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Speaker 2: of catching your breath, how about Ohio State thirty five

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Speaker 2: to ten college.

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Speaker 3: Football Playoff Round one? A little bit of a dud?

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Speaker 3: Jay Martin? How you doing today?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: Doing all right? Watched a lot of football. Feels like

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Speaker 5: this day has been about three days long, doesn't it?

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Speaker 5: I think because these games have been, you know, less

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Speaker 5: than you wanted them to be. But I don't know

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Speaker 5: that that's entirely unexpected either. And we're gonna get into

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Speaker 5: a lot as a regard certainly the playoff, but also

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Speaker 5: circumstances surrounding the teams that got in all the debates,

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Speaker 5: all the controversy, all of those kinds of things. But ultimately,

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Speaker 5: and I'm i admit I'm a little surprised by this one,

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Speaker 5: not because Ohio State's not a good football team, but

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Speaker 5: because Tennessee hasn't been able to do anything. Samson going

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Speaker 5: out didn't help, But pretty much the home teams have

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Speaker 5: been the forest superior clubs in all four of these games.

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Speaker 5: And it turns out that Clemson, of all teams, ends

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Speaker 5: up really giving the best effort against their opponent. And

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Speaker 5: Tennessee might have thirty thousand people in the shoe, but

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Speaker 5: they did. They must. They needed a lot more, They

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Speaker 5: needed a lot more. Yeah, I don't know how many

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Speaker 5: of them are still there, but whew boy. Home field

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Speaker 5: advantage I think I will mention right off the top.

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Speaker 5: These atmospheres are phenomenal, but if you're a road team,

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Speaker 5: who this is quite an advantage to have. How loud

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Speaker 5: these stadiums have been. I would argue Texas was probably

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Speaker 5: the most subdued of the four, and that game was

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Speaker 5: the closest. Notre Dame was insane, Penn State was nuts.

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Speaker 5: Ohio State has been incredibly loud as well. It's and

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Speaker 5: you see these delay of games and these timeouts being

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Speaker 5: wasted because they can't get Blake calls in. It is

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Speaker 5: very difficult to be a road team in these on

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Speaker 5: campus year one playoff games.

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Speaker 2: So I think, you know, and I didn't have the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to listen to Jason Smith and Mike Harmon last night,

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Speaker 2: but I think obviously look to start the playoff with

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Speaker 2: the manner in which Indiana performed. It was twenty seven

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Speaker 2: to three with under five minutes to go before they

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Speaker 2: scored two late touchdowns, scored a touchdown, we're covered an

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Speaker 2: on side kick, et cetera. I think if you had

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Speaker 2: asked you know, Mike Harmon and Jason Smith at you know,

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Speaker 2: late last night, if you had asked Jonas Knox and

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Speaker 2: everybody that was that was, you know, hosting this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: I think the early conversation was, ah, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, did the committee get it right?

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Speaker 4: And you know what would would Ohio would uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: would Alabama or Old miss have done a better job

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Speaker 2: SMU or Indiana. But what I do think, as the

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Speaker 2: day has gone on, has become obvious. Is exactly what

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Speaker 2: you just said, Jason, is that you know we're blessed

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Speaker 2: more often than not. When we did this show, as

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Speaker 2: Ohio State has scored again a Travion Henderson touchdown run

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Speaker 2: makes it forty one to ten extra point pending Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: it is officially a beatdown. Listen, you know there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be we We have three hours to break down a

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Speaker 2: lot of things, not just in college football, but certainly

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Speaker 2: college football, to playoff how the first round went. But

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Speaker 2: I think you're being disingenuous if the takeaway that you

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Speaker 2: really hard to win on the road in college football.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's an Indiana thing. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's really hard. We're on this this time slot every

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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff has proven that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it is. It's a bear. And especially

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Speaker 5: that's not the case for Tennessee. In Knoxville tonight, it's

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Speaker 5: I don't look at that quite the same. But you know,

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Speaker 5: just still being in there and fighting as hard as

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Speaker 5: the teams that are hosting in general are better football

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Speaker 5: teams to have better players. Notre Dame had better players

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Speaker 5: and you add that on top of the atmosphere. But

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Speaker 5: that's the benefit. You get a home playoff game, that's

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Speaker 5: the reward. Yes, you have to play one extra you

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this game specifically, So Ohio State for

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Speaker 2: j Mart, you know, you know, I know you and

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Speaker 2: I talked about it. I'll be honest, I'm really thinking

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Speaker 3: I don't really think I heard.

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Speaker 2: Anybody making the strong case like oh Ohio State's gonna

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Speaker 2: I think there were a lot of people that thought, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're the more talented team, they're at home, they're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you know, let's just talk about it.

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Speaker 2: You and I have been as critical as anybody of

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Speaker 2: Not just my opinion, it's everybody's opinion. You have every resource,

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Speaker 2: every this, every that. And when we've been critical of

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Speaker 2: win the Big Ten four straight years. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I'll say this. He actually took some heat this week

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Speaker 2: what is your takeaway of Ohio State? Was it just

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Speaker 5: I mean, I do think they came in with a

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Speaker 5: gotta stop because this is what I'm thinking about midway

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Speaker 5: through the third quarter. Now, revisionist history is a dumb

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Speaker 5: saw a comment at one point I was just looking

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Speaker 5: I thought it was ignorant, and it just said, how

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Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, Ryan, you need to explain this one

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Speaker 5: that game mattered or not. That's irrelevant to me. Whatever. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the talent and twenty million dollars roster and the coaching

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Speaker 5: how is it I'm watching tre Von Henderson the way

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Speaker 5: watching Jeremiah Smith, and I'm watching these receivers down the field,

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Speaker 5: wasn't good. How do you lose that game? Like? Are

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Speaker 5: you just good? But you just can't beat them? Ever, Like,

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Speaker 5: I don't understand how this football team lost to that

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Speaker 5: This Ohio State team right here, this one I've watched tonight,

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Speaker 5: will win the national championship. Well, there's no guarantee that

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And what I was gonna say, was this Ohio State

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Speaker 5: And I think mediocre is a dumb way to put it.

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Speaker 7: Maybe he needs to make a little decision as offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 7: They need that's what they do. They need to open

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Speaker 3: They can be really quick, Mike, And I think that's

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Speaker 7: Absolutely? I believe it's had been an offensive coordinator problem

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Speaker 7: this year. Oh too much conservative against Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's my here's my next question for you.

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Speaker 2: How frustrating was it watching tonight seeing Ryan Day and

436
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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator Chip Kelly completely open it up. You're

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Speaker 2: chucking it to all those five star receivers that we've

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Speaker 2: heard so much about three weeks ago against Michigan. You're

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Speaker 2: trying to shove it down their throats and you're getting

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Speaker 2: blown up four yards of the backfield.

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Speaker 3: How frustrating was it?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: How it must have been enjoyable but also frustrating at

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Speaker 2: the same time.

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Speaker 3: Am I right?

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Speaker 7: What it's like? What the hell are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean. I mean there's talent all

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Speaker 7: over the place. I mean yeah, we've got the high

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Speaker 7: snow money spad utilize it, utilize it, spread, spread it around.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't sold on Will Howard at all until tonight.

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Speaker 2: That that's kind of a problem. I mean, it's weak.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the thirteenth game. It's the end of

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Speaker 2: December here, Jamar, do you have anything for Sean or

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Speaker 2: for Mike? We do have another caller on the line, Jamar,

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Speaker 2: did you want to add anything with Mike?

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Speaker 5: No, I got to comment just on what he said.

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Speaker 5: He's Mike, we appreciated minority, and I think I think

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Speaker 5: that's the important thing that he said. Uh he said,

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Speaker 5: I'm in the minority, and I wonder how much in

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Speaker 5: the minority he is when he says that. I do

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Speaker 5: think to the Michigan point real fast, I think that

463
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Speaker 5: Ohio State, for whatever reason, wanted to prove how tough

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Speaker 5: they were are and try to beat Michigan at their

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Speaker 5: own game instead of playing Ohio State football. And we've

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Speaker 5: seen teams try to do that against Kansas City and

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Speaker 5: fall apart. We saw Baltimore get away from what they're

468
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Speaker 5: known for against them. We've seen other teams do that

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Speaker 5: through the years. I think they wanted to out tough

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Speaker 5: Michigan instead of actually beating them, they wanted to beat

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Speaker 5: them in a certain way, a certain style, and as

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Speaker 5: a result, you've got Jeremiah Smith sitting They're twiddling his

473
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Speaker 5: stumps down the field while you're trying to ground and

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Speaker 5: pound against Michigan, where Sharon Morris just got a giant

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Speaker 5: smile on his face.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, listen, there's no doubt that if that's the

477
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Speaker 2: Ohio That's the frustrating part if you're an Ohio State

478
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Speaker 2: fan is the fact that exactly what Mike just said,

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Speaker 2: you had the time. I mean, it was the first

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Speaker 2: drive of this game. You could see they were like,

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Speaker 2: oh crap, We've been listening to all of the noise,

482
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Speaker 2: all of the talk radio, all of the whatever people

483
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Speaker 2: listen to these days, podcast, radio shows, whatever, and that

484
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Speaker 2: was the number one could play. You didn't need to

485
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Speaker 2: be a football expert a former coach to know, hey,

486
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Speaker 2: they got a lot of really good wide receivers and

487
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Speaker 2: for some reason they decided not to throw to them.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the phone number is one eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 2: nine six six three six ' nine. If you are

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Speaker 2: an Ohio State fan, we do want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, by the way, has or excuse me, uh Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: did you score?

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Speaker 3: It's forty two to seventeen Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: We'll get the ball back with a little under two

497
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Speaker 2: minutes to go and pretty much ice theclock. They have

498
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Speaker 2: already played three different quarterbacks in this game. Will come

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Speaker 2: back if you have any questions. If you're an Ohio

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Speaker 2: State Ohio State fan, excuse me, call us again one

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six six three six nine. In the meantime, though,

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Speaker 2: while we wait for your calls and come back, talk

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Speaker 2: more playoff. Let's get it over the news test first

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Speaker 2: time this evening. Steve de Seger, what is trending?

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Speaker 3: My friend?

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Speaker 8: Hello, gentlemen, you mentioned the law somehow Ohio State dropping,

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Speaker 8: and I think we can say somehow now dropping the

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Speaker 8: game against rival Michigan not too long ago. In the

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Speaker 8: fourth quarter of that game, Ohio State gained ten yards

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Speaker 8: and allowed over one hundred. First quarter tonight, first three drives,

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Speaker 8: three touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred five yards in the first quarter. I looked

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Speaker 2: up and two hundred five yards in the first quarter.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee had negative three. It's unbelievable. And j Mart's right

516
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Speaker 2: is where was this for Michigan. It's it's crazy. I

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Speaker 2: don't find yeah.

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Speaker 8: Meanwhile, in total yardage now is about four to sixty

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Speaker 8: for Ohio State, about two sixty for Tennessee.

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Speaker 9: It's a forty two to seventeen.

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Speaker 8: Buckeyes lead at home with about two minutes to go

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Speaker 8: against the balls. And keep in mind your college football

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Speaker 8: history as we start this best of what twelve team

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Speaker 8: playoff as of last night the Notre Dame win that

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Speaker 8: began things. So we have four first round games and

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Speaker 8: four blowouts. Really, but that's just in keeping with what

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Speaker 8: we've seen from a majority of college football playoff games,

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Speaker 8: even when it was a fourteen playoff, going back about

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Speaker 8: a decade in fact, including tonight, this makes thirty four

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Speaker 8: playoff games total. Twenty four of the thirty four have

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Speaker 8: been decided by double digits. Let's not forget blowout losses

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Speaker 8: in playoff games from TCU and Oklahoma and Notre Dame

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Speaker 8: and Florida State and Michigan State and Washington.

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Speaker 9: And on and on and on over the past decade.

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Speaker 8: Ohio State at home winning tonight against Tennessee so. Number

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Speaker 8: one ranked Oregon, which is off until it's Rosewold quarterfinal,

537
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Speaker 8: will face the Guys January first, a rematch of a game,

538
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Speaker 8: by the way that Ohio State lost thirty two to

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Speaker 8: thirty one at Oregon in mid October. At Texas today,

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Speaker 8: the Longhorns leg Clemson thirty one ten in the third

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Speaker 8: quarter thirty eight twenty four the final. Penn stayed at

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Speaker 8: home in the Cole led SMU twenty eight nothing at halftime.

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Speaker 8: Final thirty eight ten for the Nitney Lyons, who will

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Speaker 8: now face Boise State next. That'll be on New Year's

545
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Speaker 8: Eve in the Fiesta Bowl. The Texas Longhorns go to

546
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Speaker 8: a New Year's game the Peach Bowl against Arizona State.

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame dominated at home last night, led Indiana twenty

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Speaker 8: seven to three late in the game. New Year's Night,

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Speaker 8: the Irish against number two Georgia, which is off until.

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Speaker 9: That Sugar Bowl quarter final.

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Speaker 8: Two NFL games today at Kansas City, the Chiefs now

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Speaker 8: fourteen to one beat Houston twenty seven to nineteen. Texans

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Speaker 8: wide receiver Tank dell As hospitalized with a serious knee injury,

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Speaker 8: including a reported dislocated kneecap. At Baltimore, Ravens over the

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Speaker 8: Steelers thirty four to seventeen. That game was tied late

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Speaker 8: third quarter. Derrick Henry twenty four carries one hundred and

557
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Speaker 8: sixty two yards. The Ravens clinch a playoff spot. Saints

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Speaker 8: running back Alvin Kamara is out for the Monday night

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Speaker 8: game at Green Bay due to a groin injury. Baseball

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Speaker 8: Hall of Famer Ricky Henderson passed away at the age

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Speaker 8: of sixty five. The Yankees agreed to a one year

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Speaker 8: deal with first baseman Paul Goldschmidt. The Diamondbacks acquired All

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Speaker 8: star first baseman Josh Naylor from Cleveland. He'll be a

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Speaker 8: free agent after next season. The Guardian signed first baseman

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Speaker 8: Carlos Santana. The late game in the NBA is now

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Speaker 8: a final at Phoenix. Detroit beat the Suns one thirty three,

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Speaker 8: one twenty five despite forty three points from Kevin durant As.

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Speaker 8: Suns guard Devin Booker is out at least two games

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Speaker 8: with a groin injury. Dallas won, but Luka Donzich of

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Speaker 8: the MAVs was out again with a bruised heel. Mavericks

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Speaker 8: beat the Clippers one thirteen ninety seven Kyrie Irving in

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Speaker 8: the win six of twenty five, shooting for fifteen points.

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Speaker 8: And the other late game was at San Antonio Spurs

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Speaker 8: over Portland one fourteen ninety four Victor Wembenyama thirty points

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Speaker 8: and ten blocks. And on Fox tonight a top ten

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Speaker 8: women's basketball game USC winning at Yukon.

