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Speaker 2: a couple more NBA playoff games right now, Richie, how

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Speaker 2: are you on this beautiful Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. You know this is an exciting

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Speaker 1: time of the year. We've got some baseball just starting

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Speaker 1: to not matter. Yes, yeah, Look, the baseball season's too

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Speaker 1: long to really care about any individual gamer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you mentioned baseball. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi are Fox Sports Radio. MLB Insider is

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Speaker 2: gonna be joining us coming up in our next segment,

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna get to baseball early on. But let's

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Speaker 2: face it, Richard, right there in the midst of it,

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Speaker 2: the most talked about rivalry currently in major League Baseball,

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers and the Padres split a couple of games.

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Speaker 2: They have the rubber Game today coming up. But all

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Speaker 2: that controversy about that meme of a crying Clayton Kershaw,

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Speaker 2: it's gotta be some buzz down there in San Diego, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's the first of all, Peco Park

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Speaker 1: two reasons. One because obviously there's a lot more interest

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Speaker 1: in Padres baseball in San Diego than there's ever been.

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Speaker 1: And two, early in the season there will be Padres

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Speaker 1: season ticket holders who will sell their tickets to Dodgers

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Speaker 1: fans and they will show up and drove. So there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of both happening right now.

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Speaker 2: So what is the ratio of Padre's Dodgers fans Because

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Speaker 2: in the past, for years Rich you and I, when

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Speaker 2: the pod he sucked, it was like ninety percent Dodgers

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Speaker 2: fans who would make a you know, a nice rundown

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Speaker 2: of San Diego taking all the fun of San Diego.

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Speaker 2: What's the ratio now in terms of the fans of

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Speaker 2: these games and Peco.

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Speaker 1: Reports I've heard is the Lower Bowl there was a

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Speaker 1: good amount of blue, but it is probably seventy thirty

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Speaker 1: Padres to Dodgers fans, which it feels like, it feels

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Speaker 1: like there should be more Padres fans. But again, it's

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Speaker 1: a long season and for the first time in a

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Speaker 1: long time, they've been able to raise season ticket holder

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Speaker 1: prices and single game ticket prices because there's a great

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Speaker 1: product on the field. The Padres has been an intense

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Speaker 1: amount of money on this roster and so with that,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get a little bit of the opposing

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Speaker 1: fans making a foothold in your place. But I remember

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Speaker 1: during the NLDS between the Dodgers and Padres, it was

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Speaker 1: it was rightfully so it was a complete Padres takeover

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Speaker 1: in their own ballpark, which sounds ridiculous. I know how

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Speaker 1: that sounds. But it used to be when the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: came to town, Padres fans couldn't get tickets, right this

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Speaker 1: this has all changed, so yeah, like, look, I want

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Speaker 1: to get excited for this one series. It is a

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Speaker 1: great rivalry in baseball. Now you have teams who absolutely

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Speaker 1: do not like each other, you have ownership who's competing

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Speaker 1: the arms race of signing high paid talent competing against

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Speaker 1: each other in then Al West. But in the grand

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Speaker 1: scheme of one hundred and sixty two games, even if

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Speaker 1: you get swept either way Dodgers get swept, Padres get swept.

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Speaker 1: Is it going to have a staggering effect on your

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Speaker 1: overall record?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Well, and as we found out last year, it has

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Speaker 2: no bearing on the only thing that matters, and that's

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Speaker 2: how far you get in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers finished twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Games ahead of the Podres, and the Pottery's beat him

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Speaker 2: convincingly by the way in that division series. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: Padres have not. And so you know, it's funny the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers treat the Padres similar to the Lakers treat the Clippers. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you know where Okay, Yeah, the Clippers have beaten the

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Speaker 2: many banners do you have, Oh, that's why you have none.

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Speaker 2: We have seventeen. You know, same thing with the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: one playoff series doesn't designate, you know. And I get

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Speaker 2: it because I told you this before, which when I

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Speaker 2: I never thought anything of San Diego sports. I mean,

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Speaker 3: But when I got to San Diego.

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Speaker 2: Like, wow, these people like really hate LA. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's not reciprocated. No one in LA hates San Diego.

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Speaker 2: Everyone loves San Diego. Great place to have a weekend getaway,

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Speaker 2: go to the zoo, do whatever. Right, But when I

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Speaker 2: got down there, I realized, Wow, they really want to

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Speaker 2: make this a rivalry. So I saw, you know, my

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Speaker 2: the Union Tribune, really ripped the Podrays like this was

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Speaker 2: Bush League with that whole meme of a crying Clayton Kershaw.

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Speaker 3: Why you poking the bear? I get it. I think

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Speaker 3: they want to have a rivalry.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they have really hard for they're trying to

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Speaker 2: generate it while and you know, because we've talked to

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Speaker 2: our buddy, David Vasse does Dodger talk, Ellie still dismisses,

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Speaker 2: even beyond what happened in the playoffs last year, our

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Speaker 2: rivals the Giants, Yeah, our rivals, not the Podras. Have

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Speaker 2: as much as the bodies want a rivalry with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers are still doing their best, whether they can

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Speaker 1: I believe, and I mean I've been on teams where

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes those rivalries are long and deep seated

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Speaker 1: a pretty good season last year. If they can fix

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw Brett fav we saw Iron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: green Bay will become the marquee competition, like out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: When Peyton Manning was with the Indianapolis Colts, I was

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Speaker 2: Right well, look at right now between the Bengals and

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Speaker 2: lot of animosity college football late eighties, early nineties, Miami

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Speaker 1: The Catholics versus the Convent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it became a rivalry.

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Speaker 2: And like you say, even if one of the schools

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Speaker 2: And people around the country now want to see the

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Speaker 2: Podres and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: he showed it off with those two bombs against Clayton

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Speaker 2: Kershaw the other day. Can ever regain his stature not

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Speaker 2: just as a great baseball player out of San Diego,

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Speaker 2: Rich coming up later on today, we got Celtics sixers,

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Speaker 2: followed by the Nuggets and Suns.

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Speaker 3: Here's something interesting. The four teams that are currently leading

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Speaker 3: their series two games to one. Lakers and the Heat

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Speaker 3: took two one series leads yesterday, and then we had

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Speaker 3: the Celtics and the Nuggets. These were the final four

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Speaker 3: teams in the Bubble a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: These were the four teams that got to the final

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Speaker 2: four in the Bubble. Eventually, of course, the Lakers beat

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Speaker 2: the Heat in the NBA five and now these four

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Speaker 2: teams have two won series leads, and wow, that was

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Speaker 2: quite a game for the Lakers yesterday. I yesterday, book

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and I were talking about and we were

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Speaker 2: think it's something like seventy five percent of teams winning

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Speaker 2: a Game three in a series that's tied one one

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Speaker 2: go on to actually win the series. The Lakers didn't

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Speaker 2: just win, man, they just annihilated the Warriors last night.

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Speaker 1: I just wish that Anthony Davis looked. And again, I'm

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't It just doesn't seem like he's there.

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Speaker 2: Here all right, Well, we'll get back to the NBA

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Speaker 2: As he so graciously does every single Sunday here on

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Speaker 6: Sure, yes, that does happen every every now and then, gentleman.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Rich, I'm going to ask him my

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Speaker 6: Well, I think in both cases, it's further affirmation that

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Speaker 1: You know, we started the show this morning JP talking

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Speaker 6: I love it. I love it, and certainly I am

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Speaker 6: team like the Multimore Orioles.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I want to ask you about the passing

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Speaker 2: of a legend, Vita Blue. I'm the only one amongst

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Speaker 2: the three of us that can actually remember when Vita

439
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: Blue exploded on the scene. I remember all the numbers

440
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: at the All Star breaks, seventeen and three one two

441
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: era you talk about Fernando Mania, it was Vita Blue Mania,

442
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: ten years before Fernando Mania.

443
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Speaker 3: He went over two hundred games in his career.

444
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Speaker 2: When you look at his numbers, it's you know, it's

445
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Speaker 2: hard to compare today's numbers and numbers in those days

446
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Speaker 2: because they actually completed games. He had eight shots in

447
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Speaker 2: his Cy Young MVP season. But what kind of legacy

448
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Speaker 2: for someone like you, JP does Vita Blue leave.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think, Steve, he's a name that all of

450
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Speaker 6: us in baseball should remember, should celebrate. You talk about

451
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Speaker 6: that MVP and Cy Young season back in seventy one.

452
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna give you one number from that year that

453
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Speaker 6: will probably never be matched. That is twenty four complete.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly one t four complete games.

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Speaker 6: So Vita Blue I remember I watched and certainly as

456
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Speaker 6: I studied the game as a kid, I loved watching

457
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Speaker 6: those retrospectives that you would you would watch about about

458
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Speaker 6: the ages of the nineteen seventies, especially in the early seventies,

459
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Speaker 6: and to see just what a unique group of characters

460
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Speaker 6: they had and just their strong personalities and it's a

461
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 6: style with which they played. They were the team that

462
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Speaker 6: no one ever wanted to go up against. And I

463
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Speaker 6: remember hearing obviously about the Alcs between Detroit and Oakland

464
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Speaker 6: and that era and how competitive that was. But Vita

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Speaker 6: Blue back in No. Nineteen seventy one, my goodness, MVP

466
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Speaker 6: cy Young. He's someone that I really think to your point,

467
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Speaker 6: we have to remember and reflect on as we look

468
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Speaker 6: at the numbers of the current era and ask ourselves

469
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Speaker 6: who among the current players of the current pitchers are

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Speaker 6: going to be Hall of Famers. I happen to believe

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Speaker 6: that C. C. Sabathia Adam Wainwright deserve Hall of Fame

472
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Speaker 6: votes and deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: And I think if we look at that and say,

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Speaker 6: wait a minute, if they're in, what does that mean

475
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Speaker 6: for a second review of the career of Vita Blue?

476
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Speaker 6: And I really hope that as the Veterans Committee continues

477
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Speaker 6: to consider candidates in the past, that Vita Blue and

478
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Speaker 6: all that he meant to that as franchise on and

479
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 6: off the field, gets a second and thorough consideration by

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Speaker 6: the Veterans Committee.

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Speaker 2: I agree to under nine wins, three twenty seven career ERRA,

482
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Speaker 2: six time All Stars, started, three All Star Games. Pretty

483
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Speaker 2: good resume for the late great of Vida Blue. Speaking

484
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Speaker 2: of great, he is the best of the best, the

485
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Speaker 2: great John Paul Morosi JP has always appreciate your time,

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Speaker 2: will check in with you next week.

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Speaker 6: Sounds great. Gentlemen enjoyed this special time of year in

488
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Speaker 6: so many sports. And as always, guys, I really appreciate

489
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Speaker 6: the conversation on a Sunday's a great way for me

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Speaker 6: to start the week. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Perfect there he is the best of the best, John

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Speaker 2: Paul Morosi our Fox Sports Radio NFL inside of you.

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Speaker 2: Just the name, right, Rich Vita Blue. Yeah, I mean

494
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Speaker 2: it was just a great name. And I am telling

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Speaker 2: you as a junior high schooler back in the day

496
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Speaker 2: when this guy came on the scene, Wow, I mean

497
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: he was unba believable. All right, let's find out what

498
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: is trending right now? And h and obviously disappointed Moncey

499
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Speaker 2: Belanos is with us because Moncey still waiting for her

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Speaker 2: flamed egg plant.

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Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, yeah, I'm I'm not ducking you,

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Speaker 3: I right.

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Speaker 1: I just uh, traffic being what it is these days,

504
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: I just wanted to broadcast remotely. That's all. Nowhere you

505
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Speaker 1: want to tell all these nights.

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Speaker 3: You meat, You're lucky that I do believe in the traffic.

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Speaker 4: I know what.

508
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Speaker 3: That's way I think to be fair.

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00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: And again, when you've seen the video, obviously mine seeing

510
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: when Rich we had this little barbecue that was given

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Speaker 2: to by one of our listeners, and then he did

512
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Speaker 2: the full flame thing that we should have that with

513
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Speaker 2: your egg plant.

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Speaker 3: You're there as it's happening. I would love to. And

515
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: by the way, after he did that to that meat,

516
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: it was so delicious and we're eating it at six

517
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Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning. You know, I mean, who does

518
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: it exactly? But aside from me, though, who does it? Everybody?

519
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 3: I feel like it was a perfect seer.

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Speaker 1: The best thing to do is to just do it

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Speaker 1: and then wait for management to say, yeah, don't bring

522
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: a flamethrow to work. Although I will say this, still

523
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Speaker 1: haven't been told not to bring.

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Speaker 7: It, so you know, there's that no you you don't

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Speaker 7: apologize later, yeah exactly, say oh, we didn't know.

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Speaker 3: That flamethrow one thousand percent. It's not in the no, no, no,

527
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: my contract, not at all. Guys.

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Speaker 7: One baseball game going on right now. It's between the

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Speaker 7: Orioles and the Braves. They are playing in Atlanta. They're

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Speaker 7: about to start the seventh inning. They are still tied

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Speaker 7: at one a piece. That Matt Olsen did hit his

532
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Speaker 7: tenth homer of the season in the bottom of the

533
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Speaker 7: first inning. We got a soccer game that just ended

534
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Speaker 7: in the Premier League. Arsenal did beat Newcastle United two

535
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Speaker 7: zero was the final score. And some sad news out

536
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Speaker 7: of the NBA. Nick Gilbert, son of Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert,

537
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 7: who was like their good luck charm that was sent

538
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 7: to the NBA lottery draft year after year he would

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Speaker 7: wear his bow tie. He sadly passed away at the

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Speaker 7: age of twenty six. He had a lifelong battle with

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Speaker 7: neuro fro. Nope, nope, guys, I can't say it, nero fibromantosis.

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Speaker 3: That sounds right, sounds does that sound right? I'm going

543
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Speaker 3: to give it to you, thank you.

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Speaker 7: But a lifelong battle with that and it's like we

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Speaker 7: all saw him year after year with his glasses and

546
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Speaker 7: his boat tie. So unfortunately passed away at the age

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Speaker 7: of twenty six. And according to ESPN, UFC veteran Tony

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Speaker 7: Ferguson was arrested this morning Sunday following a multi vehicle

549
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Speaker 7: crash in Hollywood, California. At TMZ is reporting that he

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Speaker 7: was arrested on suspicion of drunk driving.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, all right, MONSI well check in

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Speaker 3: with you a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: getting back to the Lakers blowout went over the Warriors

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Speaker 2: last night. I saw Lebron interviewed after the game, and

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Speaker 2: he was asked after talking about the game itself, and

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Speaker 2: he assured everybody that the team they just blew up

561
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Speaker 2: by thirty is very capable.

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Speaker 3: Of running out three straight wins.

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Speaker 2: So he's certainly not, you know, taking anything for granted

564
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Speaker 2: when he play a champion team.

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Speaker 3: Like the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: But he was asked about his son, Bronni committing to

567
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Speaker 2: USC and he got emotional, and he got emotional from

568
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Speaker 2: this standpoint, obviously he's very proud of his son.

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Speaker 3: He goes.

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Speaker 2: You understand, he's the first person in my family ever

571
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Speaker 2: to go to college, because Lebron didn't go to college.

572
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Speaker 2: He came straight out of high school to the NBA.

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Speaker 2: And he really was emphatic and very emotional about it.

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Speaker 2: You understand, this is this is the first person in

575
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Speaker 2: my family history to ever go to college. Wow, and

576
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Speaker 2: and you know, and it was like a proud dad.

577
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Speaker 2: And the one thing we know about lebron James is

578
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Speaker 2: it's not going to be like a ball situation where

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Speaker 2: dad wants to hog the spy spotlight. We know that

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Speaker 2: even though he'll be playing at USC, his father is

581
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Speaker 2: going to be in the in the background. But but

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Speaker 2: the fact that he is Bronnie James, and it seems like,

583
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Speaker 2: honestly that he's been playing at Sierra Canyon High School

584
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: for like ten years, Like that's.

585
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Speaker 3: How long we've been hearing about Ronnie James. Up.

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Speaker 2: Finally he's going to the college ranks. But the spotlight

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00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: on him is going to be intense. Yes, And we're

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Speaker 2: not talking about a guy who was a man in

589
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Speaker 2: high school physically like his father was.

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Speaker 3: This is a six foot two, one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: pound card. He's not his father physically. How good of

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Speaker 3: a player is going to be? I guess we're going

593
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Speaker 3: to find out.

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Speaker 2: We've heard all kinds of reports about Ronnie James and

595
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Speaker 2: just you know, what are the realistic chances of him,

596
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Speaker 2: you know, joining his dad someday in the NBA.

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00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: But that being said, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Telling you what at USC, if he's not getting playing

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Speaker 2: time or there's a lot to be said about bringing

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Speaker 2: in such a high profile high school player, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if there's really any comparison with who his

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Speaker 2: father is and where he's chosen to go to college,

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be some pressure on that USC coaching staff

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Speaker 2: to hey, where's Bronny.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who knows.

606
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Speaker 2: Maybe he's gonna be a star from the get go,

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Speaker 2: but if he's not, I'm wondering how they're gonna handle that.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, here's the reality, because you know, having played

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Speaker 1: college sports at you know, the Division one level and

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Speaker 1: seeing what happens when there's a kid with a parent

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Speaker 1: who's a wealthy donor, or there's a kid on the

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Speaker 1: team who's a legacy because the father was an amazing

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Speaker 1: football player at Penn State, and then the uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the kid just just isn't quite up to stuff. What

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Speaker 1: happens is obviously they're given preferential treatment, and they're given

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Speaker 1: all of the things that a normal scholarship athlete would get,

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Speaker 1: you know, the swag and you know and and what

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Speaker 1: have you. You know, it's it's gonna he's going to

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Speaker 1: feel like he's an important part of the team. But

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Speaker 1: if you're not good enough to get court time, if

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Speaker 1: you're not good enough in football to get field time,

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Speaker 1: not only do the coaches know they can't play you,

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Speaker 1: but the player usually knows they can't play you. So

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Speaker 1: Bronnie James, this is going to be his first real

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Speaker 1: taste at what it what it what it is to

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Speaker 1: be in the meritocracy of sports. If he's getting court time,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be because he's as good or just

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Speaker 1: slightly worse than the next best guy. Because look, if

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Speaker 1: he's just slightly worse than the next best guy, he's

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Speaker 1: going to get the nod because of who his father is.

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Speaker 1: But if he can't play at the collegiate level, like

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Speaker 1: if he gets up there and it's just very clear

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Speaker 1: to everybody, including Bronnie James, that he's just not competitive

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Speaker 1: at the collegiate level, he's going to ride the pine.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, he's got to be good with that,

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Speaker 1: because he'll go out and embarrass himself if he's not.

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Speaker 1: And his dad's got to be good with that. And

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00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: the only answer to that then is to try to

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Speaker 1: get better and to try to earn more core time,

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Speaker 1: and so we'll see if that happens. But again, we

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Speaker 1: don't know until we know. We've never seen him walk

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Speaker 1: onto a court at USC and these Trojans coaches haven't

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Speaker 1: gotten a chance to coach him yet, and so who knows.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he could end up being one of those journeyman types,

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Speaker 1: or maybe he'll be better at college than he is

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Speaker 1: at the high school level. But they know what the

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Speaker 1: hype is coming into the program, and so they're making

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Speaker 1: they're gonna give him every opportunity to succeed. But if

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Speaker 1: he can't do it, he's not gonna see a lot

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Speaker 1: of core time. Now, that's the competitive part of it.

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Speaker 1: Going back to what you were talking about with Lebron

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Speaker 1: James being that open and emotional about the significance of

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Speaker 1: this event. You know, the fact that Brownie will be

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Speaker 1: the first ever in his family to go to college,

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Speaker 1: that is significant. And from all appearances, Lebron seems like

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Speaker 1: a supporting and doting father absolutely, and so I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's incredible for him to share that

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Speaker 1: moment with the rest of us, and and that's something

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Speaker 1: that he's got to be really proud of, because while

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Speaker 1: trying to navigate his own professional career. He's raised a

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Speaker 1: kid that I haven't heard anything negative about, you know,

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Speaker 1: from a personal life.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean you've never heard anything negative about Lebron

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Speaker 2: and his family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Lebron's a stand up guy.

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Speaker 2: And you may not agree with maybe his political stances

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people have been arguing should he

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Speaker 2: go that far? But in terms of his personal life, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a steady eddie. You know, he's been married a

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Speaker 2: long time, his high school sweetheart, and he's got you know,

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Speaker 2: a couple of boys. I mean, you know, every He's

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Speaker 2: done everything right in those terms. Again, he's not going

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Speaker 2: to be a problem at all. But for Andy Enfield

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Speaker 2: and that coaching staff at USC, they might feel a

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Speaker 2: little pressure, like, let's get going. So I'm rooting for

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Speaker 2: BRONI I hope that this kid is can get and

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Speaker 2: help his father fulfill his dream of somehow side by

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Speaker 2: side they can play in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, the MVP Award was announced this

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: week in Joel Embiid, as expected, won the award. Did

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Speaker 2: the voters get it right? This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Steve Harbin, Rich Hornberger. This is Fox Sports Sunday. We

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Speaker 2: are live from the tyrac dot com studios. Coming up

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Speaker 2: in how about an hour and twenty minutes tip off

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Speaker 2: between the Celtics and the Sixers, Game four that series.

