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Speaker 2: Hey hey, ba fam, what's up. It's your girl, Mandy

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Speaker 1: So, my mother figure growing up was really horrible for money.

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Speaker 2: What did your daddy do? My daddy wasn't teaching me nothing.

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Speaker 3: What would I have done differently? And honestly, we didn't

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Speaker 3: But my dad was a rock star.

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Speaker 1: all around the world, and I'd have to answer and

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Speaker 1: if I didn't answer them and shut them down, and

436
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Speaker 1: it would be like this whole big production.

437
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Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, like, I have to be.

438
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Speaker 1: Ready all the time, I had to be available, and

439
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Speaker 1: I hated that life where I had no time. I

440
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: would literally work hundred hour work weeks sometimes more people

441
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Speaker 1: don't talk about that aspect about being a person in finance.

442
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Speaker 1: A lot of us were one hundred hour work weeks

443
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Speaker 1: and there was really no one to really stop that

444
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Speaker 1: from happening.

445
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Speaker 2: What are you doing with that? Like when they're calling you,

446
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 2: is it because like, oh I saw that, you know

447
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: there's going to be like I bet your phone would

448
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: have been blown up during this whole tariff situation in the.

449
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it would have been. It was so

450
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,400
Speaker 3: it's everything.

451
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Speaker 1: It's everything from what's happening in the news to a

452
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Speaker 1: client saying I woke up and the market is down

453
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: ten percent. When you're managing seven undred and fifty ten

454
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Speaker 1: percent a lot of money, right, But you're kind of

455
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: like don't worry about it because you already did this

456
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Speaker 1: and we're hedging this and we're doing and you know,

457
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Speaker 1: you have to kind of explain to the client why

458
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Speaker 1: they don't need to be worried and what's going to

459
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Speaker 1: happen or that is going to you know, we're confident

460
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Speaker 1: that's going to come back around. So I needed to

461
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Speaker 1: change the place eventually. That's what made me go into

462
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Speaker 1: forensic accounting. That was also fun. It was an interesting

463
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Speaker 1: You've had a.

464
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Speaker 2: Lot of career pivots. Was so the pivot from so like,

465
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Speaker 2: just to backtrack a little bit, there was this big

466
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Speaker 2: pivot from med school to let's focus on finance and

467
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Speaker 2: then you get into wealth management.

468
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Speaker 3: It wasn't even a pivot because I was already in finance.

469
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Speaker 3: I never left finance.

470
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Speaker 1: I was working and going to school at the same time,

471
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Speaker 1: so I never left credit PIECEAI that So I was

472
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Speaker 1: I was already worthy in finance starting school because I

473
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Speaker 1: thought I wanted to be a doctor. I wanted to

474
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Speaker 1: save lives, and then I started realizing what that really

475
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Speaker 1: meant and the work schedule, and you know, I thought

476
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Speaker 1: it was gonna be better than finance, and I was like,

477
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Speaker 1: I don't like the way I smell. I don't want

478
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Speaker 1: I don't want to keep cutting into bodies. I don't

479
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: want to do my residency anymore, you know. And I

480
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: backed out and stayed in finance. But I've always been

481
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Speaker 1: a finance person and every time I've ever tried to

482
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Speaker 1: walk away, it just kept sucking me back in. So

483
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: now it's either I was entrepreneur, finance breaths everything around me.

484
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: I was always supposed to be a numbers person, zeros

485
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Speaker 1: and ones all the way.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you either got it or you don't. To

487
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Speaker 2: a certain extent, it sounds like, all right, so you're

488
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Speaker 2: in finance and wealth management, so how do you get

489
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Speaker 2: into forensic accounting? And then, for people who may not

490
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Speaker 2: know what that is, tell me a little bit about that.

491
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Speaker 3: So my pivot when it came from there.

492
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Speaker 1: I was at a point in my career that I

493
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Speaker 1: wanted to get married and have a child, and I

494
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Speaker 1: knew I had no life. And I was dating this

495
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Speaker 1: man and he was he lived in New York, and

496
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Speaker 1: he was just like, hey, like, if you want me

497
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Speaker 1: to take you to I just need you to do

498
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Speaker 1: me the favor of moving to New York. And you

499
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: can't be traveling as much as you do. And I

500
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Speaker 1: was just kind of like, okay, sure, fast forward. That

501
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: led to where we are now, where I ended up

502
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Speaker 1: in a space where I then went to Forensica counting

503
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: I actually left corporate completely.

504
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Speaker 3: And this is gonna be wild card. I don't know

505
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Speaker 3: how many times.

506
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I've mentioned this before, but

507
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Speaker 1: I was a secretary for like five months. And when

508
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Speaker 1: I was in that position, I thought it was gonna

509
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Speaker 1: be an easy job. Because I used to think that

510
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Speaker 1: secretaries had easy jobs. I had no idea that sometimes

511
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Speaker 1: they actually work harder than the people who get the

512
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Speaker 1: big bucks.

513
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Speaker 2: Girl, my neighbor across the street is constantly crashing out.

514
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Speaker 2: She is an executive assistant to the CEO of a company,

515
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Speaker 2: and her stories like just quick, snap, quick, like bow

516
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Speaker 2: down to the secretaries and administrators.

517
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Speaker 1: I buy down all the admins right, secretaries and bookkeepers.

518
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Speaker 1: And I thought it's gonna be a easy job. And

519
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: then I realized the amount of work that I was doing.

520
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 1: I was like, you guys should be paying me ten

521
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: times you're paying me. And if that's the case, that

522
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: I might as well go back to regular corporate and

523
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Speaker 1: get a real job again, or like, got a real job,

524
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Speaker 1: but get a job that will hease pay me when

525
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Speaker 1: I want to get paid.

526
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Speaker 2: And so why did you pivot? Why did you do? Secretary?

527
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Speaker 2: Was that when you were like, I don't have a life.

528
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Speaker 2: I need more time.

