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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, shit is Saturday, November first, Saturday November first,

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Speaker 1: aka too damn early to be putting up Christmas decorations.

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Speaker 1: And with that, welcome everybody to this episode of Aby

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Speaker 1: and TJ Robe. Let's get the let's get the rule right.

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Speaker 1: What would you say? Is the general rule? Everybody understands

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Speaker 1: when do Christmas decorations go up?

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Speaker 2: So my understanding always was after Thanksgiving? Yes, so yes,

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Speaker 2: you have your Thanksgiving meal and then the Friday after

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving you were given permission, so to speak, to go

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Speaker 2: get your Christmas tree, cut it down, whatever, and start

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Speaker 2: decorating for Christmas. But that has changed, dramatic.

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Speaker 1: It's changed. Okay, that's the general rule. What has yours been?

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Speaker 1: Has that been yours?

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Speaker 2: Oh? That's always okay.

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Speaker 1: We don't mess with, we don't touch, we don't deal with,

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Speaker 1: We don't talk about Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Until Thanksgiving is done. So like the day after Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's November first, that we said, and we talk,

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Speaker 1: and there are people out there getting Christmas trees, There

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Speaker 1: are people out there putting up Christmas decorations. There are

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Speaker 1: people out there getting in the Christmas spirit, to which

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Speaker 1: you say, what to those people?

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Speaker 2: Too soon.

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Speaker 1: You think it's too soon.

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Speaker 2: Let's enjoy the harvest. So yes, because already I believe

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Speaker 2: it started yesterday today I started hearing my first jingle

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Speaker 2: bell Christmas commercials and they're like, wait, no, I'm sorry. No.

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Speaker 2: Literally the day after Halloween I heard my first Christmas commercial.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, let me ask you what. Okay, you say

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Speaker 1: that now, But in the moment when you hear a

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Speaker 1: Christmas song, when you hear it, come on, what did

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Speaker 1: it make you feel?

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Speaker 2: Well? Yes, that's the thing. I don't want to I

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Speaker 2: don't want to be too indulgent because wait, because it

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Speaker 2: is absolutely a sound that elicits joy and.

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Speaker 1: Elier because it feels.

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Speaker 2: Too soon, and then you feel like you're being taken advantage.

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Speaker 1: Of Oh stop, stop, stop stopping.

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Speaker 2: I feel like maybe this is like I'm falling prey

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Speaker 2: to the marketing bullshit of the season versus me actually

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Speaker 2: just loving this season. And right now, I would say,

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Speaker 2: we are in harvest season. So give me your apple picking,

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Speaker 2: give me your pumpkin spice latte, give me your Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: corn whatever yet, harvest related anything, I'm all in.

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Speaker 1: Are you telling you you're not mad? Okay? I got

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Speaker 1: to back up on a few things here. You just

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Speaker 1: told me there's something that makes you actually feel good

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Speaker 1: feel joyous. Aka Christmas music, Christmas spirit, Christmas tunes. So

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you accept and I'm getting at something because

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Speaker 1: that is a part of a lot of research that

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Speaker 1: has been done that people do get into a better

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Speaker 1: mood earlier. It's not just a Christmas spirit, but it

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Speaker 1: puts them in a better mood. Is actually good for

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Speaker 1: your health and mental health. Why wouldn't you want that earlier?

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Speaker 2: Because it needs to be authentic, and for it to

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Speaker 2: be authentic, it has to be at the right time

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Speaker 2: of the year. Don't fool me into thinking I'm already

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Speaker 2: in Christmas mode when I haven't even had Thanksgiving anticipation.

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Speaker 1: We're getting there, We're building up to it. It's not

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Speaker 1: like it's may fish.

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Speaker 2: If you rush it, it feels forced, and if it

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Speaker 2: feels it wors it doesn't feel authentic. And if it

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel authentic, then it isn't real to me. Period.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it feels like you should drop your mic. It

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Speaker 1: felt like that was a moment.

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Speaker 2: If I could have, I would have.

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Speaker 1: But this is the argument. Now. Obviously we have here

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Speaker 1: and there seen some jingle bells. Right even before Halloween

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Speaker 1: now things are really going to ramp up.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's on now from here on out for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think, Okay, So a big part of it

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Speaker 1: for you, that was the other thing. I just actually

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Speaker 1: you is not just a matter of being fooled into

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Speaker 1: this other season. You think. The earlier you start talking

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Speaker 2: You're making it less special. And there is is something

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Speaker 2: just throwing that almost like I don't know, under the bed,

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Speaker 2: And there's some beauty in that, Like I just think

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Speaker 2: spice lattes to Starbucks in August. Let's wait until September

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Speaker 2: we can move over into the peppermint whatever. Like I

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Speaker 2: don't know, like somehow get more enjoyment out of the anticipation.

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Speaker 2: But then somehow you negate the anticipation or the excitement

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Speaker 2: just jumping ahead too quickly in general period.

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Speaker 1: I mean when historically for you, your family, when do

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Speaker 1: you get a Christmas tree?

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Speaker 2: So my mom, this is why I love a real one,

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Speaker 2: because my mom always didn't like the messiness and had

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Speaker 2: a fake one. But she brought it out and we

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Speaker 2: decorated it the weekend after Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Say, I brought it out.

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Speaker 2: That's my mom had it like perfectly packaged and stored artificial.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you grew up on an artificial tree.