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Speaker 3: I believe our team that.

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Speaker 9: Sounds perly, that's the show's team.

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Speaker 8: Yes, they lost at home seventy two seventy against the

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Speaker 8: women of Troy as Juoji Watkin scored twenty five points

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Speaker 8: Connecticut on free throws in this close game was ten

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Speaker 8: of seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Desager.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era towards

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tyrack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Salty Ryan Day. They have just put

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Speaker 2: in their fourth different quarterback in this game. Lincoln kind Holes,

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Speaker 2: who you may remember jmart was the third string quarterback

589
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Speaker 2: in the Cotton Bowl that you and I were stuck

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Speaker 2: covering last year around the holidays. If you remember Kyle

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Speaker 2: McCord basically left the program. Devin Brown gets hurt, Lincoln

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Speaker 2: kind holes. I don't know if he has played the literally,

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Speaker 2: I guess. I guess he's taken a few snaps this year. No,

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Speaker 2: I stand correct that he has not played since last

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Speaker 2: year's Cotton Bowl. Is officially in this game, the fourth

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Speaker 2: different quarterback in this game.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about salty chip on his shoulder?

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Speaker 3: Ryan Day?

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Speaker 5: J Mart, Well, remember what he said about Lou Holtz.

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Speaker 5: He's got this in his bag, like every once in

601
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Speaker 5: a while he starts feeling himself and he does this

602
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Speaker 5: a bit. The one thing they need to be real

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Speaker 5: cautious about here. And I see it on the sidelines

604
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Speaker 5: and they're showing it like I've got it on mute

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Speaker 5: and everything.

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Speaker 2: This is like the signe anything. Remember they're they're making

607
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Speaker 2: fun of Ohio, They're making fun of Indiana. Next week

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Speaker 2: they get their butt kicked by Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like my takeaway here is, yeah, you guys dominated,

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Speaker 5: but it's not over. I don't mean the game. I

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Speaker 5: mean this season. Like you have to go play a

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Speaker 5: team that beats you already once you've got other really

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Speaker 5: good football teams coming up and and this is the

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Speaker 5: only one that you have in your building, so the

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Speaker 5: whole Like, I understand you're going to playing a rose

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Speaker 5: and so you've got a rose in your mouth and

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Speaker 5: all this other kind of stuff like, Okay, you can

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Speaker 5: I guess you can do that. But I just feel like,

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Speaker 5: let's not be too exuberant here or too arrogant on

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Speaker 5: the sidelines. Yes, you won, but you're just now making

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Speaker 5: it to the quarter finals. Let's save some of that energy.

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Speaker 5: And I actually think they're doing a better job after

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Speaker 5: the game of just kind of walking around. They're not

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Speaker 5: acting ridiculous here, and that's exactly what they need to do.

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Speaker 5: There's still a lot of business left to be transactive

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Speaker 5: for Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt And yeah no, I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: really anything else to add there.

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Speaker 3: You know, I do think it's funny.

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Speaker 2: And listen, I'll say this is like, you know, we

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Speaker 2: were very critical of them three weeks ago, We've been

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Speaker 2: very critical of them throughout his time at Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: He deserves this moment. Rub it in a little bit,

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Speaker 2: have fun. I know you're the Ohio State coach. I

635
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Speaker 2: know you're expected to compete for national championships every year,

636
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Speaker 2: but you were the better team tonight. You absolutely deserve

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Speaker 2: to win. Before we get to a k Jmart. We

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Speaker 2: only got a minute or two left. I mean, is

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Speaker 2: there anything big picture, small picture from this first round

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Speaker 2: that we learned, like now that we've lived through, you know,

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Speaker 2: basically four blowouts. Again, I said it earlier, I think

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Speaker 2: it's a little hard to pull that Indiana shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been there, SMU shouldn't have been there, And I think

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Speaker 2: it's just, Hey.

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Speaker 5: We just need more time to talk about that, and

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Speaker 5: we have plenty more show. We just need more time

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Speaker 5: to talk about that. I think that the one thing

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Speaker 5: that we have shown so far is that this system

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Speaker 5: has done what you would think it would do on paper.

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Speaker 5: The four teams that got the home games won. Those

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Speaker 5: four teams proved that they were better than the other

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Speaker 5: four teams on this given game, and that's the only

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Speaker 5: game that matters in this case. But you still got

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to quash some of the arguments that you

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Speaker 5: would have had if some of those teams had not

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Speaker 5: gotten their opportunity to show, or in this case not

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Speaker 5: show that they could actually get the job done. In

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Speaker 5: this case, Ohio State just showed up with the talent

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Speaker 5: and when they do that, I don't know that there's

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Speaker 5: anybody in the country that can beat them.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State does close out the win, final score forty

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Speaker 2: two to seventeen. They will advance to the Rose Bowl

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Speaker 2: on January first to face Oregon. By the way, j

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Speaker 2: Martin and I will be in for Jason Smith and

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon the night of January first, so we will

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Speaker 2: be on probably for the end of the Rose Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and we will no, I guess we won't be but

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Speaker 2: we'll be on after the Rose Bowl and tell you what,

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Speaker 2: jmart Georgia Notre Dame and the Sugar Bowl to cap

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Speaker 2: off January first.

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna have a lot of fun with

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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 2: So Fox Sports Radio eron towards Jason Martin broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Tyreck dot Com studios. Top next hour, we'll

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Speaker 2: look at some of the NFL from this week, and

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Speaker 2: I think jmart maybe top of our three will discuss

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Speaker 2: exactly what you just said, the state of the college

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Speaker 2: football playoff after the first round.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, though, do want to.

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Speaker 2: Get a little bit serious as baseball lost an icon

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Speaker 2: over the course of twenty four hours. We will talk

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Speaker 2: very quickly about the passing of Ricky Henderson. That's next

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torres Das Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the tyreck dot Com studios. We'll get back to college

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Speaker 2: football in just a little bit, and do want to

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the two NFL games on

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Speaker 2: Saturday momentarily before we do. J mart you know, think

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Speaker 2: I'd be remiss and I think we would both be

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Speaker 2: remiss if we didn't spend just a few minutes talking

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Speaker 2: about the passing of Frankly just, you know, a baseball icon,

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Speaker 2: a guy that I think, you know, so synonymous with

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Speaker 2: the sport for so long. I mean, you know, played

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Speaker 2: till well into his forties, twenty five year Major league career. I'm,

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Speaker 2: of course talking about Ricky Henderson, who passed away late

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Speaker 2: Friday into Saturday at the age of sixty five. You know,

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Speaker 2: over three thousand hits. MLB all time steals leader with

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Speaker 2: fourteen hundred, all time score score run scored leader with

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Speaker 2: over twenty two hundred, closer to twenty three hundred. American

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Speaker 2: League MVP two time World Series Champ. I it's just

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Speaker 2: sad man, you know, I mean, listen, sixty five is

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Speaker 2: obviously a great fulfilling life. But I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's just because he played so late into his life.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't realize he was quite so old. And

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Speaker 2: this was a little bit of a shocker to me

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Speaker 2: when I heard it. But Ricky Henderson, all time great

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Speaker 2: Steeles King, passed away yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Jmark.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was definitely surprised too. I think that one

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Speaker 5: of the things I always really kind of it will

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Speaker 5: always be in my mind when I'm thinking about Ricky

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Speaker 5: Henderson is what he represented. When's the last like baseball

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Speaker 5: player particularly that said things sure that were newsworthy, just

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Speaker 5: about how great he was. He always talked about how

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Speaker 5: phenomenal he was and all this kind of stuff, but

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Speaker 5: he was He was one of those kind of personalities

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Speaker 5: that baseball doesn't have. Baseball has awesome players that don't

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Speaker 5: say anything, and you know, you can argue that in

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Speaker 5: a lot of sports, but he was a personality in

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Speaker 5: addition to being all time great, he was able to

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Speaker 5: back up what he said and there was something kind

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Speaker 5: of endearing about that, like, yeah, you probably didn't care

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Speaker 5: for him very much if he was playing against you,

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Speaker 5: because he probably stole a base against you or did

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Speaker 5: something like that. But like we all knew who Ricky

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Speaker 5: Henderson was. Everybody did. Even if you didn't watch baseball

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Speaker 5: all the time, you knew who Ricky Henderson was if

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Speaker 5: you watched sports or paid attention at all to what

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Speaker 5: was happening in a sporting landscape. I think there are

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Speaker 5: very few contemporary team sport athletes that you just know

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Speaker 5: from their personalities, like there are a few. I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying there's nobody, but Ricky Henderson was one of those

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Speaker 5: from an era where there were truly larger than life

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Speaker 5: personalities that weren't just awesome at what they did, but

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Speaker 5: also reveled in it and had fun with it when

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Speaker 5: it felt like it was more competitive and it was

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Speaker 5: allowed to be more competitive and more adversarial. And I

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Speaker 5: think that that it's I'm saying that as a compliment

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Speaker 5: because I miss when sports felt that way. I don't

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Speaker 5: know that it does. I think we live in a

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Speaker 5: great age when it comes to the sports that we're

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Speaker 5: privileged to watch in the athletes we get to see,

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Speaker 5: but there is a bit of edge that you don't

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Speaker 5: get very often that Ricky Henderson was was an embodiment of.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's funny if you read the obituary on

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Speaker 2: you know, on ESPN dot com, they they talk quite

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Speaker 2: a bit about that. I'm trying to find the exact quote,

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Speaker 2: you know, first of all, ripping the base out of

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Speaker 2: the dirt when when he obviously uh set set the

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Speaker 2: Steels record or the Steels record, which was incredible. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to find some of the quotes. You know, the

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Speaker 2: story goes that, you know, he told this story when

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Speaker 2: he was you know, obviously alive, but his mom went

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Speaker 2: into labor on the way to the hospital and was

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Speaker 2: delivered in a and he always used to tell the story, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was always fast. I was you know, I always

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Speaker 2: had speed to burn. And then there was just some

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Speaker 2: other stuff about you know, some of the ways that

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Speaker 2: you know, some of the things that he said, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, all of that.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say, like the thing that stands out to me,

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Speaker 2: I think that part is definitely one one of the

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Speaker 2: things that stands out. I think the other thing is

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Speaker 2: just the incredible longevity of his career. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: you look at the fact that you know made his

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Speaker 2: first All Star team in nineteen eighty and then won

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Speaker 2: a League MVP ten years later in nineteen ninety. You

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Speaker 2: know one you know made his first All Star team

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty, made a World Series and won a

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Speaker 2: World Series thirteen years later with the Toronto Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: as a key kaga on that team. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just you know, I don't know, it's I just think

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Speaker 2: more than anything, I think, you know, the confidence, the

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Speaker 2: swagger stood out. I also just think the longevity, like

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Speaker 2: I said, playing until two thousand and three at the

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Speaker 2: age of forty five years old.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well mean he's gonna be missed, but he one

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Speaker 5: of those that again, even if you didn't get to

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Speaker 5: see him, if you're younger in our audience that really

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Speaker 5: didn't get to watch him, you know somebody who can

784
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 5: tell you about Ricky Henderson. You know somebody if you're

785
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 5: listening to sports or radio, there's somebody in your life

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Speaker 5: that you can go to and say, tell me about

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Speaker 5: Ricky Henderson and they'll have something for you for sure.

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Speaker 5: And of course you have the wealth of the Internet

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Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff to go and read

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Speaker 5: some of the classic news articles, and there'll be some

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Speaker 5: nice tributes I think in the next couple days, probably

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Speaker 5: some really funny stories and some really interesting stuff. So

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Speaker 5: if you were not alive to watch Ricky do Ricky things,

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Speaker 5: go out of your way to seek out some information

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Speaker 5: over the next couple of days, I think you'll be

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Speaker 5: delighted with what you find. And if you're a sportsman,

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Speaker 5: it's hard not to one just think of how great

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Speaker 5: he was, but also just I mean, he was an

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Speaker 5: incredibly just fun person in sports. He was somebody that

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Speaker 5: would you always wanted to pay attention to what Ricky

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Speaker 5: was doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. I just think he was synonymous.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to think of an example, maybe

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Speaker 2: Steph Curry with the three whatever, but you know, with

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Speaker 2: with speed, with stolen bases, with one part of the game,

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Speaker 2: I think as much as anybody you know.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's funny, you know, I was joke.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ryan Fowler and I obviously we had no

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Speaker 2: idea this was going on. But you know, Ryan Fowler

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Speaker 2: always calls me Ricky Henderson because I lead off his show.

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Speaker 3: You know, hey, hey, you want to come in.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ricky lead off the show, first guest of

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Speaker 2: the night, you know, and so Ricky Ricky Henderson is

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Speaker 2: so synonymous with the leadoff batter, the steals, to this,

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Speaker 2: to that. Just sad to see him go at the

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Speaker 2: age of sixty five. He passed away on Friday, short

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Speaker 2: shortly before, by the way, his birthday, which was Christmas Day.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jay Smart, will come back two

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Speaker 2: NFL games on Sunday, our Saturday. Excuse me, you got

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Speaker 2: to break them all down heading into another busy Sunday.

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Speaker 3: That's all. Next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to some college football in a minute.

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Speaker 2: All of the college football is final. The most recent scores.

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Speaker 2: The SEGA just told you Ohio State with the statement

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Speaker 2: forty two to seventeen victory. We will get back to

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Speaker 2: that in just one moment.

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Speaker 3: But we are a national radio show.

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Speaker 2: We are, of course, you know, cover as stuff beyond

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Speaker 2: college football, and as fun as the college football was today,

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Speaker 2: there were of course two NFL games as well.

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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and break them down.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the two games that were played today, Kansas City

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Speaker 2: facing Houston and of course Baltimore taking on Pittsburgh. How

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00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: about a little choose your own adventure, j Mart, Which

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Speaker 2: game to you is more intriguing, more interesting, more noteworthy

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Speaker 2: needs to be discussed. I'm gonna give you the floor.

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Speaker 2: I think I know where you'll probably go, but I'll

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Speaker 2: give you.

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Speaker 3: The floor, my friend.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's Baltimore. I agree for me,

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Speaker 5: I mean the first game. Notwithstanding, again the Chiefs win,

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Speaker 5: and it is hilarious to continue to hear about how

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Speaker 5: vulnerable they are and they're fourteen and one. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 5: super vulnerable, but they keep winning all these close games.

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Speaker 5: But how do they keep doing well? Because you end

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00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: up making your own luck when you're that kind of

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00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 5: team and have that kind of quarterback and you have

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Speaker 5: just that coach and all the stuff that plays into it.

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Speaker 5: They're fourteen and one, But the big one was Baltimore

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00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 5: because they needed to get the Steelers monkey off their back. Anyway.

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Speaker 5: Lamar has struggled his entire career against Pittsburgh, as have

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Speaker 5: many that have dealt with them in the AFC North

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Speaker 5: in the Mike Tomlin era, but this needed to be

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Speaker 5: a statement win because Baltimore was leaking a little bit

867
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 5: of oil. They just hadn't looked as dominant in the

868
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks. It just things didn't look quite right.