529
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Speaker 1: Because I left credit used, I left investment banking, I

530
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: was new to the States, I was learning where my

531
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: place was going to be in the States. And I'm

532
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Speaker 1: also one of those people I don't want to live

533
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Speaker 1: off of my savings. So I was like, let me

534
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Speaker 1: just get a little job. I thought it was gonna

535
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: be a little light job so that I can make

536
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Speaker 1: some money. And so that pivot is what brought me

537
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Speaker 1: to that position. So I was just like, I just

538
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: didn't like job to just make some money so I

539
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: don't have to dip into my savings too much. That

540
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: led to this then working as a secretary. I complained

541
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Speaker 1: to a friend of mine and she's like, well, there's

542
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Speaker 1: a doctor's office who need to help. They need a

543
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Speaker 1: forensic accountain or someone a medical manager. And I was like,

544
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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about that. I know, but she said,

545
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 1: but you know numbers, you know zeros and ones, and

546
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Speaker 1: you know how to scale, and you know, you know people,

547
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: you know you've managed wealth. If you can manage millions

548
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: and billions of dollars, you can manage a person's account.

549
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, let me check it out.

550
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: I took some classes about medical billing. Next thing I

551
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: knew I was running a doctor's office. I bought up there.

552
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: I bought them on forty five percent in one year,

553
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Speaker 1: less than one year. Actually, I bought up their retention

554
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Speaker 1: forty five percent, their profit margin of forty five percent,

555
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: close out a lot of their open receivables. I was

556
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: able to get back seventy percent of their open receivables in.

557
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Speaker 3: Less than a year.

558
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Speaker 1: And then my friend who was watching that happen, she

559
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: was like, you're really good at this this company. And

560
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: then you know, she gave me company, and she's like,

561
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: this very big brand. They need someone to come in.

562
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: And what the forensic accountant comes in and does is

563
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: they look at all your books and your bookkeeping. They

564
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: make sure that if you get audited by the government,

565
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: that everything is aligned. They make sure you don't have

566
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: employees stealing from you. They make sure your bottom line

567
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: makes sense in every zero one online. And because I

568
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: see zeros and ones that I'm a numbers person. I

569
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: would come in and what somebody else wild look at

570
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: the screen and zeros and one and a bunch of

571
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: numbers and get lost. I would come in and it

572
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: just makes sense to me. And so it was a

573
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: really cool phase because it also taught me that there

574
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Speaker 1: are a lot of wealthy, rich people who had debt

575
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: with some of these very big brands, like the Guccies

576
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: of the world, and they weren't paying full price for

577
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: these items. Some of them were getting for free, some

578
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: of them were getting it lay away in a sense.

579
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: Some of them were borrowing clothing and wearing them on

580
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: our carpets and then returning it. And that just really

581
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: was a piece of the puzzle that I needed to know,

582
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: because then it occurred to me that it wasn't just

583
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: poor people who had issues of budgeting. It was wealthy

584
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: people as well. And you know, then I realized it

585
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: was a bigger problem. That's kind of what led me

586
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: towards creating financial literacy curriculum, gearing into the school systems,

587
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: writing a financial literacy book with little things that hopefully

588
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: one day my son could read and learn from, and

589
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, and it started a whole other part of me.

590
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 3: That I didn't even know I had in me, which was.

591
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: The entrepreneurial gene. And it all started because, you know,

592
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: both my parents were gone before I was twenty one,

593
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Speaker 1: and I just knew I didn't want a stranger raise

594
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: in my child when I had a kid. One day

595
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: and that was it. That that's what they wrote, you know,

596
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: that's what history would show you.

597
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: So you're at this medical office and you're a forensic accountant.

598
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: Your friend at the time, the one who's kind of

599
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: pointed you in this direction. I love a career plug.

600
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: How important was that relationship with that friend? Are y'all

601
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: still close to this day? Why was there?

602
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: It was so funny.

603
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: She was dating a friend of mine, and she was

604
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: more cordial friend. It was more like, Okay, you're dating

605
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: my homeboy. So she's a woman and I'm his female bessie.

606
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: And he's telling you because at the time, my friend

607
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: was going to get married to her.

608
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: They were engaged.

609
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: Actually they did get married, and he told her I

610
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: was going to be the best man at his wedding

611
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: when he get married. One day, and I remember thinking, like,

612
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: she needs to make sure she knows I'm cool because

613
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at him, and so because of that,

614
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: we was friend by happenstance. But she was cool, and

615
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: you know, we just had different vantage points of everything

616
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: from dating and how we communicate to our children. So

617
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: the friendship never really stayed because she was like a yeller.

618
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: She also came from one extream to one right. One

619
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: minute she would yell at her kids and flip out

620
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: and black out, but the next minute she's like, Oh,

621
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe in telling my child no. And I'm like,

622
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: maybe we won't use the word no, but it needs

623
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: to be boundaries. And I'm like, that's okay if you

624
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: don't want to tell your child no, but my child's

625
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: going to have boundaries and he's going to know that

626
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: he can't just touch a buyer. But her thought process

627
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: was like, I'll let him touch a fire and he

628
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: burnt his hand and he learn not to touch a

629
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: buyer again, and she was just we really thought about

630
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: things very differently. So we're still friends with some of

631
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: the reaternship.

632
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: That didn't survive the transition to like motherhood and no,

633
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: that's real though, it's real. Though I definitely have friends

634
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: who were closer early in my career, who I just thought, well,

635
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: this is a person's going to be going to be

636
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: my life forever. But then it really does change your

637
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 2: perspective if you put marriage, you know, you put a

638
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: kid into the mix, and then different philosophies and different energies,

639
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 2: Like that's real. I think it's very natural to like

640
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: just let those relationships fizzle.

641
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: And I think the most important part of that conversation

642
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: is realizing that it's okay to grow apart from each other.

643
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: Because someone did something nice for you does not mean

644
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: that they had to be a friend forever. And you know,

645
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: it's interesting because that woman she's friends with me on

646
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: social media, and you know, every blue moon, randomly, like

647
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: every three years four years, I randomly see.

648
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: Her and we have just a great like how are

649
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: you doing? How do wething doing?

650
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: She's on her like third husband, and you know, she's

651
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: living her best life, and she's just kind of like now,

652
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Speaker 1: you know, like recently we had The last time I

653
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Speaker 1: saw her, I was in a gym and I randomly

654
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: ran into her and she said, girl, I just got

655
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: this bb I needs to work out to keep it imitated.