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Speaker 2: Celtics winning Game three in Philadelphia to take a two

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Speaker 2: to one series lead, and before Game three, big presentation

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Speaker 2: to Joel Embiid voted the NBA's Most Valuable Player. He

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Speaker 2: got emotional, had his little guy there and his parents

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Speaker 2: are there. It's a really nice thing. And you know,

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Speaker 2: he's a great player, and he'd been a runner up

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Speaker 2: in the voting the last couple of years, so he

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Speaker 2: finally had his opportunity to claim the award and he

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00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: played well. The rest of the team didn't show up.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that a little bit later on, like

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Speaker 2: what happened to James Harden. But now I'm looking at

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00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: this MVP award and the NBA is different in its

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00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: history of its award than other sports because for the

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Speaker 2: first twenty five years that they had an NBA MVP,

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Speaker 2: it was voted on by the players, right, and then

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 3: It switched over to the media.

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Speaker 2: So you have enough of a sample size on the

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Speaker 2: way the players voted versus the way the media votes.

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Speaker 2: And a prime example of that was the year that

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Speaker 2: Will Chamberlain averaged fifty points a game for an entire season,

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00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 2: averaged over fifty points a game for an entire year,

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Speaker 2: and in the player's MVP voting it wasn't even close.

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Speaker 2: Bill Russell was a runaway winner of the MVP award.

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00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: Will was a distant second in the voting. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Will was a very interesting sample because in his early years,

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Speaker 2: when he was rewriting the record books and scoring all

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Speaker 2: these points, he did not farewell in the MVP voting right.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't until he moved to Philadelphia and sort

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Speaker 2: of adopted a Bill Russell style where he shot less

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00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: past more than he actually started winning MVP awards. But

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Speaker 2: I keep thinking, like, it seems like we have this

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Speaker 2: pattern here, Like if the players had voted Jordan won

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Speaker 2: five MVPs, he probably would have won eight. Like Lebron

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Speaker 2: James has won four, he probably would have won seven

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Speaker 2: or eight. They just stopped giving the award to guys,

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Speaker 2: saying now they've got enough, we need to spread it around.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm watching Jokic in this Denver series

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Speaker 2: and even in this loss to Phoenix the other night,

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Speaker 2: the guy had twenty eight points, seventeen rebounds, and seventeen

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Speaker 2: assist As great as Embiid is. If you look at

728
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: twelve major statistical categories, Jokic beats him in eight. And

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Speaker 2: I just wonder how different it would be for any

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Speaker 2: sport if the MVP voting were handed to the players

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Speaker 2: instead of the media.

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Speaker 1: Rich Well, to your point about embiding Jokic, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that, like if I were going to start a team,

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Speaker 1: or if anybody was going to start a team and

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Speaker 1: select their first round draft pick and they could only

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Speaker 1: choose between Yokic and Embid, that the Lion chair of

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Speaker 1: the majority of people would select Jokic. That's not what

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Speaker 1: we're doing here. You know, we're not talking about building

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Speaker 1: a program. We're just talking about in a vacuum in

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Speaker 1: this you know, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three season,

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Speaker 1: who's the best, who was the best? Who did it

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Speaker 1: better than anybody else? It seems odd to try to

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Speaker 1: make an argument for anybody other than Nicola Jokic. It

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Speaker 1: just i Embiid had a great year, and you know

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Speaker 1: what it is argumentative. You could probably make an argument

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Speaker 1: for Embiid, but you're you're straining your self not to

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Speaker 1: give it to Nicola Jokic. And that's the reason why Steve,

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Speaker 1: you know, you bring up this point. If it's done differently,

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Speaker 1: are the results different? Well, yeah, because it's subjective. I mean,

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Speaker 1: as as firm as I am about Jokic deserving it,

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Speaker 1: there's somebody who's firm saying Embiid deserves it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just I think that the players would have a

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Speaker 2: different view of it, and they proved at Kareem won

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Speaker 2: six MVP awards when the players are voting because he

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Speaker 2: was the most dominant player, like he was the most

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Speaker 2: valuable player. I just think the view of the players

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Speaker 2: in the media because of me, he can get caught

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Speaker 2: up in stats and everything else and maybe spread the wealth.

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Speaker 3: I think it's much different with the players all right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, much more NBA playoff news,

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Speaker 2: and we got some NFL to get to.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Sunday, rolling along on another busy Sunday in the sports.

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Speaker 2: We're not sitting in each other's lap this week as

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Speaker 2: we were last week in our new studios here. In fact, Rich,

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Speaker 2: run in our new studios last week. Let's get right

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Speaker 2: to this the NFL. This is the so called quiet

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Speaker 2: time in the NFL. Right the draft is over, and

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Speaker 2: really between now and the started training camp, especially once

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Speaker 2: we get into June and July, it's Dadsville. I mean,

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Speaker 2: right now you got mini camps and you know, ota

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, and they get a chance to look

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Speaker 2: at some of the guys that they drafted and start

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Speaker 2: signing some free agents and everything else.

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Speaker 3: And then we go into a little bit of a lull.

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Speaker 2: But there's never a downtime in the NFL because the

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Speaker 2: first thing I I when I clicked on you know

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Speaker 2: what's the latest NFL news is fantasy football. Now I

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Speaker 2: know that the majority of our listeners out there that

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Speaker 2: are NFL fans engage in some level of fantasy football.

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Speaker 2: It's just the thing to do. And so I was

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Speaker 2: looking here at the rankings of the recently drafted players.

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Speaker 2: So that's always a question, right, You get ready for

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Speaker 2: fantasy football and you're like, okay, which one of these

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Speaker 2: rookies is going to have that breakout season? And obviously

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Speaker 2: they look at Jean Robinson Jamiir Gibbs because they're running backs.

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Speaker 2: You figure running backs are going to get the first

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Speaker 2: look because their shelf life is short. So usually you

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Speaker 2: look at running backs out of the drafted guys that

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Speaker 2: again that immediate impact, right, But I wanted to look at.

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Speaker 3: The quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And the top three quarterbacks in this draft were Bryce Young,

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Speaker 2: C J. Stroud, and Anthony Richardson well based on a

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Speaker 2: couple of the rankings of fantasy football, and this is

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Speaker 2: you know, how many fantasy points will these quarterbacks deliver.

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Speaker 3: For you in twenty twenty three? The order is.

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Speaker 2: Stroud third, Bryce Young second, and Anthony Richardson first. And

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Speaker 2: I keep wondering, exactly what are the Colts plans for

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson? They release Nick Foles, that doesn't come as

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Speaker 2: any kind of surprise you have Ellinger there, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there isn't a whole lot to choose from,

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Speaker 2: and obviously Gardner Minshew was brought in as a I

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Speaker 2: don't know, like a sort of a start the season guy.

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Speaker 2: You and I have gone back and forth about this

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Speaker 2: drafting of Anthony Richardson, and you know what kind of

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Speaker 2: projection he has. But I think these odds are reflective

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Speaker 2: of the idea that we're gonna see a lot more

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Speaker 2: of Anthony Richardson in some form that maybe a lot

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Speaker 2: of people are anticipating because you know, with Bryce Young,

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Speaker 2: he's going to get an opportunity of media in Carolina.

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Speaker 3: CJ. Stroud saying thing in Houston.

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Speaker 2: But I dare say I wouldn't bet the bank against

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson to have maybe more of an impact on

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Speaker 2: the Colts offense than a lot of people are expecting

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Speaker 2: as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the reality of Anthony Richardson. It's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: that he's going to have more of an impact as

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Speaker 1: a rookie. It's it's the style of play. Like when

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Speaker 1: you look at Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud from a

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Speaker 1: fantasy football standpoint, they're not going to do the sort

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Speaker 1: of things that, for example, and Anthony Richardson will do

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Speaker 1: because he's going to get you a lot of yards

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Speaker 1: with his legs as well. At the NFL level, Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you know, CJ. Stroud more of a pocket passer. Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young obviously more of a pocket passer. You know, both

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Speaker 1: of them are mobile, both of them can get you

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Speaker 1: out of trouble, them can extend play, and they can improvise.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you wouldn't characterize them as a dual threat.

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Speaker 1: You know, think of Patrick Mahomes. He's absolutely a dual threat,

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Speaker 1: but he's more of a pocket passer. You know, So

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Speaker 1: even though he's arguably the best quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 1: right now, he'll probably be taken lower down the list.

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Speaker 1: In fact, that Justin Fields might go before Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: because of what he gives you from a fantasy points standpoint.

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Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I think Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 1: going to be taken over those other two guys taken

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Speaker 1: in the first round of this year's NFL draft at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Also, you could make the argument we'll

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Speaker 1: see him sooner, you know, CJ. Stroud, I mean you

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Speaker 1: have all the time in the world, and in Houston,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows that Houston Texans are going to struggle next year.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody thinks, based off their draft that

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Speaker 1: they're fixed all of a sudden. So I think CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud could wait on the shelf for a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you know, while he's incubating for his opportunity to start.

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Speaker 1: I think the same could be for Bryce Young in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I could see Anthony Richardson, you know, replaced Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 1: if that is going to be the starting quarterback in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: At first, I could see him replacing him, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot quicker than those other two guys. So maybe

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Speaker 1: that's maybe that's a part of the wisdom here why

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Speaker 1: people want to take him or are planning to take

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Speaker 1: him earlier in their drafts, because they assume he's going

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Speaker 1: to see the field faster as a rookie. You know.

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Speaker 2: The release of Nick Foles is the reminder of one

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Speaker 2: of the most unique careers in the NFL, and the

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00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: teams may still have an opportunity to pick up Nick

867
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: Foles as a backup quarterback. Essentially, his career has been

868
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: defined by two runs. His first full year as a

869
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: starter back in twenty thirteen, when he led the NFL

870
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: in passer rating, had an incredible twenty seven touchdowns and.

871
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: Two picks for the season.

872
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a Chip Kelly offense that, frankly, the NFL

873
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: had never seen before. And yesterday we were talking to

874
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan, who was very close with the Eagles organization,

875
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: and he said it was funny. He goes, in the

876
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: midst of that year, he was talking to some NFL

877
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: scout guy like, you know, wow, I mean, look at

878
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: this guy. This guy is unreal, and he goes, he's not.

879
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: He goes, we had him projected as a fifth round

880
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: pick and he goes, Yeah, but obviously he's a lot

881
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: better than that. He goes, he's not. It's the system.

882
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: And once the NFL figures out the system, this guy's

883
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 2: going to come crashing back down. And that's exactly what happened.

884
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: And then get Doug Peterson credit. You know, in that

885
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 2: midst of that twenty seventeen season, when Carson Wentz went down,

886
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: they brought in Nick Foles. He wasn't doing much of anything,

887
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: and then right before the playoffs, they went back to

888
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: the old playbook of Chip Kelly Hey, what made Nick

889
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: Foles good? And they weren't ready for it, The NFL

890
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: wasn't ready for it, and Nick Foles all of a

891
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: sudden again looked like this world beater capped off by

892
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl MVP performance. He got the big deal

893
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville and he came crashing back to Earth. And

894
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: it's just it's just absolutely amazing to me. How when

895
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: we talk about quarterbacks, no matter what kind of talent

896
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: they have, that sometimes they can exceed their talent or

897
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: fall short of their talent simply based on the right

898
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: system their talents.

899
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: Yep.

900
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: And I mean we go back to Bill Waalash and

901
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: Joe Montana. I mean we can go.

902
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: I mean it just it's such an important factor with

903
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: any of these quarterbacks, no matter how much talent that

904
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: they have. Look at what the Ravens do with Lamar.

905
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: Jackson, well, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reidsten. Patrick Mahomes is

906
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: an incredible quarterback. I want to take nothing away from him, right,

907
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: But if Patrick Mahomes was drafted by the Cleveland Browns,

908
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: would it have looked as good? The answer is absolutely not.

909
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: I mean it really, I look I it wouldn't look

910
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: as good. I'm not going to say that he couldn't

911
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: make it work anywhere else. I'm not going to say

912
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: that Andy Reid or Patrick Mahomes owes Andy Reid his

913
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: entire career and all the credit goes to Andy Reid.

914
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: That's certainly not what I'm saying. But would it look

915
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: as good. No, the same way, I don't think it

916
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: would have looked as good for Tom Brady early in

917
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: his career had he gone somewhere other than New England.

918
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: I just don't. I think sometimes a quarterback has the

919
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: right stuff, they have the right amount of buying, and

920
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: they're paired with a coach who understands them and builds

921
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: a system and believes in them. That's the most important

922
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: thing is having a coach believe in you, believe in

923
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: your talent, not care what anybody else thinks. Because there

924
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: were a lot of people who thought that the Patrick

925
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes draft pick by the Kansas City Chiefs, they thought

926
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: it's stunk.

927
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: They're like, what are you guys doing They had a

928
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: losing record in college.

929
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they couldn't believe it. And then he turns

930
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: he turns himself in with and by the way, quickly

931
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: into inarguably one of the best quarterbacks who's ever played

932
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: the game. Because if Patrick Mahomes retires now after whatever

933
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: it's been a five or six year run, he would

934
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: be a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's already done

935
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: enough in his career, like he is incredible. But a

936
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: certain amount of that credit belongs to Andy Reid. A

937
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: certain amount of the credit for Tom Brady belongs to

938
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and the offensive coordinators who worked with him

939
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: in New England, especially at first. Now, at a certain point,

940
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, during a twenty year stretch as a starting quarterback,

941
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: I think he learned enough. He engendered enough of the

942
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive frankly knowledge that he needed to attack

943
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: any defense in the NFL. And so he brought his

944
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: talents to Tampa Bay. And it didn't matter who he

945
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: was working with, Bruce arians Byron Leftwich, he was going

946
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: to win regardless. He had enough talent around him offensively,

947
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: and he basically took over that offense. And once Tom

948
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: Brady got cooking down there in Tampa worked, I mean,

949
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: but for a young quarterback, where you go is so

950
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: crucial who your head coaches, the talent you're surrounded by,

951
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: it's so crucial. It can't it can't be. It can't

952
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 1: be given enough credit. I don't think it is given

953
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: enough credit.

954
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: All right.

955
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: So on the other side, I want to get to

956
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: another quarterback who is now the highest paid player in

957
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: the NFL in terms of total sum money potentially in

958
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: his contract. That's Lamar Jackson, and he has visions of

959
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: grandeur as a passing quarterback. Are the Ravens about to

960
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 2: make a big mistake in the direction they're taking their

961
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: former MVP. We're gonna break it down. This is Fox

962
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Rich Ornberger. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

963
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: and we are live from the Tyraq dot Com studios

964
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 2: a little over an hour away tip off Game four

965
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: and the series between the Celtics and the Sixer, and

966
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 2: then later Phoenix Sun's trying to get even in their

967
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 2: series against the Denver Nuggets. NBA playoffs have been good,

968
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: been entertaining. We got a lot of storylines going on,

969
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: so we'll get to a lot of that. We're covering

970
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: a little NFL though in this hour, and Lamar Jackson

971
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: obviously very excited that he got his deal done and

972
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: he is now the highest well it's the biggest contract

973
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: in the NFL, and he has visions of grandeur.

974
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: In fact, he's talking in terms.

975
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: That he believes that he is capable of a six

976
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: thousand yard passing season, which obviously has never been accomplished.

977
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: We have seventeen games now, so I guess it's conceivable

978
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: through the math, though.

979
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's about three hundred and fifty yards

980
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: a game.

981
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: For an entire season. That's a lot of passing yards.

982
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: But he's excited because of all the additions that they

983
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: have made to their receiving corps. And this is a guy,

984
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: by the way, that's never even thrown for thirty five.

985
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: Hundred yards in a season.

986
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: But I'm really looking at these additions thinking, well, maybe

987
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: he's exaggerating a little bit. Nelson Agilare is a serviceable receiver. Yeah,

988
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: he's been a solid pro for about eight years, but

989
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: at no point.

990
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: Has he ever approached Pro Bowl status. That's for sure.

991
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham at one point was arguably the best receiver

992
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Those days are long gone. He hasn't

993
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: played a game and well over a year. And then

994
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: obviously you guys A Flowers, the rookie who like any

995
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: rookie will wait and see.

996
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 3: We've seen a.

997
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 2: Lot of rookies at all positions that are hyped coming

998
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: out of college that don't deliver in the NFL. But

999
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: a more concern to me is just the way they

1000
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: will handle their offense. You know, new coordinator. This is

1001
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: a team that blew the league away in twenty nineteen

1002
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: during his MVP season with their running game and you know,

1003
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 2: and mixing in the past, and he had amazingly efficient

1004
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: passing numbers. I don't think you really need to recreate

1005
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. We just talked about finding the right system

1006
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: to fit the talent of the quarterback the Ravens already

1007
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: have that he needs to stay healthy. Maybe a little

1008
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: less running is advisable. But the idea of you're going

1009
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: to convert him into, you know, a guy throwing for

1010
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: four five thousand yards a season, I just don't see it.

1011
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: Rich Well, you know what, It's so funny that that

1012
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: was your reaction to all this, because I just didn't

1013
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: take it very serious, you know, Lamar Jackson. I think

1014
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: this is the problem with Lamar Jackson not having an

1015
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: agent or a public relations person. I just can't really

1016
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: take anything he says all that seriously, Now, is he

1017
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: one of the highest paid players who's ever played professional sports?

1018
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 3: Well?

1019
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is he the highest paid NFL player ever? Yeah?

1020
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 1: I got to take that seriously. Kudos to Lamar Jackson

1021
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: for getting that deal done with the Ravens. He didn't

1022
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: get everything he wanted if he wanted a fully guaranteed contract. Obviously,

1023
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: this pales in comparison to that, considering he was only

1024
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: guaranteed one hundred eighty five million dollars. One hundred eighty

1025
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: five million dollars is a killing, and I think it's

1026
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: well deserved. I think he's one of the best players

1027
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: in this league players, not just quarterbacks, but players. He

1028
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: is a game changer. But I also think that he's unpolished.

1029
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: I think that as a leader of a team on

1030
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: social media and when he takes press, he sounds like

1031
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: a guy who hasn't had like a ton of people

1032
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: or influences who are are helping shape the narrative and

1033
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: for him. Sometimes, you know, sometimes it's the articles that

1034
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: are being written about a player that are helping to

1035
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: shape the narrative. Sometimes it's the public relations arm of

1036
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: the player that's operating when that player is away from

1037
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: the podium that helps shape the narrative, and he's had

1038
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: none of that help. And so when I listen to

1039
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: him and I hear him say, hey, I want to

1040
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: throw for six thousand yards and I want to win

1041
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: a super Bowl and I want to do this, Like,

1042
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, for whatever reason, it's not as meaningful

1043
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: as when you know Saya Patrick Mahomes says it, or

1044
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: even maybe a guy who has been less successful in

1045
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: the NFL over the stretch of his career, say Dak Prescott,

1046
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: Like when I hear Dak talk, I immediately assume, like, oh, well,

1047
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: Dak's serious, Like I just don't for whatever reason, like

1048
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: I have a hard time taking Lamar Jackson seriously.

1049
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I was listening to

1050
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: Colin Coward talking about, you know, quarterbacks that are built

1051
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: to life asked versus those that are built short term.

1052
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a very valid argument.

1053
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean when you look at a guy like at

1054
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 2: Tom Brady or and Aaron Rodgers and they've had these

1055
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 2: extended careers, and then you project a guy like Justin

1056
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: Herbert would seem to be one of those kind of guys,

1057
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: big body, pocket guy, you know, he's not going to

1058
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: get a lot of damage. And we saw it with

1059
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, who probably could still be a starting quarterback

1060
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: in the NFL, to be honest with you. And then

1061
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: you got guys like Lamar Jackson who probably falls more

1062
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: into where we were with guys like Michael Vick and

1063
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: Cam Newton, maybe Russell Russell Wilson as we have found out.

1064
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of rebound season he expects

1065
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: to have in Denver. But if you have a kind

1066
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: of quarterback that gives you so many multiple options because

1067
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: they can do it with their legs as well as

1068
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: the arm, then to me, you've got to write it

1069
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: out just as long as you can. I mean, you

1070
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: got a five year deal, right with Lamar Jackson, I

1071
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: have no plans beyond those five years. This is what

1072
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: he'd this is what separates him from the other quarterbacks

1073
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: in the NFL. I'm not going to try this was

1074
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 2: a mistake. Back in the Randall Cunningham days. If you

1075
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: go back to Randall Cunningham, he was again just an

1076
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: incredible athlete that could do so many different things, so

1077
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: versatile with his arm.

1078
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: He had a cannon arm, he had the legs, everything else.

