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Speaker 1: The rule of the week this week for us is

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Speaker 1: plus ten points if a contestant is seen working out

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Speaker 1: or exercising in this episode. This is the Benn and

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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast with IR Radio. All Right,

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Speaker 1: guess hello and welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. This

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Speaker 1: is the recap of week of episode. Man, what episode

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Speaker 1: are we on? I guess? I always second episode out

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Speaker 1: of the week, the second episode of the Tuesday praise

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Speaker 1: you for keeping track the Tuesday, UM September seventh episode.

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Speaker 1: And the voice that you hear on the other end

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Speaker 1: is not Ben Higgins. You guys, have you been following along?

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Speaker 1: He actually had a c L surgery today. Filling in

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Speaker 1: for him is Derek Paith. Oh my god, he's the

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Speaker 1: perfect guest host today. What's up? Ash I prefer that

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Speaker 1: actually from people. I feel like that really they have

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Speaker 1: like a sense of comfort with me. There we go,

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Speaker 1: I gotta feel comfortable today. That was my poor Ben

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Speaker 1: Higgins impression. Then I won't do it again. I'll just

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Speaker 1: be me Oh my god, because he does call me

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Speaker 1: ash y so funny. Okay, well, I think that you're

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Speaker 1: the perfect person for this for of a specific reason.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any idea why I have been triggered

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Speaker 1: many time was watching so um. I mean I say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, mostly jokingly, but like, first of all, this

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Speaker 1: has been an amazing season. I'm just gonna say that

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Speaker 1: generally I haven't talked on like any podcast or whatever

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Speaker 1: over some little things that have happened before as like yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but I mean, this season has had the most

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Speaker 1: like prearranged kind of things, which you know, we don't

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Speaker 1: know if or what happened in my season, which was

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Speaker 1: just last season, I guess, but I feel like some

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Speaker 1: been like, oh my god, I feel everyone's pain that

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Speaker 1: it's on the like receiving end of that. You know,

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Speaker 1: do you remember I always bring this up, like back

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Speaker 1: during season two, Joe Bailey and Samantha Stephen never spoke

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Speaker 1: that was at the beginning, and now we have people

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Speaker 1: going on that are in full blown relationships. Yes, you're right, though,

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Speaker 1: I want I think that you're the perfect guest because

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Speaker 1: you were kind of the victim of somebody who was

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Speaker 1: who had a relationship back at home. Yes, and that

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Speaker 1: was Demi. Uh, it's really no secret that Demi was

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Speaker 1: very much in a relationship with um Christian with Christian

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Speaker 1: the guy that she led on sort of in waiting

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Speaker 1: for her to arrive. Yeah. Um, so I gotta hand

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Speaker 1: what Demi did emboldened all these people because exactly what

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Speaker 1: it's his America's dumbest criminals. Like the Paradise version, there's

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Speaker 1: feeling a lot of irony watching this episode, seeing Demi

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Speaker 1: like so many engagements are end like end that are

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Speaker 1: is so good to have you on here. Hi you guys,

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Speaker 1: actually do have some surfboards there, and he like, yeah,

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00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: act it before the lifeguards who were there could notice,

429
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: and went out and was just kind of like paddling

430
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: around and the undertow suddenly took him out about I'm

431
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: not kidding, like probably seventy yards out there, like past. Yeah,

432
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: and he was not sure how to handle that, so

433
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: that they did have to go and like pull pull

434
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: him in and save him. Um. So, I mean I

435
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: think that that would have been the first unseen Bachelor

436
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 1: attempting to surf. Uh So, I'm sure it's gonna be

437
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: that was unseen. I'm sure that it's gonna be very

438
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: fun and uh, you know, a good reminder to see

439
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: some Bachelor people on actually attempt with some with some

440
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: good professional teachers who know what they're doing. Yeah, um, Aaron,

441
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: do you see that at all? Like is there any

442
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: danger scare moments? Yeah? Well, you know, it's really interesting.

