WEBVTT - Is It Too Early For Xmas Decorations? (Yes)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, folks, shit is Saturday, November first, Saturday November first,

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<v Speaker 1>aka too damn early to be putting up Christmas decorations.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that, welcome everybody to this episode of Aby

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<v Speaker 1>and TJ Robe. Let's get the let's get the rule right.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say? Is the general rule? Everybody understands

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<v Speaker 1>when do Christmas decorations go up?

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<v Speaker 2>So my understanding always was after Thanksgiving? Yes, so yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you have your Thanksgiving meal and then the Friday after

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving you were given permission, so to speak, to go

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<v Speaker 2>get your Christmas tree, cut it down, whatever, and start

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<v Speaker 2>decorating for Christmas. But that has changed, dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's changed. Okay, that's the general rule. What has yours been?

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<v Speaker 1>Has that been yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? That's always okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't mess with, we don't touch, we don't deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>We don't talk about Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Until Thanksgiving is done. So like the day after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's November first, that we said, and we talk,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are people out there getting Christmas trees, There

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<v Speaker 1>are people out there putting up Christmas decorations. There are

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<v Speaker 1>people out there getting in the Christmas spirit, to which

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<v Speaker 1>you say, what to those people?

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<v Speaker 2>Too soon.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's too soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's enjoy the harvest. So yes, because already I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it started yesterday today I started hearing my first jingle

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<v Speaker 2>bell Christmas commercials and they're like, wait, no, I'm sorry. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally the day after Halloween I heard my first Christmas commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now, let me ask you what. Okay, you say

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<v Speaker 1>that now, But in the moment when you hear a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas song, when you hear it, come on, what did

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<v Speaker 1>it make you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Yes, that's the thing. I don't want to I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be too indulgent because wait, because it

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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely a sound that elicits joy and.

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<v Speaker 1>Elier because it feels.

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<v Speaker 2>Too soon, and then you feel like you're being taken advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Oh stop, stop, stop stopping.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like maybe this is like I'm falling prey

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<v Speaker 2>to the marketing bullshit of the season versus me actually

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<v Speaker 2>just loving this season. And right now, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>we are in harvest season. So give me your apple picking,

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<v Speaker 2>give me your pumpkin spice latte, give me your Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 2>corn whatever yet, harvest related anything, I'm all in.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you telling you you're not mad? Okay? I got

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<v Speaker 1>to back up on a few things here. You just

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<v Speaker 1>told me there's something that makes you actually feel good

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<v Speaker 1>and puts you in a good mood and makes you

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<v Speaker 1>feel joyous. Aka Christmas music, Christmas spirit, Christmas tunes. So

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't you accept and I'm getting at something because

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<v Speaker 1>that is a part of a lot of research that

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<v Speaker 1>has been done that people do get into a better

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<v Speaker 1>mood earlier. It's not just a Christmas spirit, but it

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<v Speaker 1>puts them in a better mood. Is actually good for

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<v Speaker 1>your health and mental health. Why wouldn't you want that earlier?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it needs to be authentic, and for it to

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<v Speaker 2>be authentic, it has to be at the right time

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. Don't fool me into thinking I'm already

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<v Speaker 2>in Christmas mode when I haven't even had Thanksgiving anticipation.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting there, We're building up to it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it's may fish.

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<v Speaker 2>If you rush it, it feels forced, and if it

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<v Speaker 2>feels it wors it doesn't feel authentic. And if it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel authentic, then it isn't real to me. Period.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it feels like you should drop your mic. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like that was a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>If I could have, I would have.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the argument. Now. Obviously we have here

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<v Speaker 1>and there seen some jingle bells. Right even before Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>came around, you see some things here or there. But

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<v Speaker 1>now things are really going to ramp up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's on now from here on out for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you think, Okay, So a big part of it

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<v Speaker 1>for you, that was the other thing. I just actually

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<v Speaker 1>dritted it down here. A big part of it for

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<v Speaker 1>you is not just a matter of being fooled into

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<v Speaker 1>this other season. You think. The earlier you start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Christmas, you are negating. You're throwing away a whole

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<v Speaker 1>season in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>You're making it less special. And there is is something

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<v Speaker 2>really authentic and cool about that autumnal Thanksgiving period that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have anything to do with Christmas. So we're like

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<v Speaker 2>just throwing that almost like I don't know, under the bed,

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<v Speaker 2>we're sweeping it under the rug, and we're not enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's some beauty in that, Like I just think

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<v Speaker 2>about even like from a like what you eat standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>what you drink standpoint, Like, yes, let's not bring pumpkin

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<v Speaker 2>spice lattes to Starbucks in August. Let's wait until September

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<v Speaker 2>and then let's let them ride until December and then

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<v Speaker 2>we can move over into the peppermint whatever. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, But like I think we try to like

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<v Speaker 2>jump ahead of what is because we're trying to I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like somehow get more enjoyment out of the anticipation.

