1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Weedian Howse has met the two year mark and is 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: closely approaching to a three year mark. When I created 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: this podcast over two years ago, my aim was to 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: educate and uplift these stories of unhoused people in various 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: stations in Los Angeles as well as around the world. 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: To this end, the quest continues. Many people who have 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: listened to my episodes or have tried to listen to 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: my episodes or look at my episodes, they come back 9 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: with different responses, some positive and some clueless and some 10 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: house driven. And I wanted to point out some of 11 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: the major issues in the episodes that needs to be 12 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: looked at second look. So I felt that it was 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: apropos for me to create the top five episodes to 14 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: focus on a lengthy two year I guess run and 15 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: this episode was our episode twenty six and we aired 16 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: this in June fifteenth, twenty twenty. Chayla is a multi 17 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: talented activist that is for human rights as well as 18 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: trends rights. She's also in a band and I truly 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: strongly encourage you. She definitely has made her voice and 20 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: her presence known. Chayla Coleman is an interview that I 21 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: find was very educational insightful, and I can encourage you 22 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: to listen in and get her insights on how she 23 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: has survived and coped in this hostel world. So you 24 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: were saying about the avergent therapy. You moved back to 25 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: your home. What happened? Why did you move? I moved 26 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: back home because first and foremost, I went home for 27 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: just a vacation. And at first and then my family 28 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: orn dire, they needed me. My sister got arrested. My Yeah, 29 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: my sister got arrested. My mom was dealing with health issues, 30 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: and my sister had the time have four kids. So 31 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: I kind of had to step up and be the aunt, 32 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: you know, and I couldn't be who I was living 33 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: out there and doing that. And then my sister got 34 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: out and I was like, I need to do things 35 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: for my own life. So I moved back here and 36 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: lived in a place but also going attending LACC and 37 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: through serious of events, I got kicked out of that 38 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: place because they found out that I was queer. And yeah, 39 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: how did you cope with it? Because how did I cope? 40 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: At first? I was, I mean, I was on survival mode. 41 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to keep trying to go to school. The 42 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: thing is, when I came to LACC, I found a 43 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: group of friends who were just really they allowed me 44 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: to be me. Like at first I'd be like, pretend 45 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: to be a straight man, and they'd be like we no, no, 46 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: we don't think you are, you know, And then I'm like, yeah, 47 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: I am, Praise Jesus. You know, back then I was 48 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: in the Christianity. I was not knocking anybody's faith. But 49 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm no longer Christian. But back then I was super 50 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: Christian and trying to live both, you know. And then 51 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: sooner or later, the feelings started coming off. And then 52 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I started realizing that I wasn't a man, that I 53 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: am a woman, that I've always felt this way. And 54 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: then the friends that I had were like, we knew 55 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: at the moment we met you. And then I met 56 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: a train into women who I actually became housemates with. It. Yeah, 57 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: so when I got kicked out of that place, I 58 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: actually moved directly into this woman's house and I was 59 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of like her caretaker. She had a bunch of 60 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: underlying health issues, some mental issues as well, mental illness 61 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: issues as well, And yeah, there was a lot of 62 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: ship that happened between us, a lot of things that 63 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: happened between us. Sorry, I have a big potty mouth. 64 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: And I became homeless again. How did that? How did 65 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: they make you feel? Because I know when they second 66 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: time I became on the street that this was like 67 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: the time I was like, I was definitely like, how 68 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: am I going to survive? What do I need to do? 69 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Like it was hard, It was definitely hard. And then 70 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: and I'm going to fast forward it a little bit 71 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: until the last time I became I was homeless. The 72 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: last time, which was my last time becoming homeless was 73 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: because I lived at a place that was temporary. The 74 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: guy was like stay here. It was very much similar 75 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: to where I live here where you can't have a guest. 