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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Getty and no he Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like you right now should come out and be like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, the young man who's about to win

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<v Speaker 3>the state championship in the long jump in female sports,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should

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<v Speaker 3>step out and say no, no, And I appreciate, and

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<v Speaker 3>but like, would you do something like that, would you

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<v Speaker 3>say no men in female sports?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's I think it's an issue of fairness. I

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<v Speaker 2>completely agree with you on that.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? He didn't even say anything there.

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<v Speaker 1>How did it become controversial and he got attacked from

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<v Speaker 1>the left for betraying the transgender community.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He went wishy washy on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, although he broke cranks. It was like the far left,

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<v Speaker 4>the intersectionality crowd. It's like, you know, the the Russian

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<v Speaker 4>soldiers on the front in Ukraine. If say so much

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<v Speaker 4>as turn in the wrong direction their own people shoot them.

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<v Speaker 4>And Gavin showed signs of betraying transgender women.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't betray anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>The Eskimos need to stick with, the transgenders need to

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<v Speaker 4>stick with, the immigrants need to stick with. The Palestinians

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<v Speaker 4>need to you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I heard he walked with that back over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have that anywhere? Has anybody got that in

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<v Speaker 1>written or audio form? I meant to look that up,

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<v Speaker 1>that he walked that back after getting blasted by a

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<v Speaker 1>number of your more woke democrats in the country. And

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<v Speaker 1>again he didn't even make a strong declarative sentence there.

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<v Speaker 1>He just said, oh, no, I agree, it's an issue

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<v Speaker 1>of fairness, okay, and you think it's fair to what

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<v Speaker 1>allowed transgender girls unfair exactly sicily you still haven't said.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right, yeah, and yet that was way too much

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<v Speaker 4>for their crowd. But anyway, that whole you know, NATO

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<v Speaker 4>of intersectionality, whatever you want to describe it, that's how

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<v Speaker 4>you end up with something as patently absurd as queers

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<v Speaker 4>for Palestine. I mean, what could be more idiotic then?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, people who would be immediately tortured, killed, throw

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<v Speaker 4>off buildings, et cetera, rallying in favor of Islamism. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of Gaviy Newsome, his state of kel Unicornia. How

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<v Speaker 4>did it rank? Can US News and World Reports do

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<v Speaker 4>ranking of the states?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>US News and World Report appears to exist only for

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<v Speaker 4>ranking various things these days, and their methodology is certainly

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<v Speaker 4>worth griping about. But I think generally speaking, if you're ranked, say,

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<v Speaker 4>forty seventh in education, you're not great at it. Can

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<v Speaker 4>we all agree on that, at least broadly speaking. But

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<v Speaker 4>your top state overall, ladies and gentlemen, think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Lowish crime, solid economy, good education that's probably not real,

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<v Speaker 4>woke infrastructure, great natural environment. I give you Utah. New

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<v Speaker 4>Hampshire took the number two spot overall. Nebraska came in

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<v Speaker 4>at number three overall. This is an article from an

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<v Speaker 4>Orlando outlet. So they talked about Florida. Fairmount Florida placed

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<v Speaker 4>number nine, partly because the Sunshine State ranked highest among

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<v Speaker 4>all fifty states for higher education and the economy. Anyway, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we could do the overall rankings if you want.

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<v Speaker 4>You want your top ten, bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten for overall all criteria.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, your top ten mass counting up to number one, Massachusetts, Florida, Washington, Vermont, Iowa, Idaho, Minnesota, Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 4>New Hampshire utah of your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Really small and or low population states. There, not all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I would agree, Yeah yeah, and some right, some left,

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<v Speaker 4>some center, blah blah blah. Again, you could certainly quibble

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<v Speaker 4>with the various methodologies.

