Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and no he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: It's like you right now should come out and be like,
Speaker 3: you know what, the young man who's about to win
Speaker 3: the state championship in the long jump in female sports,
Speaker 3: that's that that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should
Speaker 3: step out and say no, no, And I appreciate, and
Speaker 3: but like, would you do something like that, would you
Speaker 3: say no men in female sports?
Speaker 2: Well, it's I think it's an issue of fairness. I
Speaker 2: completely agree with you on that.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? He didn't even say anything there.
Speaker 1: How did it become controversial and he got attacked from
Speaker 1: the left for betraying the transgender community.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 1: He went wishy washy on that.
Speaker 4: Well, although he broke cranks. It was like the far left,
Speaker 4: the intersectionality crowd. It's like, you know, the the Russian
Speaker 4: soldiers on the front in Ukraine. If say so much
Speaker 4: as turn in the wrong direction their own people shoot them.
Speaker 4: And Gavin showed signs of betraying transgender women.
Speaker 2: And you can't betray anybody.
Speaker 4: The Eskimos need to stick with, the transgenders need to
Speaker 4: stick with, the immigrants need to stick with. The Palestinians
Speaker 4: need to you know.
Speaker 2: Now I heard he walked with that back over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Do we have that anywhere? Has anybody got that in
Speaker 1: written or audio form? I meant to look that up,
Speaker 1: that he walked that back after getting blasted by a
Speaker 1: number of your more woke democrats in the country. And
Speaker 1: again he didn't even make a strong declarative sentence there.
Speaker 1: He just said, oh, no, I agree, it's an issue
Speaker 1: of fairness, okay, and you think it's fair to what
Speaker 1: allowed transgender girls unfair exactly sicily you still haven't said.
Speaker 4: Right, right, yeah, and yet that was way too much
Speaker 4: for their crowd. But anyway, that whole you know, NATO
Speaker 4: of intersectionality, whatever you want to describe it, that's how
Speaker 4: you end up with something as patently absurd as queers
Speaker 4: for Palestine. I mean, what could be more idiotic then?
Speaker 4: You know, people who would be immediately tortured, killed, throw
Speaker 4: off buildings, et cetera, rallying in favor of Islamism. Anyway,
Speaker 4: Speaking of Gaviy Newsome, his state of kel Unicornia. How
Speaker 4: did it rank? Can US News and World Reports do
Speaker 4: ranking of the states?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: US News and World Report appears to exist only for
Speaker 4: ranking various things these days, and their methodology is certainly
Speaker 4: worth griping about. But I think generally speaking, if you're ranked, say,
Speaker 4: forty seventh in education, you're not great at it. Can
Speaker 4: we all agree on that, at least broadly speaking. But
Speaker 4: your top state overall, ladies and gentlemen, think about it.
Speaker 4: Lowish crime, solid economy, good education that's probably not real,
Speaker 4: woke infrastructure, great natural environment. I give you Utah. New
Speaker 4: Hampshire took the number two spot overall. Nebraska came in
Speaker 4: at number three overall. This is an article from an
Speaker 4: Orlando outlet. So they talked about Florida. Fairmount Florida placed
Speaker 4: number nine, partly because the Sunshine State ranked highest among
Speaker 4: all fifty states for higher education and the economy. Anyway, Hey,
Speaker 4: you know, we could do the overall rankings if you want.
Speaker 4: You want your top ten, bottom.
Speaker 2: Ten for overall all criteria.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your top ten mass counting up to number one, Massachusetts, Florida, Washington, Vermont, Iowa, Idaho, Minnesota, Nebraska,
Speaker 4: New Hampshire utah of your body.
Speaker 1: Really small and or low population states. There, not all
Speaker 1: of them, but a lot of them.
Speaker 4: Yes, I would agree, Yeah yeah, and some right, some left,
Speaker 4: some center, blah blah blah. Again, you could certainly quibble
Speaker 4: with the various methodologies.
Speaker 2: I always keep dougging into it.
Speaker 4: I mean, because if you have, for instance, like Illinois,
Speaker 4: Let's see where do they rank in education? Because Illinois
Speaker 4: got a number of eminent universities, they ranked quite high,
Speaker 4: sixteenth in education. But I guarantee you elementary through high
Speaker 4: school education is unforgivably horrifically.