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Speaker 3: They try to change him to preserve him.

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00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: Yep, and he actually had more injuries under that system

1081
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: than he had when he was running all over the field.

1082
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: So if I were the Ravens right now and I'm

1083
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: hearing my quarterback talking about, hey, I'm excited about all

1084
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: the added receivers, Oh right.

1085
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 3: Well that's good.

1086
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: I mean it's nice to have options and just dumping

1087
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: the ball off to Mark Andrews all the time and

1088
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: give yourself a few view options. But I'm not going

1089
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: to change your style. I mean, you there's a reason

1090
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: you won an MVP Award unanimously because you have a

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00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: unique skill set that we are going to use as

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00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: long as you possibly can do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and that's what you got to do with

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: a guy like Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: When you get the big paycheck, I mean, the expectation

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: from the fan base and from the team is the

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00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: reason why you got the paycheck, continues to be the

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: reason why you are now earning that paycheck. Like obviously,

1099
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: his performances in the past have given the Baltimore Ravens

1100
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: faith that if we invest in Lamar Jackson, we're going

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: to see similar results for the next five years or

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00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: next four years, right, you know, like that's why you

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00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: sign that contract. If all of a sudden we start

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00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: hearing that Lamar Jackson wants to look more like Peyton

1105
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: Manning than Lamar Jackson, well that's a big problem. Yeah.

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00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: So Peyton Manning back in whatever was twenty thirteen, I

1107
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: believe was the year through for five thousand, three hundred

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00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: some odd yards and he's the single season passing record

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Speaker 1: holder Lamar Jackson. If Lamar Jackson is doing exactly what

1110
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: he should be doing for the Ravens, shouldn't get close

1111
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: to that number. He just shouldn't. He's a dual threat

1112
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Speaker 1: quarterback now. And unless something changes, like and I mean

1113
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: a huge change where he becomes so dynamic as a passer,

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Speaker 1: it's irrefutable. You don't want him running because you're worried

1115
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: about him getting injured. That's one thing. But what's made

1116
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson special is the way he can threaten a

1117
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: defense with his legs in his arm. So he should

1118
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: be a guy who passes for thirty five to four

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Speaker 1: thousand yards who rushes for an additional thousand, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he had twelve hundred yards rushing his MVP season

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01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: and about thirty two hundred yards passing.

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Speaker 1: Perfect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what he did. He said, thirty

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Speaker 3: six touchdowns and only six picks.

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Speaker 8: That's exactly how he should look because the defense should

1127
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 8: feel so off balanced, should feel so threatened by the

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Speaker 8: fact that Lamar Jackson can turn any pass into a run,

1129
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 8: and any run play that he's involved with, you don't

1130
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 8: have enough defenders to that side of the field to

1131
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Speaker 8: stop it.

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Speaker 1: Because when you add the quarterback, it's a problem. It's

1133
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: a problem. I mean, you just don't have the numbers.

1134
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: So if you have a Lamar Jackson playing like Lamar

1135
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: Jackson should play, he shouldn't come anywhere near six thousand yards.

1136
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: Now winning a Super Bowl I think that's fantastic to

1137
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: put that out there in the universe. Hey, look, I

1138
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: signed this contract because I want to bring a Super

1139
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: Bowl championship to Baltimore. Perfect. But you are not a

1140
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: passing quarterback. That's not who you are, Lamar. You're not,

1141
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: And that's okay, because you're one of the most special

1142
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks we've ever seen in the history of football. But

1143
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: it's not just because you're an arm it's because you

1144
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: do so much more when you're on the field and

1145
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: you're healthy. So hopefully they can a keep him healthy

1146
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: and hopefully be to your point, Steve, and I agree

1147
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: with it one hundred percent. I hope that he stays

1148
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, he doesn't try to evolve into something more

1149
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: than that, because what he is is special enough to

1150
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, right.

1151
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if he only has five years the terms

1152
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: of this contract to be an elite quarterback, but in

1153
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: the process delivers a Super Bowl championship, it was well

1154
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: worth it, even if he doesn't play another five to

1155
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: ten years beyond that. By the way, we're brought to

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Speaker 2: what is trending right now. Dual threat Moncey Belanya is here.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yep, that's right. You wear a lot of hats, Moncey,

1162
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: A lot of them.

1163
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, not really, but yeah, no, you know, I mean

1164
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 7: like actual hats.

1165
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: I hardly ever wear my.

1166
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 7: Baseball hats but but I have like seven and I

1167
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 7: think I wear.

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Speaker 2: Versus Ility in this business is essential. Everyone in this

1169
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: business has to do that, right. I mean, if you

1170
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: want to sort of maintain, you got to be able

1171
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: to do this that this.

1172
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm learning from the best. So

1173
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: here I am learning for the best. She's looking somewhere,

1174
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 3: she's trying to get eye contact with somebody else straight up.

1175
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 3: And the other day I did, I was like, Hartman,

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 3: get off our screen because I.

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Speaker 7: Was walking down the hallway and they were doing the

1178
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 7: Lakers thing and you were on our screen, and I

1179
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 7: literally yelled, Hartman, get off our screen.

1180
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: And everybody's like, he's always on there.

1181
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Speaker 2: By the way that those were those were taped over

1182
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: ten years ago. If you do not get any residuals

1183
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: out of check in the h I knew that at

1184
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: the time I did that, And and they just it's

1185
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: funny because it's the Laker station.

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Speaker 3: Uh and here.

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Speaker 2: Spectrum, yes, and they they can't carry the playoff games

1188
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: obviously right now, so in place of the playoff games,

1189
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: they run those things. Got ye fillers.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Well, funny that you guys were talking about

1191
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson because I came across. He was just on

1192
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 7: The Lounge, which is a Baltimore Ravens podcast, and so

1193
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 7: I've been listening to it trying to get little, you know,

1194
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 7: snippets of what he said. Some of the things that

1195
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 7: I caught was that he said that they right after

1196
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 7: they got Odell Beckham Junior, that he called his coach Harbaugh,

1197
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 7: John Harbaugh and was like, hey, can we still get Hopkins,

1198
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 7: and that Harbaugh was like, no, can't do that, and

1199
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 7: then he's like, okay, I'm just saying we should. Then

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Speaker 7: he also said that watching that playoff game where he

1201
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 7: was injured and he couldn't play last season, that he

1202
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 7: was so mad that he wanted to throw his TV,

1203
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 7: like we see those videos of people throwing their TVs

1204
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 7: when they're mad. He said he almost did that, but

1205
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 7: then he realized he had to pay for it, so

1206
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 7: he didn't do it. He also said that he didn't

1207
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 7: want to be traded, that he requested the trade as

1208
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 7: a way to get the ball rolling, but that he

1209
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 7: never actually wanted to be traded from the Ravens even

1210
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 7: though he did request it. And it's about a thirty

1211
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 7: five minute interview on the Lounge that he did two

1212
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Speaker 7: days ago. But let's go on to Major League Baseball

1213
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 7: because now we got more games. The Oriols and the

1214
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 7: Braves were tied for the longest time. They're no longer tied,

1215
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 7: but they're in the bottom of the tenth inning and

1216
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 7: the Oriols are beating the Braves in Atlanta two to one.

1217
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 7: Atlanta is down to their final two outs, but they

1218
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 7: have a runner on third base. The Phillies have scored

1219
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 7: first against the Red Sox. The Red Sox are not

1220
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 7: doing are actually doing really well. They've won eight in

1221
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 7: a row while the Phillies have lost six in a row.

1222
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Speaker 7: But the Phillies are beating the Red Sox one zero,

1223
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 7: bottom of the fourth inning. The Rockies and the Mets

1224
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 7: are tied at three apiece top of the third inning,

1225
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 7: with the Guardians beating the Twins two zero bottom of

1226
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 7: the fourth inning. And the Yankees, Oh, they've been no bueno,

1227
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 7: but right now they're beating the best team in baseball,

1228
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 7: the Rays four zero, top of the fourth inning.

1229
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Speaker 3: The Cardinals are no boeno. They've lost eight in a row.

1230
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Speaker 7: They have the worst record in the National League at

1231
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 7: ten and twenty four, but they're currently beating the Tigers

1232
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 7: one zero top of the second inning with the Royals

1233
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 7: up on the A's one zero bottom of the second inning.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, Ali Monzie, thank you very much,

1235
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Speaker 3: and she will continue to pursue the multitude of employment

1236
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: opportunities he has over these years.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Rich Sean Clifford, the former Penn State

1238
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: quarterback who, by the way, was the Penn State quarterback

1239
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 2: when you played at Penn State, he just finished his

1240
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: twenty year run at Penn State and was drafted on

1241
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: the guy technically he actually was there six years, by

1242
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: the way, he was there and he was so good

1243
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 2: that he forced Will Levis to transfer to Kentucky. So

1244
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: Sean Clifford, who actually is twenty four now, was drafted

1245
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: by the Packers, and he was handed eight locker, which

1246
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: is exciting for any rookie. It just so happened it

1247
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: was Aaron Rodgers locker. They also signed him the number eight,

1248
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: which is ironically the number that Aaron Rodgers will be

1249
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: wearing as a New York Jet.

1250
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1251
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: So none of this happens by accidents. No, none of

1252
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: this happens by accidents. So what do you think the

1253
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 2: mentality is of the Packers in sort of poking the bear.

1254
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: And again, it's not like the Packers are going to

1255
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: have a multitude of games against the Jets, So I

1256
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: guess in some regards it's harmless. But why hand a

1257
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback the locker of an old time legend and

1258
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: assign him a number that that old time legend will

1259
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: be wearing next year in a different uniform.

1260
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of expert trolling.

1261
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much so.

1262
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: And you know what's actually crazy, crazy er I should say,

1263
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: is not only will he be wearing Sean Clifford Aaron Rodgers'

1264
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: new number with the Jets, and he's sitting in Aaron Rodgers'

1265
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: old number with the or old locker with the Packers,

1266
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: but Sean Clifford also grew up in Florham Park, New Jersey,

1267
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: where the Jets practice facility. Wow, No, I'm kidding, I'm

1268
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: making that up.

1269
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 3: Guy's gonna say, no, really going next?

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? No? No, No, he's I'm sure he's

1271
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Why are the Packers doing this?

1273
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: The Packers look, sports are becoming I shouldn't say sports,

1274
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 1: but sports teams are becoming more publicly petty and they're

1275
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Speaker 1: doing it because it works. We were just discussing almost

1276
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: this exact same thing in some ways where you had

1277
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: Fernando Tatist Junior hit two home runs in a single

1278
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: game on Friday for the Padres against the Dodgers. Why

1279
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: is that important, Well, it's because the Dodgers have owned

1280
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: the NL West for ever twenty five years. I mean,

1281
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: it's just been a ridiculous rule.

1282
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 3: Let's give him fifteen.

1283
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: Give them fifteen. You know they ran into that problem. Yeah,

1284
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: called the Giants.

1285
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that ridiculous hundred and seven win season.

1286
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: Years they were They have been incredible. But the Padres

1287
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: are trying to make noise. They have this new roster,

1288
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: they're spending a ton of money. They're rebuilding their farm

1289
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: system after making a huge number of trades, including to

1290
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: get Juan Soto on their team, which we'll see maybe

1291
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: they sign him long term if he has a good

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Speaker 1: enough contract. But all of a sudden, this nobody team

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Speaker 1: out of Nowheeresville in the NL West is trying to

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01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: make their bones, and the way they're doing it is

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01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: by flashing a meme up on the jumbo tron. After

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: the Padres beat the Dodgers in game one of their

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: opening series of the year facing each other of Clayton

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: Kershaw crying and over the top of it flashing the

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Speaker 1: text Padres Win, Padres Win. They're trying to troll them,

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01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: and the reason why they're doing that is because the

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01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: rivalry is good for the Padres. It's not good for

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. It's good for the Padres. And I think

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01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: the same things applying here with the Packers and the Jets. Look,

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: the Packers are in the middle of a rebuild. But

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01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: if they could get people excited for the first time

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:59,919
Speaker 1: the Packers face their old teammate, their old hero, Aaron Rodgers,

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01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: the better off this is gonna be. So I bet

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Speaker 1: you this isn't the last of the trolling we're gonna

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Speaker 1: see from the Packers, you know. I bet you they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do more stuff like this. I bet they're gonna

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Speaker 1: make it hard on Aaron Rodgers from the standpoint of

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: like poking the bear, because really, realistically, it's the best

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01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: thing the Packers could do, especially if Jordan Love ends

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01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: up working out, because the Jets have a really good

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Speaker 1: team he's going to And that's the only reason why

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01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,879
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wanted to go there. That's a top five defense.

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Speaker 1: I think Robert sala is a pretty good coach. They've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of young, exciting offensive weapons around that offense.

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01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: They needed a quarterback desperately last year. They probably would

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Speaker 1: have been a much better team with one, or definitely

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01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: would have been a much better team with one. And

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Speaker 1: then they've brought in a couple of players that Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers has played with over the years, like Cobb and

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Speaker 1: Alexander or Alan Lazard. So you have these guys who

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Speaker 1: are gonna join him. I think the Packers are just

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Speaker 1: trying to troll the Jets, and I think it's probably smart.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in how Aaron Rodgers is conducting his personal

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01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: business since officially becoming a New York Jets. Suddenly he's

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01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: popping up at all these sporting events. And we know

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01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is a big sports fan, and obviously back

1331
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: in green Bay. Last time I checked, Green Bay does

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01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: not have an NBA team, or a Major League Baseball team,

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01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: a NHL team, but they have all those obviously, and

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Speaker 2: plenty of that in New York. But you know, he

1335
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: addressed the media situation New York as opposed to sort

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: of hiding in Green Bay all those years, and he

1337
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: seems anxious to tackle that. But he hasn't been under

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01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 2: any scrutiny yet. As you said, expectations are sky high

1339
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: with the Jets right now. They do have a lot

1340
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 2: of young talent on the offensive side of the football,

1341
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: and they figured to be significantly better with Zach Wilson

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: being replaced by Aaron Rodgers. But you know how the

1343
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: New York media works. If you fall short anywhere short

1344
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: of where they deem you should be, then they will.

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Speaker 3: Hammer you mercilessly.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just because Aaron Rodgers has a way of

1347
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 2: conducting himself that can put off a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just, I'm just he's start of playing the

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01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 2: game right now, you know, showing up at By the way,

1350
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: if you're going to show up at a Knicks playoff game,

1351
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: you better hope they win. They didn't win the other night,

1352
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,480
Speaker 2: you know. I was like, yeah, because they'll hold you accountable.

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01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: Why did you show up? We were better off when

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01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: you weren't showing up at Knicks games. H Huh, Spike,

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01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: Lee's fine, You're not yet, well, But I just I

1356
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: wonder exactly how it's going to work out with Aaron

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 2: if things don't start off hot with the Jets, because

1358
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 2: they're gonna expect them off and running from day one.

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Speaker 1: Well, look in green Bay for as much as the

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01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: national media, and I really do think that this has

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01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: been driven by a handful of people who have taken

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01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: umbrage with Aaron Rodgers as a target. Which is fine

1363
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: because guess what, everybody's entitled to their opinion, and there

1364
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: are networks that pay certain people a tremendous amount of

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01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: money to have strong opinions about things, including sports, and

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 1: so if there are voices in the room who dislike

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and who he is and how he comports himself,

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01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: that's their agenda. That's their opinion, and they're entitled to it.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that's shaped how the how the

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Speaker 1: country views this guy. He's endeared himself to Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you there's a lot of Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers fans who will tell you, like, we don't

1373
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: want to see Aaron Rodgers go, and they're blaming the

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: front office for creating some problems with them. Now, don't

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: get me wrong, He's difficult, and I think that has

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: been frustrating for green Bay fans, and very similar to

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01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: the far of leaving Green Bay experience, this had those

1378
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: same pangs of weird desperation at times. But Okay, the

1379
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: guy was seriously considering retiring. He decided he wasn't done

1380
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: playing yet. He wanted to go to the Jets. He

1381
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: sort of called a shot, and the Packers made it happen.

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01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't think any anybody who's a true Green Bay

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: Packers fan is super excited for the Jordan Love experience.

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably a lot of people are like, well,

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01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we moved on from a Hall of Famer,

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01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: and maybe we had to at some point anyways, but

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: it doesn't promise you that the good times are going

1388
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: to keep rolling with Jordan Love. We'll see now. In

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01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: terms of Aaron Rodgers in the New York media, I

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think output is going to be

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01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 1: the most important thing. But I also think that he

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01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: is a classy enough guy talking to members of the

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: media and interacting with the fans in his area like

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: he did in Green Bay that I'm not so sure

1395
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: he isn't gonna win over the New York fans. Like obviously,

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: the most important thing is winning, but that's a charming

1397
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: guy when he wants to be. And I think I

1398
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: think this is I personally think this is gonna work

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01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: out gangbusters for the New York Jets. I think they're you.

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Speaker 2: Remember Brett Far Brett Farr was a likable guy, right, Yeah,

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: one year with the Jets.

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01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's a terrible year.

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 3: By the way, and what happened with the Jets?

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: Also, I mean, I understand there are a couple of

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01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: photographs that's.

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01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, but I mean, isn't that something that

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01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: New York's are like, Hey, okay, there's an.

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 3: Edge years, an edge, a little bit of an edge year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Let's put it this way. It

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: looks like Aaron Rodgers is tearing a lot of pages

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01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: out of the Brett Faarr playbook. Maybe leave that one in,

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: by the way.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, a clarification on one of the

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01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: more bizarre picks in this year's NFL draft. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Hornberger once again, and

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are live from

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Speaker 2: the tyrac dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: One of the.

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Speaker 2: More controversial draft picks this year in the NFL was

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine Ers selecting kicker Jake Moody

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01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,839
Speaker 2: out of Michigan in the third round. By the way,

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01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: one of the reasons it's so controversial is that's the

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01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: highest level than any kicker has been drafted since the

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Speaker 2: infamous Tampa Bay Buccaneers pick of Roberto Aguayo in twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen out of Florida State.

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 3: He was a three time All.

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 2: American as a rookie with the Buccaneers second round pick,

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01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 2: and by the way, they traded a third and a

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 2: fourth to move up this second to get him.

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01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 3: Guyo.

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01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 2: His rookie season, he had the lowest field goal percentage

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Speaker 2: of any kicker in the NFL, was released and has

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01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: never made a team since. He played one year second

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01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: round pick kicker. So now we have clarification on exactly

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Speaker 2: why the forty nine ers made this pick. John Lynch

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Speaker 2: in an interview said, if we had not taken him there,

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't have gotten him. Like people were just leaping

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01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: over each other to try to get high enough in

1439
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: the draft to come away with a kicker.

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Speaker 3: Jake Moody now.

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01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: As a guy who was in the trenches as you were,

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01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: rich and he used to see the kicker and the

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01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: punter long snapper sort of off on the.

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 3: Side, you know, and they're doing their little thing.

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01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: If you were a general manager, no matter how good

1446
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: a college kicker was, would you expend a third round pick.

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01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 2: By the way, he's only the sixth kicker since the

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01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 2: two thousand draft to be selected in the top one

1449
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 2: hundred picks of the draft. But do you think that's

1450
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 2: a sound choice even if he turns out to be

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: a successful kicker.

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01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 1: Well, listen, if he turns out to be a great kicker,

1453
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: like a Pro Bowl kicker many times over and over again,

1454
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: and he, you know, maybe even gets consideration to be

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01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer at the end of his career,

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01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: like potentially Robbie Gould here who was their former kicker,

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01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: then okay, yeah, I guess you could justify it after

1458
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: the fact, but the chances of that happening are so slim,

1459
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: And the value of a third round draft pick can't

1460
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: be understated. I mean, there are plenty of third round

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01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:40,959
Speaker 1: draft picks who could be supremely consequential to the success

1462
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Speaker 1: of your franchise. I mean, we've seen this time and

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01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 1: time again, so to and I'm going to I'm going

1464
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: to say this fully aware that this could be, this

1465
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: could blow up in my face. But to waste a

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Speaker 1: pick on a kicker and then to try to justify

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01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: it by saying, well, well, if we didn't, somebody else

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01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: was going to oh yeah. I mean, it's just it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: If the forty nine ers struggle in their division at

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01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: any point this season, people are going to bring this

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01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: back up and be like, yeah, well, that's what serves

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: you right for screwing around with the draft. And then

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01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 1: they're going to start pointing to the third round draft

1474
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: picks around Moody or who were taken after Moody, who

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01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers could have selected. I promise you

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01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: that will happen.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, when you think about the history of

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01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: the NFL in terms of kickers that have had value, value,

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01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: and Tucker is certainly one of them right now, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's probably projected to be a Hall of

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01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: Famer someday. Yeah, you know, Vinettieri. I mean, there aren't

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Speaker 2: a lot of them. It's a very short list, the

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01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: Morton Anderson's of the world, a very short list of

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01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: kickers that have really.