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<v Speaker 2>I always keep dougging into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, because if you have, for instance, like Illinois,

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see where do they rank in education? Because Illinois

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<v Speaker 4>got a number of eminent universities, they ranked quite high,

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<v Speaker 4>sixteenth in education. But I guarantee you elementary through high

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<v Speaker 4>school education is unforgivably horrifically.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a state and that's what I want ranked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, really in a lot of ways, because that

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<v Speaker 4>there's a direct correlation between that and whether they're they're

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<v Speaker 4>teaching the basics. Actually, here are allegedly your worst states,

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<v Speaker 4>and these might surprise as well. Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Michigan, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 4>South Calabama leading the country and shooting criminals in the

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<v Speaker 4>chest right well, and population growth as a percentage, so

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<v Speaker 4>it ain't that crappy. Alabama, Alaska, West Virginia, Arkansas, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 4>New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>And wah wah wah.

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<v Speaker 4>Sad Marty Ga trombone for Louisiana. It's a funny punch

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<v Speaker 4>line if I hadn't stumbled over it. But some of

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<v Speaker 4>these numbers, I mean, like South Cakilac, which I know

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<v Speaker 4>pretty well, is nineteenth for environment.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>See, And that's the trouble I have, Especially.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get into overall ratings, you'd throw in a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of squishy numbers and come up with one big,

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<v Speaker 1>giant squishy number the environment.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's quite possible that I would rank them completely

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<v Speaker 1>upside down on their criteria for whether I want to

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<v Speaker 1>live there or not.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>If they say that they rank it high because they

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<v Speaker 1>have better recycling programs with the garbage, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would have an inverse relationship with that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see. Yeah, I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I think the whole looking at their methodology might

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<v Speaker 4>be interesting then more interesting than the actual the results.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been for a long time, this kick of

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<v Speaker 1>public education and how we're failing so much that should

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<v Speaker 1>be we should be talking about that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people are graduating from your local grade school

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<v Speaker 1>or high school?

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<v Speaker 2>That can read or do math.

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<v Speaker 1>That should everybody should know that off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>their head those numbers, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would agree. I would agree completely. Who's doing

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<v Speaker 4>the measuring and what are their standards? That's what you

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<v Speaker 4>need to know. Oh, that reminds me on a completely

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<v Speaker 4>different topic of the sky rocketing rate of autism diagnosis

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States, and Alicia Finley, I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was wrote a really interesting piece. And I have a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>an adult child now, who's autistic, and I'm fairly up

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<v Speaker 4>on this sort of thing, and I certainly have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sympathetic view of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is a classic example of trying to understand

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening in the modern world and plawing through the

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<v Speaker 4>layer after layer of statistics and trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>what's true and not. I believe firmly that there is

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<v Speaker 4>a rise in autism in the United States. I have

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<v Speaker 4>no idea what's costing with doubt actual cases of kids

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<v Speaker 4>with the characteristics that.

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<v Speaker 2>Describe autism. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>On the other hand, there have been all sorts of

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<v Speaker 4>changes in diagnosis and in the financial rewards.

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<v Speaker 2>For school districts.

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<v Speaker 4>For instance, for kids diagnosed they get extra money and

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<v Speaker 4>so to rely on any of the statistics. Well, Trump

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<v Speaker 4>throughout the other day that we've gone from one in

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<v Speaker 4>ten thousand kids it's diagnosed with autism, now it's one

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<v Speaker 4>in thirty six.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something wrong, one in thirty six.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, A large measure of that statistic is just

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<v Speaker 4>changes in incentives and diagnosis, but not all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'm not leaping to some fist pounding, angry

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<v Speaker 4>talk show host conclusion here. I'm just saying it's really

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<v Speaker 4>difficult to figure out what's actually going on into what extent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then, if I'm going to be fair, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I complain, we complain constantly about how many layers

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<v Speaker 1>of administration they've added to schools clear across the country,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also true, all kinds of people that don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be there making a living in your school,

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<v Speaker 1>getting the tax money, as opposed to getting into the classroom.

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<v Speaker 1>If you got way more kids with autism and all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of different issues, you're gonna need more support. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a regular teacher only can't handle a class if you

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<v Speaker 1>got five autistic kids in there, right, right, It's a

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<v Speaker 1>classic example of both are true. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>rise in autism and a skyrocketing rise in the diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 1>They mentioned in the Wall Street Journal here that one

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<v Speaker 1>kid out of six in American public schools or diagnosis

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<v Speaker 1>having a disability, one out of six and five in

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<v Speaker 1>every class of thirty kids.