443
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: So I interviewed the CEO of the World Surf League

444
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: last night before episode five, Eric Logan, and he brought

445
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: up a really interesting point. The show is served at

446
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: the Surf Ranch and it's not on the north shore

447
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: of Oahu, where let's say, you know, a leg of

448
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: the Championship tour is on pipeline, as he had mentioned,

449
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: is incredibly dangerous for the surfers who haven't surved before.

450
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: So exactly what you're saying ash that the undertow it's

451
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: just dangerous and maybe Bachelor and Paradise doesn't want to

452
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: know come out and be rescued by some lifeguard with

453
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: a booie. Um, maybe he was just he or she

454
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: just doesn't want to face that reality because it really

455
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: is challenging. And that's why we ended up having the

456
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: show at the surf ranch because it's a little bit safer.

457
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: It's waves on demand and you know, it's a little bit.

458
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: I think the competition it levels the playing field, so

459
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: everybody sort of gets the exact same wave as opposed to,

460
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: like you said, in the ocean where it is actually

461
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: really dangerous. It's like the perfect mash up, the perfect

462
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: mash up for whoever DMG that Yeah, yes, all right,

463
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: Well guys, thank you so much Aaron for coming on

464
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: and you guys out there. It's after Bachelor in Paradise tonight.

465
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Three more episodes left with the Ultimate Surfer on ABC.

466
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Thank you Aaron, by you guys, thank you for thank

467
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: you so much. Alright, take it easy, see later to bye.

468
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: Al Right, so let's we'll get into the Chris. The

469
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Chris drama is what dominates this entire episode. Um. But

470
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: at first we have well we have our new host

471
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: walk into the room, and that is Titus Burgess. Is

472
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: am I was saying that right, because he sent multiple

473
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: times it sounded like he was saying tight ass well

474
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: he was singing everything as well. He would probably appreciate that.

475
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, is he trying to make

476
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: a pun on his name and it's a tight ass

477
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: party he did? Yeah, tight as part? Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

478
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: I think that is a pun. Alright, so he kind

479
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: of announces that there's gonna be this v I P party. Yeah,

480
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: and the people who are invited are Becca Aaron, Noah,

481
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: Abigail Kenny, Jena, Chris, Deandra Riley, James Thomas, and Demi.

482
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: And at first, I'm like, this is lame invite list,

483
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: because like, these people are either coupled up or they're

484
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: so strongly coupled up with somebody back at home and

485
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen. But we were wrong because Chris

486
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: obviously it was dating somebody at home name yeah, um

487
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: we had oh Aleah was there to Elena. That was

488
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: very confusing. That was very confusing Alia and Elena, and

489
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: it's almost as if they didn't even announce Elena. She

490
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: really went under the radar. There was Kenna who also

491
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: showed up, and so did Chelsea. And my best guess

492
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: is that Aliah wait, no, Elena, Elena and Nickenna both

493
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: aren't even going to make further appearances. I think they're

494
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: just I think they just went to the two. I

495
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think it's just the two. Well,

496
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: this is like, so, when uh, when JPJ decided to

497
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: make a I forgot all about this this. Yeah, you

498
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: were there. I think I was talking to you guys

499
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: when that started. Actually yeah, but all that so that

500
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: was like a similar thing. You know, they had like

501
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of people come and it wasn't like explicitly said,

502
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: but then a few people did come back to like

503
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: Paradise because of that, and they made it like more explicit.

504
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: I think, you know as well as I do, Like

505
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: I would be interested to know, first of all, what

506
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: kind of music and stuff. It's it was weird to

507
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: see them at this party like dancing and whatever, but

508
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: there's like not the energy that usually is there from

509
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: going out because it's just like this small group of people.

510
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: I can feel that being really uncomfortable. But it is

511
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: awesome to leave when you've been stuck there for like

512
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: two weeks. So I think people like they know that

513
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: the second that people leave and they introduce new people,

514
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: it's like a recipe for people to just forget about

515
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: whoever was at the beach. It's very much like the

516
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: wedding when you guys went to Crystal and Chris's wedding,

517
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: because you're getting a different environments that already gives you

518
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: some sort of like different mentality, mentality and then yeah,

519
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: a party atmosphere. Uh so, guys, we see that Chris

520
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Chris SE's Elena, and all of a sudden everything is

521
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: done with him in Jena and it is the weirdest

522
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: thing ever because he literally makes that with her in

523
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: what seems to be like five minutes after she walks in,

524
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: with just a total disregard to Jasnia complete gosh, I

525
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: felt so bad when she saw that. But but then

526
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: the other thing is they were not hiding anything. How

527
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: Like that was so much lack of even just social awareness.