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Speaker 3: Had an impact on the game. I just Jack, No, No,

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01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 3: he's not a Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Look, half the league right now has a kicker that

1488
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 2: was cut by the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: I mean it literally seems like half the kickers in

1491
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: the NFL were failed kickers with the Chargers that somehow

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: found their stroke when they joined another team. I just

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01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 2: think a lot of guys can kick. Yeah, I think

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01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: it's a terrible pick and no justification. All right, an

1495
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: event that has played out will tell you about it.

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01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, all right. It is NBA

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01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 2: playoff basketball happening here about half an hour as the

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Speaker 2: Celtics get ready to take on the Sixers, later the

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Speaker 2: Nuggets and the Suns, as we are making our way

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Speaker 2: all the way to the conference finals. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we're broadcasting live right now from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm watching here Bowl versus Burrito with

1508
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: Bo and Sam. Oh wow, Yeah, they went to a

1509
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 2: place where you have an option a bowl versus burrito,

1510
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 2: the contents are essentially the same minus the tortilla. I

1511
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: asked you, bowl versus burrito, with all the contents identical,

1512
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: which way do you go?

1513
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked. It's an important question that, frankly,

1514
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: I think has divided America for a long.

1515
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 3: A versus burrito. The people are very strong on both

1516
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 3: sides of this.

1517
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: I am a traditionalist. I think that a burrito should

1518
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: never part ways with its tortilla.

1519
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah.

1520
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna have a burrito, just go

1521
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: ahead and just I mean, just have yourself a burrito,

1522
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 1: have yourself a day.

1523
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I'm I'm looking here because Moncy has stepped in.

1524
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: She's the tie breaker here. So Bo goes bowl, Sam

1525
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 2: goes burrito, and she's going bowl.

1526
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 3: She's going bull.

1527
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 2: I have to admit, I'm a bowl guy myself, and

1528
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: I love good burritos.

1529
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: You see me devour burritos.

1530
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: I know that what they're eating is a salad, though,

1531
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: I mean.

1532
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 3: You know there's meat content in it, well not in Mance's,

1533
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 3: well maybe not in Monsi's, but everything else is in there.

1534
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: I mean, she she claims she's a vegan at times,

1535
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: and we know that she's like a vegetarian pescatarian.

1536
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 3: Maybe Mancy has a meat substitute in the Erala. I mean,

1537
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: but you know how her meat. We've we've sampled her

1538
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: meat substitutes.

1539
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've tried them, Yeah we have, we did. And

1540
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this right now. When you stack up a

1541
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: fake chicken wing against the real deal, Holyfield, I mean,

1542
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: the fake doesn't even stand.

1543
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 3: Let me let me tell you why sometimes Bowl is preferable.

1544
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you.

1545
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: And one of the reasons I went to Bowl, even

1546
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: though I'm the big burrito guy.

1547
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh you went. You went with Bowl today?

1548
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 3: Well I didn't not today, but I normally do.

1549
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 2: And in the place and everyone knows the place are

1550
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: doing about anyway, Bowl versus burrito. But the reason I

1551
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: like to go Bowl is because I love chips. And

1552
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: when you have the chips using the bull as sort.

1553
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 3: Of a dip, you know, for the chip. Well, but

1554
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 3: hang on this, Am I right about that?

1555
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 2: When you mentioned the idea of the chip with the

1556
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: bull and then scoop it up, well exactly, and who

1557
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: it becomes a dip.

1558
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: It becomes a a burrito contents dip, I mean wrecked.

1559
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this, like if you walk into a breath.

1560
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 2: Hold on Mancy's coming on here could to clarify it,

1561
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 2: and she got excited when I talked about this whole aspect.

1562
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about, Moncey.

1563
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: Where you have the chips on the side, scooping up

1564
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: the content of the bowl.

1565
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 7: That's exactly what I'm doing. Literally, what I'm doing is

1566
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 7: instead of having the burrito with the tortilla, right, I'm

1567
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 7: having the burrito just in a bowl so I can

1568
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 7: eat the chips and I don't feel terrible about myself exactly.

1569
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's all. But the tortillas just exchanged then for

1570
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 9: the chips. What the chips made from for me, all

1571
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 9: made from tortilla, all fried tortilla, exactly.

1572
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: I just I mean, okay, but we're not doing the

1573
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: thing that people do, Like we're not calling it a

1574
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: burrito bowl because it is now taking on numerous different shapes.

1575
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you have the dried chip, yeah,

1576
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: next to a burrito, it's not the same, and it's

1577
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: a fully loaded chip, yes, with all the contents of

1578
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: your burrito.

1579
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,480
Speaker 7: And what I put in my bowl is the exact

1580
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 7: same thing I would put in my burrito.

1581
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, what happens if like you'res you know, I

1582
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: mean you could do this with you could take a

1583
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: bite or say three bites out of the top of burrito.

1584
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: This depending on the size of your mouth, and you

1585
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: will have an open cavern where you can then take

1586
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: a tortilla chip and then dunk it into the burrito.

1587
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, then you actually had, all of

1588
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: a sudden, you've got an empty burrito's just getting two decades.

1589
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 2: There's no worse thing than a big bite of nothing

1590
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 2: but tortilla in a burrito. The burrito's got to have

1591
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, our favorite place to have a

1592
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: breakfast Bria. There's no empty tortilla, all right, I mean,

1593
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 2: there's content from the first bite to the last part.

1594
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: I'm not that's the way a proper burrito should be built.

1595
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with the fact that the content makes

1596
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: the burrito. Also that the tortilla shell is largely forgettable. However, yes,

1597
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: crucial to the burrito making process. And I listen, vote

1598
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: for me. In twenty twenty four, every burrito will have

1599
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 1: a tortilla. Every delicious Mexican offering will be handheld. That's

1600
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: the other thing. It's like, I mean it used to

1601
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,919
Speaker 1: be like you could eat a burrito while you're driving,

1602
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: like no sweat, no problem. Now if you got a bowl,

1603
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 1: I mean that's a two handed operation.

1604
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,879
Speaker 7: Well, well that's a different and no, no, no, that

1605
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 7: that's a different situation.

1606
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 3: Obviously. If I'm driving, I'm gonna get the burrito, right, exactly.

1607
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: Obviously, Well, you you brought into the chips like all

1608
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden, off the top or top ropes. Like

1609
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to explain to everybody the convenience of.

1610
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 3: The breed question when you have a bowl, fork or

1611
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 3: spoon fork. If I'm not using the chip, then I'm

1612
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 3: using my fork.

1613
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 1: I mean, now we're talking about forking a burrito.

1614
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 3: See, I think that you need both.

1615
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that because once you start really

1616
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: getting down to the dip you want to use, you

1617
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: want to mix up the same Yeah, exactly.

1618
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean this is just I don't know.

1619
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 9: Just now, Sam is old school burrito all the way. Yes,

1620
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 9: I have, and I'm waiting for this conversation to wrap ups.

1621
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 9: I just I had one bite of him, like that

1622
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 9: was great and now I'm like, I was so proud

1623
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 9: of Bobo is like me, man, he's just a power.

1624
01:26:56,280 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 9: She empty that bowl in about seconds had a burritos,

1625
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 9: so then we could call it a bo rito. I mean,

1626
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 9: come on, jokes, we're missing out on Joe.

1627
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm excited that Monsey thinks the same

1628
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 2: way I do in terms of the chip with the bowl.

1629
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 2: I like that burrito. Obviously on the road there's no

1630
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 2: option there. Dude, Yeah, I can't do that. So all right, well,

1631
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 2: I just wanted to clarify that. I also want to

1632
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: ask you Rich about an event that happened yesterday, the

1633
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby. Yesterday, it was hilarious because Bucky Brooks and

1634
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: I were doing our show and they actually have a

1635
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: longer pre race show than they have like for a

1636
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 2: pregame show for the Super Bowl. It's like five or

1637
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: six hours all for.

1638
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 3: A two minute race.

1639
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: So I'm watching this and and yesterday morning I woke

1640
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 2: up and just you know, turned on the TV. It

1641
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 2: was on a news channel and they were the coronation

1642
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 2: of King Charles the third had just completed, right, and

1643
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:05,799
Speaker 2: there was all this questioning whether the monarchy has any

1644
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 2: bearing on the world in the twenty first century. You know,

1645
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 2: you go back a thousand years and the Westminster Abbey

1646
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: and everything else, and there's something to be said for tradition,

1647
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 2: and there's something to be said about validity, like is

1648
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 2: there any place for it?

1649
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 3: And I watch horse racing.

1650
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, horse racing is a sport of kings. I mean,

1651
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 2: horse racing has a long, long history, way back in

1652
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 2: the day. I mean this was the one hundred and

1653
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 2: forty ninth running at the Kentucky Derby. Oh yeah, But

1654
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 2: the headlines out of the Derby had nothing to do

1655
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: with the race, where of course the favorite forty was

1656
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: a late scratch and some anonymous horse ends up winning,

1657
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 2: which by the way, happens a lot at the Derby

1658
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: because it's such a crowded field. Upsets are the norm

1659
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: at the Kentucky Derby. But the big headline was seven

1660
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 2: horses dead right at Churchill Downs. And you know, I've

1661
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: talked to this.

1662
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 3: We had the epidemic at Santa Anita where they all

1663
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 3: these dead horses were and I'm just I'm trying to

1664
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 3: look at it. I mean, what you talk about out

1665
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 3: of touch, I mean we talk.

1666
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: About the the the people that are at a coronation,

1667
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: you know, and they were trying to show some diversity,

1668
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, but overall, I mean it's you know, it's

1669
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 2: not really all that diverse. And certainly it's the same

1670
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: way in horse racing.

1671
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 3: A bunch of really rich people, you know, with their

1672
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 3: kakamami cats, and to me, it just it looks out

1673
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 3: of place. And then you have the added you know,

1674
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 3: horror of these horses dying. I just I don't.

1675
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out have we played out? Because

1676
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 2: I mentioned this in the nineteen fifties in this country,

1677
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: there were four sports that dominated the headlines. They were

1678
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 2: college football, not pro football, baseball obviously, boxing, and horse racing. Yep,

1679
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: those were the full There were main headline sports in

1680
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: this country seventy years ago. I just were is there

1681
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 2: a place anymore for horse racing?

1682
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: Well? Look, even fun traditions eventually get to the point

1683
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: where people people realized, like, maybe the negatives outweigh the positives.

1684
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 1: You know, there's a beach nearby my house where I

1685
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 1: live in San Diego that for years and years and

1686
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: years allowed drinking. You know, didn't matter. You know, you

1687
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: bring your beverages, your kegs, your bottles your cans down

1688
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: to the beach. You know, you burn your fires when

1689
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: the sun goes down and you have yourself a time.

1690
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: And so it was a party for years, for decades.

1691
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: People remembered this so fondly and it was a fun tradition,

1692
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: but the reality was for the other days of the

1693
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: week where people didn't feel like partying, you know, and

1694
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: families were bringing their kids down to the beach. There

1695
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: was broken glass. You know, there were people who you know,

1696
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: would would sit down and injure them on paraphernalia that

1697
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: was left over from the night of partying the day before.

1698
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 1: The water was gross, like, there were problems, right, So,

1699
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: even though it was a fun tradition, you know, summers especially,

1700
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: they changed the rules. They made it so it was

1701
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: a dry beach, you know, they put in a boardwalk,

1702
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 1: they made it more of a tourist destination as opposed

1703
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: to a local hang and you know what, it's better.

1704
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: It's better now. So I don't know if the Kentucky

1705
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Derby is going to have a place in culture moving forward.

1706
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: Things change, Attitudes change, you know, people have obviously a

1707
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: much more sympathetic view towards animals now than they've ever

1708
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: had in the history of this country. That's for sure,

1709
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, and it's very possible there will be a

1710
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: day where, you know, the extravagance and the tradition of

1711
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: this event and the the fun that it brings, because

1712
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: it is fun. If you've never been to a horse

1713
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: racing track, you know, if you can get over some

1714
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: of the things that you just discussed, like that these

1715
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 1: horses will sometimes will sometimes pass away in the act

1716
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: of horse racing. You know, they can be a fun time.

1717
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: Del Mar Race Track, you know, the Belmont, the Preakness,

1718
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:22,440
Speaker 1: the I mean, you know, go anywhere it's It's It's Saratoga.

1719
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there are famous tracks. There's a lot of

1720
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 1: fun to be had. But but yeah, I mean, does

1721
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: it still have a place in society. That's going to

1722
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: be a question that's going to be asked more and

1723
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 1: more over the next few decades.

1724
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I ever went to a

1725
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 2: race where a horse broke down on the track. You know,

1726
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 2: they bring out the curtains and everything else, and it

1727
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 2: just it was the weirdest feelings, like, Wow.

1728
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,879
Speaker 1: I just witnessed the end of one of these giant,

1729
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: majestic beasts.

1730
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: It's like it's And by the way, Sam brought up

1731
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,560
Speaker 2: a point, and I've I thought Sam brought up a

1732
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 2: really good point yesterday. Sam was like, why do we

1733
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 2: have to put these animals down? I mean, I understand

1734
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 2: if a race horse is bred to be that a

1735
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 2: race horse and it breaks a leg and can no

1736
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 2: longer obviously perform as a race horse. I don't know

1737
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 2: the logistics I mean of a two thousand whatever how

1738
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 2: much a way animal on those thin legs, whether if

1739
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:26,480
Speaker 2: they can't support themselves standing up, whether it can be repaired,

1740
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 2: or even if they can never race again, can't they live?

1741
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 3: Can't they go on in life?

1742
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I mean I'm just letting you know this.

1743
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: This is a guess. This is a guess. I don't

1744
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,839
Speaker 1: know this for sure, but if I were to guess,

1745
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: the reason why they're put down is because it's cheaper.

1746
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like, let's think about it. So you're gonna

1747
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 1: house a horse that will never race again, You'll feed

1748
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: a horse, You'll put it out, you know, to pasture.

1749
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's gonna buy a horse.

1750
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,719
Speaker 2: No, no, And obviously it costs a lot of money

1751
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 2: to me hating the horse and everything else, And.

1752
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: So I hate. I hate to be so blunt, but

1753
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: but that's that's hey, listen, and that's part of the culture.

1754
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 1: If that's true, that's my best guess I can offer you.

1755
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: I've never actually researched it, but if I were to guess,

1756
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 1: the reason why a lame horse is put down is financial, right,

1757
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: And that's it.

1758
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 3: Again.

1759
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: It's an interesting sport, man, it is.

1760
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 3: And I'm just it just seem weird.

1761
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 2: On a day of this coronation of King Charles, first

1762
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: coronation by the way, in seventy years since his mother

1763
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 2: was coronated as the Queen of England. Then all of

1764
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm watching, you know, the sport of kings,

1765
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 2: you know, horse racing. I'm like, and then they pulled

1766
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 2: all stops and Patrick Mahomes was there. By the way,

1767
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:51,759
Speaker 2: when did Dale Earnhard Junior become a correspondent for horse racing?

1768
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 2: I was And by the way, he didn't even look

1769
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 2: the same like he was like, you know, yuppieish.

1770
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: And everything else.

1771
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 2: It's sort of weird looking. It was crazy. It was like,

1772
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 2: what's going on? I mean, all right, we get ready.

1773
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 3: The Lakers did a number on the Golden State Warriors

1774
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 3: last night beyond this series.

1775
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 2: If there is a beyond for the Lakers, are they

1776
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 2: a serious threat to win another NBA championship.

1777
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 3: We'll break it down for you. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

1778
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and are at Charmberger Welcome back. This is

1779
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, and we are live from the tire

1780
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios are getting ready for the start

1781
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 2: of this game between the Sixers and the Celtics. By

1782
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 2: the way, they're showing the Beard James Harden, who was

1783
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 2: phenomenal in Game one of this series, forty five points,

1784
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 2: Big three at the end of the game. Sixers went

1785
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 2: on the road against the Celtics without Embiid, and then

1786
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:56,759
Speaker 2: Embiid comes back, he's his usual self and James Harden

1787
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 2: just disappears. Yeah, it's just unbelievable how bad he was

1788
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 2: in Game three, considering how great he was in Game one,

1789
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:11,759
Speaker 2: and you know, it's just it brings up a point

1790
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 2: in that series. And really the kind of player that

1791
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 2: James Harden is when he was at his peak with

1792
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets, and you know, and he controlled the

1793
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 2: basketball just an absurd percentage of the time.

1794
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 3: Essentially the ball was in his hands.

1795
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: You know about eighty five percent of the time, and

1796
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 2: then he would take a three or do whatever he

1797
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 2: did with the basketball. It's just interesting again when we

1798
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 2: talk about bringing stars together to create so called super

1799
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 2: teams with the idea of with all this talent, we

1800
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 2: can't possibly not win a championship.

1801
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 3: There still has to be a level of chemistry, right

1802
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean.

1803
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Because I go all the way back to the formation

1804
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 2: of really the first super team was when Wilt Chamberlain

1805
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 2: was traded to the Lakers to join Elgin Baylor and

1806
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 2: Jerry West. And I'm telling you, everyone thought this is absurd,

1807
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 2: They're gonna go eighty two to zero. But in order

1808
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 2: to get Chamberlain, the Lakers had to give up some

1809
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 2: pretty valuable pieces. And when they had three superstars on

1810
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 2: the court simultaneously, you're reminded, you may have three superstars

1811
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 2: on the court, but there's only one basketball.

1812
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:22,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1813
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so watching Harden struggle to be the guy

1814
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 2: who was in Game one when Embiid's on the floor,

1815
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see what happens coming up in

1816
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 2: this matchup.

1817
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, because look, this is Embiid's team. Harden joined mid

1818
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: season to see if this could work. But it's Embiid's team,

1819
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant moving on from the Nuts and going to

1820
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: the Suns. It makes more sense that the Suns can

1821
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: find a way to make it work now against Denver.

1822
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 2: Well, it worked the other night because Devin Booker was unconscious. Well, yeah,

1823
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 2: twenty five shooting forty seven points. If he doesn't get

1824
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 2: all those points, they're down three to zero in that series.

1825
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, And I was gonna say it against

1826
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: Denver for two games at least outside the Booker night.

1827
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: It looks like this may not work this season, but

1828
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,679
Speaker 1: we've seen it in season pass where Kevin Durant can

1829
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: play second fiddle to a Steph Curry.

1830
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 2: But he wasn't second fiddle Steph Curry. If anything, Steph

1831
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 2: Curry became second fiddle to Kevin Durant. I always gave

1832
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 2: Steph Curry credit for that because here he had won

1833
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: back to back MVP awards and he really stepped back

1834
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 2: to allow Durant to be the guy.

1835
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: Well, the chemistry worked in Golden State, I guess, is

1836
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,719
Speaker 1: the way I'll phrase it, because there there were times

1837
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 1: where Steph took over games. There were times that Clay

1838
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: took over games. But they The way it worked was

1839
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 1: because Clay and Steph are both perimeter shooters. Like it

1840
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: kind of works having a ball dominant offensive creator who

1841
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: could drive and kick. With Harden and Embiid, I mean,

1842
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: think about their games. Their games are happening in the

1843
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: same real estate. You know, whether Harden starts with the ball,

1844
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: you know, coming down court and tries to iso, he's

1845
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: finishing in the paint, or he's pulling up for three,

1846
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 1: but he's creating for himself. Kind of the same thing

1847
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: with Joel Embiid. I mean, he's a he's a he's

1848
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: a He's a big man who finishes at the rim

1849
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: for the majority of his points. He has a jump shot,

1850
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,879
Speaker 1: but he's finishing in the paint. Like that's what scared

1851
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 1: you about Rockets Harden was the fact that he could

1852
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 1: score from any spot on the floor. But he liked

1853
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: to mix it up. He liked to isolate. He liked

1854
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,759
Speaker 1: to get into the paint, drive the lane, draw the foul,

1855
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 1: make the hard shot. Like he he was that type

1856
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: of player. He's a ball handler, and he was. He

1857
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 1: was a great dribble drive artist. Now he's not quite

1858
01:39:56,680 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 1: the same player he was. His his his skills have

1859
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: no doubt, unquestionably faded, and Joe El Embiid is the

1860
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: centerpiece of the game of that team now. But the

1861
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: game comes down to this, how can we share the

1862
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,759
Speaker 1: same real estate? In Golden State, it wasn't as important.

1863
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: But in in Philadelphia you have two massive stars coming

1864
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: together who want to occupy the same real estate. And

1865
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: I still think they're struggling to figure that out.

1866
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 3: But in the end, really what it comes down to

1867
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 3: is this, who is your go to guy at the

1868
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 3: end of the game. See, that's the thing when you

1869
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 3: have multiple stars on the court at the end of

1870
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 3: the game, who is going to be the guy that

1871
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 3: we want to take that shot and for? And give

1872
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,679
Speaker 3: it credit to Steve Kerr and Klay Thompson and Steph Curry.

1873
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 2: When Kevin Durant was there, he became the go to

1874
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 2: guy in those situations. They allowed him to do that.