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<v Speaker 2>But do they really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then if you I know, I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about this, But it wants the infrastructure to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with that is, the human infrastructure is huge and very expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, And where he's needed a beautiful example of

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<v Speaker 4>a compassionate society, in my opinion, where it's legitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you know, you don't need all those layers

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<v Speaker 1>of DEI chieftains and their and their armies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a completely different thing. But was I gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, they're talking about you get down

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<v Speaker 1>there their kids, and then the teachers, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>all thets.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot what I was gonna say. It's probably being

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<v Speaker 2>out Trump. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The upside is I can uh hide my own Easter eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can watch the same sitcom over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again, laugh every time because I never heard.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the joke. The downside is I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>I was about to say, maybe we could get an

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<v Speaker 4>official diagnosis out of you and get some gunman money

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<v Speaker 4>for the show. Michael can be your minder. Michael, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>cut you in on the profits. Were fair.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds fine, fair minded. This is really bothering me.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of this because this is an important topic.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a complex and last diagnosing more kids with

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<v Speaker 4>more things, and so you got to have the humans

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<v Speaker 4>there to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know one more thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Cassidy was a doctor, medical doctor, not a fake

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<v Speaker 4>doctor like Jill Biden. He's a Republican senator and an

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<v Speaker 4>r f K Jr. And he were disagreeing leading up

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<v Speaker 4>to RFK Junior's hearings, right what do they call it,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, consent hearings and and and RFK kept saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you show me the science that says these inoculations are

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<v Speaker 4>not related to autism, and I will change my tune.

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<v Speaker 2>I will believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>And Bill Cassidy says, I brought him absolutely sterling, silver science,

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<v Speaker 4>huge studies, carefully controlled, peer reviewed blah blah blah, that

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<v Speaker 4>made the case. And he dismissed it out of hand

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<v Speaker 4>and said, now I don't believe that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, I didn't hear that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so Cassidy's really frustrating, frustrated with him that

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<v Speaker 4>and and one of the reasons R F. K. Junior said,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't believe that because of this paper here. Cassidy

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<v Speaker 4>said that that paper has been discredited in every which way,

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<v Speaker 4>And I have no horse in this race. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's the methodology was terrible, but Harf Cages wouldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's, you know, tough to get to the truth

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<v Speaker 2>these days. Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have spent a lot of money and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time, including this past weekend, on dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>one kid that's got a variety of the problems that

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<v Speaker 1>exists in this world.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not concerned they came from the vaccine. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's just me. Send your emails to Joe if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a different thought on that. I'm more on the

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<v Speaker 2>way here.

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<v Speaker 5>If fetanyl ends, I think these will come off. But

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<v Speaker 5>if fetanyl does not end, or he's uncertain about it,

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<v Speaker 5>they will stay this way until he is comfortable. This

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<v Speaker 5>is black and white. You got to save American lives.

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<v Speaker 5>So with respect with respect to fetanyl, this is about

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<v Speaker 5>the border and fetanyl.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Howard Lutnick to the Secretary Commerce talking about the tariffs,

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<v Speaker 4>the fentanyl, the precursor chemicals at the very least, which

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<v Speaker 4>come from China then flow through Mexico and to a

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<v Speaker 4>lesser extent Canada in.

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<v Speaker 2>The United States.

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<v Speaker 4>And speaking of China, really interesting analysis I came across

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<v Speaker 4>and troubling from a handful of the writers and analysts

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<v Speaker 4>in the Wall Street Journal. Umbrella. It's about China's projection.

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<v Speaker 4>They're waging a gray zone campaign. And here's what they

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<v Speaker 4>mean by that, and it's, you know, the South China Sea,

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<v Speaker 4>the Taiwan Strait, even up into the Himalayas. They're operating

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<v Speaker 4>in the hazy zone between war and peace to extend

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<v Speaker 4>their power.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 4>Beijing carefully calibrates each move with the aim of staying

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<v Speaker 4>just below the threshold of action that.

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<v Speaker 2>Could trigger outright conflict.

