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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and no he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: It's like you right now should come out and be like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, the young man who's about to win

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Speaker 3: the state championship in the long jump in female sports,

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Speaker 3: that's that that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should

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Speaker 3: step out and say no, no, And I appreciate, and

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Speaker 3: but like, would you do something like that, would you

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Speaker 3: say no men in female sports?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's I think it's an issue of fairness. I

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Speaker 2: completely agree with you on that.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? He didn't even say anything there.

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Speaker 1: How did it become controversial and he got attacked from

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Speaker 1: the left for betraying the transgender community.

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Speaker 2: He didn't.

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Speaker 1: He went wishy washy on that.

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Speaker 4: Well, although he broke cranks. It was like the far left,

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Speaker 4: the intersectionality crowd. It's like, you know, the the Russian

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Speaker 4: soldiers on the front in Ukraine. If say so much

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Speaker 4: as turn in the wrong direction their own people shoot them.

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Speaker 4: And Gavin showed signs of betraying transgender women.

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Speaker 2: And you can't betray anybody.

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Speaker 4: The Eskimos need to stick with, the transgenders need to

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Speaker 4: stick with, the immigrants need to stick with. The Palestinians

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Speaker 4: need to you know.

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Speaker 2: Now I heard he walked with that back over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Do we have that anywhere? Has anybody got that in

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Speaker 1: written or audio form? I meant to look that up,

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Speaker 1: that he walked that back after getting blasted by a

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Speaker 1: number of your more woke democrats in the country. And

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Speaker 1: again he didn't even make a strong declarative sentence there.

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Speaker 1: He just said, oh, no, I agree, it's an issue

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Speaker 1: of fairness, okay, and you think it's fair to what

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Speaker 1: allowed transgender girls unfair exactly sicily you still haven't said.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, yeah, and yet that was way too much

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Speaker 4: for their crowd. But anyway, that whole you know, NATO

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Speaker 4: of intersectionality, whatever you want to describe it, that's how

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Speaker 4: you end up with something as patently absurd as queers

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Speaker 4: for Palestine. I mean, what could be more idiotic then?

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Speaker 4: You know, people who would be immediately tortured, killed, throw

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Speaker 4: off buildings, et cetera, rallying in favor of Islamism. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Gaviy Newsome, his state of kel Unicornia. How

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Speaker 4: did it rank? Can US News and World Reports do

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Speaker 4: ranking of the states?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: US News and World Report appears to exist only for

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Speaker 4: ranking various things these days, and their methodology is certainly

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Speaker 4: worth griping about. But I think generally speaking, if you're ranked, say,

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Speaker 4: forty seventh in education, you're not great at it. Can

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Speaker 4: we all agree on that, at least broadly speaking. But

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Speaker 4: your top state overall, ladies and gentlemen, think about it.

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Speaker 4: Lowish crime, solid economy, good education that's probably not real,

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Speaker 4: woke infrastructure, great natural environment. I give you Utah. New

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Speaker 4: Hampshire took the number two spot overall. Nebraska came in

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Speaker 4: at number three overall. This is an article from an

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Speaker 4: Orlando outlet. So they talked about Florida. Fairmount Florida placed

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Speaker 4: number nine, partly because the Sunshine State ranked highest among

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Speaker 4: all fifty states for higher education and the economy. Anyway, Hey,

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Speaker 4: you know, we could do the overall rankings if you want.

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Speaker 4: You want your top ten, bottom.

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Speaker 2: Ten for overall all criteria.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, your top ten mass counting up to number one, Massachusetts, Florida, Washington, Vermont, Iowa, Idaho, Minnesota, Nebraska,

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Speaker 4: New Hampshire utah of your body.

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Speaker 1: Really small and or low population states. There, not all

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Speaker 1: of them, but a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I would agree, Yeah yeah, and some right, some left,

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Speaker 4: some center, blah blah blah. Again, you could certainly quibble

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Speaker 4: with the various methodologies.

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Speaker 2: I always keep dougging into it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because if you have, for instance, like Illinois,

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Speaker 4: Let's see where do they rank in education? Because Illinois

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Speaker 4: got a number of eminent universities, they ranked quite high,

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Speaker 4: sixteenth in education. But I guarantee you elementary through high

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Speaker 4: school education is unforgivably horrifically.