528
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Who does that just in front of we already have

529
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: to like remove some barriers of course because we're you're

530
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: on the show, and like yeah, when you kiss somebody,

531
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: there's camera and stuff, but like that much lack of

532
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: awareness where everybody else is sitting there watching you, it

533
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: seems incredibly weird disregard, like just like so emotionally reckless.

534
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: Recoss is right on both their parts too, not not

535
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: just like Chris. But what did we expect though? And

536
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: what I'm sorry, what did you sendy expect from Mr

537
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: smoke Bro? Yeah, I guess you know. And also I'm

538
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: sorry to throw this out there. I feel like this

539
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: is like something that people are probably gonna forget pretty

540
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: quickly or have forgotten. But just said, you kind of

541
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: did this to Ivan just now, like there is she's

542
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: coming in hot. But I think like there's a lot

543
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: of I'm the victim going on because then later on

544
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: Tammy kind of does the same thing. But these people

545
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: kind of have and and what oh and what's her name?

546
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: U Mari kind of dug her own grave as well.

547
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of people here who have just

548
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: like not been thinking about two steps ahead. Yeah, the

549
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: karma kind of comes back around for these people. Yeah,

550
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: like I do think if you want to call a karma,

551
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, like you can't help your where your heart

552
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: leads you. But well, all right, Chris, that sounds like

553
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: something Chris wrote to say on this episode, though he

554
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: kept talking about that my bad, you can do it

555
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: was tact and like and you know, respect and all that,

556
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: which just Senya did it with more respect back when

557
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: she did it to Ivan. However, at the end of

558
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: the day, it's not that much different. Yeah, I'm I'm

559
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: giving Gesennia did this much more tactually than Chris. But

560
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: but I still I gotta I gotta say that we

561
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: need some people looking in the mirror here a little bit. Okay, good,

562
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: good job to putting that out. Back at the beach,

563
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: we see like Tammy's freaking out because she's like, what

564
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: if Thomas meets somebody there? Yeah, and everybody has a

565
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: general sense of anxiety, understandably, especially when then just Senda

566
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: came back though and said yeah, then, like Marissa was

567
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: breaking down to they all, nobody was feeling very secure, know,

568
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: and I can just see in Tammy's face when she

569
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: saw the Senda come down shot, you know, because just

570
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: Send He's like, there's like you know, he's there's a girl,

571
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: and there's a girl. And then like you could tell,

572
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: Tammy's like, what girl? What girls? Tell me everything? I'm

573
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: supposed to care about you right now. I know you're

574
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: really upset, but like I'm really really worried about myself. Yeah, exactly. Okay,

575
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: So the next day we have that Mari and Kenny

576
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: conversation where they kind of say to each other, let's

577
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: just revamp this. It's back to the two of us.

578
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: We really like, I was really scared because I like

579
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: you so much. I've never had feelings like this before.

580
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: They both say that they've never felt these feelings before,

581
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: and I mean, do you buy it again? I don't

582
00:34:49,600 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: feel it? Yes, No, I was first of all, after

583
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: what I just said about like that, a lot of

584
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: people Doug your own grave. What show did Mari think

585
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: she was going on? Because her timing before and I know,

586
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: like you guys have talked about this already for her,

587
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: because why would you time. I don't know if I

588
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: want to be with you when you aren't capable of

589
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: like seeing anybody new, when nobody already asked you on

590
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: a date. It's like nobody has shown any interest and

591
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: you haven't shown any interests, So why are you ending

592
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: this now? Well? I was confused with that with Abigail

593
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: and Noah too, I'm like, it's totally it's going great.

594
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: Why are you ending this when it's why ending this now?