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<v Speaker 4>But step by incremental step, it is pushed deeper into

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<v Speaker 4>contested areas, exhausting opponents and eroding their strength with a

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<v Speaker 4>thousand cuts. What they're talking about is probes by warplanes,

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<v Speaker 4>maneuvered by kost guard ships, or the creeping construction of

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<v Speaker 4>new civilian settlements. They push you in the region right

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<v Speaker 4>to the brink of war, over and over and over again,

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<v Speaker 4>and they carefully calculate what's going to bring a shooting

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<v Speaker 4>war on and calibrate just below that, over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>This article is illustrated visually in a way that I

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<v Speaker 4>wish we could show you well. Post it at an

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<v Speaker 4>armstrong in getty dot com under hotlines. It'll probably get paywall,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but it shows the actual tracking of

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<v Speaker 4>ships for instances little lines, and where there have been

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of ships circling an island or whatever, it

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<v Speaker 4>becomes a very thick, heavy line. So you can look

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<v Speaker 4>at what China's doing physically satellite images and plane tracking

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<v Speaker 4>equipment and that sort of thing. But it is so

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<v Speaker 4>obviously increasingly aggressive in ways that are indefensible by their rhetoric,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they're pushing closer and closer and closer to the

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<v Speaker 4>coast of the Philippines and claiming islands and taking over islands,

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<v Speaker 4>or so heavily patrolling those islands and ramming ships. We've

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<v Speaker 4>seen that recently. Sometimes it's the Chinese Coast Guard. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>it's this militia of private fishing vessels which they've deputized

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<v Speaker 4>to just make life living hell for for instance, Filipino

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<v Speaker 4>fishermen or their navy or whatever, and so bit by

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<v Speaker 4>bit by bit, they're pushing everybody back and staying just

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<v Speaker 4>under what would trigger a shooting war.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm endlessly fascinated with the whole China thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody should be, because yeah, they're hell bent

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<v Speaker 1>on taking over the world. Do you think there would

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<v Speaker 1>be you could have when do we have the Beijing

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics coming some medy google that real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>When we have the Olympics of Beijing? Wasn't that long ago?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, I was shocked that it happened. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was like twenty twelve or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway we can look it up. That'll that'll never

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<v Speaker 2>happen again. What do you got there? Oh no, No,

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<v Speaker 2>the Winter Olympics isn't either.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Putin promised he wouldn't evade during the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what twenty two, Yeah, so it was right before

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<v Speaker 1>the war in Ukraine. But I remember thinking then that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe we're participating. I mean, the whole world

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<v Speaker 1>is going to China and acting like they're just a

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<v Speaker 1>regular country.

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<v Speaker 2>Surely we wouldn't now, but maybe we would. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>The un is ridiculous, Yes it is, and it's worth

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<v Speaker 4>reviewing that whole system of little islands they created in

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<v Speaker 4>the South China Sea, where they built them up but

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<v Speaker 4>swore they wouldn't militarize them, then built you know, landing

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<v Speaker 4>strips and said, but don't worry, we won't put weapons

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<v Speaker 4>systems on them. And the reason that's been even more

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<v Speaker 4>important than anybody realized is because now all those islands

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<v Speaker 4>are like little military bases. They're stopping points so they

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<v Speaker 4>can patrol in a much wider area and not have

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<v Speaker 4>to come back home, so they can refuel, refeed the guys, whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>and project their power much more efficiently over a much

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<v Speaker 4>bigger zone. So that you have militarized a huge section

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<v Speaker 4>of the ocean that never was before.

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<v Speaker 2>That is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I have things to say about that, but maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>other time, because this topic will be around for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Geeddy, now.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I can't have you two at each other's throats, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>after all, I have a perfect record. Everyone who's ever

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<v Speaker 6>worked for me has left on good terms and then

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<v Speaker 6>gone on to write a book called The Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Who Ruined Everything.

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<v Speaker 6>So you too need to start acting like mature adults.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's begin with Marco Parno.

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<v Speaker 6>No Eli, I'm trying to talk to MARCOO.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that? What's this? What's this? Doing this? What's this?