656
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, great for you.

657
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: You know what.

658
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm happy in a minute.

659
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: The point of a BBL is that it gives you

660
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: the beautiful.

661
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: But no, that's not true. That is the biggest fallacy.

662
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: If you let a reason not to do one, why

663
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: do you want if you still got to work out, You.

664
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: Still got to workout.

665
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: Sis to gotta work out because it's a shortcut, right

666
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: instead of you having to take the two years. Because

667
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: let's be honest. As a woman, I don't know about you,

668
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: but I feel like I can go to New Orleans

669
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: in one week and gain ten pounds.

670
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: I could look at a picture of a benita ten

671
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: pounds when I come back, I'm like, And.

672
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: Then the conversation is, when I come back from New Orleans,

673
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: it takes me about three months to lose the ten

674
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: pounds and I gained one week. So you know, so

675
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: that's why some woman, I guess to it me personally,

676
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: that's not my route. Just because knowing that both my

677
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: parents died so young, I am very like surgery adverse.

678
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: Like I'm just very much of a punk.

679
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: I just think things like I don't want to go

680
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: underneath the knife unless it's necessary, because what if God forbid?

681
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: I die on a knife and I'm willingly just bringing

682
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: myself to death store, so I try to like be healthier.

683
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: Yes, likes mom.

684
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: That's one of the most memorable stories of someone doesn't

685
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: don't know how she died. She was getting some kind

686
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: of plastic surgery.

687
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy.

688
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: I actually don't know how she passed away, and I

689
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: think it's sad if that's I think it's sad that

690
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: she passed away period. I feel like it's I just

691
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, I know people have to die because of overpopulation,

692
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: but it still makes me sad and I just wish

693
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: like most people could live to like one hundred years

694
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: old at least.

695
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: Dying definitely as a drag.

696
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that. Pull the story, but.

697
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: Definitely med school. You're like, don't want to be doing surgery,

698
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: don't want to think about death. Yeah, definitely. I'm glad

699
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: you did stay in med school. But did I clock

700
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: though your parents both passed away before you were twenty one?

701
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: Correct? Man?

702
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: So who has become Who have you leaned on for guidance?

703
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you've had mentorship and like those

704
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: parental or nurturing figures in your life?

705
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Oh, throughout my whole journey that I've had mentors. When

706
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I was sixteen and a half at Credit Speak, my

707
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: first mentor was mister McConaughey, and he was in his

708
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: like sixties, and he sigmented his winging Irish broke amazing,

709
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: and he told me everything he knew about the finance game.

710
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: By the time I was nineteen, I had an Italian

711
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: person who was teaching everything he knew about real estate

712
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: and then he introduced me to this the coolest Jewish

713
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: attorney who thence ut teking about the real estate legal

714
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: side of things. Then, you know, So throughout my whole journey,

715
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: I've always had mentors, and myself personally speaking, even right

716
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: now as we speak, I have some of the best

717
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: mentors in the game. So, but I also believe in

718
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: multiple mentors. What I mean by that is like I

719
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: have a business mentor. I have a person who's my

720
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: mentor when it comes to things like I want to

721
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: have an egot, which is an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony.

722
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: So I have people that I know who have Grammary's,

723
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: Oscars and Tony's, and maybe not the whole egot, but

724
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: they might have like, oh, this person has like twelve

725
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: Emmys and has been nominated thirty some some times I

726
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: have conversations with her.

727
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: Right I have a mentor.

728
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: He's just about love and life and relationships, you know,

729
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: and helping me navigate what does that look like then,

730
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: how to not be too masculine a relationship, and how

731
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: to be soft and feminine to show up in that space.

732
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: I have a therapist. I have mentorship when it comes

733
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: to how does it look like to be a mom.

734
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: And I have a friend of mine who's like a

735
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: super mom, Like she's amazing.

736
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Speaker 3: And so sometimes when.

737
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Speaker 1: My son does something that is cheeky and I'm just

738
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: like this little boys trying my patients, I'll call.

739
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: Him like, how do you handle when he's snippy?

740
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: Because now he's going through puberty and he's pubescent and

741
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: thinks that he can talk back and you know, And

742
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: then she gives me like little tips. And I have

743
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: male and female mentors, and there's no race to it,

744
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: there's no age to it. I have people who like

745
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: one of my favorite mentors, he's eighty years old. Last year,

746
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: I was in workaholic mode and he said the most

747
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: iconic thing to me. He said, I just turned eighty

748
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: and he's like, my children are angry, and he's like,

749
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: and I'm leaving all my wealth to them, and I

750
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: barely enjoyed my wealth. And when he said that, I remember,

751
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: it hit me so hard to my core. And he

752
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: was like, the only thing I would have done different

753
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: in my life is I would have enjoyed my wealth too. Yes,

754
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: And that was a pivotal moment for me because this

755
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: person who I always looked at from the outside of

756
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: this beautiful home and the yachts and this and that,

757
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm very conservative. I don't own my

758
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: own yacht. So there's times that I co invested in

759
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: the yacht with someone and I sometimes I want to

760
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: go on a boat and I just want to take

761
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: my yacht for three months and be on the water,

762
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: but I can't do that because I share it with somebody.

763
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: And you know, he was just having these conversations.

764
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: About which is wealth for the Bok line and wealth

765
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: is really for him being able to own his own

766
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: time and enjoy what he the heart or his more favors.

767
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: And it was pivotal for me. So I think mentorship

768
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: has been a very big go to for me. And

769
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Speaker 1: you know, I say, in the beginning, sometimes I didn't

770
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: have money to afford somebody's business mentors, but there was

771
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: always something that a skill that I have, I was

772
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: building a website or writing an article or something that

773
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: I can say, I can't afford your price. But when

774
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: I got to the point where I could afford the

775
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: person's price, I would never insult somebody's intelligence and not

776
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: pay them what they were Someone says, hey, I would

777
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: love to mentor you, but this price. Once I had

778
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: that money, I also would make that as an investment

779
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: and included that in my budget, although now my mentors

780
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: are since.

