1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Lisabooth, where we get to 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: the heart of the issues that matter to you. So 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: today we're joined by Jeremy Hunt. He's a West Point grad, 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: a former Army intelligence captain, and he's also the chairman 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: of Veterans on Duty. We'll dive into President Trump's plans 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: to broker a Russia Ukraine peace steel, also a nuclear 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: deal with Iran? Can he do it? Can he get 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: it done? Can he achieve peace? Jeremy also shares insights 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: on Ukraine's military pete. Heexas's role as Secretary of Defense, 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Those rising recruiting numbers. Why did he decide to go 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: to West Point? What does he make of those numbers? 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: We know that recruitment numbers are up under this administration. 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: We'll also talk. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: About how President Trump has changed the way we all 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: view the military and foreign policy. Plus we'll unpack Secretary 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: of State Mark or Rubio's visa crackdown on Chinese students. 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: It's shaking up US China relations. But doesn't it just 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: make sense? Isn't it just common sense? Stay tuned for 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: all of that and more with Jeremy Hunt. Well, Jeremy, 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: it's great to have you on the show first time on, 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: but we've done out Numbered together and actually ran into 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: you in the Delta lounge after that day. I was like, 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: I know him well, So I appreciate you making the time. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: So thank you for that. 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, thanks for having me. 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: I've been looking forward to joining your shows. 27 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm happy to join and talk talk about some things. 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: A little bit and maybe going a little bit more 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: depth today and I'm excited. 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will not be in your ear telling you 31 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: that we've got to go to a commercial break, so 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: I obviously we both love TV, but you know you've 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: got those commercial breaks, so all right, Well, so I wanted. 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: To talk to you. 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's a lot going on in the world, 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: and Joe Biden left everything a complete mess, so there's 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: a lot of instability that President Trump's trying to address. 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: He's also just trying to strike out of deals. I mean, 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: he's been talking about trying to facilitate a deal between 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine and some sort of ceasefire and whatever 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: that will look like. He's also trying to negotiate with 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Iran and come up with some sort of new nuclear deal. Uh, 43 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, looking at both of those, do you do 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: you think you'll get it done. 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: Well. 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: You know, that's one of the things that a lot 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: of these kind of talks, it's always, you know, a 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 3: little unpredictable when you're dealing with people like Putin, who 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: you know, did start this war, someone who is you 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: know constantly, as President Trump said, you know he is 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: he is not someone you can you're not someone who 52 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: can trust. He's someone who you know, in the middle 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: of these talks, you know, unleash is one of the 54 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: worst air raids on Kiev that we've seen just since 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: the beginning of this war. So, you know, it's a 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: lot of times it is a little unpredictable. I think 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: one thing we know about President Trump is that, you know, 58 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: he wants peace, he wants to he wants to end 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: the bloodshed, and his his kind of instinctive nature is 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: is very you know, someone who wants to be a 61 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: peacemaker around the world. And I think those instincts are 62 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: really good, and I think that's why we're going to 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: get different results than we did under President Biden, who was, 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: as as you mentioned, was a total disaster on all 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: these issues, and all and many and all these wars 66 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: started under his watch. I think when it comes to 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: Russia and Ukraine, the main thing is going to be 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: a lot of times, you know, Putin sometimes he does 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: not respond until he feels the pressure he feels, you know, 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: when we start bringing on additional uh uh kind of 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: sanctions upon upon his regime, When he starts feeling that 72 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: economic tightness of everything, when he is when the rest 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: of the world community shuts him out, that's when, you know, 74 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: you start to see different results. But unfortunately, a lot 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: of times when it's you know, just had a conversation 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: with him and talking to him, you know, he will 77 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: say one thing and then you know, as he's talking 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: to you about peace, he is you know, uh, killing 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: more and more. 80 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: Ukrainian soldiers and literally kidnapping. 