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows? Okay, it's his little dance. We let him

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<v Speaker 2>do it. It's his least unsettling trick.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's from Saturday Night Live, which, weirdly, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to actually talk to Lorden Mark Michaels about this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a genius of keeping that thing relevant over a

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<v Speaker 1>half a century, but the opening thing is always so

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<v Speaker 1>off putting to those of us who don't agree with

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<v Speaker 1>his politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the rest of the show is sketch comedy. But

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<v Speaker 2>you got like a big chunk of the country that

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<v Speaker 2>can't get past your open every week.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're a sketch comedy that's just about any topic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's non political. The show is mostly.

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<v Speaker 1>Non political, but for a whole bunch of Saturday Night

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<v Speaker 1>Live haters in this country, it's a political show because.

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<v Speaker 2>I only see your opening segment. Stop with it? Would

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<v Speaker 2>you just stop?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when your opening segment is a loud declaration of

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<v Speaker 4>you're not welcome here every week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an odd marketing.

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<v Speaker 1>Maneuver, right, But anyway, Elon now being portrayed by Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Myers and I come back Saturday Night Live, and just

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that Elon is now such a villain of

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<v Speaker 1>the left is man who saw that coming ten years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>No, nobody, nobody. I mean, he was the leader of.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to go electric with cars, climate changes our

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<v Speaker 1>biggest problem, you know, all that sort of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>a hero of the left, and you know, I live

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<v Speaker 1>in a part of the country, or people buying were

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<v Speaker 1>buying Tesla's even though they didn't make sense, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>way too expensive virtue signaling. Now it's flipped completely the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite direction, as we all know. Over the weekend, hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of New Yorkers swarmed and shut down the Tesla dealer

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<v Speaker 1>in Manhattan. They shut down a major car dealership, an

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<v Speaker 1>electric car dealership. Six were arrested after occupying the showroom

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<v Speaker 1>and shattering all the windows and everything. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>said had to post a police at the big Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>dealerships and a whole bunch of other cities around the

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<v Speaker 1>country to try to try to protect them.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a video.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was just one nut job running out

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<v Speaker 1>of the street and pounding on a cyber truck in traffic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what this is going to do to

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<v Speaker 2>the value of Tesla's.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost want to buy a cyber truck now, just

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<v Speaker 1>as a giant middle finger to the people who ate

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<v Speaker 1>eln so much, because it's such a noticeable thing, just

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<v Speaker 1>like blon so the folks who pull this.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of thing. Back in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Two found that twenty two percent of car shoppers surveyed

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<v Speaker 4>said they would definitely consider a Tesla for their next vehicle,

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<v Speaker 4>purchased twenty two percent. By last summer, the percentage you

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<v Speaker 4>dropped to seven percent, dropped by more than two thirds,

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<v Speaker 4>roughly in line with Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's now more popular with Republicans than Democrats. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though they're not actually probably going to buy the car,

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<v Speaker 1>their view of it is higher.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's It's definitely an unprecedented alignment of a

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<v Speaker 4>product with a political point of view in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, it's not like, I mean, Target was

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<v Speaker 4>selling repugnant items for confused adolescents during their whole up

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<v Speaker 4>with trans thing. Okay, Tesla's just you get in it,

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<v Speaker 4>you go to the store, and then you come back

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<v Speaker 4>home again. It's not like it's plays Trump speeches and

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<v Speaker 4>that you can't turn them off or.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll you know, it'll only take you.

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<v Speaker 4>To the the VA, you know, any and not to

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<v Speaker 4>the ballet or.