869
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 5: And I think just as important as the win was

870
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 5: you get Derek Henry back on track. He goes for

871
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: over one hundred and sixty on the ground, Your defense

872
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: steps up and makes a couple of big plays that

873
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: stops Steelers drives, force turnovers. Those are the kind of

874
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 5: things that you need to show up at this point

875
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 5: in December because you're getting to that one and done

876
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: scenario for everybody that is playing, and I think this

877
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 5: is the kind of win that if you're Baltimore, this

878
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 5: is a confidence building win, and this is one you

879
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 5: really wanted. You did not want to be swept this

880
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 5: year by the Russell Wilson Pittsburgh Steelers, and there was

881
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 5: certainly danger of that happening. So I think this was

882
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 5: more of a statement win for Baltimore than Kansas City

883
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: beating a I would say underwhelming this season and disappoint

884
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: winning Texans team that's been ravaged, I will argue as

885
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 5: well with injuries and now has lost Tank Dell for

886
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 5: the year.

887
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the Baltimore Pittsburgh thing is interesting

888
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: just because obviously they're now tied in the division. Baltimore,

889
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: of course, you know, will play Houston on Christmas Day.

890
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh of course now has case on Christmas Day and

891
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: then raps with the Bengals. We know the Bengals have

892
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: some weird playoff scenarios, but they all pretty much involve

893
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: having to win that game. So it's not gonna be

894
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: easy for Pittsburgh to close the door there. Let me

895
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: ask you this, jam Mart, as far as Pittsburgh is concerned,

896
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: I think we've all, you know, you get off to

897
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: the hot start justin fields, of course, was the starter

898
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: to start the season. You're kind of winning games with

899
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: smoking mirrors. Then Russell Wilson comes in and kind of

900
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: steadies the ship. But I think we all kind of thought, okay, like,

901
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean, what is this really you know, is he

902
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: really gonna go toe to toe with Josh Allen and

903
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and even Lamar Jackson in the playoff? And

904
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: you know, this is a good story, and I've always

905
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 2: been more of a rough guy than I think most

906
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: in the media.

907
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: But it's also like, what does this really mean in

908
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 3: the bigger picture?

909
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: Well, I bring it up because on Saturday he played

910
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: fine two hundred and seventeen yards, passing about six and

911
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: a half yards per completion, two touchdowns, one interception. The interception,

912
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: of course, was returned for a touchdown a pick six

913
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: at a crucial time. Is this just kind of Pittsburgh

914
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: kind of fin you know, what do they say? Water

915
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: finding its level? They're ten and five now five and

916
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: four obviously have lost the last two games to two

917
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: of the better teams in the league, at Philadelphia at Baltimore,

918
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: And it is this just who they were always destined

919
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: to be, kind of a team that's probably a wild card,

920
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: probably opens on the road, probably is one and done

921
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: in the playoff Or am I being a little bit

922
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: overly dramatic given that, of course, one they're still tied

923
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: to top the division, but then two you know there's

924
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: still a lot of season left to be played.

925
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's more of the former. I

926
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 5: think there is a bit of a regression to the

927
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: mean when you look at Pittsburgh because here's kind of

928
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 5: how they feel to me. And with tom On, I

929
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 5: think you've always got a chance. I'm just as big

930
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 5: a tom On fan as you'll find. But and TJ. Watt,

931
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 5: presuming he's healthy, he's a game changer unlike just about

932
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 5: anybody else in the sport on that side of the ball.

933
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: But this has sort of a penthouse twoenty twenty three

934
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: Browns feel to it to me where Joe Flacco came

935
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 5: in from nowhere. But what were they really going to

936
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 5: do in the playoffs once they got there? But they

937
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: had a great defense. They have Miles Garrett playing out

938
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 5: of his mind. They were able to run the ball,

939
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 5: and Flacco was just doing enough and he was throwing

940
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: a couple of domes and he was doing some things.

941
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 5: Russ kind of came back from the dead too, right Like,

942
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 5: when you think about it, he was sort of he

943
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: was basically flacoed because of what happened in Denver, and

944
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 5: you weren't sure if he was ever even going to

945
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 5: become the starter in Pittsburgh. He does. He shows a

946
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 5: little bit of old us. He seems happier, the team

947
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 5: seems a little bit more bought in all of that,

948
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 5: But there's still like this sense of, yeah, but what's

949
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 5: gonna happen when you get to January with this team?

950
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 5: The one thing you don't want to have to do

951
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 5: is go play in their building, And because of the

952
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks, it feels like it's less likely

953
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 5: that you're gonna have to do that. So I think

954
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 5: it's more likely that you know, you get in it's the

955
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 5: wild card, and you probably lose in the first week.

956
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 5: Maybe you even get through that game. I don't know,

957
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 5: but I think the divisional round is the ceiling for

958
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: this club.

959
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: I think that's totally fair. And that's why I ask

960
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: is that I do think I think that exactly what

961
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: you just said. The divisional round feels like the ceiling.

962
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: I think we all came in and we all knew

963
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: how tough the schedule coming in was. And and listen,

964
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: I think most people did not have them in the playoffs.

965
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: But even in a situation where you know, they had

966
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: some early season success, I think we all kind of

967
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 2: felt like Water was going to kind of meet its level.

968
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: And I think it really has and I think they'll,

969
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: you know, it'll be what it is as they get

970
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: set to face the Chiefs on Christmas Day.

971
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 3: That is the early game.

972
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 2: I believe on Christmas Day, let's get to the other one,

973
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: Kansas City at home. They obviously took on the h

974
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: They took on the Houston Texans. As you said, Texans

975
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: with an injury. I I don't know if I mentioned

976
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: this to you, J Mart, this is gonna sound bad.

977
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: You know, listen, we were privileged to host sports talk radio.

978
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: We're privileged to, you know, have our job be to

979
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: talk about sports. I find the Chiefs to be just

980
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: literally the least interesting team in the NFL. I just

981
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: to me, it's almost like I was thinking about this.

982
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: I think the best analogy that I can really think of,

983
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: and I think it's interesting given what we're gonna probably

984
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: talk about in the next segment, But you know, remember

985
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: those years when Lebron was with the Calves and this

986
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: was like, you know, the second Calves run when he

987
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: was really at the peak of his powers, and maybe

988
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: even the later Miami years where it was like didn't

989
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 2: really matter if he got in as the two seed

990
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: or the three seed or the five seed. It was

991
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: kind of like you felt like, Okay, he's gonna win

992
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: the East and then it's gonna come down to what happens.

993
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: With Golden State, it's not apples to apples, But with

994
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: k C, it's just like they're not playing well. You know,

995
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: you know, Saturday they were completely fine. There was nothing,

996
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 2: you know, spectacular about the effort. There's nothing terrible about

997
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: the effort. But I just sit there and I'm like,

998
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't you know. I just I know they can

999
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: win games in the regular season. Maybe they get a

1000
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: little benefit of the doubt from the refs whatever, but

1001
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: it's just like, I just want to see again, can

1002
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: Baltimore beat them, can can Buffalo beat them?

1003
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 5: Whatever?

1004
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: By the way, I and it's not just I need

1005
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: to see somebody beat them for me, to enjoy the

1006
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: NFL because I love watching Buffalo, who's the best watch

1007
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 2: in sports right now. I love watching Baltimore when they're clicking.

1008
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: I love watching the Lions and the Eagles and thinking

1009
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: about how they could potentially match up if they were

1010
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: to face Casey in the Super Bowl. But it's just

1011
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: I just with the Chiefs. It's no disrespect. Again, they

1012
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: win twenty seven to nineteen, as you said, you know,

1013
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: crushing injury to Tank Dell in that game for the

1014
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: for the Texans. Texans, of course, by the way, still

1015
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: control their their destiny in the AFC South. You know,

1016
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: they're basically in already, and so but anyway, I'm rambling,

1017
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is it's no

1018
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: disrespect to the Chiefs. I just don't really find them

1019
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: interesting at all this year.

1020
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 9: I don't know how you mean.

1021
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 5: It's kind of like, I mean, they kind of remind

1022
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 5: me of the Spurs.

1023
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 3: Sure, maybe that's a better example.

1024
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: I mean, they win when it counts, but they're not

1025
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 5: exactly the most exciting team to watch on a week

1026
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 5: to week basis. They certainly haven't been this year. I

1027
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 5: thought that Worthy was going to give them that Tyreek

1028
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 5: Hill dimension. He's still young and he hasn't really developed

1029
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 5: yet as a full on receiver, although he's still you know,

1030
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 5: he shows a lot of flashes. But and Mahomes, of course,

1031
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 5: is always gonna be fun to watch. And I think

1032
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: that's where your lebron comparison is accurate. But yes, would

1033
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 5: I like to see the Bills in Super Bowl this

1034
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 5: year if my Denver Broncos weren't able to make it, Yes,

1035
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 5: absolutely I would. I want to see if Josh Allen

1036
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 5: can actually climb the mountain in what I think is

1037
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 5: gonna be an MVP season for him and get it done.

1038
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 5: Or Lamar Jackson, or the incredible story of the Lions,

1039
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 5: who are if they do it now, they're gonna have

1040
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: to overcome unfathomable injury luck. I almost think that it's

1041
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 5: not gonna be their year because they just keep losing

1042
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 5: so many guys and I don't know how they're going

1043
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 5: to continue to win under that clip. And there's a

1044
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 5: lot of controversy and drama on a lot of these teams,

1045
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 5: and that's never really the case in Kansas City. That's

1046
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 5: the other thing. There's always talk we can talk in

1047
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 5: the off season about the Bills and what happened with

1048
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs. And you've got Ty Dunn and his expose

1049
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 5: on Sean McDermott, and then you've got you know, various

1050
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: things about Lamar's contract situation. And then you've got aj

1051
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 5: Brown versus Jayalen Hurts, and you've got Nick Sirianni and

1052
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 5: all this. No, Andy Reid's really good. Patrick Mahomes is

1053
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 5: really good. Travis Kelsey, even though he's lost a bit

1054
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 5: of a step, he's still really good. And he's gonna

1055
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 5: walk right into the Hall of Fame. Chris Jones is

1056
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 5: going to walk right into the Hall of fame. They're

1057
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: just really good. They're fundamentally sound, and generally they never

1058
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 5: beat themselves and they give you plenty of opportunities to

1059
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 5: beat you, and that generally is what happens. And that

1060
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily make for the most captivating television on a

1061
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 5: week to week basis. The saving grace for it is

1062
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 5: that Mahomes is so much fun to watch. However, this

1063
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 5: year he hadn't been that much fun to watch because

1064
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 5: he's winning with like two hundred and five yards and

1065
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 5: the thing that makes him great is that he can

1066
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 5: make the four or five plays a game that other

1067
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 5: guys somehow won't finish, that they either are incomplete, or

1068
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: they come up a little short on a first down

1069
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 5: run or whatever it is. He's got five or six

1070
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 5: plays a game that he makes that other guys don't,

1071
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 5: and that separates him in a lot of ways. But

1072
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 5: I don't think that they have been a blockbuster action

1073
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 5: flick this year at all. I think they've been. They've been.

1074
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 5: They've been kind of paint dryish to watch, and of

1075
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 5: course we've gotten our full helping of them in prime time.

1076
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: Well, we've gotten our full hupping in prime time. By

1077
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 2: the way, to pseudo correct something that I said, I said,

1078
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: the Texans largely own their their path in the AFC South.

1079
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: They have obviously clinched the AFC South, So I apologize

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00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: for that. But yeah, no, no, with with Case, like

1081
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: you said, we've gotten plenty of them in primetime real quick,

1082
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 2: you know, Christmas Day. Do you have any big picture

1083
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: takeaways about what to expect from that Steelers game. I mean,

1084
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: both teams obviously are gonna be on a weird short week,

1085
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: and obviously, look, I mean you know, obviously you know,

1086
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: Case still has to win this game to officially clinch

1087
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: the number one seed in the in the NF, in

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00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: the AFC. Excuse me, any any thoughts on this one

1089
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: before we get to break talk some other stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's kind of hard to say.

1091
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 5: It's gonna be at Pittsburgh and that's gonna be a

1092
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 5: tough place for them to win, and you feel like

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00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 5: the Steelers are going to want to try to get

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00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 5: back on the winning tip there, and I think that

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00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 5: that's I don't know. I mean, again, it's tough to

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00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 5: pick against the team. It's fourteen and one with Patrick

1097
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 5: Mahomes that keeps out, keeps on pulling out close games.

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00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 5: And I mean, I was going to say they're on

1099
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 5: a crazy streak, but they're fourteen to one. Their whole

1100
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,720
Speaker 5: season has been a streak. Their lone loss was to Buffalo,

1101
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 5: which they'll probably have a chance to xize in the playoffs,

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00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: you would think, but I guess it's just how they

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00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 5: show up. Because the Bills have a pretty easy schedule

1104
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 5: in terms of their road to potentially get the one seed.

1105
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 5: You could easily see them finish this thing off undefeated.

1106
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 5: I mean, they play against the Patriots twice in the Jets.

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00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 5: That's their last three games, so I think that's the

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00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 5: indicator if you can if you can see US acenario

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 5: where for some reason the Patriots where to beat them

1110
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 5: tomorrow beat the Bills, then I think, yeah, I'd feel

1111
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: pretty good about the Steelers going into that game. But

1112
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 5: it's really hard to pick against Mahomes in December. So

1113
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 5: I still think I would favor Kansas City.

1114
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas City traveling to Pittsburgh on Christmas Day, and

1115
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: then of course Baltimore playing Houston as.

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00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 5: Nobody'sn't watch it anyway. Watching the NBA?

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00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoa NBA? Well, I'll tell you what. Let's come

1118
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: back and talk to the NBA.

1119
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, because one of our colleagues who I love, had

1120
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: a very interesting take on why nobody is watching the NBA.

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00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 3: I will say this really quick, Jamar.

1122
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting because you gotta go seek out

1123
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: the NFL on Netflix and where is it. We'll see

1124
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: if there's buffering issues like there was with the Jake

1125
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: Paul and Mike Tyson fight. That NBA is going to

1126
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: be all over ABC and ESPN, so we'll see if

1127
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: America finds the NBA on Christmas Day. My hunches they

1128
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 2: won't and one of our colleagues with a very interesting

1129
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: theory on who's to blame for the NBA's tanking ratings.

1130
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: Who could that be? Will discuss it next.

1131
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio rators

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00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios.