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Speaker 2: I grew up.

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Speaker 1: I did that.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it make so much sense now?

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Speaker 1: Holy hell? I did not. Oh wow, I rarely find

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Speaker 1: a moment that I learned something about you. I did

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Speaker 1: not know that. Holy hell.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So it was brought out on the Friday or

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Speaker 2: the Saturday after Thanksgiving, and then it was already pre lit,

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Speaker 2: so then you would just have to just you know,

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Speaker 2: be a part of this kind of quasi ceremonial hanging

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Speaker 2: of the ornaments. Yes, that's what we did. How about

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Speaker 1: I think as a kid, it was always never before Thanksgiving. Ever, ever,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we all went out and it was

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Speaker 1: was never the anytime before. So I think those are

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Speaker 1: the traditional times. The majority of people say, yes, you

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Speaker 1: should get it that even the day certainly not before Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: The majority say after Thanksgiving. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people traditionally do do it the day immediately after. It's

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Speaker 2: Is a fun next step in the tradition of the

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Speaker 1: And then some people wait and say the first of December,

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Speaker 1: do it. Then all of those I can understand. I

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Speaker 1: struggle if anybody here on November first is running out

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Speaker 1: and getting a Christmas tree.

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Speaker 2: I think there are plenty of people who are doing that.

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Speaker 1: You think, so you known anybody who do say we just.

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Speaker 2: Went to pottery barn it was two weeks ago. How

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Speaker 2: big was the Christmas section when you first watch it

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was retail. Okay, they're getting ready for the season.

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Speaker 1: But do you have you ever known anybody to get

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Speaker 1: a Christmas tree before? Thanks here?

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Speaker 2: Yes, after Halloween? Yes, there are. There is a contingency

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Speaker 2: of folks who get their Christmas trees after Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Well, you've known somebody, That's what I'm asking. Yeah, you've known.

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Speaker 2: Somebody decorations from Halloween to Christmas. This weekend whenever the

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Speaker 2: next weekend is Yes.

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Speaker 1: You're still friends with these people.

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Speaker 2: They're just really into the seasons.

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Speaker 1: Why skip right? Why is what does the decoration look like?

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Speaker 1: How about this? Because we have pumpkins here, we write

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Speaker 1: we decorated kind of for Halloween ish, but it was

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Speaker 1: more autumn. What is the transition from Halloween? If you've

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Speaker 1: gets you to Christmas?

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Speaker 2: I guess you could have pumpkins and evergreens collected together.

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Speaker 2: That would look pretty, and you could merge the two

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Speaker 2: that way, just the.

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Speaker 1: Thought, oh boy, all right, well you might not folks,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are, you might not be alone. We there

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Speaker 1: is some polling, there are some surveys, There is some

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Speaker 1: research that has been done on this matter to help

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Speaker 1: us understand just how many folks out there think now

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Speaker 1: it's too early. Stay with us, folks will tell you

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Speaker 1: how many of you are in that same boat. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back, all right, folks, welcome back. We continue

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Speaker 1: with our I guess debate. I guess we're on the

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Speaker 1: same page. You're not on the same page right about this?

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Speaker 1: When should you decorate for Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely only the day after Thanksgiving? Period? I will not

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Speaker 2: actually accept any conversation that says it should be sooner.

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Speaker 1: Really, so if I wanted to do so, you take issue.

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Speaker 2: I would have a hard time with that. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: would say, babe, don't rush something that's so great, like,

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Speaker 1: So would you be surprised to hear that about it's

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Speaker 1: about fifty to fifty of people who think it's okay

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am surprised by that.

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Speaker 1: It's okay to decorate before Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: What if your spouse disagrees with you. How does that

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Speaker 1: Well, in a healthy relationship, it should be fine because

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Speaker 1: I don't think holiday decoration is not going to be

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Speaker 2: You're right, you never argue about what you're actually a part.

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Speaker 2: It is about period. Okay, that's fair. It's how you

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Speaker 1: But you're surprised to hear if that many people are

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Before thank you?

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Speaker 2: Oh my? Yes? Before? Yes? Because Thanksgiving to me is

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Speaker 2: as soon as it should begin. A Christmas decorations, yes

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Speaker 2: or guess yes, Holli god Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'll be dawns. Well we have now, folks. A.

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Speaker 1: I don't think robes a dilemma in this house necessarily.

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Speaker 1: I am the day after, like, I want to make

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Speaker 1: day after Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: I like that too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're on board with that.

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Speaker 2: We're in yes, same page.

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to do it ahead of time Christmas decorations.

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Speaker 1: What if I wanted to go get the Christmas tree

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Speaker 1: ahead of time? Would you be opposed to doing so?

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Speaker 2: I guess I think just yes, instinctively, yes, but if

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Speaker 2: it was really important to you, it would be something

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Speaker 2: I could can see it on.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, then where are you on the idea that

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Speaker 1: it is more so than autumn or Thanksgiving decorations. Putting

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Speaker 1: up Christmas decorations actually is a mood booster. It actually

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Speaker 1: is something that helps people's energy, their mental health and

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Speaker 1: going about their day. It absolutely does, So why not

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Speaker 1: why shouldn't we do it as early as possible?

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Speaker 2: That's so funny? Obviously, Yes, of course I agree it's

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Speaker 2: a mood booster, just like I'm somebody who loves planting

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Speaker 2: If you want a room with fairy lights and Christmas lights,

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