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<v Speaker 1>The self driving system runs over government workers if it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sees them right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an agnostic product. It's just but uh, well, more

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<v Speaker 1>on that in a second. Would there's a we got

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of protest locally you have, Katie, There was

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<v Speaker 1>a protest at the Tesla dealership on Arden Arcade on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>More than one hundred protesters showed up and they lined

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the thoroughfare. One hundred's a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>turnout on a Saturday for a car dealership because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the politics of the guy who started it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now a publicly traded company.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just I mean, boy cutting bud light

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<v Speaker 1>because they had the trans person on there. You know, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll drink a different beer that tastes exactly the same

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just there's so little but telling your car or

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<v Speaker 1>attacking the dealership just seems.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 4>The other aspect of it that we point out many

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<v Speaker 4>times and we'll continue to is that the Trump voter

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<v Speaker 4>is about half of America, or at least you know, Conservatives, Republicans,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is, it's half of America. So you're saying

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<v Speaker 4>that something that is aligned with half of the country

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<v Speaker 4>is so repugnant and outrageous. I won't even be seen

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<v Speaker 4>in it, even if it's a fabulous product. The whole

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<v Speaker 4>up with trans thing is a tiny percentage, So again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a poor comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then you have the weird aspect that's unique

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<v Speaker 1>that Tesla's main appeal was too progressives to start with, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was more of a gesture than a reality

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<v Speaker 1>of you were perfectly okay with the car you had before.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not actually affecting climate change by getting a Tesla.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Washington Post has an article anger at Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk turns violent with molotov cocktails and gunfire at Tesla dealerships,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, here's one of the breakdowns of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Anger at Elon Musk is turning violent. People are burning

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<v Speaker 1>his cars and shooting his stores, leaving front like Tesla

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<v Speaker 1>workers and ordinary vehicle owners to bear the brunt of

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<v Speaker 1>the anger incited by Musk's politics. Is how they write it.

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<v Speaker 1>He incited this. They have no coneyway.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I supposed to do? He incited me?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's in the New York Post, Washington Post, a

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<v Speaker 4>Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, elon Musks because he is a fiscal conservative

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<v Speaker 1>and supports Trump, has incited you to shooting up a

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla dealership.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an interesting way good left wing journalism right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unbelievable. See what they did, well caught? Yeah, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>well I should dig this up because this is really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead in a way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of ironic that and we've been saying this

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<v Speaker 4>for a long time, and this, I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>proof that the whole electric vehicle thing is not clearly

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<v Speaker 4>a net positive for the environment. Even if you are

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<v Speaker 4>staunchily in favor of doing whatever is best environmentally, it

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<v Speaker 4>is far far from indisputable that electric cars do anything

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<v Speaker 4>good because the battery and the weight and the tires

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<v Speaker 4>and the excavation and the materials and the rearers.

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<v Speaker 2>And the mining and blah blah blah, blah blah. We've

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<v Speaker 2>all gone over that many times.

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<v Speaker 4>But isn't this proof that since it was just symbolic anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>well you might as well stop buying them because it

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<v Speaker 4>was just symbolic anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean Tesla is the most

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<v Speaker 1>is the most valuable car dealership in the world because

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<v Speaker 1>of symbolism, not because there are no numbers to back

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<v Speaker 1>that up.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make.

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<v Speaker 1>Any sense to one as soever. It's such a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>number of cars. That's fine motor car indeed. But somebody

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<v Speaker 1>made the point. I remember who it was. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if MAGA was vandalizing electric vehicles across the what

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<v Speaker 1>a news story it would be and how it would

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<v Speaker 1>be portrayed right as a bunch of science denying poltroons.

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<v Speaker 1>But when lefties are attacking an electric car dealership at

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<v Speaker 1>they were incited by the evil.

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler want to be Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 4>They are incited into mostly peaceful protests. Yesh, And we

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned this earlier in the show. Tesla's stock has dropped

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<v Speaker 4>forty five percent since December. That is extraordinary, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>still valued at eight hundred and forty seven billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>more than any other car company.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is inexplicable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the percentage of Democrats had said they consider buying

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<v Speaker 4>a Tesla declined from twenty three percent last summer to

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<v Speaker 4>I guess those two summers ago, twenty three percent to

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<v Speaker 4>thirteen percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently.

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<v Speaker 4>Over that period, the percentage would be Republican buyers grew

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<v Speaker 4>from fifteen to twenty six percent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny, isn't that something?

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<v Speaker 1>And again that is a would consider because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Republicans are gonna buy Tesla's. Most of the places

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Republicans live is not that handy a vehicle for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this the inevitable fallout of a society that's gone

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<v Speaker 4>from hardly thinking about politics at all to obsessing about

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<v Speaker 4>it all the time and identifying ourselves as one thing

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<v Speaker 4>or another might be?