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: I mean, the reports that have come out of Ukraine 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: are horrendous about some of the war crimes that Putin 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: and his and his and his armed forces have been 84 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: committing against the Ukrainian people. 85 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: And you know, I've been there. 86 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 3: I was actually when I was an officer in the army, 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: as you know, I was a former Army intelligence captain, 88 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: and when I was in Ukraine, I was there for 89 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: about six months and we were training the Ukrainian Armed Forces. 90 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: This was back in twenty sixteen, and so Putin had 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: already invaded Crimea, but he was you know, back then, 92 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: we were training for this hypothetical situation in which he 93 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: might invade Ukraine. 94 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: And you know, what was you know, just kind of 95 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: this what was then just kind of a. 96 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: What could be, you know, ended up being what happened obviously, 97 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 3: And we were there training the Ukrainian armed forces, especially 98 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: their intel systems, intel officers on NATO doctrine and so 99 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: it was a great it was a great mission. And 100 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: I saw that, you know, the many people, they have 101 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: a will to fight. They they are not gonna, you know, 102 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: give over their country. Many people thought that, you know, 103 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: Putin would just roll right through Ukraine. I mean many 104 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: are not self included. 105 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: We didn't. 106 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: We had, you know, very much concern about Ukraine's ability 107 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 3: to defend themselves. But they've done, uh, they've had definitely 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: a valiant effort. And so I think now it's time 109 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: to get to peace. And I think you're seeing President 110 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: Trump try to deliver. 111 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: On that, yeah, because I mean my mentality has always 112 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: been that, you know, obviously, you know, Russia was in 113 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: the wrong to invade Ukraine. I mean that's just a given. Uh. 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: But you know that being said, you know, I don't 115 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: think Ukraine can win this thing on their own, and 116 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: so we've already, you know, sent an endless bucket of 117 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: cash to Ukraine. And it seems that absent of US 118 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and other countries putting boots on the ground and demonstrating 119 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: a willingness to fight this war alongside them, like, they 120 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: can't win it on their own, and so inevitably lends 121 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Ski is probably going to have. 122 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: To seed some territory. 123 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously Russia has already invaded Crimean has had 124 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: that territory for quite some time, as you pointed out. 125 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: And then there's also like the Donbass region that Russia 126 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: has invaded and it has occupied since the beginning of 127 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: that invasion under Biden, you know, so it doesn't see 128 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: him in terms of militarily, this war is winnable for 129 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: Ukraine outside of some sort of World War type scenario. 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Is that an accurate assessment or I mean I. 131 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: Think I think that first off, I mean there's no 132 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: appetite too. 133 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: I mean American troops are not put in boots on 134 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: the ground at all, And I think that you know, 135 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: as you said, we've sent you know, tons of aid 136 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: over to Ukraine. I do think that President Biden sent 137 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 3: uh you know, lethal lethal aid way too late, and 138 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: we saw this build up on their border along you know, 139 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: long before h and there's a lot of people who 140 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: say that if he had moved quicker to give Ukraine 141 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: the resources they need, that this would not have started 142 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: in the first place. But that said that, I mean, 143 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: you know, one thing that we've seen with President Trump 144 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 3: is that a lot of NATO is stepping up their commitments. 145 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: And that's something that we have not seen in a 146 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: long time. 147 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if I mean, if they've. 148 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: Ever come in increased their military spending at this level 149 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: this rate in recent history. And so that is a 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: testament to President Trump, you know, increasing the putting the 151 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: putting the pressure on and saying, look, we want to 152 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: get this war to an end. And you know, Americans, 153 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: we we were you know, we did our part to support, 154 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: but we need NATO and Eastern and Europe to to 155 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: do their part too. And so I think, you know, 156 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: with all that support, you know, Ukraine is going to 157 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: as I said, they're gonna they're fighting for their homeland. 