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Speaker 2: That's a state and that's what I want ranked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, really in a lot of ways, because that

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Speaker 4: there's a direct correlation between that and whether they're they're

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Speaker 4: teaching the basics. Actually, here are allegedly your worst states,

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Speaker 4: and these might surprise as well. Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Michigan, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 4: South Calabama leading the country and shooting criminals in the

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Speaker 4: chest right well, and population growth as a percentage, so

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Speaker 4: it ain't that crappy. Alabama, Alaska, West Virginia, Arkansas, Mississippi,

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Speaker 2: And wah wah wah.

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Speaker 4: line if I hadn't stumbled over it. But some of

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Speaker 2: What does that even mean?

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Speaker 1: I don't know?

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Speaker 2: See, And that's the trouble I have, Especially.

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Speaker 1: If you get into overall ratings, you'd throw in a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of squishy numbers and come up with one big,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And it's quite possible that I would rank them completely

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: If they say that they rank it high because they

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Speaker 2: So I would have an inverse relationship with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's see. Yeah, I'm looking.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I think the whole looking at their methodology might

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Speaker 4: be interesting then more interesting than the actual the results.

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Speaker 2: You know. I'm on this.

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Speaker 1: I have been for a long time, this kick of

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Speaker 1: public education and how we're failing so much that should

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Speaker 1: be we should be talking about that all the time.

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Speaker 1: How many people are graduating from your local grade school

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Speaker 2: That can read or do math.

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Speaker 1: That should everybody should know that off the top of

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Speaker 1: their head those numbers, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree. I would agree completely. Who's doing

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Speaker 4: the measuring and what are their standards? That's what you

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Speaker 4: need to know. Oh, that reminds me on a completely

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Speaker 4: different topic of the sky rocketing rate of autism diagnosis

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Speaker 4: in the United States, and Alicia Finley, I think it

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Speaker 4: was wrote a really interesting piece. And I have a kid,

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Speaker 4: an adult child now, who's autistic, and I'm fairly up

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Speaker 4: on this sort of thing, and I certainly have a.

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Speaker 2: Sympathetic view of it.

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Speaker 4: But this is a classic example of trying to understand

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Speaker 4: what's happening in the modern world and plawing through the

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Speaker 4: layer after layer of statistics and trying to figure out

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Speaker 4: what's true and not. I believe firmly that there is

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Speaker 4: a rise in autism in the United States. I have

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Speaker 4: no idea what's costing with doubt actual cases of kids

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Speaker 2: Describe autism. Okay.

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, there have been all sorts of

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Speaker 4: changes in diagnosis and in the financial rewards.

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Speaker 4: For instance, for kids diagnosed they get extra money and

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Speaker 4: so to rely on any of the statistics. Well, Trump

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Speaker 4: throughout the other day that we've gone from one in

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Speaker 4: ten thousand kids it's diagnosed with autism, now it's one

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Speaker 4: in thirty six.

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Speaker 2: There's something wrong, one in thirty six.

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Speaker 4: He said, A large measure of that statistic is just

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Speaker 4: changes in incentives and diagnosis, but not all of it.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm not leaping to some fist pounding, angry

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Speaker 4: talk show host conclusion here. I'm just saying it's really

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Speaker 4: difficult to figure out what's actually going on into what extent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, if I'm going to be fair, even

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Speaker 1: though I complain, we complain constantly about how many layers

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Speaker 1: of administration they've added to schools clear across the country,

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Speaker 1: which is also true, all kinds of people that don't

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Speaker 1: need to be there making a living in your school,

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Speaker 1: getting the tax money, as opposed to getting into the classroom.

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Speaker 1: If you got way more kids with autism and all

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Speaker 1: kinds of different issues, you're gonna need more support. Just

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Speaker 1: got five autistic kids in there, right, right, It's a

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Speaker 1: classic example of both are true. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: rise in autism and a skyrocketing rise in the diagnosis.

