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Speaker 3: What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 3: Chargers Weekly, has always joined by Matt Buddy Smith. Taping

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Speaker 3: this on June twenty seventh. Not a ton going on

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Speaker 3: in the NFL world, But you know what the NBA

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Speaker 3: draft is this week? And Buddy, I couldn't tell you

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Speaker 3: any of the guys who were drafted, like it's it's

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Speaker 3: it's one of those drafts where's uh? I almost liked

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Speaker 3: it to the was it the who's the who's the

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Speaker 3: guy that was drafted by the Calves from UNLV?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I was thinking of the Andrea Bargnani draft

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Speaker 2: when he went number one to.

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Speaker 3: The raft Anthony Bennett. Thank you, great Kim, Anthony Bennett.

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Speaker 3: The Anthony Bennett Draft. Uh So that's kind of where

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Speaker 3: we are that not even the NBA draft has as

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Speaker 3: much hype as as an NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: No, but it's just a dot.

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Speaker 2: Next year it's gonna be Mayhem with with Apa Ailey

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Speaker 2: and Cooper Flag and all those folks. But excited for

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Speaker 2: the dude the Lakers got, that's for sure. Dalton Connect,

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Speaker 2: what a great story. It's a it's an Austin Eckler

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Speaker 2: type of story. Right, Uh, you know, Northern Colorado from

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Speaker 2: a Colorado JC and then thanks to the trans and

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Speaker 2: you know what. That's not to get too deep into

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Speaker 2: this thing, but that's one of the great things about

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Speaker 2: the transfer portal, right, is here's someone that was able

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Speaker 2: to showcase himself on a level that otherwise, you know,

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Speaker 2: all the people would say, wow, level of competition, didn't

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Speaker 2: get to do anything in the tournament. Yet you get

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Speaker 2: the one year at Tennessee, you and Zachied you have

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Speaker 2: this historic Elite eight battle and you know, next thing,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're the the.

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Speaker 1: The the MVP of the SEC.

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Speaker 2: You're Americal American and you're going to be playing next

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Speaker 2: to Lebron James in a Lakers uniform.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty sweet.

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Speaker 2: Good story, Dalton connects say, a really really cool story.

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Speaker 3: That's cool. Yeah, he will be countered on to contribute

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Speaker 3: right away, as opposed to some of the guys that

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Speaker 3: first two minutes of the pod. Bundy a big news

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Speaker 3: I guess this week is the announcement of training camp

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Speaker 3: think we have twelve public practices at Elson Gundo at

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Speaker 3: the Bolt that you can pre register for, and then

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Speaker 3: there is a joint practice between the Chargers in the

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams. I think that is for season ticket

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Speaker 3: the training camp schedule looks like. That joint practice with

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Speaker 3: the Rams. Obviously that is valuable work. And you know,

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Speaker 3: the million dollar question is how coach Harball is going

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Speaker 3: to utilize those preseason games this year. Is it going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go back to what you said about

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Speaker 2: the years we've been going out to Jack Hammett. Now

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Speaker 1: Am Ike squeezing one more vacation? Here? Can I get

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Speaker 2: Sixteenth rookies on the sixteenth, it's a couple of weeks away. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that's important to remember is that

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Speaker 2: I and I think for a team like the Chargers, Chris,

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Speaker 2: you're you're talking about your first three picks. Joe Walt

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Speaker 2: you know, so they don't hit the rookie wall and

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Speaker 1: What have we heard.

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Speaker 3: I think coach Harball has maximized that window as much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the you know, I wanted to pull it up,

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Speaker 2: What's training camp going to look like? It's the Mike

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Speaker 2: I just think it's difficult to box without sparring, is

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Speaker 2: what has Mike Tomlin done? And when have they won

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Speaker 2: And that's a guy that says, no, you got to

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Speaker 1: And they're like.

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Speaker 2: Whatever with that, We're gonna we're going to take advantage

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Speaker 3: has said, hey, can you imagine Justin Herbert with a

435
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Speaker 3: running game? So it's not going to be, you know,

436
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 3: Justin throwing the ball twelve times. I don't think it's going.

437
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: To be that.

438
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 3: But I don't know if I'm sure.

439
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm saying. It's I know exactly what you're saying.