76 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: You can't have a guest for more than two months. Wow, 77 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't have a guest for more than 78 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: like if someone I can't have someone staying with me 79 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: because it's subsidized, right, And like I had no friend 80 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: like that. Like my friends that were like supportive in 81 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: one way, they all lived with their parents, so they 82 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: couldn't support me. You know. I had one friend who 83 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: was like lived right down the street from the LACC. 84 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: She was like, you could stay with me so I 85 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: stayed with her for a few months. Then I stayed 86 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: with another dude for a few months, and then after 87 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: that I got kicked out, like asked to leave, and 88 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: I kicked out right, and it was cold. It was 89 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: during the Christmas season, so I went back. I didn't 90 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: actually go back home. I went to live with my 91 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: cousins who ended up pitting me in their garage. And 92 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: it's cold in LA, but where I'm from, in the 93 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Heigh Desert, it's colder. It snows there some time. So 94 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: I would be like, I felt like they treated me 95 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: like shit. So I was like, maybe I should just 96 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: go back to LA and go back to LACC and 97 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: try to finish getting my degree. Just focus on shit 98 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: I need to do. I remember watching this documentary when 99 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: I was a student and like in between houses, and 100 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: it was about skid row and about folks in skid row, 101 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, and I remember someone saying on 102 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: there that like they didn't start doing drugs or being 103 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: an alcoholic until lady came home, right, very true. I 104 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: was before I'm gonna be real, I was never I 105 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: didn't smell weed. I didn't I hardly drink, like maybe 106 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: drink on my birthday and on how you know. But 107 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: when I became homeless, that's when I started drinking. You know, 108 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be instant. Uh, the 109 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: echo jack for you? Did you? Because I noticed, like 110 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: because I interviewed cutting the cutters like that, did you? 111 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: I started cutting? I started cutting when I was fourteen, 112 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: the real, honest to God's truth. Uh. I was hanging 113 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: out with a bunch of goths and punks and people 114 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: that thought they were vampires. And then there was this 115 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: hot guy that came over and he wanted to drink 116 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: my blood and I thought he was and there was 117 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: a razor planes I was like, here and it's a 118 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: very sexual thing, let's be real. And but I noticed 119 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: the feeling I got from cutting. It's like it's kind 120 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: of like why people get tattoos, Like I got tattoos 121 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: now or piercings. You know, it's the same thing. It's 122 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: like there's actually a scientific reason because when there's a pain, 123 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: it really sense a chemical in your body that numbs 124 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: you to other ship and really, since endorphins, it's kind 125 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: of like sex. Okay, Okay, yeah, I mean why do 126 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: you think people do it? Just like why do you 127 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: think people are tatted it up. It's it's like being real. 128 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: I stopped cutting when I got my first tattoo and 129 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: that was just last year. Yeah, like because it's the same, 130 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: it's the same feeling, you know, I mama and so yeah, 131 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: So getting back to the story, I you know, I 132 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: didn't have no and back then I started getting involved 133 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: with this this group called Jenner Justice LA, which they 134 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: are They're in LA and they're based They seek to 135 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: talk about the issues that trans women specifically trans women 136 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: of color, well, trans people as a whole, but trans 137 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: women of color specifically go through. Just to let you know, 138 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: just I do believe that there's an edge a line 139 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: of different classism and like supremacy, but it does add 140 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: to your oppressions the more you have, Like if you're disabled, 141 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: you have more oppression. If you're someone that has some felonies, 142 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: you have more of a nopression. If there's if you're 143 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: somebody that's uh had ties to a gang, or you 144 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: have a Muslim name, you have more of a noppression, 145 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: right or Like I want to answer used from the 146 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: perspective because people forget I could be black and straight 147 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: and housed, but I am black straight and on housed, 148 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: and I still have a different dimension, just like one 149 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: of my friends I was mentioning earlier about she's queer, 150 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: but she's un housed. She could still be queer, but 151 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: on house. There's a new dimension to the challenge, especially 152 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: because nowhere is safe for transcuber people nowhere, So like 153 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: I was going to tell you, and black women have 154 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: higher rate of transqueer being killed exactly, I'm just going 155 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: to say that every every thirty two hours are transferred 156 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: to it's murder, and specifically even in the COVID era, 157 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: which I was like, when COVID shut down everything, I thought, 158 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: at lease, there will not be any murder. Yes, a 159 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: lot of trans women of color and puttoo rico in 160 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: in Brazil and vehicle like they're they're getting murdered. And 161 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: and that's only because we know about it, right, that's 162 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: only because people are talking about it. When usually when 163 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: they find our bodies and they look at our genitalia. 164 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Let's be real, weak based gender on genitalia, which is 165 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: not good. They oh, this person is a man, so 166 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: a man died, right, versus like this person hearing their 167 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: stories from the people are like this person lived as 168 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: a woman they were a woman, or this person was 169 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: a man they lived at the man, or this person 170 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: didn't live as any gender. Right, So, like which is 171 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: a construct? Just like race, classes and race and gender 172 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: are all constructs. Okay, you don't know what it construct is, 173 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: look it up. There's no difference between all three of 174 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: us when it comes to our ethnicity at the table, right, 175 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: there is a difference in the way the world treats us. 176 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: So because we bought into that lot, right. So getting 177 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: back to my store, ill that m so like. So 178 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: I got involved and even they couldn't help me much 179 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: and it was just like I was like, what do 180 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: I do? Then? So I was like and then one 181 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: night I'm gonna be real, I was hanging out with 182 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: the person that was super privileged. Speaking of being black, 183 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: I used to have a friend who was from Europe. 184 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: He was from Holland, he was black, he was gay. 185 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: His mom would send him five thousand dollars a month. 186 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: And I remember one night like, I was like, hey, 187 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: just let me go to your house just for that 188 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: night because it's super cold and in the morning I'll 189 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: go to a shelter and he was like no. I 190 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: remember him like sternly saying no. And I was like, 191 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: m and I was like, come on, please, just I mean, 192 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: it's really cold. You don't say if you're my friend, 193 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: why are you? Like I understand if your place is 194 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: a mess, you can go clean it and I'll meet you. 195 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Just tell me where it's at and I can walk there. 196 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. And they just sternly said no. And 197 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: like we sat there for two hours. Yes no, I 198 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: mean no, please, no, no, and I finally just was 199 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: like okay, fuck it. Oh well, so I stayed up 200 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: all night. I left him alone, stayed up all night, 201 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: and then I came to skid Row and I did 202 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: what I had to do to get myself in that program. 203 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real. When he said no, when he 204 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: would just say no, no, no, like, I was like why. 205 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: And there are some people I've had to say no too, 206 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: But it's because the rules. Here's be real. And number two, 207 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: I've had them in my place and some violence or 208 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: some things have happened and I just don't trust them, 209 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, So that's different. But yeah, So after that, 210 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: I just lived at that shelter, which was great. It 211 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: was great for me and in a lot of ways, 212 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: because I did find a little corner of black people 213 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: that I was super close with, started coming out of 214 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: my shell a lot more and than doing what I 215 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: needed to do to get here. And I got here 216 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: in the June of Tooth. I was in in twelve 217 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: and I've been thankful, but it's been like it's been 218 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: a it's been a mess in a lot of ways too. 219 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: So what propelled you to do uh, sorry, this bug? 220 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: What propelled you to do a metal band? A punk 221 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: in Okay? Yeah, so Black Battle even though they conversation, 222 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm in a band. Yeah, I like I 223 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: like all kinds of music. I do tend to go 224 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: lean more towards rock, but I like all kinds of music. 