158 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: So they're going to continue, you know, giving it all 159 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: they can. I think that what you're going to see 160 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: is is the and and hopefully the appetite in Russia 161 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: and at home for this war will continue to wane 162 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: and and then eventually, you know, we could see this 163 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: come to an end. 164 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: But I think that's what everybody is hoping for at 165 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: this point. 166 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it just seems sort of inevitable at this 167 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: point that Zalenzi's going to have to see some territory 168 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: to Russia. I mean, there doesn't seem like they're going 169 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: to be able to expel them militarily, h you know, 170 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: completely from their country. And if you're Russia, I highly 171 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: doubt that Putin's going to get out unless he's you know, 172 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: getting something from it, like getting something from that exit. 173 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's no doubt going to try to get, you know, 174 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: something out of this. He's he's looking for an off 175 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: ramp to be able to say that, you know, this 176 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: war was a success, but it was all worthwhile. You know, 177 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: He's looking for some type of way to to try 178 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: to claim victory here. And so you know, I am 179 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: not a total experts. I have no idea how this 180 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: is going to, you know, ultimately end. And I don't 181 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: think anyone has a crystal ball to see how this 182 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 3: is all going to play out. But I think that 183 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: we are on I think we're on the right track 184 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: with you know, a lot of President Trump's you know 185 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: comments saying, look, we're we're here to make peace, and 186 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: and he wants to make sure that there's that both 187 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: sides are willing to do what it takes to get 188 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: to the end. And so I think that's a positive development. 189 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: We've got more with Jeremy. But first, folks, we're saying 190 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: something truly disturbing. Anti Semitism is on the rise all 191 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: around the world, and sadly right here in America. 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That's eight 209 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: eight eight four eight eight four three two five, Or 210 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: go to IDJ dot org. Every dollar helps. Don't wait 211 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: be the difference is it ij dot org? Or call 212 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,239 Speaker 1: eight eight eight four a eight IFCJ. 213 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: Now President Trump's just completely reshaped. 214 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: I think how the Republican Party views foreign policy, like 215 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: even being in the Middle East recently, just you know, 216 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: the the what was it? The The future of the 217 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: Middle East is commerce, not chaos, Like even sort of 218 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: using his business acumen to try to forge those relationships 219 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: through business development, which is also sort of like a 220 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: mutually a mutual security guarantee as well like what he 221 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: was trying to do in Ukraine with the mining as well. 222 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: And also just you know, peace through strength, right that 223 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: maybe we don't need to deploy our troops to still 224 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: keep a world order and to still keep that respect 225 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: and to still you know, be respected. Has he changed 226 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, you just mentioned you know you've served. Has 227 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: he changed your perspective on how we engage troops and 228 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: how we should use our military? And I know he's changed mind, 229 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: but I also didn't serve, So just interested in your opinion. 230 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that I mean, peace to strength. 231 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: I think he is. 232 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: It's obviously something that that slogan that started even in 233 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: the Reagan era, and for many of us, this isn't 234 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: something that we've been you know, talking about for so 235 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: long and hoping for that we would have a president 236 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: like President Trump who would really actually you know, put 237 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: teeth to that and uh. And so that's why, you know, 238 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: I think that a lot of the actions that we're 239 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: seeing and taken right now with President Trump saying look, 240 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: you know, I'll give you a perfect example, and you 241 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: mentioned in the Middle East, you know, the hoo Thi's 242 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: were attacking American troops, they were attacking uh really vital 243 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: shipping lanes. 244 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: Uh in, uh in in that part of the world. 245 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: And one of the issues that we're seeing is that 246 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 3: even our prices on different products here at home were 247 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: we are taking a hit because we can't get products, 248 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: you know, through those through those key shipping routes. And 249 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: so the hoo Thies were causing all sorts of issues 250 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: for the United States, for Europe. 251 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: And here we had President Trump come in and and say, look, actually. 252 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: We're not doing this anymore, and you know, destroyed the 253 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: hoo thieas and and we're seeing uh you know a lot. 254 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: Of positive results at the end of that. So you know, 255 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: he means action. 