440
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I brought this up here,

441
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: if it was something that Lorenzo and I were talking about.

442
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 2: But this is my counter to that. Who's the number

443
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: one rushing team in the league, The team that runs

444
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: it more than anyone else, that has built an offense

445
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: around their running game made it the Super Bowl last year.

446
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey MVP voting. That is a team that runs.

447
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan's offense is predicated on the success of running

448
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: wide zone and there's a reason why he traded four

449
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 2: draft picks and is paying Christian McCaffrey a thirty percent

450
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: premium over any other back in the league because he's

451
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: that valuable of a player, so that when you look

452
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: at it, it's who's the most important player on offense

453
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers, Christian McCaffrey. Right, what did

454
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: Brock Purty do last year? Finish third in MVP voting,

455
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 2: fifth in passing yards, third in touchdown passes, and first

456
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 2: in quarterback rating. Guy threw for forty three hundred yards

457
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: thirty one touchdowns, had a quarterback rating of one hundred

458
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Speaker 2: and thirteen.

459
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Speaker 1: And he was playing in an offense that.

460
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Speaker 2: Is predicated on the success of wide zone and Christian McCaffrey.

461
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Speaker 1: The numbers are going to be there. The numbers can

462
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Speaker 1: be there.

463
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Speaker 2: It's when I dug this up, so Alex Smith, and

464
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 2: it's a different Remember it was a different time ten

465
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: years ago. Might as well have been fifty years ago

466
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL, the way offenses were operating and what

467
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: was valued. And think about how important Frank Gore was

468
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: to coach Harbaugh. I think he said its favorite player

469
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Speaker 2: he's ever coached. So that San Francisco offense was when

470
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: he came in, was built around the running game, a

471
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: round offensive line around Frank Gore and Alex Smith threw

472
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Speaker 2: it four hundred and forty five times. It's not a

473
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: huge number, but it's up there. First year eight of

474
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: his sixteen games, he threw it over thirty times. And

475
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Speaker 2: that was Alex Smith, who up to that point was

476
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Speaker 2: considered a bust. And it had led a San Francisco

477
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: team to sub five hundred seasons. I think three wins

478
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: one year, six wins the next. And yet here's coach

479
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: Harbaugh with Frank Gore, his favorite player, throwing it four

480
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 2: hundred forty five times. Not with Justin Herbert, who's already

481
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: proven he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league

482
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: and in the conversation, is the best thrower in the league.

483
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Speaker 2: That was with Alex Smith. He was still winning to

484
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Speaker 2: throw it around that much Herbert. To put it in perspective,

485
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: last year, in just thirteen games, Herbert threw a four

486
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty six that's how much he was throwing

487
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: the ball. So that's that's something. And let me just

488
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: pull up Brock's attempts last year. So last year he

489
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: only attempted four hundred and forty four passes. Herbert threw

490
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: twelve more passes in four fewer games than Brock Purdy.

491
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Speaker 2: Yet look at the production that Perdy had, look at

492
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Speaker 2: how effective he was with a dominant run game, and

493
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: at one thirteen quarterback rating and thirty one touchdowns eleven

494
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: more touchdowns, And it's fair to point out the weapons

495
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: around him and the fact that McCaffrey on a little

496
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: dump off can take it forty yards to the house.

497
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 2: And you got George Kittle, and you've got Brandon Ayuk

498
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: and Depot and all these guys that get a ton

499
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Speaker 2: of yak. But that's what I'm getting at, is you

500
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: what your system may be, you can find the strengths

501
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 2: of your quarterback and play to those. And that to

502
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: me is it's like, Okay, would you sign up for

503
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: brock party season for Justin Herbert right now? Of course

504
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: you would sign up thirty one touchdowns, Q rating of

505
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: one thirteen, sixty nine percent completion rate and forty two

506
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: and eight yards.

507
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Speaker 1: Of course you would. Of course you would.

508
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 3: And that just illustrates the key to the season. It's

509
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 3: the running game. Like you say, Christ McCaffrey is the

510
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: best running back in football. They're there. They paid a

511
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: premium for him. Uh Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins didn't

512
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: pay as much for those guys. But JK. Dobbins has

513
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: the potential to do. You know, I want to say

514
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: it's it's probably hard to say because he's been you know,

515
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: that's a helles jury, is a big time injury, but

516
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: it is if he's ready to go, Man, he could

517
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: put up top ten, top twelve numbers in the NFL.