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Speaker 1: They mentioned in the Wall Street Journal here that one

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Speaker 1: kid out of six in American public schools or diagnosis

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Speaker 1: having a disability, one out of six and five in

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Speaker 2: But do they really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then if you I know, I know a

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Speaker 1: lot about this, But it wants the infrastructure to deal

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Speaker 4: Right right, And where he's needed a beautiful example of

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Speaker 4: a compassionate society, in my opinion, where it's legitimate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, you don't need all those layers

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Speaker 2: That's a completely different thing. But was I gonna say.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, they're talking about you get down

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Speaker 2: I forgot what I was gonna say. It's probably being

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Speaker 1: The upside is I can uh hide my own Easter eggs.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the joke. The downside is I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, maybe we could get an

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Speaker 4: official diagnosis out of you and get some gunman money

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Speaker 4: for the show. Michael can be your minder. Michael, we'll

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Speaker 4: cut you in on the profits. Were fair.

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Speaker 1: That sounds fine, fair minded. This is really bothering me.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of this because this is an important topic.

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Speaker 4: It was a complex and last diagnosing more kids with

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Speaker 4: more things, and so you got to have the humans

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Speaker 2: And I don't know one more thought.

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Speaker 4: Bill Cassidy was a doctor, medical doctor, not a fake

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Speaker 4: to RFK Junior's hearings, right what do they call it,

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Speaker 4: you know, consent hearings and and and RFK kept saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: you show me the science that says these inoculations are

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Speaker 4: not related to autism, and I will change my tune.

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Speaker 2: I will believe it.

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Speaker 4: And Bill Cassidy says, I brought him absolutely sterling, silver science,

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Speaker 4: huge studies, carefully controlled, peer reviewed blah blah blah, that

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Speaker 4: and said, now I don't believe that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so Cassidy's really frustrating, frustrated with him that

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Speaker 4: I don't believe that because of this paper here. Cassidy

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Speaker 4: said that that paper has been discredited in every which way,

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Speaker 4: And I have no horse in this race. It's just

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Speaker 4: it's the methodology was terrible, but Harf Cages wouldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: So it's, you know, tough to get to the truth

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Speaker 1: And I have spent a lot of money and a

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Speaker 1: lot of time, including this past weekend, on dealing with

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Speaker 2: But I'm not concerned they came from the vaccine. So

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Speaker 2: that's just me. Send your emails to Joe if you

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Speaker 2: have a different thought on that. I'm more on the

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Geeddy, now.

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Speaker 6: Look, I can't have you two at each other's throats, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Who Ruined Everything.

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Speaker 6: So you too need to start acting like mature adults.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's begin with Marco Parno.

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Speaker 2: What is that? What's this? What's this? Doing this? What's this?

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Speaker 1: So that's from Saturday Night Live, which, weirdly, I'd like

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Speaker 2: Then the rest of the show is sketch comedy. But

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Speaker 1: So you're a sketch comedy that's just about any topic.

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Speaker 2: I only see your opening segment. Stop with it? Would

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Speaker 4: Well, when your opening segment is a loud declaration of

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Speaker 1: Maneuver, right, But anyway, Elon now being portrayed by Mike

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Speaker 1: We need to go electric with cars, climate changes our

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Speaker 2: I saw a video.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was just one nut job running out

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Speaker 4: Two found that twenty two percent of car shoppers surveyed

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Speaker 1: But it's now more popular with Republicans than Democrats. Even

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's It's definitely an unprecedented alignment of a

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Speaker 4: with trans thing. Okay, Tesla's just you get in it,

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Speaker 2: It'll you know, it'll only take you.

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Speaker 4: To the the VA, you know, any and not to

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Speaker 1: The self driving system runs over government workers if it.

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Speaker 2: Sees them right.

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Speaker 1: It's an agnostic product. It's just but uh, well, more

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I mean, boy cutting bud light

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Speaker 1: It's just there's so little but telling your car or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you have the weird aspect that's unique

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Speaker 1: Anger at Elon Musk is turning violent. People are burning

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Speaker 1: He incited this. They have no coneyway.

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Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do? He incited me?

