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Speaker 1: So you look at the game right now, what do

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Speaker 1: you think is missing with the big men edge.

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Speaker 2: It's no, it's no like like how you were saying.

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Speaker 3: It's no, like tough like I look at and Bed,

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Speaker 3: I feel like and Bee's supposed to put everybody in

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Speaker 3: the basket every time until they stop him. Every time.

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Speaker 3: I don't see nobody beating him. I just don't. I

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Speaker 3: just think it needs some more like aggression from the bigs,

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Speaker 3: like from the big from the big guys. But again,

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Speaker 3: the fans want to see more up and down entertainment

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Speaker 3: and shooting, so that that mess the game up.

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Speaker 1: You know what I like about Joker though, he shuts

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Speaker 1: both sides up. Yeah, Like I'll say, go in the post.

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Speaker 1: Can't got him in the post, and then he'll step

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Speaker 1: out and chance three. Yeah, and he putting up big numbers.

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Speaker 1: He's he's he's like the new he like the new

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Speaker 1: age him him. I don't know this year. Last year,

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Speaker 1: last year I thought it was shy.

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Speaker 4: Just by this, I have an official vote and so

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Speaker 4: this will get picked up.

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Speaker 5: I voted for Sha, I voted for s G A.

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Speaker 4: And the reason is is winning the West by that

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Speaker 4: many games and being the guy that's dropping twenty five

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Speaker 4: and thirty every single night has to mean something.

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Speaker 5: But you could you could go, you could go.

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Speaker 4: Your kitsch is incredible, and then you can go, But

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Speaker 4: how are you going to negate ship? Basically the last

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Speaker 4: three years, if I could vote for co m vps,

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Speaker 4: I would have.

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Speaker 5: But you can't.

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Speaker 4: You have to hold that they get the same amount

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Speaker 4: of first round picks, like Shack should have got Shack

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Speaker 4: should have gotten one when Nash got one like that

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Speaker 4: could that would have been a great co m VP.

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Speaker 3: Nashold woned, nashold have not won the MVP, to be respectful,

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Speaker 3: but no way, no way.

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Speaker 2: And when Kobe won, Nash wasn't supposed to.

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Speaker 5: Who won?

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Speaker 4: I think, I think what's incredible about your is what's

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Speaker 4: incredible about we could have if you look at this

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Speaker 4: had five in a row for him and b gets

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Speaker 4: one and let's say Shay gets one, and every single

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Speaker 4: year the issue was he played better than the year before.

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Speaker 4: So like this year he is top five in points, rebounds, assists, steals,

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Speaker 4: like yoga, what right?

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Speaker 5: Yes, he's top three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so then so then I think if he's top

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Speaker 3: three and I wanted to say to win all year

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Speaker 3: but now at the end of the season, looking at

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Speaker 3: looking at him getting what he got like it's making it.

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Speaker 3: It's the decision is difficult because his his numbers are

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Speaker 3: better than they were last year. For one, I know,

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Speaker 3: two he's dominating in more ways this year than he

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Speaker 3: was last, so he looked like he's in better.

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Speaker 4: Say the hard thing and Shack always talks about this

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Speaker 4: with MVP is sometimes I think guys with worst teammates

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Speaker 4: have an advantage, Like Oklahoma City is so good and

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Speaker 4: so deep that it's like kind of easier for Shay sometimes.

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Speaker 4: But like we can also admit that this Nuggets team

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Speaker 4: compared to when they made a run is.

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Speaker 5: Not good compared to what it was.

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Speaker 4: Like he doesn't have KCP, he doesn't have all these players,

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Speaker 4: he doesn't have Jeff Green, so he has to do

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Speaker 4: so much more so the stats look better, but like

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Speaker 4: he's the best player in the world.

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Speaker 2: Is the best player in the world right now.

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Speaker 3: I think by him growing up in the era that

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Speaker 3: he played against with us and mentally.

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Speaker 2: Changed the way he played a game.

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Speaker 3: Because after the era that we played in left he's dominating.

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Speaker 2: Is nobody to even.

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Speaker 4: And like you said about Embeid like Jokich will take

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Speaker 4: some threes, but he'll never settle when the game's on

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Speaker 4: the line.

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Speaker 2: Get in the basket.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm I'm with Joker, Like I think he's he's one.

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Speaker 5: Look, Lebron has four.

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Speaker 4: Lebron has four m vps in twenty one years. Like,

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Speaker 4: we don't give the best player the m v P

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Speaker 4: every year, It's just it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 5: Popovich could have won Coach of the Year every year

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Speaker 5: he didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: Bell.

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Speaker 5: Let's say, like it's we end up giving it to

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Speaker 5: someone that exceeded expectations.

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Speaker 4: And as you guys experienced his first pick in the draft,

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Speaker 4: it's harder when you're seen as the guy to exceed

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Speaker 4: expectations because you're the guy.

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Speaker 2: Did you feel like he was sapped for not getting

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Speaker 2: the MVP? Because I know I was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which year for you, Dwight?

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Speaker 2: The year that did d Rose one?

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: I think that My numbers and everything was crazy that year,

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Speaker 3: and and just because I was a big man, it

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Speaker 3: was like, NA, we're not gonna let him, We're not

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Speaker 3: gonna let him win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's try to do it. Did you hear what?

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Speaker 1: Did you hear what? Dominic said a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 1: He said, man, I knew the league was tripping because

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Speaker 1: Shock was going for the story entitled and David was

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Speaker 1: going for the scoring title. They told us to come

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Speaker 1: let Dave. I remember I remember that. Yeah, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: you've been going through the tame. But I always kept

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Speaker 1: it up here.

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Speaker 4: I said, okay, yeah, that year when you came in second,

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Speaker 4: you averaged twenty three, fourteen and twenty three.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about Dwight's years twenty three, fourteen and two

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Speaker 5: and a half.

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Speaker 3: It's no way, there's no way that's rue. But back then,

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Speaker 3: nobody averaged twenty points.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean twenty eight fifteen?

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Speaker 1: Man, when I tell you, I understand that, but nobody

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Speaker 1: it was only like ten guys who averaged twenty back

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Speaker 1: then seven points a quarter. That's three jump hops, free throw.

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Speaker 2: I just dismissing free throws. I was getting.

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Speaker 5: I mean Derek Rose.

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Speaker 4: So Dwight was averaging twenty three fourteen uh, one and

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Speaker 4: a half assists, one and a half steals, two and

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Speaker 4: a half blocks. Derek Rose was averaging twenty five four rebounds,

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Speaker 4: eight assists, one steal.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh man, see, hey, you.

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Speaker 5: Actually had a higher wind share.

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Speaker 2: We won, didn't we win Defensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 2: the wind Yes.

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Speaker 3: So the only reason he won is because he said

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Speaker 3: I think I can win beat the MVP, and they

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Speaker 3: wanted that storyline and that's how he got it. No.

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Speaker 1: Eight or say it on him. Yeah, but yep, that's

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Speaker 1: how they do us. That was my you know, we

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Speaker 5: Something crazy. So that was twenty eleven.

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Speaker 4: Lebron came in third and averaged twenty seven seven and seven,

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Speaker 4: and now for fourteen, fourteen years later, he's averaging twenty

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Speaker 4: four eight and eight.

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