Speaker 2: That's a state and that's what I want ranked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, really in a lot of ways, because that
Speaker 4: there's a direct correlation between that and whether they're they're
Speaker 4: teaching the basics. Actually, here are allegedly your worst states,
Speaker 4: and these might surprise as well. Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Michigan, Oklahoma,
Speaker 4: South Calabama leading the country and shooting criminals in the
Speaker 4: chest right well, and population growth as a percentage, so
Speaker 4: it ain't that crappy. Alabama, Alaska, West Virginia, Arkansas, Mississippi,
Speaker 4: New Mexico.
Speaker 2: And wah wah wah.
Speaker 4: Sad Marty Ga trombone for Louisiana. It's a funny punch
Speaker 4: line if I hadn't stumbled over it. But some of
Speaker 4: these numbers, I mean, like South Cakilac, which I know
Speaker 4: pretty well, is nineteenth for environment.
Speaker 2: What does that even mean?
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 2: See, And that's the trouble I have, Especially.
Speaker 1: If you get into overall ratings, you'd throw in a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of squishy numbers and come up with one big,
Speaker 1: giant squishy number the environment.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And it's quite possible that I would rank them completely
Speaker 1: upside down on their criteria for whether I want to
Speaker 1: live there or not.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If they say that they rank it high because they
Speaker 1: have better recycling programs with the garbage, I don't care.
Speaker 2: So I would have an inverse relationship with that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's see. Yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 4: Actually, I think the whole looking at their methodology might
Speaker 4: be interesting then more interesting than the actual the results.
Speaker 2: You know. I'm on this.
Speaker 1: I have been for a long time, this kick of
Speaker 1: public education and how we're failing so much that should
Speaker 1: be we should be talking about that all the time.
Speaker 1: How many people are graduating from your local grade school
Speaker 1: or high school?
Speaker 2: That can read or do math.
Speaker 1: That should everybody should know that off the top of
Speaker 1: their head those numbers, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. I would agree completely. Who's doing
Speaker 4: the measuring and what are their standards? That's what you
Speaker 4: need to know. Oh, that reminds me on a completely
Speaker 4: different topic of the sky rocketing rate of autism diagnosis
Speaker 4: in the United States, and Alicia Finley, I think it
Speaker 4: was wrote a really interesting piece. And I have a kid,
Speaker 4: an adult child now, who's autistic, and I'm fairly up
Speaker 4: on this sort of thing, and I certainly have a.
Speaker 2: Sympathetic view of it.
Speaker 4: But this is a classic example of trying to understand
Speaker 4: what's happening in the modern world and plawing through the
Speaker 4: layer after layer of statistics and trying to figure out
Speaker 4: what's true and not. I believe firmly that there is
Speaker 4: a rise in autism in the United States. I have
Speaker 4: no idea what's costing with doubt actual cases of kids
Speaker 4: with the characteristics that.
Speaker 2: Describe autism. Okay.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, there have been all sorts of
Speaker 4: changes in diagnosis and in the financial rewards.
Speaker 2: For school districts.
Speaker 4: For instance, for kids diagnosed they get extra money and
Speaker 4: so to rely on any of the statistics. Well, Trump
Speaker 4: throughout the other day that we've gone from one in
Speaker 4: ten thousand kids it's diagnosed with autism, now it's one
Speaker 4: in thirty six.
Speaker 2: There's something wrong, one in thirty six.
Speaker 4: He said, A large measure of that statistic is just
Speaker 4: changes in incentives and diagnosis, but not all of it.
Speaker 4: And so I'm not leaping to some fist pounding, angry
Speaker 4: talk show host conclusion here. I'm just saying it's really
Speaker 4: difficult to figure out what's actually going on into what extent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, if I'm going to be fair, even
Speaker 1: though I complain, we complain constantly about how many layers
Speaker 1: of administration they've added to schools clear across the country,
Speaker 1: which is also true, all kinds of people that don't
Speaker 1: need to be there making a living in your school,
Speaker 1: getting the tax money, as opposed to getting into the classroom.
Speaker 1: If you got way more kids with autism and all
Speaker 1: kinds of different issues, you're gonna need more support. Just
Speaker 1: a regular teacher only can't handle a class if you
Speaker 1: got five autistic kids in there, right, right, It's a
Speaker 1: classic example of both are true. I think there's a
Speaker 1: rise in autism and a skyrocketing rise in the diagnosis.
Speaker 1: They mentioned in the Wall Street Journal here that one
Speaker 1: kid out of six in American public schools or diagnosis
Speaker 1: having a disability, one out of six and five in
Speaker 1: every class of thirty kids.
Speaker 2: But do they really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then if you I know, I know a
Speaker 1: lot about this, But it wants the infrastructure to deal
Speaker 1: with that is, the human infrastructure is huge and very expensive.