518
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: But it's gonna take that collective of Gus, JK. Spiller, Videll, Videll,

519
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: Right Ydell by Dell Dell. I'm gonna mess it up

520
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: every week now because I'm thinking about it.

521
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Speaker 1: It looks like Vidal, but whether it's Vidal soon or Ed.

522
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Ed, I'm sorry.

523
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: Yes, it looks like Vidal, but it's Yadell according to

524
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: the pronunciation guide at Troy University.

525
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: But the running game, money in the offensive line, like

526
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: that's going to be the biggest key to this season

527
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 3: because they're gonna want to play that way. And if

528
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: they can play that way and you can cater to

529
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: Justin's strengths, who has more ability than brock Party, then hey,

530
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: you're cooking, you know. But that running game Gus and

531
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Speaker 3: JK and who emerges is that their running back is

532
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: going to be something that is going to be very

533
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: intriguing throughout preseason and training camps.

534
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Speaker 2: Would what would you rather have. And I know when

535
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: you look back and you see the results, it's easy

536
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: to pick. But I'm just saying, even with Justin Herbert.

537
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: So last year we mentioned Brock Party the you know,

538
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold played some clean up time in there. So

539
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: they threw it four hundred and ninety one times. They

540
00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: ran it four hundred ninety nine times. Their opponent in

541
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, Kansas City Chiefs, completely opposite six hundred

542
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: and thirty five passing attempts to just four hundred and

543
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: seventeen rushes because they have Patrick Mahomes. So that's the

544
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: flip side of that. Like, okay, well yeah, but they

545
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: have Brock Purty Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes and even without

546
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: not like with a wide receiver corps that really struggled

547
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: still through its six hundred thirty five times. Now if

548
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: you expand that to the AFC Championship game, Lamar, it's

549
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: not even really fair because Lamar doesn't you know, that's

550
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: not what Lamar does. You know, Lamar ran it one

551
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: hundred and forty eight times, you know, behind Gus Edwards

552
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: second most, So they ran it five point forty one

553
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: to throw in at four ninety four.

554
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: But let's just go to the Detroit Lions.

555
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: If you think about that, you've got all those weapons

556
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: and you're talking about six hundred attempts to five hundred rushes,

557
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: that sounds about right. I could see that. I could

558
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: see that be the split for a team that has

559
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. I could totally see a fifty five forty

560
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: five split in favor of passing. I think that that's

561
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: what I think it would look like, and I think

562
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: the Lions are a great example of this is something

563
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: I brought up with Low on the on the Ballet Show.

564
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: When you look at the projections and the power rankings

565
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: and you're ranking the rosters. ESPN put up the roster

566
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: rankings and the Chargers came in twenty fourth, twenty fourth

567
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: out of and in the AFC the only teams they

568
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: were ahead of were the Titans, Raiders, Patriots, and Broncos.

569
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: So you got eleven teams ahead of them in the

570
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: AFC that the analytics or the analytics guy Shats and

571
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: Clay and those guys over at ESPN put this together

572
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: and projected. Now Clay's projection on the season in terms

573
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: of win probability still have the Chargers win in ten games.

574
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: So it's the some of the parts that the whole

575
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: is worth more than the sum of the parts.

576
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Speaker 1: So what what.

577
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 2: I'm getting at is the Lions, I would imagine if

578
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: you went back a year, we're in a very similar

579
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: ranking because they didn't know how to rank Sam Laporta,

580
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: they didn't know how to rank Jamior Gibbs, they didn't

581
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: know what Jared Goff was going to be there. There's

582
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: just uncertain that they didn't know that that why is

583
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: his name escaping me? The linebacker Jack their rookie, that

584
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: that was one of her figures in Texas from Jack Campbell,

585
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: and that Brian Branch was going to play so well

586
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: as a nickel like that, and that to me is

587
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: very and yet the thing about the Lions that separated

588
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: them and why they ended up in the NFC Championship game,

589
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: I believe is because they had, again the whole was

590
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: greater than the sum of the parts. That they have

591
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: a culture and a belief and they follow their head

592
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: coaches lead more than any head coach in the league.