781
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: That's interesting because there is that there are mentors that

782
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: come into your life organically, and that there's no price

783
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: other than time, you know. But then you have there

784
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: is the paid mentorship, like the paid and there is

785
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: a time and a place for that. But I love

786
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: that you mentioned being scrappy and creative and bartering with

787
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: skills and just having something of value to offer. But

788
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: then when you get to the point where you can

789
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: pay for those services, if there's someone who's like selling

790
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: those you know, selling that expertise, then you can do

791
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: that as well, and you must. I wonder if you

792
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 2: think about that. Now we're gonna definitely going to open

793
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: up the chapter of your entrepreneurship journey. But now I imagine

794
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people want you to be their mentors.

795
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such an interesting space because now the last

796
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: three four years, I've been mentoring more and I like

797
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: to only take on mentors that mentees that I can

798
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: learn from. So that's my angle because you spend so

799
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: much time on top of these people, and also mentees

800
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: who are not going to be a certain level of

801
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: need for me because I'm not the person to be

802
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: on the phone with your other day. It's just not

803
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: mymo it's just not me. So when I look at mentees,

804
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I look at people who want to be mentored by

805
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: people who are self sufficient. I like self sufficiency. I

806
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: love people who are going to work harder for themselves,

807
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: and I'm working for them.

808
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: You know.

809
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: I've had experiences when the beginning of my mentorship journey

810
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: where I was mentoring people where I realized that I

811
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: would tell them what to do, run the play for them,

812
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: and they'd want me to literally pick up the ball

813
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: run across the field for them too, And I'm like,

814
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: this is your life.

815
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: So I'm very big on like, don't expect.

816
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: Me to do the work for you. You have to

817
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: be willing to do the work. I'll teach you everything

818
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: I know. I'm not going to be close first advice it.

819
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: But what can I learn from me? Can you teach

820
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: me something? Can you spend on Instagram algorithm, a TikTok

821
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: or something? What can you seek to me? And then

822
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: on top of that, are you willing to do the work?

823
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: Am I wasting my time in talking to someone who's

824
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: just going to be in one air at the other?

825
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: I really feel that, you know, I've been coaching for

826
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: a number of years now, almost five years and like

827
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: full time, and I've had a couple of different versions

828
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: of my Most of my coaching is around it's all

829
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: around career negotiation for professional women. And I have like

830
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: a group community where we do every other week group

831
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: coaching and it's like a very supportive but you know what,

832
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: you know, when it's it's forty seven bucks a month,

833
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: it's not a huge financial burden. And I wanted it

834
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: to be that way. I wanted it to be affordable

835
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: and attainable for like mid level career women. But I

836
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: realized I was attracting people to that community who weren't

837
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: going to be executing on the like the knowledge and

838
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: the tips and stuff. And as a coach, I had

839
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: to learn how to sort of like distance myself from

840
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: that expectation and like because I would want to be

841
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: so invested, but then that would require more time, more

842
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: value from me. But the feeling of not being reciprocated

843
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: from the person that I'm trying to help it became,

844
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: and I guess in the beginning it was frustrating, but

845
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: then I just kind of like, I was like, you

846
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: know what, You've just got to leave it at the door.

847
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: Your team has to be willing to do their role,

848
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: if someone's a quarterback, someone's whatever position you're playing. And

849
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm a bit sports person, but so maybe that's why

850
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing a football American football analogy.

851
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: But my thing is.

852
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: No matter what if that's if I play for let's

853
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: say let's say I play for the Dolphins and you

854
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: play for the Rams. I'm not supposed to be helping

855
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: the Rams get the ball into the hole. My goal

856
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: is as a Dolphins player to make sure my team wins. Right,

857
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: My focus is me. Now, if we're friends, maybe on

858
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: the sidelines. I could play a game or two with you,

859
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: we could practice together, we can improve our skills with

860
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: each other because we're friends. But when it's time for

861
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: the game and the end of the day, I shouldn't

862
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: have to go pick up the ball on your side

863
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: and bring the ball all the way to your net

864
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: to make you do a touchdown. I can't help you win.

865
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: And the day your life is to play. You're your

866
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: own team. And that's where I think sometimes people mess up.

867
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: They want someone to come and become their team and

868
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: take over their whole life story, and I'm like, it

869
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: doesn't work.

870
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: You can't expect someone else.

871
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to pay a lot more for that, Like.

872
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 3: I mean, you can.

873
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: And even then, that's not the job role that I

874
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: want to do. I don't want that job.

875
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, at what point do you go back to school

876
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: to get your PhD and neuropsychology of all things?

877
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

878
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: So I created you Financially your organization called Kiittubank twenty

879
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: sixteen technically.

880
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: Was like the first year that it was really around

881
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen. I had my son.

882
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen, I created kidtu Bank, so you financial youcy book,

883
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: and as I started to go into the schools of

884
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: that curriculum, I realized a lot of youth and adults

885
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: were saying things that were very like self sabotaging, like oh,

886
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: I'll never be a millionaire, and I'll probably just if

887
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm lucky, you get a job at McDonald's, And I'm

888
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: just like, why is that your biggest goal?

889
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: And why do you think that's all you're going to

890
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: amount to?

891
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: And so I just wanted to understand that mind frame

892
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: around that, and I just I decided I had the credit,

893
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I had the points I did to figure out what

894
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: I was going to do, and ended up going back

895
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: to school for that. And so being in that environment,

896
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: it allows me to learn a lot about just you know,

897
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: precognitive issues, just the fact that a lot of financial

898
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: issues have led to depression of different issues, mental issues,

899
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: mental health problems, and that just deepened my life and

900
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: my passion for helping people.

901
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: So five years after that, you know, it took about.

902
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: Five years, and I remember the there's this conference call

903
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: invest Best and the first year of investment was the

904
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: year that I actually graduated for the first time with

905
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: my PG and I graduated during COVID and investments happened

906
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: right after COVID, And so what ended up happening was

907
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: like the first time I ever had someone say doctor

908
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: just Holly relative. I was being introduced on stage at

909
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: the first ever invest Best and you know, it was

910
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: amazing because like four thousand people, and it was the

911
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: first time I spoke at a crowd for.