1875
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, look at the mess was in Dallas this

1876
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 2: year with Doncic and Kyrie Irving. You could even the

1877
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 2: uncertain one Luca being such a ball dominant guy and

1878
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's got Kyrie Irving on the floor.

1879
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 2: He just didn't know what to do and it was

1880
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 2: a catastrophe.

1881
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 1: Well, what's amazing about this Nets super team that came

1882
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: together with Harden and Irving and Durant is now they've

1883
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: all separated off again, and I think all of them

1884
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: are struggling to a greater or lesser extent to create

1885
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 1: chemistry with their new teammates. Like Irving never felt like

1886
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 1: a fit in Dallas, Harden it felt like maybe if

1887
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 1: he was willing to relinquish some of what made him

1888
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 1: special over the course of his career and sort of

1889
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 1: subjugate himself a little bit to Joel Embiid and be

1890
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: in service of Joel Embiid and sort of be a

1891
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: role player, maybe it could have worked. But it hasn't.

1892
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: And Kevin Durant for the large part of his time

1893
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 1: in Phoenix has been injured, and now they're trying to

1894
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 1: all get on the same page against arguably the best

1895
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 1: team in the West, the Nuggets, during the postseason. It's

1896
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: just interesting that to your point, this NBA that we're in,

1897
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 1: the automatic assumption is put three powerhouses together, two or

1898
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 1: three powerhouses together, we'll go win an NBA championship. But

1899
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: as we know, as we've seen in the past, it

1900
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: takes so much more than that to win well.

1901
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 2: And then we saw an NBA Finals matchup a year

1902
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 2: ago between the Celtics and the Warriors with homegrown players

1903
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,520
Speaker 2: there were their nucleus was all from within the organization

1904
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 2: and we were talking about this last year. Is this

1905
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 2: going to be a new trend? Well, the answer was no.

1906
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, teams are desperate to make deals to try

1907
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 2: to add superstars to make a deep run in the playoffs.

1908
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out. We'll get into the

1909
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 2: Lakers and they looked awfully good in that blowout win

1910
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 2: against the Warriors. What are their chances of going all

1911
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,520
Speaker 2: the way? But first let's bring back finding.

1912
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:49,719
Speaker 3: Out what's trending right now. Watzi's back. By the way, Matsia,

1913
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 3: a buddy of mine, Ted Sobel, who's a long time

1914
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 3: broadcast legend here in La, did send me an article

1915
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 3: talking about the humane thing to do with these horses.

1916
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,639
Speaker 2: He is to put him down because of those bodies

1917
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:02,600
Speaker 2: and they're very delicate legs.

1918
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 3: If they can't stand it, it's the human thing, of course,

1919
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 3: it's the human thing.

1920
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 7: But in reality, we really don't need horse racing anymore.

1921
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 3: Oh you don't.

1922
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 7: It's it's an extravaganza where people want to dress up.

1923
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 3: You're exploiting yeah, animals, Yeah, for human entertainment. And it

1924
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 3: is seven passed away right for this past race.

1925
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 7: Yesterday, I was just telling the guys. I was like,

1926
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 7: good thing I wasn't working yesterday because I'm so against it.

1927
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have told you who won. I don't know

1928
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 7: who one. I wouldn't have updated anybody.

1929
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 2: Oh, we had the epidemic of fatalities at sant Anita right.

1930
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 3: Oh, it was like what was twenty thirty? It was crazy.

1931
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 3: It just everybody goes. I feel like because it's an.

1932
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 7: Extravaganza event where they get to dress up and they

1933
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 7: get to do all these things.

1934
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 3: Guess what you can still do that.

1935
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 7: Just let's not use these horses anymore because it might

1936
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 7: be the human thing.

1937
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,600
Speaker 3: And I hear that, but also it's how we have

1938
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 3: the Kentucky Derby without horses.

1939
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:56,600
Speaker 7: Well, figure something else out, because I just I'm like,

1940
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 7: I don't get.

1941
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,520
Speaker 3: It, like a vegan substitute.

1942
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 7: No, if you can some suit, just do something. People

1943
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 7: race each other and then dress up, go ahead.

1944
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 3: Race with with your costumes on. Yeah, would you ever

1945
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 3: wear one of those ghastly hats, hats women are forced

1946
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 3: to wear, apparently when they're at the derby.

1947
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 7: Remember I just said I barely wear my baseball caps.

1948
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I would not wear. Yes, yeah, I don't

1949
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 3: get it. I don't I understand laurel arrangement or something

1950
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 3: on your head.

1951
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 7: You know, it doesn't It does not call my name.

1952
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 7: You couldn't pay me to go to any.

1953
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 3: Race this way or put on that hand. No matter

1954
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 3: how beautiful a woman is, putting that on their head

1955
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 3: does not enhance their looks.

1956
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 7: No, no, I yeah, and again I I think people

1957
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 7: have like such a good time. So it's like I

1958
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 7: feel like there's a way where we can still do

1959
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 7: this and maybe not have so many horses die.

1960
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I got this text from Kirk Kennedy

1961
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: of the San Diego Union Tribune and who listens to

1962
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: our show. He says they'll definitely try to save horse

1963
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 1: when it breaks down, but he had been told that

1964
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 1: the horses can't keep up with the healing process. So

1965
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 1: even if this happened off a track. Yeah, Like if

1966
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: a horse breaks is like surgeries and things like that.

1967
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: They're so prone to infection and they have to stay

1968
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 1: on their feet that they actually can't handle the healing

1969
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 1: process so.

1970
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 2: That they can't lay in bed for two months to

1971
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 2: let a broken leg heel.

1972
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,280
Speaker 3: Doesn't that just sound awful? Like even knowing all that?

1973
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 3: But again, it doesn't have to happen. We are here

1974
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 3: exploiting animals for human entertains, right, And I just and

1975
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 3: a lot of people say, what's the big deal. It's

1976
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 3: an animal, They're expanded, and.

1977
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 7: I want to punch those people. I know, Listen, I

1978
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 7: do what am I supposed to be talking about?

1979
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 3: Sports? Okay?

1980
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 7: Well, guys, and Game four between the Celtics and the

1981
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 7: seventy six ers is.

1982
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 3: About to tip off.

1983
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 7: Boston does lead the series two to one, and then

1984
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 7: at eight pm Eastern Time will be the tip off

1985
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 7: between the Nuggets and the Suns. It's also their Game four.

1986
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 7: Denver leads that series two to one. We also have

1987
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 7: three Game three's in the NHL today for the Stanley

1988
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 7: Cup playoffs. The first one is between the Hurricanes and

1989
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 7: the Devils. That one is about to tip off three

1990
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 7: thirty pm. You not tip off is where the puck

1991
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 7: drops at three thirty pm Eastern time. Carolina does lead

1992
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 7: that series to zero. In Major League Baseball kept telling you, guys,

1993
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 7: the Orioles and the Braves, they're tied.

1994
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 3: They're still tied. Finally somebody won. And the pitch on

1995
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 3: the way. He is hitting the air and hitting well

1996
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 3: left center. Quick hitt on his horse, racing back, looks up,

1997
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:27,520
Speaker 3: hits the base of the row around third and scorings

1998
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 3: Hoey Alvey's Braves Worthy.

1999
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, Braves Radio Network on the call. It was Michael

2000
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 7: Harris the second with a walk off double as the

2001
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:37,919
Speaker 7: Braves beat the Orioles three to two in twelve innings.

2002
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 7: Going on right now, Marlin's up on the Cubs one zero,

2003
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 7: bottom of the fifth, The Cardinals, who have not been

2004
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 7: well this year, three to one against the Tigers top

2005
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 7: of the six The Royals up on the As two

2006
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 7: to one, top of the sixth as well.

2007
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 3: The Yankees were.

2008
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 7: Kind of handling the Rays, and then now the Rays

2009
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 7: are like, no, we're the Tampa Bay Rays.

2010
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:55,919
Speaker 3: We're the best team in baseball.

2011
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 7: Now they're beating New York seven to six, top of

2012
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 7: the seventh inning. Guardians still shutting out the Twins to

2013
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 7: zero bottom of the eighth. The Rockies and the Mets

2014
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 7: have been back and forth. Now Colorado is up ten

2015
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 7: to five against New York. They're about to start the

2016
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:11,719
Speaker 7: sixth inning. Blue Jays beating the Pirates one zero bottom

2017
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 7: of the second and the Phillies up on the Red

2018
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 7: Sox four to one bottom of the eighth inning.

2019
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 3: Back to you guys, all right, Monsie, thank you very much.

2020
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 2: So yesterday before the Laker Warriors game, I was going

2021
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 2: on this rant about why are we not taking the

2022
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 2: Warriors seriously to repeat his NBA champions They had just

2023
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 2: come off a game two blowout victory over the Lakers.

2024
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 2: They're healthy, you know, Steph and Clay had a phenomenal

2025
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 2: game two. Draymond had a near triple double in the game.

2026
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 2: Looney didn't start the game, but he came in. He's

2027
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 2: been a rebounding machine. And then he got Wiggins, he

2028
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 2: got pool On I'm like, why are we taking them

2029
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 2: seriously as a NBA possible repeat champion? And then they

2030
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,679
Speaker 2: get blown out yesterday by the Lakers. Now I'm back

2031
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 2: on the why don't we take the Lakers seriously? Let

2032
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 2: me have a healthy Lebron, a healthy ad, which we

2033
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 2: said was a prerequisite for them to have any chance

2034
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 2: to have a run in the playoffs, and then you

2035
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 2: have a D'Angel Russell that comes up with the kind

2036
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 2: of game that he had yesterday. I look at these

2037
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 2: two teams, very similar teams, yes, the Warriors and the Lakers,

2038
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 2: where if everything is working for them, I don't think

2039
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 2: there's a team out there that can beat them. Unfortunately,

2040
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 2: we don't know which team's going to show up on

2041
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:36,839
Speaker 2: either one of these teams from a night to night basis.

2042
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 1: Well, here's the problem with watching a single game and

2043
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,759
Speaker 1: thinking you got everything figured out in the NBA, because

2044
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 1: it is impossible for the Lakers to beat the Golden

2045
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: State Warriors as badly as they did in Game three

2046
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: and same same, And I'm talking about everybody healthy, everybody

2047
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 1: on the court together, everybody playing as hard as they

2048
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 1: and the same could be said about the Warriors in

2049
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: Game two. Yeah, there's no reason why the Lakers, everybody healthy,

2050
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: everybody trying as hard as they can, should ever be

2051
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 1: beaten that badly. Here's the reason why it happens. Because

2052
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: we're playing series. You don't see blowouts like that, or

2053
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 1: I should say, you rarely see blowouts like that in

2054
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: March madness. You rarely see blowouts like that in the

2055
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: college football semifinals. You rarely see you rarely see blowouts

2056
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 1: like that in the NFL playoffs, and the reason is

2057
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: single elimination. And that, to me, it sickens me that

2058
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 1: a team is willing to take their foot that far

2059
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 1: off the gas pedal in the postseason. But when you're

2060
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 1: playing seven game series, there comes a point in the

2061
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 1: fourth quarter where these teams start making business decisions where

2062
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: they start saying to themselves, Okay, we've lost this game,

2063
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,719
Speaker 1: so what do we care about more losing by thirty,

2064
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: losing by thirty five, losing by forty, which we've seen,

2065
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 1: or being fresh for the next or excuse me, and

2066
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: being fresh for the next game, or trying as hard

2067
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: as we can and maybe not winning the game but

2068
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: only getting beat by five, only getting beat by eight,

2069
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 1: only getting beat by ten. See, that's the problem with

2070
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: the NBA postseason for me is the Warriors in the Lakers.

2071
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: This this should be, this should feel like a much

2072
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 1: closer series than it actually is. But like you said,

2073
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 1: because on Game two, the difference between Game two and

2074
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: Game three was so stark Lakers dominance versus Golden State's

2075
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 1: dominance that it sort of feels like, oh gosh, you know,

2076
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 1: on any given night, I can make an argument for either.

2077
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,440
Speaker 1: The truth should be these two teams should be pridefully

2078
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 1: battling as hard as they can, and it should be

2079
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: hard to determine which team is better on any given night.

2080
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing to Mancha, I was thinking the

2081
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,560
Speaker 2: exact same thing. And by the way, it was in

2082
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, it was like late third quarter in

2083
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,719
Speaker 2: both those games where the team losing just sort of said,

2084
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, I've had it, but throwing the towel. What

2085
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 2: have we been talking about all season long with the

2086
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 2: NBA load management, Well, you're not gonna have guys take

2087
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 2: off games, although even we saw that with the Kawhi

2088
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 2: Leonard situation. Turnout he had a torminiscus, uh, you know,

2089
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 2: and be even even the Looney sickness that kept him

2090
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 2: from starting the other night for the Warriors. So in

2091
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 2: lieu of load management, where you just take off a

2092
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 2: game or two, can't do that in the postseason, but

2093
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:34,759
Speaker 2: you could take off.

2094
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 3: Half a game. Yeah yeah, And in a sense, that's

2095
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 3: what has happened to the team's All Star games. It

2096
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:46,480
Speaker 3: becomes a load management within a game where you basically

2097
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 3: just throw in the towel.

2098
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, and it sickens me, dude, Like, I mean,

2099
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 1: but that's.

2100
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 3: What we've seen the last two games of this Warriors.

2101
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 2: Lakers series, absolutely where the losing team just checked out

2102
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:00,799
Speaker 2: at the end of the third quarter and so we're done.

2103
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if like a Pistons bulls game between

2104
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 1: MJ back like or a Pacers bulls game in the

2105
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference playoffs between MJ and Reggie Miller, Like, can

2106
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: you imagine a team being okay with getting beat by

2107
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: thirty like? It just it's Look, the NBA has changed

2108
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: these players. They don't they once once the game is over,

2109
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 1: And like you said, Steve, it can occur in the

2110
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 1: middle of the third quarter, the game's over, they're they're

2111
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 1: they're moving like Lakers fans weren't moving on to Game

2112
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 1: three in the third quarter. They weren't, but the Laker

2113
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 1: players were. They were looking forward to Game three. And yeah,

2114
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,719
Speaker 1: you could say every look, you could say as nice

2115
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:53,760
Speaker 1: as things as you want about Klay Thompson, and I'm

2116
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 1: here for it. I think he's one of the best

2117
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 1: he's ever played in the NBA. But you know what

2118
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: if every single one of those three pointers were contested.

2119
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:05,639
Speaker 1: Does he hit eight of them? It's just the hustle

2120
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 1: had left the Lakers and the same with the Golden

2121
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: State Warriors in Game three. Look, I'll give flowers where

2122
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 1: flowers is due. I appreciate hard fought game sevens like

2123
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:21,160
Speaker 1: those are the best. Game six is when there's true desperation.

2124
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 1: You see it all the time in college basketball's postseason.

2125
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 1: You see it all the time in college football's postseason.

2126
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 1: You see it all the time in the NBA. You

2127
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 1: do not see it in the or excuse me, in

2128
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. You do not see it in the NBA.

2129
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:37,759
Speaker 1: And it's it's the fans are the people who pay.

2130
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 3: The worst hold on it.

2131
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 2: We did have a sixty five to seven championship game

2132
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 2: in college football.

2133
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 1: Ya, that is true. That is true.

2134
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 3: Sixty five.

2135
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 1: Seven that was That's not as bad as it can get.

2136
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 2: And apparently the Chargers are so impressed they took their

2137
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 2: entire receiving corps that of TCU. All right, coming up,

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Speaker 2: I know I have been inundated with people clamoring saying,

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01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:03,400
Speaker 2: when are you going to talk about the biggest sporting

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01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 2: event of today. We will right now coming up. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday Steve Harbin and Rich Arnberger Fox

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01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:17,720
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday Live from the tirag dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: Sam, why did you choose this song? Is it not obvious?

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01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 3: I understand, I'll kick get it.

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01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,799
Speaker 2: So we have been remiss in talking about the single

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01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 2: biggest sporting event today, and that, of course, is the

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01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 2: much anticipated XFL championship game between the DC Defenders and

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01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 2: the Arlington Renegades. By the way, the Arlington Renegades record

2149
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 2: this season was four and six, the DC Defenders coming

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01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 2: at nine to one. If you're wondering how four and

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01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 2: six team ends up in a championship game the XFL,

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01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 2: there are eight teams divided to two divisions of four.

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01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 2: The top two teams in each division play a game

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01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: to determine who ends up in the championship game, and

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01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 2: the Arlington Renegades upset the Houston Roughnecks to get to

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01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 2: this championship game against the DC Defenders.

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01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 3: All right, so all kidding aside.

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01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 2: Here, and by the way, Bob Stoops happens to be

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01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 2: the coach of this Arlington team. But this means that

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01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 2: a second full season of the reincarnated XFL has survived

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01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 2: at least through a championship game. And remember the Rock,

2162
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 2: Dwayne Johnson, Danny Garcia, she was part of this new

2163
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 2: takeover as far as running the XFL. While this championship

2164
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 2: games going on. Of course, the USFL season is already

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01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 2: well underway, and we go back to this idea of

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01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: spring football or non NFL football and its survival chances. What,

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01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 2: if anything, does the XFL surviving a second full season

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01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 2: mean for the future of this league and leagues like it.

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01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: Look, if you are going to if you're gonna try

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01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 1: to make an upstart league, the most important thing you

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01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 1: need is attention, something that's gonna grab people for a

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01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: reason different than than whatever is being supplied by these

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01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 1: other sports leagues, because it's such a competitive space, you know,

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Speaker 1: the NBA postseason. Even though we were just talking about

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01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 1: some of the obvious disadvantages the NBA postseason has had

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01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 1: this season and many seasons recently, with you know, star

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01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:44,839
Speaker 1: players taking off the end of these important postseason games,

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 1: it's it's still having one of its better postseasons. So like,

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01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 1: if if you're the XFL or if you're the USFL,

2180
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: how do you compete? You gotta have a rule change.

2181
01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 1: You've gotta got you gotta have a hook. You've got

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01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: to have some sort of gimmick that has people really excited.

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01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 1: I just don't think that the XFL or the USFL

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01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 1: has quite found it yet. Like the betting aspect of

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01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 1: it they you know, I mean, I'm sure there are

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01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 1: people who bet on these games, but that hasn't really

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01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 1: taken off. I mean, they they needed to, they needed

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01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 1: to do some some thinking about this before they launched

2189
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 1: this product and said, Okay, we're playing football, and obviously

2190
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 1: that's huge in the United States, But what's our hook.

2191
01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: It's like having a song without a chorus. Yeah, it

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01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 1: might be a great song. I mean, you may have

2193
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: great lyrics, you might have beautiful music, but but it

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01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: is a catchy. Like these these leagues, their biggest problem

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01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 1: is they're not catchy.

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01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 2: Steve, by the way, if this Renegades team, I actually

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01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 2: say this, This Arlington Renegades team, Yeah, making it to

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:58:00,120
Speaker 2: a championship game is arguably the worst team in an

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Speaker 2: professional sport ever to get to a championship game. In

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01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 2: their ten games this year, they scored ten touchdowns and

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Speaker 2: gave up twenty one touchdowns. Oh wow, so they scored

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01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 2: a total of ten touchdowns in a ten game.

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01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 3: Season, and they gave up twenty one.

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01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 2: And they gave up twenty one touchdowns, and yet they

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Speaker 2: find themselves in the league championship game.

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01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 1: They have a points differessial of negative seventy seven.

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01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 3: Actually it's negative forty eight.

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01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, because forty eight because of field goals.

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01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 2: They were good with field goals, but they weren't good

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01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 2: in actually getting the ball in the end zone. And

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01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 2: by the way, to give you an idea, the team

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01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 2: they're playing, the DC Defenders had thirty touchdowns this year.

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01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 2: In fact, there was only one other team in the

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Speaker 2: league that had under twenty five touchdowns. They had ten.

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01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 2: They were by far the worst in the league. And

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01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 2: yet here they are in the championship game. This might

2217
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 2: be Bob Stoop's best coaching job ever, all those years

2218
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma, and he's in the College Football Hall of Fame.

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01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't that seem demeaning for a guy like Bob Steups.

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01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: It's all takes his one shiny moment. Now, Bob Stoops,

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01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: he is, he's addicted.

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01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 3: I mean parent, I mean he made a lot of

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01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 3: money at Oklahoma.

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01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 2: He retired on his own when he wasn't forced out

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01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma.

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01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:27,880
Speaker 1: He just loves the sport and he can't quit it,

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01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 1: and uh, I get it. I mean, and you know

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01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 1: what at the other side of it is he may

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01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 1: launch or relaunch a couple of careers here coaching in

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01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 1: this league.

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01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:42,480
Speaker 3: So you know, that's that's it's just unbelievable.

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01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 2: So there you go, all you XFL fans, should I

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01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 2: even say plural, Maybe there's an XFL fan out there.

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01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 1: There.