256 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: And I think that when we invest in our military, 257 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: give them the support they need. I love seeing the 258 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: pay raises to the troops that are included uh in 259 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: this this one big beautiful bill as it's called, that 260 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: will hopefully be passed at the Senate, hopefully be. 261 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: Passed here soon. 262 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: But you know that's those are the kind of things 263 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: that takes I think with the build up our military, 264 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: invest in our military, uh so that we can keep 265 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: apace with the threat I mean, and the threat is 266 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: as serious we have China Russia, Iran, North Korea, all 267 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: major powers that are are basically coming together. We're seeing 268 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: they're kind of coalescing, working together to sow chaos and 269 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 3: to and to really uh defeat the West in the 270 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: United States. And so it's I think it's important now 271 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: more than ever if you want to have peacely strengths 272 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 3: to make sure that we are strengthening our military or 273 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 3: investing in the and all the different AI and technology 274 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: and the drone capabilities, we've got to look at cyber space. 275 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's on so many different domains. Space 276 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: is a major one. If you want our troops to 277 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: have GPS signal when they're deployed, you know at anywhere 278 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: in the world that GPS signal is often very weak 279 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: and can be uh, you know, you can get hacked. 280 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just so many different levels of investment 281 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: that we need, and so that's I think what's ultimately 282 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: going to keep our enemies at bay is when we 283 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: show that we have the capability to fight. And one 284 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: thing one of my favorite moments with us, one of 285 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: my favorite moments with President Trump was the unleastion the 286 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: F forty seven, you know, the new airframe that he's 287 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: releasing and that we're going to be producing here United States. 288 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: Look that those are the kind of actions that I 289 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: think our enemies are taking notes of. And so I 290 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: think him and Secretary Hegseth are doing a great job 291 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: in terms of showing the world to look, the United 292 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: States is not playing around. You might have thought that 293 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: the last four years under Biden that you know, we were, 294 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: you know, just going to roll over and take whatever 295 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: happens around the world. 296 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: Is will just accept the status quo. But that that 297 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: is over with President Trump in office. 298 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: But I also think in order to be able to 299 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: do that, you know, these other nations need to know 300 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: that we're serious and that you know, you can't have 301 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: peace or strength unless you have the strength, right And 302 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: so like under Biden when he made these threads, like 303 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: no one believed them obviously as evidence by you know, 304 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: putin doing whatever you ones and Iran via Hamas doing 305 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: whatever it wanted, or like even Obama when you draw 306 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: all the red lines with Syria and Asad was like, okay, whatever, 307 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like you have to 308 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: like it has to be believable. And like with Trump, 309 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: when you know, when you start out of the gate 310 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, dropping the mother Ball bombs and you know, 311 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: sending the Tomawk missiles to Syria, or like later in 312 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: his presidency taking out cast some solemney Like these guys, 313 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: like these bad actors know that like he's not effing 314 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: around right, Like it's you know when he when he 315 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: makes threats like he will do it. 316 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You know. 317 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: They they know that he is not someone who mince 318 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: his words and that when he says something, he means it, 319 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: and that is so important for America's credibility around the globe. 320 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: No, we're saying, these military recruitment numbers have gone up 321 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: under the Trump administration, which is great. You're a West 322 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Point guy, so you signed up to serve. Why did 323 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: you sign up to serve? And then also, you know, 324 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: why do you think those numbers are up? And how 325 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: significant is that? 326 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's very significant. I'll start with with my 327 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: own story. I you know, I didn't grow up in 328 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: in a military family so to speak. My grandparents served, 329 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: but they passed away when I was really young, so 330 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: I didn't really get a chance to talk to them 331 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: about it. But you know, in my in the house 332 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: that I grew up my parents they told me that 333 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: the highest honor is to serve God and serve your country. 