912
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: Four thousand people.

913
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: Now like years later, I'm like thirty forty fifty thousand

914
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: people in a room, and I'm like, it's like my

915
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: second nature. But it's because it was a very beautiful

916
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: part of my journey because I needed to go back

917
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: to understand how can I help people better? And now

918
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: with the knowledge that I've gained, we do workshops of

919
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: like athletes, high level of CFOs and CEOs and execs.

920
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: And just people from different hind network individuals.

921
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: And what ends up happening in that journey is what

922
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: I've learned is that we things like survivors guilt kind

923
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: of not use money as a coping mechanism. How to

924
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: put your family on a budget, how to invest in stocks,

925
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: and cryptoified emotions or with less emotions, and these are

926
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: all things that are mental and financial health bridges that

927
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: most people never think about well.

928
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: I recently did an interview with a financial therapist and

929
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: that space is like, it's so obvious that there is

930
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: a link there. How do you incorporate both the mental

931
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: health psychology, the psychological side of the work that you

932
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: do with the financial side of it, and how do

933
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: you help the I don't know if this is people

934
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: that you are I mean, because right now I don't

935
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: exactly You're not really consumer facing with your work, are you,

936
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: because you're like an angel investor. You're trying to get

937
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: this egot, so you're not like in the trenches coaching

938
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 2: and I am I'll.

939
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: Never I'm always wanted to be like I just did,

940
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Like the other day, I spoke, I did a workshop

941
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: for ny Black MBA. I do workshops. I just speaking engagements,

942
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: I do keynotes. I do have mentees. Right now, I

943
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: also have five hundred and nine employees in seven countries.

944
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: A lot has changed. My finance curriculum now.

945
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: Is to support to the eighty nine schools completed around the world,

946
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, So there's a lot of verticals that have happened.

947
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: So instead of being removing.

948
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: From my profile, what I do is I perfect and

949
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: then I hire a perfect team to preferably bring it

950
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: and leave it alive in the world, and then I

951
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: go on to my next passion project. So I have

952
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: multiple employees, and I have CEOs and CFOs, and I

953
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: have the CEOs and the people who help my day

954
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: to day work. The hardest thing was just learning how

955
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: to delegate and not obsessively be the one in charge

956
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: of everything. But that is where we are. With that,

957
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: I will say that it's been beautiful space, but I

958
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: don't take away. I just add most of the time, well,

959
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: this is something that I don't feel like to feeds

960
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: my higher purpose.

961
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: I had an idea of you like being an angel

962
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: investor and then you know, hopefully getting an exit from

963
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: one of the companies you've invested in and just kind

964
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: of like moving on along the way. You've either created

965
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: businesses that you've left standing, like with staff and with

966
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: an executive team. So how many different like what kinds

967
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: of businesses have those been? And where are they all?

968
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: How do you keep track of all that?

969
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: So excels, friends, sheets and apps are my best friends.

970
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: In country flud prins include in the UK, Ghana in particular,

971
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: and Ghana for instance, I co want a gold mine

972
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: that's doing very well, and that's been very healthy side

973
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: of a gold mine. You know, in the States I

974
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: have and in the UK and in Africa, I own

975
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: real estate, so that's the whole other vertical. My real

976
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: estate company is relying upon a cleaning company. I also

977
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: own a cleaning company that cleans their properties, and then

978
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: other people who have Airbnb sometimes use our property cleaners.

979
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: But most of my tennis are long term and it's

980
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: just the list he's going or have the finance curriculum.

981
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: We also have what we do in the mental and

982
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: financial health with neuropsychology. And then some of the angel

983
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: investment companies that I've invested in when I'm passionate about

984
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: them and I love them, I keep investing in them

985
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: as well, and mostly I might bring in more investors.

986
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: I might see it through till there is an exit.

987
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: And so the ones that are my passion projects, I

988
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: do that, and then the egot is a whole other

989
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: category because that's more like Oscars, Tonys and things of

990
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: that project. It's meeting those kind of people and figure

991
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: out what project want to invest in next and how

992
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: hands on am I going to be with them? And

993
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's been a very fun and cool journey,

994
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: to say the least.

995
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: At what point did you turn toward Africa to Ghana

996
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: and Kenya.

997
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: Well, I'm cap Verdian, so I'm Africa. So my mom

998
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 3: is full Kate Verdian.

999
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: My dad is Jamaican Italian, so culturally, my dad made

1000
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: sure I always knew about caba Verde in a country

1001
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: and understood the climate, and so for me that was

1002
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: always a beautiful thing. And so I was very hands

1003
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: on with knowing the continent. And I've been going there

1004
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: since I was a little kid, single digit, so I've

1005
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: always had a connection to the continent and whenever I

1006
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: made a sort amount of money, I always knew eventually

1007
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: I was going to want to go back there to

1008
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: own and to invest and things of that nature. And

1009
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: so that has been like a big part of for me,

1010
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: and it's been the best decision I could have made,

1011
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: because the tax structures are different. I love the people

1012
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: in Ghana, for instance, capa Verte, I will say that

1013
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: financially we don't make as I feel like Ghana's numbers

1014
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: are more US dollars and you get higher money for

1015
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: your rentals, And I will say caaba Verde's.

1016
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: The I still love the fact that, you know, I

1017
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 3: love the country.

1018
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: I love the way how beautiful it is, the connectivity

1019
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: to the people, and I love living on a continent

1020
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: or being in a continent where the people on my

1021
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: shade like shades of me right and seeing representations of

1022
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: me on all levels of success. So yeah, I've always

1023
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: had a relationship with the continent and I always go back,

1024
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: and you know, rather i'm in the UK or the US,

1025
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm always wrapping Africa.

1026
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: You also have a baby. Well, he's not a baby anymore. Sorry,

1027
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: he's almost He's almost in the tweens. Is he tween yet?

1028
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: Ten? Ten? He just turned ten, he's double digits. We're

1029
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: both pissy.

1030
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: So he turned ten in March and his whole thing

1031
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: for his ten birthday was he wanted to go outdoor skydiving,

1032
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: and I had to kind of talk him off the

1033
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: lunch and I was like, can we please try indoor first.

