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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We'll set along a poll question coming up.

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Speaker 1: Nobody goes toe to toe with Bill Belichick like our

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Speaker 1: good buddy Tom Curran does Patriots Insider NBC Sports Boston.

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Speaker 1: Here's a little sample of Tom Curran and Coach Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Do you have to announce who your starting quarterback is

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Speaker 1: to the world and deserved an advantage in your preparation

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Speaker 1: if your opponent doesn't know? Ye? Again, I would just

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Speaker 1: say Tom that what we're gonna do is what we

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Speaker 1: feel is best for our football team, and that's what

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Speaker 1: it'll be. Yeah, and w have be best for the

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Speaker 1: team that keeps that under wraps or what would it

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Speaker 1: be best for the team to know what the situation

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Speaker 1: is at certain positions? Yep? Okay, Tom, Can you break

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Speaker 1: down that exchange with Bill Belichick? What did we learn

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Speaker 1: from that exchange? I thought we were in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I thought, look, we understand that he is the king

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Speaker 1: of subterfuge, and I figured he'd pull it out and

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Speaker 1: pull it out and pull it out, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: he'd have both guys standing on the sideline Sunday before

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins game. One would take a step and then

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Speaker 1: the other would run out. But now he is unveiled

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Speaker 1: that it's important for the rest of the team to

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Speaker 1: know which In thinking about it, I guess it is.

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Speaker 1: They've been working at it for a month. But for

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Speaker 1: the last six weeks he's been saying, basically, how can

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Speaker 1: you answer this question? Cam's my starter? And then he's

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Speaker 1: asked and then he didn't answer that is there? What's changed?

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Speaker 1: Do you think, if anything? With Belichick? A couple of

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Speaker 1: things have really been kind of under reported or highlighted.

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Speaker 1: The first time he said Cam's our starter, within ninety

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Speaker 1: seconds it was added that the blow Cam out of

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Speaker 1: that spot. Somebody asked to play better at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of camp again he said, you know, I answered that

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Speaker 1: question before, Cam's our starter, and when rest he said,

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Speaker 1: but everybody has to establish level. So he's walked it

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Speaker 1: back in terms of saying, look, they're all competing, and

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Speaker 1: in this competition it's Mac Jones has not won by

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's not been a draw. It's been

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Speaker 1: kind of a landslide in performance and workload. Are you

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Speaker 1: pro Mac Jones or more ANTII? Cam Newton more pro

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones? Look, Cam has been probably thirty or forty

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Speaker 1: percent better than he looked last year. The velocity on

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Speaker 1: it throws, his command of the offense and decisiveness are

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Speaker 1: miles ahead of where they were. He's never going to

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Speaker 1: be what you look at and say that's how you

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Speaker 1: want to throw the football. I mean, steps left, throws right,

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Speaker 1: looks weird, the ball's down here, and he's not accurate,

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Speaker 1: but he's been way way better, and he brings to

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Speaker 1: your team something in short yardages and running back twelve

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Speaker 1: touchdowns last year, six hundred yards rushing. But mac Jones

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Speaker 1: makes the offense look so much like it looked when

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady was running it, or even Jimmy Garoppolo was

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Speaker 1: running it. So to me, that's what they want to

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Speaker 1: be and who they want to be. Who gives you

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Speaker 1: a better chance to win this year? Between those two

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Speaker 1: mac Jones it's passing league. Okay, he's a very good passer,

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Speaker 1: and you need somebody to maximize the skills of guys

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Speaker 1: like agal Or Hunter, Henry John and Smith. All these

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Speaker 1: people at the Patriots spent so much money one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty million dollars and guaranteed money to bring in

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Speaker 1: you need somebody to maximize that, and Cam just really

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Speaker 1: isn't in a position to do that at his age.

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Speaker 1: When you go back to draft night, and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of revisionist history here where oh, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: Patriots knew that he was going to be another Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady or I think we weren't sure if he was

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Speaker 1: going to the San Francisco forty nine ers, and then

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Speaker 1: when we realized they were taking Trey Lance, then it

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Speaker 1: was like, boy, he's going to start falling. Why didn't

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Speaker 1: some of these other teams pick him up, like Belichick

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Speaker 1: see in him, or Josh McDaniels that Carolina didn't or

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Speaker 1: Chicago didn't, or somebody trading up to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think ceiling the ceiling that you perceived for a

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Speaker 1: player like Mac Jones who doesn't have that electric athleticism

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Speaker 1: that a Justin Fields has or obviously a Trey Lance has.

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Speaker 1: So the floor is extremely high, and Belichick saw something

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Speaker 1: that could say, Okay, we can win with this guy.

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Speaker 1: And we know that this coaching staff is extremely confident

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Speaker 1: in its ability to coach players up, get the most

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Speaker 1: out of them, and also winning game situations by being smarter,

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Speaker 1: So they're not really infatuated with the notion of that

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Speaker 1: quarterback who is an outlier and can do things nobody

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Speaker 1: else can do. They just want somebody to run the system,

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Speaker 1: and Jones can do that. That doesn't appeal I think

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Speaker 1: perhaps to Chicago. Look, I like Justin Fields better than

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones as a draft pick, probably because I thought

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Speaker 1: he could do more things. And I didn't think that

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Speaker 1: Jones was going to be this good. I thought he

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Speaker 1: was a byproduct of the system and throwing to first

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Speaker 1: round level players against college kids. I said, it's not

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Speaker 1: it's not even, but he's been way better than I thought.

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Speaker 1: But also being the right quarterback for the right system.

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields, you know, wouldn't have been the right quarterback

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Speaker 1: probably for this system in the same way Cam isn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's why it's square peg, roundhole. How long are

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Speaker 1: we going to carry this out? Which is what's fascinating

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Speaker 1: right now, because you know they have to make a

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Speaker 1: decision on it, and where Cam goes mentally if he's told, look,

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Speaker 1: you're not the starter is a fascinating part of this too,

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Speaker 1: because I think the Patriots value him and won him around.

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Speaker 1: Also local sentiment. I imagine Patriot fans, this is your

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Speaker 1: homegrown player cam as a rental. Plus, hey, we can

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Speaker 1: get back to where we were because now we've got

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Speaker 1: a young Tom Brady clone. With that, it's only okay.

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Speaker 1: Air assessment completely and who's only going to get better.