334 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 3: And those are the things that I always took to heart. 335 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: And so I knew when I was in high school 336 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: and I joined j R. O t C the high 337 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: school Junior OTC program, and you know, walking around our 338 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: high school in uniforms of it. It was it was 339 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: it was something that you know, my friends made fun 340 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: of me for a little while until they realized I 341 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: was really serious about this. And I ended up, you know, 342 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: deciding I wanted to go to West Point and was 343 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: thankful and I had people that worked with me and 344 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: got in shape and I was went on to West 345 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: Point and I was there for four years, graduated in 346 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, UH, and I commissioned as an Army Intelligence Captain, 347 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: well coachy Intelligence tenant and then rose to the rank 348 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: of captain and UH. And you know, during that time, 349 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: it was I wanted to first I knew that, you know, 350 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: this country has given us. 351 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: So many amazing privileges of freedom. 352 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: I mean, just the freedom to be on this podcast 353 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: with you, to say what we think and to be 354 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: able to talk and UH, to talk about our government 355 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: and not be you know, in fear of of of 356 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 3: you know, being you know, taken off the air, thrown 357 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: in jail. I mean, we take those freedoms for granted, 358 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: but around the world that is just not the case. 359 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 3: And I know, we know that freedom is not free there. 360 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 3: We just you know, had Memorial Day, and obviously there 361 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: are many people that that shed much blood for us 362 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: to enjoy these freedoms. And so for me, I wanted 363 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: to give back and serve my country, and it was 364 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: it was really the privilege of a lifetime to do that. 365 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: And and with the recruitment numbers, you know, as you 366 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: pointed out the numbers under under President Biden, the numbers 367 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: had so low. Every single branch was struggling with recruitment. 368 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 3: And if you ask the Biden administration at the time, 369 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: they would just say, oh, well, it's just you know, 370 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: the environment unemployment rate is a little lower right now, 371 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: so therefore people aren't you know, coming in military as much. 372 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: It's just they had all these excuses, you know, the pool, 373 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 3: I mean, and some of those you know, are factors perhaps, 374 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: but it wasn't a total answer for how we for 375 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: the first time since the advent of the all volunteer 376 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: force in the seventies, uh, since we got rid of 377 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: the draft. Basically, you know, we had all volunteer force. 378 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: Why recrupment numbers were at an all time low since 379 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: the advent of. 380 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: The volunteer force, I mean decades low. And so. 381 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: Really what we know is that a lot of folks 382 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: at home when they're seeing you know, commercials for their 383 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: military that are all about a social agenda and all 384 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: about you know, you can experiment in any kind of 385 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: you know, social agenda you want in the military. 386 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: We will do your surgery if you want to. You know, 387 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 2: if you're a transgender, we'll pay for your surgery. We'll 388 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: do all this, you. 389 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 3: Know, we we are also many people at home were 390 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: told that the military is somehow racist. You know, if 391 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: you recall on one of the first things that the 392 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: Biden administration did Lloyd Austin, a Secretary of Defense, one 393 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: of the first things he did was do us a 394 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: force wide stand down to root out quote unquote white 395 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: supremacy and root out extremism in the ranks. And of 396 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: course they found nothing because it was a made up story. 397 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: It was all for politics, all for you know, really 398 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: just trying to virtue signal, I guess for the left, 399 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: I mean. 400 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: It was it was a total mess. 401 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: And that's what I think is the real reason why 402 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 3: we saw those numbers drop so low, is that who 403 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: wants to join the military to be a part of 404 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: a social experiment. You want to join the military to 405 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: kill bad guys. And so now we're seeing the total 406 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: shift under President Trump and Secretary Except if you even 407 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 3: look at the commercial the ads you see now they're 408 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: all about you know, our soldiers, men and women, you know, 409 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: killing bad guys. You see our fighter jugey, you see 410 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: the whole force of the American military, and it's inspiring. 