225 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm like beyond like Little Kim, I like Nickman. I 226 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: grew up on Black Street, I grew up on like Aja, 227 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, I grew up on Tama, Brandy, Monica, you 228 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: know all that good stuff. But I okay, I'll talk 229 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: about that. So one night I was dealing with some 230 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: mental health issues and I really wanted to cut me 231 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: and a friend had a fight. And this friend is 232 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: a trans woman like myself, and I was really I 233 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: looked up to her and so like, I was really 234 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: really sad, you know. And So I had a friend 235 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: who's also in an all black punk band called f 236 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: Like You Pay Us all black all FAMI, which means 237 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: non male a punk band called f Like You Pay Us. 238 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: One of them I'm really close with, and they told 239 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: me anytime I want to hang out, to hit them 240 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: up because I would post all on my Facebook anyone 241 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: want to hang out? Anyone want to hang out? And 242 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: like they're like they had just got this studio in Chinatown, 243 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, can I can I come over please? 244 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm I just had a fight with this person. 245 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to be alone. I'm drunk, and they're like, 246 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: let me see something. Five minutes later, I get a 247 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: text you can come through, and I was like great, 248 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: but I don't have any money to go, you know, 249 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: cause a boy. They're like, what's your address? Give them 250 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: my adjusting sentence for me and went to there. I 251 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: got there and I told them what happened. And I 252 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: was kind of sober up around that time, and they're like, 253 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: well you're this person said, Cella, you know how you 254 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: like to listen to rock music, Well tonight we're gonna 255 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: make rock music, and I'm like, I don't want to 256 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: do anything right now. I just want to cry and 257 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: drink some more. And so I sat on the couch 258 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: in the studio and actually, can I talk about for 259 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty years now? Yes, that's fine, gulate we were for 260 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: because someone educated us before. So for four twenty from 261 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: what I understand is the marijuana day of day. In 262 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: marijuana minute, celebrities go out and make a span. So yeah, 263 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: but I also like, meant just talk about we go ahead, 264 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: go ahead, let me do your thing. Okay, So I smoke. 265 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: I just so I smoked because the chronic pain and 266 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: it helps me sleep and I deal with then Tanya, 267 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: if people are on my Facebook, they see me, and 268 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I had three or four in the morning, I really 269 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: am I'm in And so we smoked and then we 270 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: just kind of got into like a little thing and 271 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: it was really cute and I was actually falling asleep. 272 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: I was actually falling asleep, and they're like, okay, you 273 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: want to start making music. I was like, no, I'm good, 274 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: I'll just go home. They're like, come on, what do 275 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: you really want to do? And I saw the mic 276 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: and I just took the mic and we just I 277 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: was like, and one person was on the drunks. Yes, 278 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: the person had a guitar. The other person had to 279 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: places guitar and they and we just formed. So that's 280 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: how we formed. So if someone wants to go through 281 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: one of the things that you've gone through a lot 282 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: of different dilemmas and faumas and things like that, what 283 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: would you tell the younger generation if you about how 284 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: to cope with these kind of things that you've went through. 285 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm still learning. I mean like, I 286 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: won't tell people to find a therapist. I'm not into that. 287 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: I don't think therapy helps it any everyone. I do 288 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: think the artistic expression for me, like finding it out 289 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: at is super good. I mean, I one of the 290 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: reasons I like doing the punk thing why I like, 291 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I've always liked the sing You know, it's because I 292 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: scream a lot and I love screaming. It gets the 293 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: It gets the emotion and gets the anger, It gets 294 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: the frustration out. And to get to your point, your 295 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: other question about why a punk specifically is because punk, 296 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: just like hip hop did, like every other genre, was 297 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: founded by black people and it was funded with the 298 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: anti capitalist anti white supremacist, anti establishment in mind, and 299 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: that's what I am very much. So I hate the police. 