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<v Speaker 2>But then somehow you negate the anticipation or the excitement

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<v Speaker 2>of what act is going to be, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>you forget to actually enjoy what is. I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>just jumping ahead too quickly in general period.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when historically for you, your family, when do

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<v Speaker 1>you get a Christmas tree?

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<v Speaker 2>So my mom, this is why I love a real one,

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<v Speaker 2>because my mom always didn't like the messiness and had

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<v Speaker 2>a fake one. But she brought it out and we

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<v Speaker 2>decorated it the weekend after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, I brought it out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my mom had it like perfectly packaged and stored artificial.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you grew up on an artificial tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't it make so much sense now?

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<v Speaker 1>Holy hell? I did not. Oh wow, I rarely find

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<v Speaker 1>a moment that I learned something about you. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that. Holy hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So it was brought out on the Friday or

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<v Speaker 2>the Saturday after Thanksgiving, and then it was already pre lit,

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<v Speaker 2>so then you would just have to just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of this kind of quasi ceremonial hanging

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<v Speaker 2>of the ornaments. Yes, that's what we did. How about

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<v Speaker 2>you that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think as a kid, it was always never before Thanksgiving. Ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we all went out and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing to do it the day after, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was never the anytime before. So I think those are

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional times. The majority of people say, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>should get it that even the day certainly not before Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>The majority say after Thanksgiving. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people traditionally do do it the day immediately after. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a fun next step in the tradition of the

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<v Speaker 2>calendar year.

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<v Speaker 1>And then some people wait and say the first of December,

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<v Speaker 1>like December rolls around the first day of that to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Then all of those I can understand. I

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<v Speaker 1>struggle if anybody here on November first is running out

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<v Speaker 1>and getting a Christmas tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are plenty of people who are doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>You think, so you known anybody who do say we just.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to pottery barn it was two weeks ago. How

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<v Speaker 2>big was the Christmas section when you first watch it

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<v Speaker 2>was the first thing you saw. It was everything. This

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<v Speaker 2>was two full weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was retail. Okay, they're getting ready for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you have you ever known anybody to get

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<v Speaker 1>a Christmas tree before? Thanks here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, after Halloween? Yes, there are. There is a contingency

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<v Speaker 2>of folks who get their Christmas trees after Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've known somebody, That's what I'm asking. Yeah, you've known.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody decorations from Halloween to Christmas. This weekend whenever the

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<v Speaker 2>next weekend is Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still friends with these people.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just really into the seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Why skip right? Why is what does the decoration look like?

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<v Speaker 1>How about this? Because we have pumpkins here, we write

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<v Speaker 1>we decorated kind of for Halloween ish, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>more autumn. What is the transition from Halloween? If you've

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<v Speaker 1>got ghosts and goblins and spiders and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and cobwebs around the house, what is the transition that

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<v Speaker 1>gets you to Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could have pumpkins and evergreens collected together.

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<v Speaker 2>That would look pretty, and you could merge the two

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<v Speaker 2>that way, just the.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought, oh boy, all right, well you might not folks,

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you are, you might not be alone. We there

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<v Speaker 1>is some polling, there are some surveys, There is some

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<v Speaker 1>research that has been done on this matter to help

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<v Speaker 1>us understand just how many folks out there think now

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<v Speaker 1>it's too early. Stay with us, folks will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how many of you are in that same boat. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back, all right, folks, welcome back. We continue

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<v Speaker 1>with our I guess debate. I guess we're on the

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<v Speaker 1>same page. You're not on the same page right about this?

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<v Speaker 1>When should you decorate for Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely only the day after Thanksgiving? Period? I will not

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<v Speaker 2>actually accept any conversation that says it should be sooner.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, so if I wanted to do so, you take issue.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have a hard time with that. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, babe, don't rush something that's so great, like,

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<v Speaker 2>let it be what it is, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So would you be surprised to hear that about it's

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<v Speaker 1>about fifty to fifty of people who think it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to decorate before Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to decorate before Thanksgiving?

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<v Speaker 2>What if your spouse disagrees with you. How does that

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<v Speaker 2>go over in a household?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in a healthy relationship, it should be fine because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think holiday decoration is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the thing they get you. And if it is, there's

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<v Speaker 1>another problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, you never argue about what you're actually a part.