411 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: And I think that's why we're seeing a lot of 412 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: the numbers bounce back. And so now a lot of 413 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: those recruiting lolls have become a recruiting boom and so 414 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: and that all that is under this this administration, so 415 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: that it's it's very exciting. Many of us have been 416 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: talking about this. I testified before the House Oversight Committee 417 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 3: about this crisis. 418 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 2: During the Biden administration. 419 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 3: I was on the National Independent Panel from Military Service 420 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: and Readiness that then Congressman Mike Waltson appointed me to 421 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: and and and you know So we've been talking about 422 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: this for a long time. As you know, I'm part 423 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: of a group called Veterans on Duty. I'm chairman of 424 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: the Board of Veterans on Duty, and we're a five 425 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: O one C four policy advocacy organization made up of 426 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 3: veterans who cared deeply about our military and about a 427 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: lot of these issues. And this recruitment crisis was something 428 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: that we talked about quite a bit, and so now 429 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: that we're finally seeing positive results, it is very heartening 430 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 3: for many of us who have been on the front 431 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: lines of this effort. 432 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: And what were your. 433 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: Takeaways in the testimony, because you know, my understanding is 434 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: it was getting so bad that like if we had 435 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: another major war, like we might not have enough people, 436 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like we're not prepared 437 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: in terms of manpower. So you know, what kind of 438 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: were your takeaways or that you had learned in the 439 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: testimony that that people should know that we're concerning Oh. 440 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 3: Man, I mean, and it's worse back in like you know, 441 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, the the I'll give 442 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: you an example, we were if you look at the army, 443 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: just just the army and again, this was this was 444 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: the crisis spread to all the branches. But I'll just 445 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: zoom in on the Army, my branch for a second. 446 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: If you look at the Army, the numbers were so low, 447 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: we were at thousands of soldiers short. It would be 448 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: the equivalent of missing an entire division. So I was 449 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: I was third Infantry Division. I was stationed at Fort 450 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: Stewart and near Savannah, Georgia, and that entire it would 451 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: be like the equivalent of all of Third i D 452 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: missing in action if we were to go into a major, uh, 453 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: you know, major conflict. 454 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: That is, it was a serious crisis. 455 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: And of course, you know, the you know, the legacy 456 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: media didn't want to talk about it, and you know, 457 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: they made it sound like, you know, Republicans are just 458 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: making up this crisis that we are just you know, 459 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: looking for reasons to criticize Biden. 460 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: But as we know, it's in the cover up a 461 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: lot of things. 462 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: And yeah, it was actually a very serious crisis that, 463 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: thank god, we averted. And and now with President Trumpet office, 464 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: we're seeing again all those numbers increasing and I think 465 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: I think that's a trajectory that's going to continue because 466 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: the Pentagon led by Secretary except is going. 467 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: Is returning to lethality. That is the key that the 468 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: purpose of the military is to deter fight and win 469 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: our nation's wars. That's it. There's no other agenda. 470 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 3: It's not about social experimentation, it's not about be all 471 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 3: you can be, you know in terms of you know, 472 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: diversity is our strength. It's about it's all about the 473 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: term uh fighting and winning our nations wars. And so 474 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: that is the key. I think that we're going to 475 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: see it's gonna win, it's gonna it's really going to 476 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: strengthen our military and ultimately to our adversaries going forward. 477 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: Do you think he's doing a good job, Pete Hedges 478 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: have secretary funds. 479 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: I do. I do. 480 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: He is someone who he's been, you know, very much 481 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: focused on returning to lethality. 482 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: He's made sure. 483 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: We've gotten rid of all the distractions, all the things 484 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: that you know are just you know, when when I 485 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: was in the military, you'd have all these ridiculous trainings 486 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: and you've got you know, diversity training, You've got all 487 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 3: these different trainings on all these on everything except for 488 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: the core mission. And so we would run out of 489 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: time when actually training our core, our core tasks and 490 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: our military tasks and drills, because we were so focused 491 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: on other types of you know, social campaigns that the 492 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 3: you know, the President Biden and others you know, had 493 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: had when I was in it was President Obama for 494 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: most of that time, but and then President Trumpet towards 495 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: the end. But you know, it was all about you know, 496 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: these different you know, experimenting, you know, and so that 497 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. 