Speaker 4: Right right, And where he's needed a beautiful example of
Speaker 4: a compassionate society, in my opinion, where it's legitimate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, you don't need all those layers
Speaker 1: of DEI chieftains and their and their armies.
Speaker 2: That's a completely different thing. But was I gonna say.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, they're talking about you get down
Speaker 1: there their kids, and then the teachers, and you get
Speaker 1: all thets.
Speaker 2: I forgot what I was gonna say. It's probably being
Speaker 2: out Trump. I mean.
Speaker 1: The upside is I can uh hide my own Easter eggs.
Speaker 1: You know, I can watch the same sitcom over and
Speaker 1: over again, laugh every time because I never heard.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the joke. The downside is I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, maybe we could get an
Speaker 4: official diagnosis out of you and get some gunman money
Speaker 4: for the show. Michael can be your minder. Michael, we'll
Speaker 4: cut you in on the profits. Were fair.
Speaker 1: That sounds fine, fair minded. This is really bothering me.
Speaker 1: I can't think of this because this is an important topic.
Speaker 4: It was a complex and last diagnosing more kids with
Speaker 4: more things, and so you got to have the humans
Speaker 4: there to deal with it.
Speaker 2: And I don't know one more thought.
Speaker 4: Bill Cassidy was a doctor, medical doctor, not a fake
Speaker 4: doctor like Jill Biden. He's a Republican senator and an
Speaker 4: r f K Jr. And he were disagreeing leading up
Speaker 4: to RFK Junior's hearings, right what do they call it,
Speaker 4: you know, consent hearings and and and RFK kept saying, hey,
Speaker 4: you show me the science that says these inoculations are
Speaker 4: not related to autism, and I will change my tune.
Speaker 2: I will believe it.
Speaker 4: And Bill Cassidy says, I brought him absolutely sterling, silver science,
Speaker 4: huge studies, carefully controlled, peer reviewed blah blah blah, that
Speaker 4: made the case. And he dismissed it out of hand
Speaker 4: and said, now I don't believe that stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I didn't hear that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so Cassidy's really frustrating, frustrated with him that
Speaker 4: and and one of the reasons R F. K. Junior said,
Speaker 4: I don't believe that because of this paper here. Cassidy
Speaker 4: said that that paper has been discredited in every which way,
Speaker 4: And I have no horse in this race. It's just
Speaker 4: it's the methodology was terrible, but Harf Cages wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: So it's, you know, tough to get to the truth
Speaker 2: these days. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: And I have spent a lot of money and a
Speaker 1: lot of time, including this past weekend, on dealing with
Speaker 1: one kid that's got a variety of the problems that
Speaker 1: exists in this world.
Speaker 2: But I'm not concerned they came from the vaccine. So
Speaker 2: that's just me. Send your emails to Joe if you
Speaker 2: have a different thought on that. I'm more on the
Speaker 2: way here.
Speaker 5: If fetanyl ends, I think these will come off. But
Speaker 5: if fetanyl does not end, or he's uncertain about it,
Speaker 5: they will stay this way until he is comfortable. This
Speaker 5: is black and white. You got to save American lives.
Speaker 5: So with respect with respect to fetanyl, this is about
Speaker 5: the border and fetanyl.
Speaker 4: That's Howard Lutnick to the Secretary Commerce talking about the tariffs,
Speaker 4: the fentanyl, the precursor chemicals at the very least, which
Speaker 4: come from China then flow through Mexico and to a
Speaker 4: lesser extent Canada in.
Speaker 2: The United States.
Speaker 4: And speaking of China, really interesting analysis I came across
Speaker 4: and troubling from a handful of the writers and analysts
Speaker 4: in the Wall Street Journal. Umbrella. It's about China's projection.
Speaker 4: They're waging a gray zone campaign. And here's what they
Speaker 4: mean by that, and it's, you know, the South China Sea,
Speaker 4: the Taiwan Strait, even up into the Himalayas. They're operating
Speaker 4: in the hazy zone between war and peace to extend
Speaker 4: their power.
Speaker 2: Here's what it looks like.
Speaker 4: Beijing carefully calibrates each move with the aim of staying
Speaker 4: just below the threshold of action that.
Speaker 2: Could trigger outright conflict.
Speaker 4: But step by incremental step, it is pushed deeper into
Speaker 4: contested areas, exhausting opponents and eroding their strength with a
Speaker 4: thousand cuts. What they're talking about is probes by warplanes,
Speaker 4: maneuvered by kost guard ships, or the creeping construction of
Speaker 4: new civilian settlements. They push you in the region right
Speaker 4: to the brink of war, over and over and over again,
Speaker 4: and they carefully calculate what's going to bring a shooting
Speaker 4: war on and calibrate just below that, over and over again.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting.