1034
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you're old enough to do.

1035
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: Out of a plane.

1036
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1037
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to know yet. I'm trying to push

1038
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: that ball as far down, you know. But we did

1039
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: do indoor skuy guide. He had an amazing time. I

1040
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: did have somebody tell me that it's supposed to think

1041
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: he could, and I was just like, I'm not gonna

1042
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: look into if that's right or not because I'm not

1043
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: ready for that. But outside of that, I'm so happy that,

1044
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: you know, he's such a beautiful child inside and out,

1045
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: and he's also financially aware, and he's very you know,

1046
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: he budgets and he he has his toys and he's

1047
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: the ones that he likes, but he purchases most of them.

1048
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: He earns them. He cleans up his toys and he

1049
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: earns it. And if you come to my house, my

1050
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: house is very like white color wise, like white carpet,

1051
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: white couch, and you know, it's clean, and.

1052
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: He cleans up after himself and it's beautiful to be

1053
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: in our space. So for a little one who's very

1054
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: financially aware.

1055
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 2: I just love when your little accent slips out. How

1056
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: do you so you but you have like an American

1057
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: or like what is the accent?

1058
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: So it's ninety's ninety percent Manchester from Manchester, England. So

1059
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: I think a lot of American people think that when

1060
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: you're from England, you're gonna sound like hypo. When I

1061
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: get excited, I might sound like I'm from London, which

1062
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: is what most Americans will call and I'm a British accent.

1063
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: And so although I do try to dumb down the

1064
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Manchester a little bit, there's certain words that no matter what,

1065
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: I can't say, like I don't know how to say

1066
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: like project, like I can't say the other way, and

1067
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: there's words like water that I can't say like an

1068
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: American to save my life. There's just no ding it.

1069
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: My brain is not compute. And when I say, I

1070
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: say water and it sounds bad, but I just yeah,

1071
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: and it s like what you just said that was

1072
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: like a London accent, Like when you say like that

1073
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: as like were in London, but coming from me from Manchester,

1074
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: we say water. And so to an American person sometimes

1075
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: they'd be like, well, what kind of American accent is that?

1076
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: And You're like, I, actually no, it's just a Mancunian

1077
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: accent from Manchester.

1078
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: It's just more so. But then there's words like sot.

1079
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: That you know if I'm if you get me excited enough,

1080
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: like when I talk about my little one. Because the

1081
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: last ten years I've been doing work in London, you'll

1082
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: hear a lot of like you'll hear more, or if

1083
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: you get me tired. If I if I'm sleepy, I

1084
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: literally sound like something from a movie like Harry Paul

1085
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: and I sound like.

1086
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: Off the boat. And I don't make it.

1087
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: I don't know a Southern accent. If I get around

1088
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: my family or I'm very tired or I'm very excited,

1089
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: it comes out.

1090
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: My favorite Southern word is when I'm in Louisiana and

1091
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: they go, babe, oh my god, it is my thing.

1092
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: Like you know, as a British person, the British accent

1093
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: does nothing for me, doesn't turn me on. It's just

1094
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: like wave. But my favorite accent probably the Southern accent

1095
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: for men. I think it's the sex you want.

1096
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: My aunt friend did to call you anytime she can

1097
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: give you a little, a little dose.

1098
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: I love it. Let me tell you.

1099
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: I have a friend of mine, one of my close friends.

1100
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: She's from Louisiana. But she gets excited, she starts to talk.

1101
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: When she gets sleepy, she says things and I just

1102
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: crack up. Her and one of my friends from Mississippi,

1103
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: and you know, you know it's sometimes the things that

1104
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: they say. I just be like, like one time I

1105
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: was talking to her and her uncle said, no, you know,

1106
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: they've been murdered for a three years. I said, murdered

1107
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: if they died. He's like, no, murd and I'm like,

1108
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: what is murd And my friend was like married and

1109
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, but it was just it's beautiful.

1110
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: To me, I will say, I go down the rabbit hole.

1111
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: The Southern accent is one of my favorites, and the

1112
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: New York accent is probably my second favorite.

1113
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: Hate. New York accents don't get me started.

1114
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: Really, I think it's cute, Like I think, like when

1115
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: I there's certain ones.

1116
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: I won't say New York.

1117
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: I say that this one is a little bit aggressive

1118
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: to me. You know what, I don't mind that one

1119
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: as much, you know the one I don't like. I

1120
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: was and I'm Kate Verdian and there's a lot of

1121
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: us there, but it's the Boston when they have the

1122
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: very like part of car. I don't understand it. It's

1123
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: hard for me to understand. So like it was like

1124
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: the woman.

1125
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: Was talking, She's like, oh, I'm like, what did she say?

1126
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: It was like being with a baby brick from London

1127
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: that didn't know any like, you know, I was I

1128
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: speak the Queen's English.

1129
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: What you was doing right now is just foreign, uh,

1130
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, and it's funny.

1131
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: I could understand Irish people and Scottish people, but that

1132
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Boston accent sometimes a strong.

1133
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: I just love accents in general.

1134
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: You know.

1135
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm a Love Island dork and I only I really

1136
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: watched the UK version, so that's when I first started

1137
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: learning about all the dialects. It's such a good education.

1138
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 3: Okay, don't judge me.

1139
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: I have yet to see not one episode about and

1140
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 1: I'm so horrible with TV.

1141
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: And now multimillionaire not a multimillionaire. I got time that

1142
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: you're losing my way and the trade off is that

1143
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: I'm not making your millions of dollars in traveling in

1144
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: the world.

1145
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're gonna have a multimillionaire.

1146
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna take the time from Love Island and focus

1147
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: on your brand and your business or whatever you want

1148
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: to make it.

1149
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: Because you know those seasons the Love Island UK, it's

1150
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: like eighty episodes, it was, but that was I.

1151
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: Thought it was that many episodes.

1152
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: Wow, people complain about the US. People are obsessed with

1153
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: the US the US version now, but it's like twenty episodes,

1154
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, no, no, you don't understand. They

1155
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: would have episodes every day for the entire summer. It

1156
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 2: was nuts. But that was my pandemic. And you will, yeah, babes,

1157
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: and watch all of it had toys.