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Speaker 1: So if your argument is all right, well, Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is too raw. And my buddy Philip Perry, who's on

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Speaker 1: the beat with me at NBC Sports Boston, continually points

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Speaker 1: out that when you have a rookie quarterback who can play,

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Speaker 1: it's the most economically advantageous position you can be in

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Speaker 1: because in four years you're going to be giving them

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Speaker 1: a kind of contract if he's good, that Mahomes or

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Dak Prescott ends up garnering. But right

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Speaker 1: now you want to maximize the amount of time that

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Speaker 1: players on the field because it's actually a win for

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Speaker 1: you against the salary cap. So get him started. So

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Speaker 1: that to me is an interesting aspect of this too.

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Speaker 1: When does Belichick make the long anticipated announcement. I hope

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Speaker 1: it's Saturday, because I have a bet with Michael Felger

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Speaker 1: up here that he won't announce it before the end

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Speaker 1: of business on Friday. But Felger thinks it'll be by

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Speaker 1: Friday into business and I have to buy him a

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Speaker 1: bottle of tequila. He has to buy me a sixty

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Speaker 1: degree lob wedge if it comes up my way. But

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Speaker 1: do you think this is a news dump that Belichick's

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Speaker 1: gonna go, Let's do this hit around five five? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I would imagine he doesn't want to have us running

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Speaker 1: around the zoom conferences calls because weren't in the locker room. Um, say,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? Do you feel bad for Calm

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Speaker 1: but a little bit about that? I was Cam DoD

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Speaker 1: a lot, you know, obviously, just fishing and I could

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Speaker 1: see him, you know. And once you get to September fifth,

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Speaker 1: next Monday, it's prep week for the Miami Dolphins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we already made that decision. What's the what's the one

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Speaker 1: question you just you can or topic you just can't

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Speaker 1: ask Belichick about Malcolm Butler? But Butler might be retiring.

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Speaker 1: Can you bring that up to Bill of Malcolm Butler

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Speaker 1: retires by saying, coach, now that Malcolm's retired, can you

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Speaker 1: expound upon what happened in the Super Bowl? It's certainly fair,

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Speaker 1: you know what else? We honestly, Dan, we haven't asked it.

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Speaker 1: Dawne to me yesterday, and we have to ask what's

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Speaker 1: your reaction to Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl? Wait? No,

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Speaker 1: one hasn't been asked that. Why we just I guess

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Speaker 1: the train left the station and we forgot we left

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Speaker 1: that piece of luggage on the on the platfor that's

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Speaker 1: are you asked? Are you afraid now that I thought

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Speaker 1: of it? No, but this has to be the right time.

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Speaker 1: I can't spit it out when he's talking about cuts. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be Belichick. Let's practice this and you you're

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Speaker 1: gonna ask me. Okay, Bill, I don't know if you noticed,

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Speaker 1: but back in February, winning your former players, Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: was able to secure a Super Bowl with Now that's

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Speaker 1: a player that you kind of pushed towards the door

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Speaker 1: for about three years, and Um seemingly felt as if

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Speaker 1: he wasn't able to perform. He wanted to stay here, Bill,

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Speaker 1: he would have preferred to stay here. But now that

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Speaker 1: he's gone and through forty touchdowns and four thousand, six

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three yards and one another Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: do you do you feel like that you're in a

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Speaker 1: situation now you want him back. No, that's not the

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Speaker 1: way to do it. No, that's just his answer is no, no, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And there is no more adept there's no more adept

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Speaker 1: interviewer in American journalism than you would. How would you

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Speaker 1: ask it? How would you broach the topic? Did how

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Speaker 1: much of the Super Bowl did you watch? Coach? I

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Speaker 1: had a lot going on, Barbados. What was your reaction

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Speaker 1: when you found out Tom and gron won a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: That's the first time I'm hearing of it right now.

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Speaker 1: He can shut you down no matter what your question is.

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Speaker 1: But like he you were building it up and you

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Speaker 1: got cute. Don't know, if you noticed one of your formula,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, Yeah, you know, I wouldn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you just go. You have to just see if

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Speaker 1: he wants to talk about it. What was your reaction

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Speaker 1: to Tom and Gronk? Put Gronk in there too, just

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Speaker 1: because then it doesn't become you and you against Brady.

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Speaker 1: So you put Gronk in there and then maybe he

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Speaker 1: gives you a little bit. I mean, it just depends

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Speaker 1: You know how it is where you go ya, honestly,

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Speaker 1: the best motive attack would be Bill is we continue

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Speaker 1: to watch the quarterback situation unfold here. Do you ever

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Speaker 1: look in retrospect and say, maybe it would have been

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Speaker 1: a good idea to keep Tom Brady given his accomplishments

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Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. No, see he's not. You're giving him

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to say, no, how stupid was it from

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Speaker 1: from one now? Because you can't even say one to

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Speaker 1: ten coach, how stupid wasn't on scale one to ten

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Speaker 1: that you guys didn't think Tom had anything left in

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Speaker 1: the tech? Uh? Uh? We done? Yeah? Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: go to my coffee do do do? Dunkeys? Are Starbucks

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Speaker 1: or Starbucks? But you live in Massachusetts, you guys, you

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Speaker 1: know dunkin Donuts? But do you do the app? And

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Speaker 1: so you get there and it's ready? Yeah? Yeah, drive

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Speaker 1: through these SAPs to sitting the drive through out onto

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Speaker 1: the street in my neighborhood. Well, out onto the street

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Speaker 1: they're sitting in the drive through. Well sometimes if I

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Speaker 1: see there's a long line, then I just walk in,

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Speaker 1: say a load of people. I'm a man of the people.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, do you but you don't use the

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Speaker 1: app to order your yeah coffee? Yeah, okay. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it's all it's ready for me, whether I go through

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Speaker 1: We have the drive through here is so there's never

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Speaker 1: less than seven cars in it. And I'm a I'm

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Speaker 1: a two car drive through guy. See two, I'm going in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm there with you. But you know, some times I

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Speaker 1: want to make somebody's day and then go into Starbucks

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Speaker 1: and say a load to people. Now here comes that

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Speaker 1: guy who thinks he's the mayor here coming in again.

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Speaker 1: Did you realize that I had to go through four

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Speaker 1: Good luck with this, Bailey. Sounds like a plumb assignment

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Speaker 1: That didn't sound good, Bailey, thanks for joining us, Thank

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Speaker 1: building where they kind of had classes, and she'd be

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Speaker 1: like the student manager. She'd get what's the guys Jarton

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Speaker 1: jonah Heill could join her? Yeah, who was the other one?

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Speaker 1: Channing Tatum, Tatum, Channing Tatum, onenty three Jump Street Bishop. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like that. And who did they played an academy?