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<v Speaker 2>So it is worth telling you, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 4>Start, you know, Joe's star spangled breakfast cereals.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we'd expanded Jim shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course Trump has already kind of done that, but

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<v Speaker 4>Joe's star spangled, but be the brand. We'd have star

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<v Speaker 4>spangled poasters.

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<v Speaker 1>Pens, clothing, This reminding nasal spray for allergy season. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>stealing this from Sarah. I isger of the Dispatch, so

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<v Speaker 1>all credit to her for bringing this to my attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not pretentding I caught onto this on my own,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was talking about it on the Dispatch podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day.

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<v Speaker 1>So down in Texas, this guy pranked one of his

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<v Speaker 1>friends and it worked, which gets to your point. So

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<v Speaker 1>this this dude claimed to a bunch of people there's

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<v Speaker 1>a Texas chili cookoff going on sort of thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>claim to the friends that you know, beans in chili

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<v Speaker 1>is a woke thing, and how real chili only ever

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<v Speaker 1>had meat in it, and back in the day the

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>wolkester is trying to get us off of meat and

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<v Speaker 1>convince us that we needed to eat beans, got it

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<v Speaker 1>into chili and made all this different sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so this chili guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Started taking beans out of the chili, making the declaration

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not this is not woke chili. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the dude had to go to the other dude and say,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I was just kidding, that was a joke. I was

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't true, and then he got very very angry.

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that it worked is the thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets to your point of is it just mean that

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<v Speaker 1>we've become too obsessed with politics now that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>choose how you make you're chili or which car you

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<v Speaker 1>drive or whatever based on how it aligns with politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If somebody convinced me that only progressive was like tomato

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 4>sauce on pizza and that grape jelly is really the

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<v Speaker 4>conservative way to go, I'm still eating the hole right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't make me a transgender or or whatever woke

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, the sanctuary said, I'm for good pizza

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<v Speaker 4>and cars that run.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's just what's the matter with everybody calmed down? Yeah,

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>makes it difficult, makes it difficult. Oh, I know I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't mention. We're not a stock show. But this is,

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<v Speaker 2>in all fairness.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that Tesla could drop forty five percent since

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<v Speaker 1>December is he had a huge bump after the election.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Tesla stock shot through the roof after the election. He

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>was already high, but so that has been erased since

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the election, and now it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to where it was already very very high before.

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<v Speaker 4>So ah, oh, an important asterisk right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fair to mention, But that other stuff about how

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<v Speaker 1>popular it is among the republics and Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all true. We got a lot more in the

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<v Speaker 2>ways today.

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<v Speaker 7>Here there are battles, I mean intense battles taking place.

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<v Speaker 2>There's video of Russians.

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<v Speaker 7>Making their way through abandoned gas pipes to try and

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<v Speaker 7>get to the Ukrainians to fight of drone strikes on

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 7>Ukrainian tanks in that area of Kursk. Why is that

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<v Speaker 7>so intense? Why is it so important? Because Ukrainians hope

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 7>to hold that ground in order to negotiate a swap

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 7>of some kind of territory, territorial swap. I mean, that's

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 7>what we perceive the Ukrainians want to do. Now, if

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 7>they lose that ground and the Russians are clearly determined

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 7>that they will, then that obviously changes the negotiation. And

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 7>that's all important too. Going back to your question, because ultimately,

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<v Speaker 7>if you are the Kremlin and you think that you

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 7>are winning in Kursk, and you think that you will

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<v Speaker 7>get that ground back in the weeks, but maybe months ahead,

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<v Speaker 7>why would you agree to a seiz fin.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's a very good question, Cure Simmons of NBC,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're I don't quite understand some of the strategy.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Ucia really went hard at Ukraine over the weekend. Probably

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>worth playing this back and forth with Trump and a reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you, as a president, think that Vladimir Putin is

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<v Speaker 1>taking advantage of the US pause right now on intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>and military aid to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 8>I actually think he's doing what anybody else would do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he wants to get it stopped and settled.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think he's hitting him harder than he's been

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<v Speaker 8>hitting him, And I think probably anybody in that position

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 8>would be doing that right now. He wants to get

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 8>it ended, and I think Ukraine wants to get it ended.