1133
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: Hope everybody is having a great holiday season, last minute shopping,

1134
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: driving around, maybe Christmas parties tonight. We appreciate all of

1135
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: you tuning in. Should mention, by the way, football fans,

1136
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 2: be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday

1137
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,200
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1138
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,560
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1139
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 2: a professional better Bill Krakenberger will have you covered three

1140
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: hours before kickoff. Every Sunday morning. Listen to account Down

1141
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,640
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1142
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: Radio and the iHeartRadio app, jaymart Do you want to

1143
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: switch gears from college football to the NFL? Do you

1144
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about the NBA? And

1145
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: one thing that we did discuss last week, Ja mart

1146
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: was kind of the jarring, you know, statistics on the

1147
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: NBA viewership, it's down forty eight percent.

1148
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 3: From twelve years ago.

1149
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: So basically, the NBA has basically lost half their audience

1150
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: over the last decade and change. And obviously a lot

1151
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: of it was spurred by the by the play In Tournament,

1152
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: which of course was down significantly from last year. By

1153
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 2: the way, Jamie, I want to get to some stuff,

1154
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: one of our colleagues said in a minute, But I

1155
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting that the Bucks chose not to

1156
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: do a champagne celebration for the play In Championship. So

1157
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 2: this big thing that the NBA tried to shove down

1158
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: our throat. It's meaningful. This is supposed to matter. It's

1159
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: the biggest deal in the world. You are supposed to

1160
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: care if you're a real sports fan. Even the Bucks

1161
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, we're not drinking champagne to celebrate this earlier.

1162
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 5: In the week. Good for them, thankfully. It's not a thing.

1163
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 5: I saw articles written naturally what they need to do

1164
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 5: to fix the tournament. They need to get rid of

1165
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 5: it because it's dumb. Because we all have a tournament

1166
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 5: at the end of the season in pro sports that

1167
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 5: determines the champion. We're watching it in college football right now,

1168
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 5: we're a few weeks away from beginning it in the NFL.

1169
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 5: We finished watching it in the Major League Baseball and

1170
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 5: the Dodgers won, but they didn't win it in April.

1171
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 5: They wanted at the end of the season. This whole

1172
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 5: thing is just please watch our games before the All

1173
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 5: Star break. Please watch our games before the stretch run.

1174
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 5: That's not a good thing. It really isn't. And as

1175
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 5: creative as that solution might be, nobody is watching this

1176
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 5: and expecting it to work, Like, stop trying to make

1177
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 5: fetch a thing. It's not a thing. Like it's just

1178
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 5: you cannot make me watch that and think that it

1179
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: actually matters, and that even the players even care about it,

1180
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 5: Like it's just just just make them regular season games

1181
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 5: and just go ahead and play your regular season. There

1182
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: are other issues that we certainly could talk about. Lebron

1183
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 5: came out and made the three point argument. Everybody's making

1184
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 5: the three point argument. I don't know what you do,

1185
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 5: but that's why I said. You can call me a

1186
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 5: curmudget all you want. I said, erase the three point

1187
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 5: line completely. Is almost the only rule change. Like some

1188
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 5: of the other things you've been able to fix like

1189
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 5: guys being able to back dudes down for fifteen seconds

1190
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 5: or hold the ball for minutes at a time by

1191
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 5: inventing the shot clock and all this other kind of

1192
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 5: stuff to fix these exploits. This one, this is a

1193
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 5: glitch in the matrix. I'm not sure you can fix

1194
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 5: because you have a three point line that you had

1195
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 5: moved in for a while to add more offense to

1196
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: the game. Now you've moved it back a bit, but

1197
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 5: you got guys shooting from thirty five feet who shoot

1198
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 5: twenty three percent but then still pull up. I don't

1199
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 5: know what the fix is there, but I think that

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00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 5: every problem that we have discussed for years about the NBA,

1201
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 5: and it irritates me because I love the NBA and

1202
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 5: I want it to be better.

1203
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: It appears we lost j mart I'll tell you. Look

1204
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: at Steve de Sager the saga. This is a pro

1205
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: right here, he threw on the headphones. We could go

1206
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: ahead to the saga for a quick update.

1207
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 8: I have something on this as well, because what was

1208
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 8: Thursday night in sports, the usual Thursday night football, but

1209
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 8: for most of the country it's not on a regular channel.

1210
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm streaming, yeah, in a second ago finish what you're

1211
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: gonna say first, But I have a question, what does

1212
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: that go up against the NBA with the regular TNT

1213
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: doubleheader Thursday, and we also had the women's volleyball playoffs

1214
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: going on on ESPN.

1215
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 8: The Thursday night TV rate in sports where Broncos Chargers

1216
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 8: eleven million viewers, Women's volleyball semifinals on ESPN averaged one

1217
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 8: point one million viewers and it beat the NBA. Had

1218
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 8: no way it beat both NBA games. The NBA averaged

1219
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 8: about six hundred and fifty thousand viewers national wise on Thursday,

1220
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 8: and that included a Knicks Timberwolves game that got about

1221
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 8: seven hundred thousand.

1222
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns return game.

1223
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 8: That's correct, one of the least watch games this season,

1224
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 8: the least watched was the game right before it on Thursday.

1225
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: J Mart, I think Adam Silver just cut your mic

1226
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: because the stat that De Sager just gave us was

1227
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: that women's volleyball essentially, not quite but essentially doubled the

1228
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: NBA doubleheader on Thursday. That's putting aside everybody that was watching.

1229
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 9: Go a step beyond.

1230
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 8: If you go back to the Nebraska volleyball quarterfinal that

1231
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 8: got a better number than anything the NBA got on

1232
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 8: Thursday night. In addition, Nebraska's semi final was one point

1233
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 8: two million, which was almost double what the NBA got Thursday.

1234
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask this, We'll get back to j Martin.

1235
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: I do want your updates, Steve. So look, obviously, I'm

1236
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: a college hoops guy, and you know I don't want

1237
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: to labor. You know, oh one is better than the other.

1238
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: But here's my question for you to singer. I've noticed

1239
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: this week. You know, Wednesday night used to be ESPN's

1240
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: midweek slot. This week they had one of the bowl games.

1241
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: I think it was the California Bowl, the Gronk Bowl, whatever.

1242
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: And in previous weeks they've had on college basketball. I

1243
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: don't know if you would remember off the top of

1244
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: your head. I don't remember them having anything other than

1245
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: NBA on Wednesdays ever, but especially this time of year.

1246
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: Am I crazy? I don't know if you would remember that.

1247
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 8: It used to always be Wednesday prime time, Friday primetime.

1248
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did not this week. This past week

1249
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: they had a bowl game. I'm sure this coming week

1250
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: I believe is Christmas Day, so that'll be a little

1251
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: bit different. But they not had on NBA Basketball on

1252
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: Wednesday nights. So I'll tell you what. I want to

1253
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: continue the conversation and talk about who is really to

1254
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: blame for these low NBA ratings and interesting theory from

1255
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: one of our colleagues before we get to it though,

1256
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: to Sega, why don't you go ahead give us our

1257
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: mid hour update everything we need to know.

1258
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 8: I will add a couple weeks ago in college football,

1259
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 8: they put on prime time ABC the Two Lane Conference

1260
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 8: Championship against Army, and that got a better number than

1261
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 8: what the NBA has been getting for most of its

1262
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 8: games so far this.

1263
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: Season, doubled by women's vibeball.

1264
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: No disrespect all the hard working players at Penn State

1265
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: and Nebraska.

1266
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 3: That's embarrassing.

1267
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's yeah. And that's an apples to apples comparison.

1268
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 8: By the way, that's cable channel against cable channel.

1269
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 5: Wow.

1270
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 9: Wow.

1271
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 8: As for college football playoffs, well, we had four this weekend, and.

1272
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 9: We essentially had four blowouts.

1273
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 8: Ohio State dominated Tennessee tonight in Columbus forty two to seventeen.

1274
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 8: Buck Guy scored three touchdowns on their first three drives.

1275
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 8: Texas led Clemson thirty one ten in the third quarter

1276
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 8: thirty eight twenty four the final and Penn State All

1277
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 8: Over SMU to start the day thirty eight to ten.

1278
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 8: Number one ranked Oregon is off until its Rose Bowl

1279
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 8: quarter final against the Buckeyes, a rematch from October. Number

1280
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 8: two Georgia is off until its Sugar Bowl quarter final,

1281
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 8: which will be against Notre ed Aime New Year's Night.

1282
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 8: There were two NFL games today at Kansas City. The

1283
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 8: Chiefs now fourteen and one beat Houston twenty seven nineteen.

1284
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 8: Texans wide receiver Tank Dell is hospitalized with a serious

1285
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 8: knee injury, including a reported dislocated kneecap. He was hurt

1286
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 8: on a touchdown reception, injured by a teammate in a

1287
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 8: collision in the end zone. Tank Dell had six catches

1288
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 8: ninety eight yards in that score. Houston wide receiver Stefan

1289
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 8: Diggs is already out for the year with a torn

1290
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Speaker 8: acl Baltimore clinched a playoff spot today. The Ravens at

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Speaker 8: home beat Pittsburgh thirty four to seventeen, as Dereck Henry

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Speaker 8: had twenty four carries one hundred and sixty two yards.

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Speaker 8: Saints running back Alvin Kamara is out with a groin

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Speaker 8: injury for Monday night as New Orleans is at Green

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Speaker 8: Bay and Saints wide receiver Chris Olave is also out

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Speaker 8: with a head injury.

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Speaker 9: Derek Carr's course out.

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Speaker 8: Packers tight end Luke Musgrave is questionable for the game

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Speaker 8: after an ankle injury. Green Bay linebacker Kway Walker out

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Speaker 8: with an ankle injury. Tennessee signed kicker Brayden Arbisson for

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Speaker 8: next year. Dolphins wide receiver Jalen Waddle was listed as

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Speaker 8: doubtful for Sunday against the forty nine Ers. He'd misspractice

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01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 8: all week with a knee injury. Linebacker Bradley Chubb out

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01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 8: with a knee injury for San Francisco. Running back Isaac

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01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 8: Guarndo out this weekend with foot and hamstring injuries. Colts

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Speaker 8: wide receiver Alec Pierce out with a concussion as Indye

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Speaker 8: host Tennessee. Arizona kicker Matt Prater out with a left

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Speaker 8: knee injury. Tampa Bay tight end Kate Otten out for

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Speaker 8: Sunday night against Dallas with a knee injury. The Raiders

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Speaker 8: said quarterback Aidan O'Connell after a knee Brews will play

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Speaker 8: this weekend.

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Speaker 9: He did not play last game Jacksonville's at Las.

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Speaker 8: Vegas on Fox TV Sunday, It's Philadelphia at Washington. Philly

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Speaker 8: can clinch the NFC East. The Eagles wide receiver Aj

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Speaker 8: Brown said he will play in this one despite a

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Speaker 8: knee injury after that game on Fox for some of

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Speaker 8: the Treots. Minnesota at Seattle Baseball Hall of Famer Ricky Henderson.

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Speaker 9: Died at the age of sixty five.

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Speaker 8: He had over three thousand career hits and over fourteen

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Speaker 8: hundred stolen bases.

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Speaker 9: Number one old time.

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Speaker 8: The Yankees agreed to a one year deal with first

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Speaker 8: baseman Paul Goldschmid. The Diamondbacks acquired All star first baseman

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Speaker 8: Josh Naylor from Cleveland. He'll be a free agent after

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Speaker 8: next season. The Guardian signed first baseman Carlos Santana. In

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Speaker 8: the NBA, San Antonio beat Portland won fourteen ninety four

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Speaker 8: victor Wembin Yama thirty points and ten block shots. In

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Speaker 8: college hoops doubleheader at Madison Square Garden, North Carolina came

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Speaker 8: back to beat number eighteen UCLA seventy six seventy four.

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 8: Tar Heels were down fourteen with about ten minutes left,

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Speaker 8: and then Ohio State. What a day for the Athletic

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Speaker 8: Department beat number four Kentucky eighty five sixty five in

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Speaker 8: New York. Kentucky shot thirty percent from the floor. Buck

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Speaker 8: Guy shot fifty seven percent from the floor. And Fox

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Speaker 8: TV tonight had a top ten women's hoops game as

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Speaker 8: number seven USC was a winner at number four yukon

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Speaker 8: seventy two seventy Elsewhere, South Florida upset number nine.

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Speaker 3: Duke back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Disager.

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01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: Disager will revisit with us in just about ten minutes

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Speaker 2: from now with his extended update. Fox Sports Radio err

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Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tay Raq dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. Jmart So, before uh, before we got to

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01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: Disaga for the update, we've just been talking about the

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01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: state of the NBA. I want to play you. So

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01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: writing's down forty eight percent. Sager just told you women's

1346
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: volleyball on cable doubled the NBA in recent weeks.

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: Okay, that's that.

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01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 5: I don't even know what's saying.

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Speaker 3: Stunning, stunning, stunning.

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01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: I'm I trust to Seger, but I just I couldn't

1351
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: believe that when I heard it. It's like that is unbelievable.

1352
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: And listen, there's a million theories on what's gone wrong.

1353
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: We talked about some of them. We did get an

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: interesting thought from our buddy Jason McIntyre. Jason, of course,

1355
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: is the co host of The Herd with Colin Cowherd,

1356
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: you know, Monday through Friday. Obviously you can hear it

1357
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: on these Fox Sports radio airwaves twelve to three Eastern,

1358
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,919
Speaker 2: nine to noon Pacific. Jason mctyre, big NBA fan. Let's

1359
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 2: go ahead and play the sound of Jason McIntyre on

1360
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 2: his thoughts about what's plaguing the NBA right now.

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01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 10: This take probably won't be very popular, but I would

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01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 10: argue that Inside the NBA, the show that everybody loves,

1363
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 10: has done more damage to the NBA in the last

1364
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 10: decade than anything.

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01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: Forget about this woke and.

1366
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 5: Left and right.

1367
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 10: Inside the NBA goes on every week and just trash

1368
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 10: as players, trashes the style of play.

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01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 5: Colin.

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Speaker 10: You look at any other show, MLB network, NFL network,

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01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 10: These shows are network. We're all positive, we're excited, we're

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Speaker 10: talking about the games. Inside the NBA, they just hammer

1373
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 10: the players. Charles Barkley's on TV. The Rockets are in

1374
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 10: the final four for that NBA Cup.

1375
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh, the Rockets don't know how to play basketball.

1376
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 3: They stink, they don't know what they're doing.

1377
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 5: What are you doing?

1378
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 10: You're damaging your product on a nightly basis, hammering it.

1379
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: So that was Jason McIntyre on The Herd with Colin

1380
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: Cowhard sharing his thoughts on what is plaguing the NBA.

1381
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: I have thoughts on J Max's thoughts. But j Mart,

1382
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on J Mack?