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Speaker 4: And that's in the New York Post, Washington Post, a

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, elon Musks because he is a fiscal conservative

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Speaker 4: proof that the whole electric vehicle thing is not clearly

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Speaker 4: a net positive for the environment. Even if you are

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Speaker 4: staunchily in favor of doing whatever is best environmentally, it

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Speaker 4: is far far from indisputable that electric cars do anything

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Speaker 4: good because the battery and the weight and the tires

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Speaker 4: and the excavation and the materials and the rearers.

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Speaker 2: And the mining and blah blah blah, blah blah. We've

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Speaker 2: all gone over that many times.

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Speaker 4: But isn't this proof that since it was just symbolic anyway,

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Speaker 4: well you might as well stop buying them because it

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Speaker 4: was just symbolic anyway.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean Tesla is the most

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Speaker 1: is the most valuable car dealership in the world because

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Speaker 1: of symbolism, not because there are no numbers to back

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Speaker 1: that up.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make.

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Speaker 1: Any sense to one as soever. It's such a tiny

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Speaker 1: number of cars. That's fine motor car indeed. But somebody

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Speaker 1: made the point. I remember who it was. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine if MAGA was vandalizing electric vehicles across the what

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Speaker 1: a news story it would be and how it would

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Speaker 1: be portrayed right as a bunch of science denying poltroons.

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Speaker 1: But when lefties are attacking an electric car dealership at

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Speaker 1: they were incited by the evil.

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Speaker 2: Hitler want to be Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: They are incited into mostly peaceful protests. Yesh, And we

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Speaker 4: mentioned this earlier in the show. Tesla's stock has dropped

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Speaker 4: forty five percent since December. That is extraordinary, and it's

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Speaker 4: still valued at eight hundred and forty seven billion dollars,

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Speaker 4: more than any other car company.

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Speaker 2: Which is inexplicable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the percentage of Democrats had said they consider buying

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Speaker 4: a Tesla declined from twenty three percent last summer to

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Speaker 4: I guess those two summers ago, twenty three percent to

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Speaker 4: thirteen percent.

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Speaker 2: Recently.

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Speaker 4: Over that period, the percentage would be Republican buyers grew

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Speaker 4: from fifteen to twenty six percent.

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Speaker 2: That's funny, isn't that something?

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Speaker 1: And again that is a would consider because I don't

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Speaker 1: think Republicans are gonna buy Tesla's. Most of the places

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Speaker 1: Republicans live is not that handy a vehicle for them.

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Speaker 4: Is this the inevitable fallout of a society that's gone

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Speaker 4: from hardly thinking about politics at all to obsessing about

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Speaker 4: it all the time and identifying ourselves as one thing

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Speaker 4: or another might be?

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Speaker 2: So it is worth telling you, I gotta.

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Speaker 4: Start, you know, Joe's star spangled breakfast cereals.

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Speaker 2: Then we'd expanded Jim shoes.

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Speaker 4: Of course Trump has already kind of done that, but

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Speaker 4: Joe's star spangled, but be the brand. We'd have star

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Speaker 4: spangled poasters.

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Speaker 1: Pens, clothing, This reminding nasal spray for allergy season. I'm

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Speaker 1: stealing this from Sarah. I isger of the Dispatch, so

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Speaker 1: all credit to her for bringing this to my attention.

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Speaker 1: I'm not pretentding I caught onto this on my own,

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Speaker 1: but she was talking about it on the Dispatch podcast.

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Speaker 2: The other day.

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Speaker 1: So down in Texas, this guy pranked one of his

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Speaker 1: friends and it worked, which gets to your point. So

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Speaker 1: this this dude claimed to a bunch of people there's

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Speaker 1: a Texas chili cookoff going on sort of thing, and

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Speaker 1: claim to the friends that you know, beans in chili

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Speaker 1: is a woke thing, and how real chili only ever

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Speaker 1: had meat in it, and back in the day the

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Speaker 1: wolkester is trying to get us off of meat and

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Speaker 1: convince us that we needed to eat beans, got it

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Speaker 1: into chili and made all this different sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so this chili guy.

