WEBVTT - The Origin of the iPhone: Part One

0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Technology with tech Stuff from work dot com. Hey there,

0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I am your host, Jonathan Strickland,

0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:22.520
<v Speaker 1>senior writer for how stuff works dot com, the podcasting

0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:28.120
<v Speaker 1>company extraordinaire. We're all grown up, y'all. I don't know

0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.600
<v Speaker 1>if you saw the news, but yeah, how stuff Works

0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.960
<v Speaker 1>has spun off. It is a podcasting company, and of

0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.640
<v Speaker 1>course tech Stuff being one of the first of the

0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.720
<v Speaker 1>podcasts to UH to launch way back in the day,

0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.519
<v Speaker 1>one of the first three major podcasts out of How

0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:46.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff Works. I thought today we could talk about something

0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that's iconic in today's technology, the iPhone, And it's really

0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a matter of timing. It's important to talk about the

0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.160
<v Speaker 1>iPhone came out ten years ago as of the recording

0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.280
<v Speaker 1>of this podcast. Anyway, if you're listening in the future,

0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it was more than that. But at the time of

0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the recording, we're talking about ten years since the iPhone

0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.720
<v Speaker 1>came out, and we have the tenth anniversary iPhone coming

0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.320
<v Speaker 1>out right around the corner. In fact, on September twelve, seventeen,

0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Apple is going to unveil the tenth anniversary version of

0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.399
<v Speaker 1>the iPhone, and by the time you listen to this,

0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's already happened. I don't know when you've when

0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you've subscribed, but this episode should publish before September, and

0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be a good idea to trace

0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.319
<v Speaker 1>the history of the iPhone and talk about impact on

0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.920
<v Speaker 1>technology and culture. So I was gonna do an episode

0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that just kind of went through the evolution of the iPhone. However,

0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.920
<v Speaker 1>something happened. I started researching, and when I really got

0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.600
<v Speaker 1>into the origins of the iPhone, I realized that, holy cow,

0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.240
<v Speaker 1>just that story, just the story of how the first

0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:54.560
<v Speaker 1>iPhone came to be, is so incredible and so complicated

0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.040
<v Speaker 1>it justified an entire episode. So I concentrated on that,

0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and then I found out that, surprise, surprise, it was

0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.640
<v Speaker 1>such a huge story that it's more than one episode.

0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.680
<v Speaker 1>This is actually part one of a two part episode

0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:13.720
<v Speaker 1>about the origins of the iPhone. So this story will continue.

0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.639
<v Speaker 1>In the next episode of tech Stuff. We will conclude

0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the story of the origin of the iPhone. I have

0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.639
<v Speaker 1>a little bit to say about how the iPhone evolved

0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.920
<v Speaker 1>in its impact on technology in general at the end

0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:32.960
<v Speaker 1>of the next episode. But this story is bonkers, y'all. Now,

0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.320
<v Speaker 1>before I get into it, I've got to give some

0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.720
<v Speaker 1>credit out there, actually a lot of credit to a

0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.880
<v Speaker 1>particular writer, Brian Merchant. Mr. Merchant is an editor over

0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.720
<v Speaker 1>at Motherboard. That's one of the sites I love to visit.

0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Motherboards a great site. And he's been published by gosh,

0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.440
<v Speaker 1>just about everyone everywhere, and he has a book out

0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:59.000
<v Speaker 1>now titled The One Device, The Secret History of the iPhone.

0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.480
<v Speaker 1>And I used a lot of different sources when I

0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.519
<v Speaker 1>was researching this episode, but I would say that that

0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:09.480
<v Speaker 1>book was my primary source. It's incredible. It's got an

0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:14.800
<v Speaker 1>enormous amount, an exhaustive amount, you might say, of information

0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:19.160
<v Speaker 1>about the iPhone and its development, including things like details

0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.160
<v Speaker 1>about the manufacturing process and the materials that go into

0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the iPhone, so not just the story of how it

0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.000
<v Speaker 1>was created, but the actual story of the stuff used

0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.079
<v Speaker 1>to create it, the physical materials. I'm not going to

0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.080
<v Speaker 1>dive into that part because it's outside the scope of

0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:37.480
<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to talk about, But if you find

0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.080
<v Speaker 1>this discussion at all interesting, I recommend you hunt down

0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a copy of Brian Merchant's book again, that's uh, The

0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.000
<v Speaker 1>One Device. Check that out because he goes into way

0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.360
<v Speaker 1>more detail than I am going to go into. And

0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I've got two episodes to talk about here. Now, the

0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.760
<v Speaker 1>iPhone origin story is incredibly complex and there are a

0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of different layers involved in it. It's a story

0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of innovation, it's a story about advances in technology, but

0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it's also a story about corporate politics and personality clashes

0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and personal tragedy as it turns out. So this isn't

0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.360
<v Speaker 1>a story about how some guy at Apple cobbled a

0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.160
<v Speaker 1>phone together out of I don't know, shoe polish and dreams.