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01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 2: It is Defenders and the Renegades battling for the XFL

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Speaker 2: championship and I'm sure that h and by the way,

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01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 2: they to me at the out So we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what kind of crowd we're

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02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 2: going to see out there, We're going to do that.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to them far more serious sport. That's

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02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 2: the NBA. What should we expect, Which teams ultimately are

2242
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 2: gonna make their way all the way to the conference finals.

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02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,839
Speaker 2: We'll break it all down. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 2: this game, Celtics have a one point lead against the Sixers.

2252
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:48,400
Speaker 2: Obviously Philadelphia in desperate need of a win on their

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02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 2: home court to even up this series.

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Speaker 1: You said they have one point lead games over.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, game's over, but you know, it's interesting.

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02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 2: We were talking earlier about the Lakers and the Warriors

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02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 2: may in these last couple of games when they were

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02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 2: down big in the third quarter and sort of preserving themselves. Really,

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02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:10,560
Speaker 2: this has been the case in most of these series.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've had some very competitive games that have

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02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:16,280
Speaker 2: gone down to the wire, some exciting finishes, but when

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02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 2: games have sort of gotten away from a team, they

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02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:22,760
Speaker 2: just check out. And this is again, this is following

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Speaker 2: the new way we watch the NBA with load management.

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Speaker 3: Well, load management.

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Speaker 2: Guys aren't going to take off games, but they may

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02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:36,080
Speaker 2: take off within a game, and I think coaches are

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Speaker 2: coaching that way. I when I start seeing a Darvin

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02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,200
Speaker 2: Ham putting his hands deepener in his pants, he loves

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02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 2: to he's one of those guys likes to keep his

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02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 2: hands in his pants when he's standing on the sidelines

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02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: They pockets. You can't say in his pants.

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Speaker 2: You have to say, okay, well, hands in his pockets,

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02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 2: in his pants, pockets with the thumbs hanging out.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, you know, you know the look right

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02:01:58,480 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 3: you sort of with the thumbs out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean if you if you weren't specific about pockets,

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02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 1: that everybody would be thinking.

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02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:09,880
Speaker 2: Al Bundy, Well, sometimes adjustments are needed, of course.

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02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I'm notorious for that.

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02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:13,040
Speaker 1: You know good.

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02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 3: I mean you've seen that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you are not shy.

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02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 3: I am not.

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Speaker 2: About that about adjusting. But anyway, so I mean, this

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02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 2: is where we're at now, hopefully. I mean, this is

2289
02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 2: obviously a must win for the Sixers. You go down

2290
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 2: three to one and head back to Boston. Things are

2291
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 2: not looking good for you. But yeah, I mean it's

2292
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 2: just this is the way the NBA is. Well, I

2293
02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 2: don't see any changes.

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02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 1: How about this is a change because this will not influence,

2295
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, how many more games are played. This has

2296
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:49,680
Speaker 1: no bearing on like the television contracts. This really doesn't

2297
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 1: affect the players outside of their effort their effort in

2298
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:56,440
Speaker 1: the postseason. Imagine if the NBA games when it got

2299
02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: to the postseason, if you outscored the team you're playing

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Speaker 1: against by more than twenty points, for every single point

2301
02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 1: beyond twenty points you scored counted against them in the

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Speaker 1: next game of the series. So like, if you got

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02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 1: beat by thirty three points, well you start out in

2304
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:20,600
Speaker 1: a thirteen point deficit the next game. So it just

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Speaker 1: it could.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, this is by the way, everyone, you remember

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02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 2: that All Star game thing where you had to get

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02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 2: to a magic number at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: Richard's a huge fan of this, by the way, Well,

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Speaker 1: I was, I like, well, here's the deal. I didn't

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Speaker 1: actually like how it ended up being being portrayed, and

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Speaker 1: like it was a little to.

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Speaker 2: Our guys were throwing up half court shots at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game to try to win the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, it didn't work.

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02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 3: It was ugly.

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Speaker 1: But what I liked about it was that they tried

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Speaker 1: something new. Here's this thought process here though, I.

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Speaker 3: Want to hear this again.

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Speaker 2: So your thought process is, what if you if you

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Speaker 2: lose a game by thirty like the Warriors just did

2322
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Speaker 2: to the Lakers. Yeah, then they have to work.

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Speaker 3: They get a.

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Speaker 1: They have a ten. So if you get beat by

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Speaker 1: more than twenty points, it's pretty simple when you think

2326
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Speaker 1: about it. If you get beat by more than twenty points,

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02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 1: for every point scored on you beyond twenty points, it

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Speaker 1: counts against you in the next game of the series.

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Speaker 2: Wow, now you think and again, I think your point

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Speaker 2: is valid. Like, if you've gotten this far into the season,

2331
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:27,320
Speaker 2: there's no way you should ever lose a game by

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02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 2: over twenty points.

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Speaker 1: That's my point.

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02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,480
Speaker 2: The only reason you're losing by more than twenty more

2335
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 2: time you're trying to lose by more than twenty, it's

2336
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Speaker 2: or or.

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02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 1: You've completely given up on this game. You're saying this

2338
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 1: game is completely inconsequential to that.

2339
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 2: Like you're saying that any any point over twenty points

2340
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 2: then is a deficit that you will incur in the

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Speaker 2: next game.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. I like it exactly So I like the for example,

2343
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:54,240
Speaker 1: the Memphis Grizzlies. If there was a next game they

2344
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:59,040
Speaker 1: get beat by forty, they start with a twenty point

2345
02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 1: deficit in the next game. You know what I'm saying,

2346
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 1: any any of these blowouts in the NBA, because the

2347
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:08,600
Speaker 1: reality is in today's NBA, you can cut a twenty

2348
02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 1: point lead and still win a game. I truly believe

2349
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Speaker 1: that with the way you know, you have sharpshooters from

2350
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 1: beyond the three point arc. If a game is twenty

2351
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:21,360
Speaker 1: points in favor of one team or another, I still

2352
02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 1: think there's a way to win that. Well.

2353
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:25,480
Speaker 2: We've seen games even in this postseason where teams have

2354
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 2: been down twenty five plus and the final margin is

2355
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:29,840
Speaker 2: twelve exactly.

2356
02:05:30,160 --> 02:05:33,080
Speaker 1: So that to me is now the line of d markets.

2357
02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:37,120
Speaker 1: So if a team gets outscored by twenty, for every

2358
02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 1: point beyond twenty points they get outscored by, that will

2359
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 1: count against them in the next game. So in Game four,

2360
02:05:44,080 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 1: the Warriors, how much are going to be? Okay, they're

2361
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:50,840
Speaker 1: down ten nothing, ten nothing. They're down ten nothing to

2362
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:55,520
Speaker 1: start Game four. You're welcome, try harder like that. To me,

2363
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:59,040
Speaker 1: that's a way you could get more spirited competition in

2364
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:02,440
Speaker 1: these NBA posts season. Look, is it a perfect fix? No?

2365
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 1: Are we still gonna see blowouts? Yeah? And is it

2366
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna make some of these series shorter? Because sometimes you know,

2367
02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:11,680
Speaker 1: when an eight seed runs into a one, they're just

2368
02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 1: that much more dominant, and it's not gonna be that

2369
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 1: much fun. But in a case like this Warriors Lakers series,

2370
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 1: where I think these teams are way more even than

2371
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 1: they looked in Game two in Game three, I think

2372
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:25,880
Speaker 1: it could help the series in a great in a

2373
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:26,440
Speaker 1: great way.

2374
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 3: I don't think it's terrible. I mean, obviously I'm not.

2375
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 2: You know, you're a fan of having a runner on

2376
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 2: second base and extra innings, you know, And I really

2377
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 2: like that. There's no explanation to that runner out there

2378
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:41,080
Speaker 2: other than the fact he just don't want to play

2379
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 2: a lot of extra innings.

2380
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:43,400
Speaker 1: It's just a ghost runner.

2381
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 3: That's absolute ghost runner.

2382
02:06:46,360 --> 02:06:48,919
Speaker 2: By the way, early on in this game, James Harden

2383
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:54,240
Speaker 2: looks engaged. Okay, In fact, it was interesting. If you're

2384
02:06:54,280 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 2: going to have Harden in isolation situation where he's you know,

2385
02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:03,120
Speaker 2: monopolizing the basketball, then clear a lame for him if

2386
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:06,080
Speaker 2: he so chooses to make a run at the basket,

2387
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 2: because otherwise you're just going to have him sitting at

2388
02:07:09,320 --> 02:07:12,320
Speaker 2: that three point land and that's a mixed bag. But

2389
02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 2: already seeing him getting into the free throw line a

2390
02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:17,200
Speaker 2: couple of times, he's got six points early and beat

2391
02:07:17,200 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 2: he's got seven points as well, I still look at

2392
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:24,800
Speaker 2: this Celtics team as the most complete team in the NBA,

2393
02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:27,200
Speaker 2: and the advantage they would have over a team like

2394
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 2: the Warriors or the Lakers is just age, you know.

2395
02:07:32,040 --> 02:07:35,720
Speaker 2: I mean Tatum and Smart and Brown, these are young guys.

2396
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 2: Brognan has been a huge pickup for them. Six Man

2397
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 2: of the Year. I still think the Celtics are the

2398
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:43,640
Speaker 2: team to beat. But then I saw that game against

2399
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,160
Speaker 2: Atlanta right where all of a sudden they lose on

2400
02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:49,320
Speaker 2: a buzzer beater, and I'm like, what's going on here?

2401
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:53,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I just and really, what this

2402
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 2: gets down to is something you talked about earlier.

2403
02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:00,960
Speaker 3: These playoff series are way too long. Yeah, They're just

2404
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:01,760
Speaker 3: way too long.

2405
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 2: Four out of seven in every single round. Your playoffs

2406
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 2: do not have to last two months.

2407
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 3: Two months.

2408
02:08:12,360 --> 02:08:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean potentially you're playing as many as twenty eight

2409
02:08:16,160 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 2: games if you play all four rounds and it goes

2410
02:08:19,640 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 2: seven games. Your regular seasons only eighty two games.

2411
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:25,160
Speaker 1: They should have made it. So, they should have made it.

2412
02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 3: Imagine if every series was two out of three.

2413
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 1: Oh dude, that I was about to say that. So

2414
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 1: the play in I think is fine. You know, the

2415
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:35,000
Speaker 1: way they have the play in if you want to

2416
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 1: have a playing tournament because you're trying to encourage some

2417
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:40,240
Speaker 1: of these teams to try a little bit harder down

2418
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:43,560
Speaker 1: the stretch of the season. Fine, Like I said, I'm

2419
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:46,920
Speaker 1: in favor of changes. I like ideas. It was an

2420
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 1: idea that actually has in certain cases, encourage more competitive

2421
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:53,440
Speaker 1: basketball down the stretch of the regular season. Does it

2422
02:08:53,480 --> 02:08:53,880
Speaker 1: fix it?

2423
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 6: No?

2424
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,839
Speaker 1: Does it help? Yeah? I could, I could make that argument.

2425
02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 1: It helps. Okay, so you do the plane well, then

2426
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:03,960
Speaker 1: outside of that, it should be best of three for

2427
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 1: the first two rounds of the postseason. I mean, I

2428
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 1: get it. Once you get to you know, the conference finals,

2429
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 1: you want it to be out of seven. Sure, but

2430
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't see a need for as many games as

2431
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:22,280
Speaker 1: are being played. The only reason for it is that

2432
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:25,360
Speaker 1: the NBA is aware that if they have big names

2433
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:30,240
Speaker 1: and large cities with teams and committed fan bases in

2434
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:34,560
Speaker 1: these postseasons, to have the New York fans engaged for

2435
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 1: seven games, should the Knicks go seven games is better

2436
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 1: than having three games potentially, right, you know? And that's it.

2437
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 1: It's all for the money and the advertising and the

2438
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 1: broadcast right sales. It doesn't make a more competitive league.

2439
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

2440
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 2: Indeed, this is a league, by the way, that has

2441
02:09:55,800 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 2: made it clear that coaching is not a Three of

2442
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:06,440
Speaker 2: the last four NBA coaches to win the NBA Championship

2443
02:10:07,520 --> 02:10:11,320
Speaker 2: have all been fired. On the other side, why even

2444
02:10:11,640 --> 02:10:15,680
Speaker 2: have coaches in the NFL In the NBA. Has the

2445
02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:19,360
Speaker 2: NBA come to the point where the coach is completely

2446
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:24,040
Speaker 2: irrelevant in a league dominated by players having choices that

2447
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,240
Speaker 2: other athletes and other sports wish they had.

2448
02:10:27,680 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 3: The future of NBA coaching Coming up next.

2449
02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:35,480
Speaker 2: Steve Harman and Rich Armager Fox Sports Sunday, We are

2450
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:40,280
Speaker 2: Live from the tai Iraq dot Com Studios. Philadelphia has

2451
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 2: now taken an eight point lead over the Celtics thirty

2452
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:44,880
Speaker 2: four to twenty six, ten minutes to go in the

2453
02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:49,680
Speaker 2: first half in that game. For the coaches in this game, beware.

2454
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, Nick Nurse led the Toronto Raptors to

2455
02:10:54,280 --> 02:10:55,640
Speaker 2: an NBA championship.

2456
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:56,960
Speaker 3: He was fired this year.

2457
02:10:57,840 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 2: The following year, Frank Vogel led the Lakers to an

2458
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:03,720
Speaker 2: NBA championship. He was fired before this season, And in

2459
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, Mike Budenholzer led Milwaukee to an NBA championship, and.

2460
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:10,440
Speaker 3: He just got fired as well. Three of the last

2461
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:16,800
Speaker 3: four NBA championship coaches are looking for employment. This is

2462
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 3: a league where players have the power.

2463
02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:22,560
Speaker 2: They have the power in terms of where they want

2464
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 2: to play, when they want to play, and that makes

2465
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:30,120
Speaker 2: it a challenge if you're a coach, because you're trying

2466
02:11:30,120 --> 02:11:31,920
Speaker 2: to figure out the best way to sort of hold

2467
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 2: the pieces together, or in the case of some of

2468
02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:37,400
Speaker 2: these coaches, when you know big decisions are made by

2469
02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 2: the organization to bring in a bunch of new players simultaneously,

2470
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,400
Speaker 2: and you got to make it all fit. Darvin Ham,

2471
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:46,640
Speaker 2: the Lakers done a good job, right. I mean, they

2472
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 2: were going nowhere and then they brought in a bunch

2473
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 2: of new players and he was told to make it work.

2474
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:53,600
Speaker 3: And it's working.

2475
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 2: They've had the best record since since the post the

2476
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 2: mid season of the All Star Game. So I mean,

2477
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:03,440
Speaker 2: some just can do that, others can't. But I'm just

2478
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:06,240
Speaker 2: trying to think in a league where the players have

2479
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:09,560
Speaker 2: as much clout as they do, more so in the

2480
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:13,440
Speaker 2: NBA than some of the other professional sports leagues, what

2481
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:17,360
Speaker 2: exactly is the role of a head coach these days

2482
02:12:17,640 --> 02:12:18,960
Speaker 2: in the NBA.

2483
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:24,080
Speaker 1: I think they are a figurehead and and a little

2484
02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:28,000
Speaker 1: bit more than that. But like so let's uh, let's

2485
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:30,640
Speaker 1: let's sort of just think about all the ways that

2486
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 1: they can impact the team. Many more of them are

2487
02:12:35,560 --> 02:12:40,560
Speaker 1: are positive than they are negative, actually, because I I look,

2488
02:12:40,600 --> 02:12:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear this from NBA players. I mean,

2489
02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 1: there are certain certain good coaches out there who understand

2490
02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 1: their personality, the personalities of their players, and they understand

2491
02:12:50,840 --> 02:12:55,440
Speaker 1: when to call timely timeouts, they know, they understand clock management,

2492
02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:59,840
Speaker 1: they can make good suggestions, and all of that leads

2493
02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 1: you to being considered a great coach these days. Everybody

2494
02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 1: who gets to the NBA level now has been well coached,

2495
02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:11,320
Speaker 1: whether it's at the AAU level before college, or college

2496
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:14,280
Speaker 1: during their time there, or in the NBA, I mean

2497
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:17,520
Speaker 1: the G League in certain cases before actually playing in

2498
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:20,680
Speaker 1: the league. All these guys are well coached. Every team

2499
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:23,640
Speaker 1: is running the same defenses, every team is running the

2500
02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:28,160
Speaker 1: same plays. I mean, there's very little variety there. It's

2501
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:31,200
Speaker 1: the coaches who can get the most out of their rosters,

2502
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:35,240
Speaker 1: who can control the personalities, who can keep these guys

2503
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:39,040
Speaker 1: associating with each other in a positive way as opposed

2504
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:42,720
Speaker 1: to having you know, intra team rivalries and things like

2505
02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 1: that that are going to detract from the overall goal,

2506
02:13:45,480 --> 02:13:48,640
Speaker 1: which is to win a championship. But it is a

2507
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:52,360
Speaker 1: player run league, So how do you exert that control

2508
02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 1: in that power without pissing off star players? The guys

2509
02:13:56,200 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 1: who are the best at that, like the zen Master,

2510
02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson during has run with the Bulls and then

2511
02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:05,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers, or Steve Kerr with this new dynasty the

2512
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:07,920
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, I shouldn't say nude, this dynasty over

2513
02:14:07,960 --> 02:14:11,440
Speaker 1: the past decade, the Golden State Warriors. Those type of

2514
02:14:11,440 --> 02:14:16,000
Speaker 1: coaches are considered the best because they're tremendous at controlling

2515
02:14:16,240 --> 02:14:20,920
Speaker 1: and operating personalities. While while you know, in possession of

2516
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:24,200
Speaker 1: true stars, I mean Greg Popovich did it for years

2517
02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:26,440
Speaker 1: in San Antonio was wildly successful.

2518
02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:28,360
Speaker 2: I'll give you another that. I'll give you another one,

2519
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:31,000
Speaker 2: and that is the Miami Heat. The pat Riley Eric

2520
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:35,400
Speaker 2: Spolstra regime has lasted a long time now, Yeah, and

2521
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:40,680
Speaker 2: those that understand and why Miami is successful and why

2522
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:43,200
Speaker 2: the Heat are where they are right now, and obviously

2523
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:45,960
Speaker 2: a lot of attention on Jimmy Butler, but they are

2524
02:14:46,200 --> 02:14:48,080
Speaker 2: they have a very set.

2525
02:14:47,840 --> 02:14:51,160
Speaker 3: Way of doing things. From pat Riley to Eric Spolstra

2526
02:14:51,400 --> 02:14:54,800
Speaker 3: and they don't waver from that. Obviously Pop has his way.

2527
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:57,840
Speaker 2: You mentioned Steve Kerr or the Warriors, which means it's

2528
02:14:57,880 --> 02:15:02,360
Speaker 2: still possible to you have that kind of control in

2529
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:06,560
Speaker 2: terms of the narrative for your team, and then either

2530
02:15:06,640 --> 02:15:07,320
Speaker 2: you fit or not.

2531
02:15:07,680 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 3: I mean, look what the Spurs did with Kawhi Leonard.

2532
02:15:10,400 --> 02:15:13,480
Speaker 2: If he wasn't gonna play their game, they got rid

2533
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:16,680
Speaker 2: of them. And they're obviously hoping this kid out of

2534
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:20,200
Speaker 2: France with the really long name that they get the

2535
02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:23,040
Speaker 2: number one overall pick, and there's all what wasn't bad

2536
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:23,920
Speaker 2: Nava or whatever?

2537
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:24,200
Speaker 1: Guy?

2538
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean, this kid really seven three is ridiculous. He

2539
02:15:26,800 --> 02:15:28,680
Speaker 2: can do a lot of things, and maybe they're hoping

2540
02:15:28,720 --> 02:15:30,680
Speaker 2: that that's going to be their new David Robinson, their

2541
02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 2: new Tim Duncan.

2542
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:37,000
Speaker 3: But I'm wondering if if anyone else beyond those franchises

2543
02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:40,160
Speaker 3: in the NBA can do it. I mean, once they're gone,

2544
02:15:40,680 --> 02:15:43,280
Speaker 3: will any other team be able to have that kind

2545
02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:46,360
Speaker 3: of control where we have a way of doing things.

2546
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 3: Because you played in the NFL with the Ultimate and

2547
02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:53,000
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, where he has complete control of an organization,

2548
02:15:53,200 --> 02:15:56,840
Speaker 3: every facet of that organization, and either you fit or

2549
02:15:56,880 --> 02:16:01,000
Speaker 3: you don't fit, and obviously with great deal success, But

2550
02:16:01,080 --> 02:16:04,480
Speaker 3: I don't know beyond what the Warriors still have to

2551
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,880
Speaker 3: some degree the spurs, certainly the heat right now, whether

2552
02:16:07,960 --> 02:16:11,080
Speaker 3: that can be duplicated moving forward in the NBA, it.

2553
02:16:11,080 --> 02:16:14,440
Speaker 1: Can, and what it takes is a special person, I

2554
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:17,560
Speaker 1: mean coaching. Like, think about the names that we just

2555
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:22,800
Speaker 1: mentioned in this little diatribe. You know, Steve Kerr, Greg Popovich.