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01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 5: I know what he's saying. And weirdly enough, and I

1384
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 5: didn't know about this audio. I suggested something to you

1385
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 5: this morning that I had found just on a random

1386
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 5: you know, one of those NBA YouTubers that spends a

1387
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 5: lot of time talking about the league, and I wanted

1388
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 5: to get just more crowdsourcing information. And they had the

1389
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 5: same take about media in general, but specifically about inside

1390
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 5: the NBA. And while I understand it, I'm also like,

1391
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 5: I mean, don't you want people to be honest, Like

1392
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 5: do we have to shill for the league that we're

1393
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 5: employed by when it's not. Yeah, maybe they are overly

1394
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 5: negative because they're critical guys. They always were. I mean,

1395
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 5: Barkley was an edgy dude who spoke and said what

1396
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 5: was on his mind. That's why we love him, Like,

1397
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 5: that's why Barkley has then who Barkley has been. He

1398
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 5: has free reign to do his thing, to say kind

1399
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 5: of whatever it is that he wants to say it.

1400
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 5: He's gonna be blatantly honest when he thinks something is

1401
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 5: not up to snuff. Shaq who cannot take even the

1402
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 5: even like one iota of criticism about himself or about

1403
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 5: his career or anything else like that. He's he's real

1404
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 5: fun until you start talking about his game, and then

1405
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 5: then things get a little bit salty real quick. Doesn't

1406
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 5: mean I don't like Shack. It just means that's just

1407
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 5: something in him that I've noticed for a long time.

1408
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 5: Shaq crushes guys repeatedly. That tends to happen when you

1409
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 5: have all time greats like Hall of famers, like arguably

1410
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 5: the best at their positions to ever play, and things

1411
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 5: like that that are watching a game that they don't

1412
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 5: recognize anymore. Like I get his point. I know exactly

1413
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 5: what Jason McIntyre is saying. It's like, Yeah, you want

1414
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 5: to be more positive. You want it to be about

1415
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 5: the good things that are happening in the league. But

1416
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 5: that's not why those guys are popular. Like it's a

1417
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 5: double edged sword inside the NBA. Hey, And I've said

1418
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 5: this before. I love the NBA. But if there are

1419
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 5: moments where I don't have time to watch the games

1420
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 5: during the week or whatever like that, I have had

1421
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 5: on you know, weekly DVR for about a decade now

1422
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,839
Speaker 5: scheduled inside the NBA, I get the NBA TV coverage

1423
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 5: because you never know when the late game is gonna

1424
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 5: end on T and T, and I want to make

1425
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 5: sure I get the entire thing, so I make sure

1426
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 5: to get one in the morning on NBA TV that's repeated,

1427
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 5: so I make sure I get the entire program. But

1428
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 5: I'm able to catch up. And sometimes that's what I do.

1429
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 5: That doesn't make me hate the league because they're critical

1430
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 5: of it. That's just that's who those guys are. They

1431
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 5: have a giant megaphone and they're blatantly honest. And I

1432
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 5: think that that's why Ernie fits, because Ernie then kind

1433
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 5: of counterbalances that by being more the everyman and more

1434
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 5: the devil's advocate to the negativity. But that negativity, to

1435
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 5: me is never like from a bad place. I don't

1436
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 5: see it as a bad spear thing. I see them

1437
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 5: being critical of things that irritate them as basketball fans

1438
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 5: and certainly as the styles that they like and the

1439
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 5: styles that they played. They see things that don't compute

1440
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 5: and they always view those and talk about those from

1441
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 5: that lens.

1442
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say this obviously. Look, we both like

1443
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: Jay mca loot great guy.

1444
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: I disagree.

1445
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 2: I think why the first of all, First of all,

1446
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 2: you can't say that no other league, no other show

1447
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: criticizes their sport because I turned our college game day

1448
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 2: to day and all I heard was how Indiana belonging

1449
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: to the college football playoffs. So you can't say you

1450
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: heard it on the broadcast last night exactly. I mean,

1451
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 2: Greg Michaelroy and Shaw mcdunough buried the Big Ten doesn't

1452
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: looks so smart now. But that's neither here nor there.

1453
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 2: But the point is one, you certainly hear other sports,

1454
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, league league issued shows criticize the league and

1455
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: criticized decisions and this and that. But two, I think

1456
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: why it feels so shocking is because, of course the

1457
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: fact that nobody else in the media is willing to

1458
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: criticize the NBA. That's why it sounds so shocking is

1459
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 2: because you don't have media that actually covers the sport.

1460
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: You have largely propaganda.

1461
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean, the NBA ratings have been dropping for a decade,

1462
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: and if you even tried to pretend that it was

1463
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: an issue, you were called all sorts of names. And

1464
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 2: you know what the names were, j Mark, because you've

1465
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,520
Speaker 2: been critical, just like I am. Oh, you don't criticize

1466
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 2: the NFL like this, Well yeah, because the NFL's ratings

1467
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: are through the freaking roof.

1468
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 3: Well you know.

1469
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 2: And it's like and then the NBA fans have every excuse, Oh, well,

1470
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: we're big in China and we're big here and it

1471
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: doesn't matter this and it's like, I'm sorry. There is

1472
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: no American based product that is perfectly okay with their

1473
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: consumers falling off at almost fifty percent over the last decade.

1474
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 2: It doesn't exist. And so to me, why the inside

1475
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 2: the the NBA guys sound so critical is not because

1476
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 2: they're that critical one, it's just because they have the

1477
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 2: biggest platform.

1478
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 5: Two.

1479
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: To your point, I would argue they have the biggest

1480
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: platform because they're honest and sincere and actually talked about

1481
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: the sport in a real way. But it also just

1482
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 2: feels so jarring because nobody else in the media is

1483
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 2: willing to have the honest conversations that they are not

1484
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 2: that they are willing to have.

1485
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's what makes them unique in space.

1486
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 5: And I don't just mean in their own sport. I

1487
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 5: mean I mean the cookie cutter stuff that you're gonna

1488
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 5: hear tomorrow leading into the NFL games with that comment

1489
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 5: here or there, maybe notwithstanding, there's no reason to watch

1490
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 5: that stuff. There was a time when there was a

1491
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 5: reason to watch that, but most of that's been replaced

1492
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 5: by the manufactured debate garbage that you get during the

1493
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 5: week every morning on all your favorite sports networks and

1494
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 5: on a lot of sports talk radio in general. Also,

1495
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 5: I feel like the difference and what has separated inside

1496
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 5: the NBA is, Yes, they are compelling and interesting. They

1497
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 5: come from a place of education certainly where they know

1498
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 5: what they're talking about. Doesn't mean they're always right, that

1499
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 5: mean I always agree with them, but that doesn't matter.

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01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 5: They're compelling and interesting. They create topics that are and

1501
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 5: their discussions and debates among themselves is the other thing.

1502
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,799
Speaker 5: Like and it doesn't feel artificial, like there's no world

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01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 5: in which I see them sitting down and say, Charles Barkley,

1504
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 5: you're going to take this position, and then Kenny is

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 5: going to say no, like there is a very off

1506
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 5: the cuff, Well, what are they going to say about

1507
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 5: this that makes you want to see them in a

1508
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 5: very genuine it's it's just different. And so I don't

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01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 5: think that that. I don't think you want to bite

1510
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 5: that head. I don't think you want to go after that.

1511
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 5: I don't think that the problem with the league is

1512
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 5: that people are saying the league's bad. No, what you

1513
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 5: need to do is figure out why they're saying it's bad.

1514
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 5: And I don't think that. I don't think that those

1515
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 5: two things work. I don't think you can beg the

1516
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 5: question there like you're assuming the thing you're trying to prove.

1517
01:13:59,040 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 5: I don't think that works.

1518
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: Tell you what we could do the conversation on the

1519
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: NBA why the ratings are failing all day? But interesting

1520
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 2: thought from Jason mcattsire. Tell you what, though, j Mart,

1521
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: we will come back.

1522
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 3: When we do.

1523
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,759
Speaker 2: We gotta get to Disager. Disager has his extended update.

1524
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 2: He does it every week around this time, and boy,

1525
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: there's so much sports going on right now I can't

1526
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: keep up with all of it. Thank you, thank thankfully

1527
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 2: to Sager's here. We're gonna just we'll throw it over

1528
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: to him. He'll get you caught up. That's all.

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Speaker 3: Next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody, Fox.

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: zayak dot Com studios. As we do every week around

1532
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: this time, let's toss it over the news desk to

1533
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 2: Sager Flores yours get us caught up out of everything

1534
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: we missed throughout the day.

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01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 8: We've got so much football to get to. But two

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 8: quick notes. First, because we had a heavyweight title fight today.

1537
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 8: The boxing champ and the heavyweight division is Alexander Usik,

1538
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 8: still undefeated, won a unanimous decision over Tyson Fury and

1539
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 8: Saudi Arabia.

1540
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 9: And there was an NBA game.

1541
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 8: At Orlando to night where the Magic trailed Miami by

1542
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 8: twenty two to start the fourth quarter and still won

1543
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 8: the game one twenty one one fourteen because the heat

1544
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 8: in the first ten minutes of the fourth quarter scored

1545
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 8: three points. Orlando, somehow, with all the injuries, is still

1546
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 8: winning some games. By the way, here are the exact

1547
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 8: numbers from the ratings from Thursday night we were talking about.

1548
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 8: The first game was Orlando against Oklahoma City. And this

1549
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 8: was not only T and T, it was on True

1550
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 8: TV as well. This is two channels combined with the

1551
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 8: TV ratings nationally, it got five hundred and sixty two

1552
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 8: thousand viewers compared to one million for Louisville Volleyball beating

1553
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 8: Pit and then the late NBA game Thursday night with

1554
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 8: Nick Timberwolves seven hundred and twenty two thousand compared to

1555
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 8: one point two million viewers for Penn State over Nebraska.

1556
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 8: You talk this hour about the Buffalo Bills. The high

1557
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 8: temperature for kickoff due to be at the most fifteen

1558
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 8: degrees tomorrow. Bills have a shot at the two seed

1559
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 8: behind Kansas City. Chiefs are now fourteen and one after

1560
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 8: to the home win today, they are that much closer

1561
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 8: to clinching the one seed in a first round by

1562
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 8: and even though Pittsburgh lost at Baltimore today, guys, the

1563
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 8: Steelers could be still the division champ and the number

1564
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 8: three seed in the AFC. They didn't clinch the AFC

1565
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 8: North title because they didn't win today, but they do

1566
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 8: have the tiebreaker advantage still over Baltimore because Pittsburgh has

1567
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 8: a better conference record. What is killing the Ravens in

1568
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 8: that is, early in the season, Baltimore blew a home

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 8: game against the Raiders. Also, the Ravens lost a game

1570
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 8: at Cleveland this year, So at the moment, even after

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 8: today's win, the Ravens are the five seed at the

1572
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 8: moment in the AFC. As for cold temperatures, three of

1573
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 8: the four college football playoff games were played in temperatures

1574
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 8: in the twenties, including tonight Ohio State's win. We mentioned

1575
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 8: the cold for Buffalo at home to the Patriots tomorrow

1576
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 8: for the Greenpay Monday night game about thirty degrees, also

1577
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 8: about thirty for the Washington home game tomorrow, under thirty

1578
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 8: for the Jets home game, out thirty degrees for the

1579
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 8: Bengals at home and the Bears at home tomorrow, And

1580
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 8: we had tempts in the thirties for the two NFL

1581
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 8: games today. We had four college football playoff games in

1582
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 8: this first round and blowouts in all four. We mentioned

1583
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 8: early in the show that a majority of the college

1584
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 8: football playoff games going back a decade have not been competitive.

1585
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 8: They've been at least double digit margin of victory ap

1586
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 8: did a great study tonight. Let's compare the college football

1587
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 8: playoff results to what the NFL playoffs have given us

1588
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 8: in that same time span over the past decade. Here's

1589
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 8: the comparison. How many NFL playoff games the last decade

1590
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 8: or so are decided by eight points or less? The

1591
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 8: answer is almost fifty five percent of the pro playoff

1592
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 8: games in college football, it's under thirty percent.

1593
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 9: Of them are decided by eight points or less.

1594
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 8: Average margin of victory in the NFL playoffs the last

1595
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 8: decade it is eleven points. College football playoffs, nineteen points

1596
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 8: is the average margin of victory, including some of the

1597
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 8: blowout we had this weekend, and that just adds to

1598
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 8: the legacy when it was a fourteen playoff. Of the

1599
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 8: amount of blowout college playoff games we're getting going back

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01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 8: to twenty fifteen, there have been games where TCU was

1601
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 8: blown out, or Michigan in or Florida State, or Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Washington,

1602
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 8: Michigan State, and on and on down the list. Number

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01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 8: one ranked Oregon is off until the quarterfinal in the

1604
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 8: Rose Bowl. It's against Ohio State. Let's keep in mind

1605
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 8: in mid October, Ohio State played at Oregon and lost

1606
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 8: to the Ducks thirty two to thirty one. Number two

1607
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 8: Georgia is off until its quarterfinal in the Sugar Bowl

1608
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 8: New Year's Night against Notre Dame, which defeated Indiana in

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01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 8: the first round. In fact, the Irish led twenty seven

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01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 8: to three late in the game. Penn State will be

1611
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 8: facing Boise State next that is New Year's Eve. In

1612
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 8: the Fiesta Bowl, Penn State beat an SMU team that

1613
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 8: had started the year eleven to one and then lost

1614
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 8: to Clemson in the ACC Championship. Lost badly at Penn

1615
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 8: State today, thirty eight to ten. In fact, SMU as

1616
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 8: a team today thirty six carries fifty eight yards rushing,

1617
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 8: including three six Kevin Jennings through three interceptions first half,

1618
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 8: two of them returned for touchdowns.

1619
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 2: To Sager, Thank you so much. That is Steve Disaga

1620
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: with his extended update to Sager. Aaron Torris, Jason Martin,

1621
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: we are taking you up till two am Eastern.

1622
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 3: We'll come back.

1623
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Speaker 2: We'll revisit a busy first day of the first we

1624
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 2: get to college football playoff atfl and more.

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Speaker 2: do you want to go ahead and start with the

1637
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Speaker 2: story of the weekend. The first ever twelve team college

1638
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: football playoff got underway, and unfortunately it didn't really totally

1639
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 2: live up to what we had hoped for. Bottom line,

1640
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 2: four blowouts in four games. On Friday Night, Indiana loses

1641
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: by tenant Notre Dame. That game really wasn't that close.

1642
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 2: It was twenty seven to three with five minutes to

1643
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: go before Indiana scores then puts in you know, converts

1644
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: a on side kick scores again. They made it much

1645
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: more competitive than it was. All the discourse was Indiana

1646
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: didn't belong at least until sm You lost by twenty

1647
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: eight to Penn State. That it was Indiana and sm

1648
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: you didn't belong because darn at Alabama and South Carolina

1649
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: would have been better. Unfortunately, from there it didn't really

1650
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: get better. Texas beats Clemson thirty eight to twenty four,

1651
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: and then in a game that went final right as

1652
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 2: we got on air around eleven Eastern time, Ohio State

1653
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 2: forty two, Tennessee seventeen. Four games, four blowouts, Jaymartin, I'll

1654
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 2: let you kind of take this wherever you want, just

1655
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: your impressions of this first college football Playoff?