595
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: And then again they rekindled Yeah, and yeah, they definitely did.

596
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't see much of them, so I

597
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: guess I don't think they're like yeah, yeah, I don't.

598
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: I feel like they aren't either. Um. I mean Kenny,

599
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: I feel like clearly loves to be in the He's

600
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: like one of those guys that doesn't cause the drama,

601
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: but he clearly loves to be involved in it. I mean,

602
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: it's got to be reason and I'm sorry, but he's

603
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: like forty and not been in a relationship and a

604
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: boy band manager. Being involved in a lot of drama

605
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: seems like, let's write that on his card as well. Um,

606
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: like he definitely most guys wouldn't be like, oh, you're

607
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: not into me, let me go sleep with another girl

608
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: who's living in the same room as you. You know,

609
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: what a decision to make. So I mean they're they're reconciling.

610
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't think this goes anywhere, but good for him

611
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: for maybe choosing someone who's like he cares about a

612
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: little bit more. I don't know. Do you think that

613
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: Mari has any idea that Demi and him had sex? Oh?

614
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's right. She hasn't talked about that.

615
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: That could be a bomb. That could be a bomb

616
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen until after the show is over and

617
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: he has to tell her. Oh, that's like the reunion

618
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: show kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think

619
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: Mari is talking like someone who knows that. I think

620
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: you're right. I know. Okay, Well, then we get to

621
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: the point where Demi basically says, how are you breaking

622
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: up with me? She's so mean, she's so naughty, She's

623
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: the meanest ever, and you had sex with me. Demi

624
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: has an ego problem. We know that, we do. I mean,

625
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: it's her entire reaction to everything this season has been

626
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: because of a bruise ego. I feel she's just astonished

627
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: at the fact that, like, maybe she's not somebody's top choice. Yeah,

628
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: as she is definitely not used to hear no, Like

629
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: we can we can see that. Um. I couldn't say, now,

630
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: all right, I'm not better than any of this, but um,

631
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: she went in hard. I'm so like, this was surprising

632
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: me that she went in so hard on Mari instead

633
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: of just like being more real with Kenny. Like she

634
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: definitely completely made sure that there was no chance with Kenny,

635
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like going to that route

636
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: is um, I don't. I don't know that he even

637
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: was sure yet, but I think she like settled it

638
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: that he was for him at least, that he was

639
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: making the right decision. She's like, I'm so much fun.

640
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: How can you know what I feel? With me? It

641
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: was just funny. I'm like, Demi you're you have so

642
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: many sides to you, and sometimes I just sometimes I'm like,

643
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: this is a band, and I talked about this yesterday,

644
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I feel like you present yourself a

645
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: such a tough cookie that you shouldn't even let this

646
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: bother you, And I can't believe you're letting a guy

647
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: like Kenny get to Yeah. I think, um, I think

648
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: Demi is one of those people. And this is why

649
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: I like she can seem so chaotic on the show,

650
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: because like I do think we like we try to

651
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: put everybody in a box, and let's be frank, like,

652
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: most of most of us fit in a box. But

653
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: I think she's one of the people that can't be

654
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: like put in a box, and so that's why she

655
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: confuses a lot of people. When you're watching, you don't

656
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: think that she she'd come across as desperate, but there

657
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: were multiple times where she comes across as desperate because

658
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: she was like, let's go to the boom boom room

659
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, cringe, cringe, cringe.

660
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: And then the next morning she was like, I think

661
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: she gets a boom bom room again. I'm like, oh

662
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, and then and then she cries about

663
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: feeling being so desperate because she realized it's how desperate

664
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: she was. Well, she's silf aware in those moments, and

665
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: I like that. That's fun, that's true. Well, so then

666
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta actually comes in, right, Can we talk about Atlanta

667
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: and the fact that she doesn't seem like she has

668
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: a brain up there. I don't again, who have these

669
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: people watched this show? She seems to not have any

670
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: clue like what is happening or what's going on? One

671
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: she seems like she's a I see personality to the

672
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: fact that they ever thought that this plan was going

673
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: to work in their favor is just demented. Like I mean,

674
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, I'm gonna say this. Uh,

675
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: there's a very clear like I think we've seen this

676
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: before or two. There's a very clear distinction between like

677
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: people who maybe left that night one or night too,

678
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: who didn't really ever get their chance on like the

679
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: Bachelor or Bachelor atte and that they kind of they

680
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: put this bravado out there in their own lives like

681
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: oh I was on the show, and then they come

682
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: back to Paradise and it's so clear like they just

683
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: totally screwed up because they're coming in with that same

684
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: kind of like cockiness almost and all of these other

685
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: people have been there too, and it's like, bro, why

686
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: do you think, why are you talking like your special?