1158
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: You know that. You completely just messed my head up.

1159
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: I can't believe you were watching a head You know me,

1160
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: but this is a little thing.

1161
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 2: You watch the first ten minutes, you get the recap

1162
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 2: from last week's show, and then you fast forward through

1163
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: the middle, and then you watch the last ten minutes

1164
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: and usually that's where the interesting stuff happens.

1165
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: Okay, you just lost me. You just lost me. All right,

1166
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: let's get off a lot, islan. Let's get back to by.

1167
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: Never ever, ever waste your time going back and watching

1168
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 2: any of it. Don't don't do that.

1169
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: I will say one thing, Okay, I will say there

1170
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: is one show that I want to finish bringe watching

1171
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: because I've never finished it, and I kind of did the.

1172
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: Wrong thing and my friend yelled at me for it.

1173
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: I have never finished Game of Thrones.

1174
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: And I watched the beginning and then I went all

1175
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: the way to the end because I just want to

1176
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: see what the monsters was like, and I was just.

1177
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: So I never said like the Red Dinner and all

1178
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 3: these crazy things.

1179
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: And what I will say is that I would fast

1180
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: forward it all the way to winter because I just

1181
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: got tired of them saying that winter was.

1182
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: Coming, Winter was coming. There was no winter. It was here.

1183
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: I'm watching this rubbish normal. No, there's no winter. So

1184
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: my friends are like cheating. The monsters are here, the

1185
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: winter is here. I was like, oh, I gotta see this.

1186
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: And so on one of my long flights or wherever

1187
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 1: the UK web I was going back home to maybe

1188
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: I was going on my way to Portugal.

1189
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: I just like on my way to Portugal. Back to Portugal,

1190
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: I started.

1191
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: Binge watching all the episodes and I finally got to

1192
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: see the monsters and I watched them do what they

1193
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: do and it was phenomenal. And I was like, Oh,

1194
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: there's dragons, there's monsters, there's everything. That's what I'm a

1195
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm more of a lord of the rings kind of person.

1196
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh, don't scrunch your cute old nose up. That's fine.

1197
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: I know people judge you for that. I feel like,

1198
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: you know, I'm more like, as.

1199
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: This is a no judgment, you know what, as I'm

1200
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: thinking I want to go back and put some love on.

1201
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: Like it's not like you either watch reality TV or

1202
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: you're a millionaire. Like you're not trash or a multimillionaire,

1203
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: Like you can have both. Michelle Obama loves real housewives.

1204
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: Let me just say that for the rect heard. She

1205
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: loves a real housewife. She loves all that love and basketball.

1206
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 2: So there's no everyone who needs their outlet. Everyone needs

1207
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: like their reprieve.

1208
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, my reprieve was traveling. I love to jump on

1209
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: the I just need beach, I need son, I need

1210
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: I need blue waters, I need pool. Like that's to me,

1211
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: my reprieve. That's that's how I really unline. And so

1212
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: when my brain is down, I'm just dealing with human

1213
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: beings all the time. And like I'm a geek, so

1214
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: I like watching sports. So like if you really want

1215
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: to not see me, but you want to see me

1216
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: glue to a TV, it's during Super Bowl season, like

1217
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: especially if you start to dink her down. Girl, I'm

1218
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: American football guy. I came from Europe. So when eurofootball

1219
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: became more dramatic where they started throwing themselves on the

1220
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: floor and getting flags, and they basically were like, oh

1221
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: he hit me, and I'd be like the god dam

1222
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: and kick you like what you did. When that started happening,

1223
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: it made me kind of not like it as much.

1224
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: But I always like sports.

1225
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: And are you talking about soccer?

1226
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: Say yeah, you're a football is so kind Okay, So

1227
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: when I started happening in euro football, I was like

1228
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: And then I always liked boxing. I grew up like

1229
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: watching boxing, so like Muhammadadi is one of my favorite

1230
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, the cash is Clay of the world is

1231
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: to me amazing, sugar ray and people like that. I

1232
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: grew up watching boxing and euro football and a little

1233
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: bit of American football and then basketball. I was a

1234
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: big Fab five fan. So being raised by a man.

1235
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: I was raised by a man my whole life and

1236
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: my older brother at one point, so being around them

1237
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: mainly and met all that it made me a sound word.

1238
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know how to explain it, but I

1239
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: grew up in sports, and when one sport just wasn't

1240
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: doing it for me anymore, American football was still like

1241
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: I loved watching people get tackled and stuff, and you know.

1242
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: It's your team, then how do you pick a team?

1243
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: So because I have clients who are multiple teams now.

1244
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: I no longer will publicly say who my team.

1245
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 3: Is, Okay, yeah, because I you know, like I've.

1246
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Had clients who are playing MU super people now and

1247
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: things like that, so I don't want.

1248
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: Them to be like really, Jay, really really, So I

1249
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 3: don't have your clients.

1250
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: So what do you do? Yeah? So how do you

1251
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: work with people at.

1252
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: That neuropsychology, mental and financial health? So we'll have sometimes

1253
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: we even on the financial liriacy side, the wives and girlfriends.

1254
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: We have a project called from Burke into buildings for

1255
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: the for the husbands themselves.

1256
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: We talk part of this expressions.

1257
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah wags, wives and girlfriends of athletes, for the actual

1258
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: men themselves.

1259
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: We sit down and we go over a lot of things.

1260
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: We go over everything from living trusts and art and

1261
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: high key kids use art to build wealth for this continue.

1262
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 3: And I'm not a wealth manager, so I don't manage

1263
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 3: your money for them.

1264
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: I had no desire to do that. Again, we come

1265
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: in and we do workshops. We have conversations around nils

1266
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: with them. We teach them how to protect them their brands.

1267
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: And then we talked about, you know, the financial aspect

1268
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: of not having survivors built and things of that nature,

1269
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: and when they need somebody to really hold their hand

1270
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: and actually do it for them, you have a ferral.