593
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: And they were a very physical team, and they had

594
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: outlier performances from their rookies. Sam Laporta had one of

595
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: if not the best rookie tied end season ever. And

596
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs was lightning in a bottle and every time

597
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: he touched the ball it was a potential touchdown. Jack

598
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Campbell had nearly one hundred tackles. Brian Branch was able

599
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: to step in and play very effective nickel corner. And

600
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: that's that's what's that's what the Chargers are gonna need.

601
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: That's what they'll need, they will need. I don't even

602
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: know how I got on this topic.

603
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm just like, no, if you and garbage.

604
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Speaker 3: No, we're trying to we're trying to project what the

605
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: Chargers may look like, because hey, San Francis. San Francisco

606
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: has a lot of all pros on the outside, they

607
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: have it all prone in the backfield. But the trajectory

608
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: of the Lions I think is a great example because

609
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: a it follows the lead to the head coach. I

610
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: think Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn, Hey, they got head

611
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: coaching interviews up and down the league for a reason,

612
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: and I think the continuity around those guys. So having

613
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: having the the Harball administration in TOE for three to

614
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: five years, I think is going to speak volumes and

615
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: you hope it starts as early as this year. But

616
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: also a guy for the Lions money that was fantastic

617
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: for them was David Montgomery. Like he was the hammer.

618
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: He was the hammer. So they hit you at Montgomery

619
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: and then they changed it up at Gibbs. They had Laporta,

620
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: they had i'm Monross, Saint Brown, Jameson Williams came back.

621
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Speaker 3: He had some speed. So there's a lot.

622
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: Of And I forgot they played Branch at safety. I

623
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: was thinking they play him at nickel. They played him

624
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: in safety. He was a nickel safety hybrid playing playing

625
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: where he's a you know, like a Derwin James. You

626
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: can play wherever you want anyway. Yeah, yeah, but I

627
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: think that you're making the point.

628
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you project like hayden Hurst. Hayden Hurst playing with

629
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, maybe that looks different than what it looked

630
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: like in Carolina last year. Right, you know you have

631
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: lab McConkey coming in. I think DJ Shark with Justin

632
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: Herbert could look different. We we both have good feelings

633
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: about Joshua Palmer. We both think that Quinton Johnson can

634
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: improve this year and we hope he does. Uh, it's

635
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 3: it's that running game. That running game is going to

636
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: dictate everything. And and if Gus Edwards at JK. Dobbins

637
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: can replicate what they did in Baltimore, Man with a

638
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: guy like Justin Herbert, You're talking about a personnel grouping

639
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: on offense that I really think can lead the way.

640
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not as concerned with the defense money, because

641
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 3: I do think that the time of possession, if they

642
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: can hold time of possession and run the football and

643
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: get leads early in the game and keep the defense

644
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: off the field, I'm pretty confident that Jesse Minner is

645
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: gonna be able to cook some stuff up with with

646
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 3: Joey and Khalil and Bud and Morgan, Fox and Tuley

647
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: and Dorwin can can do his thing in the secondary

648
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: with a pretty new looking secondary group. But just the

649
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: offense in that running game, that may be something the

650
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: Chiefs haven't seen in this division in a long time.

651
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: I'll start with your point about the front. I was

652
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: listening to DJ and Bucky on Moved the Sticks. They

653
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: had Leslie fraser On, one of the great defensive coaches

654
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: in the league and former head coach. You know, yeah,

655
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: listen to that incredible player won the Supermino was part

656
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: of the forty six defense with the Bears, and he

657
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: was asked as a secondary you know, as a guy

658
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: played in the secondary and as a secondary coach, and

659
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: you know, front to back or back to front, and.

660
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: He said front to back.

661
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: He's like, when you get the front going, we can

662
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: do a lot of stuff on the back end as

663
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: long as we're connected, as long as we're playing for

664
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: each other. If you've got a front that can affect

665
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: the passing game, they can speed up the clock, they

666
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: can take away. Ultimately, what you want to do that

667
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: can force the play to run off schedule.

668
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: You can do. You can do things with the back.