2556
02:16:22,120 --> 02:16:24,480
Speaker 3: And pat Riley and pat.

2557
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:27,080
Speaker 1: Riley, I mean for years, Eric Spolstro has been in

2558
02:16:27,160 --> 02:16:32,240
Speaker 1: Miami forever and has had success. These guys, what they

2559
02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:36,120
Speaker 1: all have in common is to me, there's a a

2560
02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:44,040
Speaker 1: certain level of calmness, a certain level of gravity that

2561
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:49,160
Speaker 1: they create when they speak. There's a certain respect that

2562
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:54,840
Speaker 1: they command. Look, Steve Kerr isn't an intimidating character, you know,

2563
02:16:54,920 --> 02:16:58,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't describe him that way. Bill Belichick probably intimidates

2564
02:16:58,120 --> 02:17:01,119
Speaker 1: some people, especially the way it comports himself at the podium.

2565
02:17:01,640 --> 02:17:04,080
Speaker 1: I certainly felt that way about him as a coach

2566
02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:07,280
Speaker 1: when you were sitting in squad meetings because his intellect,

2567
02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:10,800
Speaker 1: his football intelligence is what was so intimidating, and the

2568
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:12,840
Speaker 1: fact that he had been so successful at it for

2569
02:17:12,879 --> 02:17:15,520
Speaker 1: as long as he had, but at some point he

2570
02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:17,760
Speaker 1: had to be just starting out too. He had to

2571
02:17:17,800 --> 02:17:20,320
Speaker 1: win over a room too. And how do you do that.

2572
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:25,760
Speaker 1: It's by applying a plan and being unwavering in your

2573
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 1: application of that plan, and then to show the players

2574
02:17:30,160 --> 02:17:33,520
Speaker 1: that it works, whether it be in winning or them

2575
02:17:33,800 --> 02:17:37,240
Speaker 1: actually being able to feel like they're improving together and

2576
02:17:37,400 --> 02:17:40,760
Speaker 1: on their way towards something like we don't know it yet,

2577
02:17:40,800 --> 02:17:44,879
Speaker 1: but for all we know, for example, Dan Campbell in

2578
02:17:45,160 --> 02:17:48,560
Speaker 1: Detroit with the Detroit Lions could be the next Bill Belichick.

2579
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:51,760
Speaker 1: Like he may be building a culture there right now

2580
02:17:51,800 --> 02:17:54,560
Speaker 1: that works for the next two decades. And maybe we're

2581
02:17:54,720 --> 02:17:59,040
Speaker 1: entering an era of dominance where the Detroit Lions are

2582
02:17:59,080 --> 02:18:00,560
Speaker 1: going to be good for a long time. We don't

2583
02:18:00,560 --> 02:18:03,920
Speaker 1: know yet because they're still building that culture. My point

2584
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:09,200
Speaker 1: is it's hard to see beyond where we're at, Like

2585
02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:11,720
Speaker 1: we're living in present times and right now it sort

2586
02:18:11,720 --> 02:18:13,200
Speaker 1: of feels like, well, who's going to be the next

2587
02:18:13,240 --> 02:18:16,320
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr? I can't tell you, but I can tell

2588
02:18:16,320 --> 02:18:18,720
Speaker 1: you this, there will be a next Steve Kerr because

2589
02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:22,000
Speaker 1: after Phil Jackson, people are like, well, who's going to

2590
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:25,280
Speaker 1: be the next Phil Jackson? It's difficult to determine because

2591
02:18:25,280 --> 02:18:27,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about one of the greatest who's ever done it.

2592
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:31,520
Speaker 1: But eventually there will be somebody who just gets it.

2593
02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:35,720
Speaker 1: They're intelligent enough, they have a beat on the personalities

2594
02:18:35,720 --> 02:18:39,920
Speaker 1: in their locker room, They understand how to communicate effectively.

2595
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:44,840
Speaker 1: They develop players, They hire a staff of talented coaches

2596
02:18:44,879 --> 02:18:47,840
Speaker 1: that can help them develop these players, and they make

2597
02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:51,000
Speaker 1: good decisions in crunch time that help their players have

2598
02:18:51,080 --> 02:18:55,240
Speaker 1: success when the moments matter the most. Again, Popovich had it,

2599
02:18:55,680 --> 02:18:59,280
Speaker 1: and Jackson had it, and Kerr clearly has it. We'll

2600
02:18:59,320 --> 02:19:02,840
Speaker 1: see what the NBA has to provide in this player

2601
02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:06,080
Speaker 1: roun league. But eventually there's going to be another coach

2602
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:06,800
Speaker 1: who breaks through.

2603
02:19:06,920 --> 02:19:07,840
Speaker 3: Well, let's make it clear.

2604
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:10,400
Speaker 2: Budenholzer and there was a lot made that his father

2605
02:19:10,720 --> 02:19:12,320
Speaker 2: brother recently passed away.

2606
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:15,000
Speaker 3: It was just inhumane. How you get fired after he's

2607
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:18,879
Speaker 3: going with grieving. Look at there's there's only one person

2608
02:19:18,879 --> 02:19:19,920
Speaker 3: that made this decision.

2609
02:19:19,959 --> 02:19:22,640
Speaker 2: That was Giannis. Giannis did not come to the defense

2610
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:28,280
Speaker 2: of Budenholzer. Good of And when you look at Giannis's contract,

2611
02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:31,560
Speaker 2: he's guaranteed contract for the next two years. And then

2612
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:34,280
Speaker 2: you're looking at a player option in twenty five twenty six,

2613
02:19:34,560 --> 02:19:36,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people were surprised when Giannis decided to

2614
02:19:36,879 --> 02:19:40,600
Speaker 2: stay the you know, with this last round of contracts

2615
02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:42,880
Speaker 2: to stay in Milwaukee, that he might explore because he

2616
02:19:42,920 --> 02:19:44,960
Speaker 2: hadn't even won a championship yet. But then all of

2617
02:19:44,959 --> 02:19:48,440
Speaker 2: a sudden, he wins a championship. Maybe changes the dynamic.

2618
02:19:48,600 --> 02:19:52,760
Speaker 2: And it will be interesting to see though, if whoever

2619
02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:55,400
Speaker 2: they bring in it doesn't produce a championship over the

2620
02:19:55,440 --> 02:19:58,400
Speaker 2: next couple of years with Giannis, whether he opts out

2621
02:19:58,400 --> 02:20:02,240
Speaker 2: of that fifty two million dollar player option, I think

2622
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:04,640
Speaker 2: a little hard, wouldn't it to leave fifty two million

2623
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:07,840
Speaker 2: on the table. I mean, it was just saying, here's

2624
02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:13,080
Speaker 2: fifty two million. Please, don't don't insult me.

2625
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean, but the idea of.

2626
02:20:15,440 --> 02:20:19,320
Speaker 3: Going, yeah, but but Bodenholzer's situation, Look, they were trending

2627
02:20:19,400 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 3: in the wrong direction. I wasn't surprised, No.

2628
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:25,240
Speaker 2: Especially the way that series with Miami went down where

2629
02:20:25,240 --> 02:20:28,879
Speaker 2: they blew those double digit leads and he wasn't calling timeouts.

2630
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean I was I was like waiting for Budenholzer

2631
02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:34,119
Speaker 2: to be fired after that.

2632
02:20:34,400 --> 02:20:36,880
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Belichick and I'll tell you one

2633
02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:40,160
Speaker 1: of the most important things I learned from Bill Belichick

2634
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:44,640
Speaker 1: while I was in New England, Like when everybody talks

2635
02:20:44,640 --> 02:20:47,080
Speaker 1: about the moments that win or lose you a game,

2636
02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:51,680
Speaker 1: like there are so many people who will defend Hey,

2637
02:20:52,360 --> 02:20:56,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't just that moment that there were so many

2638
02:20:56,120 --> 02:20:58,840
Speaker 1: other moments where the team could have been better. What

2639
02:20:58,959 --> 02:21:02,000
Speaker 1: about this play? What about that play? What about this

2640
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:04,400
Speaker 1: time out called? What about that time out called? And

2641
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:08,400
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, Bill Belichick, the New England Patriots organization,

2642
02:21:08,520 --> 02:21:12,640
Speaker 1: they cared about every play, but they especially cared about

2643
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:16,800
Speaker 1: the plays. And everybody knows what the plays are. It's

2644
02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:21,080
Speaker 1: that final catch on a crucial third down. It's the

2645
02:21:21,120 --> 02:21:24,240
Speaker 1: wide open receiver in the end zone who catches the

2646
02:21:24,240 --> 02:21:27,280
Speaker 1: ball instead of dropping it. It's the forty two yard

2647
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:29,960
Speaker 1: field goal that's going to put the game into overtime

2648
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:33,440
Speaker 1: at the end of regulation. It's the big run that

2649
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:38,320
Speaker 1: helps you solidify a narrow lead, get a first down,

2650
02:21:38,760 --> 02:21:42,800
Speaker 1: and then put the team away during four minute offense. Like,

2651
02:21:42,879 --> 02:21:46,680
Speaker 1: it's those plays that everybody remembers for good reason. It's

2652
02:21:46,720 --> 02:21:51,960
Speaker 1: because those are clutch plays. Clutch plays being clutch, it's

2653
02:21:52,040 --> 02:21:55,720
Speaker 1: something that you have to practice It's something that has

2654
02:21:55,760 --> 02:22:00,040
Speaker 1: to be I mean, drilled into the muscle memory of

2655
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:03,240
Speaker 1: the athletes on your field. You have to practice it

2656
02:22:03,320 --> 02:22:06,039
Speaker 1: at practice. You have to turn on the clock at

2657
02:22:06,120 --> 02:22:12,520
Speaker 1: practice and practice buzzer beaters, game saving inbound plays. You

2658
02:22:12,680 --> 02:22:15,600
Speaker 1: have to practice fouling. When is it the right time

2659
02:22:15,640 --> 02:22:17,480
Speaker 1: to foul, win is it the wrong time to foul.

2660
02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:21,800
Speaker 1: You have to create scenarios where everybody on the court

2661
02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:25,280
Speaker 1: understands what the situation is and when a timeout needs

2662
02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:30,840
Speaker 1: to be called. Budenholzer during that elimination game made some

2663
02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:35,640
Speaker 1: unquestionably poor coaching choices. The fact that he didn't call

2664
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:39,359
Speaker 1: the time out after the Jimmy Butler layup was ridiculous.

2665
02:22:39,400 --> 02:22:40,880
Speaker 3: I would have fired him during the game.

2666
02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:45,000
Speaker 1: It's one of those things. Man, you gotta be clutch,

2667
02:22:45,440 --> 02:22:48,800
Speaker 1: and if you're not, you have to understand the consequences

2668
02:22:48,840 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 1: of not being clutched, because they're gonna get rid of

2669
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:53,520
Speaker 1: players who, if they get the ball in their hand,

2670
02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:56,120
Speaker 1: can't hit the game winning three, can't hit the game

2671
02:22:56,160 --> 02:22:58,920
Speaker 1: tying shot, can't make the layup when they're supposed to,

2672
02:22:59,240 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 1: aren't smart to call the time out on court when

2673
02:23:01,640 --> 02:23:04,000
Speaker 1: they need to when they get possession back and it's

2674
02:23:04,040 --> 02:23:06,080
Speaker 1: an important part of the game. End a half, end

2675
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:09,080
Speaker 1: a game, you'll they'll get rid of players for not

2676
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:11,680
Speaker 1: being clutched. So the same thing at coaching, and I

2677
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:17,480
Speaker 1: understand I sympathize for the head coach, you know, getting fired,

2678
02:23:17,720 --> 02:23:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, for coach Bud if he's listening to us today,

2679
02:23:20,680 --> 02:23:23,800
Speaker 1: My heart breaks for you because losing a family member

2680
02:23:24,040 --> 02:23:26,320
Speaker 1: the same week that you lose your job and lose

2681
02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:30,280
Speaker 1: the postseason bid that you had as a favorite to

2682
02:23:30,320 --> 02:23:34,520
Speaker 1: win the championship number one overall. See, that's heartbreaking. But

2683
02:23:34,600 --> 02:23:37,879
Speaker 1: at the same token, he's a coach. He understands what

2684
02:23:37,959 --> 02:23:40,560
Speaker 1: it means to be a coach. And if you're not clutched,

2685
02:23:40,560 --> 02:23:42,199
Speaker 1: they'll find somebody else who is.

2686
02:23:42,120 --> 02:23:45,080
Speaker 3: And he'll get another opportunity. That's a that's a guarantee.

2687
02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:48,199
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's trending right now as

2688
02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:51,520
Speaker 2: we welcome back Moncie. And of course, not every NBA

2689
02:23:51,760 --> 02:23:55,959
Speaker 2: organization has the kind of stability that your beloved Clippers have.

2690
02:23:56,440 --> 02:23:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, they maintain again they're un

2691
02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:04,640
Speaker 2: blemish record of never winning a championship and that they

2692
02:24:04,720 --> 02:24:06,240
Speaker 2: have not deterred from.

2693
02:24:06,040 --> 02:24:09,160
Speaker 3: What apparently is their long term goal of how many

2694
02:24:09,240 --> 02:24:12,480
Speaker 3: years can we be in existence right and never win

2695
02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:15,960
Speaker 3: an NBA chance? I hope, I hope we ruined that soon.

2696
02:24:16,280 --> 02:24:20,920
Speaker 2: By the way, the original Clippers were the Buffalo Braves.

2697
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:24,680
Speaker 2: They were part of a three team expansion in nineteen seventy.

2698
02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:29,120
Speaker 2: The other two franchises were the Portland Trailblazers and the

2699
02:24:29,160 --> 02:24:35,040
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers, both of which have won a single championship

2700
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:36,000
Speaker 2: in their history.

2701
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:39,560
Speaker 3: Yes, so the day will come, I believe. I mean,

2702
02:24:39,760 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 3: thank you for bringing all that up, and I just

2703
02:24:41,720 --> 02:24:45,440
Speaker 3: want to put some perspective of it. We show that

2704
02:24:45,600 --> 02:24:50,400
Speaker 3: level of consistency of never winning ever for over fifty years.

2705
02:24:50,400 --> 02:24:52,480
Speaker 3: The Potterys know that I don't know what I did

2706
02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:54,560
Speaker 3: to mister Harvion today. I'm not sure.

2707
02:24:54,879 --> 02:24:57,560
Speaker 1: I know he's over here p and inurios.

2708
02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:01,720
Speaker 3: I'm a man a routine as people know. I mean

2709
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:05,879
Speaker 3: every Sunday, Manzi sees me in the same shirt, jeans,

2710
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:08,960
Speaker 3: shoes and cap. So it's true. But I mean I

2711
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:11,280
Speaker 3: didn't know I was gonna have to talk about it.

2712
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:14,480
Speaker 1: As you know, picking on you at one thirty is

2713
02:25:14,600 --> 02:25:19,439
Speaker 1: something that I traditionally have done. I will take saying.

2714
02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:21,680
Speaker 3: That there's a lot to be said about stability. There

2715
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:24,920
Speaker 3: is thank you for that, Steve, thank you. Let's move

2716
02:25:24,959 --> 02:25:28,000
Speaker 3: on to the game's currently going on. You know what

2717
02:25:28,200 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 3: is trending and what people are talking about, and it's

2718
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:34,400
Speaker 3: James Harden who has come to life. In the second.

2719
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:37,520
Speaker 7: Quarter, he has eighteen points for the seventy six ers.

2720
02:25:37,560 --> 02:25:38,760
Speaker 3: He's actually leading.

2721
02:25:38,440 --> 02:25:41,760
Speaker 7: All the scores, and Philly is beating Boston forty seven

2722
02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:43,920
Speaker 7: to thirty three with less than five minutes to go

2723
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:47,360
Speaker 7: in the second quarter. James Harden did something really awesome

2724
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:50,160
Speaker 7: for this game. If you remember the Michigan State shooting,

2725
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:53,240
Speaker 7: there was a survivor, John Howe, who was a student

2726
02:25:53,280 --> 02:25:56,560
Speaker 7: from China. He is at this game and when that happened,

2727
02:25:58,280 --> 02:26:00,800
Speaker 7: James Harden, you know, facetimes in the hospital and told

2728
02:26:00,840 --> 02:26:01,760
Speaker 7: them I'm going to bring.

2729
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:03,600
Speaker 3: You to a game. So he's at this game, which

2730
02:26:03,640 --> 02:26:04,680
Speaker 3: is really awesome.

2731
02:26:04,760 --> 02:26:07,959
Speaker 7: Game four and again Philly up forty seven to thirty three,

2732
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:10,120
Speaker 7: four minutes to go in the second quarter. But on

2733
02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:12,800
Speaker 7: the ice, it's Game three between the Hurricanes and the Devils,

2734
02:26:12,800 --> 02:26:16,600
Speaker 7: and New Jersey is all over Carolina. Threes zero is

2735
02:26:16,600 --> 02:26:19,840
Speaker 7: the score after the first period. Carolina leads this series

2736
02:26:19,879 --> 02:26:22,440
Speaker 7: two to one. In Major League Baseball, it is still

2737
02:26:22,480 --> 02:26:24,720
Speaker 7: a tie game between the Yankees and the Rays.

2738
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:26,160
Speaker 3: Bottom of the ninth inning.

2739
02:26:26,320 --> 02:26:29,080
Speaker 7: They're playing in Tampa, tied at seven apiece.

2740
02:26:29,320 --> 02:26:31,160
Speaker 3: The Royals beating the A's five to one. Top of

2741
02:26:31,160 --> 02:26:33,840
Speaker 3: the ninth inning. The Cardinals might finally win one.

2742
02:26:34,040 --> 02:26:35,720
Speaker 7: They had lost eight in a row, but they're beating

2743
02:26:35,720 --> 02:26:37,840
Speaker 7: the Tigers ten to six. They're about to start the

2744
02:26:37,840 --> 02:26:40,080
Speaker 7: eighth inning. The Marlins and the Cubs are tied at

2745
02:26:40,080 --> 02:26:42,760
Speaker 7: two a piece. Bottom of the ninth inning. Plane in Chicago,

2746
02:26:43,000 --> 02:26:45,920
Speaker 7: Brewers beating the Giants to zero. This is early bottom

2747
02:26:45,959 --> 02:26:48,360
Speaker 7: of the second inning, and the Angels have scored first

2748
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:51,119
Speaker 7: against the Rangers three zero, top of the second inning.

2749
02:26:51,280 --> 02:26:53,600
Speaker 7: White Sox up on the Reds two to one. Top

2750
02:26:53,640 --> 02:26:57,080
Speaker 7: of the second inning as well. The Rockies scored seven

2751
02:26:57,240 --> 02:27:00,240
Speaker 7: runs in the seventh inning alone, and they're beating the

2752
02:27:00,280 --> 02:27:02,800
Speaker 7: Mets in New York twelve to six. They're about to

2753
02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:05,080
Speaker 7: start the bottom of the ninth inning, and the Blue

2754
02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:07,640
Speaker 7: Jay is still shutting out the Pirates five zero, top

2755
02:27:07,720 --> 02:27:10,920
Speaker 7: of the sixth inning. It's been fun, guys, aside from

2756
02:27:10,920 --> 02:27:11,840
Speaker 7: this Clipper attack.

2757
02:27:12,320 --> 02:27:15,640
Speaker 3: I was fun. I was celebrating the Clippers. Yeah, yeah,

2758
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:20,120
Speaker 3: that's what that was. They've got a formula of the yeah,

2759
02:27:20,320 --> 02:27:25,360
Speaker 3: not be broken. I don't like you, thank you, back

2760
02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:25,720
Speaker 3: to you.

2761
02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:28,600
Speaker 2: Guys, and they name any sports fan that would not

2762
02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:31,240
Speaker 2: dream of having an owner that is amongst the ten

2763
02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:32,720
Speaker 2: wealthiest people on the planet.

2764
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:34,800
Speaker 7: That's not what we're talking about right now. We're not

2765
02:27:34,840 --> 02:27:39,160
Speaker 7: talking about wealthy owners. We're talking about bad consist You know.

2766
02:27:39,120 --> 02:27:41,400
Speaker 3: What's going to happen. They're eventually going to move into

2767
02:27:41,400 --> 02:27:42,279
Speaker 3: that a new arena.

2768
02:27:42,360 --> 02:27:45,080
Speaker 2: Not this artcoming season, but the twenty four to twenty

2769
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:47,720
Speaker 2: five season, and that's going to be the year they're

2770
02:27:47,720 --> 02:27:48,640
Speaker 2: going to be crown NBHL.

2771
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:50,960
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, that's a lot of pressure. Yes, so put

2772
02:27:50,959 --> 02:27:51,400
Speaker 3: it out there.

2773
02:27:51,440 --> 02:27:51,840
Speaker 1: I like it.

2774
02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Ye, put it out there. Still with Paul George, half

2775
02:27:55,760 --> 02:27:57,800
Speaker 3: of the regular say health.