687
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: We also were on the show, and we do you

688
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it's almost as if they're

689
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: like a little bit embarrassed and then they come in

690
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: to try and like put this out there. I think

691
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: both of them came in with that almost like overconfident,

692
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: especially thinking that they could get this over on the

693
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: producers who know everything. It's almost like it was like

694
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: a reaction of being insecure though, so like you're saying

695
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: it's like over cocky, it's being you know, cocky, but

696
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: at the same time, I think it's out of security. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

697
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: it's a response. I think you're right. I think you're right.

698
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: So okay, it just seems odd. They never admitted unlike

699
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: Brendan and Piper, we don't have any sound bites of

700
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: them being like, can you believe how many follows I

701
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: got after the s Weekly article and like all that.

702
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: We don't have proof that they actually got together prior

703
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: to the show for followers. But they also don't really

704
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: deny it at all right, Yeah, they're not really like

705
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: that's not especially when Joe and Riley are like going

706
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: in hard on Chris later, they're not beating around the

707
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah they're not. He's not saying no, I didn't do that,

708
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: because I think that he knows. I think I think

709
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: at that point he's like, oh and and Riley even

710
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: brought up the d M S. I think at that

711
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: point he's like, oh, no, who has what you know

712
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: what I mean, like you see it on his face.

713
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: And I really think that's why he's like, I do

714
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: need to leave, like I need to cut my losses

715
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: because they got me, they caught me. Well, just Sena

716
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: makes a point to say that Alah Lena Alia Alia

717
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: was there when they when Chris and her initially met

718
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: in San Diego, So it sounds like there was like

719
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: this meet up in San Diego where just Sena met Chris,

720
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and then the only other girl there that was swarting

721
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: with him as well was Elena or Leia sorry guys.

722
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: And then but Jena felt like she had the upper

723
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: hand on that. She said that I was seeming desperate,

724
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: so I guess it was a turn of events for

725
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: for her to see that obviously he didn't think that

726
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: she was being desperate, and it looks as if they

727
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: had hung out multiple times since that group hang out.

728
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: I didn't look this up. Do you know where just

729
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Senny lives? No? But I know that she was at

730
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: that San Diego hangout. Yeah, I know that too. I

731
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: want to know who lives awhere now. But I because

732
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a big part that could be

733
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: a big part of like did Chris and Elenna, Like

734
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: were they hanging out and nobody really knew because they

735
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: just lived close And we're doing it under like raps

736
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: kind of Um, do you know what I'm saying? Like

737
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: in his just Sendy living somewhere else, like I think

738
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: somewhere else. I don't think Sandiego. Yeah no, no, Um,

739
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's a lot of conjecture here. We're

740
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: like guessing at a lot of things. But but I

741
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: do think I do think that Chris and Atlanta when

742
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: they're as we watched their date, it was like one

743
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: of the cringest things you could ever see because I

744
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: do think that they were like saying what they thought

745
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: bachelor people should say. Yeah, it was so cringe e.

746
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: The whole kiss position was also cringe e. She just

747
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: seemed like she had nothing to say. It made me

748
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: feel so awkward. And just to backtrack to the party again,

749
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: if they did have this grand scheme and they planned

750
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: it out, why not plan it to be a little

751
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: bit more natural, seeming have a flirty conversation, show a

752
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: little interest, but also give just Senia a good part

753
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: of your attention that night, and then you know that

754
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: they're going to put a laya back into Paradise and

755
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: you can say yes to a date without it being

756
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: so obvious that there was something prior. Yeah, you're so right.