498 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: It was distracting. 499 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: And I think we're seeing with Secretary of Headseth is 500 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: returning to our core fundamentals and so and then I 501 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 3: think also we're seeing we're getting rid of a lot 502 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: of the civilian bloat that's been kind of plaguing the 503 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: military the Pentagon for many years. We have so I mean, 504 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: just thousands upon thousands, tens of thousands of DA's civilians 505 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: and contractors and folks who you know, many of them 506 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: are vital to our mission and were thankful for them, 507 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: but a. 508 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: Lot of them were not. 509 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: And so we're seeing a lot of kind of relooking 510 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: at how we're spending our funds, how we're spending resources, 511 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: who you know. 512 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: Needs, what we have redundancies. 513 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: We can get rid of those he's making the Department 514 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: offense much more efficient, and that's really important, and it 515 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: starts with the top down. And he's also enabling commanders 516 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: to do what they need to do to train their 517 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 3: soldiers and to be prepared to deploy at a moment's notice. 518 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: Before we go. 519 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: Obviously, there was a big, big focus on legal immigration 520 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: under the by administration, one of the top reasons President 521 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: Trump won. But now we sort of have this broader 522 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: focus on legal immigration, particularly visas and the revoking of 523 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, student visas and various visas. Secondary Mark or 524 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: Rubio announced recently that we're going to aggressively revoke visas 525 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: for Chinese students. 526 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't that just make sense? 527 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: Like why would we we know that there's been issues 528 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: with like Chinese spies here in America, and by the way, 529 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: like Russian spies we've had before, So like, what wouldn't 530 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: we be very judicious about the individuals we let into 531 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: this country from enemy nations or even individuals from countries 532 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: and areas of the world that have hostile opinions and 533 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: feelings towards America. Like that just to me seems like 534 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: common sense. 535 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: It is common sense, and I applaud Secretary of Rubio 536 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: with this decision. 537 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: It's been an issue that we've even at veterans on duty. 538 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: We talked about this before, as there are a lot 539 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 3: of students that are coming here on these Chinese visas 540 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: who are literally many of them spying on behalf of 541 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: the Chinese government. We saw that at different schools, even 542 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: in places you wouldn't even suspect, and Whichita came against us, 543 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 3: of all places where my wife's family is from. At 544 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 3: certain colleges there there was evidence of literally Chinese students 545 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: there who are agents on behalf of the CCP. 546 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 2: And so now the left is going to try. 547 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: To make this all about, oh, we're discriminating against you know, 548 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: the Chinese people and all this stuff. Now we're dealing 549 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: with specifically Chinese citizens and especially those who have ties 550 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 3: to the CCP, who we are just allowing to work 551 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: in our work in our universities, sprayed spread a lot 552 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: of their you know, a lot of the CCP's talking points, 553 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: and also collect information. And so I think it's a 554 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: small choice, but remember, and it's not just this. China 555 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: is moving on all fronts against our country. I'll give 556 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: you a couple more examples right now, there are Chinese 557 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: state sponsored so sponsored by the CCP that are these 558 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: hackers that are literally able to access our own home 559 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: Wi Fi routers. There's a Wi Fi router made by 560 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: a company. By the way, all this is is public. 561 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: You can see this on it's in several reports about 562 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: The Wall Street Journal had an article about this, there 563 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: was a congressional hearing about it. There's a company called 564 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: tp Link that makes these Wi Fi rasuters and they 565 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: are a Chinese founded company. 566 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: Most of their operations are still in China. Uh they are. 567 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 3: And what they are doing is they have these WiFi routers. 568 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: So you go and you buy a router and you 569 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 3: put in your home. You know nothing of it, and 570 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: what they're able to do is to hack into your router. 