Speaker 4: This article is illustrated visually in a way that I
Speaker 4: wish we could show you well. Post it at an
Speaker 4: armstrong in getty dot com under hotlines. It'll probably get paywall,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it shows the actual tracking of
Speaker 4: ships for instances little lines, and where there have been
Speaker 4: a bunch of ships circling an island or whatever, it
Speaker 4: becomes a very thick, heavy line. So you can look
Speaker 4: at what China's doing physically satellite images and plane tracking
Speaker 4: equipment and that sort of thing. But it is so
Speaker 4: obviously increasingly aggressive in ways that are indefensible by their rhetoric,
Speaker 4: Like they're pushing closer and closer and closer to the
Speaker 4: coast of the Philippines and claiming islands and taking over islands,
Speaker 4: or so heavily patrolling those islands and ramming ships. We've
Speaker 4: seen that recently. Sometimes it's the Chinese Coast Guard. Sometimes
Speaker 4: it's this militia of private fishing vessels which they've deputized
Speaker 4: to just make life living hell for for instance, Filipino
Speaker 4: fishermen or their navy or whatever, and so bit by
Speaker 4: bit by bit, they're pushing everybody back and staying just
Speaker 4: under what would trigger a shooting war.
Speaker 1: Now I'm endlessly fascinated with the whole China thing, and
Speaker 1: I think everybody should be, because yeah, they're hell bent
Speaker 1: on taking over the world. Do you think there would
Speaker 1: be you could have when do we have the Beijing
Speaker 1: Olympics coming some medy google that real quick.
Speaker 2: When we have the Olympics of Beijing? Wasn't that long ago?
Speaker 2: I remember, I was shocked that it happened. I didn't
Speaker 2: think it was like twenty twelve or something like that.
Speaker 2: But anyway we can look it up. That'll that'll never
Speaker 2: happen again. What do you got there? Oh no, No,
Speaker 2: the Winter Olympics isn't either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Putin promised he wouldn't evade during the Olympics.
Speaker 1: It's what twenty two, Yeah, so it was right before
Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine. But I remember thinking then that
Speaker 1: I can't believe we're participating. I mean, the whole world
Speaker 1: is going to China and acting like they're just a
Speaker 1: regular country.
Speaker 2: Surely we wouldn't now, but maybe we would. I don't know.
Speaker 4: The un is ridiculous, Yes it is, and it's worth
Speaker 4: reviewing that whole system of little islands they created in
Speaker 4: the South China Sea, where they built them up but
Speaker 4: swore they wouldn't militarize them, then built you know, landing
Speaker 4: strips and said, but don't worry, we won't put weapons
Speaker 4: systems on them. And the reason that's been even more
Speaker 4: important than anybody realized is because now all those islands
Speaker 4: are like little military bases. They're stopping points so they
Speaker 4: can patrol in a much wider area and not have
Speaker 4: to come back home, so they can refuel, refeed the guys, whatever,
Speaker 4: and project their power much more efficiently over a much
Speaker 4: bigger zone. So that you have militarized a huge section
Speaker 4: of the ocean that never was before.
Speaker 2: That is really interesting.
Speaker 1: I have things to say about that, but maybe some
Speaker 1: other time, because this topic will be around for a
Speaker 1: very long time.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Geeddy, now.
Speaker 6: Look, I can't have you two at each other's throats, Okay,
Speaker 6: after all, I have a perfect record. Everyone who's ever
Speaker 6: worked for me has left on good terms and then
Speaker 6: gone on to write a book called The Man.
Speaker 2: Who Ruined Everything.
Speaker 6: So you too need to start acting like mature adults.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's begin with Marco Parno.
Speaker 6: No Eli, I'm trying to talk to MARCOO.
Speaker 2: What is that? What's this? What's this? Doing this? What's this?
Speaker 2: Nobody knows? Okay, it's his little dance. We let him
Speaker 2: do it. It's his least unsettling trick.
Speaker 1: So that's from Saturday Night Live, which, weirdly, I'd like
Speaker 1: to actually talk to Lorden Mark Michaels about this. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a genius of keeping that thing relevant over a
Speaker 1: half a century, but the opening thing is always so
Speaker 1: off putting to those of us who don't agree with
Speaker 1: his politics.
Speaker 2: Then the rest of the show is sketch comedy. But
Speaker 2: you got like a big chunk of the country that
Speaker 2: can't get past your open every week.