1656
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 3: Does it need fixing? Does it need tweaking? Is this

1657
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 3: just what was gonna happen?

1658
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: As Di Seger said all night long, we got a

1659
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: lot of blowouts in the four team era. Is this

1660
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 2: just gonna happen or is there something fundamentally wrong or

1661
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 2: something that needs to be changed.

1662
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 5: The sport is always going to be imperfect and there's

1663
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 5: only so much that you can do. This is probably

1664
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 5: more than likely what you're gonna get a lot of

1665
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 5: times in the first round. The better teams, who also

1666
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 5: are playing at home in crazy environments are going to

1667
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 5: beat the other teams. They're gonna beat the road teams

1668
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 5: more often than not. This year, all for one handily,

1669
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 5: with Clemson really equating itself the best of the four,

1670
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 5: and the last game, which I think most of us

1671
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 5: thought was gonna be very competitive, turned out not to

1672
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 5: be at all, and it really looked like that was

1673
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 5: one of the worst first quarters I've ever seen a

1674
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 5: pretty good football team play, and I mean Tennessee's pretty

1675
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 5: good at worst, and I mean they got their doors

1676
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 5: blown off in the first fifteen minutes of that game,

1677
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 5: and it didn't get much better from there. They had

1678
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 5: a little bit of an opportunity at the end of

1679
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 5: the first half, scored, got the ball and couldn't do

1680
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 5: anything with it coming out of the tunnel, gave it

1681
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 5: back up, gave up a score, and that was it.

1682
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 5: But I think this is what you're gonna get because

1683
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 5: better teams beat lesser teams most of the time, and

1684
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 5: especially in college football, that's always been the case. Like

1685
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 5: in college basketball, you'll get the NCAA Tournament, you have

1686
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 5: a lot more games, so just by quantity alone, you're

1687
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 5: gonna have more of a chance for upsets. But the

1688
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 5: game is different. Like college football, a lot of times,

1689
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 5: talent really does show up and win out in a

1690
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 5: way that a lot of other sports you can cover

1691
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 5: because of certain other things that are happening, the frantic

1692
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 5: pace and all this. This was just one team was

1693
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 5: a lot better than the other in all four of

1694
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 5: these games. I don't think that anything needs to be

1695
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 5: tweaked though, as a result of that. And you know,

1696
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 5: there's a lot hand ringing and a lot of takes,

1697
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 5: especially on a network that the SEC spends a lot

1698
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 5: of money with and has a lot of television coverage

1699
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 5: with arguing against Indiana and arguing against SMU, and then

1700
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 5: of course they have egg on their face with what

1701
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 5: happens to Tennessee in the later game. But they're making

1702
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 5: all these arguments and all this, and it's just like

1703
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 5: and we can get into it in a lot bigger way,

1704
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 5: But I don't understand your argument. At some point there

1705
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 5: has to be a scenario in which insert team here

1706
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 5: is not worthy of an opportunity because of what they

1707
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 5: didn't accomplish in the regular season, and we can jump

1708
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 5: off it from there.

1709
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, it's interesting, And this is

1710
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: unfortunately the gift in the curse of social media, mostly

1711
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: the curse in this case of social media. Everything's instant,

1712
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 2: everything's whatever, and listen. You know, I think if we

1713
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: had done this show at ten am Pacific time instead

1714
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 2: of ten pm, we would have had a different conversation.

1715
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: Because even on College Game Day this morning, and listen,

1716
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: you know, I actually, you know I can and have

1717
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 2: been critical VESPN. I think for the most part, you know,

1718
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 2: Kirkurbstreet specifically does a very good job. But kirkurb Street

1719
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: on College Game Day this morning from Ohio State, said

1720
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 2: that Indiana did not belong in the playoff.

1721
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 5: And I thought he was. I thought he was. I

1722
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 5: actually thought he kind of embarrassed himself a little bit.

1723
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 5: Like I agree with you. I really like Kurbstreet a lot,

1724
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 5: but here I just thought he was way over his skis.

1725
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 5: I think him saying that the committee needs to do

1726
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 5: a better job. He's like, you know, Indiana had a

1727
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 5: great year. I mean, they didn't play anybody, but they

1728
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 5: won eleven games and all this. It's just like does

1729
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 5: it matter or does it not? Like does it matter

1730
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 5: that they played twelve games and only lost one of them?

1731
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 5: Does that matter at all? If not, then we don't

1732
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 5: need a season, Kirk. Let's just pick because before the season,

1733
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 5: why don't we just instead of even playing the games

1734
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 5: let's just look at the conglomeration of talent. We can

1735
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 5: factor in the money that was spent and the combined

1736
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 5: star ratings, and then the twelve teams to have the

1737
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 5: highest total. We will pick them in August and then

1738
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 5: we can just kind of simulate things but not actually

1739
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 5: play them for four months, and then come January, we'll

1740
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 5: just let those twelve teams decide it. Like, at some

1741
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 5: point the season has to matter, or we have to

1742
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 5: reveal our biases. One of those two things have to

1743
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 5: be true, because they both can't. They cannot coincide. Those

1744
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 5: two things do not work together.

1745
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 3: So I agree with everything.

1746
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 2: And that's my whole thing is that, you know, it's

1747
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: amazing that we expanded this playoffs so we could settle

1748
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 2: it on the field. This this and this, and then

1749
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: all anybody wanted to talk about was oh, well, I mean, well, well,

1750
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 2: you know, oh, Miss would have never lost a Notre

1751
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 2: Dame that way in Alabama. They would have been competitive

1752
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: against Penn State. It's like, well, they played a bunch

1753
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 2: of games and they lost them, many of them to

1754
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: inferior teams. And so you know, at some point, like

1755
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 2: you know, wins and losses do have to matter.

1756
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I think it is funny.

1757
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 2: And again it's it's the curse of social media is

1758
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 2: everything is urgent, everything is now everyone can share their

1759
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: opinions all the time, and listen, you know, there's a

1760
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: reason that old takes Exposed exists, and it's because they're

1761
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: you know, you you you are, You're sharing your thoughts

1762
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 2: in real time and stuff is subject to change.

1763
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 3: So you know, I don't know.

1764
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 2: That anybody that was arguing twenty four hours ago that

1765
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 2: that Indiana didn't belong to your point. I think the

1766
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: bigger takeaway is that I think there's really two big takeaways. One,

1767
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: it's really hard to win on neutral fields or on

1768
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 2: home fields excuse me as opposed to neutral fields. But two,

1769
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: you know, listen, I don't want to pour water on something,

1770
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: especially this is the first year and whatever, but listen,

1771
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: when you get twelve teams into any postseason, there are

1772
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 2: going to be teams that are inherently flawed. Maybe let

1773
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: me take that back, not twelve teams, but when you

1774
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: triple the number of teams in a postseason, there are

1775
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: going to be teams that are inherently flawed. And so

1776
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 2: whether it was SMU with no great wins, whether it

1777
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: was Indiana with no great wins, whether it was by

1778
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: the way, Texas that came into this playoff with no

1779
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 2: great wins, whether it was Alabama with great wins but

1780
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 2: some really bad losses. Like everyone is going to be

1781
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: inherently flawed, and so to me one, I don't want

1782
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: to hear the handwringing about this team would have done better.

1783
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 2: That team, we don't know and those if those teams

1784
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: were so good, they wouldn't have left it up for debate.

1785
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: Like the thing that cracks me up about the Alabama

1786
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,879
Speaker 2: stuff is like people are like, how did the Indiana

1787
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: get in on It's like Alabama was gonna get in

1788
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: with more losses if they had just beaten a five

1789
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 2: and five Oklahoma team with two weeks left in the season.

1790
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: And so it's not like Alabama lost its first two games.

1791
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: They had one more loss than Indiana, and it was

1792
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: a real debate. It was like they were in with

1793
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 2: more losses and then they lost another one and so

1794
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 2: but I think I guess the point I'm trying to

1795
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: make is I don't want to pour water on it,

1796
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 2: and I don't want to say that we should not

1797
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: have expanded to twelve. What I will tell you is

1798
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 2: there has never been a year in the history of

1799
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: college football where there have been twelve teams that are

1800
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 2: good enough to win it. When you get to the

1801
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 2: bottom teams that are getting in and essentially SMU and

1802
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: Indiana and you know, they.

1803
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 3: Were the last teams that got in.

1804
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: They didn't win their conference, they were the last automatic bids. Like,

1805
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 2: they're going to be inherently flawed teams. And in theory,

1806
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: could Alabama have played better than them?

1807
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 5: Maybe?

1808
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: In theory, yes they could have. It doesn't mean that

1809
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 2: it was guaranteed. And like I said, no matter who

1810
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 2: you put in in spot nine, ten, eleven, whatever, you're

1811
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: going to have in inherently flawed teams. And I think

1812
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 2: that's what we've seen over the course of the last

1813
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: twenty four hours.

1814
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 5: Listen, I one thing that you just said you talked about,

1815
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 5: could Alabama have played them tougher? Yes, and probably would

1816
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 5: have right even with even lacking evidence, because we've seen

1817
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 5: some duds from Alabama this year. Yes, they have more talent. Again,

1818
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 5: they have better players than Indiana does. But that's irrelevant

1819
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 5: like that, that's not the point. The point is that

1820
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 5: Alabama couldn't beat Oklahoma, so they don't get an opportunity.

1821
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 5: Ole Miss couldn't beat Kentucky and Florida, so they don't

1822
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 5: get an opportunity. South Carolina had a couple of close

1823
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 5: calls but lost and unfortunately, Yeah, they beat Clemson, but

1824
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 5: Clemson won a conference championship game. Yeah, I appreachi to

1825
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 5: the choir. Get rid of the championship games. They're bad

1826
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 5: for the sport. They don't make any sense anymore at all.

1827
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 5: The logic doesn't work with the college football playoff. It's

1828
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 5: all now just a money grab. There's no point in it.

1829
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 5: All that stuff, all those things are true, all of

1830
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 5: the arguments that are about you know, and I actually

1831
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 5: even heard this. I saw ESPN. I guess during our

1832
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 5: last commercial break was asking the question. I thin because

1833
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 5: Van Pelt was asking his guest. I think it was

1834
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 5: Tim Hasselback, you know what they should do? And Tim

1835
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 5: Hasselback said, we'll going forward to the committee. He needs

1836
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,599
Speaker 5: to look at who actually has a chance to go

1837
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 5: to Happy Valley. No, No, absolutely, not like because I

1838
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 5: can tell you who's got a chance. And all these

1839
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 5: kinds of things. Sports exist because things happen the whole

1840
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 5: terrible argument.

1841
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: But the whole complaint about the committee is that it's

1842
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 2: too much conjecture and eye test. Like the dumbest thing

1843
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 2: that I've heard over the last couple of weeks and

1844
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: months is, you know, we got to go back to

1845
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 2: computers because the committee is terrible. It's like, do we

1846
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 2: remember how terrible the computers were? Like literally, it just

1847
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 2: be like, oh, this team would be the number one

1848
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 2: team and then the next week they would it lose,

1849
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: they'd be number two, and nobody could explain it, and

1850
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 2: nobody had to explain it. And so I bring it

1851
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 2: up because that does crack me up of the idea, like, well,

1852
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if that's what they said, I

1853
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 2: didn't hear. But to follow up on your point, jmart,

1854
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: if the argument is well we need to think about

1855
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 2: who could go and who could do this, and who

1856
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:20,480
Speaker 2: could do that, it makes the thing more subjective, more objectives,

1857
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: and more subject whatever it is, whatever whatever TIV it is,

1858
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 2: t ive, subjective or objective. It makes it more letting

1859
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 2: people make up their own criteria as they go.

1860
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 3: And so I know I've said it a million times.

1861
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to cut you up, but I'll just

1862
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 2: be quick is that you can agree or disagree with

1863
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 2: the criteria that the committee.

1864
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 3: Used, but at least they were consistent about it.

1865
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 2: They didn't punish it if you lost in your conference

1866
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 2: championship game, and they gave the benefit of the doubt

1867
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: to teams that won more games than they lost and

1868
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 2: did not take bad losses. So it's just funny to

1869
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 2: me that it's just funny to me that somebody is

1870
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 2: on TV saying, well, we need to figure out who

1871
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 2: would be better this and a better that. And it's like,

1872
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 2: I thought your complaints ten minutes ago were that the

1873
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: committee had too much power. Now you're saying give them

1874
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: more power and disregard win loss, disregard stats, and it

1875
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 2: should just be all eye tests. It doesn't even make sense.

1876
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. So another guy I really like his Peter Burns. Oh,

1877
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 5: he was awful this week, interviewed him through the years.

1878
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 5: Really just a super nice guy. I happen to see

1879
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 5: this on Awful Announcing here. Just a minute ago he

1880
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 5: tweeted out apparently SMU and Indiana finessing their way into

1881
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 5: the playoffs by beating on the bottom dwellers of their

1882
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 5: respective conferences, and then he came back later and said

1883
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 5: for those upset that I pointed out Indiana and SMU

1884
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 5: featured on the bottom part of their conferences to finessa invite,

1885
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 5: and then point out Texas schedule. Keep that energy when

1886
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 5: the Longhorns dogwalk Clemson later this afternoon, all right, Peter,

1887
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 5: So they did win, but that's a terrible argument. Again,

1888
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 5: it's not about who's gonna go win in the playoff.

1889
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 5: It's about who earned the opportunity to play in the

1890
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 5: playoff in the first on. The truth is, the job

1891
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 5: of the college football Playoff Committee is not to go

1892
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 5: find the sexiest matchup, or the biggest brands, or the

1893
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 5: most entertaining matchup or the well, I mean, they're nine

1894
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 5: to three, but we know who should be there because

1895
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 5: we know who they don't want to play. We know

1896
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 5: people would much rather play this team than play Alabama.

1897
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 5: So we got to put it out. No, No, At

1898
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 5: some point, the season has to matter, or you just

1899
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 5: admit that you have no sport like that doesn't. The

1900
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 5: committee's job is to pick select reward and then rank

1901
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 5: the teams that, through their body of work, have done

1902
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 5: enough to earn an opportunity. It's not about how good

1903
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 5: you think you are, how good I think you are Subjectively,

1904
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 5: It's not about how many stars you have on your team.

1905
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,839
Speaker 5: It's not about your fan base size and all this stuff.

1906
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 5: It has to be about what you did during the season.

1907
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 5: And at that point in a sport where nobody plays

1908
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 5: the same teams, where you have all of this disparity

1909
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 5: and there's so much subjectivity anyway, you either let teams

1910
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 5: like fm U and Indiana in or you disband the ACC,

1911
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 5: You disband every conference that's not the SEC in the

1912
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 5: Big Ten, and you just basically have the SEC Big

1913
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 5: Ten challenge, Like throw Arizona State out too, right, because

1914
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 5: they didn't play anybody you could throw all like, do

1915
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 5: all of these arguments. It doesn't matter that Alabama could

1916
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 5: have gone to Happy Valley and given them a better chance.