571 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: And of course it's not your home that they want. 572 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 3: Their target is the United States infrastructure, transportation infrastructure. But 573 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: what they're able to do is to shield themselves as 574 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 3: if they and it will appear as just a normal 575 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: American citizen home router, but actually they're using that to 576 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: preposition themselves to attack American infrastructure, our transportation. 577 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 2: Sector, our water sector, our telecommunications, you name it. 578 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: So there are so many attacks on the United States 579 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: that we aren't even seeing or paying attention to. So 580 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: we're seeing it with a lot of Chinese students in 581 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: the universities. We're seeing it in our in our infrastructure, 582 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: with these routers with this teepe link, which, by the way, 583 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: teep a link. If you go to Amazon, teepe link 584 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: is often one of the first routers you see that 585 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: are recommended that they have it. They're selling this the 586 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: manufacturing get for cheap. And and by the way, reports 587 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 3: are saying the Department of Justice. Trump's Department of Justice 588 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 3: is now investigating this as well as the Department of 589 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: Commerce because they're selling these routers for treat for cheap 590 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: to make sure they take over the market, so that 591 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: make sure that all the routers in that states are 592 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: controlled by a Chinese commuist party. I mean, it's it's 593 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: it's their it's their play. And then we saw it, 594 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: you know, the spy base. Now they have spy bases 595 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: ninety miles off the coast of Florida and in Cuba. 596 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: They have seen them expand that of course everybody remembers 597 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: the Chinese spy balloons. I mean, it is it's on 598 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: all fronts agriculture. They are buying up American farm land, 599 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: especially land that is near military bases. They want to 600 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: control our food security here in the United States. They've 601 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: actually now they want to control a lot of the 602 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: inputs that our farmers rely on to grow their crops. 603 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: One of the products they use is it's called glyc estate. 604 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: They use it to attack weeds. It's a weed killer 605 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: and it's and they use it at the major level. 606 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: Commercial farmers use that to protect their crops. Well, now 607 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: China wants to take over that entire industry, and now 608 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: we've seen them do that, and now they're the majority 609 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: of those key products, and our farmers need to grow 610 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: our prop to grow crops for us here in the 611 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: United States. Again controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. So 612 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: it's it is a very dangerous time we're in and 613 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm so thankful that Secretary Rubio was taking action. We're 614 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: seeing and we're seeing it all over government, I mean, 615 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: Secretary of Homeland Security is looking at it. I mean, 616 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: this is finally people are waking up to this and 617 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: it's a significant threat and I think we're finally taking 618 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 3: steps in. 619 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: The right direction. Yeah. 620 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And then last thing before we go, What can 621 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: you tell us about veterans on duty? 622 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we are as I mentioned, we're five on 623 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: one C four policy advocacy organization made up of veterans 624 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: around the country. Most of us are veterans of the 625 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: global war and terrorism, but we have veterans of all 626 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: different eras as well, and many of us we care 627 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: about these issues about having a strong national security, having 628 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: a strong border, making sure our military has the fun 629 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: that they need to fight our nation's wars and the 630 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: resources they need to do that. We make sure that 631 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: we are not as I've talked about doing running experiments 632 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: with our military, but actually focusing on lethality and and 633 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: so we care a lot about these issues and making 634 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: sure that we are our America is strong, stronger than ever, 635 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: and that is something we want. As we always say, 636 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: you know, we didn't end our service when we took 637 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: off our uniform for us. Our service continues and we 638 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: do that through through advocacy and advocating for policies that 639 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: we will will keep America safe. 640 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Strong and free. 641 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hunt, appreciate you making the time great to patch 642 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: up and hope to see you soon. 643 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks for having me Lisa, that was Jeremy Hunt. 644 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate him for making the time for the show. 645 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, 646 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week until next time.