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Speaker 1: Did they play IMG out of Orlando, I think, which

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Speaker 1: is real? Yes, yeah, that is a real academy and

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Speaker 1: might be the number one team in the country I think.

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Speaker 1: But like, after a while, the announcers are going it

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Speaker 1: was thirty to nothing in the second quote, it could

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Speaker 1: have been one hundred to nothing, and You're going this,

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Speaker 1: this team is supposed to have Division one at least

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Speaker 1: ten Division one recruits, and I thought, well, they're not

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Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, pall all their recruits are going to

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Speaker 1: like the University of Phoenix, Southern New Hampshire University Online schools. Wow, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 1: When you see them taking pictures with their wives and

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Speaker 1: kids outside, how does no one note do they have

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Speaker 1: you know, bring your bring your kids to school day?

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Speaker 1: There for Bishops Sycamoreal father Son halftime Mr Football catch

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Speaker 1: on the field? Oh man, what a wild story. And

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Speaker 1: you know somebody had to book this game, schedule this game,

447
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Speaker 1: and they have other games now are they must see TV? Now?

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Speaker 1: They got a game in Tennessee, a game in Texas,

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Speaker 1: a game in Ohio, I think they're on the run.

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Speaker 1: I think, oh my god, and I feel bad for

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Speaker 1: these kids because they're being promised something and you have

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Speaker 1: these coaches manipulating these kids. But I think there's a

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Speaker 1: go fund me page that they were hoping to raise

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars. I think they have two hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: so far. Yeah. Mclovin, Yeah, I sell them. I do

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Speaker 1: really even believe all this. It's you couldn't write this.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. And when I first saw this story,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it felt like people

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Speaker 1: had information, they just didn't have an outlet to tell

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Speaker 1: anybody about it. And then it's like, oh well I'm hearing,

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Speaker 1: Oh well I know this, or I talked to this person. Yeah, seton.

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Speaker 1: What's crazy about it? Like, to me, the craziest part

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Speaker 1: is that these dudes think they're legit enough that it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go on ESPN and do this. Let's go on

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Speaker 1: ESPN and like make the whole world known sort of

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Speaker 1: who we are, because they in their mind it's legit.

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Speaker 1: Can you still play this team if you're the team

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee or the team in Texas? Does somebody step

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Speaker 1: in do you actually grown up step in and say,

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Speaker 1: you know, this isn't a sanction football game. You're playing

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Speaker 1: against kids who were nineteen twenty years of age. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't see how you could possibly play these older

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Speaker 1: kids now, however bad they are, and if they've been

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Speaker 1: outscored three hundred and forty to twenty. You can't put

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Speaker 1: your kids at risk like that. And all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden one of your fourteen fifty year old kids gets

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Speaker 1: knocked over by like a nineteen twenty year old. How

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Speaker 1: do you explain that to the parents letting this game happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's actually something I've been looking into. Is it an

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Speaker 1: illegal act to put a bunch of nineteen and twenty

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Speaker 1: year olds seventeen year olds in a high school football game?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that they got blown out. That could

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Speaker 1: be an illegal act like endangering kids. You're putting adults

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Speaker 1: on a physical contest with underage minors. But also, wasn't

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Speaker 1: there a basketball player who came from another country and

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Speaker 1: he was a high school player I believe in Texas,

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Speaker 1: and he was around twenty eight years of age, and

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Speaker 1: he was he was dominating, and then somebody realized that

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Speaker 1: he was a grown man. Yeah, has that fantasy ever

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Speaker 1: spoken to you before? I was gonna say that sounded

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Speaker 1: like I'm more of a game play. Yeah, story. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know what if I came back in

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Speaker 1: high school and around twenty five, I'd be lightening up

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Speaker 1: Springborough for thirty a night. Yes, and Bishop Sycamore, they

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Speaker 1: would just featured on Impractical Jokers like three weeks. That

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Speaker 1: is not true. That is not true. Oh man, grown up,

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Speaker 1: screw up every thing. Yes, mcle the man faced. It

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Speaker 1: was twenty six and played at a Dallas high school.

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Speaker 1: He was from overseas. Yeah, but he dominated. He was awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: always got a scholarship. Yeah, well he was good enough

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Speaker 1: to get a scholarship. They just found out before he

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Speaker 1: could get a scholarship. All right, let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: Gets phone calls coming up once again. Cam Newton has

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Speaker 1: been cut by the New England Patriots. Yeah, Paul, but

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Speaker 1: mac Jones has not necessarily been named the starter. People

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Speaker 1: assume that one means the other. Has he been named

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Speaker 1: the starter? Oh well, I don't know if Bill has

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Speaker 1: actually said that publicly. Be classic Bill to go at

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer in September and then handed when the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network says Mac Jones will start Week one against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: They assume it earth's been a mouth but there's no

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Jimmy Jimmerson and see what Jimmy has

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Speaker 1: to say our NFL insider, Jimmy, what are you hearing

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Speaker 1: about Mac Jones arting for the Patriots Week one? Dan,

515
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Speaker 1: this has been obvious to anybody who's been following the preseason.

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Speaker 1: It's been Mac Jones all along. I mean, nobody can

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Speaker 1: really be surprised about this. Cam Newton just you know,

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Speaker 1: he just wasn't a right fit for Bill. Well, thank you, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome back to you, Jimmy Jammerson, back to you

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Speaker 1: in the studio. Oh gosh, see, Andrew had this all

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Speaker 1: like he there was like a precursor to it all

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Speaker 1: when he was just like, there's a cut that's gonna

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Speaker 1: get me real upset. He thought it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: Will Greer. It's Cam Newton. Dang, dude, I know you

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Speaker 1: love yourself some Cam Newton I do. Yeah. Still getting cut, Okay,

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Speaker 1: bigger cut today, Will Greer, Cam Newton new Paul question.

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Speaker 1: as Dan Patrick's show, What a Wild Day So Far?

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton got cut or did he get released? Did

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Speaker 1: he ask to be released before he was going to

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Speaker 1: get cut? I'm sure if we'll ever find out. Tom Kern,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots insider who was with us earlier in the

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Speaker 1: show prior to the announcement that Cam was cut, and

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Speaker 1: Tom current will join us coming up here momentarily. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're all in on Mac Jones now, and the question

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Speaker 1: is does Cam Newton get another job? I didn't think

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Speaker 1: Cam would be fine with being a backup quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: I think that that's what a lot of teams looked

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Speaker 1: at if they were going to bring in Cam Newton.