1917
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 5: Alabama blew their chance because they lost three games. At

1918
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,480
Speaker 5: some point there has to be a scenario where Alabama

1919
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 5: doesn't deserve to be in a playoff, right, Like can

1920
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 5: we all agree on that? And this is coming from

1921
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 5: somebody in Nashville who is an SEC fan and who

1922
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 5: you know is married to a Tennessee fan, Like, I

1923
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 5: don't know what you want me to say in this moment,

1924
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 5: but like Lane Kiffin, stop like I understand what you're

1925
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 5: doing because you're Lane Kiffin. But all of this stuff

1926
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 5: and fine Baum and his bang Up Job Committee and

1927
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 5: all this other kind of stuff, well, I imagine they're

1928
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 5: probably a little bit quieter after watching what Ohio State

1929
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 5: did to Tennessee tonight. And that's not what I wanted

1930
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 5: to see. Is not what I was predicting was going

1931
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 5: to happen either way. I thought that game was probably

1932
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 5: going to be close. I thought Tennessee may have had

1933
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 5: the advantage going in because it felt like all the

1934
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 5: pressure was on Ohio State. But Ohio State kicked their

1935
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:35,440
Speaker 5: rear ends. Did they deserve to be in Yes, absolutely

1936
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 5: they did. Why Let mean, look at their schedule? Who

1937
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 5: did they beat? Who did they beat? That super impresses

1938
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 5: you and Texas that same argument you made it Toeres.

1939
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 5: You even made it I think on Twitter because awful

1940
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 5: announcing used your I just saw it, Indiana and Smu

1941
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 5: like you want to knock their schedule? Well, Texas beat nobody. Yes,

1942
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 5: they equated themselves well in the College Football Playoff. Okay, great.

1943
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 5: The lucky thing for Texas was even though they didn't

1944
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 5: really beat anybody of consequence, they only lost to Georgia twice,

1945
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 5: and the second one didn't count because it was a

1946
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 5: conference championship game, so they get their opportunity. So all

1947
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,719
Speaker 5: of this it reflects badly, first of all on SEC

1948
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 5: homers because it's just not a very valid argument, and

1949
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 5: then it reflects bad on the national media because it

1950
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 5: just shows the bias that's there. It's like, yeah, you

1951
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 5: say you want to give X and Y a chance,

1952
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 5: but you really don't well, and you're using everything you

1953
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 5: can to now g reach the skids so that next

1954
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 5: year the committee is afraid to put in in Indiana

1955
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 5: or an SMU.

1956
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll just say this really quick because we

1957
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 2: got to come back and do some other stuff. But

1958
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 2: you know, that's the disappointing part is the people that claim, oh,

1959
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 2: I love college football so much, and you know it's

1960
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: you know, I care about this sport more than anybody

1961
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: are also the people that want to tear down anybody

1962
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 2: that's not in the SEC. And you know, and like

1963
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 2: I think we could, like I do think the SEC

1964
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 2: is the best conference, but I will say I don't

1965
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 2: think it's by a country mile. Like you know, listen,

1966
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 2: the third best team in the SEC went to the

1967
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 2: third best team in the Big Ten and got destroyed tonight. Now,

1968
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 2: maybe the third best team of the Big Ten would

1969
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 2: have gotten destroyed if the game was in Tennessee. I

1970
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 2: don't know. But we have to go based on the facts.

1971
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 2: And so that's the other thing. And this might be

1972
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 2: a whole other conversation for another day. I also, I

1973
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: think the SEC is really good. I don't think they're

1974
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,799
Speaker 2: miles ahead of everybody else in college football. I just don't.

1975
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 2: They didn't have a team play for the national championship

1976
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 2: last year. All of their teams are inherently flawed. So

1977
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 2: I could go on and on, but I don't know

1978
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 2: if you have anything to add before break J Martin,

1979
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 2: Maybe after the break, But it's just, you know, it

1980
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 2: is what it is, Like I just wish we could

1981
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 2: all celebrate it. No playoff system, period is perfect. And

1982
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 2: I've said this before. I do wonder if because we're

1983
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 2: doing the playoff in real time in front of our eyes,

1984
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 2: that maybe that, like because we're creating the playoff system

1985
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 2: in real time, I wonder if that's part of it,

1986
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,839
Speaker 2: Like if we did the NFL playoffs where every division

1987
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 2: winner gets a first round by now, like, I wonder

1988
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: if people would say that's insane and I just bring

1989
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 2: it up because I do wonder if if that's part

1990
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 2: of it anyway, I'm rambling, but yes, stop complaining SEC fans.

1991
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 2: You got three teams in one to one today. One

1992
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 2: didn't you play really good football? I just don't think

1993
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 2: it's that much better than everybody else, specifically the big ten.

1994
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eritwards Jason mart We gotta come back.

1995
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 2: We got to talk about Michael Pennix. Oh baby, Jymartin,

1996
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 2: I know you got takes on that. Speaking of crazy

1997
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: football stories, we'll discuss Michael Penix next.

1998
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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio.

1999
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio hair towards Jason Martin

2000
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:55,760
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2001
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Speaker 2: shortly after the show. Our podcast will be going up.

2002
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2003
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2004
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2005
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2006
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2007
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 2: show posted after we get off air. It is middle

2008
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 2: of the hour. Do want to go ahead for the

2009
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 2: final time this evening. Get it over to the news

2010
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 2: desk before what is trending with Steve Seger.

2011
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:23,839
Speaker 8: Mister torres I did notice that in two seasons Indiana

2012
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 8: College football will be playing a game at Connecticut.

2013
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 3: Oh wow, on the road.

2014
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 8: No doubt what the exact same pre sure they just

2015
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 8: experienced it.

2016
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 9: Notre Dame and Nicole.

2017
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 3: Will put out that sick just like Will Howard did

2018
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago.

2019
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 8: So Indiana was down twenty seven to three late in

2020
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 8: the game last night. So it'll be Notre Dame against

2021
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 8: number two Georgia and the Sugar Bowl quarter final. Number

2022
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 8: one ranked Oregon has a rematch with Ohio State in

2023
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 8: the Rose Bowl quarter Final. New Year's Ohio State four

2024
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 8: touchdown runs tonight beat up Tennessee forty two to seventeen.

2025
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 8: The balls on the road this year went two and three.

2026
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 8: Texas led Clemson in thirty one ten in the third quarter,

2027
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:03,879
Speaker 8: beat the Tigers thirty eight to fourteen.

2028
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 5: KD.

2029
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 8: Klebnik three touchdown passes, one interception, three hundred thirty six

2030
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 8: yards a native of Austin, Texas, but the Longhrens had

2031
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,600
Speaker 8: nearly five hundred yards of offense. Penn State was up

2032
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 8: twenty eight to nothing at the half, beat SMU thirty

2033
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 8: eight to ten. Penn State will face Boise State next

2034
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 8: and that's on New Year's Eve in the Fiesta Bowl.

2035
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 8: The Longhorns game is New Year's Day Peach Bowl against

2036
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 8: Arizona State.

2037
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 3: Two NFL games.

2038
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 8: Today, Kansas City fourteen in one defeated Houston twenty seven

2039
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 8: to nineteen. Chiefs now closer to clinching the one seed

2040
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 8: in the AFC. Defensive lineman Chris Jones, though left with

2041
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:39,799
Speaker 8: a strained cap. Xavier Worthy did have seven catches sixty

2042
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 8: five yards and a touchdown, but Texans wide receiver Tanked

2043
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 8: dell Is hospitalized with a serious knee injury. Baltimore clinched

2044
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 8: a playoff spot beating Pittsburgh thirty four to seventeen. Derek

2045
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 8: Henry one hundred and sixty two yards rushing. This game

2046
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 8: was tied late third quarter. Russell Wilson and defeat two touchdowns,

2047
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 8: two turnovers. He had a fumble in the red zone

2048
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 8: and a pick six. Lamar Jackson three touchdown passes. Zay

2049
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 8: Flowers in fact five catches one hundred yards. Running back

2050
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 8: for the Saints, Alvin Kamara is out with a groin

2051
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 8: injury for Monday night, when New Orleans is at Green

2052
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 8: Bay at Saints. Wide receiver Chris Olave also out with

2053
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 8: a head injury. Baseball Hall of Famer Ricky Henderson died

2054
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 8: at the age of sixty five. The Yankees acquired first baseman.

2055
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 9: Paul Goldschmid on a one year deal.

2056
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 8: The Diamondbacks picked up All star first baseman Josh Naylor

2057
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 8: from Cleveland, so The Guardian signed first baseman Carlos Santana.

2058
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 8: In the NBA at San Antonio, Victor Wimbenyama thirty points

2059
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 8: and ten block shots as they beat Portland by twenty.

2060
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 8: Late night wins for Dallas and Detroit. New York got

2061
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 8: thirty nine points from Jalen Brunson in a win at

2062
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 8: New Orleans. Boston got a triple double from Jason Tatum,

2063
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 8: including forty three.

2064
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 9: Points in an easy win at Chicago.

2065
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 8: Cleveland won again, Milwaukee and Golden State with victories. Lakers

2066
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 8: won a close one at Sacramento one oh three ninety nine.

2067
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 8: Lebron James thirty two points and Orlando was down twenty

2068
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 8: two to start the fourth quarter. Still beat Miami one

2069
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 8: twenty one. One fourteen college hoops doubleheader at Madison Square Garden,

2070
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 8: North Carolina came back to beat Ucla. Then Ohio State

2071
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 8: upset number four Kentucky by twenty. Women's college hoops on

2072
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 8: Fox TV tonight, Top ten matchup USC one at Connecticut

2073
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,839
Speaker 8: seventy two seventy NHL Vegas six to two over Seattle.

2074
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 8: Back to you, thank you very much, to Saga, to Siega,

2075
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 8: have a great evening. We'll hear you tomorrow Sunday with

2076
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,799
Speaker 8: fellows Chris Plank, Arney Spaniard, among others. Fox Sports Radio

2077
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 8: it is aeron Torres, Jason Martin for twenty nine more minutes,

2078
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 8: taking you up till two am Eastern j mart before

2079
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 8: we get to uh looking ahead to some Sunday games.

2080
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 8: Where were you h when the Kirk Cousins you were

2081
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 8: a came to an abrupt end? What was it Wednesday night?

2082
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 8: Tuesday night against you know whatever? Kirk Cousins benched Michael

2083
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 8: Pennix in Torres has lots of takesh but curious for

2084
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 8: your perspective.

2085
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 5: Well, man, I think it's it's sort of inevitable and

2086
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 5: it's kind of been build for a handful of weeks.

2087
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins just hasn't been good enough. He hasn't been

2088
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 5: very good at all, as a matter of fact. And

2089
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 5: now you can actually look at Atlanta and understand what

2090
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 5: they were thinking during the draft when they made the

2091
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 5: move they made, because when you brought in Kirk Cousins,

2092
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 5: you knew you weren't bringing in a long term fix.

2093
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 5: You were probably bringing in somebody that could steady the

2094
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 5: ship and help you ease your quarterback of the future

2095
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 5: into his role. Now did you jump up and take

2096
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,839
Speaker 5: a guy that some people thought would have fallen further? Well, yeah, maybe,

2097
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 5: but you know that's never guaranteed. The only spot that

2098
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 5: you were guaranteed in is the one that you had there,

2099
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 5: and you went ahead and pulled the trigger. So now

2100
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 5: you're going to bring Panis in. Only thing I don't

2101
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 5: like about it is they're running throwback uniforms, like on

2102
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 5: his first week, let's wear the ones he's going to

2103
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 5: be wearing on a regular basis. I know that sounds ridiculous,

2104
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:50,680
Speaker 5: but the first time I saw it, I was just like,

2105
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 5: don't put him in weird uniforms, like put him in

2106
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 5: the But I guess they already had it scheduled either way.

2107
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 5: I mean, what team now is going to be in

2108
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 5: kirk Cousins. I mean, I'm sure someone will, we'll take

2109
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 5: him in, but it just seems like we're pretty much

2110
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 5: near the end to that. On the other side, for Atlanta,

2111
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 5: they want to go ahead and jump start the future.

2112
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 5: They want to see what they've got in Pennis, try

2113
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 5: to develop some chemistry with those receivers, and just get

2114
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 5: that staff working with them a little bit more. I

2115
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 5: like it. It makes Atlanta interesting because Atlanta had become one

2116
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 5: of the most boring teams in the league to me

2117
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 5: over the last month or so, and this immediately makes

2118
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 5: me want to see them and to see because Pennix

2119
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 5: was great in college, and you know, I want to

2120
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 5: see what of his skill set, what that looks like

2121
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 5: in an NFL uniform. And I already know what kirk

2122
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 5: Cousins was. He's pretty good for most of his career,

2123
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 5: and at times he was even better than pretty good.

2124
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 5: But there was no real indication that we were going

2125
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 5: to see this return to form from him. And so

2126
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 5: this is a move that I'm not surprised to see.

2127
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 5: And now you're seeing they're going to cut him before

2128
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 5: they have to pay the ten million on him, and

2129
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 5: then there'll be a second third tier team that will

2130
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 5: take him on. Probably is a starter because he's better

2131
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 5: than some of the guys that are starting in the

2132
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 5: league right now, and then you know, he'll just kind

2133
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 5: of fizzle out from there.

2134
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Speaker 3: My only real thought is to be transparent.

2135
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,919
Speaker 2: You know, I thought this was clunky from the beginning,

2136
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 2: and I remember talking about this right after the draft

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Speaker 2: with you J mart Is, like.

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Speaker 3: I thought the I thought, first of all, I thought

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins was just come.

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Speaker 2: I go back to draft night when he puts out

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Speaker 2: the statement through his agent, Hey, we need to be

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Speaker 2: trying to win games right now, and I was like, guy,

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Speaker 2: you just got here five minutes ago, like this isn't

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Speaker 2: you know whoever, even Aaron Rodgers. We criticized Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: or whatever. Aaron Rodgers helped the Packers win a lot

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Speaker 2: of games, and you at the time you understood, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I understand why he's mad. They haven't drafted an offensive

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Speaker 2: skill position player in the first round. His entire time

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Speaker 2: a quarterback, but they're drafting his replacement with Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you just got there. You have no equity

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Speaker 2: with the fan base. You haven't won him a single game,

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Speaker 2: and you're sitting there like, oh, you know, why are

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Speaker 2: we doing And it's like, by the way, part of

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Speaker 2: the reason you chose to go to the Atlanta Falcons

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01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 2: is because they had all that young talent Bjon Robinson,

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Speaker 2: the wide receivers, on and on down the list, And

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Speaker 2: so I thought it was clunky. I thought it was weird.