669
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: If you don't have the front and die on the vine,

670
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: you've got to sit out there too long. Quarterback has

671
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: an opportunity to just stand in the pocket and pat

672
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: the ball. He's going to find someone that's open. So again,

673
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: we we can't say it every time we bring up

674
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: a point, well, if healthy, just assume they're healthy. So

675
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: with the front and the addition of Bud Dupree and

676
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: another year of understanding how football works in the NFL

677
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: for two lea, it's gonna be one of the best

678
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: in the league. Unless there is just a precipitous drop

679
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: from Khalil mac in his you know, age thirty three season,

680
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: which I don't suspect considering how dominant he was last year.

681
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: So as long as you have that, I am concerned

682
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: about the secondary, like anyone should be. Christian Fulton, who's

683
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: had to deal with injuries at almost every year, Sante Samuel,

684
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: who has had some you know, he's been great in

685
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: some situations and has needed to work on some things

686
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: and others, particularly tackling and run support, and I feel

687
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: like he's got he got better a little bit in

688
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: that last year. And you're looking for a nickel, it's

689
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: either a sixth round pick from two years ago or

690
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: a fifth round pick from this year. Right now is

691
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 2: how it's lining up. So but what coach also said

692
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: in that was it's so important for the second What

693
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: coach Fraser said and unmoved the sticks and I'm paraphrasing,

694
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: and I hope I get it right. He just talked

695
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: about having a connected secondary and how important it is,

696
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: and he talked about his time with the Bears and

697
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: with Gary Fencik and with that whole grand buddy Ryan

698
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: who was his coach and pointed out that when you

699
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 2: have a selfless attitude in the secondary and everyone because

700
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 2: it's it can be a very individual position. And there's

701
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: a and what do they always say that the further

702
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: the further away you get from the ball, more diva behavior,

703
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: more individual behavior shows up. And you think about wide

704
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: receivers and corners, and it's as a corner. If the

705
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: other guy is getting two interceptions, you've got to be

706
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: comfortable knowing, well, yeah, he got too because I locked

707
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: up my guy and the quarterback room was not even

708
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: looking at me. He wouldn't throw it my way because

709
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: I had such good coverage. And it's up to that

710
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: individual that scored the two interceptions to say, well, the

711
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: only reason I had my opportunity is because opposite to me,

712
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: my guy's got his dude locked up. So they were

713
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: trying to pick on me, and we showed him. And

714
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: guess what, next week, they're gonna start picking on him

715
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: because now no one's coming my way next week because

716
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: I caught off a two pick game. And that's that's

717
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: something that they're going to need to find that they will,

718
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: and you would assume because of the leader in that

719
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 2: room being who it is in Derwin James. That's very

720
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: easy to visualize that this is a team that can

721
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: create a connected secondary that can be very opportunistic and

722
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: create turnovers because of how good that front is.

723
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: Key signing, Uh right before Camp wrote Tony Jefferson.

724
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, right on Q, right on cue. It comes from

725
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 2: we finished the body signs an hour later.

726
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: It's everything you did.

727
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the other one?

728
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: It was?

729
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: Uh? Was it shark?

730
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: That is shark?

731
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we finished it and he signed like three hours

732
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: later later. Makes you say he was signs today. Maybe

733
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: it's Connor Williams Siins today or something.

734
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Who knows.

735
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: Let's put somebody out there right, justin Simmons, Justin Simmons.

736
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: There you go.

737
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: But that's great, But it's it's what it's what Durwan

738
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: said he wanted Andess Presser said, but what's Tony Jefferson, Man,

739
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: he knows this defense. Let's sign him. Freeze me up

740
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: to do what I want, what I need to do

741
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: every week.

742
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: It's a second teacher, That's what I was saying, Like

743
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: like Minterer was with Tony Jefferson of Baltimore. He knows

744
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: what it's supposed to look like. So even if he doesn't.

745
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he probably won't start, but if he's the

746
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: third safety, he can get some of these young safeties

747
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: in line, help the secondary understand where they need to be.

748
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 3: And right now, like I think you kind of laid

749
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: out who we think maybe kind of the projected starters

750
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 3: going into camp. Uh, Christian Fulton Assante, although he Derwin,

751
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 3: and would you give still maybe the edge right now

752
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: in the slot entering camp based.