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Speaker 1: It'd be nice to have him as a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But Cam still feels like he can play. And even now,

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Speaker 1: does Washington pick him up? Would you rather have Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton or Ryan Fitzpatrick in there? Could he go to

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Speaker 1: the Colts and be a backup quarterback? I don't. I

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Speaker 1: just don't see him being a backup quarterback. Could he

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Speaker 1: go to Baltimore? I mean, he may not have a choice,

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Speaker 1: but in his mind will he accept that? How much

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Speaker 1: does he want to be on a roster? I'd be

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Speaker 1: curious about that with Cam Newton. But I thought Cam

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Speaker 1: was going to start for the Patriots. I couldn't imagine

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Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick was going to start this season with

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. But if you once again, we'll never

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Speaker 1: find this out. But if you said, Belichick, do you

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Speaker 1: want to beat Tom Brady with Cam Newton or Mac Jones? Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's all in on Mac Jones, be like, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to bring out, you know, mini me Tom Brady to

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Speaker 1: face Tom Brady in New England in week four and

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Speaker 1: he would love that. Eight seven seven three d P

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Speaker 1: Show email address TPN, Dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle

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Speaker 1: at DP show. We will check in with the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, who were in Dallas now because of Hurricane Ida.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if that season opener against the

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Speaker 1: Packers is in jeopardy in New Orleans and what might

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Speaker 1: be planned. B Let's bring in Tom Curran, the NBC

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Speaker 1: Sports Boston Patriots outsider. Apparently you were an insider a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours ago, but Cam gets released. What happened here? Well,

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Speaker 1: I told you that Mac Jones was going to be

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Speaker 1: the starter. What do you mean, outsider? Yeah, but did

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Speaker 1: you know that Cam would be released? I didn't know

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Speaker 1: how things would come to pass, But I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you would here that Mac I mean, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dan, I'm on it. I said Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is going to be the start. And now, whatever Kim's

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Speaker 1: reaction was to that, I consume that probably wasn't that

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Speaker 1: positive because he is now no longer in New England Patriot.

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Speaker 1: But I just think it's an interesting development to me.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know which is more interesting, the fact

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Speaker 1: that they've let him go where he asked to be

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Speaker 1: let go, yea, or the fact that they've gone with

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Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. Probably the latter. Yeah. I never thought

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Speaker 1: Bill would go with the rookie quarterback. Just didn't. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, he obviously loves what he sees. But I'm

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Speaker 1: guessing Cam, being familiar with his ego, he's probably going,

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Speaker 1: you're not cutting me, you know, I'm going to ask

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Speaker 1: for my release. Sure, I know it's semantics here, but

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Speaker 1: can he I don't even know if somebody's going to

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Speaker 1: be interested in Cam because he didn't have any offers

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Speaker 1: until the Patriots scooped him up. Yeah, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. He's an unvaccinated player, who is not

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Speaker 1: an accurate thrower, who plays a unique style of quarterback

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Speaker 1: that needs a certain set of factors in place to

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Speaker 1: make him his most successful. So I think it could

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of time before he hooks on

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Speaker 1: with somebody. You know, As I said, you know, when

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Speaker 1: I call him yesterday and today, don't be so sure

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Speaker 1: that Cam's going to be the starter, because when you

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Speaker 1: look at mac Jones's workload compared to Cams, they were

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Speaker 1: not preparing Cam Newton to start the season. He had

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Speaker 1: two drives against the Giants, he had two drives against

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. He missed five days last week. There's been

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Speaker 1: very few days, if any, when he's outplayed mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: So the only reason that people were clinging to the

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Speaker 1: was starting preseason games. But that's largely symbolic to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I also think, and you bring up some great points

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Speaker 1: here that I don't know if those five days that

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Speaker 1: games like, he never felt like he was overwhelmed with

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Speaker 1: any of this. But do you think not being vaccinated

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Speaker 1: played any role in Cam Newton being released by the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I know the Patriots want their players to be vaccinated, period,

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Speaker 1: and I think that last week's occurrence, even on a

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Speaker 1: minor technicality, not a close contact, not a positive test,

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Speaker 1: none of that missing a test amplified for them the

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Speaker 1: tenuousness of his availability. So certainly that has to weigh

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Speaker 1: into it, whether that's number five, number three, number nine. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: every single player is going to be evaluated on vaccination status.

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Speaker 1: He's Tom, current Patriots insider who told us a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago that mac Jones should be the starter,

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Speaker 1: And you know you got your wish. I didn't care, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to chronicle the team, you know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right? I mean, what's your what's your first question

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Speaker 1: for Belichick when you see him? Hey, Bill, you're as

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Speaker 1: excited as I am. This is what I wanted. No, ill,

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Speaker 1: just now, two appearances, one show. I think the vaccination

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Speaker 1: status is not a horrible question because it's it absolutely

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Speaker 1: as a factor. Absolutely, I do. I good luck asking

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Speaker 1: the question it should be, is mac Jones vaccinated? We

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Speaker 1: can only go on without confirmation from him, which he

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Speaker 1: didn't provide. We can only go on the signs, which

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Speaker 1: are he walks around unmasked, So I'm guessing that he

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Speaker 1: is vaccinated. Thank you again, Tom? Bye did Yeah, Well

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Speaker 1: we'll call you next hour. All that's right, We're not

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Speaker 1: on next time. Yeah, that's two, two appearances. Tom Kerrn,

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Speaker 1: NFL insider for the Patriot Patriots Insider. Yes, Bo, that's

650
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Speaker 1: a heck of a month for Tommy Curran because I

651
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Speaker 1: think it was three or four days ago he posted

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Speaker 1: his article going all in on mac Jones, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people up in Boston and elsewhere said, you're

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Speaker 1: on an island there, big guy. Well he was looking

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Speaker 1: at this. That what he was seeing, like, let's take

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Speaker 1: names out of this, let's take everything else out of this.

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Speaker 1: Just who's available and how was he performing? And mac

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Speaker 1: Jones was available. Campbell was not missed five days with

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Speaker 1: COVID protocol, and he wasn't playing a lot in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and even when he did, there was nothing real special there.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones thirty six of fifty two for almost four

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Speaker 1: hundred yards in the preseason. He made a throw against

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Speaker 1: the Giants where I went, that's a big boy throw.

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Speaker 1: That was his only touchdown he threw during the preseason,

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Speaker 1: and that's the first time I went, wow, that was great.

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Speaker 1: So that's where Tom Brady would have said, hey, you

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Speaker 1: can't do a better than that. But he made a

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Speaker 1: read through an unbelievable pass in a small window, and

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Speaker 1: that's the first time. Because you can't really take too

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Speaker 1: much from preseason, like you can watch it and you're going, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who are you going against? Second string? Are they letting

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Speaker 1: you throw? You know, is it all dump off pounces?