757
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that, but there was no like,

758
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: here's why I like her. They went straight like tongue

759
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: and throat connected. That was it wild. Yeah, yeah, you're

760
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: so right. Two little things left to touch on, because

761
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: we did sort of already talk about the showdown between

762
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: the Mob and Chris and I'm scaring them out of Paradise.

763
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Aaron and Chelsea go on a date. So now Aaron

764
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: was she was she was kind of talking to Becca

765
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: but not so much. And now Becca goes on a

766
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: date with Thomas and they hit it off. So there's

767
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: not really any messing of the triangles there except for

768
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: the fact that Tammy and Thomas are now looking like

769
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: they're over right. Yeah, completely exactly. But I will say

770
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: I think, um, it was a bold move. That's a

771
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: bold move by Chelsea to be like, who are you

772
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: seeing the former bachelorette. I'm going to take you on

773
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: a date, like I guess, I know you know, good

774
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: for you, But that like that takes that takes some

775
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: some guts because um, there were then their date really

776
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: wasn't that like there's not much to talk about really

777
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: with it? I would say, no, their date wasn't much

778
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: to talk about. They definitely like each other more than

779
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: Aaron and Becca like each other. I didn't think that

780
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: Aaron and Becca were ever going to be a thing.

781
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: It just didn't make sense. It's interesting. It will be

782
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: interesting to see what becomes of Becca and Thomas though,

783
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: because I still don't feel like there's a lot of

784
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: time yes to really get serious. That was like a

785
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: golden date move. Whoever whoever drew that card up, because

786
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean there was what I just mean like, it

787
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: did look like Becca may not be around based on

788
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: how Yeah, and she needed that door to open. She

789
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: definitely did, and like Thomas. I think was so he

790
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: had been hated on so much, he was not gonna,

791
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, like I think he had to put his

792
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: tail between his legs and was like, gonna stay with

793
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: Tammy and then they just wouldn't be together. But I

794
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: think he was like, he was like, I'm going to

795
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: enjoy the screen time, but not tippany apple carts. But

796
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: he couldn't say no to that. No, not at all.

797
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: And I don't even think he looks bad going on

798
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: the date with Becca because he and Tammy just seemed

799
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: like people who were like making out and having fun.

800
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: We were never like going to consider them a strong couple. Uh.

801
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: Interesting that we're not seeing a lot of Tia, which

802
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: kind of disappoints me. I think he is very interesting.

803
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: And she always like she gets fun after like two

804
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: drinks and says some She and Raven both they we

805
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: know they're friends. After two drinks, they've got like some

806
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: southern saying that nobody's ever heard before. And I do want, like,

807
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: amidst all this drama, it is nice to have some lightheartedness,

808
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: and I do hope I hope that comes back. I

809
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: hope we've got some lightheartedness in the future. Yeah, and

810
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: then kay, so let's talk about how Chris and la

811
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: are basically kicked out of Paradise. They intimidate them enough

812
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, we we know that you,

813
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: we know that you came here together, we know what

814
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: bunk you're sleeping. Yeah, so get out of here out

815
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. And you know, this

816
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: was the grand plan because just and he was like,

817
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: can we vote them off the island? You know, I

818
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is gonna be the

819
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: first time we're like the cast creaks somebody out in

820
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: order to have them leave. And I wonder if this

821
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: is wells kept teasing, like there was something that we're

822
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: never gonna that we have never seen before in Paradise

823
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: that we were going to see this season, like getting

824
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: forced out. Yeah, Like is that maybe it is? This

825
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: is like, I mean, look, actually this just came to me.

826
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: Joe has been looking like he's on Survivor the whole time.

827
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: He might have been watching too much and he's going

828
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: to merge the two shows. I guess for us, I

829
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, look, I don't see how people

830
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: layoff of Brendan like after this, especially with some of

831
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: the things he specifically has said, like Piper, Piper is

832
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: not out of it, but like he has said some

833
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: some he has he has gone down that hole of

834
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: blaming other people. We're going to talk about that and

835
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: some statistics that prove it right after this break. Okay,

836
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: so we are talking about how Brendan is just never

837
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: going to seemingly recover from this because he just said

838
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: too many outrageous things on Monday night's episode. And I'm

839
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: going to pull up my Bachelor data profile. Here is Instagram.