753
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: On what you saw the little you saw, it's here, Jah,

754
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks right now, that's what it looks

755
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: like unless they sign someone that might be available. The

756
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: thing with Tony is they need three safeties. If Durwin's

757
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: going to go into week one and his assignment's brock Boers,

758
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: then you need that third safety. You know that Tony's

759
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: got to be on the field if that's what Derwin's

760
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: gonna do, or the next week against Carolina, if he's

761
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: gonna rush, you know, and try to make life hell

762
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: for Bryce Young, you know, by sending him a lot

763
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: and keeping him on the line of scrimmage. Then that's

764
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: that means you need Tony out there a lot. And

765
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: that's the key. That's what we were talking about, that

766
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: that really there there was one position that stood out

767
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: ahead of all others, and and that was this is

768
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: a battle between you know, you know J. T. Woods

769
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: has got to step up, and you know between Woods

770
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: and Finley, and it's like, are you really comfortable with

771
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 2: that being your third safety? Knowing what that unlocks if

772
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: you find someone that you're comfortable putting there, knowing that

773
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: that unlocks Derwin to play in any particular week wherever

774
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: you need him most. Because he can do that, you

775
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: can use him as an eraser then and that's why.

776
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: And look when I'm going through Tony's when I'm going

777
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: through Tony's stats right now, Yeah, there's there's still some

778
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: concern there.

779
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a little bit older. We talked

780
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: about that before.

781
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: And see your football mister year of football did not

782
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: play two years ago, so or has not played since

783
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two with the Giants, and he barely played

784
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: that year, did not have did not have a whole

785
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: lot of stats that year, only twenty three total tackles.

786
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: So really, you know twenty one talking about in twenty nineteen,

787
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: he only played five games. In twenty twenty one, he

788
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: played for He played six games twenty twenty two, he

789
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: played nine games, so there's some concern there. There's some

790
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: injury issues there. But when you go back and maybe

791
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: he just needed the year off to get his body

792
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: to heel, because it's not like he's that old. Then

793
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: he's thirty. He's thirty two. That's old thirty two. But

794
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: you go back to twenty nineteen, I should say, twenty

795
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: eighteen his last full season, and he's got seventy four tackles,

796
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: he's got a sack, he's got six tackles for loss,

797
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: he's got a couple of quarterback hits, he's got a

798
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: forced fumble, he's got an interception. Like he'st but that's

799
00:39:53,680 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: you know, that's what six years ago. So that's what

800
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm getting at is I don't know if they're done.

801
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's more of like you said, Chris,

802
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: a coach on the field, or if that's this is

803
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: our third safety now we're good, or if they're still

804
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: potential for someone to be signed at that spot. And

805
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: like you know you heard from I mentioned Connor William's name.

806
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: The only reason I brought it up is because we

807
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 2: were getting ready for the pod. It's looking at free

808
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: agents still available and trying to see what was out there,

809
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: and Connor said, what I think a lot of these

810
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: guys that are left Gilmore Simmons Williams is probably the

811
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 2: top offensive lineman out there right now is I'll wait

812
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: till training camp. I'll wait till training camp, and then

813
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: we'll see who feels like they need a little something.

814
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: And with the Chargers getting a jump early by starting

815
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: with all with everybody on July twenty third, by the

816
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: end of that week they may say, before anyone else

817
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: has really got into the depths of their training camp,

818
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: you know what, we need this, we need this. Let's

819
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 2: go get them. Let's we got some money. We still

820
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: have X number of millions of dollars under the cap.

821
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: Let's go offer it and let's go get them.

822
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: Hey, let's end the pod. Just with kind of ranting

823
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: out the defense real quick. We talked about the secondary linebackers.

824
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 3: We're looking at Colson, We're looking at Henley and Denzel.

825
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: I think those are the top three there, and then

826
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 3: we mentioned edge defensive tackle. What are we thinking there

827
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: as far as projected starters, Puda Ford.