0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.960
<v Speaker 1>The iPhone project involved dozens of people, sometimes working at

0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:31.560
<v Speaker 1>cross purposes toward one another, So you had groups that

0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:35.479
<v Speaker 1>were trying to compete with each other within Apple in

0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:40.080
<v Speaker 1>order to produce this iPhone. And really it's it's very

0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.480
<v Speaker 1>challenging to find a spot to begin, I mean, and

0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that's because real history rarely has a clearly cut beginning

0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.880
<v Speaker 1>or a middle. Really, the only thing that history has

0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:55.279
<v Speaker 1>a clear cut defining feature is an end, because one

0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.279
<v Speaker 1>day there will be an end to at least human history,

0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the heat death of the universe pretty spells

0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.719
<v Speaker 1>it out for us. But until that day, whenever it

0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.400
<v Speaker 1>may be, it is hard to find a point where

0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you can have a clear cut beginning it's we like

0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>our stories to have nice beginnings. That's just not the

0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.680
<v Speaker 1>way real history works. So I thought it might be

0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:20.160
<v Speaker 1>fun to go back and talk about an earlier mobile

0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.240
<v Speaker 1>device Apple tried to launch in an effort to define

0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.160
<v Speaker 1>a new era in computing, because I think it's a

0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.760
<v Speaker 1>great way to compare and contrast the iPhone and I'm

0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:36.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about the unfortunate Apple Newton. Now, the Apple Newton

0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.400
<v Speaker 1>story is valuable because it illustrates how the iPhone project

0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.640
<v Speaker 1>could have gone really wrong, and the story begins more

0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.600
<v Speaker 1>than a decade before the iPhone project got the official

0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.600
<v Speaker 1>nod from Steve Jobs. In fact, this story begins back

0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.280
<v Speaker 1>when Steve Jobs wasn't even part of Apple. So if

0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you've listened to my podcasts about Apple, you know that

0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.880
<v Speaker 1>this is part of their story. A right that John Scully,

0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:06.480
<v Speaker 1>who was brought into Apple to be their CEO, had

0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:11.640
<v Speaker 1>progressively pushed Steve Jobs towards the outskirts of the company,

0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.960
<v Speaker 1>both figuratively and literally, putting him in a remote part

0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:19.279
<v Speaker 1>of the Apple campus and giving him fewer and fewer responsibilities.

0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Jobs had alienated Scully, and he was notorious for his

0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:30.039
<v Speaker 1>managerial style, which I think we could generously describe as difficult.

0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.839
<v Speaker 1>So Jobs left Apple in nineteen five. Effectively he was

0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.920
<v Speaker 1>forced out, and Scully turned his sites to finding a

0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:42.240
<v Speaker 1>new product to transform the computing space. Now. Scully became

0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:46.200
<v Speaker 1>enamored with this idea of a tablet like computing device

0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that would rely upon artificial intelligence to help users navigate

0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and complete tasks. And it was a really far out

0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.400
<v Speaker 1>futuristic idea that would turn out to be a bit

0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.440
<v Speaker 1>beyond the technological grasp of Apple or anyone else for

0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that matter at that time, and it just couldn't take

0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.080
<v Speaker 1>on a format that would be consumer ready, but it

0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.360
<v Speaker 1>did set in motion the events that would lead to

0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the Apple Newton. Scully's version of this device was called

0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the Knowledge Navigator. Apple even created a concept video to

0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.040
<v Speaker 1>show off what the Knowledge Navigator would one day be

0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.800
<v Speaker 1>able to do, and you can find this on YouTube,

0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's fascinating if you watch this. It is an

0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.960
<v Speaker 1>amazing piece of of a video because it has a

0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of prescience about where technology was going to be

0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.720
<v Speaker 1>headed over the next couple of decades. It took a

0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.239
<v Speaker 1>couple of decades to get there, but you can see

0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:45.360
<v Speaker 1>ideas that are now becoming commonplace. In that concept video.

0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:50.200
<v Speaker 1>The actual knowledge navigator in that video was like a magazine.

0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It was actually a folded over computer. You could unfold

0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it like you would a magazine as if you were

0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.720
<v Speaker 1>opening it, and it had screens on both sides where

0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.559
<v Speaker 1>images and show up. It could talk to you, so

0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.320
<v Speaker 1>it had a voice capability, and it it had a

0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:09.360
<v Speaker 1>touch screen and voice activation system, so you could either

0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.200
<v Speaker 1>use touch commands or talk to it and make it

0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:16.800
<v Speaker 1>do things like add in scheduling, UH conflicts or anything

0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.800
<v Speaker 1>like that, or just schedule events on your calendar. You

0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.800
<v Speaker 1>might hear a message and say, hey, put a note

0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:27.800
<v Speaker 1>in my calendar surprise birthday party tomorrow. So it was

0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.960
<v Speaker 1>really incredible because it incorporated features that later on we

0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.959
<v Speaker 1>would see in actual real world devices like the iPad

0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.080
<v Speaker 1>or things like Amazon's Echo or Google Home. But it

0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.000
<v Speaker 1>was very much in that concept phase back in the

0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties. There was no way to really make this

0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.640
<v Speaker 1>at that point. It was just sort of a dream

0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.959
<v Speaker 1>that Scully had. He just wanted to see something akin

0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to that. And one person who was brought over to

0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Apple around this time who saw the potential in creating

0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a handheld computing device was Jean Luis Gassy and I

0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.560
<v Speaker 1>also talked about Jean Luis guess Ay in those Apple

0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.320
<v Speaker 1>episodes I referred to earlier. Guess A worked with a

0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.840
<v Speaker 1>guy named Steve Sikaman who used to work for HP,

0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and he really wanted to create special new technology, but

0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.800
<v Speaker 1>no one over at HP was interested. So then he

0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.160
<v Speaker 1>came over to Apple and for a while he was

0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to work that over at Apple. Didn't get a

0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of headway there either, and was about to leave

0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the company when he and guess A got an amazing opportunity.