300 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't trust it. I posted this on the other day. 301 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe in going to the city officials and 302 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: holding them accountable because this system is created to kill 303 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: black and Indigenous people. So guess what, I'm not gonna 304 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: go to you if you have a gun in your hand, 305 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to you and say, please, mister killer, 306 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: don't kill me. I'm gonna find a way to get 307 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: that gun out of your hand. Like take the power back. 308 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: As Ragel gets the machine says, got to take the 309 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: power back anyway. So I think about that, I think 310 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: about getting involved, how I got involved a lot, Like 311 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: I do want to say there are some things I 312 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: do believe in and that that gave me hope, Like 313 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: when we were camping outside. I was camping outside with 314 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: indigenous people to protest, you know, against Trumps, you know, 315 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: us taking babies away from you know, their parents at 316 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: the border or like sending people back to there, which 317 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: guess what, we're in Mexico, y'all. This is not there's 318 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: not white people owned. This is Mexico. So we got 319 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: to remember that they just come into their land anyway, 320 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: it's native lands, indigenous land. I believe in fighting for that, 321 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: So I believe in doing that. I also believe in 322 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: going and causing people to think about why we're doing 323 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: certain things. So like when even when Black Lives Matter, 324 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: we're camping out outside of city, y'all, I was like, y'all, 325 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: I would go there. I didn't believe in replacing one 326 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: police commissioner for another. I don't believe in that. I 327 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: believe in like why are we here, y'all? Like, are 328 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: y'all really about something? Because like we got to hit 329 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: them where it hurts, or like we got to like 330 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: form our own community based solutions and think about transformative 331 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: and restorative justices which are indigenous and black, and stop 332 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: relying on the systems that are killing us. They are 333 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: killing us right now during the COVID you know situation, 334 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: it's predominantly black and brown people that are dying, and 335 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm naming Indigenous people and that as well, because they 336 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: are not getting the help they need because they are 337 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: like because of the fucking, oh my gosh, the way 338 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: that white supremacy lies and a lot of Native and 339 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: Indigenous people and slaves. It's horrible, It's fucking horrible, and 340 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: so we got to fight back. That's why I would 341 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: say dinging people fight back, and if you can't fight back, 342 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: find someone who you can be with that will teach 343 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: you to fight back in certain ways and find an outlet. 344 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Well fix. One of the other questions is is I 345 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know if you what pronouns would you like? Because 346 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: I am no, no, no, she and you shouldn't say 347 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: what else would you like to say? What pronounced do 348 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: you use? What pronounces do you use? My apologies she 349 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: I do go by there because I also so for 350 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: those that don't uh know, I also identify it as indigenous, 351 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: and there are some indigenous cultures that have what's called 352 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: two spirit. Two spirit are folks who are not male 353 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: nor they're female. They are born born with any and 354 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: all right. They are healers. They're they're instead of like 355 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: being the ones that are criminalized and demonized, they are 356 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: the ones that are the healers. They are the ones 357 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: that you can go to to like get to seek 358 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: out help. There's actually a beautiful, a beautiful story that 359 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: I heard. So men and women and the two spirits 360 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: lived in harmony. Right, and then men and women started fighting. 361 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: So men went one way, women went another way. So 362 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: the two spirits got together. They're like, we need to 363 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: keep this together to like kill our land, because we 364 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: need to keep producing. Right, So they went to the 365 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: man and talked to the man for the women, and 366 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: they bring them back to the circle. And they went 367 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: to the women and bring them back to the circle 368 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: for the men, and they're like and they mediated and 369 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: everything was good. Right. So that's it's just a perfect 370 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: balance of both, right. What else? Yeah, So yeah, but 371 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: when you when you ask that, I mean just to 372 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: let you know, things are always changing. I see you 373 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: that you tried to like, I'm not mad at you. 374 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: It's not like that, but I appreciate you. Correct. Yeah, 375 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: everything's always changing, right, like everything. There's some words that 376 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: I use that I are still like, I'm like, okay, wait, 377 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: like I'm trany'all getting mad at me, you know, but 378 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: like things are always things are always changing. I do 379 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: want to say something that, like, I think for me, 380 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: in terms of living in skid row and in terms 381 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: of fighting back against the police, fighting back against violences too, right, 382 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: I think the biggest support that I've had has been 383 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: from community, from people that either look like me or 384 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: people that they haven't looked like me, And I mean 385 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: like they're transling black or they're cramp black, and they're 386 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: doing their best to fight back against these oppressive systems. 