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Speaker 1: Started taking beans out of the chili, making the declaration

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Speaker 1: that I'm not this is not woke chili. And then

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Speaker 1: the dude had to go to the other dude and say,

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Speaker 1: I was just kidding, that was a joke. I was

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Speaker 1: that isn't true, and then he got very very angry.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that it worked is the thing. It

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Speaker 1: gets to your point of is it just mean that

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Speaker 1: we've become too obsessed with politics now that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: choose how you make you're chili or which car you

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Speaker 1: drive or whatever based on how it aligns with politics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If somebody convinced me that only progressive was like tomato

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Speaker 4: sauce on pizza and that grape jelly is really the

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Speaker 4: conservative way to go, I'm still eating the hole right, Okay,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't make me a transgender or or whatever woke

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Speaker 4: or you know, the sanctuary said, I'm for good pizza

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Speaker 4: and cars that run.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's just what's the matter with everybody calmed down? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: makes it difficult, makes it difficult. Oh, I know I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't mention. We're not a stock show. But this is,

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Speaker 2: in all fairness.

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Speaker 1: The way that Tesla could drop forty five percent since

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Speaker 1: December is he had a huge bump after the election.

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Speaker 1: Tesla stock shot through the roof after the election. He

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Speaker 1: was already high, but so that has been erased since

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Speaker 1: the election, and now it's.

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Speaker 2: Back to where it was already very very high before.

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Speaker 4: So ah, oh, an important asterisk right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair to mention, But that other stuff about how

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Speaker 1: popular it is among the republics and Democrats.

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Speaker 2: That's all true. We got a lot more in the

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Speaker 2: ways today.

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Speaker 7: Here there are battles, I mean intense battles taking place.

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Speaker 2: There's video of Russians.

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Speaker 7: Making their way through abandoned gas pipes to try and

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Speaker 7: get to the Ukrainians to fight of drone strikes on

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Speaker 7: Ukrainian tanks in that area of Kursk. Why is that

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Speaker 7: so intense? Why is it so important? Because Ukrainians hope

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Speaker 7: to hold that ground in order to negotiate a swap

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Speaker 7: of some kind of territory, territorial swap. I mean, that's

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Speaker 7: what we perceive the Ukrainians want to do. Now, if

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Speaker 7: they lose that ground and the Russians are clearly determined

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Speaker 7: that they will, then that obviously changes the negotiation. And

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Speaker 7: that's all important too. Going back to your question, because ultimately,

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Speaker 7: if you are the Kremlin and you think that you

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Speaker 7: are winning in Kursk, and you think that you will

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Speaker 7: get that ground back in the weeks, but maybe months ahead,

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Speaker 7: why would you agree to a seiz fin.

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Speaker 1: Now that's a very good question, Cure Simmons of NBC,

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Speaker 1: and we're I don't quite understand some of the strategy.

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Speaker 1: Ucia really went hard at Ukraine over the weekend. Probably

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Speaker 1: worth playing this back and forth with Trump and a reporter.

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Speaker 1: Do you, as a president, think that Vladimir Putin is

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Speaker 1: taking advantage of the US pause right now on intelligence

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Speaker 1: and military aid to Ukraine.

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Speaker 8: I actually think he's doing what anybody else would do.

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Speaker 2: I think he's.

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Speaker 8: I think he wants to get it stopped and settled.

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Speaker 8: And I think he's hitting him harder than he's been

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Speaker 8: hitting him, And I think probably anybody in that position

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Speaker 8: would be doing that right now. He wants to get

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Speaker 8: it ended, and I think Ukraine wants to get it ended.

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Speaker 8: But I don't see it's crazy. They're taking tremendous punishment.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand that position at all, nor do I

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Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense to me. Well, the Ukrainians resisted

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Speaker 4: the invasion of a hostile.

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Speaker 1: Neighbor, so they wouldn't die anybody else would have done

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Speaker 1: and live under the thumb of a dictator, and so

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Speaker 1: we stopped. Now today Trump has said, oh, we're going

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Speaker 1: to start the intelligence sharing up real soon again.