0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Guess A got permission from Scully to work on a

0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.800
<v Speaker 1>project without actually telling him what that project was. He

0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.520
<v Speaker 1>essentially said, I have this idea. I think it could

0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.439
<v Speaker 1>be incredible. I need your go ahead for me to

0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to bring some people over into this project and work

0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.480
<v Speaker 1>on it, and then I'll have something to show you

0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.200
<v Speaker 1>in the future and maybe it's something we can move

0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.320
<v Speaker 1>on as a product. And Scully said, all right, I

0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.760
<v Speaker 1>trust you, go ahead. So guess And and Segament began

0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to work on a project check that would eventually become

0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the Apple Newton. The idea was that segment. He had

0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a real interest in handwriting recognition technology, and so they

0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.720
<v Speaker 1>were talking about making a handheld device that would have

0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a stylists and a writing surface, and you could write

0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.120
<v Speaker 1>on the device and it would translate it into digital text,

0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.480
<v Speaker 1>among other things. And so they started work on this

0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and it would evolve into the Apple Newton. And even

0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:31.200
<v Speaker 1>back then, Segment said there were very early problems right

0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the gate with the Apple Newton. Big one

0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.240
<v Speaker 1>of those problems was that Guess didn't really set any

0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.760
<v Speaker 1>restrictions on what should go into the device. He didn't

0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.440
<v Speaker 1>have any hard and fast rules about that. So you

0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.400
<v Speaker 1>get a bunch of engineers together and you tell them

0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.240
<v Speaker 1>your general idea, you don't set restrictions on it. Everyone

0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:55.760
<v Speaker 1>immediately starts to brainstorm different features and functions that quote

0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.200
<v Speaker 1>unquote should go into that device. And then it just

0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:04.240
<v Speaker 1>becomes a Morga's board of people adding in functionality, making

0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.680
<v Speaker 1>the device more and more complex over time, and it

0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.120
<v Speaker 1>became bloated with features as engineers kept thinking of other

0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff the device should be able to do. The more

0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.719
<v Speaker 1>features they gave the Newton, the more power it was

0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.440
<v Speaker 1>going to require, and the more expensive components it would

0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.000
<v Speaker 1>require in order to do this sort of processing, and

0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the more strain on its battery it would create because

0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you're requiring more power. So, in other words, it was

0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.280
<v Speaker 1>just making the whole thing more complicated and more expensive,

0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and it was strangling the development of the project. So

0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.400
<v Speaker 1>in those early designs, before they had anything really to

0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.080
<v Speaker 1>show for it, the team determined that the size of

0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the Newton would be about the same as a four

0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.840
<v Speaker 1>standard paper size. At Secondment felt it was already getting

0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.120
<v Speaker 1>bigger than it was supposed to be. He wanted a

0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.680
<v Speaker 1>smaller form factor, and the projected price for the gadget,

0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.920
<v Speaker 1>based upon the elements that they were brainstorming at that time,

0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.600
<v Speaker 1>was looked at it about six thousand dollars six thousand

0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:10.079
<v Speaker 1>dollars for a handheld device, essentially a personal digital assistant

0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.160
<v Speaker 1>or p d A that could read your handwriting. Six

0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:17.160
<v Speaker 1>grand and we're talking nineteen eighties money here, so if

0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.720
<v Speaker 1>you adjusted for inflation, you're talking about ten thousand dollars

0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:26.959
<v Speaker 1>in today's cash for this device. Ten grand. I mean,

0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Apple was known for selling premium products at a high price.

0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:35.760
<v Speaker 1>But come on, well, Guessa and Sigaman would both end

0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.080
<v Speaker 1>up leaving Apple before the Newton was finished. They would

0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.439
<v Speaker 1>go on to found a new company called be Incorporated.

0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.680
<v Speaker 1>That's b E. They created the b box platform. But

0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.080
<v Speaker 1>a side note here segment would eventually rejoin our story

0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.520
<v Speaker 1>because he would come back to Apple in two thousand

0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:57.480
<v Speaker 1>three as vice president of Software Technology, so he would

0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.880
<v Speaker 1>actually play an important role in the development of the

0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:04.559
<v Speaker 1>iPhone later on, but his role in the Newton had

0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.560
<v Speaker 1>come to an end. He and guess A left, So

0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.200
<v Speaker 1>even though they got the project started, they left before

0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it was finished. But by then Scully was completely behind

0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:15.600
<v Speaker 1>it and the ball was rolling and there were there

0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.200
<v Speaker 1>was a team hard at work trying to make this

0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.520
<v Speaker 1>become a reality. Now on the software side of things,

0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the Apple Newton pioneered some really cool technology, including elements

0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of that assist of AI that Scully had been dreaming about.

0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.160
<v Speaker 1>The software could search through text, and it could identify

0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.160
<v Speaker 1>names and cross reference that with a context list. It

0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.760
<v Speaker 1>could identify phone numbers, It could send hyperlinks for email

0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:42.679
<v Speaker 1>addresses and more and make it more useful by recognizing

0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.440
<v Speaker 1>these elements within text. And it could also pull up

0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:50.080
<v Speaker 1>scheduling information based upon text within messages about meeting times.

