly rated on the PSL scale.

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<v Speaker 1>The acronym unites the initials of three controversial early Manisphere forums,

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<v Speaker 1>the PUA Hate, slut Hate, and Lookism. So it's the

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<v Speaker 1>PSL scale. It's an intricate scoring system that measures everything

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<v Speaker 1>from facial symmetry to eyebrow thickness. When I answered a

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<v Speaker 1>look maxing forum a couple of weeks ago to begin

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<v Speaker 1>researching this piece, one of the first posts I saw

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<v Speaker 1>was from a fourteen year old boy who was asking

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<v Speaker 1>to be rated brutally. He added, he was told to

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<v Speaker 1>get a skull transplant.

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<v Speaker 3>Geez, I've seen this on Reddit a lot, these forums.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's there's tons of these where you go on

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<v Speaker 3>there and you put your face on there, or your

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<v Speaker 3>your ass or whatever part of your body you want rated,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's always like, I want complete honesty here, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you think? And so your eyes are too close together,

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<v Speaker 3>your nose is too bigger, blah blah blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think and these are usually young people. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>who wants random idiots? Probably a hole's opinion, because who

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<v Speaker 3>who goes on there and rates other people? Who wants

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<v Speaker 3>that opinion in your head for the rest of your life?

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<v Speaker 3>And what a weird thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the uncomfortably true part. Although this it's all craziness.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's this, there's no caveat. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>looks Maxer's view of the world, being outstanding physically attractive

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<v Speaker 1>is outstandingly physically attractive is the only path to a

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<v Speaker 1>successful career or a good social life. It's also the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to get a girlfriend. In these forums, men

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<v Speaker 1>seem to accept the idea that women are hypergammus by nature,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning they are hardwired to date only the most attractive men,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the past, before women's rights, their lack of

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<v Speaker 1>power forced them to settle for lesser males. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>a few guys are the only guys getting laid on

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<v Speaker 1>dating sites, which we've heard over and over again is true.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I chew on the rubber balls, what's that

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<v Speaker 3>going to do for me? Katie? About my round head?

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<v Speaker 3>I got to help my jaw line or.

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<v Speaker 2>Chairs old jaw. You got the big jaw the movie Jaw.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently it enhances the muscles along your jaw line. That

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<v Speaker 4>I saw another contraption that looks like headgear from when

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<v Speaker 4>you wore braces, and it goes under your jaw that

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<v Speaker 4>you have to open it it's supposed to work the muscles.

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<v Speaker 1>In the other way, big jaw muscles, because that's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just the bone structure or you're born with. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why you get a hammer yourself with a hammer, right. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know lifting weights, if you do it right,

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<v Speaker 1>the up and the is. The down is as valuable

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<v Speaker 1>as the up if you do them slowly. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the jaw thing is. So I'm getting the down

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on the rubber balls, and then I need some

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<v Speaker 1>are they chomping down? And then I need that the apparatus,

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<v Speaker 1>the apparatus I wear on my head that I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start wearing around because that'll definitely help me get dates.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll wear this head apparatus that'll help exercise the opening

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<v Speaker 1>of the mouth, so then closure will be the balls

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<v Speaker 1>opening will be and pretty soon on big muscular jawline.

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<v Speaker 1>And imagine how much better on my.

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<v Speaker 3>Life would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, then do your massage jumps and get a little

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<v Speaker 1>taller and you'll be in tall clover. So here's the

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<v Speaker 1>insidious part of this, and it's as old as time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at a picture of a couple of these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like ridiculously good looking, the Swedish guys all right,

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<v Speaker 1>who are selling the idea that you not only can

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<v Speaker 1>you look like them, but you must look like them.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, though, because you know, as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>I've spent some time on some of these dating websites,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure that statistically it is true the best

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<v Speaker 3>looking dudes are having lots of promiscuous sex in you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one night stance. But for the people who are actually

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<v Speaker 3>on there looking for a boyfriend or a girlfriend, there's

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<v Speaker 3>tons of women who say, looking for a dad bod,

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to be I mean, I see that a

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<v Speaker 3>regular more than you would think. It's more a regular

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<v Speaker 3>guy who's nice to me. You see that sort of

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<v Speaker 3>thing a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear that sort of thing from my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>Zach a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect man. It's a shame I'm on the bench. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, let's end on a lighter note, shall we. So

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<v Speaker 1>this one influencer, dude clav which is short as Clavicular,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, He's made the news a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>in recent months, partly in one he allegedly hits someone

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<v Speaker 1>with a cyber truck during live stream.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is neither here nor there.

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<v Speaker 1>A few days later, he appeared in an interview with

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<v Speaker 1>The Daily Wires Michael Knowles, who was aghast when Clav

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<v Speaker 1>told him he'd vote for Gavin Newsom over JD Vance

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<v Speaker 1>because the California Governor moggs, well, the vice president is

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<v Speaker 1>sub human. Subhuman is the very bottom tier of the

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<v Speaker 1>Looks maxim community's elaborate scale of male attractiveness. The other

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<v Speaker 1>categories are low tier, normy, mid tier Normy, high tier normy,

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<v Speaker 1>Chad light, and at the top Chad oh Man. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>being subhuman and dreaming of chadhood all the day long.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a chew on the rubber balls. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do starting today. I'm gonna get to come

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<v Speaker 3>those bouncy balls, like out of the thing you get gumballs,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the one next bounce guy like a plastic ring,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the one next to it's got the rubber balls.

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<v Speaker 3>You bounce when you start chewing.

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<v Speaker 2>Subhuman.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're on your way. I'm on my way, just

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<v Speaker 3>working on my job. Here there you go, it's your hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>You just doing his my side jumpings.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I guess that's it. Son, your mom and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk to you stop hitting yourself in

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<v Speaker 3>the face with a hammer.