387 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think fighting community is super big, which 388 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: brings me a question is what can Because I have 389 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: to say this because I am a black man and 390 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: I think it's important to save this is there is 391 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: a community in a black community that I disagree with, 392 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: is that they believe there are some conspiracy against black 393 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: men to change him or feminize him and things like that. 394 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: And I need to speak out and be clear on 395 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: this because I want your perspective on this because I 396 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: just agree because nobody's going to put a gun to 397 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: your hand and say you're going to be this. So 398 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: let's let's let's talk about that elephant and seriod. So 399 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: hoole tap is Yes, I go back to the Dugon 400 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: tribe of Nigeria. One of their goddess I can't say though, 401 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: I mean it's both one of their gods that they 402 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: prayed to before colonization was a statue that had tits. 403 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: Can I say, Hallas? I need to say it had 404 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: tits and a dick. That's one of the gods that 405 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: they prayed to before colonization. So I think I think, yes, 406 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: we need to challenge masculinity. I think, yes, we need 407 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: to challenge math toxic masculinity, especially because men don't just 408 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: kill trans women. They killed fish gender women. Like four 409 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: years ago, I remember in a span of one week, 410 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: two black trans women had died and then another assist 411 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: woman in New York was cat called, which we insdeed 412 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: hit on her, A black dude hit on her. He 413 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: was like, hey, mama was and she she didn't return it, 414 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, and he burned her. He burned her. So 415 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: we have to challenge the masculinity that that goes onto that. 416 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: We have to challenge the like the ideals that like 417 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: the idea of the fucking nuclear family that they're still 418 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: trying to make just it's the same idea that white 419 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: supremacy dave us, but they're doing it, you know, they're 420 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: doing One of the things also that bugs mean is 421 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: like we could advance technologically, we can advance morally, but 422 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: yet somehow masculinity just stays in this fossil, fossilized viewpoint 423 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: and they that's I think it's much more damaging to people, 424 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: particularly people of color, because we drink into that white 425 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: supremacist idea that masculinity is only one linear way. I believe, 426 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: so oh yeah, yeah, definitely also think that like naming 427 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: things as masculine and feminine, it's also a thing that 428 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: was given to us by white supremacy. It's just the 429 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: real one of the things a person said was one 430 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: of the first violenists that they taught us. And colonization 431 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: is gendering things. It's gendering people, right, and it's to 432 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: make classes of people, to make some people above others 433 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: and some people below here than others. That's why you have, 434 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, men, Like for the longest time, if the 435 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: woman was in an abusive situation with the men she 436 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: cannot divorce. It was seen as a fucking thing in 437 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church, right, and even in a lot of 438 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: other religions. But I think we have to challenge those things. 439 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: I think that I think that men have to see 440 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: their liberation tied up in women's liberation and in trans 441 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: into women's liberation and in gender non performing people's liberation 442 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: in order for them to get free. Because when once 443 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: that's why a lot of brown people are starting to 444 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: say black lives matter now because they recognize that once 445 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: we got to work from the bottom up, we can't 446 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: work for the top. We can't say white, we can't 447 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: say white lives matter, all lives matter. We have to 448 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: say that the bottom of the bottom is black folks, right, 449 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: And that's because anti blackness is global exactly. Yes, So 450 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: you go, you know, the darker you are, the harder 451 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: it is. So if you're looking more like an indigenous 452 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: African or an indigenous person, it's going to be harder 453 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: for you. So we have to work from the bottom 454 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: to start out. The same thing with gender, same thing 455 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: with ability, same thing with class, same thing, with all 456 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: the things. We have to work up she who's the 457 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: most he's the most marginalized, and with our way up 458 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: and see our liberation tied up in their liberation, because 459 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: if they don't get free, we don't get for you. 460 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: That's very well said. This is Ceo Henderson from Weedian House, 461 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: and I want to understand that no matter what boat 462 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: you came in under, we're all under the same boat. 463 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: And we're all in the same boat now because of 464 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: the fact that what the fact of the fact of 465 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: the matter is white supremacy leaves a stench on everything, 466 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: no matter how we can phrase it. But I think 467 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: he was going to say something else. I just I 468 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: just like I said, black lives matter and brown people 469 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: need to rise up. And I think in saying that 470 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: we are in the same boat, it does kind of 471 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: erase the fact that black people are the ones that 472 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: are dying. The indigenous people are the ones that are dying. 473 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: So yes, white, white supremacy and capitalism affects us all, 474 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: especially right now, and we are all like seeking the 475 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: government insistance and blah blah blah. Who's not getting the 476 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: government and system? Who's not getting these help? What's going 477 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: on with like indigenous communities that are suffering, what's going 478 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: on with Black people that are dying? Literally, black people 479 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: are dying. Trans women that are doing sex worker are 480 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: still doing sex work. Black six women who are doing 481 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: sex work are still doing sex work to fucking survive, 482 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: while people who work normal jobs. And I hate to 483 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: say normal, but I'm just for normal USIC. I know 484 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: this is the yeah, but I just want to acknowledge that, yes, 485 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: while we're all kind of struggling, there are different struggles 486 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: that have fucked different different ways, and there are people 487 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: that are more like I said that. I hate to 488 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: term more, but that's all we have that are more marginalized. 489 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: Black and brown people are getting like, look at the 490 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: statistics right now. And if you want to look up 491 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: my music, my band's name is you guys suck like 492 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: real hart Shut the fuck up things. Also, I'll just 493 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: leave the link on the yes, please please do we 494 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: have a band camp? We have music out, so yeah. Again, 495 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: it is my hope that we needing a lot of understanding, 496 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: and thank you all for listening. Thank you. Sheella sitting 497 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: on the bust, feeling that God damn fool I used 498 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: to touch you all. This world can be so cool, 499 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: but the whiskey is warm, smokes a stale and iecn 500 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: no earthy, nobody's waiting at home on calling my phone, 501 00:31:50,880 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: No one smiths setting me. I'm long but step flag. 502 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: Why watch come and treat a poor girl like that? 503 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: Love bata fla worm lie the chain red gets up, 504 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: chat nevernchee you never it's fad Oh, I love you all, 505 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: I love you all. I love you it makes me 506 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: and saying scot and sticking needle into the master dol 507 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: Pard vibrating work together these days of robbing. Send me 508 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: on my way, But my heart won't believe it. My 509 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: lips won't forget all could say, some low man, but 510 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: sta flag, how could you can't treat the poor puns? 511 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: Lord so basted flat bom l tried res nds up check. 512 00:33:32,240 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: I never clichee you ever expan if I could change 513 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: your mind, turn back time life, So come here, puck 514 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: you ro or just back. I believe you take my 515 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: heartt off the sleeper you win anything to be near you. 516 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: That is clearing me. I think it's dense in my 517 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: train and myself the stranger go home, love and crawl 518 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: back under my sta avoid an again and the danger. 519 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm loved so and busted that why won't you country 520 00:34:49,520 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: the poker like that? Love so busted that warm lie 521 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: chegment gives a check. I every we said you would 522 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: ever expand? How could go and do with such a 523 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: cocker so hoo? How could you go and do such 524 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: a cocker so well? How could you do it? How 525 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: could to do such a cooker? So bro, I'm going 526 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 1: to do such a coco sure