0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.760
<v Speaker 1>So short it had early versions of the features you

0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.840
<v Speaker 1>find in a lot of email apps and smart devices

0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.959
<v Speaker 1>out there. So, for example, if I get an email

0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that uh confer arms that I've purchased tickets for something

0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to my Gmail account, that will put

0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.480
<v Speaker 1>in a Gmail entry in my out or my my

0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Google calendar and say, all right, well, because I've got

0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.120
<v Speaker 1>this message and because it had this time and this time,

0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.439
<v Speaker 1>this date on it, I can put in an entry

0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:22.680
<v Speaker 1>in that calendar. Well, the Apple Newton had a rudimentary

0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.080
<v Speaker 1>form of that technology in it, which was years ahead

0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of anyone else at that point. It also had the

0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:34.160
<v Speaker 1>infamous handwriting recognition algorithm. Now, the algorithm was designed to

0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.120
<v Speaker 1>learn over time how to recognize specific characters written onto

0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the message pad, but it wasn't terribly accurate right out

0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.600
<v Speaker 1>of the gate, and that would end up causing some

0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.560
<v Speaker 1>major major problems for Apple. The development process was stretching

0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.240
<v Speaker 1>on for years, and Scully eventually put his foot down

0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and demanded that the team produced a Newton device that

0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:58.240
<v Speaker 1>would be ready for consumers by April second, and he

0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted it to cost less than of teen hundred dollars. Meanwhile,

0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.400
<v Speaker 1>within the teams that were about three different models that

0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.560
<v Speaker 1>were being proposed for the Apple Newton and They ranged

0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.560
<v Speaker 1>from the bare bones version that would be the cheapest

0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.440
<v Speaker 1>to a full featured version that would be more than

0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.360
<v Speaker 1>seven thousand dollars. Teams broke out in support of those

0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.320
<v Speaker 1>different models, and the two teams that had the most

0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.400
<v Speaker 1>support were the extreme ends. You had the junior end

0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:31.200
<v Speaker 1>on one side and the senior end on the other side. Uh,

0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and it became a battle of wills, and apparently it

0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.080
<v Speaker 1>got a bit heated. The senior version of the Newton

0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:41.080
<v Speaker 1>was way more feature heavy and included some stuff like

0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the ability to network with other Newton's. The problem was

0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the way it networked was through infrared communication, and the

0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.120
<v Speaker 1>infrared sensors did not work well under fluorescent lights, which

0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.240
<v Speaker 1>led the junior team to jokingly state that the only

0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.600
<v Speaker 1>way you could use the Newton networking function in the

0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.160
<v Speaker 1>senior model would be if you turned all the lights

0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.960
<v Speaker 1>off inside your office, which seems a bit counterproductive. So

0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.000
<v Speaker 1>is this kind of sniping that was going on back

0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and forth. The junior version, like I said, was not

0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.880
<v Speaker 1>quite so latent with features and would cost less than

0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a thousand dollars, and eventually it became the front runner

0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.160
<v Speaker 1>among all the models, but it didn't get there without

0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:23.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of arguments on all sides. April came and

0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.920
<v Speaker 1>went and the team still didn't have a Shippa Bowl

0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.080
<v Speaker 1>product yet, though they had performed a few successful demos,

0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.760
<v Speaker 1>so Scully was assuaged a little bit, although he kept

0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.240
<v Speaker 1>on setting new deadlines so that the team would have

0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.880
<v Speaker 1>something to work toward. He laid down the law again

0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and kept creating these deadlines, saying pressure the team, he said,

0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.520
<v Speaker 1>produced some results for me, and it caused a great

0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.840
<v Speaker 1>deal of problems among the team and likely contributed to

0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:51.160
<v Speaker 1>one absolute tragedy. One of the programmers on the project

0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.840
<v Speaker 1>was a guy named Ko who moved from Japan with

0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.080
<v Speaker 1>his wife to be part of the programming community in

0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley and joined Apple. On December twelfth, Iszono went

0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:07.320
<v Speaker 1>home after work and he committed suicide. The assumption is

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that the intense pressure at work to create the Apple

0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Newton led to this breakdown. Now, that was the absolute

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.760
<v Speaker 1>worst of the tragedies associated with Newton's development, but it

0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.800
<v Speaker 1>was not the only one. There was another event that

0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.320
<v Speaker 1>happened where one of the developers had some sort of

0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.560
<v Speaker 1>mental breakdown and assaulted his roommate and was charged with

0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.800
<v Speaker 1>assault and sent to jail as a result, so John

0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Scully would not be in charge by the time the

0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Newton was finally ready to debut. He stepped down as

0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:44.560
<v Speaker 1>CEO of Apple on June seven. That was two months

0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.040
<v Speaker 1>before the Newton went gold, so it's just too much

0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.800
<v Speaker 1>shy of the Newton actually launching. He was effectively forced

0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.480
<v Speaker 1>to resign by the board of directors, and he became

0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the chairman of Apple, but his position was reduced to

0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:01.359
<v Speaker 1>being largely ceremonial, which was an that was somewhat ironic

0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.399
<v Speaker 1>because Scully had effectively done the same thing to Steve

0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Jobs a decade earlier when he was forced out of

0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the company. Michael Spindler would step in as the new

0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.280
<v Speaker 1>CEO of Apple and he would oversee the launch of

0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the Newton. The team did finish the Newton, and it

0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:21.840
<v Speaker 1>shipped in August, I should say, but the handwriting recognition

0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.120
<v Speaker 1>was faulty, as you probably know if you've ever heard

0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.960
<v Speaker 1>anything about the Newton, and since the handwriting feature was

0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.119
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the core feature of the Newton, it

0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:37.359
<v Speaker 1>led to massive criticism and ridicule. Steve Jobs was fuming

0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.320
<v Speaker 1>over it. He was not part of Apple, but he

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:44.080
<v Speaker 1>was furious to see a product make Apple the laughing

0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.199
<v Speaker 1>stock of the tech community. He hated seeing this company

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.320
<v Speaker 1>that he had co found and held up to ridicule,

0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and he had made no secret of his disdain towards

0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Scully throughout Scully's tenure as CEO. Of course, a couple

0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of years later, Steve Jobs would rejoin Apple, and what

0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>happened was that Apple acquired Jobs as company Next. So

0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Jobs that created a company called Next Computers, and Jobs

0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 1>had failed to produce a commercially successful computer with his

0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:18.400
<v Speaker 1>next company, but uh, and it was because that computer

0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.720
<v Speaker 1>was incredibly expensive and a lot of people thought it

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.000
<v Speaker 1>was limited in what it could do. But mostly it

0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.480
<v Speaker 1>was the cost of the computer that made people bulk.