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Speaker 1: That was a throw that was legitimately an all pro throw. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm the club. Yeah, but he makes he's long. He's

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Speaker 1: been defying expectations in Alabama. He had more long throws

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Speaker 1: at Alabama and in preseason, like he does seem to

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Speaker 1: be able to throw downfield even though you wouldn't think

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Speaker 1: he could. Well, his release is what I notice. Because

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Speaker 1: if he's not going to be able to use athleticism

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Speaker 1: keeping a play alive, how quick are you in getting

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Speaker 1: the ball out? And and he is extremely quick at

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and that serves you well. If

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Speaker 1: you've got tight ends that you brought in short pounds,

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Speaker 1: maybe you know he can throw the deep ball because

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Speaker 1: he did that in Alabama with those receivers. Yeah. Pull

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Speaker 1: you said something a few times last year right after

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Speaker 1: the college football season about mac Jones, and you said,

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Speaker 1: how do we tell how good he is? Because he's

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Speaker 1: he's beating LSU fifty five seventeen Mississippi State forty one

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Speaker 1: to zero. There weren't a lot of tight games with

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Speaker 1: tight plays that he needed to make, so it more

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Speaker 1: looked like he was playing pitch and catch with his

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Speaker 1: great receivers all year. And it's hard to judge that

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Speaker 1: you said that a bunch of times last year. You

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Speaker 1: want to see a quarterback when a game is on

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Speaker 1: the line, when you got to make a play, because

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Speaker 1: it goes back to UNLV when U and LV was

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Speaker 1: going for back to back national titles back in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: and I remember wondering having a conversation with Bob Leon

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Speaker 1: Sports Center, what happens when U and LV gets into

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Speaker 1: a close game, if they get into a close game,

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Speaker 1: what happens. Well, they were blowing everybody out that year,

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Speaker 1: and then they got into a close game where they

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Speaker 1: had to make a play, diagram a play, make a

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Speaker 1: play and to beat Duke and they didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: A team that they'd blown out by thirty the previous

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Speaker 1: year in the National Championship this time around, when all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, hey we're not up by twenty, we

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Speaker 1: need to make a basket and they couldn't diagram a play.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want to see with any of these players.

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Speaker 1: How do you do when you have to do something

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Speaker 1: not and it goes back to I want to see

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Speaker 1: the adversity. What happens after the interception? What happens after

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Speaker 1: a fumble? What do you do the next series? That

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Speaker 1: tells me more about a quarterback than and he threw

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Speaker 1: three touchdown passes and you know he was eighteen of

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Speaker 1: twenty four. Okay, But if you have somebody who throws

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Speaker 1: an interception, what happens after that? What's the next drive?

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Speaker 1: Like you get down on yourself, you have a couple incompletion, whatever,

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Speaker 1: you get sacked a couple of times. That's that's the position.

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Speaker 1: That's the reality of all of this. What happens when

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Speaker 1: something bad goes wrong? And then how do you respond

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Speaker 1: after that? But Mac Jones getting the start Week one

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Speaker 1: versus the Dolphins, Yeah, Seaton Cam Newton's feeling a little deflated.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Ryan, Yeah, thank you Ryan. Yes. Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: last three games last year in college against Florida, the

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Speaker 1: SEC title game, which is a tight game, six Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame in the first round of the playoffs, Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: They handled. Both those teams are decent games. He threw

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Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns in one pick in those last few games. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it factors in two that you're

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Speaker 1: starting a rookie quarterback. You host the Dolphins, you're at

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Speaker 1: the Jets, you host the Saints, you host the Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: then you're at the Texans, then you host the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: you host the Jets. All right, you know, nothing really

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Speaker 1: strenuous on the road. Although you're playing quality opponents at home,

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Speaker 1: you're still at home. Yeah, mclubn that Football Outsider's column

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Speaker 1: they had the Patriots had the projected easiest schedule in

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Speaker 1: the NFL and the Bills actually right behind them because

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Speaker 1: they get the Jets. Yeah, so these they play the

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Speaker 1: FC South and the NFC South and they get the Jets.

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Speaker 1: And maybe the Dolphins are bad too. So the FedEx

743
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Speaker 1: Cup Playoffs final stomp the Tour Championship one last chance

744
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Speaker 1: for the PGA Tours Ultimate Prize this weekend on NBC

745
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: and Golf certainly have a hard time with an encore

746
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Speaker 1: performance after what happened this past weekend with Patrick Kentley

747
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Speaker 1: and Bryson Deshambau. Anything else I need to mention here,

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Speaker 1: McLevin or Paulie. The poll question where we're gonna stay

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Speaker 1: with them? I think we need a Cam Newton poll.

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Speaker 1: Would you want him on your team that kind of question.

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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of fan bases where

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Speaker 1: I could think I would want to add Cam Newton.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine given Ron Rivero's public stance on vaccinations

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Speaker 1: with you know, he's got an immune system compromised, he

755
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: went through cancer, He's been very vocal about his players

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Speaker 1: getting vaccinated. Would Ron Rivera want to bring in Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton to Washington had him in Carolina? But you know,

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Speaker 1: that might be one of those if Ron is talking

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Speaker 1: to him saying Cam, I'm not going to entertain this

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Speaker 1: until you get vaccinated. I don't know if it comes

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Speaker 1: down to that, but it might, Yeah, Paul, And going

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Speaker 1: back to what Tom Kernan was saying about Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: it may not even be like, not even close to

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Speaker 1: a political thing or a vaccination thing. Anything that doesn't

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Speaker 1: jibe with what the team is trying to do is

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Speaker 1: a violation to the team. Anything that takes you out

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00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: for a reason. Maybe that's why Bilichick maybe looked at

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Speaker 1: that way. The rules for unvaccinated players are not the

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Speaker 1: same as those it's for those that are vaccinated. But

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Speaker 1: it's clear that COVID nineteen is you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: going to be avoided this year, and really regardless of

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Speaker 1: the vaccination status, because you just reduce your chances here.

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Speaker 1: But the test is different. Unvaccinated players in personnel must

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Speaker 1: quarantine if contact tracing determines they are a close contact

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Speaker 1: to a positive case, as was the case with Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: Vaccinated players in personnel do not. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that impacts Cam Newton. Would I be surprised? No? I

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Speaker 1: mean I can't be surprised now with Cam Newton being

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Speaker 1: released and probably saying if I'm not the starter, then

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Speaker 1: release me and maybe I get a chance to latch

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Speaker 1: on with somebody else. Yes, Polly, I have one more

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Speaker 1: pole question. You have to answer it instantaneous. Okay, yes?