Speaker 1: So you're a sketch comedy that's just about any topic.
Speaker 2: It's non political. The show is mostly.
Speaker 1: Non political, but for a whole bunch of Saturday Night
Speaker 1: Live haters in this country, it's a political show because.
Speaker 2: I only see your opening segment. Stop with it? Would
Speaker 2: you just stop?
Speaker 4: Well, when your opening segment is a loud declaration of
Speaker 4: you're not welcome here every week.
Speaker 2: It's an odd marketing.
Speaker 1: Maneuver, right, But anyway, Elon now being portrayed by Mike
Speaker 1: Myers and I come back Saturday Night Live, and just
Speaker 1: the idea that Elon is now such a villain of
Speaker 1: the left is man who saw that coming ten years ago?
Speaker 2: No, nobody, nobody. I mean, he was the leader of.
Speaker 1: We need to go electric with cars, climate changes our
Speaker 1: biggest problem, you know, all that sort of stuff, and
Speaker 1: a hero of the left, and you know, I live
Speaker 1: in a part of the country, or people buying were
Speaker 1: buying Tesla's even though they didn't make sense, and we're
Speaker 1: way too expensive virtue signaling. Now it's flipped completely the
Speaker 1: opposite direction, as we all know. Over the weekend, hundreds
Speaker 1: of New Yorkers swarmed and shut down the Tesla dealer
Speaker 1: in Manhattan. They shut down a major car dealership, an
Speaker 1: electric car dealership. Six were arrested after occupying the showroom
Speaker 1: and shattering all the windows and everything. And then they
Speaker 1: said had to post a police at the big Tesla
Speaker 1: dealerships and a whole bunch of other cities around the
Speaker 1: country to try to try to protect them.
Speaker 2: I saw a video.
Speaker 1: I mean it was just one nut job running out
Speaker 1: of the street and pounding on a cyber truck in traffic.
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is going to do to
Speaker 2: the value of Tesla's.
Speaker 1: I almost want to buy a cyber truck now, just
Speaker 1: as a giant middle finger to the people who ate
Speaker 1: eln so much, because it's such a noticeable thing, just
Speaker 1: like blon so the folks who pull this.
Speaker 2: Sort of thing. Back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Two found that twenty two percent of car shoppers surveyed
Speaker 4: said they would definitely consider a Tesla for their next vehicle,
Speaker 4: purchased twenty two percent. By last summer, the percentage you
Speaker 4: dropped to seven percent, dropped by more than two thirds,
Speaker 4: roughly in line with Lincoln.
Speaker 1: But it's now more popular with Republicans than Democrats. Even
Speaker 1: though they're not actually probably going to buy the car,
Speaker 1: their view of it is higher.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's It's definitely an unprecedented alignment of a
Speaker 4: product with a political point of view in a way
Speaker 4: that you know, it's not like, I mean, Target was
Speaker 4: selling repugnant items for confused adolescents during their whole up
Speaker 4: with trans thing. Okay, Tesla's just you get in it,
Speaker 4: you go to the store, and then you come back
Speaker 4: home again. It's not like it's plays Trump speeches and
Speaker 4: that you can't turn them off or.
Speaker 2: It'll you know, it'll only take you.
Speaker 4: To the the VA, you know, any and not to
Speaker 4: the ballet or.
Speaker 1: The self driving system runs over government workers if it.
Speaker 2: Sees them right.
Speaker 1: It's an agnostic product. It's just but uh, well, more
Speaker 1: on that in a second. Would there's a we got
Speaker 1: some sort of protest locally you have, Katie, There was
Speaker 1: a protest at the Tesla dealership on Arden Arcade on Saturday.
Speaker 1: More than one hundred protesters showed up and they lined
Speaker 1: both sides of the thoroughfare. One hundred's a pretty good
Speaker 1: turnout on a Saturday for a car dealership because you
Speaker 1: don't like the politics of the guy who started it.
Speaker 2: It's now a publicly traded company.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I mean, boy cutting bud light
Speaker 1: because they had the trans person on there. You know, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll drink a different beer that tastes exactly the same
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just there's so little but telling your car or
Speaker 1: attacking the dealership just seems.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what.