840
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: We had this girl who runs the Instagram Bachelor data

841
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: on the podcast I think back in May, and the

842
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: stats from today are absolutelyable. Well it's actually quite believable,

843
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: but it's believable and I'm louvable at the same time. Really, yeah,

844
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: perfect karma for people who clearly we're trying to get

845
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: more followers. I know, like, it's crazy how many people

846
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: got on their phones last night and I was like, Okay,

847
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: I am going to unfollowed these people who just came

848
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: here for followers. Thirty seven thousands so far have unfollowed Brendan.

849
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Speaker 1: He's now below the amount of followers that he even

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Speaker 1: entered Paradise with. Um. Yes, he has now downgraded himself

851
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: to like post bachelor ate numbers. Then we have Piper,

852
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: who doesn't seem as affected. She looks like she's dropped.

853
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: She dropped four thousand overnight, so it's not sizable, but

854
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: like compared to her following, it's sizeable because she has

855
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Speaker 1: less than a hundred thousand to begin with. Um Brendan

856
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: had about three hundred and thirty something thousand followers to

857
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: begin with, all right, but the biggest jump of the

858
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: night was Natasha, who gained in the past less than

859
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours a hundred and four thousand followers. And

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00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: it's funny because I started following Natasha last night and

861
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: I went to go unfollowed Brendan, and I realized I

862
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: was never following Brendan. Oh, there you go. As it

863
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: should be, though, because you should not if if this

864
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: is your goal, come on, you know, like the number

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Speaker 1: one sin. It's just like perfect, you know, circling back

866
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: like the number one sin on the show is just

867
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: lying when clearly everyone knows you're lying. You know, I

868
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 1: guess so hard to cover this up. Everybody had already

869
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: seen some of these articles and things. This was not

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Speaker 1: something that they were going to skillfully be able to

871
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: sweep under the covers, you know. And and Brendan really

872
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: set himself up for some uh you know, well do

873
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: response by just saying all the things he said to Natasha.

874
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Speaker 1: I know you guys already covered this, but like, as

875
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: as as it should be good work Bachelor Nation, he

876
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: does poke poke funded himself. On his most recent Instagram,

877
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: which was a teaser for last night's episode, it says

878
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: here for the wrong reasons, at least he's able to

879
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: sort of laugh at himself. I don't know if I

880
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: call it that. I don't know, Okay, okay, Well, so

881
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: I think the big question here is why we're Chris

882
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: and Aalia kicked out, peer pressured out, and as Natasha

883
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: brings up at the end of the episode, nobody's trying

884
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: to kick out Piper and Brendan. Is it because Brendan

885
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: was like their boy and he was around since the

886
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: very beginning? They created too much of a relationship to

887
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: be that mad. I mean a lot of hypocrisy there.

888
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: She's She's definitely right, yeah, And I hope we see

889
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: something And I think even more so I do too,

890
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: because I think even more so with the secret miked

891
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: up conversation that we saw. That was that they didn't

892
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: that they didn't realize like the other people didn't know

893
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: that they had that conversation. And now that we know it,

894
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: that's true because if you followed everybody on Twitter yesterday,

895
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: there was people like Tammy and Demi. Everybody was like

896
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: freaking out saying John on the ground because they had

897
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: never seen that Mike depth conversation. So they probably didn't

898
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: think it was as bad as we the audience thought

899
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: finding out about their little scheme, because because as the audience,

900
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: we think that their scheme is worse than the Chris

901
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: and l A totally yeah, because they're just really bad,

902
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: easy actors. But like the other thing there is the

903
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: receipts nobody had to go looking for. They drop. They

904
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: dropped him right in front of the cameras for us,

905
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: so crazy. All right, well we have some Bachelor headlines.