0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.720
<v Speaker 1>But the operating system innovations that his company had created

0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.280
<v Speaker 1>were undeniable, and Apple was really in need of that innovation.

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So Apple acquired Next, and Jobs came along with the company,

0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.919
<v Speaker 1>and before long he was able to maneuver the board

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.320
<v Speaker 1>into making him the interim CEO, and eventually he became

0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the permanent CEO of Apple. So that's the Newton's story,

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'll talk more about how that impacts the iPhone

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.320
<v Speaker 1>story in just a moment. But first let's take a

0:19:55.400 --> 0:20:05.119
<v Speaker 1>quick break to thank our sponsor. You know, the reason

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.439
<v Speaker 1>I spent so much time on that story of the

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Newton in a podcast about the iPhone is to set

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.280
<v Speaker 1>that stage and explain why the iPhone was such a

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:18.200
<v Speaker 1>big risk for Apple. The company's reputation had already been damaged.

0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:22.119
<v Speaker 1>The Newton was literally a punchline. I distinctly remember a

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Simpsons episode that used it as a throwaway joke. And

0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.680
<v Speaker 1>again I mean that literally, as Nelson throws a Newton

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:33.919
<v Speaker 1>away after it misinterprets handwriting. So trying to get a

0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 1>new type of computing device out the door was going

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to have big obstacles, not just from technology but also

0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.640
<v Speaker 1>from a corporate culture standpoint. And Steve Jobs was, as

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure many of you are aware, a notoriously difficult

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 1>person to work for. He had very strong convictions, very

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:56.320
<v Speaker 1>strong opinions, and he was not terribly concerned with how

0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>they came across in his interactions with other people. Uh

0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 1>he would he could be incredibly blunt and sometimes extremely critical,

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.879
<v Speaker 1>and it was a tough environment. Now, in the early

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:14.360
<v Speaker 1>two thousand's, before anyone had even proposed a formal phone project,

0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 1>at Apple, employees were talking about how cell phones were

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:21.879
<v Speaker 1>a potential opportunity for the company because there was a

0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 1>general consensus that cell phones kind of stunk at the time.

0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 1>They had really bad call quality, many of the handsets

0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.440
<v Speaker 1>were not good at holding onto a signal, you would

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.120
<v Speaker 1>have calls dropping left and right, and the internet features

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 1>were anemic. But while there was a general desire to

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 1>look into developing a cell phone under Apple's brand, it

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:48.399
<v Speaker 1>remained mostly wishful thinking, including among people who had worked

0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 1>on the Newton project and who were still at Apple. Meanwhile,

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Apple was launching a device that would revolutionize electronics as

0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>well as an entirely different industry, namely the music industry.

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I am talking, of course, about the iPod, and I've

0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 1>done a full episode about that device, so I'm not

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:10.159
<v Speaker 1>going to retread it here, But the iPod it wasn't

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a home run right away. The two thousand one iPod

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:17.159
<v Speaker 1>had some hefty limitations. Now. The biggest limitation was that

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 1>it was only compatible with Mac computers, and that was

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 1>a problem because at the time, Max represented a very

0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:29.200
<v Speaker 1>small percentage of the overall computer market. The overwhelming majority

0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>of computer owners were using Windows based devices, and so

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the iPods customer base was limited by that compatibility issue.

0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Now Tony Fidell, who sometimes is referred to as the

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:45.400
<v Speaker 1>pod Father, oversaw the development and launch of the iPod,

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 1>and he thought that Apple should make the iPod work

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.560
<v Speaker 1>with PCs, which would mean developing iTunes software that could

0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 1>run on Windows based machines. Steve Jobs was really reluctant. Actually,

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that's too gentle word to use. Steve Jobs refused to

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 1>do this for a long time, but after a couple

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of years of lackluster iPod sales, Jobs had to admit

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that they needed to explore other options if the iPod

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.160
<v Speaker 1>were to be a real success. Now, Luckily, in this case,

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.919
<v Speaker 1>Fidel had kind of gone behind Steve Jobs back and

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>he had been working with a group of people to

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>develop iTunes for Windows machines without Jobs being aware of it.

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:28.200
<v Speaker 1>So once Steve Jobs actually came around to this idea

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of a Windows compatible iPod, Fidel already had the iTunes

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.919
<v Speaker 1>build ready to go essentially, and once Apple allowed for

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 1>this connectivity, iPod sales exploded. It suddenly became extremely popular

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 1>because now it was compatible with the overwhelming majority of

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>computers out there, and by two thousand four, the iPod

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>sales accounted for fifty percent of all revenue for Apple.

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:58.479
<v Speaker 1>So Apple was no longer just a computer company. Had

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a new mobile product that was in just as much

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.400
<v Speaker 1>money as their computer sales were bringing in. So this

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>was revolutionary, and that revolution would of course ripple out

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.479
<v Speaker 1>to affect the entire music industry as well. It really

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>changed the way the music industry works. So you have

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Fidel and he starts thinking about this possibility of making

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a phone similar to the iPod, so would essentially be

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:25.360
<v Speaker 1>an iPod with a phone kind of glommed onto it.

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>And I've got a lot more to say about that

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>in this episode. But as I mentioned earlier, there had

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>been talks at Apple about phones and phone like devices,

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>but no definitive move to develop one. No one had

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.400
<v Speaker 1>actually launched a project in Apple to do this, though.