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<v Speaker 8>But I don't see it's crazy. They're taking tremendous punishment.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand that position at all, nor do I

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't make any sense to me. Well, the Ukrainians resisted

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<v Speaker 4>the invasion of a hostile.

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<v Speaker 1>Neighbor, so they wouldn't die anybody else would have done

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<v Speaker 1>and live under the thumb of a dictator, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we stopped. Now today Trump has said, oh, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start the intelligence sharing up real soon again.

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>So maybe we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but we stopped sharing intelligence, which I

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>guess is more important than practically anything else. You know,

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>several days back sharing intelligence with Ukraine, Russia attacks the

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<v Speaker 1>be Jesus out of him. Trump's asked about that, he says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Putin's doing what anybody would do. He wants to end

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>this thing, so he's gonna kill as many innocent Ukrainians

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<v Speaker 1>as possible so they'll submit and he gets to take

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>as much of their country. I don't I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>this at all. I know a lot of you. I

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know if a lot of you, but some of

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you are really in favor of that. Some I don't

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>understand the philosophy in any way whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was kicking around social media over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Always a mistake, but and it was funny because there

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.719
<v Speaker 4>was kind of like an overlap between the situation in

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Syria right now where the new regime which is the

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 4>former al Kada guys are fighting tooth and nail and

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 4>all sorts of people are being killed in the streets

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 4>as a SOD loyalist or loyalists or fighting them. Then

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 4>allegedly some of the Syrian regime Islamist fundamentalist guys are

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<v Speaker 4>killing minorities and Christians and whatever, and then the Ukraine

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 4>there's this weird element of American I don't want to

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 4>call it conservatism. That's got this. The Jews are in charge.

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Putin's a good guy. The US is a bad country.

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 4>We've fallen under the sway of the global something or other.

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<v Speaker 4>Then it gets back to the Jews, and getting any

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 4>sort of reliable information is getting harder and harder because

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 4>they've all got, you know, completely diametrically opposed spins of

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 4>what's happening and why it's happening, and just the conversation

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 4>on the conservative side of things has gotten very, very

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 4>weird in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>If at some point it becomes clear that we're really

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<v Speaker 1>sticking it to Putin behind the scenes, or about to

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<v Speaker 1>really stick it to Putin, and this was all part

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of a strategy or whatever, I will openly admit that,

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I promise, But right now, when ya ever gonna say

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>anything that even hints at Putin being a bad guy

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>or he did something he shouldn't have done that is

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>awful as opposed to well, Putin's doing what anybody would do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to end this.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see a little more effort out

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>of Ukraine and trying to end this. So the guy

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>who's bombed a hotel over the weekend and killed people.

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Is trying to end the war.

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<v Speaker 1>The side that is continuing to defend itself and doesn't

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>want to just give up is the problem.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I read one analyst trying to explain how that was

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 4>five dimensional chess to bring Putin to the table or something.

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 4>But the idea that weakening Ukraine will bring Putin to

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 4>the table sooner is bizarre to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I don't understand why, And so far there's been

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>no real word out of Putin's side that he Everybody

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>likes this idea, but Putin, Why would I if I'm Putin?

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Stop now?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the United States is finally tired of this with

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>all their support.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Now I got a chance to actually get what I

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>originally wanted the whole damn country.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, this guy's point of view is that Putin is

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 4>so much weaker domestically speaking than people are talking about

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:23.919
<v Speaker 4>that ending it would be great for him.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>See there you go. That's the sort of thing. And

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>if that turns out to be true, I'm more than

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>willing to say Trump new things. We didn't know it

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>was three dimensional chess. Brilliant blah blah, blah, But I

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know that that's the case. And again, you got

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>this whole giant idea of China, Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, Greenland, everything,

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that big face of influence that people keep talking about.

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna be allowed to uh have a national

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>debate about that at some pointer?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that's gonna play out. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Man.

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