828
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: It was Poona and matt Lock that were out there

829
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: with the ones when we were at Manini camp. That's

830
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: we've talked about it, right We've talked about the you

831
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: know what is I'm looking at it right now as

832
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: it lists right now, it's Poona and Tito. Tito of

833
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: course did not quite look right coming back from his

834
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: injury last year as a gnarly injury two years ago,

835
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 2: so maybe he's right, and we know he was really

836
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: coming on the middle of that rookie campaign when he

837
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: got hurt in San Francisco. That's what it's listed at

838
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: right now. But I'm just saying what we saw out

839
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: there was was Matt Lock and Poona, and I mean

840
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: right now they haven't listed as Morgan, Foxo and Puna

841
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: and obviously Bosai Mac on the outside and that three four,

842
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: So that's one where and when you look the next

843
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: line Matt Locke sixth round pick, Gerrod Clark, undrafted free

844
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: agent justin a Boybee fourth round pick that coach Elston,

845
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: when we asked him, said, is a developmental project that

846
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: they love the tools, but that's someone that's going to

847
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: need to develop. And then behind them Cjakoy part of

848
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: the International Pathway Program and Savvy on Jackson. So there's yes,

849
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: that's that's certainly a bit of a concern and likely

850
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: now that Tony Jefferson's here, if that's what they're going

851
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: to try to make work the you know, that's that's

852
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: the one position I think that sticks out the most

853
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: right now, and I'm trying to see who's because there's

854
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: not a lot available in that category.

855
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: By the way, it's you're talking about guys who are older,

856
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: who probably if they are going to play, they're not

857
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: trying to go to trade a camp now.

858
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: There's not a lot out there right now that they're

859
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: older guys, and the development inhibitors. As coach Parcels, we

860
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: regularly say that that's the thing you gotta be careful of.

861
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: Are you signing a guy because of the name on

862
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: his jersey and can he really still play? And if

863
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: he could, why is he why is he out there?

864
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: Well, it's a great opportunity for a guy like Scott Matlock,

865
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: who coach Harball name checked and you know Tito Bonia

866
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: man like you said that that was devastating that injury

867
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. He was playing really well as a rookie.

868
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: He's a strong, powerful dude. Just was never right last

869
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: year and the season wasn't right. So it's good to

870
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: have him back in his third year in a new

871
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: regime and maybe he can he can pop in late July.

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Speaker 2: Money, Yeah, I'm looking and I'm not seeing a whole

873
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: lot here. You got what I think is Fletcher Cox,

874
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: I think is retired. Did he end up resigning? Shelby Harris?

875
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: Both those guys are thirty three, Carlos Watkins, Javon kinladg

876
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: just signed with Lean. That's that's right, you said, yeah,

877
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: there's not There is not a lot out.

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00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: There right now. So you know our old friend Nick

879
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Williams was was on the charges last year.

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00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nicks available.

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00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the one I would probably keep an

882
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: eye on for.

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00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's the thing, listen, trades, uh, surprise cuts.

884
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's gonna be some teams that they

885
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: like their their draft picks, or some guy who's who's

886
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 3: a lot cheaper than maybe somebody making ten to twelve

887
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: million that you know, may get released early and find

888
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: a new home. Like that's the that's the thing. Money,

889
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: All that movement in July and August, it happens, and

890
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: it happens quickly, you know, we we've seen guys come

891
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: in and out throughout the training camp months, so that's

892
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: something to keep your keep our eyes on as we

893
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: uh as we kind of just wait for for July

894
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 3: twenty third to finally get here. We have a few

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Speaker 3: more pods before before the ritis report.

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Speaker 2: We do, but again, we'll we'll we'll have an opportunity

897
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Speaker 2: to figure it out.

898
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: There's there's gonna be more stuff coming.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the funny about it all is it's as

900
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm looking at their their depth chart right now, just

901
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: with all the rookies, some of these guys are gonna

902
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: raise their hands. We're gonna hear stuff out of the

903
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: facility with some of the rookies that are starting to

904
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: impress and look pretty good, and it's just hard to

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00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: project anything until they start going with the pat so on.

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00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: We say it every week, so can't get here soon enough.

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00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: It is.

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00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: We still went forty five minutes today though. Next week

909
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: is is July fourth. Yeah, if you listen, if you've

910
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: listened to this point, we should give a gift. We

911
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 3: should give a gift away.

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00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: But like you said, I felt like we did all right.

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Speaker 2: Next week we'll be interesting figure out how we're gonna

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Speaker 2: do that the fourth being on uh yeah, fourth of July.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. That's a TBD, guys. We'll let you

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Speaker 3: know how that shakes out, but uh always good being

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Speaker 3: here on Thursday for Matt Muddy Smith. I'm Chris Hayrey.

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Speaker 3: This has been Chargers Weekly. We'll see you guys next month.