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<v Speaker 2>It is about period. Okay, that's fair. It's how you

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<v Speaker 2>handle conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're surprised to hear if that many people are

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<v Speaker 1>actually interested? Are okay with decorating?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Before thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my? Yes? Before? Yes? Because Thanksgiving to me is

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as it should begin. A Christmas decorations, yes

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<v Speaker 2>or guess yes, Holli god Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'll be dawns. Well we have now, folks. A.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think robes a dilemma in this house necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the day after, like, I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>an event to actually go find a Christmas tree the

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<v Speaker 1>day after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're on board with that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in yes, same page.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wanted to do it ahead of time Christmas decorations.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I wanted to go get the Christmas tree

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time? Would you be opposed to doing so?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I think just yes, instinctively, yes, but if

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<v Speaker 2>it was really important to you, it would be something

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<v Speaker 2>I could can see it on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, then where are you on the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>it is more so than autumn or Thanksgiving decorations. Putting

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<v Speaker 1>up Christmas decorations actually is a mood booster. It actually

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<v Speaker 1>is something that helps people's energy, their mental health and

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<v Speaker 1>going about their day. It absolutely does, So why not

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<v Speaker 1>why shouldn't we do it as early as possible?

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny? Obviously, Yes, of course I agree it's

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<v Speaker 2>a mood booster, just like I'm somebody who loves planting

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<v Speaker 2>plants and flowers. Those are mood boosters when you start

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<v Speaker 2>like embracing the season. So I think when you fully

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<v Speaker 2>start bringing the inside out the outside in, you start

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<v Speaker 2>like recognizing. So yes, part of a Christmas tree is

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<v Speaker 2>bringing the outside in. When you are indoors and you

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<v Speaker 2>can't be outside as often, you can bring the nature

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<v Speaker 2>into you. So yes, I'm bracet but I think pushing

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<v Speaker 2>it or forcing it before it's necessary is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like almost a neediness that I don't love.

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<v Speaker 1>But why you say forcing? Why do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>use the word forcing?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't know. I just feel like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>season for things.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you can't wait to get to it, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not forcing it. It's just, oh my god, I am

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<v Speaker 1>anticipating this so much that I'm jumping in that weird way.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you lessen the impact of it or

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<v Speaker 2>the effectiveness of it, because you're diluting it by making

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<v Speaker 2>it last longer or bringing it sooner, or almost having

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<v Speaker 2>it meet your needs versus you being excited about its existence.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you knew every year on December first, this

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<v Speaker 2>is when the tree came out or whatever, you get

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<v Speaker 2>to anticipate it. But if you were like, I want

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<v Speaker 2>it now, I don't know. There's something about like having

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<v Speaker 2>milestones or moments from a seasonal standpoint almost fit your

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<v Speaker 2>needs versus you anticipating their existence. There might be some

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<v Speaker 2>self reflection necessary, that's all geez tute.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just maybe I just like Christmas lights. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go seek out a therapist because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an understanding of why I like Christmas lights

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<v Speaker 1>On November the second.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want a room with fairy lights and Christmas lights,

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<v Speaker 2>I am all ears like I do get the joy

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<v Speaker 2>they bring and there is some fun in having rooms

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<v Speaker 2>like that, Like we're about to actually have a room

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<v Speaker 2>with some neon lights, Like, I get it, Like there

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<v Speaker 2>is some fun having certain kinds of lights in rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I get how. I am such a believer in

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<v Speaker 2>your surroundings impacting your mood and your peace and your

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<v Speaker 2>joy and all of that. So, yeah, decorate. Decorating is fun. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>decorate for every season and like, lean into it wholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that we've done that for fall here in

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<v Speaker 2>our place, and we will do it when winter is

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<v Speaker 2>upon us. And yes, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Something I didn't think about until now is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe fall isn't somebody's season. Yeah, Like there's some

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<v Speaker 1>seasons that just starnt your jam, right, and maybe, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't my thing. I actually like that one, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna skip ahead. I didn't think about that

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<v Speaker 1>that as Actually you and I have talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>and that I think right, Fall is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Your favorite fall is my favorite?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, follows your favorite thing. You would hate to skip

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<v Speaker 1>over fall?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't want to, Like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>jump ahead to winter?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Okay, so that informs kind of your opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Head to the Christmas tree when you can still have pumpkins. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's you, right, that may very well be true

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<v Speaker 2>and okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Very much informed your thought process on this thing, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you take autumn away from me?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite season?

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<v Speaker 1>I need springing, Some are bad, some are for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Winter is a distant fourth, but I need spring in

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<v Speaker 1>summer for sure, and again fall autumn. What is the

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<v Speaker 1>word you love using? Autumn?

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<v Speaker 2>Autumnal? I love that word. It creates an ambiance that

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<v Speaker 2>is just so cozy and fun and I love it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's exactly what's upon us right now as we

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<v Speaker 2>depart from Halloween and head into Thanksgiving. And yes, Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>is not that far behind, but let's embrace let's embrace November,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's embrace Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. All right, y'all, So you think out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you want to decorate, knock yourselves out if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to wait until the after Thanksgiving like most

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<v Speaker 1>normal folks do that as well. But no matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>we always always appreciate you spending some time with us.

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<v Speaker 1>But for now I am T. J. Holmes On, behalf

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<v Speaker 1>us soon