906
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: Our first one is I'm glad we're clearing this up

907
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: grocery store. Joe. Joe Moble clarifies whether or not he

908
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: and Kendall Long were engaged. So many cast members said, like,

909
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: oh his expience, you guys, they were never engaged. He

910
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: said this this week on social media. I was not engaged,

911
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: um and that. Yeah, I thought that was weird that

912
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: people thought that they keep going. Yeah, I mean I

913
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: could keep it in. Yeah they were, Yeah, they were together,

914
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: but for a long time. It was a serious enough

915
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: relationship where I think they could have gotten engaged, but

916
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: they were not. Oh, grocery store Joe also just like

917
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: some tweets calling out his ex Kendall long. This is interesting,

918
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: I know. I think that was Mafia store Joe. Mafia

919
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 1: Mafia Joe. Grocery store Joe was always just the front. Okay,

920
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: so here are the tweets that he liked. That hey

921
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: butt headline made me want to cut my eyeballs and

922
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: ears off. And again I'm team Thomas and team Joe

923
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: and Serena are a beautiful couple. Okay, so they're not

924
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: really harsh, but they're obvious points to the fact that

925
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: Kendall and Joe are not together. I think he should,

926
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: like he should have been annoyed that she showed up

927
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: and was like stirring the pot. I think kind of unnecessarily,

928
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, because like I can see as a viewer now,

929
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: the fact that we're not seeing her like try to

930
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: or like connect with anybody. It kind of makes it

931
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: almost more annoying, like that X who just decides to

932
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: force a conversation on you that doesn't necessarily like need

933
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: to be had. Um, I don't know, I could, I

934
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: could see being annoyed by that. So I see both

935
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: of like, I see frustrations on all their side. I

936
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: see like everything from the Joe and Kendall storyline from

937
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: multiple sides. I just feel very invested in there and

938
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: like there's too much emotion for me to even like really, yeah,

939
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying this to like blame Kendall

940
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, I'm just saying I get his

941
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: frustration with liking one tweet like that. Oh yeah, I

942
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: make that makes sense. That's fine. And nobody ever thinks

943
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: that they're going to like have people look at their

944
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: favorite even even though we should, we shouldn't think that

945
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: people are going to do that. That's like the next

946
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: after Bachelor data, that's going to be the next like

947
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: what tweets did Bachelor people Like I got scared to

948
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: like like anything for a while because I don't want

949
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: people over analyzing anything. Um. And our last Bachelor headline

950
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: is Kelly Flannagan shares a health update amidst lime disease battle.

951
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: She said, I wanted to pop in and thank every

952
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: single one of you that has been messaging me. I

953
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: know this is a very controversial thing, um, she said,

954
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: whether it's documentaries, books, you name it. I'm looking up

955
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: everything and trying to keep my life super super clean

956
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: in terms of food, makeup, skincare, detergent's toothpaste and getting

957
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: all the talkins out of my life. Um. She says

958
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: that she's feeling better and again, I just want to

959
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: thank every single one of you who has messaged me

960
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: because this is a very very strange road to go

961
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: down and there's not much research on it. I hope

962
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: that you find something that helps friend. You know, it

963
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: sucks that we don't have a kid. Yeah, I have

964
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: one friend that's been down that road and it is

965
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: not like that is a very tough thing to go

966
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: through because there's just not many answers. Yeah, I feel

967
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: for her. No, And it can like it has such

968
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: a huge range of symptoms because you know Ryan Sutter

969
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: has it too, and he was just like it's like

970
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: for him, it just felt ability. It can can cause

971
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: a lot of differs. I know all right. Well, guys,

972
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: Derek has been a fantastic co host for me. We'd

973
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: love to have you any time that Ben has to

974
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: step out, because you have such great insight into the

975
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: show and you are so honest and of course always

976
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: appreciate the unfiltered. Oh, I'm always sticking my foot in

977
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: my mouth and some future time, well, that's what makes

978
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: you interesting. And if we don't mess up, you know,

979
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: if we don't say stupid things sometimes, then we're probably

980
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: just boring. Amen to that. Yeah, alright, well, guys, thank

981
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. Until next time. I've

982
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: been Ashley it right, he did good job. Follow the

983
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.