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Speaker 1: Save it or not save it? Is that the question

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Speaker 1: that great? Okay? Should I save it? Or should I

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Speaker 1: do it now? No? Do? No? Okay, Yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: If all, if we've seen all his best work, is

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton in the Hall of Fame? No? Hard? No? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Three time a Pro Bowler League MVP has not been

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl since that year twenty fifteen. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he has the numbers. He's got the rushing

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Speaker 1: touchdown numbers, He's got thirty two thousand yards one hundred

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Speaker 1: ninety touchdowns passing, and then you mix in his rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: He's a he's at I thought he was two years away,

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Speaker 1: two Pro Bowl years away from being a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: How many rushing touchdowns does he have? Seventy that's good

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Speaker 1: for a running back in their career. Yeah, um, about

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Speaker 1: sixty nine of those are one yard buns that were

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Speaker 1: supposed to be the half half back. And um, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, mc club.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, you know who is throwing

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Speaker 1: a party right now? The Patriots running back room might

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Speaker 1: actually see the ball in the red zoe. Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: We take him all the way down to the one

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Speaker 1: yard line and then Cam comes in and runs for

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, and you get it because he's ever stopped.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten in on it pretty much every time he's

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Speaker 1: ever tried to do that. Yeah, but Brady would always

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Speaker 1: do that one yard sneak too. They're like, okay, Tom,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, get your sneak in there. Yeah. Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: has more rushing touchdowns in his career than O. J. Simpson.

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Speaker 1: I mean Hall of famers. Thurman Thomas, Ricky Williams, Todd Gurley,

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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, Eddie George all have fewer touchdowns than their

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Speaker 1: career than Can Doon. Yeah, isn't there that narrative that

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is better quarterbacks better at quarterback sneaks than anyone?

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Speaker 1: Haven't we heard that before? Is that true? Or is

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Speaker 1: he just being selfish? And well he's the most successful

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Speaker 1: just the percentage of getting the first down. Nobody sneaks

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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady sneaks. How many rushing touchdowns to You

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Speaker 1: can't really say rushing touchdowns for Brady. His longest rushing

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Speaker 1: touchdown is one yard. Now, just get checking, because I

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Speaker 1: mean it's not a rushing touchdown, it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a rushing touchdown. How many We'll take a break, see

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Speaker 1: if you canna come up with how many over under

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Speaker 1: twenty five? Twenty touchdown? I'm gonna save it. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: take a break. We're back after this. We'll check in

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Speaker 1: on the New Orleans Saints and they're going to be

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Speaker 1: able to host that game against the Packers. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to your phone calls as well. Back after this and

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Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan

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Speaker 1: the Peacock Act. All right, prior to the break, how

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Speaker 1: many rushing touchdowns does Tom Brady have? Cam Newton is seventy?

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Speaker 1: Is he adding to that total this year? Having been

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Speaker 1: released by the Patriots? All right, Paul Brady in twenty

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Speaker 1: one season has rushed for one thousand yards, which is

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Speaker 1: about fifty yards a year. He averages one point six

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Speaker 1: yards per carry. Okay, career all right? How many touchdowns

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Speaker 1: does Tom Brady have? Who wants to try to guess? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Your guess is in it is? Yeah, you said twenty

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Speaker 1: five before the break? Oh no, I was saying, is

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Speaker 1: there an over under? It's twenty five and that's what

847
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: he got. Twenty five career rushing touchdowns for Brady. I'm

848
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: giving you this one fully, Okay, Tom has twenty five

849
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown yeah, okay. His career long rush is okay,

850
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: over under four yards when he was young, he had

851
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: to run for his life a little bit. He ran

852
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: for twenty two yards. No, but a touchdown that I

853
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's a scramble. Yeah, I remember

854
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: he ran for twenty two but what what's as long

855
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: as touchdown run? It might be four yards? Were double

856
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: checking you might have that right, bless you, McLeman. We'll

857
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: check in with the Saints coming here. No, I could

858
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: hear it. Isn't this supposed to be soundproof class that's

859
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: in between us? Or was your microphone on? Yeah? I was,

860
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: we'll talking. Oh, it picked up on about that. Yeah.

861
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: Joel in Indiana? Hi, Joel, what's on your mind today?

862
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: Hedb summer of sixty eight seven pounds thirteen ounces pre

863
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: espin baby, and I would think there would be at

864
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: least a half a dozen teams that would want Cam

865
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Newton just was espionage and insight to the scheming and

866
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: and the inside play calling for the Patriots. I mean,

867
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: if you're Buffalo, well they got Mitchell Trubisky, I would

868
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: keep Mitchell Trubisky then bringing Cam Newton. Yes, someone tweet

869
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: us the Jets should do exactly that. They every one

870
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: a week two and they need a backup. But Cam

871
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: has to be willing to be a backup, and I

872
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: don't think he is. He doesn't want to go to

873
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: backing up Mac Jones, backing up Zach Wilson. Yes, Like

874
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: there's no question who the quarterback is with the Jets.

875
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: At least there was a little bit of a question

876
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: with mac Jones there. The New Orleans Saints have picked

877
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: their star quarterback, Jameis Winston. Jeff Duncan covering the team

878
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: New Orleans Times pickyun sports columnists, let me start with

879
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: that season opener. Given the weather and we still have

880
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: some time. Here is their contingency plans if the Saints

881
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: can't host the Packers that opening weekend. Jeff, Yeah, Dan,

882
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: they're working on that right now. I mean, the situation

883
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: is so fluid, as you can imagine in New Orleans.

884
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: The power outage is catastrophic. The entire city is still

885
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: out of power, and so there's so many other priorities

886
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: right now in the city beyond a football game. And

887
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: we just talked to Sean Payton this morning. They look

888
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: like the Saints are gonna set up shop in the

889
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: Dallas Fort Worth area for at least the next month

890
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: or so. And he mentioned that they've even looked into

891
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: possibly playing their home games over in Dallas at AT

892
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: and T Stadium. I think that's one of the ideas

893
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: they're knocking around. But there's just so many moving parts here.