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of different proposals out there, and

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>some of those talks involved not building a phone, but

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>rather acquiring a handset manufacturing company, one that was already

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.879
<v Speaker 1>in the business of building phones. So in two thousand three,

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Apple executives were seriously considering the possibility of making a

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 1>move on Motorola, but ultimately they decided that the cost

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of the acquisition would be too high, the payoff was

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>too uncertain, and so they decided they couldn't go forward.

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 1>They abandoned the idea to purchase Motorola, but they did

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:19.719
<v Speaker 1>see another way that they could partner with Motorola. So

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Steve Jobs really like the design of a Motorola phone

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 1>called the Razor are A z R. This is a

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>feature phone and it was pretty popular back when it

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>was released. I know a lot of people who held

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>onto their Razors well into the smartphone era, even though

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 1>the Razors really more of a feature phone than a smartphone.

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>And so Apple and Motorola had some discussions and decided

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to partner to develop a new phone. Motorola would build

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the device and Apple would incorporate some iTunes functionality on

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the phone, and this would become the Motorola Rocker R

0:25:56.000 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>O c k R I guess we really hate final

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:06.919
<v Speaker 1>vowels in Motorola products. Singular would become the partnered carrier

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.119
<v Speaker 1>for this phone. So you really have three big companies

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>all working together to create something new. You had the

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>hardware and the operating system coming from Motorola. You had

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the iTunes functionality coming from Apple and the service coming

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>from Singular. Now. The Rocker was meant to be a

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>bridge between phones and m P three players, but Apple

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>developers didn't really want to give Motorola too much, so

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 1>they purposefully designed the iTunes functionality with limitations so that

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Apple wouldn't go and create its own product rival. It

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't make sense for Apple to help Motorola create a

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>product that would complete compete directly with the iPod, and

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>so the iTunes functionality was severely limited as a result.

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Fidella essentially confirmed this when he talked with Merchant during

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.439
<v Speaker 1>interviews for that book. I was mentioning earlier in the

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>episode that this was pretty much the planet Apple all along,

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.959
<v Speaker 1>that they had purposefully nerfed the iTunes functionality so that

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they could avoid cannibalizing their own sales and also possibly

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>set up a phone project at Apple later on. And

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>when Steve Jobs finally debuted the Motorola Rocker, which some

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>were calling the iTunes Phone, and this happened in two

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand five, he was visibly not into it and there

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>were some glitches during his presentation that did not help,

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>and so Jobs did kind of a pivot during the event.

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>He was also there to talk about the iPod Nano,

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>that particularly small version of the iPod with some limited

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>functionality that at a lower price point than the other

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>iPod lines, and he kind of buried the Rocker, and

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>he kind of talked about how the Nano could hold

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>just as many songs as the Rocker could, and Motorola

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.239
<v Speaker 1>executives were not thrilled by this, to be honest, they

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>were a little steamed about it. Fidel, on the other hand,

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>was pleased as punch because he figured he could get

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 1>jobs to back phone projects at Apple so that the

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 1>company could show how to do phones the right way

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and not depend upon a partner for the hardware. And

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>for that was right about that. The Rocker turned into

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a flop, and at a return rate six times higher

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 1>than other phones on the market, which means people were

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>six times more likely to return their Motorola Rocker in

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>exchange for something else than they would any other phone,

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>which is not great. But now I got a backtrack

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:28.239
<v Speaker 1>just a bit, because I was just talking about two

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand five. But again, this is a complicated story, and

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff is happening at around the same

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>time or a little bit earlier, So while the Motorola

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>deal was kind of forming within Apple before it was

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>actually created. Around two thousand four or so, you had

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>different groups with an Apple all getting more serious about

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>actually developing a phone for Apple itself, and they were

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>taking very different philosophical pathways towards this goal. Meanwhile, Steve

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Jobs was showing reluctance to get into that industry. He

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>had publicly said that smartphones were problematic because carriers tend

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>to get really intrusive, the carriers being the companies that

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>provide the cell service to phones, and as such, they

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>have high demands regarding the capabilities of handsets that run

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>on their respective networks, and Steve Jobs bristled at the

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>thought of some other company coming in and dictating which

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>features he could and couldn't include in his phone, and

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>he didn't really want to deal with that mess. He

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>preferred to be the master of Apple and not have

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>other people tell him what he could and couldn't do.

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And on top of that, within Apple, not publicly, but

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>within the company, Jobs said he wasn't really keen on

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>smartphones because he thought they only would appeal to quote

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the pocket protector crowd end quote. So essentially he was

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>saying only nerds are gonna want smartphones, it's not really

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a viable industry, And honestly, at the time he was

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>saying this, he was mostly right, because smartphone of that

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>era were clunky. They were chunky, they were burdened by

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>physical keyboards and controls, They weren't easy or intuitive to use,

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>They had limited functionality, and even with features like email

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and web access, they were limited in what they could

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>actually display or how you could interact with those Internet features.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And the only people who are really willing to put

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>up with all of that nonsense in return for a

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>smartphone that was typically incredibly expensive were either executives or

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>bleeding edge techno buffs. Jobs felt the market just wouldn't

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>support a smartphone, at least not to the level where

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it would be profitable. Still, all that being said, Fidel

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>wanted to give it a go, and other groups did too,

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and Jobs eventually gave his permission for preliminary development to

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>begin at around two thousand four. This was around the

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>same time Apple was working with Motorola. Now, these early

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>days were blue sky, and by that I mean no

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>one was really sure what form the phone would ultimately take,

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 1>what the user interface was going to be like what

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of operating system it would have, what features it

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>would support, or really anything about it. Now, Jobs was

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>holding conversations with various carriers and exploring options at this time,

0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and initial conversations with Verizon we're going nowhere. Jobs felt

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>that Verizon just wanted too much input in the development

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>of the phone. Project Singular seemed a little more favorable.