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Speaker 2: I also thought, and there's something I ended up being

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Speaker 2: right on. I'm not trying to just take a victory

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Speaker 2: lap this entire segment, but I'm bringing it up because

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Speaker 2: I did think that, like, it wasn't crazy to me, Like, yes,

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Speaker 2: you invested a lot of money, including a lot of

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Speaker 2: guaranteed money in Kirk Cousins, I get it. But it

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Speaker 2: also like, wasn't absurd to me that you would take

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Speaker 2: a quarterback to back up a guy that is thirty

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Speaker 2: five years old coming off of Achille surgery. Like, I

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01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 2: found it weird that everybody last offseason was kind of

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Speaker 2: like the well, you know, what are we gonna get

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Speaker 2: from Aaron Rodgers and he's forty this years old and

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Speaker 2: he's coming off Achille surgery and blah blah. But was

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Speaker 2: no one saying that about Kirk Cousins as well, and

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Speaker 2: so I I this is all just a long way

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Speaker 2: of me saying is that I didn't find it nearly

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Speaker 2: as weird as everybody else for the Falcons to draft

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. I thought there was a po by the way,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't even I was rooting against Kirk Cousins, like

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Speaker 2: I thought there was a possibility. What if he's just

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Speaker 2: not healthy enough to go to start the season. And

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Speaker 2: so it's been weird, you know, Kirk Cousins, like you said,

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Speaker 2: they'll he'll find a spot because there's only you know,

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Speaker 2: there's thirty two teams and there's only so many functional quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And the one thing you can say about him is

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Speaker 2: at least he basically stays out of the headlines when

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Speaker 2: he's playing onlike some other older quarterbacks that are coming

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Speaker 2: off Achilles injuries.

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Speaker 3: But I also found the whole thing weird his behavior.

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Speaker 2: And i'd also say, like, I just didn't find it

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Speaker 2: that crazy that they would take a quarterback in that spot. Now,

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Speaker 2: by the way, last thing, because I know I'm going on,

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Speaker 2: I would argue that you could say, taking the twenty

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Speaker 2: four year old quarterback who did six years of college.

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Speaker 2: That was a little weird if you if you expect

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Speaker 2: him to be on the sidelines for two or three years,

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Speaker 2: like maybe you know Drake May wasn't available, but maybe

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Speaker 2: you take a younger quarterback that you can develop.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: But the point I'm trying to make is I never

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Speaker 2: found it that weird that they would take a quarterback

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Speaker 2: with that pick, given that Kirk Cousins was coming off

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Speaker 2: achilles surgery, new to the organization, thirty five years old,

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Speaker 2: all of those things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think all that's right. I don't

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Speaker 5: have that much to add iman. They were seven and

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Speaker 5: seventeen right now, Pennix. This first starts going to be

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Speaker 5: at home against the Giants, who are I don't know

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Speaker 5: if a Dable's gonna survive. They've already exiled their quarterback.

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Speaker 5: He's gone. There's nothing really for them to play for

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Speaker 5: at two and twelve right now. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 5: a Giants fan wants to see them win, because they might.

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Speaker 5: Even though it's not a great quarterback draft, you definitely

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Speaker 5: want an early pick in it, I would think. So

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Speaker 5: it's a nice landing spot for him to start his career.

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Speaker 5: Like this is late in the year if I can

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Speaker 5: still have an opportunity in that division, because that division

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Speaker 5: is that division, And I think that says a lot,

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Speaker 5: like the fact that they're not out of it, the

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Speaker 5: fact that I mean they enter now as a nine

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Speaker 5: point favorite I think to win that game, which is

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Speaker 5: a huge number considering it's Penix that's going to play quarterback.

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Speaker 5: That tells you what everybody thinks of the Giants at

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Speaker 5: this point in time. But I mean, Kirk Cousins has

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Speaker 5: thrown for thirty five hundred yards this year. He's also

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Speaker 5: thrown sixteen interceptions, and you just can't win like that.

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Speaker 5: I think, even if you throw for five hundred less

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Speaker 5: yards but you have ten interceptions, we're not having this conversation.

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Speaker 5: But cousins inability to protect the football is actively harming

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Speaker 5: his team's opportunity to go anywhere or to even have

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to play in January. So I think this

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Speaker 5: is a move that you make right now. If you

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Speaker 5: make this for the future, you want to go ahead

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Speaker 5: and get a jump start on it. You want Penix

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Speaker 5: to get comfortable, and you want to see, you know,

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Speaker 5: what he has and see if he can actually get

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Speaker 5: you into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what jmart Atlanta host in New

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Speaker 2: York is one of several intriguing games. That one's intriguing

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Speaker 2: solely because of Michael Penix. But we'll come back. So

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Speaker 2: we'll come back. We'll wrap the show and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about some of those games. By the way, interesting thought

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Speaker 2: on the final eight teams of the college football Playoff

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: We'll do all that, wrap the show. That's all next.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios, jmart Before we get to uh,

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Speaker 2: before we get to some week Week fifteen of the

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Speaker 2: NFL quick thing, Week sixteen, Week seventeen, Week eighteen, whatever cares,

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Speaker 2: we know what. It's go time College football Playoff. Let

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Speaker 2: me ask you a question. Ohio State. It's not a question,

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Speaker 2: it's a statement. Ohio State has opened as a one

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Speaker 2: point favorite against Oregon and the Rose Bowl according to Fandel.

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Speaker 2: What is your take on that. That's a true thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making that up. It's not like a hypothetical.

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Speaker 2: What would happen if that has happened?

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Speaker 5: Well, it was the one point loss. That's fair if

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Speaker 5: you look at pure talent, Ohio State has more talent

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Speaker 5: they do. They paid for it. We know all about it.

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01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 5: Like they're they're rosser based on that they should beat everybody.

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Speaker 5: And I think that when you see the way they played,

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Speaker 5: they finally lived up to what they were supposed to

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Speaker 5: look like against a quality opponent with what they did

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Speaker 5: in this first round game. And I think you can

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Speaker 5: look at Oregon. You can see the last game they played,

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Speaker 5: they gave up a lot of yards to Penn State.

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Speaker 5: You know, they had to escape. Boise had that close.

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Speaker 5: That other close one was that the Michigan game. I

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Speaker 5: can't remember. There was some there was some team that

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Speaker 5: they sort of struggled with and ended up playing on

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Speaker 5: Lake Whichisconsin. That's it. I think you can make those arguments.

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Speaker 5: I can kind of see it from a town. I

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Speaker 5: think that they're looking at from a talent perspective and

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Speaker 5: they're also trying to get action. Of course, it is

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Speaker 5: interesting that the undefeated number one team that already beat

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Speaker 5: this team once this year is a one and a

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Speaker 5: half point dog right now. But I kind of look

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Speaker 5: at it and say I'm alright with it, because again,

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Speaker 5: if Ohio State shows up the way they showed in

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Speaker 5: this game. I don't think Oregon can beat them either.

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody can beat them, Like I think

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Speaker 5: they're the best team in the country, the way that

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Speaker 5: you would have thought before you watched them play at

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Speaker 5: all this year. I just don't know that that's the same

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01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 5: team we're going to see again. For Ryan Day's sake,

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Speaker 5: I hope that it is, because he had them ready

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Speaker 5: to play, and if they show up like that, I

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Speaker 5: don't think that Oregon is going to be beating them either.

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Speaker 5: So I do think it's fascinating if you expect the

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01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 5: top seed to get that love. But in this case,

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Speaker 5: going into the year, Ohio State had the higher ceiling

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Speaker 5: and they're kind of looking at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all I'll say is one, I guess I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 2: I think the only reason that I am surprised is

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Speaker 2: because I feel like we're all falling into the same

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Speaker 2: trap of with Ohio State is nobody's ever questioned their talent.

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Speaker 2: It's their ability to consistently show up ready to play.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't just a Michigan game. I mean, they

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01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 2: easily could have lost to Nebraska. There's a couple others

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Speaker 2: along the way, we don't have to go through it.

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Speaker 2: But I guess from my perspective, I'm just saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: we've known Ohio State always had as good or better

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Speaker 2: than everybody else in terms of talent, and they just

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Speaker 2: didn't always take advantage of it. So I guess I

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Speaker 2: am a little bit surprised, But to your point, maybe

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't be, just again because of the fact that

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just one of those deals where like

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Speaker 2: we know what they're capable of, they just got to

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Speaker 2: go ahead and do it. So yeah, Rose Bowl is

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Speaker 2: obviously January first.

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Speaker 3: We got all next week to preview that.

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what's speaking of preview curious if

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01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 2: you could give us a little NFL music.

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Speaker 3: Put us in the mood.

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Speaker 2: There we go, Oh yeah, that sounds good. All right,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, Ian surprise us. I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: game you're gonna tell us about.

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Speaker 3: What game are we previewing right now? You tell us?

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Speaker 11: All right, I'll surprise you guys. Let's start with the

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Speaker 11: Philadelphia Eagles. They're traveling to Washington to face the Commanders,

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Speaker 11: and the Eagles are favored by four.

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Speaker 3: What do we think? What do you got Jamark.

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Speaker 5: I like Philadelphia, not that I don't believe at all

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Speaker 5: in Washington, but I do think that we've seen some

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Speaker 5: spots where Jayden and Daniels is still going to have

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01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 5: to develop a bit. He gets a little bit of

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Speaker 5: happy feet in the pocket. He's still really only got

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Speaker 5: one target that you truly trust, and Terry McLaurin, they

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01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 5: haven't run the ball quite as effectively. I still like

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Speaker 5: that team. I like that coaching staff, I like sort

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Speaker 5: of the attitude of that team. But Philadelphia looks like

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01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 5: a buzzsaw. I was really impressed with what they looked

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Speaker 5: like a week ago, in particular, especially coming off the

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Speaker 5: drama leading into that game. I tend to think that

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Speaker 5: we'll travel just fine. You know, Saquon didn't have a

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01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 5: big game, they still win it. AJ says he's gonna

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01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 5: go I just kind of feel like they're gonna go

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Speaker 5: in there and handle business.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I just it's one of those

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Speaker 2: Phillies a buzz saw right now. As you just said,

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01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 2: you know, Washington, it feels like they kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of they kind of hit a wall a few

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01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 2: weeks ago. They've been playing a little bit you know

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Speaker 2: better the last few weeks. But Philly's a different beast.

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Speaker 2: They ain't playing New Orleans anymore. They ain't playing the

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. I like Philadelphia to win this game, all right.

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Speaker 11: Next up the Minnesota Vikings versus the Seattle Seahawks, two

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01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 11: division leaders. Minnesota's favored by three points, though Seattle's the

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Speaker 11: home team. What do we think?

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01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 3: What do you got?

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01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 5: Jamart? Is Gino gonna play?

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01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 3: I think he is supposed to be playing.

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01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 5: He says he's gonna play. If he's not one hundred percent,

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01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 5: they're in trouble because he they had nothing when he

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01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 5: was out of the game. I'm just not really a

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01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 5: believer in Seattle right now. I think that Kevin O'Connell

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01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 5: continues to show why you should be the coach of

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01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 5: the year. I really like their makeup. They're getting everything

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01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 5: out of dam darnold that you could possibly want, even

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01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 5: if they're not gonna pay them and they're gonna hand

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01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 5: the ball to JJ McCarthy next year. I don't see

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01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 5: any reason for them to lose this game. I understand

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01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,879
Speaker 5: it's in Seattle, so that's usually more of a challenge,

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01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 5: But give me Minnesota. I just think they're too strong

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01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 5: right now.

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01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think Minnesota has so much to play for,

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01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 2: you know, and I mean that was the gift. What

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01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 2: ended up happening with the Detroit Lions game last week

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01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 2: is it was not only an awesome, you know, win

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01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 2: for Buffalo, but it changes everything. I mean, Detroit obviously

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01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,320
Speaker 2: no longer has complete possession of not only first place,

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01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:43,840
Speaker 2: but the division. They're now tied with Minnesota, a top

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01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 2: that division with two games with three games to go.

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01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Minnesota's actually got two pretty tough games after this,

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01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 2: with green Bay at home at Detroit. I just think

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01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 2: Minnesota has too much to play for. I know it's

2375
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 2: a weird cross country trip after you know, an emotional

2376
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 2: win over the Bears the other day, but I just

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01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 2: don't see how they don't win this.

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01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 3: Game, all right.

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Speaker 11: Next up, the Cowboys are fighting for their playoff lives.

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01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 11: They're hosting the Buccaneers, who are favored by four and

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01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 11: a half points.

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01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 5: What do we think, gosh, I don't know. Now, the

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01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 5: Cowboys have nothing to play for. They're showing up against

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01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 5: them teams. That's frustrating. The Bucks are very inconsistent, but

2385
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 5: Mayfield's fun to watch. Mayfield will do something in this

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01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 5: game that'll be fun. He'll do so actually, he'll do

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01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 5: multiple things in this game that'll that'll be fun. Tampa

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01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 5: Bay needs to win because again, that division is terrible,

2389
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 5: but we got to see what Pennix does Tomorrow with

2390
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 5: the Falcons, we get to the privilege of watching the Saints,

2391
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 5: the most boring team on planet Earth on Monday Night football.

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01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 5: I'll take Baker in the bucks.

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01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Baker in the Bucks.

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01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 5: Two.

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01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 3: By the way, the Saints are the most boring team

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01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

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01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 5: By the way, we're so unwatchable. Yeah.

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01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 2: My pick to finish with the worst record in the NFE.

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01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 2: Not quite there, but they are so bad and one close? Yeah,

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01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 2: what do we got?

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01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 3: Ian? One more?

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01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,600
Speaker 11: Let's go with the Los Angeles Rams going to MetLife

2403
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 11: to face the Jets. The Rams are favored by three,

2404
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 11: but the Jets are coming off a win.

2405
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 3: What do we think.

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01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 5: I'm at your squad the four and ten Jets.

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01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 2: Aaron, Yeah, so be careful. Yeah, I mean you see

2408
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 2: that comeback against the Titans. Baby, No, it's it's sad.

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01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's sad. I mean Aaron Rodgers has more

2410
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 2: fight picking arguments with ESPN personalities than he does as

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01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 2: a quarterback these days. But uh yeah, I'll take the Rams.

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01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:34,960
Speaker 3: By the way.

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01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 2: Fun fact, I got invited to the Rams game next week.

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01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'll go. I don't take off

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01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 2: Sundays very often. Then I found out it was Saturday.

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01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:44,839
Speaker 2: I can't miss a Saturday with j mart So apparently

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01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 2: we're coming on right after that game, Jamart one quick answer.

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01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 3: I assume it's the Rams in this one for you?

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01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

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01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 3: All right, I'll tell you what we gotta get out

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01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 3: of here.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank the crew, Carrous on the board, producer Ian

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01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 2: Steve de Sager from my partner Jason Martin, I mere Torres.

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01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 2: Make sure to download the podcast, which will be available

2425
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 2: in just moments after we get off air. Coming up

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01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 2: next Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show. Cannot even

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01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 2: tell you how much Bernie's got for you the next

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01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 2: four hours.

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