Speaker 4: The other aspect of it that we point out many
Speaker 4: times and we'll continue to is that the Trump voter
Speaker 4: is about half of America, or at least you know, Conservatives, Republicans,
Speaker 4: whatever it is, it's half of America. So you're saying
Speaker 4: that something that is aligned with half of the country
Speaker 4: is so repugnant and outrageous. I won't even be seen
Speaker 4: in it, even if it's a fabulous product. The whole
Speaker 4: up with trans thing is a tiny percentage, So again,
Speaker 4: it's just a poor comparison.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you have the weird aspect that's unique
Speaker 1: that Tesla's main appeal was too progressives to start with, right,
Speaker 1: because it was more of a gesture than a reality
Speaker 1: of you were perfectly okay with the car you had before.
Speaker 1: You're not actually affecting climate change by getting a Tesla.
Speaker 2: But you know that whole thing.
Speaker 1: So the Washington Post has an article anger at Elon
Speaker 1: Musk turns violent with molotov cocktails and gunfire at Tesla dealerships,
Speaker 1: and uh, here's one of the breakdowns of the story.
Speaker 1: Anger at Elon Musk is turning violent. People are burning
Speaker 1: his cars and shooting his stores, leaving front like Tesla
Speaker 1: workers and ordinary vehicle owners to bear the brunt of
Speaker 1: the anger incited by Musk's politics. Is how they write it.
Speaker 1: He incited this. They have no coneyway.
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do? He incited me?
Speaker 4: And that's in the New York Post, Washington Post, a
Speaker 4: Washington Post.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, elon Musks because he is a fiscal conservative
Speaker 1: and supports Trump, has incited you to shooting up a
Speaker 1: Tesla dealership.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting way good left wing journalism right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable. See what they did, well caught? Yeah, I said,
Speaker 2: well I should dig this up because this is really good.
Speaker 2: Go ahead in a way.
Speaker 4: It's kind of ironic that and we've been saying this
Speaker 4: for a long time, and this, I think this is
Speaker 4: proof that the whole electric vehicle thing is not clearly
Speaker 4: a net positive for the environment. Even if you are
Speaker 4: staunchily in favor of doing whatever is best environmentally, it
Speaker 4: is far far from indisputable that electric cars do anything
Speaker 4: good because the battery and the weight and the tires
Speaker 4: and the excavation and the materials and the rearers.
Speaker 2: And the mining and blah blah blah, blah blah. We've
Speaker 2: all gone over that many times.
Speaker 4: But isn't this proof that since it was just symbolic anyway,
Speaker 4: well you might as well stop buying them because it
Speaker 4: was just symbolic anyway.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean Tesla is the most
Speaker 1: is the most valuable car dealership in the world because
Speaker 1: of symbolism, not because there are no numbers to back
Speaker 1: that up.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make.
Speaker 1: Any sense to one as soever. It's such a tiny
Speaker 1: number of cars. That's fine motor car indeed. But somebody
Speaker 1: made the point. I remember who it was. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine if MAGA was vandalizing electric vehicles across the what
Speaker 1: a news story it would be and how it would
Speaker 1: be portrayed right as a bunch of science denying poltroons.
Speaker 1: But when lefties are attacking an electric car dealership at
Speaker 1: they were incited by the evil.
Speaker 2: Hitler want to be Elon Musk.
Speaker 4: They are incited into mostly peaceful protests. Yesh, And we
Speaker 4: mentioned this earlier in the show. Tesla's stock has dropped
Speaker 4: forty five percent since December. That is extraordinary, and it's
Speaker 4: still valued at eight hundred and forty seven billion dollars,
Speaker 4: more than any other car company.
Speaker 2: Which is inexplicable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the percentage of Democrats had said they consider buying
Speaker 4: a Tesla declined from twenty three percent last summer to
Speaker 4: I guess those two summers ago, twenty three percent to
Speaker 4: thirteen percent.
Speaker 2: Recently.
Speaker 4: Over that period, the percentage would be Republican buyers grew
Speaker 4: from fifteen to twenty six percent.
Speaker 2: That's funny, isn't that something?
Speaker 1: And again that is a would consider because I don't
Speaker 1: think Republicans are gonna buy Tesla's. Most of the places
Speaker 1: Republicans live is not that handy a vehicle for them.
Speaker 4: Is this the inevitable fallout of a society that's gone
Speaker 4: from hardly thinking about politics at all to obsessing about
Speaker 4: it all the time and identifying ourselves as one thing
Speaker 4: or another might be?
Speaker 2: So it is worth telling you, I gotta.
Speaker 4: Start, you know, Joe's star spangled breakfast cereals.
Speaker 2: Then we'd expanded Jim shoes.
Speaker 4: Of course Trump has already kind of done that, but
Speaker 4: Joe's star spangled, but be the brand. We'd have star
Speaker 4: spangled poasters.