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Speaker 2: So maybe we are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but we stopped sharing intelligence, which I

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Speaker 1: guess is more important than practically anything else. You know,

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Speaker 1: several days back sharing intelligence with Ukraine, Russia attacks the

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Speaker 1: be Jesus out of him. Trump's asked about that, he says, well,

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Speaker 1: Putin's doing what anybody would do. He wants to end

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Speaker 1: this thing, so he's gonna kill as many innocent Ukrainians

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Speaker 1: as possible so they'll submit and he gets to take

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Speaker 1: as much of their country. I don't I don't get

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Speaker 1: this at all. I know a lot of you. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if a lot of you, but some of

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Speaker 1: you are really in favor of that. Some I don't

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Speaker 1: understand the philosophy in any way whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was kicking around social media over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Always a mistake, but and it was funny because there

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Speaker 4: was kind of like an overlap between the situation in

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Speaker 4: Syria right now where the new regime which is the

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Speaker 4: former al Kada guys are fighting tooth and nail and

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Speaker 4: all sorts of people are being killed in the streets

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Speaker 4: as a SOD loyalist or loyalists or fighting them. Then

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Speaker 4: allegedly some of the Syrian regime Islamist fundamentalist guys are

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Speaker 4: killing minorities and Christians and whatever, and then the Ukraine

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Speaker 4: there's this weird element of American I don't want to

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Speaker 4: call it conservatism. That's got this. The Jews are in charge.

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Speaker 4: Putin's a good guy. The US is a bad country.

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Speaker 4: We've fallen under the sway of the global something or other.

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Speaker 4: Then it gets back to the Jews, and getting any

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Speaker 4: sort of reliable information is getting harder and harder because

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Speaker 4: they've all got, you know, completely diametrically opposed spins of

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Speaker 4: what's happening and why it's happening, and just the conversation

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Speaker 4: on the conservative side of things has gotten very, very

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Speaker 4: weird in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: If at some point it becomes clear that we're really

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Speaker 1: sticking it to Putin behind the scenes, or about to

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Speaker 1: really stick it to Putin, and this was all part

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Speaker 1: of a strategy or whatever, I will openly admit that,

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Speaker 1: I promise, But right now, when ya ever gonna say

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Speaker 1: anything that even hints at Putin being a bad guy

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Speaker 1: or he did something he shouldn't have done that is

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Speaker 1: awful as opposed to well, Putin's doing what anybody would do.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to end this.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see a little more effort out

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Speaker 1: of Ukraine and trying to end this. So the guy

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Speaker 1: who's bombed a hotel over the weekend and killed people.

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Speaker 2: Is trying to end the war.

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Speaker 1: The side that is continuing to defend itself and doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to just give up is the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I read one analyst trying to explain how that was

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Speaker 4: five dimensional chess to bring Putin to the table or something.

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Speaker 4: But the idea that weakening Ukraine will bring Putin to

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Speaker 4: the table sooner is bizarre to me.

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Speaker 1: Right, I don't understand why, And so far there's been

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Speaker 1: no real word out of Putin's side that he Everybody

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Speaker 1: likes this idea, but Putin, Why would I if I'm Putin?

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Speaker 2: Stop now?

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Speaker 1: Okay, the United States is finally tired of this with

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Speaker 1: all their support.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 1: Now I got a chance to actually get what I

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Speaker 1: originally wanted the whole damn country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, this guy's point of view is that Putin is

641
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Speaker 4: so much weaker domestically speaking than people are talking about

642
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Speaker 4: that ending it would be great for him.

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Speaker 1: See there you go. That's the sort of thing. And

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Speaker 1: if that turns out to be true, I'm more than

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Speaker 1: willing to say Trump new things. We didn't know it

646
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Speaker 1: was three dimensional chess. Brilliant blah blah, blah, But I

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Speaker 1: don't know that that's the case. And again, you got

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Speaker 1: this whole giant idea of China, Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, Greenland, everything,

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Speaker 1: that big face of influence that people keep talking about.

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna be allowed to uh have a national

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Speaker 1: debate about that at some pointer?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that's gonna play out. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: don't know. Man.

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Speaker 1: If you miss a segment orn how or get the podcast,

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Speaker 2: But the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand coming up.

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Speaker 4: Keeping trans athletes out of sports is state sanctioned genocide,

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Speaker 4: according to the Lunatics.

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