1271
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: So you are sort of like that financial therapist but

1272
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: for ultra high net worth kind of clientele. And what

1273
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: I love that though, because it's it's so helpful. I

1274
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: feel like the a family if you're listening, like even

1275
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: uber wealthy people need the basics and are using money

1276
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: as a coping mechanism and like.

1277
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: A survivor's guilds and feel bad and want to help

1278
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: everyone from the hood and want to go buy everybody

1279
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: in their family a car and a mansion.

1280
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: But it's like your contract.

1281
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: Is stipulated on you being able to play, and if

1282
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: something happens to you, guess what that family might not

1283
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: be able to maintain all of that.

1284
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: And the list continues.

1285
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: When you go down a rabbit hole and you realize

1286
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: that oftentimes you might actually work yourself into the coorhouse.

1287
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah so, but yeah, so that's a nutshell.

1288
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 2: In a nutshell, Okay, but I brought up your little

1289
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: boy because I wondered where's his citizenship? Like where is

1290
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: he like triple citizen double?

1291
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: Like we're so he's currently double and he's about to

1292
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: have gone in as well.

1293
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: So he goes with you wherever mommy goes. Is he

1294
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: how being on the plane with you?

1295
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes he's in daddy's mode. And when he's with

1296
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: daddy mode, I let him stay with his dad. But

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Speaker 1: whenever he My son's very he's now at this age

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Speaker 1: where he's self sufficient, so he's also very bougie. So

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Speaker 1: if it's not, if there's no beach involved, he's like, Okay, mommy,

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Speaker 1: you can go. I'll see you when you come back.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, tell me about this egot thing. So

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Speaker 2: want to be like bloody vegan or no, what is it,

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00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: sludy vegan lady or no, it's the There's a woman

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Speaker 2: from Housewives who's like a producer of a Broadway show

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: And she's yeah, that's funny. I just heard about her.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Candy. She's to be part of a

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Speaker 1: women's R and B group back in the day, or maybe.

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Speaker 2: She is for us? Yes, okay, got it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, So what's interesting about it is one of

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Speaker 1: my friends recently just mentioned her to me. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so the egot thing for me is I love. I

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Speaker 1: think it's so important that we are controlling the narrative

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Speaker 1: around our stories. And as a person who's as an

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Speaker 1: angel investor, I do know sometimes there are people with

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Speaker 1: the story that is beautiful, but we need to be

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Speaker 1: able to tell that story. And so to be in

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Speaker 1: a position where I could maybe tell this story now,

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Speaker 1: it's so important to me.

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Speaker 3: So I want to be able to storytell in.

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Speaker 1: A way that's not just only about black and brown,

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Speaker 1: but just really about humanizing our stories as individuals period,

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Speaker 1: and if it can be social impact as well, even better.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I'm met in my life, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I figured what better challenge ses there's only I thing

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Speaker 1: about ten black women, maybe nine or ten, including Jennifer Hudson,

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Speaker 1: who have an egot.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'd love.

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Speaker 1: To be a part of that exclusive community, and it's

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Speaker 1: all about storytelling for me, social impact and storytelling.

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Speaker 2: Well, I love that. I mean as a storyteller myself,

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Speaker 2: and my brother's actually a filmmaker who works in AI

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Speaker 2: and tech and we are I mean, he's making his

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Speaker 2: films and it's wonderful and I'm really excited to hear that.

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Speaker 2: I also feel like a creative outlet at this stage

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Speaker 2: when you've been focused on the zeros and ones, like

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Speaker 2: you said, for so long, must because I've always.

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Speaker 3: Been that person. I've always loved finance.

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Speaker 1: I've always loved the creative aspect, so to find and

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Speaker 1: being in a position where i could do that.

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Speaker 3: Again, it feels really cool.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've always loved the arts, like Alvin Ailey

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Speaker 1: and I. You know, I grew up with the arts

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Speaker 1: and going to Afro ballet performances, going to the opera

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Speaker 1: of my dad.

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Speaker 3: You know, my dad used to bring me to like

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Speaker 3: the opera.

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Speaker 1: I remember the Phantom of the Operations one of my favorite,

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Speaker 1: and then you know it would evolve and so just

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Speaker 1: being a part of that world. And I remember going

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Speaker 1: to see the Four Tenors of my dad, like Plus

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Speaker 1: Domingo and people like that and loving that. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: I feel like if I'm able to put things like

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00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 1: that into this world, it would be really cool part

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Speaker 1: of my evolution.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: We will stay tuned for you to join Vio Viola Davis,

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Hudson. I don't know if Viola was there yet,

1359
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Speaker 2: but it'll be the yacht. It'll be them and Jitalie Bellentin,

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Speaker 2: Audrey McDonald, Jitalie Bellatin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, doctor J. Let's make it happen, all right.

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Speaker 2: So where can BA fan find you if they want

1363
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: to learn more and follow you for all of your

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: incredible work.

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00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: You can follow me on Instagram, LinkedIn Twitter. I predominantly

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00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: use Instagram LinkedIn I'm starting to use a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: And it's just how well J A t A l

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Speaker 1: I B E L l A N t O N.

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Speaker 1: And on Instagram, my page is verified, so I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear that someone asks you for money because

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Speaker 1: Doctor J does not reach into anybody's DMS, and ask

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Speaker 1: for money does be very clear. And but yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a verified page, and please feel free to come follow me,

1374
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Speaker 1: and if you came over from the show, definitely send

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Speaker 1: a message and be like.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I came over for Brown Ambition.

1377
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: Let him know your BA fan I am. I'm so

1378
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: happy that our paths have crossed again. Hopefully they will

1379
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: more often, even though that's fine though, because some people

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Speaker 2: I see more often who don't live in the same

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Speaker 2: state as me. So it's fine. You're just moving, just

1382
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: moving forty minutes down the road, you know that far.

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Speaker 3: And how you have an excuse to coming to the city.

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Speaker 2: Which I love and I need all the time, Doctor

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Speaker 2: Jitylie Bellington, thank you so much for joining Brown Ambition

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Speaker 2: BA fan. Please go follow her on all platforms. Put

1387
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: a link to all of your things in the show notes,

1388
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: and good luck on all of your endeavors and all

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Speaker 2: of the people you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm so looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 3: you again and in person.