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>The carrier said that in return for exclusivity, they would

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>place no demands or restrictions on the phone. Now, eventually,

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Apple would end up partnering with a T and T

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and an exclusive deal that lasted a few years here

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Now, the story behind that is

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>so complicated that I might actually have to do another

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>episode about that specifically in the future, But for now,

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>let's just acknowledge that when the phone finally did debut,

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>a T and T was the carrier partner in the

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>United States. So Fidel and team began working on an

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>idea that would eventually really turn into the iPod Touch

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the iPhone, because he was thinking about

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>adding radio frequency capability to an iPod, but in this

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>case that our ff ability was WiFi, not cellular service. Uh,

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>that's ultimately what would come out of Fidel's group. Fidel's

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>team began to work on this and started with existing

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>iPod design. So this is before the iPod touch. It

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>was back in the old user interface of the iPod.

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about that click wheel design of the old iPods.

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the first iPhone sort of had a rotary

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>dial on the front of them in a sense. Because

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it had that click wheel, you would navigate the phone's

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>features using the clickwheel. Now, jobs ultimately would feel that

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>this was not a particularly good user experience, but Fidel's

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>team really went for it, building out the operating system

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and user interface to support the click wheel navigation system.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Fidel's approach was much more conservative than what the iPhone

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>would turn out to be, not just because of the

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>user interface and navigation, but also in its features. The

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Fidel version was really an MP three player that was

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>all so a phone, So it wasn't a pocket computer

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>or an Internet connected device in the way the iPhone is.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It really just had two modes of operation. It had

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>iPod mode and in that mode. Eventually, once they settled

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>on a particular user interface and an appearance, the screen

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>would turn blue and you could listen to your music.

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>If you switched it to phone mode, the screen would

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>turn kind of an amber color, and then you can

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>make calls. Meanwhile, there were other people like Michael Bell,

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>who were arguing for an entirely different approach to phone design.

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Bell felt that the future was in convergence, with devices

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>like the iPod, telephones, and computers all merging into a

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>single form factor, and Bell and Jobs had numerous discussions

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>some might call them arguments about this. Bell used some

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>of Johnny i'ves designs for future iPod models as leverage.

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>He said, don't think about the way mobile devices look

0:33:58.200 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>right now. Take a look at some of these design

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>for future iPods and imagine a Mac style device, something

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 1>running a Mac operating system in this warm factor. It

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>would be a surefire hit. And it's definitely where things

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>are headed anyway. And if we jump on it, if

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Apple becomes the company to make this, we could be

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>pioneers and lead the space. Steve Jobs was not immediately

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>convinced of this. He actually held out for a while,

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>but he did get broken down by Michael Bell's arguments,

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>and Bell insisted that there was value in developing a

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>product that could merge the qualities of a phone and

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 1>NB three player and a network computer, and Jobs would

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>allow Bell to work on this idea. He agreed to

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>it on November seven, two thousand four. And thus you

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>had two different groups trying to go in two different

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>pathways to create the same in the goal a phone,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>but they were taking very different pathways to get there.

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>And that began the rate mystery at Apple. You can

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of think of it as like a murder mystery

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>in a way, because employees were disappearing left and right,

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>only they weren't getting killed, they were getting cherry picked

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:15.959
<v Speaker 1>for one of these two different projects. Uh Fidel's team,

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>which would become known as P one, started to try

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and create their iPod phone, and then the team that

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Bell argued for and Scott Forstaul would end up working with,

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>was trying to create this new piece of merged technology.

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>They became known as P two. So had P one

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and P two, and both teams began rating Apple talent. Now.

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Jobs was incredibly paranoid about this phone project. He insisted

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>on the utmost secrecy, and he forbade anyone from recruiting

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>from outside the company, so instead teams were free to

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>pick and choose among existing Apple employees. But there was

0:35:55.280 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a big catch. Those employees could not be told they

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>would be working on until after they had already agreed

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to do the work. I've got a lot more to

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>say about that, but before I jump into it, let's

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>take another quick break to thank our sponsor. So the

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>secrecy did not end just in this whole process of

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>picking members for your team. Bit by bit, sections of

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Tino's offices were being converted over to development rooms

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.239
<v Speaker 1>for the iPhone project. Now, a very early version of

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>this was a room where the Human Interface team went,

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>or the HI team as they were called. They were

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>in a unique position and that they worked with both

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the P one and the P two teams. They helped

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>both teams out. They were kind of in between these

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>competing groups, and their office was a room that had

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>no windows, and the only real thing it had inside

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of it was a white board and apparently, according to Merchant,

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>a poster of a chicken for some reason. And they

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>would put up their ideas on the whiteboard, and anything

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that was considered a really good, strong idea that was

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be the one of the central pillars of

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the Human Interface components of the phone project would stay

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>up on the white board, and then other ideas they

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>would erase if they figured that they weren't that important,

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>pertinent or whatever, and they ended up seeing also increased

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>security around the campus. An entire floor of one of

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Apple's buildings eventually became the home of the various teams,

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and to get there you had to have a badge.