Speaker 1: Pens, clothing, This reminding nasal spray for allergy season. I'm
Speaker 1: stealing this from Sarah. I isger of the Dispatch, so
Speaker 1: all credit to her for bringing this to my attention.
Speaker 1: I'm not pretentding I caught onto this on my own,
Speaker 1: but she was talking about it on the Dispatch podcast.
Speaker 2: The other day.
Speaker 1: So down in Texas, this guy pranked one of his
Speaker 1: friends and it worked, which gets to your point. So
Speaker 1: this this dude claimed to a bunch of people there's
Speaker 1: a Texas chili cookoff going on sort of thing, and
Speaker 1: claim to the friends that you know, beans in chili
Speaker 1: is a woke thing, and how real chili only ever
Speaker 1: had meat in it, and back in the day the
Speaker 1: wolkester is trying to get us off of meat and
Speaker 1: convince us that we needed to eat beans, got it
Speaker 1: into chili and made all this different sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so this chili guy.
Speaker 1: Started taking beans out of the chili, making the declaration
Speaker 1: that I'm not this is not woke chili. And then
Speaker 1: the dude had to go to the other dude and say,
Speaker 1: I was just kidding, that was a joke. I was
Speaker 1: that isn't true, and then he got very very angry.
Speaker 1: But the fact that it worked is the thing. It
Speaker 1: gets to your point of is it just mean that
Speaker 1: we've become too obsessed with politics now that you're gonna
Speaker 1: choose how you make you're chili or which car you
Speaker 1: drive or whatever based on how it aligns with politics.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If somebody convinced me that only progressive was like tomato
Speaker 4: sauce on pizza and that grape jelly is really the
Speaker 4: conservative way to go, I'm still eating the hole right, Okay,
Speaker 4: it doesn't make me a transgender or or whatever woke
Speaker 4: or you know, the sanctuary said, I'm for good pizza
Speaker 4: and cars that run.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's just what's the matter with everybody calmed down? Yeah,
Speaker 2: makes it difficult, makes it difficult. Oh, I know I
Speaker 2: shouldn't mention. We're not a stock show. But this is,
Speaker 2: in all fairness.
Speaker 1: The way that Tesla could drop forty five percent since
Speaker 1: December is he had a huge bump after the election.
Speaker 1: Tesla stock shot through the roof after the election. He
Speaker 1: was already high, but so that has been erased since
Speaker 1: the election, and now it's.
Speaker 2: Back to where it was already very very high before.
Speaker 4: So ah, oh, an important asterisk right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair to mention, But that other stuff about how
Speaker 1: popular it is among the republics and Democrats.
Speaker 2: That's all true. We got a lot more in the
Speaker 2: ways today.
Speaker 7: Here there are battles, I mean intense battles taking place.
Speaker 2: There's video of Russians.
Speaker 7: Making their way through abandoned gas pipes to try and
Speaker 7: get to the Ukrainians to fight of drone strikes on
Speaker 7: Ukrainian tanks in that area of Kursk. Why is that
Speaker 7: so intense? Why is it so important? Because Ukrainians hope
Speaker 7: to hold that ground in order to negotiate a swap
Speaker 7: of some kind of territory, territorial swap. I mean, that's
Speaker 7: what we perceive the Ukrainians want to do. Now, if
Speaker 7: they lose that ground and the Russians are clearly determined
Speaker 7: that they will, then that obviously changes the negotiation. And
Speaker 7: that's all important too. Going back to your question, because ultimately,
Speaker 7: if you are the Kremlin and you think that you
Speaker 7: are winning in Kursk, and you think that you will
Speaker 7: get that ground back in the weeks, but maybe months ahead,
Speaker 7: why would you agree to a seiz fin.
Speaker 1: Now that's a very good question, Cure Simmons of NBC,
Speaker 1: and we're I don't quite understand some of the strategy.
Speaker 1: Ucia really went hard at Ukraine over the weekend. Probably
Speaker 1: worth playing this back and forth with Trump and a reporter.
Speaker 1: Do you, as a president, think that Vladimir Putin is
Speaker 1: taking advantage of the US pause right now on intelligence
Speaker 1: and military aid to Ukraine.
Speaker 8: I actually think he's doing what anybody else would do.
Speaker 2: I think he's.
Speaker 8: I think he wants to get it stopped and settled.
Speaker 8: And I think he's hitting him harder than he's been
Speaker 8: hitting him, And I think probably anybody in that position
Speaker 8: would be doing that right now. He wants to get
Speaker 8: it ended, and I think Ukraine wants to get it ended.