2776
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:03,959
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably less than a half.

2777
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:07,640
Speaker 3: Again, again, what did I do? Nobody chose violence.

2778
02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:12,600
Speaker 2: This is self induced because you chose to be a

2779
02:28:12,640 --> 02:28:15,600
Speaker 2: Clippers fan. See, we didn't force you to choose the

2780
02:28:15,640 --> 02:28:19,480
Speaker 2: Clippers as your team. You did that knowing everything there

2781
02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:21,520
Speaker 2: is to know about the Clippers history.

2782
02:28:21,640 --> 02:28:25,200
Speaker 7: My defense, I was forced into it by family.

2783
02:28:25,360 --> 02:28:28,359
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's a free I did.

2784
02:28:28,160 --> 02:28:30,840
Speaker 7: Not I didn't grow up knowing there were options. I

2785
02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:33,120
Speaker 7: just grew up being told I was a Clipper fan.

2786
02:28:33,560 --> 02:28:36,640
Speaker 3: Everybody in your families are Clippers. We're all Clipper fans.

2787
02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:40,440
Speaker 3: Come on everything. I hear your mom's a closet Lakers fan,

2788
02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:41,280
Speaker 3: isn't that true?

2789
02:28:41,440 --> 02:28:44,560
Speaker 7: No, no, no, But my mom does love Lebron James

2790
02:28:45,040 --> 02:28:46,400
Speaker 7: and she hates Steph Curry.

2791
02:28:47,240 --> 02:28:49,840
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm starting with her on that one.

2792
02:28:50,120 --> 02:28:52,240
Speaker 7: She hates Steph Curry, she can't stand them, but she

2793
02:28:52,360 --> 02:28:53,080
Speaker 7: loves Lebron.

2794
02:28:53,360 --> 02:28:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not a Warriors fan. I admire

2795
02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:56,560
Speaker 2: what they've done.

2796
02:28:56,840 --> 02:28:58,920
Speaker 7: I like Curry. I'm a fan of Curry. Oh and

2797
02:28:58,959 --> 02:29:00,119
Speaker 7: she loves Chris Paul more than.

2798
02:29:00,440 --> 02:29:01,320
Speaker 3: I still haven't got one.

2799
02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:03,320
Speaker 2: Steph Curry when he first hit the scene when they

2800
02:29:03,320 --> 02:29:06,320
Speaker 2: won that first championship in twenty fifteen, kept parating his

2801
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:07,280
Speaker 2: daughter out.

2802
02:29:07,480 --> 02:29:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I still does.

2803
02:29:09,959 --> 02:29:11,240
Speaker 1: That was that was it?

2804
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:13,360
Speaker 3: I know That's what annoyed you.

2805
02:29:13,760 --> 02:29:19,320
Speaker 2: And Riches heard me called Steve Kerr smug many times. Yeah,

2806
02:29:18,959 --> 02:29:22,360
Speaker 2: like he he literally defines the word smug.

2807
02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely.

2808
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:25,120
Speaker 7: I'm not a fan of the Warriors and I'm not

2809
02:29:25,160 --> 02:29:27,760
Speaker 7: a fan of Kerr, but I do like Curry.

2810
02:29:27,959 --> 02:29:30,080
Speaker 3: I think he changed the game and I like him. Yeah,

2811
02:29:30,160 --> 02:29:33,360
Speaker 3: did he change it for the better? I think so? Really,

2812
02:29:33,440 --> 02:29:33,960
Speaker 3: I think so.

2813
02:29:34,640 --> 02:29:37,199
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you enjoy everybody standing at the three

2814
02:29:37,240 --> 02:29:38,840
Speaker 2: point land, including big guys.

2815
02:29:38,959 --> 02:29:40,520
Speaker 3: You know when I was in high school, that's what

2816
02:29:40,560 --> 02:29:42,320
Speaker 3: I was doing. I was just taking threes.

2817
02:29:42,600 --> 02:29:47,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Foxy. Also, let's just be honest with these Nobody

2818
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:48,040
Speaker 1: can see you right now.

2819
02:29:48,280 --> 02:29:50,520
Speaker 3: You're like four foot eleven, right.

2820
02:29:50,480 --> 02:29:56,160
Speaker 7: So, I mean that's you know what I'm saying, exactly exactly,

2821
02:29:56,320 --> 02:29:57,160
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.

2822
02:29:57,879 --> 02:29:59,879
Speaker 3: I would just hide in one of the corners and

2823
02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:01,440
Speaker 3: wait for the ball, and I would just shoot it.

2824
02:30:01,480 --> 02:30:02,840
Speaker 1: And today's a dynamite.

2825
02:30:02,959 --> 02:30:03,320
Speaker 3: Exactly.

2826
02:30:03,440 --> 02:30:06,320
Speaker 2: There you have it all right, Well, Mansey, have a

2827
02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:07,840
Speaker 2: tremendous rest of your day.

2828
02:30:08,040 --> 02:30:10,879
Speaker 3: You two guys. By the way, Rich, I've got news

2829
02:30:10,920 --> 02:30:11,280
Speaker 3: for you.

2830
02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:15,000
Speaker 2: I have found out where you are going to be

2831
02:30:16,120 --> 02:30:19,920
Speaker 2: in either late March or early April of next year.

2832
02:30:20,400 --> 02:30:23,600
Speaker 3: Okay, you're going to be in South Korea.

2833
02:30:24,200 --> 02:30:27,199
Speaker 1: I will. I knew it. I knew you're.

2834
02:30:27,040 --> 02:30:31,200
Speaker 2: Going to be in South Korea because the Podreys and

2835
02:30:31,280 --> 02:30:34,560
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are going to open their twenty twenty four

2836
02:30:34,879 --> 02:30:38,680
Speaker 2: season with a pair of games in South Korea.

2837
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:41,959
Speaker 1: Wow, I am there.

2838
02:30:42,120 --> 02:30:48,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you this baseball is America's pastime, correct,

2839
02:30:48,959 --> 02:30:52,200
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and the Podres, like this is a big

2840
02:30:52,320 --> 02:30:56,720
Speaker 2: rivalry now Major League Baseball. What benefit is there for

2841
02:30:56,920 --> 02:31:03,320
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball to open up season with a hot

2842
02:31:03,440 --> 02:31:08,600
Speaker 2: rivalry and have those games played in South Korea?

2843
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:14,160
Speaker 1: I can explain this easily. Okay, So think about the

2844
02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:18,039
Speaker 1: proximity of the teams that played in this most recent

2845
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Mexico City International Series. It was the San Francisco Giants

2846
02:31:23,520 --> 02:31:27,119
Speaker 1: and actually the San Diego Padres. So they go down

2847
02:31:27,160 --> 02:31:31,240
Speaker 1: south of the border in Mexico City and they absolutely

2848
02:31:31,959 --> 02:31:35,760
Speaker 1: sell out Halu Stadium down there in Mexico City, I

2849
02:31:35,800 --> 02:31:40,879
Speaker 1: mean filled to the rafters, tremendous amount of excitement, and

2850
02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:44,760
Speaker 1: it was, at least for Game one, a high scoring affair.

2851
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:47,959
Speaker 1: There were I think twenty plus runs scored between the

2852
02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:52,640
Speaker 1: two teams. And when you have opportunities like that geographically

2853
02:31:52,680 --> 02:31:56,920
Speaker 1: close to areas, you can expand your fan base or

2854
02:31:56,959 --> 02:31:59,120
Speaker 1: you can appease a fan base, because clearly they're a

2855
02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:02,160
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball fans down in Mexico. Now, the reason

2856
02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:04,440
Speaker 1: why it makes sense for the Dodgers and the Padres

2857
02:32:04,480 --> 02:32:07,439
Speaker 1: to go out to Korea is because of the influence

2858
02:32:07,480 --> 02:32:11,000
Speaker 1: that the KBO has had in Korea. I mean, Latin

2859
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:13,840
Speaker 1: America isn't the only feeder to the MLB.

2860
02:32:14,280 --> 02:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Why open this season there, I under stam Havy. Maybe

2861
02:32:17,440 --> 02:32:19,520
Speaker 2: in an in season games a long year. What's the

2862
02:32:19,879 --> 02:32:21,840
Speaker 2: you know, just like the recent series between the g

2863
02:32:22,040 --> 02:32:24,520
Speaker 2: You're saying, why opening day opening day?

2864
02:32:25,360 --> 02:32:31,119
Speaker 1: Well, because as we know, opening day doesn't really matter.

2865
02:32:31,320 --> 02:32:32,480
Speaker 3: It does in baseball.

2866
02:32:32,720 --> 02:32:35,840
Speaker 2: Well, heay is a little significant day in baseball at the

2867
02:32:35,879 --> 02:32:36,840
Speaker 2: All Star Game.

2868
02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:39,840
Speaker 1: Yes, but opening Day doesn't really happen until your team

2869
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:43,560
Speaker 1: has opening Day at their ballpark. So like many like

2870
02:32:43,879 --> 02:32:46,560
Speaker 1: many teams, in fact, half of the teams in Major

2871
02:32:46,600 --> 02:32:50,439
Speaker 1: League Baseball on the official opening day of Major League Baseball,

2872
02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:52,840
Speaker 1: half of the teams are on the road, and they are.

2873
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:55,760
Speaker 2: Also for time. I just got a text from Isaac

2874
02:32:55,800 --> 02:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Loan Crime. I love he brings this up. He goes,

2875
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:02,920
Speaker 2: it'll be the first game for show he Otani with

2876
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:06,720
Speaker 2: his new team, either there or the Dodgers.

2877
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, and there's that. Well, now, Show hee Otani is

2878
02:33:09,760 --> 02:33:13,640
Speaker 1: from Japan. For still, it gives Japanese fans an opportunity,

2879
02:33:13,640 --> 02:33:18,000
Speaker 1: which is a close flight from Tokyo to uh Seoul,

2880
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:21,200
Speaker 1: South Korea. I promise you uh to get over and

2881
02:33:21,240 --> 02:33:23,720
Speaker 1: see show. Hey Otani, should he be playing with the

2882
02:33:23,760 --> 02:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Dodgers or the Padres?

2883
02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:25,480
Speaker 6: So?

2884
02:33:25,640 --> 02:33:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean there, look and and Hasun Kim is a

2885
02:33:29,600 --> 02:33:34,080
Speaker 1: Korean born KBO star who came over to the Padres.

2886
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:35,880
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of interest.

2887
02:33:35,879 --> 02:33:40,520
Speaker 2: And as a wildly popular player in San Diego, absolutely.

2888
02:33:39,959 --> 02:33:42,360
Speaker 1: No, So look there's I guess my point is this,

2889
02:33:42,600 --> 02:33:47,240
Speaker 1: like while the NBA obviously is expanding its borders and

2890
02:33:47,400 --> 02:33:52,280
Speaker 1: has for years, you know, taken to having European born

2891
02:33:52,320 --> 02:33:55,440
Speaker 1: players in their league and foreign born players yao ming

2892
02:33:56,400 --> 02:34:00,400
Speaker 1: in their league. They they they've adopted the idea of

2893
02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:03,600
Speaker 1: it's a world game now. Same thing with the NFL.

2894
02:34:03,720 --> 02:34:06,560
Speaker 1: They got back onto the bandwagon of putting the game

2895
02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:10,560
Speaker 1: out internationally after NFL Europe ceased to exist. You know,

2896
02:34:10,600 --> 02:34:13,400
Speaker 1: they're playing games in Germany again this upcoming season. The

2897
02:34:13,400 --> 02:34:16,440
Speaker 1: Patriots will play in Germany this season. So baseball is

2898
02:34:16,480 --> 02:34:19,360
Speaker 1: just following suit. They've been playing games in London, like

2899
02:34:19,400 --> 02:34:24,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned, Mexico City. You're gonna see Major League Baseball

2900
02:34:24,840 --> 02:34:29,400
Speaker 1: do this routinely. I promise you. Especially with West Coast

2901
02:34:29,440 --> 02:34:31,080
Speaker 1: teams going out to Asiam.

2902
02:34:30,800 --> 02:34:36,240
Speaker 2: Playing all right a week from today, potentially there could

2903
02:34:36,240 --> 02:34:40,480
Speaker 2: be three game sevens in these conference semi finals in

2904
02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:46,240
Speaker 2: the NBA. Which series is most likely to get to

2905
02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:49,680
Speaker 2: a game seven? We'll tell you this is Fox Sports Sunday.

2906
02:34:51,280 --> 02:34:53,200
Speaker 4: Sex is Paul a minute four to going beat is

2907
02:34:53,280 --> 02:34:56,800
Speaker 4: posting smart, smart, all up on Joel hopping under by

2908
02:34:56,800 --> 02:34:57,520
Speaker 4: a beat off.

2909
02:34:57,400 --> 02:34:59,640
Speaker 6: The glass up and then he's smart with a foul

2910
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:01,080
Speaker 6: to beat leads over.

2911
02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:06,080
Speaker 2: That is sixers a radio network right there as they

2912
02:35:06,080 --> 02:35:09,160
Speaker 2: are leading the Celtics fifty nine to fifty at the half.

2913
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2919
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Speaker 2: We were just looking at we're just looking at caps

2920
02:35:37,480 --> 02:35:42,080
Speaker 2: because of BO are brilliant producers wearing a Mariner's cap.

2921
02:35:42,480 --> 02:35:43,480
Speaker 3: Is that a Mariners cap?

2922
02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:47,199
Speaker 2: Yes, yes it is, and we are sampling the Seattle

2923
02:35:47,440 --> 02:35:50,840
Speaker 2: Pilot's cap. A lot of people do not know that

2924
02:35:50,879 --> 02:35:54,640
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers first season they were the Seattle Pilots.

2925
02:35:54,800 --> 02:35:55,800
Speaker 1: I did not know that.

2926
02:35:55,920 --> 02:35:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, the there was expansion in baseball four teams in

2927
02:35:58,879 --> 02:36:03,600
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine and Diego Padres, the Montreal Expos are

2928
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:07,520
Speaker 2: now the Washingon Nationals, the Kansas City Royals, and the

2929
02:36:07,640 --> 02:36:11,600
Speaker 2: Seattle Pilots who after one season moved to Milwaukee to

2930
02:36:11,680 --> 02:36:14,080
Speaker 2: become the Brewers after they bought by a guy named

2931
02:36:14,080 --> 02:36:19,400
Speaker 2: Bud Selig and sort of cool caps back in the day. Moncey,

2932
02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:24,560
Speaker 2: by the way, tremendous job. And one thing I love

2933
02:36:24,600 --> 02:36:27,400
Speaker 2: about Moncey is that she's not shy to speak her

2934
02:36:27,440 --> 02:36:29,280
Speaker 2: mind on any subject matter.

2935
02:36:29,640 --> 02:36:30,600
Speaker 3: Fair, that's fair.

2936
02:36:30,760 --> 02:36:33,359
Speaker 9: Moncey was just doing some scores just out of the blue.

2937
02:36:33,520 --> 02:36:35,400
Speaker 9: I put her mic up and there's scores being read.

2938
02:36:35,600 --> 02:36:39,080
Speaker 3: That's okay. Yeah.

2939
02:36:40,120 --> 02:36:42,640
Speaker 2: Actually, with our new system here in the new studio,

2940
02:36:42,840 --> 02:36:46,320
Speaker 2: still we have to understand that if you push a

2941
02:36:46,360 --> 02:36:51,200
Speaker 2: certain button, it may actually lead to some level of embarrassment. Yes,

2942
02:36:51,240 --> 02:36:55,879
Speaker 2: of course, if there's the wrong button, somebody could be

2943
02:36:55,920 --> 02:36:58,720
Speaker 2: on the air that isn't thinking they're on the air.

2944
02:36:58,920 --> 02:37:00,000
Speaker 3: I've made several mistakes.

2945
02:37:00,280 --> 02:37:03,720
Speaker 1: I want to just say that I thought the at

2946
02:37:03,760 --> 02:37:07,960
Speaker 1: first the ejector seats were silly, but now I understand

2947
02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:13,240
Speaker 1: them because I can't wait to employ this on Monci.

2948
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:17,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that very very good, Thank you. Okay, let's talk

2949
02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:20,240
Speaker 2: about potential game sevens. By the way, we could be

2950
02:37:20,360 --> 02:37:24,880
Speaker 2: sitting here a week from today with three game sevens.

2951
02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:29,120
Speaker 2: The Phoenix Denver series would have a Game seven a

2952
02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:32,000
Speaker 2: week from today, The Sixers Celtics would have a Game

2953
02:37:32,040 --> 02:37:36,160
Speaker 2: seven a week from today, and the Lakers Warriors would

2954
02:37:36,200 --> 02:37:38,279
Speaker 2: have a Game seven a week from today. The Miami

2955
02:37:38,400 --> 02:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Knicks series, if it goes to game seven, would be

2956
02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:43,959
Speaker 2: on Monday, the following day, on the fifteenth. So if

2957
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm looking at these four series right now, all of

2958
02:37:47,560 --> 02:37:50,920
Speaker 2: them two to one series after three games, Rich, Yes,

2959
02:37:51,959 --> 02:37:53,959
Speaker 2: which series do you believe.

2960
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:57,720
Speaker 3: Is most likely to get to a Game seven?

2961
02:37:58,040 --> 02:38:01,879
Speaker 1: I mean, is this even a question? I mean, come on,

2962
02:38:02,480 --> 02:38:06,879
Speaker 1: we know which one. It's Warriors Lakers.

2963
02:38:06,920 --> 02:38:07,200
Speaker 3: Wow.

2964
02:38:07,560 --> 02:38:11,240
Speaker 1: Now again, I'm not one of these people who it's like, oh,

2965
02:38:11,360 --> 02:38:14,840
Speaker 1: the NBA script writers are busy again, and I'm not

2966
02:38:15,040 --> 02:38:19,119
Speaker 1: saying that, but let's put it this way. If there

2967
02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:23,240
Speaker 1: is a game of more interest from the standpoint of

2968
02:38:23,360 --> 02:38:26,959
Speaker 1: the size of the markets who are involved, and also

2969
02:38:27,280 --> 02:38:33,320
Speaker 1: the the avidness of the fan bases to go seven games,

2970
02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:38,199
Speaker 1: which which legs would be the most beneficial for them, Well.

2971
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:42,119
Speaker 2: The most beneficial you lead out the biggest draw leron

2972
02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:46,720
Speaker 2: versus stet these are still there. I'm not saying they're

2973
02:38:46,720 --> 02:38:48,880
Speaker 2: the two best players in the league, but they're the

2974
02:38:48,879 --> 02:38:50,600
Speaker 2: two biggest stars in the league.

2975
02:38:50,680 --> 02:38:54,000
Speaker 1: There's no question. So Steve, like again, I'm not saying

2976
02:38:54,040 --> 02:38:58,039
Speaker 1: that officials are in the pocket of the league.

2977
02:38:57,720 --> 02:39:00,959
Speaker 3: To make sure that's certainly why not say say the.

2978
02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:03,480
Speaker 10: I'm just gonna say, I'm just gonna say, if there's

2979
02:39:03,520 --> 02:39:08,680
Speaker 10: a way to finally tune the officiating in these games

2980
02:39:08,720 --> 02:39:12,119
Speaker 10: so that yeah, we have seven games, I think that's

2981
02:39:12,160 --> 02:39:14,120
Speaker 10: the game where I could or the series where I could.

2982
02:39:14,160 --> 02:39:16,320
Speaker 2: Well, I would say probably the second then would be

2983
02:39:16,360 --> 02:39:17,240
Speaker 2: Boston Philly.

2984
02:39:17,400 --> 02:39:20,840
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, those are two enormous fan bases.

2985
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:25,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Denver Phoenix. Yeah, let's get that one over

2986
02:39:25,120 --> 02:39:26,240
Speaker 3: as quickly as possible.

2987
02:39:27,000 --> 02:39:29,120
Speaker 2: And the Knicks Miami. I love how they've been trying

2988
02:39:29,160 --> 02:39:31,560
Speaker 2: to play up the rivalry between the Knicks and the Heat,

2989
02:39:31,840 --> 02:39:34,320
Speaker 2: and they keep showing Jeff Van Gunny grabbing the leg,

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Speaker 2: you know, oh right, yeah, yeah, like that's that doesn't

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Speaker 2: make a rivalry when you have Jeff Fan Gunny grabbing

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Speaker 2: a leg, that just saysn't.

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Speaker 1: Quite do it.

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Speaker 2: I would agree with you, so, uh yeah, any of that.

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Speaker 2: So that would be the schedule.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll have at least one game seven, but

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be bold enough to say there will

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Speaker 2: be at least two game sevens. We come back on

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Speaker 2: next Sunday. All right, So right now, phill if you

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Speaker 2: leading this game against Boston. Later, we got Denver in Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: It's a very busy time of the year, which is

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Speaker 2: a good excuse for you to stay right where you are.

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Speaker 3: Keep it right here. This is Fox Sports Radio.