894
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: They're trying to make roster cuts today and get players

895
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: out of there, and they've got families members all in

896
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: the hotel and they're gonna have to move hotels. So

897
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: it's a crazy situation, very unprecedented. Well, as you mentioned that,

898
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: their masters at somehow finding a way to figure these

899
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: things out. And so is this city? How is this

900
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: city prepared now as opposed to previous hurricanes. Well, the

901
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: sixteen billion dollar hurricane protection levy system certainly is the

902
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: biggest difference. I mean that withstood all the Ida floodwaters,

903
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: and that was really one of the great success stories

904
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: of this storm. Unfortunately, the power outages have become a crisis,

905
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I was asking some of my

906
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: colleagues this morning, as a major American city ever been

907
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: without power for two to three weeks. I don't know.

908
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: We're trying to find that out. We've certainly have become

909
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: accustomed to these unprecedented natural disaster situations and the Saints

910
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: understand this from what they went through in Katrina. You

911
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: can come back to play a football game, but what

912
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: are the living conditions. There's not going to be any

913
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: schools open, there's going to be no healthcare, hospitals or

914
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: already taxed with the COVID situation, there's no running water

915
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: or power. You don't want to be in those conditions.

916
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: And so Sean Payton and Mickey Lewis, the general managers,

917
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: they've been through this a bunch of times, and I

918
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: think they understand the best thing they can do is

919
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: find a safe harbor somewhere else and operate from there.

920
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: But Dallas is going to be the home away from home,

921
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: maybe for a month, and then they may just commit

922
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: to playing the home games in Dallas. That's what it

923
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: sounds like. They looked into Oxnard, California, Sean's experience with

924
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's where they have their training camp. They've

925
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: been watching that on hard knocks. That's set up perfectly

926
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: to house a football team. There's a hotel right there.

927
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: It's just too far logistically for the Saints to travel.

928
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: Their first four games are all in the East Coast

929
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: of the United States, so it made no sense to

930
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: fly back and forth to the West coast. They looked

931
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: at the Greenbrier, where they had a training camp from

932
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen in West Virginia. There were

933
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: some logistical issues there, so it just makes sense for

934
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: them to set up shop. And who knows, this could

935
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: work out better and they could get back quicker. So

936
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: for them being close by and a short plane ride,

937
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, is certainly makes more sense right now. And

938
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: I have to say this, I mean, this is a

939
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: huge I know none of us are going to feel

940
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: sorry for NFL owners, They've got deep pockets, but this

941
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: is an extraordinary expense for the States organization, having to

942
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: put up family members and two to three hundred people

943
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: in a hotel for at least a month. How patient

944
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: is Sean Payton going to be with Jameis Winston. That's

945
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: a great question. I'm eager to see it. He insists

946
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: Dan that his offense is more user friendly, more quarterback

947
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: friendly than the offense is Jamis Winston has played in

948
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: the past. We're gonna find out. We're going to see

949
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: if Jamis can avoid those bad Jamis mistakes. And it's

950
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: not just the turnovers it's it's sacks. He holds the

951
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: ball much longer than Drew Brees did, and I think

952
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: some of those things all of us are going to

953
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: find out, including Sean Payton, in the season once they

954
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: start operating against real NFL defenses. Is Taysom Hill the

955
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: backup quarterback? Like, what is his designation on the on

956
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: the rosters he back to being just an all purpose player?

957
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: Is somebody else the backup quarterback? I think the way

958
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: it'll play out is tam If a long term injury

959
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: affected Jamis Winston, Taysom would be the starter. But in

960
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: a game during the week when Taysom has been operating,

961
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: uh preparing to be the jack of all trades gadget guy,

962
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: he would not come into the game as the backup.

963
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,479
Speaker 1: It would probably be some whoever that is Ian Book

964
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: or Trevor Simmon. We don't know yet who's going to

965
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: be the backup. But then if it were long term,

966
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: Taysom would go back to leading the team the way

967
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: he did last year. Jeff, I know you've got a

968
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: lot to write about and certainly a lot to explore

969
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: here over the next month, and hopefully that city is

970
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: able to bounce back it's resilient but going through it again.

971
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Jeff, Yeah, thanks for having me

972
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: on Dan appreciate it. That's Jeff Duncan, New Orleans Times

973
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: Spicka Yune sports columnist. Yeah, the Dallas situation going to

974
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: be there for at least a month and then maybe

975
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: playing your home games there. That's why I was curious,

976
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: and I told Fritzie, I said, reach out to Jeff

977
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: because I think that that opening weekend game against Green

978
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: Bay is in jeopardy in New Orleans just because of

979
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: the power outages. YEAHMI club, is that just a major

980
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: disadvantage if they did have to play in Dallas. Oh,

981
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: that's a great home field advantage in New Orleans when

982
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: getting fans back after not having fans. And you know,

983
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: if you're Jamis Winston, you want familiarity for him as

984
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: he's going to start for the Saints and now you're

985
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: you're coming in, You're gonna you're gonna succeed Drew Breeze.

986
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think they're a great team. I think

987
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: they're a good team, and I guess it depends on

988
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston if they're going to be a great team.

989
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: But I think that's still a very formidable team there.

990
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: And if you look at the NFC, how many teams

991
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: have a legitimate chance to win the NFC? You certainly

992
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: have Tampa, Green Bay. You can look at three of

993
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: those teams in the NFC West, but it feels like

994
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: they're going to be knocking each other off. Anybody in

995
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: the NFC East. Washington, Well, if you could combine Dallas

996
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: with Washington, you would have a great team. Good idea, Yeah,

997
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: but they that's a rivalry and they don't like you

998
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: finally have a defense in Dallas. The line. Yeah, who

999
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: else am I leaving out here? Falcons, Carolina? I guess

1000
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: I'd guess I'd put in the Saints. But I mean,

1001
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: you probably have five teams right now. I don't know

1002
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: if there's a team that gonna come out of nowhere.

1003
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna go wow, didn't see that happening? Like,

1004
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: is Minnesota capable of doing that? Yeah, Paul. But the

1005
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: NFC West, it's like you like them all, but you

1006
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you love any of them. Yeah, because

1007
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: anyway they all they all seem to be You can

1008
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: make a case, you can make a case for all

1009
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: three being good enough to play in an NFC title

1010
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: game and the Cardinals are going to knock off somebody.

1011
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: They'll play the spoiler role again. Yeah, mclev Cardinals heavy

1012
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen All Star team. They we're gonna get see

1013
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: jj watt, aj Green all these names. We forgot her there.

1014
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: But nobody's talking about them. Is anything more than an

1015
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: A and eight team. I haven't heard them predicted in

1016
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: the conversation. Well, they would be either nine and eight

1017
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: or eight and nine. Yeah, that's why they're not talking

1018
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: about them going eight and eight. They could be eight

1019
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: and eight going into their final game of the season. Um,

1020
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: it's just a tough that's a tough division. You know,

1021
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: you expect the Rams to be good, the Niners and

1022
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: UH and Seattle. Trey Lance is gonna miss a week.