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>You had to have a specific security badge to be

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 1>able to access that part of the office, and according

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 1>to some people, you had to go through as many

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 1>as four different secure doors before you could actually get

0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to anything remotely related to the iPhone, and janitorial staff

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even allowed in the space. Job did not want

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>any information about the phone leaking out, even to other

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Apple employees until he was ready to pull the trigger

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>on it now. One of the people who worked on

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the human interface team was Greg Christie. He actually was

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 1>one of the leads on this team, and he had

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>also worked on the Newton back in the day. Steve

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Sackelman also got involved again. Sackeman he he was the

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>guy who had worked on the Newton with Guessa back

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 1>in the day and then left Apple before the Newton debuted. Well,

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>he came back in two thousand three and he found

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it inspiring to work on the phone project. So the

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.439
<v Speaker 1>P two team, you know, the P one was trying

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to make the iPod phone. The P two team became

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>known as the Next Mafia because it included a few

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 1>of the engineers who had worked with Steve Jobs over

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 1>at the Next Company, and they had come over to

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Apple along with the acquisition, and they were known for

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>being really secretive and doing what they had to do

0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>in order to accomplish goals, so kind of like legendary

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>mafioso types, the P two group had some enormous challenges.

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>So unlike the iPod group, the P one group, they

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>did not have a set method for navigation. Like the

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>iPod group, they knew they were going to use the

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 1>same functions of the iPod in order to move around

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>on the phone features. But the P two group, it

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>was more wide open. So they wanted to explore the

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>possibility of using multi touch interfaces. And Apple likes to

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>boast it invented multi touch. It's certainly patented approaches to

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>multi touch, but it's not really true that the company

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>invented it. There had been multi touch interfaces in various

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>stages of development at different places, including Xerox Park for

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>more than a decade, but no one had created a

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>multi touch tool that could work in a small form

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>factor in a commercial consumer product. Now, Apple had acquired

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a company called finger Works that was founded by a

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 1>man named Wayne Westerman. Westerman wanted to create an alternative

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:07.959
<v Speaker 1>two keyboard interfaces because he had a repetitive strain injury

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and that made it really painful to use a keyboard

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>for any kind of extended time. So he began to

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>pioneer work in multi touch interfaces alternatives to keyboards, and

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>he became an important key player in the technology that

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>would allow for iPhones revolutionary interface. Another group that worked

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>on this touch screen technology was the Q seventy nine group,

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and originally they were trying to build a multi touch tablet,

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>although that ultimately didn't pan out, at least not in

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>its initial form factor. They had been working on multi

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>touch since two thousand three with an Apple and Bass

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Ordering was one of those engineers b A. S O R.

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>D I N G. And he played an important role

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in developing the technology used in the iPhone. These engineers

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>reached relished this challenge rather of scaling the technology down

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>so they could fit inside the form factor of a

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>mobile device, although most of their initial work was with

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>full size computers, and then they were saying, well, worry,

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>We'll worry about making it smaller later. Let's just worry

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>about making it work right now. Ordering had been told

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>by Jobs that the goal was to create a phone

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that would have no physical buttons and relied solely on

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>touch screen gestures, and Ording was intrigued and at the

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>time wasn't really sure if this was going to be possible,

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>but he felt it was a worthy challenge, and so

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 1>he joined the iPhone project, and it was Ordering who

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 1>created a few of the features that became standard in

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>touch screen navigation. So, for example, if you've ever used

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>an app that had a bit of a rubber band

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>effect whenever you got to the end of a page,

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 1>whether it was the top or the bottom, that was

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Ording's idea. The Ording was using a touch interface with

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>his Mac for testing purposes and found out that if

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 1>he navigated a page, he would often find that once

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 1>he reached the top or bottom of the page, he'd

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>be misled for a few moments into thinking that his

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>interface had broken because he'd get to the end and

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>he'd be trying to scroll end up would happen, and

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you think, oh gosh, it's broken. And then he figured, oh, wait, no, no, no,

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I just got to the end of all the text

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>or all the images or whatever it might have been,

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and he decided there needed to be some sort of

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>visual representation that you had reached the end, and that

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>way you wouldn't think that the scrolling was just broken.

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And so it had this rubber band effect where it

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>would it would come down as if you were continuing

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to scroll, but as soon as you let go, it

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>would snap back up. His team also created the momentum

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>effect of scrolling on the iPhone, so that's when you

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>flick your finger down or up the screen and the

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>scrolling continues for a bit before it slows to a halt,

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>which makes it feel like the virtual pages you're looking

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.600
<v Speaker 1>at are obeying the laws of physics, as if the

0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff you're seeing is actually a physical object. And it

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 1>seems totally obvious now, but someone actually had to come

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>up with that, and then they had to build it,

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and that was Ardings Group. Now there's a ton I

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>need to talk about with this iPhone. But I am

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 1>running out of time for this episode. So what we're

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.280
<v Speaker 1>going to do is we're going to conclude this episode today.

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>We will rejoin at this part in our next episode,

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna have our part two of the Origin

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of the iPhone. If you guys have suggestions for topics

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you would like me to cover in future episodes. Maybe

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a specific technology, maybe it's a person in tech,

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a company, let me know. Send me a message.

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>The email address you should use is tech Stuff at

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 1>how stuffworks dot com, or drop me a line on

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.879
<v Speaker 1>the facebooks or the twitters. I have the handled tech

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Stuff hsw for the show at both of those locations.

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 1>And remember you can watch me stream live as I

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>record these episodes and stumble all over myself and occasionally

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>spill coffee on myself, entertaining things like that, but you

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 1>can only see it if you go to twitch dot

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>tv slash tech Stuff. I typically stream on Wednesdays and Fridays.

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 1>You can go to twitch dot tv slash tech stuff

0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and you'll see the schedule there and I'll talk to

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you again really soon for more on this and thousands

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of other topics. Is it how stuff works dot com,