Speaker 8: But I don't see it's crazy. They're taking tremendous punishment.
Speaker 4: I don't understand that position at all, nor do I
Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense to me. Well, the Ukrainians resisted
Speaker 4: the invasion of a hostile.
Speaker 1: Neighbor, so they wouldn't die anybody else would have done
Speaker 1: and live under the thumb of a dictator, and so
Speaker 1: we stopped. Now today Trump has said, oh, we're going
Speaker 1: to start the intelligence sharing up real soon again.
Speaker 2: So maybe we are.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we stopped sharing intelligence, which I
Speaker 1: guess is more important than practically anything else. You know,
Speaker 1: several days back sharing intelligence with Ukraine, Russia attacks the
Speaker 1: be Jesus out of him. Trump's asked about that, he says, well,
Speaker 1: Putin's doing what anybody would do. He wants to end
Speaker 1: this thing, so he's gonna kill as many innocent Ukrainians
Speaker 1: as possible so they'll submit and he gets to take
Speaker 1: as much of their country. I don't I don't get
Speaker 1: this at all. I know a lot of you. I
Speaker 1: don't know if a lot of you, but some of
Speaker 1: you are really in favor of that. Some I don't
Speaker 1: understand the philosophy in any way whatsoever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was kicking around social media over the weekend.
Speaker 4: Always a mistake, but and it was funny because there
Speaker 4: was kind of like an overlap between the situation in
Speaker 4: Syria right now where the new regime which is the
Speaker 4: former al Kada guys are fighting tooth and nail and
Speaker 4: all sorts of people are being killed in the streets
Speaker 4: as a SOD loyalist or loyalists or fighting them. Then
Speaker 4: allegedly some of the Syrian regime Islamist fundamentalist guys are
Speaker 4: killing minorities and Christians and whatever, and then the Ukraine
Speaker 4: there's this weird element of American I don't want to
Speaker 4: call it conservatism. That's got this. The Jews are in charge.
Speaker 4: Putin's a good guy. The US is a bad country.
Speaker 4: We've fallen under the sway of the global something or other.
Speaker 4: Then it gets back to the Jews, and getting any
Speaker 4: sort of reliable information is getting harder and harder because
Speaker 4: they've all got, you know, completely diametrically opposed spins of
Speaker 4: what's happening and why it's happening, and just the conversation
Speaker 4: on the conservative side of things has gotten very, very
Speaker 4: weird in my opinion.
Speaker 1: If at some point it becomes clear that we're really
Speaker 1: sticking it to Putin behind the scenes, or about to
Speaker 1: really stick it to Putin, and this was all part
Speaker 1: of a strategy or whatever, I will openly admit that,
Speaker 1: I promise, But right now, when ya ever gonna say
Speaker 1: anything that even hints at Putin being a bad guy
Speaker 1: or he did something he shouldn't have done that is
Speaker 1: awful as opposed to well, Putin's doing what anybody would do.
Speaker 2: He's trying to end this.
Speaker 1: I would like to see a little more effort out
Speaker 1: of Ukraine and trying to end this. So the guy
Speaker 1: who's bombed a hotel over the weekend and killed people.
Speaker 2: Is trying to end the war.
Speaker 1: The side that is continuing to defend itself and doesn't
Speaker 1: want to just give up is the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I read one analyst trying to explain how that was
Speaker 4: five dimensional chess to bring Putin to the table or something.
Speaker 4: But the idea that weakening Ukraine will bring Putin to
Speaker 4: the table sooner is bizarre to me.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't understand why, And so far there's been
Speaker 1: no real word out of Putin's side that he Everybody
Speaker 1: likes this idea, but Putin, Why would I if I'm Putin?
Speaker 2: Stop now?
Speaker 1: Okay, the United States is finally tired of this with
Speaker 1: all their support.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Now I got a chance to actually get what I
Speaker 1: originally wanted the whole damn country.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, this guy's point of view is that Putin is
Speaker 4: so much weaker domestically speaking than people are talking about
Speaker 4: that ending it would be great for him.
Speaker 1: See there you go. That's the sort of thing. And
Speaker 1: if that turns out to be true, I'm more than
Speaker 1: willing to say Trump new things. We didn't know it
Speaker 1: was three dimensional chess. Brilliant blah blah, blah, But I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's the case. And again, you got
Speaker 1: this whole giant idea of China, Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, Greenland, everything,
Speaker 1: that big face of influence that people keep talking about.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna be allowed to uh have a national
Speaker 1: debate about that at some pointer?
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's gonna play out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: don't know. Man.
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