1023
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: He's got a chip I guess out of his finger.

1024
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: Um so, but he wasn't starting. What does that mean?

1025
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: A chip out of your finger? Um? Did you get

1026
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: thee Oh yeah, by the way, they said it's no

1027
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: big deal. That sounds like a big deal for a quarterback,

1028
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't say which finger it was. It's always

1029
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: like when they say, oh, it's minor surgery, it's not

1030
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: minor surgery. The person has surgery having had surgeries. When

1031
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: they go, oh, yeah, that's a minor surgery, I go,

1032
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: they still put me under Yeah, Paul, I got the

1033
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: article and they the forty nine ers won't say whether

1034
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: it's his passing hand or not his pass hand. Doesn't

1035
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean it is his passing hand, because if it

1036
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: wasn't his passing hand, they would trumpet that it's not

1037
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: his passing hand. Come on, Uh, we were talking last

1038
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: hour about this, Uh, this faux high school in Columbus, Ohio,

1039
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: Bishops Samore, and they played on national TV over the

1040
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: weekend on ESPN against IMG Academy out of Orlando, which

1041
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: is a very real high school team. And then we

1042
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: started thinking about the sports hoaxes of all time. Now,

1043
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: this team isn't good. They didn't win a game last

1044
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: year and they got blown out by IMG Academy. But

1045
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: when you think about Danny Almonte in the Little League

1046
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: World Series was dominating. He was a household name. Thought

1047
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: he was gonna go from Little League World Series to

1048
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: the Yankees. Rosie Ruiz, she won the Boston Marathon. Manti

1049
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: Teo with the fighting Irish and his fake girlfriend. That

1050
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: might be the wildest one of our career because that

1051
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: Manti Teo was a face of Notre Dame. They're playing, well,

1052
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: they're back, They're in the National championship. Picture a defensive

1053
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: player with the face of the team. And there's a

1054
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: story about his grandmother passing away and his girlfriend passing

1055
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: away and all these articles and then dead Been dropped

1056
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: that story one morning and we all had to soak

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01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: it in. But go back and read that. But also,

1058
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: at at one point he knows it's not true, and

1059
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: Notre Dame knew it wasn't true, and then you're just

1060
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: kind of let's hold on until you know the playoffs

1061
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: are over. Yeah, Paully, if you read the article when

1062
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: he's sitting there at the Heisman ceremony, it's in question

1063
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: whether he knew he was being scammed or didn't know

1064
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: he's being scammed. He's on national TV at the Heisman ceremony, dang,

1065
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: and and he yeah, at one point he knew it.

1066
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: But then what do you say you got cat fished?

1067
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: Because this is one of those Oh it's Notre Dame

1068
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 1: and the media is gonna fall Oh my god, this story. Oh,

1069
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: let's where this is a thirty for No, not thirty

1070
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: for thirty. This is like a sequel to Rudy There.

1071
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna have the Man Tight Tail movie. Yeah, tone,

1072
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: how could some allow himselves to be catfished? How humiliating?

1073
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: How could that happen? It didn't happen to you, thankfully.

1074
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean it happened to you, it just didn't happen

1075
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: at that level. Jennifer Love Hewett is still very much alive.

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: She is. Yeah, But we thought that we were. We

1077
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: had reached out to Jennifer Love Hewitt and we thought

1078
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: we were getting her on. And Todd had some communication

1079
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: and emails, and then I kept saying, Todd, she has nothing.

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01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: She will have nothing to do with this show. Agency

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: Wilster Boulevard, Santa Monica decided had the right zip code

1082
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: and everything from this aged person. Oh yeah, boy. There's

1083
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: a Nevada high school football player about a decade ago,

1084
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: and he was a decent high school football players, a

1085
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: big offensive lineman and he held like a you know,

1086
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: the ceremony where to have the three hats at the

1087
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: high school. Yeah. I'm not gonna give about this kid's

1088
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: name because I'm sure he wants to move on from this,

1089
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: but he was a decent high school football player. He

1090
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: decided to have one of those Sarah morn. He's in

1091
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: his high school gym that local reporters came and he

1092
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: put three hats out like us LA cal and organ

1093
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: and he goes, I've decided to take my talents to

1094
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: cal He put the hat on, the whole high school

1095
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: goes crazy. Unfortunately, he was not being recruited by cal

1096
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: usc UCLA or any other school. He made up the

1097
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: whole thing. He was not being recruited by anybody, but

1098
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: he did the whole ceremony in front of his whole school,

1099
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: talked to the local press. Now he claimed that he

1100
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: was duped into believing he was being recruited to play

1101
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: in the pack tent. And then I guess he admitted

1102
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: that he made up the whole story. When you see

1103
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: him put on the hat and the gymymnasium is backed

1104
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: and he puts it on and then he stands up.

1105
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 1: Now he looks like he's a pretty good sized kid,

1106
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: but he stands up and people are celebrating. So if

1107
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: this was a scam by him, what was his plan

1108
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: for the next day. I don't know what happens when Hey,

1109
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: I thought you were playing college football it didn't work out? Like,

1110
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: what do you say, do you then have to go

1111
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: to Cow? Walk on? I don't even know if he

1112
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: could get into Cow. What happened about with that Spanish

1113
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: Paralympic basketball team scandal? Okay, so in the two thousand

1114
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: Olympics Paralympics, a team from Spain. The majority of the

1115
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: players on their team were not in any way eligible

1116
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: to be in the Paralympics. They were they were not eligible,

1117
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: and they scammed the team and they put normal athletes

1118
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: in the in the wheelchairs, and uh, some officials with

1119
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: the team they want And the problem is they won

1120
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: the gold medal, but they weren't. They weren't Paralympians, whatever

1121
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: phrase you want to use. They were not eligible to

1122
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: play in the Paralympics. And they the whole basketball you know,

1123
01:03:54,800 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: the wheelchair basketball team was ineligible and they scam people

1124
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: and they go on the gold and then it came

1125
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: out that they were not Paralympians. Yes, Todd, is there

1126
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: a worse type of cheating than that? It cannot be

1127
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: a worse story that pretending that you need to be

1128
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair or that you're a paraplegic to win

1129
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: a medal? Are you kidding? Me? Disgusted by that? Really?

1130
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: I can't toad sum it up. Yeah. I like how

1131
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: we bring up something from twenty one years ago. That's

1132
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: the wheelhouse, and Todd is just getting your outlay. What

1133
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: is boiling right, Yeah,